Get set for an exhilarating ride down the playoff lane as your hosts Damon and TJ, along with guest Dave from the Dave and Doc Podcast, dissect the AFC Championship like seasoned surgeons of the sport. This episode is a head-to-head battle of wits, predictions, and pure football passion as we size up the titans of the turf, Baltimore and Kansas City. We're putting Lamar Jackson's agility and Patrick Mahomes' arm strength under the microscope, predicting scores, and even letting you in on the best of local fandom, from crab cakes to "brown bag" bets.
Buckle up, because this isn't your average sports talk; it's a blend of sharp analysis, heartfelt team legacies, and the quirky side of NFL fanfare. From the Texans' playoff hustle to the Niners' offensive hiccups, we're covering all the bases, complete with Dave's insider 49ers intel. Experience the rush of playoff pressure and the dynamics of team spirit as we chew over everything from coaching stability to sports media's impact on the gridiron narrative.
By the time the whistle blows on this episode, you'll have laughed, maybe cringed, and definitely gained insight into the raw thrill of football playoffs. We're sharing personal tales from the sidelines, trading jabs over regional specialties, and even sparking a #bountygate conspiracy theory – all in the name of good, clean sports rivalry. So, forget the armchair quarterbacking; you're in the big leagues now, where every prediction and fan reaction counts!
Get set for an exhilarating ride down the playoff lane as your hosts Damon and TJ, along with guest Dave from the Dave and Doc Podcast, dissect the AFC Championship like seasoned surgeons of the sport. This episode is a head-to-head battle of wits, predictions, and pure football passion as we size up the titans of the turf, Baltimore and Kansas City. We're putting Lamar Jackson's agility and Patrick Mahomes' arm strength under the microscope, predicting scores, and even letting you in on the best of local fandom, from crab cakes to "brown bag" bets.
Buckle up, because this isn't your average sports talk; it's a blend of sharp analysis, heartfelt team legacies, and the quirky side of NFL fanfare. From the Texans' playoff hustle to the Niners' offensive hiccups, we're covering all the bases, complete with Dave's insider 49ers intel. Experience the rush of playoff pressure and the dynamics of team spirit as we chew over everything from coaching stability to sports media's impact on the gridiron narrative.
By the time the whistle blows on this episode, you'll have laughed, maybe cringed, and definitely gained insight into the raw thrill of football playoffs. We're sharing personal tales from the sidelines, trading jabs over regional specialties, and even sparking a #bountygate conspiracy theory – all in the name of good, clean sports rivalry. So, forget the armchair quarterbacking; you're in the big leagues now, where every prediction and fan reaction counts!
Good evening, Good evening. Sorry for the late start. You know some technical difficulties over here, but we are in this, Mickey. Well, it's me, your boy Damon, with the DK entry podcast. Of course I'm happy. Of course I'm happy because, guess what? We got the AFC championship game that we going through. All I'm saying is this I've been talking cat trash to my family up in Kansas City and any Kansas City fan I can get my hands on. All week long. We just been talking trash. But, as you always notice, as you always notice, I got sponsors going at the bottom of the screen finally going. But I got to bring my boy in here because we got some things to talk about. Tj welcome.
TJ:What's going on? What's happened? What's happened?
Damond :Listen, of course I'm happy this week. Of course Baltimore is on fire today. Matter of fact, they started selling tickets today to the game man. I looked up some of them tickets. I said, well, I won't be going, I'm not paying the prices. I'm not paying the prices. So, like I said, let the shenanigans begin and bore. Baltimore has just been completely with the shenanigans because, I'm telling you, they have been off the chain with these Taylor Swift. So, yeah, taylor has been all around Baltimore. Matter of fact, we got to get our chicken box in the half and half.
TJ:That was some crabs in there too. While we're at it, there's a crab still everything in there.
Damond :Like I said, Taylor has been all around Baltimore. I'm just saying it is bashful week here between us and the chiefs. This is the biggest thing. Hey, like Tony Romo said, like Rick Flair says, to beat a man, you got to beat the man. Hey, this is the more Jackson's opportunity to beat the man. And you know, I know, we talked after the divisional rounds and you said, oh, I got to think about this and all that. But now I think I'm going to ramp this one up a little bit. I don't think this game is going to be close. I really don't.
Damond :Because, remember, if you watch the Buffalo and Kansas City game, they went up and down the field on each other. They did. They went up and down, up and down. There was no defense in that game. It was just like what y'all offense is going to have a ball last? Or, I'm sorry, can you pay for a kicker in this league? Can anybody pay for a kicker? Can anyone pay for a kicker in this league? Right, I'm just asking. So you know.
Damond :And if it wasn't for the miss field goal, who knows what would have happened? You really don't know what would have happened, but my thing of it is is that I'm looking at down. They got to come in here and play that defense. Is my home is going to be ready for that? Is he going to be ready for? Hey, I look, I got this. You know, we, we, we going to be all right? I don't know, because only two people he can rely on right now is right Since Kelsey. Who else? I mean Pacheco's a beast, I'm not, I'm not Pacheco's a beast, but I just think the Ravens defense is going to be on them. They, they are, they're going to give him so many different looks they be like. Oh God, remember the loss of Tyreek Hill. If they had Tyreek Hill, I'd be a little nervous. I'd be a little nervous, I would hope so.
Damond :Tyreek is a game changer all the way around because he can come out the backfield, he can get I reached just a different animal. Yeah, but like I said, purple Week all week, purple Week, baltimore's Purple Week all week.
TJ:Um, so here's, here's my, here's my thing, and I and I wanted to. I wanted to predicate my portion of the of the show on why every team has a case of winning this Sunday, ok, so, since you have me walking to Kansas City, I'll give you, I'll give you a bottle for Kansas City, ok? Um, you do know that Patrick Mahomes has six and completions on Sunday, right?
Damond :Yes.
TJ:OK, you're aware that. Are you aware that Isaiah Pacheco had 97 yards in a touchdown this past, this past weekend? You're aware?
Damond :Yes, I do.
TJ:OK, are you aware of Travis Kelsey having two touchdowns this past weekend? Yes, ok, here's another thing I'm pretty sure you're not aware of, and this is what I paid attention to. Did you know that this chief's offensive line, the offensive line that we've crapped on all year, that can't protect Mahomes and all this other stuff? All year long we've been saying that's been the same narrative all year they have not allowed a single sack on 64 playoff dropbacks. What does that mean? That means every time Patrick Mahomes drop packs, drops back to pass, he is not getting touched. Now, for those of you who are a fan of this team, y'all know a thing or two about how this story goes, because this happened to us last year. Now, granted, the Ravens are not the same defense as Philly was last year, but I would like to remind everybody that the Eagles defense last year had seventy sacks and was getting to the quarterback all year long. Then they play Mahomes and they didn't sack him one time. So so I, I gotta, I gotta say that, if that, if there was a legitimate reason for why, why the chiefs would win this game, it would be those reasons. I just, I just stated Mahomes out of any time during the year. Picked this time, picked last week, last week to be practically I don't know if the word is flawless, but he played as accurate as he possibly can be. Sixth in completion is insane. Ok, right, then you have Pacheco. That's getting ninety ninety seven yards. He's averaging five point eight yards a carry, so that's six yards that you're getting out Pacheco on each run. Ok, and if you don't take care of Kelsey, rishi Rice is still there. Valdes Catling is starting to cast the football now, as you saw last week, it's it's. It's going to be a dog fight. This is going to be a dog fight for me, for me Now, from Baltimore, and I know you're going to love to hear this.
TJ:This is why I believe Baltimore would win this game. Because, the same thing I'm missing about Mahomes, I want to remind you a little bit something about Lamar Jackson. I feel like you know this, but I'll say it anyways. Lamar Jackson had six in completions all game. Do you? Do you remember that being the case? That happened? Oh, yes, I do. Ok, do you do you also understand that he had four total touchdowns on this past weekend?
Dave :Yeah, I do OK.
TJ:How about the fact that he did all this without throwing an interception? Do you remember that also? Yes, I do. Ok. Lastly, did you know that said Baltimore team had a total of 229 rushing yards last week? Oh, yeah, ok.
TJ:Ok, so for Baltimore, you have a team that is going to rough you up, going to run downhill, and there ain't much that you can do about it, regardless of who has a ball in their hands. Ok Now, granted, there was not a receiver that went over 60 yards receiving, but I think anytime you're in a position where you're blowing a team out practically 34 to 3, as you mentioned you're not going to get a whole lot of yards. Ok, that's just the nature of it all. That's all that is. Now the defense did something that, if I'm the chiefs, I would be very worried about, and that's how many tackles for loss they had this past Saturday. They had five. So what does that mean? That means, pacheco, you may have gotten away with those silly second chance, extra yardage, but I remind you, if Baltimore Ravens have a defense that will stop you in your tracks and will do it all game long, they will do it all game long.
TJ:So, since you put me in this corner for this game. I'll do this now. I'm going to get this out of the way. Now I got Baltimore winning this game. I have Baltimore winning this game by the score of 34, 31. I do. I think there's going to be some high scoring. I think there's going to be a lot of different points being put on the board. This is going to remind you of if you remember this fondly of when Baltimore played the Rams weeks ago. That's what I see this game being.
TJ:That's what. I see this game being. That's what I see this game being Back and forth. I'm not sure if it's going to go to overtime or not. Probably not If it does great for us, but this is a game where it's going to go down to time of possession. Who had the less turnovers? Who made the less mistakes? If I have to count on those three things, believe it or not, baltimore checks all three of those boxes.
Damond :Yes, they do.
TJ:Baltimore is the team to beat. I've said it countless times. They are a one-way ticket to the Lombardi trophy. It will not come easy for me. It will not. They will not.
Damond :I'm a beg the differ just a little. I agree with all your points, but I'm a beg the differ just a little. Each time, and each time I've said that I didn't think that even one of these games will blow out. What did the Ravens do? They went there and tore the fur off. It wasn't not recognized teams, these were top notch teams. They went into Santa Clara and beat the breaks off to 49ers. Detroit came here and got dealt with. When I'm thinking, okay, they're good teams, they're going to give us a fight, they wasn't even close. It seems like Mike McDonnell has to give all the credit in the world to that guy man, because he's studying that film and he's scheming them.
Damond :Defenses to get to. This is what we're going to do. This is how we're going to get to the quarterback. This is the pressure that we're going to do. Did Mike McDonnell his flowers man? The way he's scheming that defense? No one's figured it out. No one's figured it out. Everything Again, just because we had four losses. But who has truly beat the Ravens this season? No one, no one. The Ravens has tore the fur off everybody. The Rams gave us the toughest fight, the toughest from the NFC. The Rams gave us there because they went up and down the field on each other. Hey, these are two teams that don't play each other. They don't know.
