Feeling the sting of the Eagles' loss to the 49ers? You're not alone. We, too, found ourselves grappling with the outcome of a game that pitted a formidable Eagles against a resurgent 49ers. But, there's more to this gridiron tale than the final score. Tune in as we dissect the game, commending the Eagles for their face-off against a challenging schedule and acknowledging the might of a healthy 49ers line-up.
Ever find that a controversial call during a game sways your opinion about the final result? We explore this very sentiment as we dive into the contentious moments between the Baltimore Ravens and the Kansas City Chiefs. The media and fans had plenty of excuses for the Ravens' loss, but we focus on the team's accountability for their performance. Also, we dissect the Chiefs' play calling, questioning if it played a part in their downfall, while celebrating the Green Bay Packers' defense, proving that youth shouldn't be underestimated.
No game, however, can ever be independent of those that officiate it. The role of referees in sports is a complex one, and we take a closer look at how their decisions can swing the fate of a match. Yet, we find ourselves nodding in agreement that while their decisions matter, a team's true strength lies in their ability to overrule their impact through sheer domination. As we wrap up, we delve into the significant role of coaching decisions in the NFL and how they can mold a team's performance on the field. Whether you're an NFL aficionado or a casual follower, we assure you that our insights will keep you hooked.
Feeling the sting of the Eagles' loss to the 49ers? You're not alone. We, too, found ourselves grappling with the outcome of a game that pitted a formidable Eagles against a resurgent 49ers. But, there's more to this gridiron tale than the final score. Tune in as we dissect the game, commending the Eagles for their face-off against a challenging schedule and acknowledging the might of a healthy 49ers line-up.
Ever find that a controversial call during a game sways your opinion about the final result? We explore this very sentiment as we dive into the contentious moments between the Baltimore Ravens and the Kansas City Chiefs. The media and fans had plenty of excuses for the Ravens' loss, but we focus on the team's accountability for their performance. Also, we dissect the Chiefs' play calling, questioning if it played a part in their downfall, while celebrating the Green Bay Packers' defense, proving that youth shouldn't be underestimated.
No game, however, can ever be independent of those that officiate it. The role of referees in sports is a complex one, and we take a closer look at how their decisions can swing the fate of a match. Yet, we find ourselves nodding in agreement that while their decisions matter, a team's true strength lies in their ability to overrule their impact through sheer domination. As we wrap up, we delve into the significant role of coaching decisions in the NFL and how they can mold a team's performance on the field. Whether you're an NFL aficionado or a casual follower, we assure you that our insights will keep you hooked.
Oh, it is Tuesday. We are here. Hey, listen, it was a rough, sweet and football. Rough, rough, this rough week, rough, weak and football. And when I tell you rough week, I mean I'm not just talking about some of the games that we saw, but I'm talking about the refs also, because I'm telling you they can always just not let you down. The rest just can't let you down, they can't let you down. But you know I'm gonna get to all more than that. But, like I said, rough week and football. You know, at least the whole team wasn't playing this week, because I'll probably be on his side also too.
Damond :But let me give a shout out to the sponsors at the bottom of the screen. To you, productions team proceeded, wins, electrical remodeling, dna window tint, and thank you so much for giving me the sponsors and sticking with me. And you know, like I said, it's just a rough week. And football a rough week and football. Hey, hey there, hey there, hey there. Yes, what about the Ravens? Yes, we're starting off, but I got to bring my boy in here. You know, I think we have to deliver a eulogy. I had a pregnant guy, a great DJ, in it, you know, because, like I said, it's been a rough, rough week and football, and you know. The only thing I can say about this is hey, we didn't win or lose, we were off, happy about that. We might have been on the upset count too, or something.
TJ:Um, I guess it's it's. It's only fitting that I start to show off, right, shall we? Um, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I represent for all of Eagles fans across the world as we have a moment of silence for the bludgeoning that transpired on this past Sunday afternoon between the Eagles and the 49ers at the link 42 to uh, it doesn't matter how many points that we had, because it was non-existent. Um, so I'm going to just take this moment right now, before I go any further and practically lose my voice, for a moment of silence for our lovely Philadelphia Eagles.
Damond :Get some music. Wait a minute, I'll get you some music. All right, that's about all I got. Thank you, we're going to get that out of the way.
TJ:Be nasty, welcome, and I want to purposely uh give a special um eulogy to the uh, the second and third levels of the Eagles defense, because without them the bludgeoning wouldn't have been possible. So I don't know if, if I'm a 49ers fan and I say thank you, or if I'm an Eagles fan and uh say, say a phrase that's not allowed on national airwaves right now. So, um, it was bad, it was real bad, and uh, you know what? You got to call it a spade of spade. 49ers were a better team. They dominated us in the trenches. Uh, perty played spectaclar. I don't think he's played a better game than this all year long 354 yards. He only had, like what? Four incompletions. It was insane. Um, debo Samuel backed it up. He was talking all week long he's been talking since last season about what would have happened if Perty had played this game, uh against us. And uh, we saw what happened when uh that comes to the fold. He was unstoppable. Uh, quite figuratively and literally.
TJ:Um, you know, we lost to the better team on Sunday and there's no if and to. What's about it? Uh, and of course it's easy to get caught on how we lost, because of course, I don't think uh, philly has has had a loss like this since, uh, what? Two years ago against Tampa Bay in the playoffs, when, when the the Buccaneers dared Jaylen Hurst to throw the ball and they could and he couldn't, for whatever reason, um, we haven't experienced a loss like that, Um, so it's a very humbling experience for us. However, with that being said, I also want to give a special shout out and, yes, I'm going to take the lovely glasses off, because I think the uh funeral was over Um. I want to give a special shout out to Philly also, because to have three games in 13 days I don't care who you are, I don't care what you think you are that is a hard slate to come by. And if you had told us that, out of these, out of this gauntlet of teams and no, the gauntlet is not over, because we got Dallas coming up If you were to tell us that we come out of out of this uh gauntlet three and one, I usually would have signed up for that. I usually would have signed up for that. Now, of course, the one loss. It would have been nice for it to be somewhat competitive. It would have been nice, um. But with that being said, uh, the 49ers shows that when they are healthy that they are, they are one of the best teams in the NFL.
TJ:Um, now, of course, one may argue hey, uh, well, you're not going to say the best. Well, I'm not saying the best yet, because there are some teams that would love to sit up there and say that that does not, uh, apply to y'all. So, um, yeah, it's. It's been a very difficult couple of days, you know. Uh, it's been hard getting a lot of sleep, uh, a lot of sleepless nights, and, um, I'm going to do my best to carry on this show as much as I possibly can. But, uh, boy, oh boy, sunday was rough, yesterday was rough, and now to deal with nothing but dejectors for the next couple hours or so is going to be even more rough. So I felt the need to get that off my chest now Say that way, I am prepared. I am fully prepared for all the smoke, because I know it is heading my direction right about.
Damond :Listen, listen, listen. De de just put this good comment up over here and say we'll take the $49 for y'all because y'all took care of the cheese for us.
TJ:I'm waiting.
Damond :I'm waiting for Kelsey to come comment on that one.
TJ:Absolutely, absolutely.
Damond :Absolutely, and we're still in first place too.
TJ:There's nothing wrong. Nothing wrong with that. Let's go. Still got the best record.
Damond :But y'all, y'all, y'all just got to handle business. But remember, remember I said this last week. I said I'm a little concerned about the defense. I said because we're Buffalo putting up over 500 yards last week in that game. I said so, remember, y'all played a long, long, long time. The boys were tired, they were tired and you just want to say they came and then they just was right for the pickings. They was right for the pickings, but after that they went out and signed some linebackers and I said, oh, uh-huh, yeah, they're getting that defense together. I said yeah, because they don't want that to happen again, because, remember, we all going against Dallas and y'all playing them in Dallas. So you know they, you know they already ready or whatever. Like I said, I was concerned.
