Ever feel like your team's playbook has been tossed out during the big game? Join me and special guest Dave from the Dave and Doc podcast as we dissect the latest NFL matchups, including the Ravens' baffling shift from their renowned ground game to a less successful aerial assault. We're not just armchair quarterbacks; we bring our passion for the Ravens and the 49ers to the table, offering a unique perspective on each team's strategies, star player performances, and the emotional rollercoaster that is watching your team in high-stakes situations.
Feel the tension as we break down the significance of Travis Kelce's antics on the field and whether they enhance or distract from the game we love. Dave and I get candid about our admiration and frustrations with our teams, revealing the complexities behind the game's tactics, and why sometimes, sticking to your roots might just be the best play. From Kelce's star power to Mahomes' show-stopping moves, we leave no stone unturned in analyzing what makes these teams tick — and occasionally tock.
Looking ahead, we're eyeing the upcoming Super Bowl with both anticipation and a fair dose of skepticism, considering whether the Chiefs' adaptable offense can match up to the 49ers' burgeoning firepower. We debate, we argue, and yes, we even make a few friendly wagers. So, whether you're a diehard fan or just love the game, tune in and take part in a discussion that's as spirited as the sports bar on game day — and just as likely to end with either cheers or tears, depending on the score.
Ever feel like your team's playbook has been tossed out during the big game? Join me and special guest Dave from the Dave and Doc podcast as we dissect the latest NFL matchups, including the Ravens' baffling shift from their renowned ground game to a less successful aerial assault. We're not just armchair quarterbacks; we bring our passion for the Ravens and the 49ers to the table, offering a unique perspective on each team's strategies, star player performances, and the emotional rollercoaster that is watching your team in high-stakes situations.
Feel the tension as we break down the significance of Travis Kelce's antics on the field and whether they enhance or distract from the game we love. Dave and I get candid about our admiration and frustrations with our teams, revealing the complexities behind the game's tactics, and why sometimes, sticking to your roots might just be the best play. From Kelce's star power to Mahomes' show-stopping moves, we leave no stone unturned in analyzing what makes these teams tick — and occasionally tock.
Looking ahead, we're eyeing the upcoming Super Bowl with both anticipation and a fair dose of skepticism, considering whether the Chiefs' adaptable offense can match up to the 49ers' burgeoning firepower. We debate, we argue, and yes, we even make a few friendly wagers. So, whether you're a diehard fan or just love the game, tune in and take part in a discussion that's as spirited as the sports bar on game day — and just as likely to end with either cheers or tears, depending on the score.
Good luck. All right, I know I got a late start in here, but hey, duty calls, work calls. But I'm off work now. But I'm here. I am here for all the beating that y'all gave me over the weekend. On Sunday it's Tuesday, but guess what? I'm still happy. I'm still repping my raven as your boy, Damon. I'm here with DJ and Tree Podcast. You know my sponsors are going across the bottom of this game. I'm just waiting for you all. Come on in here. You can say what you want. I am ready for it. I'm just going to give you analysis, but I got another special guest I'm going to show today. I know I'm waiting for TJ to come, but I got my man, Dave. He's from Dave and Doc podcast and you see who he reps. He reps to 49ers and we were texting back and forth during this game and I say, hey, man, your 49ers did your thing. At least we saw one good game over the weekend. Our game was just not.
Dave :You know I was watching that. I was watching both games, but of course I'm most nervous about the Niners game and um and you know I joke with people I'm I'm only 47, but I feel like I'm 63 at this point because I can't take many more weeks of the 49ers. You know doing this, but no thanks for having me back on. Uh, sorry about your Ravens. Uh, I, I just it's. They got Patrick Mahomed, I mean, that's just. You know what I mean.
Damond :That's what they got. I got Mahomed boy.
Dave :Yeah, and I, I, I don't know what to say that guy. He makes some of the ugliest throws I've ever seen, like he's throwing stuff underhanded and doing stuff, but he's just, I mean, it's just that little bit of movement. He reminds me a lot in some ways of a younger Aaron Rogers, how he could move three inches to the left and then all of a sudden he's got, like you know, I don't know an extra 30 seconds to throw. So the Ravens, the Ravens, to me they didn't run the ball. I don't understand why the best, the best rushing team in football against one of the worst defenses against the run and they decided not to run.
Dave :And if you're not going to run the ball with whoever, then let I mean then let Lamar go. I, I, I have no idea. I don't know if the weather played, and it didn't look like it rained that hard, it really wasn't raining down there until a little
TJ:bit later.
Damond :I have no idea, but let me bring TJ in here.
KELSEY :What's going on, gentlemen? Yeah.
Damond :I went from a very, very high to a very, very low watching that game. Don't get me wrong. I rep my team, I'm rep my Ravens, but we did not play our game at all. We didn't we? We went away from everything. And I and I'm going to ask both of you, because you probably both watched the game Can you see Dalvin cook in one snap in that game?
KELSEY :I was going to ask that, Like they just they just signed them for nothing.
Dave :Yeah.
KELSEY :Why. Yeah, it was it was perplexing because it was like all those running plays that they did where you saw Gus Edwards. I was like you know, okay, cool, two, three yards, whatever. And I was like, if Dalvin cook was in there, that's four to six, four to seven, Easy, easy Right, I guess.
KELSEY :And then, when you think, about the yeah, and anything about the threat that he is from the backfield, how he couldn't change the game. From that standpoint also, it's like you just didn't have that at all. I'm like I, I, I'm, I'm still trying to figure out how that just didn't transpire. It was insane, Couldn't believe it. I just like this.
Damond :I said you know something, this game's over, especially when Mr Butterfingers McBob Valdez Scantley caught that fourth and sixth pass. He dropped everything all season long.
KELSEY :Yeah. And then he used that pass.
Damond :I said this game over game's over.
KELSEY :But again, man, like you, you could point to just the lack of, of of utilizing. What got you to this point. It's the, it's the chief's slash Patriots syndrome. That's what I've been calling it. I've been saying it for the past two weeks now. What it seems like, whenever you go against the New England Patriots back in the day, or the chief's now, whatever you did all year long, for whatever reason, you go against them and it just completely, just doesn't work.
Damond :Goes out the window.
KELSEY :You just choose not to use it. I don't know why, I don't know what it is, but it's always against those teams where I'm just like so just just don't do. What's got this?
Damond :point all year New England, the new New England.
KELSEY :I mean, I mean, just don't just don't do the same thing. That's gotten you out this point all year. Just just don't do it at all. Okay, got it, got it. And I and in certain games I understand you know you want to try to throw your opponent off, you want to give them some different, different looks, different, you know different formations. I get all that, but when you're bread and butter is to dominate the football game by running the football and running it effectively. To set up the past. Why are we doing screen passes, sidearm throws? Why are we doing the, the, the, the, the running plays with, with running backs? That shouldn't be in there? It was like what are we doing?
Damond :I said the same thing. You know the funny thing, the.
Dave :The funny thing was it's a coach in his last name's hardball and you don't run 60% of the time Like.
Damond :I mean that's.
Dave :I mean that's just shocking to me, Cause I mean the hardballs, you know, they all love to run the football and I, I it blows in and that kind of weather, even if it wasn't raining, it was still wet and you know kind of gross outside, line up and run, and if it's, I mean, you know, figure it out, it's not hard. It's just, you know, to to to Pee Wee League right, just line up double tight, put a full back in the backfield and just go. I mean you, yeah, they, they. Every time this year they've gotten into trouble. That's what they can do. They can always go back to. Just, I mean it doesn't have to be some Kyle Shanahan, 19 different motions and all this stuff, just run the ball, you know, a gaps fine, a gaps fine, I mean just run it. And I think they would have been successful and at least got them to pull the safeties up a little bit. But they just they got theirself in a situation where they just couldn't get out of it and no it just the score was.