Damond :Of course we got to do this, but I'm telling you I just feel a little bit different. Like I said, pacheco's a beast. You can't take that away from him. Kelsey's a beast. You can't take that away from him. Rashid Rice then stepped up, came out of nowhere and then all started from that Dolphins game. He just all right, I'm going to get hot. I just got hot. I'm just going to catch these balls. My homies, you can count on me, don't worry about Valetis Gantley. I got you, yeah, yeah, but the fingers McBob. So he has, I mean he has his pieces in place where he can do Also let's not forget, my homies can still run also, which he does, he can still run.
Damond :He can still get out the pocket. You know you have to worry about all that, but the Ravens have seemed to okay. We talk about Queen and um.
Dave :Queen and um.
Damond :Smith. Yeah, queen and Smith best linebacker duel in the NFL. Them dudes can get sideline to sideline in no time. In no time. Will it be a challenge for them? Yeah, it's going to be a challenge for them. But even if you get past those two, you still got to deal with that secondary you still. So they all get to you some way or the other. You got Hamilton that'll be up on the line and just blitz you out of nowhere. That's going to throw your timing and your rhythm off.
Damond :You know, that defense again reminds me of that 2000 defense and that's scary. It does. It's reminding me of that because they're taking names and prisoners and they're like we're going to run through you. It's not we going to beat you, we're going to run through you. And this is the perfect scenario of what Baltimore needs to do. They need to go in there, make a statement, make a statement, say okay, you were the champs, this is our time.
Damond :Now it's that all passing the torch. Okay, look, look how it's been passed down. Sure, brady, right, brady, to my homes. My home is going to pass it to Lamar. You got a to beat a man. You got beat the man, and for the longest time who was the man Brady? Brady was the man to beat and Peyton Manning couldn't get over that for a while.
Damond :You know it's changing of the guard. I think Lamar is so focused and even Shannon Sharp brought this one up. He says Lamar's focus is completely different. He said the man said it on his draft night. You're going to get a ring out of me and this is his opportunity to do it. Yeah, not only MVP of the league, but possibly could be MVP of the Super Bowl. Could be, just depending on what happens or who we play. You just never know. But I give it to that whole Ravens coaching staff for what Hall ball has done and what he's brought in there and what they've done with Lamar to unlock his potential, because that is so scary and that's the dynamic that people really downplay is his potential. Duncan has opened him up, said hey, I believe in you, is your play, go for it. If you need to change it, change it. You do what you need to do. I'm not changing your play, but here you go and yeah, it's worked all season long, from week one all the way up to this championship game. It is work.
Dave :And even in the game against Houston.
Damond :What'd he say? He said I cussed everybody out. He said it's a press conference. He said I can't say it is being appropriate. But he said we got it together in the second half. And they did, and they beat the breaks of Houston. And again, all you Houston fans that sitting out here talking saying, oh you know this, you know it was a rookie quarterback, it was a rookie coach. Last I checked they was in the NFL, the national football league. This ain't high school football, this ain't college football. Stop making these excuses. They lost. They lost their professional football team, a team that where those players get paid Good money to do what they do. And they lost. Accept it, move on, because if the Ravens were lost, guess what? I would have accepted it and moved on. It ain't a simple. I don't make no excuses for professional athletes.
TJ:So yeah that's my take and again, again, like for those who who have that mindset, I'll remind you that this wasn't the type of noise that you were saying when they beat the Browns. You didn't have this type of noise when they got to the playoffs. When they beat the Colts. We didn't have this type of noise when CJ Strah was doing what he was doing all year. We didn't have that. We didn't have that type of conversation in. So the fact that it takes a loss in the playoffs for people to start saying that it's weak in my personal opinion, but like that's just the truth of the matter, y'all weren't y'all seriously weren't even having this type of conversation when they were winning, when they were doing what they were doing, they lost. They lost to the better team. Everybody said that Baltimore Ravens was the better team. Everybody said that it was just a matter of time. It took a little bit longer than everybody expected, but that ended up being the case and that is okay.
TJ:Sometimes you really need to understand how much of the outcome of the season really affects your franchise, regardless of how this season went for Houston, whether they went to the ASC Championship game and got bounced, whether they got bounced this past Saturday or if they got bounced in the wildcard round. You had a great season Last year, let me remind y'all. Last year y'all were two and 14, y'all were selecting second overall to draft, cj Stroud. Y'all were so many things that I am not even going to see on this show because that's how awful y'all were. That's why the phrase of remember where you came from, don't forget where you came from, that applies here.
TJ:You have a rookie y'all won a playoff game with a rookie head coach, a rookie offensive coordinator and a rookie quarterback Everybody's in their first year doing this Again. I'll say it again a roster that outside of CJ Stroud, you don't know anybody else on that roster unless you are a football junkie. Again, that team got to the divisional round and played against a much more experienced, better talented and overall well-rounded franchise in Baltimore. It's okay, it happens. It happens Now. At least you didn't pull a stinker like some teams, but y'all showed up. Y'all showed up. By the way, the final score don't even tell the full story because, as much as we say that the final score should be 34 to 3, if you watched the game from beginning to end, those Houston Texans fought hard until the very end.
Damond :Yes, they did. They didn't lay down.
TJ:They did not lay down. There were still plays being made throughout the entire game, regardless of what the score was. They just didn't get it into the end zone. It happens, especially against Baltimore. It really happens Right. So there's no loss. If you're a Houston Texans fan right now, no loss whatsoever. Just lost to the better team and honestly, y'all aren't. If we're being honest, what? Maybe two or three pieces away from being in the conversation for being in the Super Bowl already?
Damond :Already, already.
TJ:I would just kill off off of the rookie quarterback stuff, because y'all are one free agent period away, one draft period away from being a perennial top team in AFC and the top 10 team in NFL. You're not close. I actually put you on the top 10 right now for being honest.
Damond :So because the hardest division to fight through is the AFC North. And they beat Sensi, they beat Cleveland, they beat well. They beat Cleveland on the second one to play off Absolutely yeah, cj Stroud was out in that first game, right. And they beat Pittsburgh. That's no easy feat, right, there's no easy feat. Coming to the AFC North, beating these teams, because they know what the AFC North is very physical, them guys don't hit you, no matter what team in the AFC North. You're going to feel that you've been playing that game because they're going to pop you, right. So that's no easy feat. You beat three out of the four teams in the division. That's no easy feat, something they done and something that, like I said, even okay. If CJ wouldn't have got the concussion, they probably would have had more where they probably would have won those two games that they lost.
TJ:Yeah no-transcript.
Damond :So we Houston has nothing to be ashamed of. I just hate all the excuses that they make about oh, rookie this and rookie that. No, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it For what they did in their first year. Putting that system back together from what you came from last year to this year was amazing. And to get to a divisional round of a playoff that's everyone needs a raise.
TJ:Exactly, I forgot to mention that they won the division. Everybody forget about that. They won the division. Yes, you won the division. You hosted a playoff game. It wasn't just the fact that I got there, Y'all hosted a playoff game. I mean, we had a better record than y'all and we still had to end up going in Tampa.
Damond :Right.
TJ:Yeah, that, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean like be grateful, man. Just this last year y'all were trying to figure out who to draft this second overall. Let's not do this, man, let's not.
Damond :No, let's not. And now I gotta get on with my family out in Kansas City because, yeah, I mean, they think I'm coming for them, they coming for me, and I see Kelsey ain't jumped on here yet.
TJ:So yes, you know what's coming.
Damond :I mean, all of them are coming for me. Trust me, the trash talking has been all week long with this. So they said we gotta come up with a bet in Kansas City. Now I heard that you know they got this overrated barbecue up there and you know we got these overrated crab cakes here.
TJ:Oh, okay.
Damond :Okay, well done. So maybe we could do some food or a at the loser. Whoever loses the game, you have to win this jersey. You know something like that.
TJ:That sounds like a great idea. That's a great idea.
Damond :You know. So I'm just saying we gonna make it fun, but it's been purple week all week. But the best part about all of this is they've been giving Taylor Swift the business all week long. Okay, some of these memes where they got her in Baltimore, boy, woo, man, man, it's bad. It's bad. You know what's up? It's really bad. It's really bad. And you're about to come into the bank and expect that when you come into the bank, all bets are off when you come into the bank, because we coming for you, we waiting for you, and I saw that fired up speech that my homes gave in the locker room. By all means, by all means, here we go. Look, here we go, here we go.
TJ:I knew it was coming.
Damond :I knew it was coming.
TJ:I knew it was coming. I told you it was a matter of time, man.
Damond :It's just a matter of time. Listen, and that's what you do. You rep your teams in the end. Listen, can't knock them. They are the Super Bowl champs. They are the Super Bowl champs and, like Tony Romo say, like Rick Flair say, to beat a man you gotta beat the man. It's the irresistible force meeting the inmovable object. The inmovable object is Kansas City, the irresistible force is Baltimore. And we coming, yeah, so I mean to host, I mean to be in six, six AFC championship games. It's a feat. But you know something Like I said, like I was saying before we came on to the air, you know we got a great endorsement by the Wayne and Rock Johnson, who says that he thinks Baltimore is gonna knock them off.
Damond :So people are seeing that it's something special with the Baltimore Ravens, and I even see what's special with the Baltimore Ravens, because we haven't seen a team like this in a long time. But and I'm gonna say it, and I've been saying this, this is the best offense we have ever had in Baltimore, the best that we've ever. Now people might want to debate me. Well, what about Flacco? What did? Okay was Flacco consistent.
TJ:What about Flacco?
Damond :Yeah, was Flacco consistent? Was he consistent? No, lamar had his up and down through the five seasons, but guess what? He was consistent. Consistent Other than the two years he was hurt. Yeah, other than the two years he was hurt. You know, he's been consistent and he's the only quarterback who had all that damn money and has been on fire. You paid me. Now I'm gonna show you what I'm gonna do. Because you paid me, you gave me my money. I'm about to go ahead and wear this up, that's right. How about those Ravens, baby? That's what I'm talking about.
TJ:And I had to think about this too. Here's another thing too outside of Mahomes, I think he might have like would you say that and this is not to knock what the Ravens have at Y receiver or tight end but there's an argument to be made that Lamar Jackson in that offense is striving without a top 10 receiver, without a I mean, this is without Andrews now. So this is an offense that's striving without a top 10 Y receiver, that's striving without a top five tight end and an offensive line where just at this point last year we were questioning whether or not it was able to hold up because year after year it had none of the injuries to worry about.
Damond :Right.
TJ:So I have to question out of all the offenses that are left, is this the least talented? I have to honestly ask that question, and if the answer is yes, then that would heighten how great this offense has been this year. If the answer is yes, then that heightens that case.