Damond :But when I started watching that game I said oh, I was like okay, defense starting to look good first. Then, when 49ers just started walking up and down the fast, oh no, this game over, this game over, this game is over. I was like, wow, I really wanted that to be Sunday night football or Monday night football. I really did, because I felt as though. I said that'd been a better match. But then again it was already America's game of the week, so I guess we just need to leave it there, right, right, right, right, yeah. So we definitely didn't even there. So I was last like, hey, listen, listen, if we just go ahead and just have a great game, that's all I wanted was a great game. I was expecting to show lacking, okay.
TJ:Yeah.
Damond :Yeah, I was not expecting that at all. I was like, oh, and then what? Jalen went out for a couple of snaps because he ran back and I'm like, okay, is he hurt? Is he not hurt? What is going on? So I don't know. It wasn't the knee, Was it the? Was it what? I think?
TJ:he got concussed. He got concussed, which is why it was it was shocking that you, they allowed him back. Well, first of all, that he was able to be out there, number one, because the protocol these days, if you, if you, if you're found out to be concussed, you're at least out for two or three series, let alone snaps. He came right back in. He came right back in the game. The game was over. What, nick, what are we doing? And look, I get it.
TJ:Jalen hurts is the type of guy, hey, I'm going to play through injury. I'm one of the toughest quarterbacks in the league. But sometimes, sometimes, you need to know when to say when. And when. I saw that it was 3513, that is when you should have said when, let's get ready for Dallas, let's keep moving, put the bench in, let's, let's just, hey, take it out the scrapbook, throw in the trash. But no, but no, you had to put down back in. And of course, I guess it's supposed to be some type of momentum builder for Dallas that he scored a touchdown on following drive, congratulations, that is absolutely nothing for anybody. But right, he was concussed, he had no business being back in the game and he put him back in there Like nothing happened. So it was. It was one of those things was just like okay, all right, nick, what are we doing here, jalen, what are we doing here? The game's over, let's go, let's get out of here.
Damond :Anybody out there in the stratosphere, especially YouTube world. If you're listening, your egos fan, say something in the comments, because again, I heard y'all wanted to come and talk to me. So come talk to us, because this is why I'm here. Come talk to me. I told you I would be here at six o'clock. I'm ready. We game time. It's live. We're not making these excuses.
Damond :If our team lost, we lost. Guess what. I put it out every week. Look, I'm a big man. The Ravens lose, we lose. If we win, we win. Okay, if we have deficiencies, I talk about it. I said, hey, no, I didn't like this.
Damond :You know everybody's talking about oh, we got some question marks here, we got question marks there. I hear all these people saying this let them boys play first before we say anything about some question mark, and that's all it is. Our team's going out there and we just repping the question marks come after the game is over. Okay, we could have improved here. We could did better here. Everybody's talking about oh, our offensive line. This, you know, lamar's not this Lamar. Why does everybody want to blame Lamar when there's something else? That's the problem. Yeah, that's the only thing I say. Right, okay, kelsey, we're going to get to this. We go get to this, kelsey. We go get to this. We go finish up the game of the weekend. But we go get to that because, yeah, you were all cheated, absolutely, and you were robbed of two calls. But remember, I always preach on this show, always preach. If you turn a fur off these people, you ain't got to worry about the rest.
TJ:You got to worry about it. You know what? Let's just get to it, because the fact that I'm getting no seriously, because I'm getting nothing but cheese fans over the past 48 hours texting me, hitting me up, saying about how much the game swayed away from their direction and no one is denying that. But, ladies and gentlemen, I got some breaking news for you and I know this is not going to sound pretty. It's not going to get all the headlines.
TJ:Andy Reed did not call a great game on Sunday night. That play calling was not great. The idea of we're going to sit here and say we're going to throw a screen past the sky more that everybody in the grandmother knows is not going nowhere. Or we're going to throw an underneath route to Justin Watson and hope him praise that he gets five yards. It's not going to work. Now I'm a firm believer that Dale figured out a way to get it together, but that play calling on Sunday night did not help at all and it had absolutely nothing to do with the players. But Checo played his heart out until he got out of the game. Mahomes did the best he could. Kelsey was triple covered, as always, as he's supposed to.
TJ:Okay, the play calling did not help in their direction. You could have easily against that Packers defense. You could have easily sat up there and said, hey look, we need to put in some play action. We need to make sure that we get Kelsey to disguise that side of the defense. We need to sit up there and have Rashi Rice he's been lighting it up the past couple of weeks Sit up there and have him go on a medium route from a home to find he's one of the best space finders in the entire league. Put the receivers in space. And you couldn't do that. And then, of course, you had the Packers defense flying all over the field. Boy oh boy, where they playing well.
Damond :You know something? I was completely, completely shocked. I'm like wait a minute, they did this to Detroit and it came here, and they did to the Chiefs too. Yeah, I just was trying to figure out what was going on. I was like wait a minute, wait, what Wait?
Remy :what.
Damond :Y'all did this to Detroit. Now you're doing this to the Chiefs, walking up and down the field just walking. But they have the youngest team and the NFL A bunch of babies. They said the average age on that team is 25.6 years old.
Remy :A bunch of babies A bunch of babies.
Damond :A bunch of babies Walked up and down the field on two great teams, two great teams. And, yes, where to go? Where to go? Here it is Mahomes is human. Yes, he is human, he is human, he is human, he is human.
TJ:I mean, they can't do it Again. I've been saying that the past month or so with y'all. Don't have Tyree Kale anymore. As soon as you understand that shot on Fadgett. This is a great statement.
Damond :Without EB and Tyree Kale they look normal, Absolutely.
TJ:Okay, y'all don't have that home run here. Y'all just don't. Do you know what? I thought y'all was going to find it in Cadarius, tony, until I realized that he couldn't catch. Do you know what? I thought y'all could find that in Scott Moore, until you realize that he couldn't get separation. Okay, you thought you was going to find that in MBS, until you realize that he can't get separation or catch half the time.
TJ:So you need to scheme up a better offensive game plan to either A have Kelsey be unguardable, like we just saw literally a month ago, or you need to have someone else become a star, where C Rice needs to get 150 yards, maybe Pacheco gets 100 yards rushing Like. You need to come up with something else, because the idea of hey, you know what, it's okay, it's okay that we're down 14 because we got Tyree Kale, we're just going to throw a bomb, it's going to change momentum, we score, okay, that's it. Fall game. You don't have that anymore, right? So I want you to understand that, in order for y'all to understand that this is not just a playoff conversation. This is your winning games conversation. Now. This isn't about oh, we'll wait and see when we get to playoffs, because we'll be finding playoffs. Oh no, if y'all don't nip this in a bud during the regular season, y'all think that y'all losing. Now Y'all going to find yourselves getting close to being in that wild car position. I know that sounds wild to say, right that?
Damond :they can't see, chiefs will be in a wild car position.
TJ:I know that sounds wild to say, but that is a possibility right now, because until y'all figure out that this needs to stop in order for y'all to win games, let alone get into the playoffs and figure out what happens in the playoffs, this will be a continuous trend. And oh, by the way, the great defense, which, by the way, played well, let's not act like the Chiefs defense didn't play well. They played well, but it went up against Farve Rogers, jordan Love I hope and pray that we do not have to go through this again, 15 years straight, of a Green Bay quarterback torching everybody's secondary and everybody's defense is apart for a living just because, just because he feels like it. I saw Jordan Love make some passes on Sunday night that literally only. I've only seen a couple of quarterbacks.
Damond :That sounded like Farve and Rogers. Yes, I went out when he threw that pass with triple coverage and I say he caught that.
TJ:Like what? Seriously and I mean he's an erratic thrower, I get it. He has a lot to work on. Please don't get me wrong. I'm not equating the two. But when you watch him play especially over the last three weeks, because this was just a Sunday night thing- he plays exactly like Aaron Rogers Exactly it's scary.
Damond :Exactly like Aaron Rogers If you look at his style. They even had. They even went back and showed the throwing stands. They went back to Farve, it's the same. They went back to Rogers and then it was him, with them jumping up a little bit the way they stand, and was passing the ball. I was like that's crazy, that's crazy.
TJ:Man and look.
Damond :Yep Absolutely. It looked like Farve and Rogers Yep Absolutely.