Dave :The score was the final was 17 to 10. 17, 10. And I thought it was going to be a low scoring game. That was lower than I thought, but 17 to 10, but it didn't even feel that close. I mean, it really did. I didn't feel that close at all and that's it. It blew me away. This is again. They got. They got maho, right, right.
Damond :And the chiefs dominated the time possession. With the Ravens usually do, they dominated the time possession and if you notice when I was noticed with the chiefs, you know they did a lot of side to side plays and rarely really through the ball down the field. They was going side to side because they was trying to get yards after the catch and I was like, okay, the Ravens are home. And then on that, they're home. And then on it. The defense did their job.
Damond :Yeah, I expected them to at least to get 21 points and they did Defense, did their job. It's just I don't know what was going on in the offense side. Yeah, and and D, I see your comments that Hodges was read special teams. I get he's special teams, but he gave up on what his bread and butter was the whole season. Run the ball down your throat, yeah.
KELSEY :And good, I'm sorry. No, no, you got it. No, I was. I was going to say that the defense did the very best they could against my homes on every third down possible. There was no better defense of play. There was no better defensive effort that you could have had than what Baltimore did on Sunday. You just couldn't right. And so, when you factored that in, there was a lot of times where I was watching the game and I was like all right, lamar, they got you a stop, let's put some points on the board. All right, lamar, they got you another stop, let's put some points on the board Right. Right, they're doing their job.
KELSEY :And you know, at some point it, it, it because because I might even want to lie in the first, I want to say the first quarter started, second quarter, you saw that the defense was just completely getting, you know, not like just annihilated in the, in the front, you could tell in the trenches they were just getting pushed around all over the place. It was bad, but then, as towards the end of the second quarter, they started really tightening up and then, for the rest of the game, they really started to show their dominance as to why they were our top defense in the entire league, and so you saw that and I was like one of the hardest things you can do against a, a chief, a Mahomes led chiefs team, is get three and outs to stop them on these drives. Right, they did that. Now it's like all right, lamar, let's go.
Dave :Well, you remember how bad that that the Tampa Bay defense and Super Bowl 55 made. The made Patrick Mahomes and the chiefs look at the I think the chiefs- only scored nine points in that game.
Dave :Yeah Well, this Ravens defense did the same thing. I mean they scored 17. I mean they did the exact same thing. So you're right, I think the defense couldn't have played any better against Patrick Mahomes, and I mean you know he was hitting Kelsey every once in a while, but again there was nothing explosive really downfield, you know, here and there. And I mean I thought they had him moving around a lot. They had him moving to his left several times, which, again, I've always said I don't understand why you chase a right handed quarterback to the right, chase them to the left. I don't understand and again, granted, I coach offense, so what do I know? But I just know like I don't understand that. So I felt like they were forcing him to make off schedule throws and I mean I can tell you this if the Niners hold the chiefs to 17 points, I feel really good about our chances of beating them. But you hold that team to 17 points, you've done something.
Damond :So here's the thing Y'all got CMC. Y'all got CMC.
Dave :And I know we will definitely run the ball. We definitely will run the ball. He's going to run the ball.
Damond :Oh yeah, and I'm pretty sure you're going to get D-Bow back also. So good stuff, frank. Y'all probably you know, y'all probably gonna put on a much better performance offensively than what we did, because Shanahan is offensive.
Dave :It depends on if we play second half 49er football or first half 49er football, because you know, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what we're gonna run. Yeah it's like the pages were sticking together in the playbook or something. He's like oh shit, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, page nine, here we go. I've been running page six this whole time. I don't know.
Damond :Like I said, we, we, we didn't play our game, we beat ourselves. But before you came at TJ me and Dave was talking about when the defendant knocked my home's in a face, with it's all.
Dave :That's the biggest hands I've ever seen in my life.
REMY :Right, you know, like a pop-eye hand that smacked him.
KELSEY :Oh my god.
Dave :I'm waiting. I'm waiting for the memes to, like it, make it look like they hit him in the face with a pie. That's what I'm waiting for Wait I'm waiting for the memes because it looked bad. We were, we were laughing. I was watching it with two of my boys and we were laughing. It's like you couldn't see his face anymore.
Damond :I Was like it even knocks him, since the Mahom home's like wait a minute, you know how you usually complain. He wasn't even complaining.
Dave :He's like man I'd be to still be alive.
KELSEY :So I mean that that's another thing too. Man, like you, you had Baltimore's front seven especially Continue to go after my home's. It wasn't like my home's was sitting in the pocket drinking the wine, talking to the lovely wife, checking in on the kids, seeing what the weather was gonna be like in Vegas, before he threw the ball. It was, it was none of that. It was none of that. It was just, hey, look man, hey, I actually have a clock before I throw this ball because if I don't, I will get hit. I mean, I go down but I will get hit.
KELSEY :Yeah, and that was another thing that was really back breaking about some of those long drives that Kansas City had was the third down conversions that they had, because there was a lot of moments where I was like, okay, my home's dead, the rights he's not, there's no way to get they can convert this. And all you see is Travis Kelsey Open in the middle, or you see. You see receive rights on the side, and we're like what, what is this? It was like it seemed like no matter what you did, it didn't. It didn't do anything, it just it just didn't matter.
KELSEY :And so it's one of those things where, where you know and the Brady Brady did kind of some of this too and with New England, where those third down conversions are very, very crucial, no matter what time of the game it is, because if they, if they get to in a row, that's enough, that's enough to start a celebration. Okay, yeah, no pun intended, okay. So so you know, it was the fact that they were able to convert those those third and sixes, those third and eight, those, those those third and threes, that was like I Don't know what else we could do, man.
Damond :We didn't play our game. We lost man. You know. I got you know at some moment to chat and I was the cramp cake, so I made bets for food with crab cakes. I got.
Damond :I got send it all off. I supposed to be wearing the Chief's jersey but I don't have one yet, but I will wear one. On one of my episodes I took, I took all my bets and I take all the stride, and so I am up on my bets and everything so how sick are you guys, though, of Travis Kelsey at this point?
Dave :Forget, forget Taylor Swift, all right, just. I mean, even if Taylor Swift wasn't in the picture, are you guys just not tired of Travis Kelsey? I am?
Damond :absolutely. You know, jason, jason, jason, that guy's a lot really. He's humble Jason. All credit where he's humble Travis is there again. Yeah, very, very arrogant.
Dave :Yeah.
Damond :I'm tired of the guy, but you see, he also got into the Ravens head. He got into their head because they were making mistakes. He got into the head, he did what he needed to do for his team to win.
KELSEY :Hey, I ain't gonna lie, man. You, you go 11 for 11 with targets and receptions. You get a touchdown on the board too. I ain't gonna lie, I'm gonna do a whole lot of trash talking that how to everybody that you could double team? It should be me. Out of all the coverage that you should put on one man, it should be me. It should be me all the attention to be on the meat. The coaching staff, the defensive line, the Secondary, the linebackers shoot, the fans should be watching me covering me, and yet I still get open and I still score. Oh, I'm sorry, you're gonna hear from me. You're gonna hear from me. I and you know what I get it Okay.
KELSEY :Travis Kelsey is not everybody's cup of tea. Sometimes he gets on my nerves because half the time he just he just talks his head off like he's a, like he's a pro wrestler. I love it personally when he goes that route, but it's one of those things where it's like Look, man, if you want me to shut up, stop me. It just seems like you just can't do it.