Damond :Okay, let me jump on that with you. Let me jump on that with you. Okay, let's go back to Santa Clara. 40 Niners versus the Ravens. Look at the better receivers that the 40 Niners have.
TJ:Yeah.
Damond :Right, you can say they have better receivers. Right, we have a rookie rival receiver, zayf Lauer. Right, just busting it out. Remember, andrews is out, so it's likely to send there. Right, they got who Kittle over there, right? So if you matching it up that way, then you can say that I see what your point is with that.
TJ:That's what I'm saying. I'm just talking about offenses, by the way, I'm just talking about offense.
Damond :I can see what you're saying. Right, because, remember, they got D-Bow over there too, right? You know, we got Agalore. Right, we got Odell. And Odell's not in his prime, he's on the down slope of his career. So simple fact that I get your point of what you're saying. Because simple fact that if you look at what the Ravens has versus what some other teams have, okay, let's go to the Rams game and the Rams receivers, you could say, are much higher than what we got and we still beat them. And we still beat them. Yeah, and we still beat them. So I get your point. I get what you're saying on that one.
TJ:Yeah, because I'm bringing that up because so many times we've been talking about over the last what five seasons or so, and I think it has so much to do with how Kansas City was constructed, with Tyree, kill, kelsey, whoever you want at Running Back Mahomes, with that being the way that they constructed offense.
TJ:We always thought that you need to have a practical super team on offense in order for the team to work. Well, baltimore is showing you that if you just have a dominant quarterback, you can have an interchangeable Running Back group, you can have an interchangeable wide receiver group, you can have a turn style offensive line and still get to this far in the season. So that's why I'm bringing that up, because it's like, with the Ravens getting this far, you would actually think if you didn't look at, you know, the blowout wins, if you didn't pay attention to any of that stuff and you just looked at how their roster was built and was constructed at the beginning of the year, you would have thought, you know, maybe top 15 passing offense, you know they're gonna be a top 10 in rushing, but yeah, top 15 passing, no, you're a top 10 in both.
Damond :Yep, but hey, look what Herb just said the Ravens have a better offensive scheme. Yeah, and you have to understand that, because some of these defenses like how are we gonna stop this, how are we gonna stop this? But that's more so.
TJ:Lamar, but that's more so, lamar, though. Yeah, that's just how great Lamar is, to where you can't. Like we've been saying all year, you can't practice that, there's no way you can. You can't duplicate that, not in practice, down to scout team, none of that. You can't, you can't. So that's just awful, lamar Jackson.
TJ:Now the point that I would bring up is do we still have the same conversation that there's a different quarterback at the helm? I don't know, I don't know. Okay, right, but I think the reason why we ask those questions when it comes to this Ravens offense is solely because of how multi-dimensional Lamar is and because you know he can run it and he could throw it, and it's not even just those two things, it's how he's throwing the football, it's when he's running the football. That makes it so dangerous. That's what makes the scheme as strong as it is, because of how multi-dimensional Lamar is. Now Lamar was just a, you know, a Michael Vick, where he was just running around. Now it's about it.
TJ:The offensive scheme would probably be. It would still be solid, but there'll be something missing. What makes it dangerous is the fact that he's able to not only run this thing, but he times his runs and then on top of that he's able to throw in the pocket side arms, throwing it at this angle, that angle with that route and this route throwing it, throwing darts in coverage. That's dangerous, yes, so you know. So when you look at it like that, it's like okay, is it the scheme or is it Lamar? Is it the scheme or is it Lamar? In my personal opinion, if I had to pick one or the other, I would say it's Lamar, but I do understand that it is both and that's why we see why both are coinciding so well this year.
Damond :Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And you know, like I said, it's no knock against getting the city because, again, data champs.
TJ:No.
Damond :Whatever, but right now we got the better team and we're hitting on all three sides of the ball. We have the better team and it's gonna show. And I honestly believe what Herb said, that I think this is gonna be a blowout. I do Again, I'm not counting my homes out, I'm not, but I just think that defense is gonna slow my homes down and when they slow the game down, that game's over. That game is over. When the defense slows them down, the game's over. And if they, and especially if they, make them one dimensional and slow Pacheco down, they slow Pacheco down, that game is over, because that plays into the Ravens favor. They want you to pass, because we're gonna be sitting back there waiting for him. And is Herb score 48-28?
TJ:I get it, I get it. Actually, I'll change my score right now. I know I said it would be high, scoring 34-31. Give me 28-24. Okay, give me 28-24. I think that's a little bit more feasible. It's actually kind of similar to the score they had the last time they played against one another. So, I think that sounds legitimate for it to be a repeat 28-24, baltimore Okay okay, Because I gotta at least give Kansas City 21 points at least. Absolutely.
Damond :You're not gonna you're really not gonna shut down my home. He's gonna find a way. You're not gonna shut him down. I gotta at least give him 21. I'm at least give him 21 because if you look at what they've been doing over the season, that's all they've really been averaging. It's like 21-24 points and then all of a sudden they just stagnant. They can't get past that. You know what happened up in Buffalo. Okay, them two know each other so well, so it was just bound to happen. But, like I said, can't pay for your kicker any way. Around here Anybody need some kickers. I'm just saying Y'all better go get some better kickers around here.
TJ:Right.
Damond :Good Packers, you know missing kicks. I'm just saying y'all need some kickers around here, but it's gonna be rockin' and rollin' Sunday in the bank, Rockin' and rollin'. That place is gonna be on fire, that town is gonna be on fire, I guarantee you. When that game is over, when that game is over and I agree with this two herb too I think Detroit's gonna beat the 49ers. So I honestly believe that. Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, Telling God, get a chicken box and a jumbo half and half before we.
TJ:Hey, by the way, you will not be disappointed now. You will not be disappointed. I'll tell you that that half and half will have you some kind of good.
Damond :She be flying down here a lot. Hey, I gotta go here.
TJ:Yeah, seriously.
Damond :These memes, oh, we got been seeing with Taylor Swift. They even had a picture of her on Park Heights and Belvedere.
TJ:Oh my God, I saw that too.
Damond :I said what here we go.
TJ:Y'all have something else, man.
Damond :Man, we been wearing her out. They got her at my dorm in mall. They got her in front of the chicken, fried chicken and fish plates. Oh man, they got her all over the place. Wow, oh my.
TJ:God.
Damond :If someone still had a picture of Murphy Holmes and Lexington Terrace and they put a picture in front of that, I would fall out. Oh, Tay, Tay will lose her mind after that chicken box. Yes, he will.
TJ:Because I'm pretty sure we all have at this point if we're doing it right. Okay.
Damond :Oh, my goodness, all right, so I guess I gotta jump over to the lines. And Frisco, now Tebow, shoulder injury 50-50. That's a big, big injury, that's a big, big, and if he does not play, if he does not play, that's gonna be a problem.
TJ:I agree.
Damond :That's gonna be a problem and I think Detroit is just too on fire right now to be stopped. I mean, look at him and just looking back at the game and I'm looking at, okay, baker threw these two interceptions I was like, yeah, that's what it is, it's always an interception that will mess you up. But on the last possession of the drive and you go down, you throw an interception and that hot city of Detroit and Detroit was like, okay, you school, we gonna go back down to Villain School, jerick Off.
Damond :They, like you said I look back at it, they had some pressure on him, but not enough because, he was firing that ball off and I said, okay, they find a way to protect him, to get that ball off, and he's learning from all his past mistakes. And now he's about to go into Santa Clara. And here's the thing, and I've been saying this, I've been saying this the 49ers don't like to blitz. And if you rushing them for and they can keep him to wait, get that ball off. He gonna pick 49ers apart.
Dave :He gonna pick them apart.
Damond :He's gonna pick them apart Because, like I said, chase was getting cooked in that green big game. No show Right.
Dave :No show, no show whatsoever.
Damond :It was Bolsa getting through Bolsa like okay, but Bolsa can be on both sides of the line. So I'm just saying I think Detroit is gonna upset the 49ers 49ers. Now all the 49ers fans would disagree with me, you know. They said, oh, it's our time, we going to the Super Bowl this and that. Even if you do the way that offense looked against Green Bay, y'all ain't gonna win that game. They really look like they just took that two weeks off. That's what that really looks like. They was just, they was rusty, they was nostalgic and Brock Purdy just wasn't throwing it, but it was just showing me. I said they're not invincible. They are beatable. O'neill's are very beatable. Yeah, they are.
TJ:And that's I'm doing it again. For those y'all that are catching with the theme of this, I'm gonna give you a case for why either team can win this game. Before I make my pick here, I'll start with the 49ers. I know we're crapping on them, but Christian McCaffrey is still on that team. Christian McCaffrey still had almost 100 yards, he had 98, and he had two touchdowns. Okay, he is still about as dangerous as dangerous can get in terms of being able to catch out the backfield and be able to run it. So you have that element. Offensively. Now, do I think that there will be more touches out of Iuk Kettle, jawan Jennings and the rest of that passing crew with Debo up in the air? Absolutely so I would factor that in. Also, and the defense did come up with two interceptions. Now, granted, one of them had no business being an interception, but we already discussed about that, but it still happened anyways. We can't take that away. Two interceptions is two interceptions, no matter how you spin it all right. That's the 49ers case.
TJ:For me, outside of those things, nothing they did was great. Brock Purdy did not play great. You cannot throw the ball as many times as he did. You cannot have the passer-aid that he did. He only had an 86 pass rating. So he was very inefficient and outside of that last drive where he actually started to play how he was, all year long he was struggling, he was struggling and it was honestly kind of concerning to watch some of those throws that he was making, how uncomfortable he was. He did not like the pressure, and that's another thing with Purdy, him and pressure are not belonging in the same sentence right now.
Damond :Right now.
TJ:Now, granted, I get it, it was raining, it was pouring, I get all of that. But to struggle that way and then see Jordan Love on the opposite side, despite his two interceptions, to throw the ball around the way that he did, it's like come on, man, come on, what are we doing here? So I would have to raise the eyebrow with that, with Sam Frantz.
Damond :And Jordan Love made it look easy.
TJ:Easy, he did.
Damond :He made it look easy.
TJ:He did, and he did it time and time again, which makes the case even worse. Then you got Detroit, where Jameer Gibbs, my baby Alvin Kamara he's not my fantasy MVP for my team, of course, but he's definitely up there. He's definitely in the running 74 yards in a touchdown, that guy, you can't really I don't know what it is.
Damond :Give me one second. Give me one second. I got a special guest that's popped in here and I'm glad he made it. Hold on, let me bring him on, george.
Dave :Hello, dave, thank you so much for going on.