TJ:And, you know, the best thing that's happening in Jordan Love's favor that I wish more people would talk about is, like you said earlier, they're playing. They're all practically first, second, third year players. At the most, your third year players on that team are considered vets. That's how young this team is, so they're all growing and learning together. They're all building and learning together. So the idea of having expectation for Jordan Love or for these receivers or for AJ Dylan in that running game is not much.
Damond :Do you know who's Green Bay's looking like in the NFC, who they're? Houston, texas, that's what they're looking like Because now they're starting to come along, they starting to get some chemistry, if you look at it. Because, again, who would have ever thought they'd beat Detroit on Thanksgiving? I didn't think that. I didn't think that at all. Me either. I didn't think that at all. I didn't think they would beat Kansas City, even though they were in Lambow. I guess I was wrong on that one too. I was wrong on that one too.
TJ:I have to really think about that Okay.
Damond :Look at the chemistry they're doing, because it's not like they're getting blown out. They keep these games close. Oh yeah, now the play calling has gotten better and better, and better and better and it's just like wow. I'm like wow Because, again, who walks up and down the field on those two teams? Seriously, no one, not many.
Damond :No one walks up and down. It's very few that does it, but they walking up and down the field on people Like, oh, you scored touchdown, we're going to respond. Oh, you scored the what? Oh, we're going to respond. Yeah. But again, that's what those young kids up there, like Kelsey, said in that comment they're running circles around the vets. Yeah, they're running circles around them. And I mean, like I said I'm, when it came down to the two calls, that was missed. Okay, we can all, all of America, absolutely.
Remy :All those missed calls, absolutely.
Damond :All of America. He was over the guys back. But remember, like I said, if you tear the fur off these people right, you get your play call right and tear the fur off them. We ain't got to worry about the rest. We ain't got to worry about the rest. Yeah, we can even go. We can even go to some of these Super Bowls. When does the refs get involved? And the last guy then going? Two minutes of the Super Bowl in the fourth quarter, last two minutes. Oh, let me throw a flag.
TJ:I get that, I get that, but but, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, can I remind y'all something? Can I ask y'all this question, and please answer it as humbly as y'all know how when is the last season you've seen the refs do a great job all season long Roughing? When's the last season you've seen that they were horrible last?
Damond :year.
TJ:They were horrible last year. We were having conversations about them the year before, the year before that, and they'll give me started on 2012. Like, come on, stop it. The refs are always going to find themselves making some wonky, just just terrible call, and that's going to happen.
Damond :Or terrible, or terrible no, call, or terrible no call.
TJ:But that's what I'm saying, that is a part of the game, and as soon as us, as fans, understand that that is just the way it's going to be sometimes and our teams have to be so dominant to where that doesn't matter, then the sooner we'll realize that, hey, you know what we just lost, okay.
Damond :So it's like hey Remy's here, he's 49ers fan, he got this one for you.
TJ:Okay, all right, remy, it's all good. It's all good, it's all good, I'll take it. I'll take it. It's cool. It's cool.
TJ:But I'm saying the idea of having to constantly want to be quick, to put the onus on the refs, when we know that we shouldn't put high expectations on the refs, knowing that they don't have a great track record anyways. So how about us, as a team, blow out our opponent to such a degree to where nothing matters? How about that? How about that? Because the refs going to make these calls, no calls, until the end of time. I can't remember the last time and I've only been on this earth for 22 years. I can't remember one time that we sat up there and said at the end of the season wow, you know, the refs did a really good job, they did a very good job.
TJ:No, you're never going to hear that. It never happens. Get over it. Okay, you can make an argument in our game about all. You know. There was a misholding call here or there was a mispassing interference there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how that didn't matter, because if the 49ers just kept putting points on the board, it didn't matter what the rest were doing it, sure did it, sure did. So what are we doing on this? For why are we putting okay, let me just make it this simple why are we putting such a high expectation on those that don't usually put on a high quality performance anyway? Why?
Damond :I get it, I get it. And it does AD. It does mess with you because, like I said, when you see some of these blatant calls, you're like you didn't see that I mean AP for the International Space Station, because I saw that and you didn't see that. You standing right there. Yeah, it messes with you, I get it, I get it. You still mad about the Colts game? Yeah, there's no cause in that game, but that's what I'm saying.
TJ:The Colts game was what? Week four, week five, week 13?, week 14? Now, like that's going to happen. So your responsibility as a team needs to be so crisp and so effective on both sides of the football to where they don't have to get in the way it doesn't get in the way You're not having a close game to where, oh, the game really does determine on how the refs see this call or how they don't see this call. No, if we're up by a few scores, it doesn't matter what the rest do. The rest are sitting up there with the Colts on the sidelines anyway, because what they're doing is waiting for the game to be over.
Damond :Okay, so if the game hey, what are you eating at, hey, what are you going at for dinner?
TJ:Okay, so if you don't make the game close, if you don't make the game close, you don't have to worry about them getting in the way.
Damond :That's what I said. If we go out there, you tear the fur off of them. Tear the fur, and I preached it. Tear the fur off them. We ain't got to worry about the rest. The refs can't get involved. Okay, then we throw a bogus penalty here and there, but we got to get this game a little bit more closer. Yeah, yeah.
TJ:No, and I get that. And here's the part where we have to have that fine line, because as much as I would say, hey, handle your business ahead of time, so that way y'all don't get, they don't get in the way. I can also make the same thing, because two things can be right at the same time. I can also say that in those crucial moments y'all do need to get it right as officials. If it's a blatant horse, call and tackle, if it's a blatant passing interference, if there are blatant holding, if there's a blatant false start, if it's crucial, if it's in those crucial moments, you need to make the right decision. That I understand.
Damond :No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's talk about the false start here, because remember last week everybody was false starting and the rest wasn't even calling that Okay.
TJ:I'm just saying so, okay, so that's what I'm saying. So you have to understand that there is that fine line, but you ignore that line. If you're straight up beating them, you're straight up dominating them, it doesn't matter yeah.
Damond :I get that. It doesn't matter. I get that, like I said, if you turn the fr okay point case, when Detroit came here and Baltimore was beating up breaks off of them, the rest didn't matter. The rest did not matter at all. But I agree with this for Remy. So when politics are evolving at a higher level, we have no control over it. Yeah, we all know this is Vegas.
TJ:We all know this is Vegas, vegas is involved, but okay, but that goes back to what I was saying earlier. We've been talking about the rest doing this stuff since the beginning of football.
TJ:In the entire right, it's been happening since the beginning of football. So now, because we're incorporating sports betting, now all of a sudden that's becoming a major factor in these games. No, not necessarily. The rest have been doing this stuff since the beginning of the season, since the preseason in the year before that, in the year before that and, like I said, please don't get me started on 2012. Please don't get me started on 2012. If you know, you know. Okay.
Damond :I will say this, I'll say this, I'll say this it's a lot more prevalent and noticeable. Okay, we may have not really noticed, but the uptick in it is noticeable, the uptick, there's a major uptick with it. There's a major uptick In penalties, in penalties. Yes, no, okay, yeah, oh yeah, there's a major, major uptick, major uptick, major uptick, I believe, major uptick, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe. So I'm like, like I said, these, these, these reps, it's getting horrible, it's getting horrible.
TJ:It is man and, like I said, there is that fine line. If we get to, if we're at a pivotal fourth down play, the game's on the line, okay, I don't care how many commercial breaks we need, I don't care how many times you need to review this play. Make sure that you get it right, that I get the, the, the, the, the non-call with the uh, passing the interference. On Sunday night you need to take as much time as you need before you sit up there and say that there was no passing the interference. Now, moments like that absolutely take all the time you need. But then there's certain times during the games where I'm like why did you call that? There's nothing there. What are you doing? Then there's times where it's like okay, how did you not see that? What is going on here? Called a flag, and then they'd be in the midst of of, of congregating amongst each other for like five minutes, 10 minutes straight, and we're like, okay, it's blatant, that is a passing interference, called a passing interference. Why have you called passing interference yet?
Damond :Yep, absolutely All right, let me. Let me bring Remy in here. What's up, sir?
Remy :Hey, can y'all, can y'all hear me?
Damond :Oh yeah, we can hear you fine.