Dave :I think some of it, I think some others. Just, I mean I'm old, so like I kind of subscribe to, like you know, jerry rice style oh yeah, you know, gets to touch down, hands it to the official and, you know, walks off and but you know, I, I don't know, and this isn't this new no, no, no, it's, it's a dance party, you know. I mean, you know, I don't, I don't know I could do without some of it, but it's just, I mean I don't, I don't, I don't hate Patrick Mahomes, I don't, I don't, you know, I don't hate Pacheco, it's just, there's just something about Travis Kelsey that just I don't know, and like he, you know he and his brother have a podcast. I, like you guys are listening to it or not. It's actually, it's actually pretty good, but yeah, but if you listen to that podcast you really come away like in Jelsie Jason, more than you do Travis, I mean, like you really do. So I, I don't know.
KELSEY :So but you know again, like With Travis, travis at the end of day is a receiver. He's not a wide receiver but he's still a receiver that gets a lot of attention. Oh yeah and so with any receiver in the NFL. You are good and you know that you are great. There is a little bit of an of an aspect of being a diva to a certain Nick sure just that. It's just that Kelsey is one of those guys that will extend the diva-ness, and I know that's not a word.
Dave :I know I like it. No, it's yeah, we. It's officially a word it's yours. Thank you oh.
KELSEY :He extends it to the ump degree. But again, I will preference my comments by saying that he only does that Because he's having the performance to back it up. See, we're not seeing any of this If he ends the game with two catches, with 15 yards, and doesn't score. We're not seeing any of this. If he doesn't get a single target, we're not seeing any of this. But when you start off the game with 11 targets and 11 receptions and close to 100 yards receiving and a touchdown, oh, I'm sorry, you're gonna hear from me Especially in a game.
KELSEY :You're gonna hear from me Sorry, not sorry, you know I mean so. So and I think I think that's that's most people I know everybody wants to be. You know the, you know the abiding citizen. You know we're just gonna hand it off to the referee and call today, I get it, I get there's. There's that sort of people out there, I get it. Not taking that, taking that away, but in the moment when you're doing as great as Travis Kelsey was on Sunday, you can't help it. You can't help it. You know, obviously we would love to see him get humbled in a football, you know well, one of us here would, for sure.
KELSEY :Again, man, it's like and we say this about receivers all the time where, like you know, oh man, they just did there's such a diva, they talk trash and all this other stuff. But then you looked at the stat streets they're having 150 yards, two touchdowns, 13 catches. It's like Look, I'm the number one option and y'all still can't stop me. There ain't no one else on this offense that he's gonna throw the ball to and y'all still can't. Y'all still can't hold me down.
Dave :It is utterly amazing. I mean, listen, he's an incredible athlete, don't get me wrong. And I mean he's a playmaker on and off the field. Right, I mean he's Dayton Taylor Swift, but you know he's plays everywhere. But I mean the fact, the fact that he can get that open Against particularly that Ravens defense. It blew me away.
KELSEY :Yeah, and again.
Dave :I mean, that's why you go back to how Tampa played them. And I don't know what the 49ers are watching this week. You know they might be watching old home movies, but if it were me.
Dave :I might take a you know a peek at that Super Bowl and watch how the that Tampa defended him and the Chiefs, because they just, I mean just knocked him around that night and that's not easy to do him. Like you said, travis Kelsey, I don't, I don't know what his, his catch percentage is per target, but it's it. I'm sure it's pretty high.
Dave :You know, over his career. If you get it anywhere within his wingspan he's generally coming down with it. You know right, not the best blocker, you know, he's an above average blocker is what I would probably say. But as far as a pass catcher he's terrifying. I mean, you know, I Mean I'm still gonna despise him, but that's okay. But you know, you know, and after next week, I just you know, after the Super Bowl, then he can just, you know, go do whatever he wants to do and I won't think about him again till spring. But yeah, that that terror as a nine or fantasy just terrifies me because I don't know how you cover the guy Like.
Dave :I don't know what you do.
Damond :I really don't, I don't know what you do.
Dave :Yeah absolutely I go ahead.
Damond :You remember when Detroit and Chicago used to play back in the NBA and Detroit said Jordan's not gonna be this, jordan's not gonna be this, right, mm-hmm, everybody else can beat us, but Jordan's not gonna beat us. Yeah, and they put a beat no Jordan in them games, in them series. That's what you got to do to them, that's what you got to do to them. Yeah, yeah again like I See these comments right, you see these comments, these, these chief fans coming in here. I'm not even commenting on those.
Dave :You guys are making me sick. Oh my gosh.
KELSEY :You gotta get used to. It is fine.
Damond :Oh hey, they, they relentless in here.
KELSEY :I see that.
Damond :I see that they're relentless. It's insane, as I can handle the natives.
KELSEY :As they should. But but you know, when you look at the chief's offense man, especially as of late, especially with this playoff run, they're not doing anything Spectacular. They're not doing a whole lot of motions. There's not a whole lot of Travis Kelsey move here. No they're double move here back yard football.
KELSEY :It's the same. It's the similar route tree every time. Yeah, travis Kelsey, if you don't see it here and you see Patrick Mahomes start to turn, start to make a play out of no way you go ahead and run right there with him. Find a way to get open. It just so happens that what everybody's saying, find a way to get open he ends up being more open than he was initially when he was trying to be open off the initial route. It's insane. So it's like with Kansas City's offense. It's not like they're doing anything like a Mike Medaniel in in Miami or what cow Shanahan is doing in San Francisco. It's just the fact that Travis Kelsey is wide open on Almost any given route on the tree, no matter what you do as a defense.
Dave :I just watching the team, watching the chiefs, probably over the last four or five weeks. I think you're right. It doesn't look like there's even a system. It's just go to the Cadillac and take a left.
REMY :Yeah, I mean it's pretty cool.
Dave :I mean it's what it looks like. It looks just like street ball, I mean, and it's. And I mean I mean help, it's working, you know? Hey, I'll read this comment my money's on the 49ers. Good for you, listen you have some intelligent listeners out there.
Damond :You got a shout out PJ. Yeah well, remy Remy, who's been coming also. He's a 49ers fan.
Dave :Oh well, good, Okay yeah. And also okay, all right, I like it. Okay, all right. I'm waiting on something pretty bad from a chiefs fan coming up, but you know.
Damond :I, they're coming. They're coming, he and Corey's in here, it's funny.
Dave :It's funny because the second, the Niners, won the game. I'm at this point I'm sitting in the floor because I can't stand up anymore, I'm just exhausted. I can't tell you guys like I'm exhausted, you know, and, damon, I know you gave me a call. I didn't even see that till later, like I was. I was just exhausted like physically and mentally because, you know, I coach football too. So I'm like pacing the floor trying to call plays and I'm like, hey, safety's pulling, safety's pulling shift, all this crap. Like they care what I'm thinking or it can hear me, you know.
TJ:I.
Dave :Be committed if somebody outside of my family was watching the game with me. But but after that, like the realization set in. I can't describe the feeling. The realization said it was like we got to play the chiefs again. I mean, it really just hit me like I'm really excited about this, but I'm I'm, I'm nervous now. So I would have been nervous either way. The Ravens are a great team too, so I wasn't exactly happy about the situation either way. But I'm like, oh, here we go again. So you know.
Damond :And you know something, here's the thing, here's the thing. It's remind and we was all talking about this it's this whole new England thing and that's always remind us of this whole new England thing and it's like. It's like they're here again, they're here again, they're here again, they're here again.
Damond :It's time and it's like and it's just like which I was just talking about. It's nothing really spectacular or what they've been doing. Yeah, it was. No. Let's go back to what Tom Brady does. Tom Brady just say okay, this ball is coming out, it's coming to you, plain and simple. This ball is coming out, it's coming to you soon. As I snap it, it's coming to you. Look for it. He. He had a system and programmed and what they ever did, him and Balanchek they were great team. It was either that or put a needle in that ball.
Dave :Get some of that air out of it either way.
Damond :Oh, oh, we can. We can do a gym hall ball and just steal your calls.
Dave :I think that's why Jim's glasses are so thick. I mean, I think that's that camera. It's like right, you know.