Damond :I'm gonna give Dave a shout out. He's from the Dave and Doc podcast and we actually got talking. He's a big 49ers fan. I'm a big Ravens fan. We said he probably couldn't make it. I'm glad he did make it on. So thank you and welcome to DK3 podcast. How are you?
Dave :Yeah, I'm doing great guys. Good to be on. Sorry you're a Ravens fan, sorry you're an Eagles fan. I'm sorry about both. Maybe I can convert you both tonight. I doubt it, but.
TJ:Hey, you know what?
Dave :You and.
TJ:I haven't worried about that. Let's not even I wouldn't take the banner down, but it was a hard time putting it back up.
Dave :No, I get it. No, I get it completely.
TJ:Yeah, absolutely.
Dave :Totally get it.
Damond :Hey, Dave, listen, we was just going over the 49ers and some things we saw in that Green Bay game, Sure, and like I said what we thought, and this is what I thought, and that they just didn't look good after the two week break, after the rest period, they just looked rusty. They looked at really liking the stag and they was just having some problems. They wasn't really clicking and that's what we was just talking about. But y'all gonna have a hard time with Detroit coming in there. I mean Detroit's on fire right now and they got that whole city behind them and they just got a lot of momentum and especially with Debo being hurt, that's gonna be an issue and it's 50-50. He's saying I was looking at the reports today. They're saying he's like real sore. It's probably gonna be a game time decision. But hey, I wanna hear your point on it, Come on hey, like I said, welcome in, I definitely wanna hear your point.
Dave :No well, I appreciate it and yeah, I do think there was some rust there for sure, and I think that I think it's funny, isn't it? Everybody tries to fight for that first round buy and all this, and you break your neck to get it, then you get it, and then you don't play football for 20 plus days and then all of a sudden, you're out there with a team like the Packers, who I mean of all the teams we could play, we play the Packers, who might have been the hottest team coming into the playoffs, and now we're gonna play the Lions, who are a close second, the hottest team coming into the playoffs. It's like great, we're the number one seed. At least we get to play them at home. But you know, a wet ball is Troy Aikman used to talk about. He hated throwing a wet ball, and you could go back and look at Aikman used to have some issues throwing a wet ball too, and I think Perti does as well. I can't throw a ball dry or wet, so you know it doesn't matter. But I think he had a hard time. I mean he started with a glove. There was that one play where he actually put the ball in his left hand and took his hand around his back and wiped his hand off and wiped the ball. Yeah, I mean, dude, you gotta be. I mean your offensive line better be on if you got time to do that. But you know, I think what mattered in that game was the defense stepped up and got into a rhythm in the fourth quarter and the offense did too, and when it mattered, I mean, he made some great throws down the stretch. But yeah, the whole team looked a little off to me.
Dave :And then Debo I gotta think he's not 50-50. I think he's probably more like 70-30, because there wasn't a break in the shoulder to keep him out of a conference championship game. I mean, even if he had another hairline fracture, he might still try to play and just say it's fine, guys, I promise, but I think he's gonna play. But there are different offense without him too. So wet ball, hot team 20 plus days off and then the best player on your team probably is out really early. Yeah, I think all that attributed to that.
Dave :And now we saw what the Lions did, you know, against the Rams, and the right side of the 49ers line is a little suspect at times. So I'm worried about the pass rush it's, I don't know this is. I've been a fan since I was probably four years old, so I've watched the 49ers win every Super Bowl they've won. I've seen all the ones they've been in. But Right, right, we don't know about those last two. But yeah, I'm excited about the game.
Dave :I'm always a little worried and, to be perfectly honest with you, if we play the Ravens again, I don't know if there's a team better than the Ravens right now, and I may have to throw up after I say that, but I mean, I just think they just seem like the best team in football. They're really unpredictable, like you can't. Just you know what are you gonna do? You're gonna do, are you gonna line up in zone across the board? You're gonna line up in man? It doesn't really matter, because then Lamar Jackson can just torture.
Dave :So I, that is a very tough team to play and I really thought going into the season, if we could beat the Eagles then we'd probably have a good chance at the Ravens. Well, there's so much. I guess I'm not much of a prognosticator, because that didn't happen. But yeah, that's my feeling. I think we're the better team than Detroit. But I mean, what more motivation can Detroit want, right? I mean you got the win for your starting quarterback. They got kicked out of the city that the team you just played, and you're right. I mean the Lions are so hungry for a playoff win and then they get one and now they're in the conference championship. That's tough. It's gonna be loud at Levi Stadium on Sunday for sure, oh, absolutely Absolutely.
Damond :Because when y'all actually started coming back, that place was rocking in that range. I said, oh my goodness. I said, listen to that. And I said whoo, they fired up. And like I said, and, like me and TJ, we always talk about is it anybody higher kicker in this league? Can anyone higher kicker? It seems like nobody can kick. I mean, that's all you get paid to do is kick the ball.
Dave :Now the Ravens have the only kicker right. As far as I'm concerned, the Ravens have the only kicker in football.
Damond :So right and it makes it. I was like this makes no sense. I was like, especially in a Buffalo game, when he missed that kick, I was like, oh, he just missed that. I said it's game over, game over.
Dave :How terrible for Buffalo to write it goes wide right, I mean, I mean, I mean, if it went short or anything else, anything but wide right.
Damond :I mean wide right, yeah, and the fans up there crying they throw us snowballs. Now I had problems. That's what I was talking about in the last box games. Yeah, I said, look y'all unprofessional fans up there throwing these snowballs on the field. That's their plans. And then TJ I was sending him some reports. Apparently they cut the hot water off and the visitors are like oh oh, so petty, so petty man that's petty, that's pretty bad.
TJ:Hey, that's one of the more time I, and I loved it.
Dave :I loved it.
TJ:I love it. You know what, you know what? Because, just like you and I, just like the average Joe out there, it's one thing to lose. It's another thing when you lose again and again, and again and again to the same person over and over and over again.
Dave :That's true.
TJ:And then not only that, but y'all are losing in gut-wrenching fashion, especially the last two times in the playoffs. It's like at some point we got coming with something. Let's get in there psyche some way somehow. So out of all the things that they decided to come up with, they decided you know what, cut the water off, they ain't gonna stop, they ain't gonna stop. Go into that plane stinky you guys. Totally fine, it's cool. It's cool they haven't come up with something just to send them off Like you know what.
TJ:You know what? I'm tired of y'all. I don't want y'all here. Y'all beat us again, okay, and I can't stand it. I can't stand it. So pettiness on an all-time high for Baltimore. I love it personally. But going back to what you said about the 49ers my biggest concern that I have with San Fran and if it's not your concern, then I'm curious to know what your reason is, why this is a game where they allowed a 100-yard rusher this past Saturday, and when you're going against the Detroit team, who is capable of having not one but two running backs that can get over 100 yards rushing, depending on how the game is going. That raises the eyebrow to me, in my opinion. So I'm curious to know how do you feel like the front seven is going to fair in the running game, given how Jameer Gibbs played this past Sunday and David Montgomery too, having a game plan for the two of them?
TJ:having to allow another 100-yard rusher.
Dave :Yeah, no, it didn't look great at times and the footing was a problem, which was one thing. I mean you saw that with both teams throughout the game there was a little screen pass thrown out to the right and Ambrie Thomas was just there and just missed the guy and if you go back and look, his feet just kind of flew out from underneath him. But I think Eric Armstead it was great that he could start, but the Niners hadn't played in over 20 days, eric Armstead hadn't played in like 60. And I think it showed I really just think it showed that the middle of the line was just not nearly as good as it is. And again toward the, I guess probably in the middle of the third quarter to the fourth quarter, it looked so much better.
Dave :I know he did break off that one huge run, which was just that I got. No, I got no answer for that. That's just oops. You know I was supposed to tackle him but I don't know what happened there. But yeah, so I mean, I think that I think that not having Armstead there most of this time, I mean he hasn't been able to practice up until like the last eight or nine days. So I think, having him there. I'll put it this way had Armstead not played, it might have been worse, or the season, or I might have been trying to pull banners down off my wall too.
Dave :So yeah, most of these are nailed up so they're not coming down, but all this crap behind me. But yeah, I think it'll be fine. It's interesting because you know the 49ers, I think, have only lost to Jared Goff one time. So I think it's interesting because we kind of know how he plays and some of the things that he's a little suspect at times, throwing fade routes and kind of some deep crossers, which is things they like to throw. So you know, I don't know you.
Dave :Just these games like this, you know so many people get together and try to look at it on paper and how they come up with these numbers. You know the Niners are a seven point favorite and all this. It's like where do you come up with that? I mean, you can't. It doesn't account for all the little nuances in football. And I've coached football before too, and I can tell you I've lost to teams that I drive home shaking my head how did we lose to that team? You know, it's like they had three first downs and we still lost. Like how is it possible for us to have lost that game? We've lost, you know. So you know, football just happens that way.
Dave :I will say this, I think, and I think this is true, this is true of any team. I mean, the Niners can only play two more games. But I think this I think this is true of Kyle Shanahan offense If the Niners get an early lead on someone, I think that's kind of the end of it, I mean because it's really hard to stop that team once they get into rhythm. But Green Bay did a great job of keeping them out of rhythm. I think there were some elements and stuff involved there, but I think Green Bay is just a really good team. And that even makes me more upset because I was so ready for them not to be good for about, you know, 20 years or so.
TJ:But I'm just not a Green Bay fan. We did too. We did too because all season long I've been saying the same thing. I've been telling Patriots fans that are whining and crying about Mac Jones and them having a bad season. I've been saying the same thing to Packers fans that was struggling early Welcome to the rest of us. It don't feel too good, doesn't it?
Dave :Yeah, I.
TJ:Apparently, I'm already eating my words with Jordan Love, so great Thanks when the Niners who was the quarterback?
Dave :It was after Garcia, I forget who we started somebody.
TJ:Was it Smith? Was Alex Smith?
Dave :No, it was before Alex, it was like Tim Rete, oh, okay, so I mean one of those just I've tried to forget like Jim Druckenmiller, like that's a real name, oh my God. And you know I mean. So we had those years there and again I was complaining to a friend of mine and he said, okay, so you had Montana, then you had Steve Young and then you got Jeff Garcia, who's also was a great quarterback. He's like he said, I think you guys can just suck for about 20 years. I think it's okay. And you know, and low and behold, who sure did.
Damond :But hey, it's nothing worse than the Cowboys. Oh, I'm sorry.
TJ:Any Cowboys fans in there.
Damond :Yeah, I'm gonna throw some shots. Oh, no, listen.
Dave :It ain't worse than the Cowboys. Okay, there is nothing that gives me more pleasure than watching the Cowboys lose.
TJ:No, it just gives me so much pleasure, me too Ah.
