Episode 88: Definition of Hip-Hop VS Rap

Episode 88 is packed with energy, debate, and real conversation as the crew welcomes special guest and longtime friend Bougie to the pod. Things kick off immediately Bougie—rocking an OutKast shirt—calls out Travey2x and South Cac Chuck over their Migos vs. OutKast debate, boldly that André 3000 delivered one of the greatest verses of all time. Chuck isn’t letting that slide, and just like that, the debate is on.

In the “What’s Poppin” segment, the crew reacts to Ice Spice being attacked at McDonald’s, leading to a real discussion about celebrity safety and the importance of having protection or at least a solid circle nearby. They also dive into the tension between DJ Vlad and Boosie Badazz, questioning whether the two can ever work together again.

Things heat up even more when they break down a clip from Joe Budden’s podcast debating who’s the better rapper: 2 Chainz or Big Sean. That conversation spirals into the episode’s main topic—what really defines hip-hop versus rap? The crew goes deep, ultimately agreeing that hip-hop has evolved so much that everyone now carries their own definition.

The vibe shifts in the fan-favorite Confessions segment, where personal secrets come to light, followed by Hard Pass / Hard to Pass Up, where Bougie and South Cac Chuck blind-rank celebrities based on attractiveness. That debate takes a wild turn when comparing Melyssa Ford and Teyana Taylor—and yes, it gets heated.

They wrap things up with announcements and their signature hip-hop and R&B questions of the day.

Tap in—this episode is full of laughs, strong opinions, and real hip-hop talk. 

00:00 Intro
00:19 South Cac Chuck Fun Fact
04:03 Travey2x Fun Fact
05:39 Bougie Fun Fact/ call us out about OutKast vs Migos 
06:54 Is Andre 3000 a top 5 rapper 
08:34 Andre 3000 vs Lil Wayne debate 
20:33 WHATS POPPIN 
20:47 Ice spice got into a fight 
27:57 Boosie vs Vladtv 
30:36 who from our city would be controversial interview 
33:30 joe budden podcast debate Big Sean vs 2 chainz 
42:04 What exactly is a rapper?
44:41 defining Hip-Hop vs Rap
50:44 CONFESSIONS 
51:01 Travey2x Confession 
55:54 South Cac Chuck Confession 
59:01 Bougie Confession 
1:03:17 HARD PASS/HARD TO PASS UP
1:04:11 Blind Rank These Celebrities 
1:07:21 debating the rank we would put em 1:15:13 ANNOUNCEMENTS 
1:19:16 R&B and HipHop Questions 
1:26:00 Outro