KELSEY :You know what the difference is between New England and Kansas City. And it's the part that scares me, right, because when the Wayne Glenn with Tom Brady it was a lot of pre snap Um, he wasn't as as Lethal as Pey Manning was pre snap, but trust him, believe me, if he spotted it he was gonna exploit it before the snap even showed up. The thing with Kansas City is the problem is Patrick Mahomes can not only recognize the pre snap but, in case the pre snap notion didn't work, his off schedule playmaking makes up for it, every single time.
Dave :Do you guys watch UFC at all in E-MMA stuff?
TJ:Yes so.
Dave :John Jones is the fighter everybody loves to hate, right? Incredible athlete. He's been in some trouble and all that sort of stuff, but the reason I think that he's obviously athletic, extremely gifted, but I think one of the reasons that you can't beat him is because he doesn't know what he's going to do next. So it's hard to prepare for that and what you're saying is right, because I don't think Patrick Mahomes knows, he's just flowing with it and when you talk about sports people say this all the time and you kind of forget about it.
Dave :But it's the most important position in football as a quarterback, because you see what a great quarterback can do, because I mean outside of Kelsey, I mean Pacheco kind of came on later in the year but, like you know, I mean Mahomes was surrounded by some you know, on offense this year and got them into the playoffs. So you can see what a generational quarterback can do for your football team. It's amazing. I hope and I hope Brock Purdy's that guy, but you know, yet to be seen. But yeah, I think that's why he's so hard to prepare for, because yeah, it's like okay, they look like they're doing this and then Mahomes, like you said, just rolls to his left, takes three steps clicks his heels, shuts his eyes and throws it, and it's right in Travis Kels's chest for a touchdown Trudy, yeah, or by the fingers, mcbob.
Damond :I'll ask Andy, I'll just go get the ball today.
Dave :Yeah, I missed them all year.
KELSEY :I will miss what into me yeah.
KELSEY :Yeah, man, it's. That's the concerning part man, because with New England you know there were. If you had the now granted, the chances were slim to none. But if you had the ideal defensive play for the formation that they had, if you executed on every single assignment, chances are you won that play, or you won that drive, or you won that possession. But with Kansas City it's like, all right, we could be casual and start off with a run, but we got some momentum throwing the ball right now. So we'll do a screen here and then we'll do a middle, we'll do a medium pass here and then, just when you think that we might do a small pass play here, we'll just watch it over your head and by that point you know how much you can do about it. Because now you're completely honest and it's like with Kansas City, that's the part that scares me the most, because it's almost as if they don't even have a schedule way of doing this.
Dave :I don't think they do.
KELSEY :Every team has a script play. Every team has a first 15 call sheet to start their first quarter, to start their first three drives. That's usually how it is After those first 15, it's whatever you're feeling, whatever the moment calls for. After that. I swear with Kansas City's offense. There is no such thing as a script play. There's not one at all. It's not.
Damond :Hey, TJ, you getting yelled at you getting yelled at now. Hey, hey, hey look.
KELSEY :I don't know why. I don't know why. Look, look, I'm calling it how I see it, OK.
Dave :Just shake it off, tj. Just shake it off, yeah.
KELSEY :Yeah, I might mess around and get the staple phrase that I've been given to that. So be careful what you wish for in the comment section. But it's just the fact that they don't even have a script setup on how they dial up these plays, on how they dial up these first couple of sessions. It's literally just. You know what I see their running zone. We may feel lucky, we'll just let them run, but Patreco's so good that he'll get five yards out of that run that we just kind of were lazy enough to just run up Right. And then there'll be another play where it's like you know what they're running man, but Travis Kosey's going to get open. So we're going to do an out route for Travis Kosey First down.
KELSEY :And the thing about it is that all Kansas City needs is some sort of rhythm. It doesn't have to be three first downs in a row, although it would be nice If they just get two third down conversions, if they get a huge play on second down, if you get a three first down drive, if you just have a long drive where you're just converting all over the place. That's all they need and that's the problem. The other teams you need so much to go in their favor. You need a big first down, you need a big chunk play, you need this, you need that. Kansas City, if we just get the small things right on a consistent basis, ain't nothing that we could do, nothing that anybody could do, and good thing you said that.
Damond :All right, let's go back to the Frankfurt game. Let's go back to that with Miami, right?
KELSEY :The Frankfurt game.
Damond :So it's you know. You have to look at it like this. Remember they went down. They only scored 21 points. Remember Miami started coming back. They had to figure out ways. Okay, how can we just give it? What did they do? They stopped Tyree kill. They stopped Tyree kill. I'm going to take your best playmaker away from you and see if you can beat us that way.
Dave :Which is what Belichick used to do. Right, I mean that's. I mean that's. Belichick said who's your guy? Okay, well, he's not going to be this, it'll be somebody else we might lose a hundred to nothing, but it will not be.
Damond :It will be that person. Yeah, that whole, like I said, that whole Detroit and Chicago thing back in the day, jordan's not going to beat us Right. You know someone else is going to beat us, but not Jordan.
Dave :Here's the thing that I'm only going to say this once and I would never say it on my own podcast, um, but I'll say it on. I'll say it on this one, uh, and somebody will hit me for it at some point. But the thing that drives me the most nuts about Kansas city and this is the honest to God's truth we know what coaching Triandy Reed came from. Right, he came from Bill Walsh to see that offense beat my team makes me want to throw up Like I, you like, I know you can't copyright or trademark that offense, but for God's sakes, man, don't beat me running the offense that that came from San Francisco, from Bill Walsh, because that's where it, that's where it came from. You're throwing to the running backs, you're doing it. Nobody was doing that before Bill Walsh. I mean Bill Walsh was thrown to the full backs and people were like that's the dumbest thing you can do. And now everybody's doing it and Reed does it. I mean really close to the way Walsh did it. And Reed, you know, like in San Francisco they've got a great quarterback, so it's just, um, I, I don't know. It drives me nuts.
Dave :Every time I see the chiefs I'm like no, no, no, no, five yard pass, six yard gain. I mean that's our. That was the nineers philosophy. I'm like I'm not going to stop it. That's the thing that makes me this. I mean, that's the stuff that drives me nuts. I mean, if we go to the Super Bowl and we lose to Baltimore or something, I'm like, okay, that's a different kind of offense, you know whatever. But for Andy Reed to come and do it, I'm like it's. It's like it would have been like losing to Mike Holmgren. You know any of those guys from Walsh's coaching tree, right, and I know the Shanahan's are from that lineage as well. So that's why I'm fine with Shanahan being there. You know, mike was there as an OC and, and now Kyle, but as a head head coach. But yeah, that one, that one just hurts my soul. Uh, deep, deep, deep to my soul.
Damond :Deep, deep in your soul.
Dave :Yes.
Damond :Deep, deep. Yes, all right, I got to bring Remy in here because he wanted to come in 49ers fan. So, you got. You got a fellow 49ers fan in here.
TJ:Great Great.
Dave :I love it.
Damond :I love it how y'all doing Great to be here and me and Remy we talked earlier on the phone but he was calling me about completing something else and I was like, hey, you know, congratulations, this that he said. Man, I wouldn't even call him about that. But hey, you know, we got the talking a little bit off about that and we was talking about some other things. But I'll save that for another conversation, but I'll give you the floor.
TJ:Sir man, I'm getting on it because you know I'm here. I'm seeing a lot of fours in these chats and these.
KELSEY :I thought it was just me.
Damond :Uh-oh, well, his phone did it.
Dave :His cell phone, his cell phone carriers Andy Reed, oh that's what does it every time.
TJ:Somebody tried calling yeah. But I hear a lot of Kelsey talk. Kelsey, kelsey, kelsey, yeah, kelsey, he had a good game. I ain't no, I ain't no, ain't no line, but the Ravens had plenty of opportunities and they would stop with them. You know they it was, you know just so happened. You know they got away. But when they played the $49, the dang, the, the mashup is this they run defense Damn near last.