Dave :It's just I just laugh and laugh and laugh. And I'm not a big ESPN fan or a Stephen A Smith fan, or I just can't listen to that junk anymore. But the only redeeming quality he has is his hatred to the Douse Cowboys, Because that's the only it's beautiful.
TJ:It is man. It is man. Listen, those Cowboys man, he made his way off of that.
Damond :They are. They are the worst, when I mean the worst, they were the worst. I don't know if I put them up there with the Steelers worst, but they're the worst.
TJ:Oh, no, no, they are.
Damond :They are Every year. They go into the Super Bowl Every year. We're gonna do this. Oh, we can't be stopped. This and that I said that press guy is your problem.
Damond :I said and Jerry Jones needs to get his hands off of stuff, cause they was like calling it for Bella Czech and I was like Bella Czech's ego and Jerry Jones ego is not going to mix. I said those two egos ain't gonna mix, cause Bill is gonna be like you're not gonna tell me what to do, I'm gonna run this my way and Jerry's gonna know you're gonna run this my way. No, that wouldn't have worked.
Dave :Well, they tried it with Jimmy Johnson right, I mean like they tried that experiment for like what was it five years or something, and got a couple of Super Bowls out of it and eventually it was just like yeah, we can't work together anymore. Like this is just you know, we've got the best team in football, but we can't work together anymore.
TJ:It's ridiculous Right? Ain't that crazy to say that since they departed, that life hasn't been the same for half a month.
Damond :Half life has not been the same.
Dave :No you know they won Super Bowl 30, you know, against the Steelers and thanks to Neil O'Donnell who apparently played for the Cowboys that night. But right, yeah, I mean just you know, hey, is anybody over there ready to catch this pass? I know you wear a different jersey, but you know so they beat the Steelers in Super Bowl 30 and then that's just been it. I mean that's just been it. And you know they had the Niners number for years in the regular season and the playoffs for years. And you know we broke through in the 94 season, beat them in the 95 NFC championship game and we went kind of back and forth with them again.
Dave :But just these last few years, like it's just been, I mean almost to the point where I kind of feel bad for them. I mean, in the division around last year, the whole last play of the game where you've got, you know, you've got Ezekiel Elliott snapping the ball and I'm like Fred Warner is on top of it. He's going to destroy him. I mean that's what is going to run over him. I don't know. I think they got a Mike McCarthy problem. I think they have a Dak Prescott problem and I think, I think Jerry Jones is probably the bigger of the three, to be honest, of course.
Damond :He's always been. Yeah, like I said, he always, and he always has his mouth in everything. So he goes talk to the press. Let your coaches do this. You're the owner, sit back and let your coaches do it. But he has his hands so much in that team, just like Dan Snyder. Yeah, and his hands so much in the command is because he's trying to be like his boy, jerry. Oh, it's got to be my way, this way, that way. And now you see what happened. He ain't in Washington, no more. No, he's gone.
Damond :No now, now that whole group has took over here and they're making changes. And you see, the first thing they did Riverboat Ron. You got to go. Yeah, right, yeah, got him out of here.
Dave :Well, it's funny. It's funny too because you think about franchises that have, you know, ownership, you know, like, like the Steelers and the Patriots, and how much better it's went for them. Then you look at the Raiders. You know who's been to the Davis family and you thought, you know, when Al Davis died things would change.
Dave :No, and I mean, even if Jerry Jones, you know, turns the, turns the Cowboys over to one of his son or whoever, you got to think it's probably going to be ran the same way until another family eventually purchases that, I mean I can't see that because it's just looked the same for the Raiders. I mean that's the cesspool the NFL and I mean the Raiders move into Vegas was, was the most appropriate move that I ever saw. When they announced that, I'm like how did this not happen 30 years ago? How did that not happen? But I mean just those franchises and I mean the Raiders have got a great roster Now. I do think they've got a good head coach now and I think he's won the locker room with that team and I think that I think if anybody's going to turn that around over the next couple of years, I think it's going to be him. But you just wonder if the family is just too involved in some of these franchises that you just that. They just can't succeed.
Damond :You know something, and I'm glad you brought that up, because even with, like you said, with the Steelers and the Patriots, if you notice especially, let's go to the Steelers how many head coaches they've had since that franchise has been in existence there you go, yep, there you go, three. And they don't believe in just switching people out. They say, hey, we're gonna stick with you, we believe in you, do what you need to do, what do you need from us. And it shows with that Even Bob Kraft has done that up in England. He's really not trying to change this coach out, but hey, I think it was just a mutual respect between him and Belichick. Say, hey, I think my time is up. I brought you six Super Bowls.
Dave :Hey, let me turn it over.
Damond :Right, I brought you six. Let me turn it over to someone else and see if they have that success. But all these other franchises out here. As soon as something goes, oh fire, you fired. Every now and then Mid-season fired.
Dave :And listen, and I don't know if there's any University of Tennessee fans out there I'm not one, but I do live in Knoxville, tennessee, and you talk about a fan base that just goes after coaches. I mean you haven't won a national championship in what three years? Give the guy a chance? I mean you got to coaches. At this point, unless you're just losing a ton of games, they just need five or 10 years. They just do. You got to build a program and it's hard to get kids to stay. And in the NFL it's even worse.
Dave :Because you mentioned the Steelers, ben Rottzelsberger, how many other teams would have taken him if he wanted to leave the Steelers, Like almost all of them, you know? I mean he would have been unemployed for three seconds and you know. But he wanted to stay because the coaching staff's been the same, you know, and he wants to stay with that team and they keep people together and when they have a bad egg, you know, like Antonio Brown or you know, they run them out of town and I think that that says a lot about that organization. I always said if I wasn't a Niners fan or if I hit my head one day and forgot, then I was going to pick a different team. I mean, the Steelers could definitely be a favorite team of mine just because of the way they operate, right, you know, I mean the Niners have been through like 37 coaches in the last 15 years or whatever. And you know Jim Tomasula, they had Mike Singletary. You know I'm surprised they didn't call me at some point in time, you know because they're like why not?
Dave :Sure, dave can do it. Yeah, run the ball that way, guys. But you know, I think it says a lot for a franchise to be able to keep coaches that long, and I think that's how you build dynasties, and the Patriots were just the latest team to do that. So, yeah, I think there's a lot to it.
TJ:Yeah, but this is the downside of why we don't see a whole lot of that these days is because of the patients, the lack of patients that the front office has. You're saying you know, you know, be able to keep the same staff year in and year out? Well, yeah, but I just paid this quarterback to be our franchise quarterback for the next 10 to 15 years.
TJ:His prime is now and if we don't get these pieces that we surrounded with him to a championship or to a Super Bowl, it's a bust. Now we're trying to figure out what do we need to do and, out of all the people that we're going to get rid of, unfortunately it won't be the franchise quarterback, it won't be the cornerstones, it will be the head coach, it will be the coordinator. So it does suck because you want longevity. No matter where you go, no matter what field of work that you're in, you won't have some sort of longevity there. The problem is what is the level of patience and what is the end goal? There are certain teams that have no problem. You know, hey, we're going to have a five to 10 year run with you because we don't have it right now. A team like Carolina, a team like Washington, where we have some pieces, but we don't have it all together to contend right now. So we'll take our time, we'll be patient.
TJ:The problem is, when you've got teams like that one, where you have a franchise quarterback, we paid you the money, we have cornerstones around him, we have a great roster all together, from top to bottom, and our goal is to win a Super Bowl not to just be at a Super Bowl, but to win it. And you come up short in a fashion to where it's like OK, are we patient enough to give you another try, or should we just run it back all over again and act like this so you're never a transpire? So you have cases like that, to where it's like, do we factor in what timeline are we in? That right there, right right there is in a Super Bowl window, whether we want to admit it or not. Sure, san Francisco's in a Super Bowl window, baltimore's in a Super Bowl window.
TJ:I personally believe, whether we want to admit it or not, I think Detroit is in a Super Bowl window. Ok, they may not have the pieces to win it all, but it doesn't mean that they're not in the conversation. They're definitely in the conversation with how they've constructed this team. Ok, kansas City, obviously in the Super Bowl window. So those organizations are in that timeline where it's like, if we don't win or if we lose in a fast into where we're not even respectable anymore, something got to change. And that's where it kind of gets tricky.
TJ:OK yeah, you had a great year, but how did it end? Or did you contribute to how the season ended? And should we just ignore when we have a head coach that is not really good at anything? Should we ignore the fact that we had an offensive coordinator that did nothing but screens? Do we ignore the defensive coordinator that couldn't draw up any place for the defense, leaving people wide open and not being able to tackle? I'm losing out of breath because there's so many lists of things that they couldn't do well, that caused for both coordinators to be fired and, honestly, the head coach should be fired too. But it's OK, but that's what I'm saying. It's not so much of we want them fired immediately, it's so much of where are we at in terms of as a franchise, in terms of our timeline, because I have to factor that too.
Dave :Do you think it's something?
TJ:we have to think about.
Dave :Yeah, I agree with that, I think. Do you think that it's what? Do you think the biggest pressure on organizations are? Do you think it's the fans or the media?
Damond :Oh, media, oh, I'm going to say the media, and then let me explain to you why I say the media, because, ok, it was, let's just talk about games. Ok, let's talk about if a team Excuse me, if a team and it's a strong team, and we'll go with Philly, right, first 10 games, wearing them out, right, warm up, completely right. But then when they started losing, who came down on them the most? The media. But what's going on up in Philly? What's going on this? You had just even a, you had Shannon, right, you had Skip Bayless. Oh, they coming down. What is going on in Philly? What's going on with this? What's going on with that? They beat them down and the players, believe it or not, is drinking the Kool-Aid with it? Sure, because, remember, it's on social media and these players are clapping back on some of the people what they're saying. So the media plays a lot in what they do and these players are like, ok, I'm sitting here and I'm listening to this, ok, yeah.
Damond :And getting everything together. They try to live up to a height of what they're saying. And if you, if you notice it, look at a lot of these players that's on social media that clap back. Ok, aj Brown, when they was talking about AJ Brown, what in this?
TJ:and yeah, uh, oh, he cut out.
Dave :It froze up a little bit there, yeah.
TJ:Um, but, but I, me, personally, I think it's the fans. Ok, and here's why Um, the, the fans, I know teams love to say the fans are going to do what they want. They're going to say what they want, but we're not going to worry about them because they're not in the building. Well, the media isn't either. But I will say that there is certain cases where the fans really do have a temperature on how things should be, because we're the ones that are the paying customers that watch these games. Right, we are the guys that that, uh, you know, we watch these players, we watch for it to see how well they're going to do, and we know that what they're capable of, we saw, like in Philly's case, we saw that they're capable of being a Super Bowl, uh, super Bowl contending team. We saw that. We saw that last year.