Remy :We can hear you fine, how y'all doing, how y'all doing About time. It's been a long time since you've been on here. Yeah, I thought I thought I blessed the, blessed the stage, but I just, I just I had to come on from a man right here. I'm not even going to do that right now, but what I want to tell you on something you said about well, because of sports, because now involved, that's been involved since the hands of time. So you know these things. We don't the behind the door, the scenes.
Remy :Vegas is set to win, not to lose. You know what I'm saying. It is a site because I'll be on all the time that they can always see where the bulk of the money at, where the line is All it takes for a call. You know what I mean the favors, and now the past couple of years, the coaches and stuff is getting fired, starting to speak out on how the cheating is involved and so forth and so on. And I got some stuff that I send. I send Damian to send to you with Gilbert Arenas got some reps on his pocket and he talking about it. You know what I'm saying.
TJ:Absolutely, I've seen them.
Remy :You know, so, like, so, like you say you got to ask people out there and be everybody the reps, the teams, the coaches, you got to blow them out. Yeah, so, so, okay, you don't say I want to affect you.
TJ:Yes, absolutely, and that that's why I brought up the Niners game. You start up there and you can easily say, oh, there was a call here or miss called there, but no, you wonder why nobody's talking about that? Because the 49ers beat the boat race or beat the feathers, whatever you want to call. What happened in Philly on Sunday beat the furrow of them. So nobody's going to sit there and have that conversation. You wonder why? Because at the end of the day, you're going to look at that score. You're going to say, okay, 42, 19,. Uh, yeah, the rest weren't a factor. So at what point do you sit up there and say, okay, look, this is coaching, this is players executing. That. That becomes a much bigger emphasis than having to sit up there and say, oh, the rest need to sit up there, and then you do this, then you do that. The first one is the beginning of time. Get over it.
Remy :I mean, it's been done even in Super Bowls. You know, I can even go back, you know what I'm saying. And when we played, who the hell? We look? Kansas City. You know there was a lot of calls that wasn't called, but that was Andy Reed first Super Bowl, right? Yeah, yeah, I believe so. A lot was involved, you know, and that wasn't when he ran the ball and it wasn't in the touchdown. There's a lot of things that you don't say, but you know it's not even hitting on everybody. It just goes to show that it's hard to pick them when you're betting. But you know what I mean. A lot of us, we like the game, yeah, but we don't know the aspect of what's really going on unless you beat somebody straight out.
Damond :Absolutely, you know you beat them, you beat them, you beat them. All right, second Super Bowl, so the second one? Yeah, so, like I said, if you beat the breaks off of them, beat the break, you ain't got to worry about nothing. You're like oh, this game over, just like, okay, we can go back to what Miami and when they went up to Denver, that was no question that Miami wasn't going to win that game. Yeah, I mean, they didn't put their practice squad in. The practice squad was going point it was no issue Even what happened in Washington.
Remy :this past weekend. Let's go back to that Cleveland game when 49ers played Cleveland A lot of them they kept giving passing the first and getting them down the field so they can do what? Win the game. Yeah, Win the game.
Damond :Because ain't no way the 49ers should have lost that game.
TJ:No, but again, but again. That game is a perfect example, because guess what? The game was too close. They're swinging their way. You set up there and you had regardless of who it is, whether it's Cleveland or the 49ers if you had 49ers up 21 to three, we're not having this conversation, but the game was so close all game long. You done put the game in the rest hands. Who's fault is that? Who's fault?
Damond :is that Absolutely? I like this comment the NFL is the same as the WWE and WCW.
TJ:Oh I like that comment. It's scripted ahead of time. Huh, it's scripted ahead of time. Oh, my goodness, I like that comment. We got you better than that. We got you better than that. It ain't that bad. But I will say this, and this is going to ruffle a lot of feathers, but I equate this to this whole backlash about Florida State not being in the closet football playoff. It does matter who is in the dance, it does matter who is in the playoffs because at the end of the day, regardless of whether people like it or not, the NFL is about their bottom line and they're going to want their best product on that field weekend and week out. If you're telling me that I'm going to have to sit there and watch the Steelers in the playoffs against you had to say the Steelers.
Damond :You had to say the City, you had to say the City.
TJ:Watch that hey don't take this game man, I'm not watching that.
TJ:So you got to think about it from that aspect too. Okay, what teams are going to bring on the most entertainment, the most product to show off this game? Because if you're going to sit there and tell me, oh, you know, on a super wild car weekend it's going to be Houston against Baltimore, you think I'm going to sit there and say that's going to be a close game. No, baltimore's going to cross them. But if we sit up there and we say, oh, it's Baltimore and Cleveland, it's like, okay, it may go Baltimore's way, but we got a. We got a, we got a physical matchup, we got a shoot. Hey, it always is ugly in divisional games, but let's find out, because that intrigue there. But to know that in certain matchups that we're going to shoot there and act like that's completely cheating, or or or having it being rigged or whatever, is something totally different.
TJ:There are certain teams that are just certainly better than you on a given Sunday. That's why the phrase of any given Sunday is not just a simple phrase. It's the reality of the NFL. Anybody could beat you. But then there's also certain, there's also certain times where if you're not the best team on the field, you don't deserve to win, you don't deserve to win or to get off round time.
Remy :Rating oh, don't get me wrong Rating. So that's, that's go to what you say. Rating oh oh oh my.
TJ:God, don't get me started.
Damond :What, what, what, what couple games shouldn't have never been on TV this season? What couple games? Because we talked about that too.
TJ:Okay, so it matters. It matters what you putting on on these prime time games, what you're putting on your, on your product for the world to see. Okay, I'm pretty sure everybody wanted to see a close game between Sam Frant and Philly. But if you're not the better team, if you decide not to show up as the opposition, it's going to be a blowout. It happens.
Damond :It happens.
TJ:Get over it. Figure out what it is that's going to separate you from the opposition, so that we either A you make it close for a team that's an underdog, or, b a team that's supposed to be tall, it's supposed to be a complete blowout and nobody talks about it.
TJ:And it goes back to coaching. It goes back to how great your team is. It goes back to how great your quarterback. The only reason why Florida State's not able to make the college football playoff right now is because they're down to their third string quarterback. Do you think I want to see a third string quarterback going for the national title? I don't care how much of a love story it is.
Remy :That's why I want me to cut you off. That's why the spread was like that this weekend. It was like a minus one. Had the first three quarterback in it, it would have been, they would have been minus 15. Come on, bro, come on, so.
TJ:So make it make sense. Do you want your best? Do you want your best out there? Do you want to sit up there and say, oh, because of this story right here, or because of this or because of that, we're going to put them in there and then, when they get slaughtered for the whole world to see, we're going to sit up there and say, oh, they should have been there in the first. What, what are we doing? What are we talking about right now? Put the best out there, be the best on that field, and it don't matter. It don't matter what happens, it don't matter what anybody got to say.
Remy :Well, I have a special request. Sure, can we get this podcast on December 26th? Oh boy, oh boy, can we do a special.
Damond :I may be. I may be coming back. I may be coming back because I'm trying to go to that game, but if I can do it, I will do it because that's the game I've been waiting for and I've circled that on my calendar. Yeah, yeah, see, I'm a board. Wait a minute, dante said.
TJ:Dante said Florida State should be in there, yeah, so.
Damond :But they know that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Remy :Yeah, but they not going to do it.
TJ:You don't say, a third string quarterback in a playoff game, all right.
Damond :Let's see you in here.
Remy :Welcome. Hey, how do y'all feel about Flacco? Huh, how do y'all feel about Flacco in the A-s Wait a minute who Flacco, who? Who? Yeah, how y'all feel about that.
TJ:Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Look, if we blink one more time, flacco done gave the ball to the other team.
Remy :Okay, let's not do that, let's not do that Until he played a Ravens. That's when he going to look good.
TJ:Oh, see, see, see, I'm not going to go there.
Remy :I'm not going to go there. I'm being honest. That's how I go.
TJ:I don't think that's happening, but the chance of it happening. History does say that it doesn't shock me. I will say that. Right, I will say that. However, to expect that out of Joe Flacco, please, please, I mean he made this thing a little bit more time.