Dave :Yeah, damn, near last. Oh it's cold.
KORY:It's cold.
TJ:Versus I run offense which the Ravens didn't utilize. They was what leading the lead Russian.
Dave :They weren't there with the number one Russian team of football.
TJ:They, they watched 11 times. They watched 11 times, right, I think less than that.
Dave :Gussily had like three or four runs or something like that.
TJ:And the malls, the malls watched for eight yeah. So, they went away from the script. Yeah, you don't stand. So therefore, when you go away from the script, it's going to happen, because once they score seven points, they stop, they stop. Why you stop running? They want to score seven points.
Dave :No idea Right Right.
TJ:Every time when the Ravens get into the playoffs like that, they do stupid stuff and it starts up top with the coaching, because I remember a couple of years ago they was playing Buffalo. They rushed 99 yards down the field. Get to the one yard line and throw interception at the one pick six, why yeah?
Dave :Ask the Seattle Seahawks that same question, right, I mean it's the same thing Right. Like you got March on Lynch. That's four. Four plays in a row to March on Lynch is how you win that Super Bowl. That's exactly what you do.
TJ:You know, but it, but I'm the correct me If I'm wrong doesn't the quarterback has the option to make his audible or his decision once he's in it and he sees certain things?
KELSEY :Depends on, depends on this on the team and depends on his placement on the team.
Dave :Yeah, the coach usually gives them the carte blanche to do that and, like my homes did it, you know, manning did it, brady did it. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. You would think you would think in those situations you would give them at least two play calls or something and say, you know, or here's a third emergency, if none of this looks right. But I don't know, but it was, it's weird to see them just stop running the ball there, like I don't. I guess they really never started running the ball really, but I mean they ran it some. But I'm like, what are you doing? Why wouldn't? I would just line up and run until they stop it.
Damond :But let me, let me answer this there's no excuses, anyone, none of us right. Facts and points of the game. No one in here, not even me, is making an excuse for the Ravens losing that game. Not at all. Not making no excuses.
TJ:We just point out what we didn't do. I don't know what he's talking about.
Damond :But if you want a link, because Kelsey is up here and she's saying oh, you know, this is everybody's green chubba, which one do y'all want a link? To come in here? Because you tell me Corey or Kelsey, which one do you want the link? Oh, I'll bring your bullfin here. So because I don't want y'all to think this is a one sided thing, it's not.
KELSEY :It's not, but it's just. It's identifying what it is and what it isn't, and when you watch the game on Sunday, you saw that again it's a traumatizing factor, because I swear we went through a decade and a half of this with New England. Now we're dealing with this again with Kansas City, where and I said it before and I'll say it again Whatever the hell you did all year long, for whatever, reason you go against them and you just completely just shy away from it, or you do it, you do it and it just doesn't work.
KELSEY :It just doesn't work all together and I don't know what you could point that to. I don't know if you could point that to. Just you know the experience on the cheese roster or the Patriots roster. Patriots roster had none of my veterans all over the roster no-transcript. It's like every single time you go up against Kansas City, everything you did well all year long, you go against them. I just can't do it. I don't know what to do. I don't know what it is anymore.
Dave :You think it's just them overthinking it when they're?
TJ:playing the Chiefs. I know what it is. Lamar ain't wanted that bad.
Damond :He didn't want to put on his back. The ravers didn't wanted that bad hey.
TJ:Josh Allen. Maybe he would have tried to put on his back, which he did the previous week, before he tried to put on his back. Lamar didn't try to do nothing. He ain't try to run. He ain't try to run his face, but Perti did.
Damond :Yeah, he did, perti did he wanted it.
KELSEY :He wanted it, he sold it. Here's my pushback with that.
TJ:Come on, taylor Hertz, I want a hand.
KELSEY :Oh.
TJ:You know, I got to get him, get on him. Why I?
REMY :don't know why. I don't know why.
KELSEY :I've been so nice, I've been so nice. Don't, don't, don't, don't.
TJ:It's been a minute. It's been a minute, I bet it has.
KELSEY :I bet it has. But with Lamar man, he didn't run, he didn't ramble because there was nowhere to run. I swear I don't know how many times you have to look in the comments and watch the game twice now I watched it back twice. There were times where everybody was saying, oh, lamar said it took the run here. But I promise you there was someone on the end, whether it was Carl Optis on one end or a menuhu who unfortunately, towards ACL, is going to be out for the Super Bowl but on Sunday. But you talk about QB Contain. It was QB Contain. He was not getting one outside and if he was, he was going on the out of bounds where he wasn't going to get any yards.
TJ:So D-Nasty, he only ran eight times D-Nasty.
KELSEY :So, again, again, what did you want Lamar to do? Okay, I know everybody are accustomed to Lamar being this game altering. You know big runs, unstoppable plays here, all that. But again, when the cheese hat contains and they did on a crucial downs too, which was very important they did on third down, they did on second down, the long second downs, any time that it put the ravens behind the eight ball. That's when they had all the containers, that's when they had all the blitzes, that's when they had everything that was ready for Lamar to even remotely run or escape the pocket.
KELSEY :We were setting that down. So the whole idea that Lamar didn't want it bad enough, I disagree personally, because I promise you there was nothing that Lamar, my mom, myself, Damon, the fans, John Harbaugh, there is nothing that no one could do to offset what the Chiefs defense did on Sunday Absolutely nothing. So I don't even think that's so much on Lamar, I think that's just so much on how great the Chiefs defense was. They figured it out when they needed to.
TJ:And how poor the coaching was. And how poor the coaching was because they don't hard bar them, they don't make adjustments. We talked about that before. He's bad at that. He doesn't know how to make adjustments.
Damond :Okay and, like I said, when watching that game I was like, okay again. And we all just preached this what you wish your bread and butter, run the ball, once most always been knowing. Run the ball, pound the rock, pound them in the sand. It opens up the pass, it opens up this and, corey, I sent you the link. We still waiting for you. So they went away from their bread and butter and I was talking to my supervisor down there, big Dallas fans and I said, man, we just lost this game because they don't win away from their game, and they completely just abandoned it. I don't know if he was just trying to prove a point, to say, oh, we're gonna keep up with my homes in the air. No, no, do what we need to do. Pound them into submission. Look what the time of possession was. That's the key there. That's the key they took the whole game.
Dave :That's how you beat my homes is you keep him on the bench. You keep him on the bench. You know you have a good 12 play drive that takes up nine minutes and a quarter and score a touchdown. It's basically like scored 14 at that point. I mean that's how you beat. I mean, like I said, I've coached football before and I can't tell you how many times that was our plan. Parents are screaming at us from the stands going come on, guys, throw it down the field Like nope. Three yards in a cloud of dust, it's all I want.
KELSEY :It's all I want.
Dave :We run in draws inside and traps. I mean we run in counters. We're gonna eat this clock, but yeah, I think you're right. I mean that was. It's just I don't know. I don't know if it was coaching, I don't know if it was overthinking, because it's the chiefs and you're trying to do something special, but they didn't. They were a shell of the team that they normally are.
Damond :I mean yeah. Like I said, I get fair opportunity for everyone. So I get fair opportunity for everyone. So, okay, come on Kelsey.
REMY :So now let's get into it, okay, oh my God. First of all you know I've been waiting for this. You know I've been with 87. Yes, it's Kelsey. So first of all, all of those games. I know Ravens blew out everybody. I know San Francisco came through, but let me say this Sure, she came to us when it's time to play. Remember that they came in at the very end and they showed up when it's time, so nothing was handed to them. Y'all can make excuses about what the ref's doing.
KELSEY :You can make excuses about the politics you can say whatever you want, I got this fellas Wait wait, wait.