TJ:It's not like this is, you know, wishful thinking. This is something that they're capable of and we've seen it. So, as fans, when we watch the first, I know, for me, I'm a realistic Eagles fan. I'm not, I'm not one of those. You know, we're going to win every game. Um, I'm not, I'm not crazy like that. I'm one of those two, okay, so so when we're wrong, we're wrong.
TJ:And when we're when we're hot, we're hot. Okay, that's where I'm at, um, but even in that 10 game stretch where we were, we were picking up wins. I was like something's not right, something's not right. Now it's cooler when these games, but something's not right, yeah. And so then, when you had the tailspin, it became okay, not only something not right, but now it's apparent that something ain't right, cause now you got the fans that are at the stadium. They're recording, you know the, the, the players reactions to certain stuff. So my, my personal thing that carried me throughout the entire year which is why I think that's why I'm here, and what carried me throughout the entire year, which is why I thought that at least all of the coordinator had to be gone was if you saw there were multiple times where the camera was shot with with shoot on on, jalen hurts after a play was made and if it didn't go well, you saw his facial expression. Now, we all know Jalen's facial expression is usually the same.
Dave :Right.
TJ:But when there was, when there was a bad play being made, you would see the camera shot at him. He's just like I'm just doing what the play called.
Dave :It was something systemic there, and the reason I say that is because I mean, they were 10 and one and I'm watching the Niners every week, right, like I'm not. I'm not watching the Eagles unless they're playing the Niners and so, or unless they're, you know, not playing at the same time, or whatever. And so we we interviewed on our podcast a couple of weeks ago, uh, Rob Guerrera, uh, nicknamed stats, uh used to work for Mike and Mike in the morning he covers the 49ers, uh gold standard, uh, uh gold standard network there on, uh, youtube, check him out. But he said that just from like insider reports and things that he was hearing. When they were 10 and one, they were the most miserable 10 and one team. And and so you? So that it's? Do you think that the? You think Sirianni lost the locker room?
Damond :Do you think that?
Dave :you think that's exactly what it was. Cause it, absolutely Cause Sirianni looks like he's just upset, no matter what he just he doesn't look like a happy man, you know so.
TJ:Yeah, and so with Sirianni, it was the reason, and and one thing I'm not going to do is I'm not going to pinpoint which game I would say that that he lost the locker room. I'm not going to do that, um, but what I will say is you can tell on the body language of the players, when some of those losses came about, that there was no coming back from it. When we lost, when we lost to Dallas, when we lost to San Fran, those big time games where everybody's watching us and we put up the effort that we did it was like, yeah, the right is on the wall Now. We didn't know what what it was going to consist of, we didn't know how bad it was going to be, but we knew, they knew deep down, this, this, this, this is not our year. This is not our year. We were skating by with the wins that we did have, um, so we should be, we should be lucky for that.
TJ:But I think, with Sierra, I think the reason why I will say this, the reason why I feel like Sierra Yanni lost locker room, is because the fans, including myself, are saying the same thing that they're saying in their head Okay, you're not calling the offense, you're not calling the defense. What are you doing, like seriously?
Dave :like you know, I'm saying like, like, like everybody else is doing something.
TJ:Everybody else is having their expertise in something. What are you good at? What are you? What are you pride in yourself on? What got you hired? Because if you're telling me that you got hired off of motivation, I can sit up there and get somebody off the street to do that. I don't need you to. You know what.
TJ:I'm saying Like I can get big Dom to do that for us, like we don't need a head coach for you to do that. And so I think, as time came around and as the more losses came about when you had losses to teams like Arizona who had no business having the intention of winning, but they beat us when you have games like the Giants, where we just completely lay, lay an egg and don't show up, it's like, all right man, what's really going on here, cause they ain't up. We got the ball last year, was it?
Dave :was it? Was it Donovan McNabb's mom that used to do the chunky soup commercial?
Damond :Maybe, yeah, she was a pretty good motivator.
Dave :I mean, I think they should hire her. If she's still alive, I think they should hire her. Hey, hey, she motivated the hell out of me and I don't even eat that stuff. Okay, you know, I'm like. You know what? I could go for? Some chunky soup right now. Mrs McNabb, you know yeah.
TJ:So so again, that's what the conversation was and I think it's seeped into the players heads and I think the fans were getting louder and louder and and if you know anything about the Philadelphia market is, when the fans are starting to have a pulse on something, expect for it to only get louder and louder, depending on how bad it is. So you know, when we started seeing all the screenplays and and the, the, the read options and the lack of variety in the offense, when we saw that nobody could tackle on defense, when we saw that nobody can cover on defense, when we saw all those things, it was like all right, something got to change, cause I got a sworn last year. We were finding ourselves in the Super Bowl playing, playing, playing a tit for tat with Patrick Mahomes, and now we're doing this. What's going on? So I think that got into the players head and it lost it. I think at that point it was like Sirianne can't get that. Yeah, I think it.
Dave :I think it can definitely be both. I think it can be the fans in some markets. I agree with that, like you spent, like the New York market. Philadelphia market is probably that way too, but it's, it's one of the reasons, and if either of you guys have ever listened to my podcast, doc and I, when we start talking about ESPN, he just sits back and laughs because I go on for like 30 minutes of my hatred for ESPN. Here's a little, here's a little nugget on ESPN that I love to tell people and most people never caught this, but you can't really see it behind me, actually, my microphone is kind of blocking it. I've got like a Florida. I'm a Florida state fan too. I was a life, I was a lifelong Bobby Bowden fan. I loved Bobby great guy, great coach. And I've just been a Seminole's fan and happy we have Mike Morville now.
Dave :But years ago, when you know it was, we won the national championship and James got into a lot of trouble, right, a lot of stupid stuff. He was a kid, he was a kid and he was doing a stupid crap. And so ESPN's website right, total, clickbait, total clickbait. Right, right on the side, kind of in the middle, there is said Heisman Trophy winning quarterback arrested, and it had a picture of James Winston. He was still at Florida state at this point in time.
Dave :Right, this is second year. Second year starting there, I click on it and it was Marcus Mariota got a speeding ticket. That was the story. That was the story. And I'm like, are you, are you kidding me? And I listened to Stephen A Smith and I, and, and I was like and, and, and poor Rob Guerrera on our show a couple of weeks ago. I, I know he still has some friends like you know, mike Greenberg, and, and, and some folks that ESPN. So I'm like you don't have to answer this, rob, but listen, you know, I said what's going on at that network, because it's just a bunch of guys yelling at each other and I, and oftentimes they just contradict what they said, like 12 hours later.
Damond :Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Dave :And you listen to the media, and it's not just them, it's like Fox Sports one and like you mentioned Skip Bayless and you know, you know when he's got Michael Irvin, richard Sherman on there, and you know it's just a little way for some reason.
TJ:Yeah, for whatever it is.
Damond :It's because he made the song, so he made the song.
Dave :But yeah, and so then you've got Stephen A Smith and you know, and Dan Orlowski and all these guys and just it's just I can't watch it anymore. I had to stop years ago. I just like cut back because ESPN used to be cool. We used to be Chris Berman and Tom Jackson and and and and Sports Center was actually good when you, you know, when Rich Eisen was over there and Dan Patrick and Keith Olberman was there too, and I mean just they even brought guys from CNN over there that used to do the little CNN sports show and it was so good that you listen to that coverage now. And Brock Perry is a prime example. I mean everything that. Everything he does good is really not because of him, and everything he does bad is either just because he's terrible or he was being too aggressive. Two hours later, all the bad stuff was oh well, he was being aggressive. That's when he's at his best. It's like what?
Dave :It's the nexus of the universe. So I do think it can be the fans too, but oftentimes I do think it's the media just putting pressure and maybe the fans are getting fueled by the media too. But I, I just the media, and Lord knows I've been a part of it before and I never tried to do that to anybody. I was trying to just be as honest as I could be and it's why I always consider myself, like you said, a realistic fan. If we suck, we suck, and if I think we're going to lose, I just say I think we're probably not going to win this game. But you know, if Brock Perti wins the game, it won't be because of Brock Perti. Brock Perti could throw six touchdowns for 700 yards and it will not be because of him. It was, it'll be because of poor tackling.
TJ:Right. I mean, that's what it is Right.
Dave :And I mean the guy, the kid, can't do anything. I mean the kids want 24 years old, it's his second, it's his first full season, you know, second year in the NFL and second full season, first full season starting, yeah, and and I mean, you know, all he did last year was win. You know, and I don't know what else he can do, but the media just hates the guy and I'm I'm afraid that the media is going to put so much pressure on it that they start looking elsewhere too if they lose a couple of games, Because, you know, is it because of Brock Perti and I, I don't know I is he a system quarterback and all this stuff? And I'm like I don't know. His completion percentage is pretty good. He could be a system quarterback. If he brings another Lombardi home, I really don't care, Doesn't bother me in the least, right Right Now.
Damond :I got you, I got you. You know, y'all had your hashtag quest for six, we hashtag quest for three, so I get it. So you know the whole thing of you know, like I said, if, if we both make it to the dance, we got to have a bet. Oh, of course we got to have a bet. Of course, of course Definitely have to have a bet. And you're down in Tennessee. Yeah, what's your favorite food down there?
Dave :Let's see, Well, you know we. So I mean we, we, we like our. I mean anything fried, of course. Right, Because it's Tennessee.
Dave :So we like, we like our chicken, we like our wings, definitely like our wings. We like our ribs. Okay, you know. So we, we, we've got some good stuff here. I don't exactly know what cuisine here in Tennessee, because we're just kind of out in the middle of you know nowhere yeah, you know. So, yeah, we like our ribs and we like, we like our chicken. Got some really good wing places here and a couple of really good fried chicken places too. Big fan of that.
Damond :Okay, okay, well, no, we're known for seafood up here in Maryland, oh oh, listen, I'll be asking for yeah, I'll be asking for crab cakes.
Dave :Yeah, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt.
Damond :I'll be asked for crab cakes.
Dave :Yeah, crab cakes.
Damond :I got you, but I do I do.
Dave :I don't want to leave without talking about your, your picks that you made for the last weekend, though, because, come on, you caught it. You caught them all right, except for one game. One game you didn't call right, and that was an upset. You thought the Packers were going to beat the Niners and I said I was busy tonight with some work stuff, and I'm like no, I got to get on here. I got to ask him about that.
Dave :I got to ask him because I heard him he said Kansas City was going to be Buffalo. Hey, good call there. You know you had Detroit winning, you know and all that. I'm like, yeah, he called them all right, and I mean the Ravens and Texans, we knew how that was going to go, right. I mean that was a formality. They all showed up and shook hands at the coin toss. It was a close game then. I like that one. So the Niners and Packers what made you pick the Packers? Just interested.