Remy :He got in there fast. He did, but he threw over 20 yards the Ravens would take that really personally they were like no you're not going to beat us.
Damond :You're not going to beat us.
Remy :Are y'all still paying?
Damond :him who Are?
Remy :the Ravens still paying him.
Damond :I don't think they are no no, no, no that contract has been over.
Remy :That contract has been over.
TJ:That contract has been over it ain't no it ain't no, and recently it wasn't a long time ago and in last year it ain't in last year Because he was with the Jets last year, right yeah. And y'all were still paying him.
Remy :Y'all were still paying him.
TJ:Oh wow, yeah, y'all were still paying him In last year because it was a turnover from the Ravens contract to the Jets contract. What they were paying him and it carried over.
Damond :So they, they, they, they they wait a minute, say back in league, cause them babies kicking his butt. Yeah, I'll be there too. Pay that child for it. Yeah, okay, that child care I gotta get out the house.
TJ:Hey, hey, what, what? Oh, I'm glad you brought that up too, because this is another thing that I want to talk about and and, uh, everybody's you know, talking about these, these unfortunate injuries to these quarterbacks, and I get all that.
Damond :But AFC is getting towed up, and Herbert was the latest disaster of it last night. Oh, yeah, yeah, afc quarterbacks.
Remy :Absolutely, and I did like Cincinnati back, I did like I lived like him. Okay, so I'm about to be saying this.
Damond :He was wet. I shouldn't be saying this on this show, but I was root for Cincinnati last night.
TJ:I was root for Cincinnati last night. So so this is the. This is the point that I want to make, and I'm surprised nobody's brought this up All these different starting quarterbacks this season. You want to know what it shows me. You want to know what it's showing me, who's good at head coach and who's terribly bad at that. Because that's what it is, because last night was a perfect example. Zach Taylor, don't have Joe Burrow in that in that backfield you have him come in their office. Dick Brownie looked like the second coming of of what Drew Brees Only four in the play.
TJ:Are you kidding me? It's insane, josh. We were. We were singing his praises a couple of weeks ago. Okay, that's coaching. You either have it or you don't. Apparently shoot, say what you want. But Kevin Stefansky and what he's done, because I'll tell you right now. You had Sean Watson out. Yeah, he did walk in. You had this quarterback in. You had DTR in, then he got hurt. Then you got Sean in, then you got hurt. Then you had this person in, then you got hurt.
TJ:Okay, and they're still winning games. They started winning record. That is coaching, yeah, so when we, when we hear and we talk about, oh uh, this coach needs to be fired or this coach needs to be let go, no, it's very legitimate because this stuff matters. This is why it's important for you to have the head coaching position, because when we need you to coach the most, that's when we tell how great you are or not.
Remy :It's just like boxing making adjustments. Who can make them adjustments? Absolutely, you know what I'm saying and all the coaches and I ain't gonna lie, I don't like hard balls of coach. Never really did Okay.
Damond :I think most of us in Baltimore were hard balls of there and that was Ray Lewis.
Remy :Ray Lewis coached that team when he was there.
Damond :You know what I'm saying? That was Ray's team.
Remy :That's why he went to Ray out of there.
Damond :That was Ray's team.
Remy :So he can have some control. But making them adjustments. There are very few out there, but those ones that can, like Andy Reed, man, it makes the difference and they know who's back there and they got faith in them. They had faith in that quarterback, yeah yeah.
TJ:Or they just had-.
Remy :Ain't nobody got no faith in the Jets backup and the Raiders backup, you know what I'm saying.
TJ:Okay, let me preference my comments by saying this also, because these things can be right at the same time. As much as it speaks volumes that coaching players are integral part in what the backup does, if the backup ain't doing too great, I don't blame you as the head coach. Now, robert Sala, let me take something right now. If I was the Jets ownership right now, I'm giving this man a care package. I'm giving this man a contract extension. I'm giving him a pay raise. What do you want? What do you want? Because I know, look, look, look, look.
TJ:This is the part where I had to be an owner for real, sala, man, I apologize, I'm so sorry, dawg, this is not your fault. We gonna keep you okay, because I know it's depressing being out there and seeing Zach Wilson throw another incomplete pass or another interception or fumbling the football. I know it's hard. I know it's hard and your defense is top 10. So your side of the ball is doing totally fine. But look, man, what you want? Man, you need a foot massage. You need a massage that ball head. I know you got some little. You know like. I know it's not easy. Just let us know what we can do, because in moments like that it's like what else do you want me to do? My side of the ball is doing great. It's not my fault that the other side that shoot. I didn't even pick number one, but number two. It's up there wetting the bed Like they don't know what it's like to call offensive game.
Remy :What do?
TJ:you want me to do? What do you want me to do? My defense is top 10. No, my defense is top 10. This is why I won Brandon Staley fire, because you got hired to make sure that your defense was top 10 and they suck, and then the most expensive defense in the entire NFL and you can't coach them upright. That's a coaching problem. Brandon Staley needs to get out of there, but everybody's talking about oh, rob is all. I need to be gone. What are you talking about?
Damond :Rob is all I need.
TJ:Defense is top 10, for a reason.
Damond :Yes, yes.
TJ:That's his defense. He needs to stay there as long as he wants to. Hey look, if he needs to step there, he need to get comfortable. He need to rest up. You know what I mean? In his office. If that's what he need to do, that's what he's going to do, because none of that is his fault.
Remy :The writers don't Thanks for having me on. I'm going to get back in his comments. I'm going to let you all finish. You know, I appreciate it. I'm going to get back in the comments and let you all roll, but I see you in the NFC championship. Yes, sir.
TJ:Always, always.
Damond :Hey, hey, hey. We going to see y'all real soon.
Remy :Couple of weeks. Oh yeah, talk to you real quick today. All right, yep, real quick today.
TJ:We see you, that's right, all right, ok, so the Raiders. That's a whole other ordeal within itself, because that was a head coaching issue you could. Devonta Adams can't get the ball. Josh Jacobs doesn't know what his life in touch with football eight plus times in a game, are you serious? He left the league in rushing last year. Now all of a sudden he don't see the ball at all. Yeah, mcgail, he'll be out of there.
Damond :Oh, coaching, because, yeah, oh, coaching matters. Come on, all right, let's go down to critical games back in the past, right, critical games, ok. Let's go down to Super Bowl, when Tennessee was down there, right, yeah. And then, well, no, who was it? I'm sorry? Seattle Seahawks. Ok, what did Marshall Lentz say? They never gave me the ball once. Once. Are you kidding me? They never gave me the ball once, coaching. He was like let me run that ball in there, regardless of they were stopping me the whole game. We're on the one yard line. Give me a chance to do this, right, and then they give me a chance. So who can you blame that on? You can't blame it on him, because I can't call my own number. I can't call my own number. You have to give me the play. Hey, you, the quarterback, I don't know what it is. Hey, man, run this ball in here, right, you can change the play. Come on, al, they ain't do it.
TJ:Come on, so that stuff matters. I think the best example of this is what you're seeing in Houston Like they have no business doing what they're doing right now. I've been saying it all year long no business doing what they're doing right now.
Damond :And they went down to the wire with the.
Damond :Broncos. That went down to the last drive of the game. That's coaching on both sides. Sean Payton's getting a little bit together with now both sides. Russell Wilson made that mistake through the pick and he ends up game over. But you really can't blame the play. He did the best he could. He had pressure on his face. He did the best he could, went down to the wire, but that was one of the greatest games of the weekend them two. I didn't expect it to be even like that. Absolutely I did not expect that game to be like that.
TJ:Yeah, and so you have games like that. And then you have games where I'm like, ok, it was supposed to be a blowout and now it's close the Lions and Saints game. I thought for sure the Saints were going to get out of New Orleans.
Damond :We're too off of them.
TJ:Out of New Orleans. Immediately I thought, for sure, that's what was going to happen. I looked at the fourth quarter. I'm like, all right, just getting a little close. Just getting a little close, all right, just getting real close. They's going again. What's going on here?