Damond :Who said any of that on this show tonight?
KELSEY :I got this. I got this.
REMY :Hold on a minute. We still sent it back to the Super Bowl, Okay see, that's where we're going.
KELSEY :I knew that was the finishing sentence.
REMY :I knew it was going to be no. No, it wasn't a finishing sentence. It's not. I asserted that because that is a fact.
KELSEY :That's what I'm saying Absolutely Okay, do you feel better now if you got that out of your system?
REMY :I don't know. I have a lot more, but if you have something, go ahead.
KELSEY :Okay, so what we were bringing up weren't excuses, right. What we were bringing up were different key points that transpired during this game that affected the outcome. That were the factors for why the Chiefs won the game.
REMY :No.
KELSEY :Why they won.
REMY :They were going to win the game anyway.
KELSEY :They just started out winning the game. As a Chiefs fan, that was a good one to have. As a Chiefs fan, absolutely, you are entitled to that belief. 1,000%.
REMY :As a Nazi fan. You are not blind. You're like, you're entitled to that belief you have, but you're not blind as a non-Chiefs fan.
KELSEY :Okay, okay, not too much, okay Not too much.
KELSEY :No, no. So again, when we point out stuff like okay, the Ravens struggled here, what I brought up recently, in case you were listening, was that a lot of the reasoning why the Ravens couldn't do anything offensively was because of how dominant the Chiefs were defensively. Every single time there was a chance for a contain, there was a chance for a blitz on third down, there was a chance for a second and long y'all took advantage of that. So it hindered the Ravens' offense from having that variety of plays to choose from. And even still, even if they were to pick the best of plays, it probably wasn't even gonna work, because everything was pointing in the favor of the Chiefs defense. That's just how well they were played. Now again, context is very important, because Baltimore also shied away from the run game, and had they had Dalvin Cook running the football instead of Gus Edwards, I think that that would be a different story.
REMY :But they didn't.
KELSEY :Sure Okay, all right, all right, all right, cec, you walked into this one.
REMY :Let's just go with the players that was playing. This is why I say I got this fellas.
Damond :Thanks for coming in. I got you All right.
Dave :Hey, go, go Nodders. Go Nodders dude, if Kelsey misses his flight, or something that'd be terrible.
REMY :Whatever?
Damond :You know Taylor's supposed to be doing a show tonight before over in Singapore or something.
Dave :Yeah, she's in Tokyo. She's in Tokyo. So, Travis will have to shake it off and just play without her there.
Damond :Good to have you, Dave. Good to have you, dave.
KELSEY :So Kelsey, do you remember and I know this is going to take a lot for you, but do you remember?
REMY :Don't be throwing jabs. We're heading to the school. Look, do you?
KELSEY :remember week one where your lost to Detroit and you won the one that thinks that you were missing.
REMY :I do remember that. I remember that you remember that?
KELSEY :Okay, do you remember what the narrative was around that game that y'all didn't have?
REMY :Who. There was a lot of narrative around that game, but in that game that's the same.
Damond :So who wasn't playing? That's what he said. Who wasn't playing? Who wasn't?
REMY :playing, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
Damond :Who wasn't playing? Only thing we asked him was a question about that. Who wasn't playing?
REMY :It does not matter who played and who didn't play. We lost. Oh my God, what's important. This is what's important, this is what's important.
Damond :We really shouldn't be going up there we're trying to make a point to you, but you know you're on this whole oh, but we here. But if you, just listen to what we're saying.
TJ:Hold on for a second, just a second. Kelsey, let me ask you this what do your defense rank against the run?
REMY :I have no idea. I could tell you that. You tell me, you tell me.
TJ:Damn their last. So the point where we were saying about difference making in games, whereas though the Ravens was number one in Russia, they didn't run, they didn't, they went away from that. You understand what?
REMY :I'm saying Because the Ravens showed up to be seen, so that's what they got.
TJ:What makes you think that?
REMY :Oh, my God.
TJ:OK, let me ask you that what makes?
Damond :you think that. So guess what?
REMY :They got what 13 games straight. Whatever they, People saw them.
TJ:OK, and then another thing too to me outside of Lamar, that was their running back. Ok, they didn't have a lot of different threats. So, coming to this game now, you have threats at the run game.
REMY :Coming to what game.
TJ:Playing the 49ers.
KELSEY :Yes, OK, no, the Ravens game is fast on that. Ok, coming to the game that's what they had.
REMY :Ok, you're saying that the 49ers is a threat for the Kansas City Chiefs. Is that what is going with this?
KELSEY :Yeah, Absolutely, not Absolutely.
REMY :Absolutely not. You're not a threat to the. Kansas City Chiefs? Absolutely not, oh my God, really OK. Ugh, what OK you?
Damond :got this. Wait, wait, yeah, yeah.
TJ:OK, no, no, you're not really into it like that. You're just a fan, I understand.
REMY :No, I am not a fan.
TJ:I've watched the game. I've watched them play, but that's why I asked you a certain question. See, we can't talk about certain like that. It's just you're going to Super Bowl, that I'm happy for you and that's fine.
REMY :No, we're not just going to Super Bowl. You have to understand that. I know you are a 49ers fan, so you're going to root for your team and I'm never going to go against my team. The last time I did go against the Chiefs, not only did they get to the Super Bowl, they won, so it is what it is. Ok, that's enough said so since you're working with the team, we already know what the result goes to. I'm always going to rock with them.
KELSEY :I'm always going to rock with them. Cool, so y'all heard of her first. She said it herself Her words, her words, no one else. I was talking with them when she decided to go away from the Chiefs one time.
REMY :They wanted, they want it now. They didn't just win one Super Bowl, though.
TJ:My first.
REMY :They didn't just win one Super Bowl, but you know what.
TJ:That was a different team.
REMY :You don't have the same.
TJ:Kansas City had the same threats that they had then. This is totally different team. It's not the same team as the Super Bowl a couple years ago. It's not the same 49ers. Everything is different A couple of years ago?
REMY :what Last year too? What are you talking about? Which game were you talking about?
KELSEY :OK.
Damond :Listen, listen. This is what they're explaining. This 49ers team just coming to play the Chiefs is completely different than when the last time they met and the Super Bowl can play a different to different to. They don't even have a number one.
TJ:Robert Seva.
REMY :And and we didn't when we played the Ravens.
TJ:I ain't gonna do it, the Ravens, but. But listen to this. We're gonna talk about the blowouts, right. What they did was capitalized off the mistakes, right? Oh, I heard it. I'm like, listen, hear me out. Purdy through for interceptions, right, but what you had to fail to realize, if you go through stats office, office wise, we have more yards than them offensively. They won off the mistake. That's how they want. Now, if you want, you know football, let's talk about football in. In fact.
KELSEY :Yeah.
TJ:Because they receive their wide receiver had the longest the y'all most yards ahead was 72 yards Mm-hmm.
Damond :Cory, if you go to my YouTube page, I'll send it on YouTube if you say it's not working for you.
TJ:But you know that is we, we, we everybody agree to disagree, but, like I said, it's not the same team when they had Tyreek Hill in them. This is not the same. All year they've been struggling and and and Patrick Holmes been a little girl, I'm not in struggling.
KELSEY :Yes, they have, they've been struggling on hey, I got this, I got it again good. Same person and I believe. Correct me from wrong game and help me out. Was it not week 12, week 13?, where they had lost to the Denver Broncos? Mmm and you had to go into the darkness retreat because you didn't wait.
REMY :I know you didn't go there. I said my team be stressing me out. Hey tree, oh you gotta be. I said, didn't I say they be stressing me out and I said they still pulled it through. Every time I watch I'll be like, oh, here we go.
Damond :Because we can always go back to transcripts yes. Can go back to transcripts.