Damond :The Packers. When I thought I said those boys were red hot coming in to San Francisco you know it's even with Baltimore. If you look at Baltimore they gave them the first half. They were really like stale and then, as the game going wrong, they picked up steam I said well, these teams taking them two weeks off, you're rusty a little bit. And when the Packers coming off, especially what they did, I said the Packers are red hot and they were just a field goal miss away and probably upset in the 49ers. Yeah, probably. But the thing of it, other than Jordan Love throwing across his body instead of throwing the ball out of bounds. Yeah, you know, they had the ball last and they could have marched down the field and won that game, but they were red hot. And if you look at what Jordan Love and the Packers have done, we can even go back to Thanksgiving. They went into Detroit and wore them out.
Damond :Yeah, they did, and most of the teams don't take the ball first. They take the ball first and say we're going to make a statement against you, I know, and march down the field, you know what the problem was, if Jordan Love had been a system quarterback, he wouldn't have thrown that interception.
Dave :Right Just throwing that out there.
TJ:Oh God, I knew that was coming too.
Damond :Them boys were red, red hot they were.
Dave :Absolutely.
Damond :They coming in there and I said, man, I think it's going to be upset. Yeah, I think it's going to be upset. But hey, the 49ers pulled it off and congratulations to the 49ers. Yeah, I don't mind eating crow or anything. I tell them off the top, I say I eat crow. So one of my episodes I don't know if you saw it I lost that last game with the Steelers. Steelers beat us in that last game. They beat all our backups. I wore a brown bag over my head for the whole show. Oh no, Because that was the bet that I would have to wear a brown bag.
Damond :Oh Lord I got that bag and I would keep that bag and I put it across the top Steelers suck.
TJ:And what made matters worse is I had nothing to do with the bet, but because the Eagles lost week 18 in the man that they did, I decided to join in with the Brown Bag.
Dave :There you go, I like it, I like it yeah.
TJ:So. So I didn't want him to be alone in his Brown Bag Odyssey, but mine was not as detailed as his was. Well, back on the episode there was holes everywhere. If I was critiquing my bag and I said, dang it, it's a bag, it's a brown bag.
Dave :It's a brown bag.
TJ:It's not supposed to be pretty. We probably we probably have to be rough.
Dave :We'd probably have a lot. We'd have a lot more viewers if we wore bags on our heads, I think. I think our subscriber count would go up.
Damond :It was rough that that that show, everybody was like, oh my God, you actually did it. I said I don't know my bets. No matter what the bet is, I won't honor my bet you have to.
Dave :It's just like with this Kansas.
Damond :City game. I have family up in Kansas City, yeah, and we all trying to figure out a bet now. But trust me, they're all on me, I'm on them. If Kelsey you still in here, she's a big Kansas City fan and we are all going at each other. But the memes they got going with Taylor Swift right now in Baltimore, oh my God. They have her in, like all the bad neighborhoods. She getting the chicken box, I have to wear a raven's jersey. They is on Taylor the whole time.
Dave :Do you guys remember the Denver Broncos game this year? They beat the chiefs at home.
TJ:Yes.
Dave :Yeah, and Travis Kelsey's walking off the field and they're playing shake it off and I'm like that is the funniest thing. Whoever's playing that music deserves a raise, because that took some guts to do it and it's hilarious.
Damond :So, yeah, right, unbelievable. That was awesome, unbelievable. But since I got you, we're going to get your pick on your game between the lines, what you think the score is going to be.
Dave :Right. So here's. So, as I have become a meteorologist in the past seven days, I look at the weather report out in San Francisco, and so the Bay area looks to be pretty dry this weekend. It's a dry field. I'm going to go on the assumption that Debo Samuel plays. I don't know if he'll be at 100%. I think it's fair. I think it's fair to say that he probably won't be, but I think that I think Debo plays and I can see this game being kind of tight in the beginning. I just think that it's Kyle Shanahan, steve Wilkes, these, I mean the team they know, they know Jared Goff, and I think it's. I think it's tight for a while. I think the Niners pull away. I'm going to say 27, 17 final. Okay, I think that's. I do think it will be close and I mean and I'll eat crow too, I'll be upset about it.
Damond :Well, tj thinks it's going to be close between us and the Ravens. I just think this might be a blowout. And then I'm not. I'm not. I'm not taking any away from my homes. I'm not taking any away from deep I mean Pacheco rice or Travis Kelsey. I'm not taking anything away from the guys. But what I've noticed with the Ravens, especially all season, when they slowed the game down, it's over for you and they completely just start slowing things down, just like, okay, we just going to beat you down. Now we're going to beat you down. And they got a defense to compliment the offense. And Baltimore has always been known for defense but we've never really been known for an offense. And before you came on, tj brought up this point also of hey, look at your top tier teams that has wide receivers, versus what Baltimore has and I got this point on that versus and I'm going to take the 49ers for that Y'all have some top notch receivers, y'all have a hell of a tight end.
Damond :Y'all have a hell of a running back. Y'all have a system and program out there versus with us. Mark Andrews is out, right, right. Who can we really say on our teams are number one receiver? Oh, that was passes prime, he's passed his prime. You have a rookie receiver, you have Algalore these are all veterans, that's been around. But who's a true number one receiver on the Baltimore Rape? We really don't have one. They just make that system work. Yeah, and what Tom Munkin has came in here and done he has really opened up the play ball versus what Greg Roman has been here and done and he's really has say, okay, lamar, you have the keys is to play, you work it out. And Lamar is not a running back, he's a quarterback, yeah, and he stands back, then he looks. If he don't see it, okay, I'm not looking to run, but if I have to I will. Yeah.
Dave :I, I, I mean, if I'll give you my pick on that game too, if you want, and I kind of see it, I see it. Here's what I think. I think, if this is a close game going into the third, I think the Ravens are in trouble because I think that once, once Kansas City gets rolling, they start finding ways to win. You get you. Let my homes hang around long enough. It's just trouble, and you know how I know. With six minutes left, we had a 10 point lead in.
TJ:Super Bowl 54.
Dave :You got it and that was all on Kyle Shanahan. It's like, dude, you got to get first downs and kill the clock. That's what you got to do here. I think it does have the potential to be a blowout. I really do. I think that they might start piling it on the Ravens if they get going.
Dave :It's Lamar in a big game and an NFC or AFC championship game, so it's interesting to see how it'll play out. But I think I think the Ravens are just I think they're, I think they're too fast. I think their speed on defense might be the difference in the game. I can see my homes throwing a couple of pick sixes in this, because he's not afraid to sling it. I mean, you know he's not a system quarterback, he'll swing it, so so I could actually see a pick six, a couple of interceptions, maybe even a pick six. I'm going to go Baltimore. I'm going to go Baltimore and not a high scoring game 24 to 10 and not a high and not a high score game, cause the weather is still probably going to be cold.
Dave :I don't think it's going to be as cold as it as it has been, but you know, I don't know what the weather is going to be, but yeah, I could see a 24 to 10 game that look closer at the end. That it, that it maybe, that it, you know, really was maybe a late touchdown from the chiefs or something. But you can't let them hang around.
Damond :I have, I have learned that yeah, no, no, you can't. I'm giving them 21 because they're at least going to get probably 21 points.
Dave :I mean it's very, I mean it's a good offense. You know and you get, you know Taylor Swift out there catching passes. So anything, anything can happen.
Damond :So when Taylor shows up in Baltimore, they're going to get her a nice, warm reception.
Dave :Oh, you know they will.
Damond :Nice warm reception when she gets here.
Dave :That is, that is worth the price of admission there, for sure.
Damond :Yes, it is. Yes, it is, but TJ came up with this little hashtag. I'll let him explain it.
TJ:Oh, oh man, I'll let you explain it.
TJ:Hey, hey, hey, you know you're very new onto the show. I have, I have a um, I have an inspired hashtag that wasn't created by myself, I will not create, I will not take credit for this, I will not get copyrighted for this. I did not start this myself, okay, but there was a certain someone who actually just laid in the last chat on the show so far, and Mr Big Big uh, triple B's Marv is what I call him Triple B's Marv, uh, big Brown Bag Marv. Okay, he is the only person on this show that's gotten a brown bag from me.
TJ:Okay, now he gets that brown bag because on one of our shows, he decided it was a great idea to mention that every home game that Baltimore had, the opposing team's quarterback got hurt at some point in time during the game. So it made me think, huh, he's right, he's very right, yeah. So I said you know what? I think I know what's going on here and we're going to have a conversation about this in the off season because there will be a hashtag bounty gate at the bank going on at M&T Bank Stadium. I've noticed that every single time there is a game held at M&T Bank Stadium, someone gets hurt and it's not a Baltimore region. It never has been Okay.
Dave :You might be onto something here, okay.
Damond :Don't be sipping this cool thing.
TJ:I got a list now. I got a list now. Bear with me, I got a list.
TJ:Okay, last week it was one of their past rushers I believe it was Charles Harris, I believe on the Texans. He was doing pretty well all year. He somehow some way gets hurt. Okay, number one the week before that. Okay, tj Watt going to get a bunch of backups? Yeah, they didn't purposely hurt them. None of these are intentional, by the way. I want to make that very clear, but it happened. They got hurt. Okay, tj Watt got hurt in Baltimore. Okay, right, there's two of them. There's the song? Okay, there is. I think I'm missing out on a couple, but it's okay, there are no names. Anyways, it's fine, it's fine. Truth of the matter is is that it's hashtag bounty gate at the bank? I'm going to make this a movement, because it is not a moment, it is a movement. Hashtag bounty gate at the bank.
TJ:I wish you would understand how real it is.
Dave :Because people use it. Now, can you do a? Can you do like a sub hashtag and put like hashtag Sean Payton Cause, maybe, cause, maybe, cause. Maybe he has something to do with it, right?
TJ:I might, I might, I might, I might, I might have to give him a shout. I might, I might have to, but but I've noticed that. And now every single game, you know, we all but see it plays into their favorite. That's how I know it's legitimate. I'm not just thinking of stuff out of thin air. You know. We think of Baltimore as this physical team. You know, hit you in the mouth, we're going to hurt you. You know all this stuff that the Saints were saying back in 2011,. You know all this good fun stuff. It's true, you're saying the same thing, all right, the only difference is ain't nobody catching up on it, but I am, I am.
Dave :I think you're definitely on to something. I think I think Brett Barve would agree with you. I think I think Sean Payton's involved.
TJ:I'm just saying look, look, look, rokron Smith, recent presser. After the game he said it don't matter who it is, it could be my sister, it could be my sister, it could be whoever we going, we going to knock them out, and we going to knock them out often, and that's as soon as I heard that, I said oh really, knock them out huh, knock them out.