Damond :But I think the best thing that probably happened with the Saints is when and I don't wish any player getting hurt, but when Carl went out of the game right and Winston came in the game, that was probably the best thing that happened for the Saints. Even the people in the stands were cheering. They was cheering Again. I don't wish anyone to get hurt, just like Lawrence last night. You don't want nobody to get hurt. These guys are careers. This is what they do for a living.
Damond :But it just shows you how momentum can swing versus OK, it could be a good swing or a bad swing, because they was like OK, we got a car out of here. Car's not coming back for a while, because that's the second concussion within what a couple weeks. Jeez, yeah, he ain't coming back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he ain't coming back. Yep, yep. It was the wide receiver starting to get the ball. So again, carl is just. I don't want to know what he'd be thinking or what he'd be looking at, but as soon as he came out of the game, that game just became more of a game, more of a game, more of a game. I said, oh, detroit might lose this game again too. Yeah, but Detroit better start answering some questions on their defense too, because again they're going to win, the division hands down right, but you're going to the playoffs. People play differently. They're going to answer some questions. You can match points with somebody, but you got to be able to stop them on defense.
TJ:Yes.
Damond :So I mean speaking of defense. I mean there's none here in Washington, oh my bad.
TJ:My bad.
Damond :My bad.
TJ:Yeah, because apparently that was Jack Dalrio's fault. Ok sure, Sure, OK sure, All right whatever.
Damond :If Dante said go steal his fuller, the state should be in and there's no way Batman should have jumped from eight to four hundred. We'll bounce back tomorrow. Hey, listen, listen, listen, hey, letitia, letitia. Hey, yeah, letitia, you've been missing a lot, but we haven't even got to the stealers yet. We haven't even got to the stealers, oh thank you Because it's a bad time.
TJ:Yeah, we got to the stealers. Let's address them right now.
Damond :OK, let's hey see, you didn't miss nothing. Ok, you didn't miss nothing.
TJ:Because, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, just when you thought that one side of Pennsylvania was bad, oh, just look at Pittsburgh, pennsylvania, and I'm purposely doing this, because that is just how bad it was in Pittsburgh. Up in that field. It's not called Hinesfield anymore, whatever. Anyways, three different randolades, OK. So both teams had to stop playing three different times, including halftime, including the two minute warning, including whatever commercial break. There was the Cardinals again the Cardinals, the Cardinals. Right, kyle Murray, those Cardinals, the Cardinals. That is going to be picking the top five in the draft this year?
Damond :Y'all off to death, which, again, something I didn't expect. I didn't expect and in my predictions, what did I do? I picked the Steelers. I said the Steelers should not have a problem winning this game. I picked it and when I was like, wait, what is going on in Pittsburgh? What's going on in Pittsburgh? I'm looking at the score, I'm like what's going on in Pittsburgh? And then, you know, kenny Pickett heard again and I think he got heard on the goal line. I did see that hit and now he's out for at least a couple of weeks. I think he had surgery on his ankle or something like that. He had surgery. So now Kenny Pickett's back out. You got your biscuit back in the game. Here's my thing. Oh yeah, the wheels did fall off. You're absolutely right. And, like we just said, coaching comes down to coaching. Tom probably got to have talk with the ownership. Say look, we need a quarterback in here, we need a quarterback in here. She said that was the best play of the game.
Remy :Are you saying?
Damond :Are you saying that's the best play of the game? Jeez.
TJ:OK, that's very dark, right, all righty. But you know, tomlin is in that solid category of what I was talking about earlier, whereas, like, my side of the ball is doing the very best it can Because there ain't no whole lot of teams that's going to be scoring 30 points on us. There ain't going to be a whole lot of teams doing that. But I mean, can we get something? I mean, it's not like we don't have weapons. We got Najiaris, we got General Warren, we got, you know, we got George Pickens, like we got farmals. Can I get something?
Damond :If they get and this is what I think Pittsburgh needs, if they get a mobile quarterback.
TJ:Justin Fields. Justin Fields, yep.
Damond :You think Tomlin can't coach that guy? You think Tomlin can't coach him? Did you think Tomlin cannot coach him? Man? He would go to Pittsburgh and probably be a beast. I'm saying right now Probably he will be.
TJ:He gets to have, he gets to actually have weapons. The game doesn't what it's either them or Atlanta. For Justin, that's the only market that he has in the off season this year, Because I don't think he's going to stay in Chicago, atlanta and Pittsburgh. I think Chicago can get rid of them.
TJ:Yeah, Atlanta and Pittsburgh has to be 1A and 1B. They got to be Because they both both of those teams know, given how they're playing this year, there are literally one solid quarterback. You don't need a great quarterback for those teams. If you just get a solid quarterback for your team, you're easily nine and 10 wins.
Damond :Bad Fields ain't bad. If you look at the last couple of games, he been playing his hard out. Playing his hard out, yeah, playing his hard out. I'm like I said, he needs a better coaching system around him Because he can prosper. That is a good acquisition. If he goes to Pittsburgh, he goes to Pittsburgh, yeah, yeah, it's going to change the whole dynamic in the AMC North Shoot.
TJ:Trade, trade you can. You can give Chicago. Is he worth the third round? That's kind of high register If you give, if you send him a fourth round and maybe another pick to follow here.
Damond :but it's how I mean to curse it, but I can go to Pittsburgh and do a better job. I can do.
TJ:I think all of us can. I mean it ain't hard. Hey Nazi Harris, come on man. Hey Warren, what you want, man? Oh, you want something on the backfield? Hey, here you go, pickings. You want a short round? Hey, come on. Yeah, come on, move. I see you in the middle, go ahead. I got you dawg Like I swear you could implement any one of us in Madden right now and have them, have us start for the Steelers, and they're easily a 10 to 11 win team right now. Right now, that's how close they are. That's how close they are.
Damond :But a hashtag quest for seven. That's what? Anything. But what I'm saying is this I said, and me and Daughter, we debate about that and we talk about all the time we say I said pick it or Trubisky ain't the answer. They're not the answer. We've all said that they need to get them out of there. I don't understand why they still holding on to them. I would have been like, look, let's trade, let's get fields, let's get somebody, let's get OK. Ok, I give you one better. Let's say, if Dobbs wouldn't have went there, dobbs could have went to Pittsburgh. Dobbs could have went to Pittsburgh.
TJ:But I think, I don't think Pittsburgh is in the the stage of getting a bridge quarterback again. They can't, they can't be, they can't be. Pick, it is not your guy. Trubisky is a bridge quarterback, you get another one. What to wait until two years later to see if you can find somebody in a draft again? I mean, I'm not totally against it, but I believe a lot of drug quarterback. He did a better job than them two up there.
Damond :He did a better job. He did a better job, oh absolutely, absolutely.
TJ:I don't think we're going to have a conversation about oh my gosh, they got over 400 yards. 400 yards total offense, this is great, and yet they went 16 to 10. Like, I don't think we're going to have that conversation if Dobbs was in there. I'm not saying that, but in terms of future, you're going to have them for like a one year rental, because I think Dobbs is 28 right now. Like, before you know it, he's going to hit 30. I don't care who you are. If you're not Patrick Mahomes, if you're not in the upper echelon of quarterbacks, you hit 30. And you're not starting nowhere. Your career started to look a little bleep. It started to look a little bleep after that. So you know, dobbs being there it would be cool, but, knowing the Steelers, they're only going to keep him for like a year and then they're going to turn to somebody else and oh, that's how we forget about that.
Damond :Y'all had him. Yeah, yeah, sure, oh my God, y'all had him. That must be the worst. Y'all should have kept him Absolutely. I'm like, no, let me give Dobbs a chance. I mean anytime. Like I said, he got traded to a team he know no lie's name. He put that guy in the game. He won the game, won the game. Yep, didn't know no anyone's name. Yeah, so you talk about impress, knowing what he had up against him, and then happen to know some playbooks right on the fly, like oh my.
Damond :God, I don't know any of these plays Right and they won the game Absolutely. So again, I think he would have been better than Trabisky and Pickett.
TJ:So yeah, but like the NFL and after all.