KELSEY :I'm in the comment. You know what we'll do? That after this show we're gonna find the comment where she said you know what I'm in the darkness retreat to because my, my chief, Russell Wilson, and the low and the lowly of Denver Broncos okay, first of all, you are.
REMY :You're not supposed to be taken side. You supposed to be bias against all he is being.
Damond :He is being biased where has he been? Now you feel attack, now she feels that.
KELSEY :I've been unbiased this whole time. I haven't had a bias bone in my body all year.
REMY :All I can say is what happens when we get to the Super Bowl happens when we get to the Super Bowl, but. But the one thing that I did say is is that the chiefs will show up when it's time for them to play, because they got everything on the line and they did exactly what I said. So it doesn't all the rest of that stuff the stats, they the bottom or don't none of that matter, because they still headed to where they was trying to get to. So, it is now best.
Damond :Yeah, I'm not ignoring you. I saw all your comments. I just don't have one the current time, but I will honor my back. Okay, since you, let me answer this.
KELSEY :Good luck with the barbecue, by the way.
Damond :BP Instagram most shake. Everybody welcome on Instagram. Whoever's watching Instagram, welcome.
REMY :So they not, they not tree. I'm sorry, sis, they not gonna win, but look.
KELSEY :The truth of the matter is is that Kansas City is a team that Went from being a finesse team To now being a physical team every single time.
REMY :Every single time, everybody puts the bad mouth on the Kansas City Chiefs. They have shown up every time. Y'all just did that home. Y'all just did that last Tuesday, last episode, talking about how the raisins what they was gonna do. And I didn't mean for none of that out.
Damond :They asked I did, because it's simple fact that again.
Dave :That's my team and I'm always rich like me.
Damond :Welcome back, sir.
REMY :Oh, go ahead and put the bad mouth on the chief. So we.
KELSEY :Go, wasn't. I wasn't Downgrading or degrading the Kansas City Chiefs. What I was putting to limelight is what they are now in comparison to what they are before. It doesn't change the fact Whether they win or not, it just I'm just telling you the kind of team they are. They went from being this finesse team where Every past play was practically 30 yards, with Tyree kill and Travis Kelsey, because somebody's was always wide, wide open. It's not what I want to say right now, but wide open. Okay, you go from that to now. You are a physical team, led by the defense, led by the running game, led by Kelsey still, and led by my homes, but you win and lose, all for your defense right now. That is. That is the difference with Kansas City now. Before hand, we were always talking about the chiefs defense being the downfall chiefs and the offense was what was carrying them the entire time. Now the roles have reversed. Now it's the defense that's riding the coattails, and, and, and, and, showing people how it's done, and they have no problem winning the game. Whether it's 21 to 17, they have no problem winning the game. 3824, it doesn't matter. That's the only difference we can see now.
KELSEY :Here's the difference with San Francisco and it's the part Johnny to worry about. San Francisco has a quarterback now who is not only able to make plays in the pocket. What can make plays escaping the pocket? It'll. On top of that, they have, arguably, and I would say, the best running back and then, tired in itself, in Christian McCaffrey, when the thieves in this 49 is played in the Super Bowl. Four years ago that was not the case. You did not say that about the quarterback, you did not say that about the running back. Their best wide receiver was Devo Samuel, and now is pretty much it I use was a rookie that year. George was, was was a focal point in the offense and he was in a back end the Super Bowl, for whatever reason.
TJ:Okay, the same as the rookie too, but he, he was the only one that was good.
KELSEY :I was kind of wait, okay, so so so you have all those different elements back then. Now you have Brock Purdy, who, in my personal opinion if anybody disagrees with me, so be it. Whatever I think he's our modern-day Drew Brees, where everybody's gonna give him a lot of hate, everybody's gonna give him a lot of a lot of slack because he doesn't deliver the big time, throws all the time in all this other stuff. But if you want accuracy, if you want the right play being made, if you want to have the necessary played made for them to get the first down or to get the touchdown, he will make it. That's what I mean when I say that. That he's our modern-day Drew Brees. Okay, short guy, not too tall, but can deliver the football and could extend plays if he needs to. That's who brought party.
REMY :It's fine and dandy, that's just perfect. I'm not taking anything away from Brock Purdy, I'm just okay. At the end of it, let's just watch the game. You can't say 49ers is gonna win hell. I can't say teachers gonna win Well.
KELSEY :I.
REMY :Can't just keep panning to. I'm not talking, just I'm not talking. It's four of us in here at the end of the day, and you, you are still saying what y'all need to worry about, hell, what we all need to worry about, because we got some pretty down significant players on our team too. So, at the end of the day, just watch the game.
KELSEY :That's all I'm aware of that, kelsey. The thing is is that I think at this stage the game, given how many times we've seen the Kansas City Chiefs, I Think we all know what they have and what they don't. Okay, and what they do have is Patrick Mahomes, and what they do have is a defense, and what they do have is Isaiah Pacheco, and what they don't have is a number one why I receive.
REMY :And they didn't have that when they went up against the best team, which was the Ravens, and won. So stop trying to count them out. I saw them saying they didn't have none of you, anything was counting everybody else what it is. I don't know what you want me to say.
KELSEY :Oh.
Damond :Let's just wait to the Super Bowl about that.
REMY :I Did she's gonna rip their teams playing a simple let's just wait to the Super Bowl, and then all the trash talking gonna stop because I'm definitely gonna have a Super Bowl show.
TJ:And everybody and some people just don't need to personalize because you personalized. No, I'm not anything.
REMY :I'm coming just like the commentator.
TJ:I'm doing the same thing, you're personal, your personalizing, but it's cool Because you know, at the end of the day, everybody picked out certain flaws that certain teams are having.
REMY :Such as the Ravens was a great team. San Francisco plays. What do you want?
Damond :Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let him finish Talk. You cuz the body off.
TJ:That's what I'm talking about. Let him finish right there. Let him finish. You did. I'm sorry, but but what I would say was we was disappointed out certain things, even like for myself, when I was talking about, throughout the year, what can city has struggled with. They may not struggle with it at the moment, but throughout the year they didn't have a number one rival, see, but they still don't, and they had a lot of drop balls.
REMY :And that was.
TJ:That was what Patrick Mahone was crying about Every time you understand what I'm saying. Yes but just so happened. Like you said, they beat the ravers and I picked the Kansas City. I'll be the ravers. Damon know, and I and Damon know how I feel when it comes to Lamar in big games. He couldn't win them, like I said before in high school, couldn't win them college and damn sure ain't gonna do it in the NFL. And then it comes down to hardball, the coach. Hardball is horrible, he is horrible.
Damond :We've all been saying get horrible out there. We've been saying that for years.
KELSEY :Where's that narrative coming from? Why don't we have that conversation?
REMY :now. Why not? Why not have that conversation? No, no, no, no.
Damond :I've been saying every uh. So I've been saying about this thing with hardball because, again, remember, you're the head coach, right? You hear everything that comes in this headset. You hear every call, every play, every this, you got every red say, hey, I don't like that, go back to operating butter. What are you doing? Let's go to operating butter. Get back to what we need to know. Everything comes through the headset, remember you'd hit go, okay, let's go. Let's go to the 49ers and um, an alliance.
TJ:Sure, we came to the script. We we kept one, the ball.
Damond :Two plays he should have did and the outcome would have been different up there, because it was six points, fourth and two. What'd he do? He went for it. He went for it instead of taking the points. That's six points. That's not there because, remember, the trick went down late, scored a touchdown. That game would have been over, it would have been over, but what he didn't do was take the points.
KELSEY :He did it against Dallas that was two yeah the thing is that was two, that's right.