Dave :Now we know.
TJ:Oh, okay, so keep a close eye on that.
Dave :I like it.
TJ:And I can't be paying me to sit game on this Sunday.
Dave :I like it.
TJ:And if somebody finds a way to get hurt shockingly, you know why? Because you all know it will be.
Dave :I will yeah.
TJ:Hashtag Bounty Gate at the Bay you know it, you going to have Dave.
Damond :send me all kinds of messages, man.
Dave :Yeah, yeah, now I know. Yeah, I think this is a movement I can get behind. I think this is a movement I can get behind.
TJ:Thank you, I'm fighting protestants across all the world. They know it, they know it, they know it, and you know what's sad. You know what's sad. At first, this man right here wanted to deny said statement. You wanted to deny it. So bad. And now, over the past couple of weeks, you all know, I've been hearing. You know, when y'all show up here in Baltimore, it's hashtag Bounty Gate at the Bay. See, he's falling to the trap too. He knows, he knows.
Damond :OK, it's like when you hear a song over and over again, right, and it just sticks into your head. That's all that happened.
Dave :It was a catchy tune. I got you, I got you.
TJ:I'm glad it is. Try to act like you, don't believe it?
Dave :through. It's like a Taylor Swift song. Right, you did. Yeah, at first it's like that's ridiculous, and then you're like shake it up, shake it up. So now I get it, I got you, I got you, thank you.
TJ:It was a catchy tune. It's not a moment, ladies and gentlemen, it's a movement.
Dave :It is. It's definitely a movement, definitely a movement.
TJ:Something that everybody's to get behind, because every single game, you see, what makes it worse is that you very rarely see a Raven get hurt in these games. That's true. Very rarely, Very rarely. The last person that got hurt in Baltimore. You want to know who? It was? Marlon Humphrey. You want to know who played this past weekend? Marlon Humphrey.
Dave :He didn't play. He didn't play.
TJ:No, you know who's going to play this weekend, marlon Humphrey, you want to know why? Because when it comes to Baltimore and them playing at the bank, it's hashtag bounding gate at the bank and God forbid if it applies to them, because it won't, it will apply to everybody else but them. I got proof. I got proof now. I got proof now.
Dave :He's calling it. My home's going to make it to the whole game. Better bubble wrapping now, right now. Better bubble wrapping now.
TJ:Kelsey, Kelsey, getting a little bit up there in age man, you might want to put some extra ice on them socks.
Dave :Kelsey should be retired anyway, like Taylor's, worth like a billion dollars. What the hell is he doing? Say, come on.
Damond :All the commercials they make. The State Farm endorsement him and my homes. I mean my home's just young, but my home they're set for life. They're set for life. I mean, they got three rings in that family, two from Travis, one from Jason.
TJ:Oh my god.
Damond :And they got a podcast.
Dave :Yeah, I mean just think if guys were making that kind of money 25, 30 years ago. Right, like it's like. I can go out there on Sunday and continue to get hit by Ronnie lot, or I can just cash it in and forget about it and join the SBN, because then I don't have to know anything if I work for a SBN anyway, so I can have zero talent. As long as I talk really loud, I can be on the SBN.
Damond :Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I can out talk you. Yeah Right, that's it, that's all it is. Oh my goodness.
TJ:I have enjoyed this you know it now, dave. You know it now. It's not a moment, it's a movement.
Dave :No, I got you. No, I'm on board. You had me. Oh my goodness. You had me from the get go. You had me from the get go.
Damond :Oh my goodness, see, I'm the villain in this right.
Dave :Yes, yes, it's completely your fault. It's completely your fault.
TJ:Yes, it's completely your fault Completely. And you know what? The fact that you finally understand how real it is and how true it is makes it all so much better.
Dave :Right, so much better, I agree, oh yeah, oh yeah. What other presents you admit it is going to be?
Damond :a cold day. Sunday is going to be a cold day for two teams, that's all.
Dave :It is Sunday is going to be a cold day for two teams. See all the balloons going on. Let's see it let's see the balloons. Let's see it.
TJ:Somebody's getting paid. Somebody's getting paid at the bank. I knew it. I knew it. Maybe it's Roquan, maybe it's Kyle Hamilton. I don't know how much the price is, but it's from some of the offices.
Dave :Some cash is exchanged hands. Oh yeah, listen, listen.
Damond :Roquan scares me like Ray Lewis man, they're two different guys. You see how nice and respectable the guy is on camera.
Dave :But when you get on the field he's a totally different person.
Damond :It's just like well, Ray Lewis. Ray Lewis had talked to you man on the field. He looked like he'll just drive through you. I don't want even one of these guys to hit me. No, no, no, no.
TJ:He knows.
Dave :He knows.
TJ:And Dave, you know too.
Dave :So I'm with you. I'm with you and you spread the word wherever you go. I will.
TJ:No, it's not a moment it is a movement 100%.
Dave :I'll definitely spread the word.
Damond :See, he's going to tell Doc. He's going to tell Doc all about this experience. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, the Doc is going to be like wait what? Yeah, oh yeah, I'm going to have to get both of them on here.
Dave :Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We both need to be here to experience this.
Damond :Yeah, absolutely, but yeah. But next Tuesday we're going to know who's going to Superbowl.
Dave :Yeah, we will. Yeah, well, Sunday, sunday, well, now yeah.
Damond :We're going to be here and we're going to know who's going to Superbowl. If it's us, we will take a bet. We'll definitely take a bet, absolutely, 100%, definitely. You know, not like that overrated barbecue up in Kansas City, I'm just like nah.
Dave :Oh boy, they can keep it.
TJ:Remember you might have to eat that one day, I know. I know.
Damond :I know, I know Kelsey must not be in here because that's why I said so she can call me. I'm picking all these cheese fans, but I'm going to wind everything down. Do you have any brown bags this week? Because I don't have any. I don't have any. You know I'm still harping on the Buffalo fans, but now I'm going to harp on. But, matter of fact, let me get Buffalo management a brown bag. And here's the reason why you cut the hot water off on the chiefs.
TJ:Really, that's probably one of the best things it could do. Everybody grieves differently. Don't do Buffalo like that. We can't win a Super Bowl, we can't get out of Mahomes way. We all grieve differently. Let them grieve with turning the world.
Damond :Oh no, I'm not letting them grieve, I'm giving Buffalo the business. Buffalo, just go get it from me till the end of the season After the.
TJ:Super Bowl.
Damond :I'm going to still give them the business. You throwing snowballs during the game. You throwing snowballs after the play, after the game over, you're cutting the hot water off. What's next? They bust Jack the bus. They didn't get to the airport.
TJ:Hey there's only but so much you can do, because there's not going to be a whole lot moving when you're not in the playoffs anymore. No, not at all.
Damond :I'm surprised they ain't right up there. Oh, I forgot one thing. Oh yeah, they were fighting in the stands too.
Dave :Yeah, yeah, that too, that too.
Damond :That was bad. Yeah, that was bad.
TJ:I told them. I said I don't have very many brown bags. I don't. I think everybody, even in the teams that lost, they played the best football they possibly could given us the situation. So I mean I don't have any. I swear I don't. If you could find somebody sore, I just don't got any, can I give one out?
Dave :Have I earned the right to give a brown bag out? Yes, absolutely, absolutely OK, because I'd like to give a brown bag to all the staff on ESPN all of them.
TJ:Oh man.
Dave :All of them, oh man. And not only am I giving one, I would suggest they just wear one from now on.
TJ:I think it would make it a lot better be easier to watch.
Dave :I might start tuning back in again. I don't know. I don't know. Sounds like Steve and A Smith, but I can't see him. I don't know.
Damond :Right, we think that's him, not sure, I am all for it. These brown bags has no limit. I gave the whole state of Colorado one when the Colorado Buffaloes lost and when Denver got your lack by Miami, oh, that was bad, oh, that was bad.
Dave :All on the same weekend I gave the whole state of Colorado.
Damond :And what was funny, I was up in Denver Airport because I was catching a flight back Not one person in the airport was wearing any Broncos, anything, anything Not.
Dave :Broncos nothing.
Damond :And that's a huge airport and I was walking around looking for anybody with a Bronco. Matter, I didn't even see the merchandise in the airport.
TJ:Wow, that's not good.
Dave :They just turned the shelf around and it's just skiing apparel into the wall.
Damond :I didn't see it. I was like, wow, I was like really, I said I can't find one Denver fan up here, not one. I saw one guy wearing a Colorado Buffalo shirt and I said, ok, I can respect that, but it was no Broncos, none, none. And I travel a lot, I travel a lot. Wow, and I was. I was just up in Minnesota and they was wrapping their vikings up there, but, god darn, it was cold up there.
Dave :No, I bet. No, I bet.
Damond :Oh yeah, Negative 10 when I got there. Negative 20 when I left. I shouldn't be legal.
Dave :It shouldn't be legal I don't think that thermometer should even register that.
TJ:It's like it's just zero.
Dave :Let's not even talk about it, it's just zero. You know just zero, no so.
Damond :But, dave, I really appreciate you coming on. We got to do this again.
Dave :We definitely got this. Oh, absolutely, I was happy to come on.
Damond :Yeah, absolutely yeah and definitely. I definitely want to get with you and Doc, and you know I want to get on your show too, even though y'all both 49ers fans not holding it against you, just like you hold against me and Ravens fans.
Dave :He's a Niners fan via osmosis I don't even think he was, and just I think it's. Just he's looked at this crap for so long that it's just like absorbed into his mind. Now I think he just I think I've brainwashed him much like I did my kids. Same, same philosophy, same thing, same thing. They just didn't have a choice from birth, you know so.
Damond :The truth comes out. Yeah, you see it. Enough is here this little bit of messages I got you.
Dave :Yeah, red and gold man it's messes with your rods and cones and stuff, I don't know. It's just going to start starts just kind of absorbing into your skin eventually.
TJ:So all right, kiddos All right, everyone turn 18. You can make choices for yourself. It's totally fine.
Dave :Yeah, unless unless you live here, that's yeah, you're right, absolutely.
Damond :Let's you look at this, oh, Lord, but I'm going to tune out here. Hold on for me, dave, once I end this show.
Dave :Sure.
Damond :But yeah, I'm going to tune out. Thank you all for tuning in. I appreciate all your comments, appreciate everyone who come in and definitely Dave. He has his own podcast tuning into him. It's the Dave and Doc podcast. Dave and Doc podcast you can find him on YouTube. I've listened to him a couple of times. Guys are very fun. I'm glad they came on with me and we're going to be jumping on a lot and me and TJ we do all our trolling. Hey, I got one thing to say Hashtag bounty, gated the bank, dave. Hey, yeah.
Dave :That's it.
Damond :Oh, my goodness.