Damond :She's not a Pickett fan. She is not a fan of Pickett. So. But again, obviously, even with the delays and what history has shown us, especially with weather delays, whoever the teams losing seem to get the momentum and start winning. I'm just trying to figure out where that happened, what the stealers wasn't winning. And again, we can't, you can't blame it all on the defense, because that defense can do everything. Yeah, the defense is what? Top five, you're top five. You can't put everything on the defense. Them boys are going to get tired. They won't get tired.
TJ:They won the field too long. Come on Stop it. Stop it.
Damond :Come on. But this is what I want to talk about Monday Night Football. Like you say, any given Sunday, even a given Monday, man Bangles just wasn't giving up Cause I didn't expect them to win that game, especially as red hot as Jacksonville is Jacksonville red hot. I was like, oh yeah, this game's probably and they lost, jacksonville lost. You could feel the air come out that stadium when Herbert got hurt. The fans you could see it, feel it. I said oh, oh, it's changed. I said yeah, since he probably gonna win this game. Well, sure enough, over time we go down field goal games over.
TJ:You know, and it was so rough seeing Lawrence get hurt because it was like the way the game was going was already going so great, so great. I mean I'm talking about back and forth. You respond, I respond Like I wasn't prepared for that. I just wasn't. And Jake Browning I said it before and I'll say it again what the hell? I mean seriously like five incompletions. He was acting like he was the second coming of Drew Brees and I mean Jamar Chase was seen again. He got in the end zone a couple of times.
Damond :Yeah, he had to go to the end he should have had one, but he Browning missed it because T Higgins was on a slant. Yeah, he left the defender.
TJ:See, but see even the ones that he missed, so they still got a positive play out of it. That's the scary thing, Cause usually if we watch replays in certain games, if there was an incompletion or something bad happened, we always say, oh well, if they just looked to the other side of the field, then this would have easily been. This would have been a walk in touchdown. What happened last night was, regardless of what happened, regardless of what decision Browning made, it was a positive play. It was a positive play. There was no downside with, regardless of what decision he made, regardless of what the rest of the field looked like.
Damond :That's scary. And he never looked rattled. And he never looked rattled the whole time. Never looked rattled the whole time.
TJ:He also didn't go through the ground a whole lot.
Damond :Nope, nope, never looked rattled. So again I, like I said, I was totally shocked, even though I was rooting for the Bengals but I was totally shocked, right right, I was like the Bengals won the game. Oh my God, oh man. I was like, wow Listen, it's truly any given Sunday, monday, thursday, whatever it don't matter.
Damond :Them boys like, hey look, you just not gonna write us off, we gonna fight you, right? Yep, and I'm not writing the Rams off when they come in here, and even because remember, look what they just did, I ain't writing the Rams off. But I do one thing I don't trust Matthew Stafford. He gets pressured, they get pressured on Stafford. He ain't gonna have a good game, right? He ain't gonna have a good game.
TJ:That's gonna happen. That's why it's not even. It's not even gonna be a conversation. But Jacksonville, though. This is really rough for them because they didn't just lose Trevor Lawrence. I know that the injuries not as serious as they thought, it was a high ankle sprain. But, number one can we talk about the fact that the man didn't leave on a cart or something? I don't know what it's like in Jacksonville, but I'm pretty sure Jacksonville has a lot of golf carts. He couldn't be sitting on a golf cart somewhere carried on to the locker room. Are you kidding me? He's walking all the way down. I know, I know that that was just. That was even worse to watch than seeing him on the ground. Number one. Number two is you lose him. You lose Christian Kirk also. He's gonna be out for a little bit. He's one of your best pass catchers. You go from not only losing the number one seed, which already looks like they wasn't gonna keep hold of him anyways, you may lose the division to Houston.
Damond :Hmm, hmm, hmm. But like we said, houston, they're just matching with you. I could see Houston winning the division. And just like you can see it now, you can see it now, I can see it, I can see it, I can see it, it's in their favor now.
TJ:And you know what Can? I, and I didn't even think this was gonna be possible we might have three teams out of the ASC South, arguably the worst division in all of football, in comparison to the NFC South. Ironically, three teams out of that division making the playoffs. What is going on? Houston can very well make it, Jacksonville can make it. I don't even know what's going on in Indy, and they're finding a way to win games now.
Damond :What is going on? They miss you, in fact. They miss you in fact.
TJ:They miss you. In fact, man, like again. What they're doing in with the Colts is a pretty example of what I was talking about earlier. That's coaching. They lost their Star Wars quarterback at the beginning of the year. They didn't have Johnson Taylor ever running back. They still don't have weapons on the outside outside of Michael Pittman. Okay, in dirt seven and five, if the playoffs were to start today, they would be in it. Are you kidding me? That's coaching. I mean, if I'm Jacksonville right now, it does not look good, because it could very well go from bad to worse To worse.
Damond :Yeah, really fast, really fast. And guess who's going Jacksonville schedule the Ravens and we coming to Jacksonville. See, see, so the Ravens, they said they only gave them a 36% chance of beating us, and we coming to their house. So yep.
TJ:So I mean, it couldn't have come at a worse time. I honestly no, absolutely. I honestly think that they needed to win last night. If they had won last night we would have. I'm pretty sure a lot of people would have been like, okay, it's going to be rough without Lawrence, but we've seen that they could pull it out. They could win if the game is close. That's all they need. They just need a game to be close.
Damond :They need an opportunity, absolutely they need an opportunity.
TJ:But they lost. They lost and now you didn't just lose a careless game to where you could say, oh well, we'll be fine. No, you needed to win that game in order to stay at the top of your division, Because now that you're not, who knows what happens in the next two or three weeks? Who knows Anything could happen now? So I mean, it's a tough loss with Trevor Lawrence being out, it's going to be tough without Christian Kirk, but they need to figure something out before Houston and the Coles has something to say about it TD.
Damond :Yeah, they already got something to say about it, and I don't I haven't even heard how long long it's going to be out yet.
TJ:It's a high Uncle Sprayne. I'm not a doctor, but I'm going to assume that that's going to be a four to six week process.
Damond :That's going to look like a saw movie when we go down there.
TJ:Pretty much, and so you're going to be out for the next month and a half hoping, praying and trying to get into the playoffs, and, if you, all do you all might get them back, maybe, Like y'all have, y'all still may have to win a playoff game without them. I don't see how that happens. I really don't. So without them for that long, I don't know.
Damond :We can't exactly say that. I mean, who would have thought Cincinnati was going to walk in there and beat them last night with Jake Browning? With Jake Browning, even though he has an Arsenal receivers around him, he is mixing. Yeah, yeah, it's an Arsenal. Yes, I'm not not. I'm not not getting since you for that. He has an Arsenal around him. But who would have thought they'd have walked up and down the field with Jacksonville last night? No one would have thought that. Yeah.
TJ:No one would have thought that, yeah, but you missing, you missing Kirk, I just. I mean you have Travis Etn and Calvin Reilly, so I guess you could say that is your Arsenal to work with, which is not bad, but it's just not great, especially going forward, because we already know they're going to stack the box against Etn. We already know that Calvin Reilly is going to get double teamed. I'm surprised that didn't happen last night because boy oh boy, was he balling yesterday. Yep, that's not going to happen all the time. So you don't have to Arsenal. You got to back up quarterback who, honestly, last night didn't play terrible, he was I. He was first of all, first of all. But going forward, I don't know, I might need to Well, you know glasses.
Damond :Yeah, it made me time oh my goodness, let me say this, let me say this, and then I'm a breeze right on past them because, visiting the home team, how you go, how you let Miami come over there and take over that stadium Again there?
TJ:was more.
Damond :Yeah, they let them. They let them just take over the stadium. What I'm talking about? The fans. Oh yeah, there was more Miami Dolphin fans in that stadium than it was Washington. Are you surprised? You're surprised? Oh no, I'm not surprised at all. I'm not surprised at all, and you know. Let me give a shot of my daughter. My daughter was dead. She's a Miami Dolphin fans.
Damond :I give a shot because she was in the stands. She was out there cheering on her day. She liked the shellac in the happen. You know she was happy. She knows she was even up there doing the end zone dance with men's dance.
TJ:Oh, that's cool.
Damond :Look at that Right. So she loved Miami. She came to see her team. You know I was like, ok, hey, listen, listen. She was happy, happy that they put a waxing on a Commodore's, commander's Washington football team whatever you want to call yourself these days. But hey, like you said earlier, fire Jack Del Rio. Anybody else want to get fired here?
TJ:Come on, get out of here, Ron Get out of here.
Damond :Anybody else want to get fired? I'm just asking. I'm just asking Seriously, come on, I'm going to breeze past them. We already talked about that. I'm not talking about the Falcons and the Jets, because that was a baseball score, so we're going to breeze all past that. Coaches and the Cs seem to be a pretty good game. Yeah, we already talked about that. Hey, you know what I'm done with the talking. Let's get to the brown bags.
TJ:Please, I feel like just those five seconds alone. Are you talking about the Jets and Falcons? It's been very visible, for yeah, matter of fact, that's my first brown bag.
Damond :That game, that game, first brown bag. How about we just give it to that game? That's my first brown bag. Falcons and the Jets, y'all get brown bags. How? Y'all going to have a baseball score? I'm just asking. The shame, the shame, even though the Falcons may have won the game and again, you know my buddy down there, the head coach, with his facial expressions, he probably passed out on the field did snow angels down there on the field because he was happy that they beat the Jets? We beat the Jets. Who did you beat? Wow, he really didn't beat anybody. Both of them get brown bags. Go for it.
TJ:Yeah, you know what? I am going to give a brown bag to the entire state of Pennsylvania football teams because we thought it was a great idea to not cover Christian McCaffrey, debo, samuel, george Kittle and basically the entire 49ers offense. The linebackers and safeties were non-existent, the corners were non-existent, they got shellacked, they got murdered, they got slaughtered, they got bludgeoned. Whatever word you want to use, it transpired Okay. And then you go to the other side of Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh couldn't get the job done against the Cardinals, the Cardinals through three rain delays. What does that mean? When I say that? That means both teams had ample, the same amount of time of rest, of preparing, of executing, as much as anybody else, and they just didn't show up at all At all. Brown bag, immediately, immediately. And if y'all don't get it now, you don't get it, like the Washington Post. So there you go.
Damond :Oh my goodness, it's our state. Huh, yeah, you did like when I did in Colorado, whole state.
TJ:Yeah, I mean, I know there's no happy campers right now. I just know there's not, but you better get over it and better figure it out soon and fast, in a hurry, because it's not going to look pretty going forward. Play that right now, ok, all right.
Damond :Well, I'm going to just go a little bit north for you. I'm going to go a little bit north, a little bit north for you. New England, the whole team, yeah, everybody in New England getting the brown bag. Because how do you get goose egg by the Chargers? I'm just asking you got goose egg by the Chargers. Let me say this again you got goose egg by the Chargers, the Chargers. Are you kidding me? Goose egg, are you kidding me? You got goose egg by the Chargers.
TJ:I can't believe that we're going to have a debating brown bag that we're going to show, because my next brown bag is going to go to the Los Angeles Chargers, because that entire game, you come up with just six points. Six points, are you kidding me? Six, oh, my god, please. Six, no Six.
Damond :That alone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean.
TJ:That alone is a brown bag. You got to be kidding me. I don't care if it's a win or a loss. Six to nothing is the final score. What is this soccer? What is this baseball? You kidding me? This is the start of the first couple of minutes in the NBA game, are you kidding me? Six to nothing, please, please, brown bag for the Chargers. Good lord, you don't deserve that win whatsoever. Such shame.
Damond :I got one. I got one. I got one, I got one. Ok, brownlee, why are you hitting the head of security over there, dude? Come on man. You get a brown bag for getting ejected from the game. Ok, you're hitting the head of security. Ok, you know everybody's going to talk trashy, but you win uniform equipment, sir. You can't be hitting nobody. That had nothing on. You get a brown bag for getting ejected from the game, sir. But when I was reading comments about that, apparently he has an attitude problem.
TJ:Oh, now, all of a sudden, he has an attitude problem. He has an attitude problem.
Damond :They say he's like the Earl Thomas of Seattle. That's what they say.
TJ:Now, all of a sudden, I haven't heard anything bad about Drake Greenlaw all year long. Now, all of a sudden, he has an attitude issue.
Damond :There is an attitude problem.
TJ:That's such a low hanging fruit thing to say, Just because it's the heat of the moment. We got to do better than that, y'all Come on.
Damond :Hey, I'm always here for the comment. I'm always here for the comment.
TJ:That's insane.
Damond :Oh my god, Anymore, anymore, anymore.
TJ:My last one is going to go to you know what, and this is shocking, because they won, but Houston gets a brown bag. For me, uh-oh and this is a personal slash fantasy reason for why they are getting a brown bag Because they thought it was a great idea at the goal line to have one of their star receivers blocking on a running play that ended up ultimately breaking his leg, getting hurt.
TJ:And now the output of the rest of the year. You stupid idiots, what are you thinking? What was he doing out there? Look, I'm trying to be nice. I'm very humble. I am a very nice guy when it comes to these teams and to the sport of football, but in moments like that, seriously, what was that? Seriously, what was he out there for?
Damond :Coaching. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, coaching.
TJ:Aye aye, aye.
Damond :Keys to the squeeze. Brown bag. I got one more. I got one more. I got one more. I'm going to make sure Kelsey's still there. Man, kelsey, where you at Kelsey? I got one more brown bag. One more brown bag. Uh-oh wait, the college football committee gets a brown bag. Hey, anybody can get it, baby, anybody can get it. Anyone can get it. So, college football committee, y'all get brown bags too. But here, my last brown bag is going to go to Mr Butterfingers, number 11, up in Kansas City. Butterfingers, number 11. I'm going to give it to Butterfingers number 11 up in Kansas City. Yes, he gets my brown bag. Why, what did he do? Huh, what did he do? Hey, I'm going all the way back to the Eagles game with that. He can catch the ball. He's riding that one for the whole season. Baby, he's riding that one for the whole season, mr Butterfingers, that is his name until this season ends.
TJ:Oh my god.
Damond :So that's my last one.
TJ:Oh wow, I was not prepared for that. That was a curveball Good one.
Damond :Thank you, I know, absolutely. Hey, listen, listen, listen, gotta give it to him, gotta give it all up. Everybody can get it. Everybody can get it. Hey, the whole state of Pennsylvania. Hey, I went a little bit, 95 north, went up to New England. You know, wait a minute, Wait a minute. They didn't play this week. That's why, oh boy, they didn't play this week. Oh boy, I'm going to leave Buffalo alone. I'm going to leave Buffalo alone this week. Ok, the entire state of New York, yeah, the entire state of New York. I'm going to leave them alone. I'm going to leave them alone.
TJ:Well, some state had to take the lump, so end up being Pennsylvania this week. You're welcome. Good job, new York.
Damond :I'm going to leave them alone. Yeah, I'm going to leave New York alone. Well, all right, when we wind it down to show, I appreciate everybody turning in. Oh, my god, it's y'all hilarious, y'all, funny, I love y'all. I love y'all. But I already know that if the Ravens lose next week to the Rams, y'all going to be ready for me. Oh, it's going to be this. I'm telling you, and I'm going to be like this coming on the show, I'm probably going to have a black hoodie, some glasses. You know I'm not going to give me the business, but listen, listen, listen. Are we going to wind up? We're going to wind. So look out for the week. Wait, I thought to say week 14.
TJ:Week 14 already, already, already.
Damond :Oh, a hand mercy. Week 14 already. We are just getting this down the park. Hey, listen, wow, week 17 going to be interesting. Interesting. Show is Interesting Because right now AFC is going through Miami or Baltimore, one of the two. It's going through Miami or Baltimore, one of the two. Now I prefer for it to come through Baltimore you know it's cold up here and then bring all these people here in this cold.
Damond :And I hope it's actually cold here, like it is up in Green Bay, so bring them through here. Yeah, everything got to run through here, but, as always, we are here. We tuned in, we said our opinions, now we are tuning out. So we will see y'all next Tuesday and, as always, thank y'all for coming in.