Damond :Yeah, because remember, when they called it back, kick that, kick that extra point, just kick the extra point. No, you want to try to go for it again. That was six points. He took off that game because, remember, again the trick went down and scored a touchdown. The game would have been 37, 34, they would have been over, but he didn't. And what did the 49ers do? Made them pay for it. They made them pay for it. The defense started homing in a little bit more and they did what they needed to do game was hey same thing they're gonna do to miss kelsey team.
KELSEY :I'm with it. I love it. I love it.
Damond :That would be great. If you appeal on the Super Bowl uh show, finally I'll get my co-host on this Super Bowl show. I mean that would be great. Don't make it may. You will appeal on the Super Bowl show, so everybody will rep their team because there's gonna be a winner, there's gonna be a loser.
REMY :That's right. We didn't.
Damond :We didn't get chance to finish talking about this 49ers game and I'm gonna hop in on it and and I wish Dave was still on here because I was texting Dave back and forth and I said Dave, I said what's going on with your team? Man, he was like man. He said I don't think we're gonna win this game. I said David ain't over. I said let's see what happens in the second half. And sure enough, they brought it back and I was like and I text, I called him. I said Dave, but he, he was busy. He said he was on the floor.
TJ:But I text every 49ers fan.
Damond :I knew I forgot the text. You were in me on it and I was telling congratulations, congratulations, congratulations, because they've all one time on ever came through this show. So it by comments are on screen and I was telling them congratulations, congratulations. I said, hey, y'all there, we're not. It is what, it is, guess what let's look forward to next season. But they're there, they played their game and they got it done.
REMY :They're going to Vegas. We all played our game, that's it. We just Get to Vegas.
KELSEY :Let me get this. Let me get the teams do the talking. Let me let me get this out the way. I Love me. Some 49ers fans, unlike a lot of Philadelphia Eagles fans I do. Okay, I know I'm contrary to the belief, but it's cool. Let me tell you something about y'all 49ers fans. Okay, well, y'all are not gonna do is Pulling up the way that y'all did on Sunday. That was. I've never seen a fan base. That was, I mean the Eves and flows, all game More. And I'm just I'm sitting there quiet. You know, I'm watching the game because my job now it's my job. I gotta watch the game. I gotta tell how I see it right. And then I got 49ers texting me talking about man man. Brock Perry was a garbage anyway. We didn't want him. We didn't need him. Man, this team is, this team is. I was getting the whole nine. You want to know what I got was all all them zeros hit.
REMY :Hey, what's going on, man? What's going on. How about those 49ers? What's up, man, and you know?
KELSEY :what I'm about. Sick and tired of y'all.
TJ:I don't know who that was, but they wasn't faithful.
KELSEY :It wasn't they wasn't faithful.
TJ:Now listen 18, 18, 8. I can show you a text on my phone. So somebody called me. We was down 21, 7. I said listen. I said don't worry about it. Second half, we're gonna make adjustments.
Dave :So he said better hunt it.
TJ:I said better hunting. We was down 21, 7. See, I knew it's gonna make adjustments. Oh, it's just like boxing, you know, for people like you got to make adjustments. That's why turns Crawford is the best pound-for-pound fighter out there, because he can make adjustments on the whim. And that's what they did.
REMY :Yeah, same thing with my home and the chiefs they make adjustments.
Damond :They didn't want to play okay.
REMY :Number 11 been dropping balls all season long his ball. Oh, oh, oh, oh, baby, oh my god, even with him, and they did what they needed to do, even with him. And if you don't think that I don't know what to tell you, Can I, can, I, can I bring you in on this one.
KELSEY :Would you go ahead? You're it, would you? Would you believe me if I told you that they didn't score a single point in the second half?
TJ:They didn't. Now it don't matter.
REMY :So the Ravens down, and they still.
TJ:Now, there we go with the default. You got a fumble there and all that, just don't they.
REMY :I've been shooting defaults the whole time. What about that? What about that?
Damond :Look, hey, you've been shooting fumbles the whole time, not default.
Dave :Yeah fun, oh, hey so.
REMY :Just one go chief.
TJ:Let me ask you this Let me ask you this so do you think y'all can go in the second half and not score no points?
REMY :get a 49 to win no we did it with the Ravens, absolutely. Come around you 49ers better put they might we try to keep it interesting.
Damond :I got you. Nobody knows how to work that phone. Hold on since another Kansas City fan was coming here now okay. Because any link I sent out works.
KORY:Listen, man, listen, it didn't work. It didn't work, it didn't work, oh no, it worked.
Damond :That's that cheap phone. You got every everybody here to got a link. It worked, except your phone. Now, all of a sudden, 40 minutes later, the link seems to work.
Dave :I.
KORY:Got different.
Damond :I got the same link, and all you had to do was Because, that is because that is that link. Operator error. But again you got the floor. Go ahead. See, that's what I talk about. Operator.
KORY:Everybody want to talk about what we don't have, a what they got, a what the problem is and all this, but at the end of the day, like it is, we had a super I don't think anybody that has been on here has disagreed with that.
Damond :No one on here is disagree with that you know what, you know what, that we Already. No one has bad mouth to chiefs Now one person on here as bad mouth to chiefs. We're just identifying problems of why they're there and water 49ers got there, that's it.
TJ:Well, he, well, he's down like a piss. One of them, pittsburgh fans. Well, we got six rings.
KELSEY :What more do you want?
REMY :Not you, and it is not personal. Everybody was coming towards me, not you again what we explained.
Damond :We were identifying issues in the games that we saw. No more with no less. What you did was this came back, but we this, but we that, always this. Oh no, it's not about that. You're in the Super Bowl, that's fine. 49ers are in the Super Bowl, that's fine. What we're identifying is issues with the games and we're saying that if them issues Don't get corrected, then the chiefs, they probably not gonna win the Super Bowl.
REMY :You didn't come. Nothing for the 49ers, so the 49ers walking up there, perfect but wait a minute.
Damond :We even get a chance to talk about the game we.
TJ:Already made adjustments and all they gonna do no, no, no, we was talking about the 49ers and make adjustments for the second, you say the 49ers.
REMY :He's got the chiefs, but okay.
TJ:I mean, but we were talking when you was texting getting carpett tunnel. That's what he was saying. Hey, I'm mad. The energy.
Damond :And that's what we hear for matching energy.
REMY :Wait a minute, hey.
Damond :Mike, I didn't know you was a 49ers fan.
REMY :Because the chiefs and the 49ers are going up against each other, made a best team win. It is what it is. Game is going to speak now. We're talking it up to the game. Let the, let the team speak for itself. That's what we talking it up to okay, so I want to hear about all that let's stop hearing about it.
Damond :Let's talk about it. Why?
REMY :May or may not.
Damond :Kelsey, answer the question. Who do you feel? Has a better team on paper.
REMY :No, they don't on paper. The 49er does.
TJ:On paper with the players, surrounding all the players.
Damond :Does that matter. Yeah, we just asked the question how many all-pro's?
KORY:y'all got 49s.
KELSEY :We're doing this by all pros. Are you serious? All right, let me make this easy for everybody. Let me make this easy. Yeah, let's make this easy, cuz I can't be worth selling this in the chat.
Damond :He said nine the 49ers in the chat.
KELSEY :Okay, okay, all right, encfully, Do you want that quarterback court? Nobody.
TJ:Perti, okay, I like my home 31, my home's one.
KELSEY :Come on Damon, come on man, what we got. Who out of the better quarterback? Who would you rather have? Who's the better quarterback? My home's would be okay would be so okay. So that's quarterback, right. Hey coach, who would you rather have, andy Reed or Kyle Shanahan?
TJ:Shanahan.
Damond :Quit playing with your home bro.
KELSEY :Okay, so, so just.
Damond :Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me give you answer for that and let me tell you why I'm picking Shanahan. This is reason why I'm picking Shanahan. Okay, but what Kyle Shanahan has done when? When he was down in Atlanta Offensive court, near down there, right yeah, I'll do great plays. Yes, went all the way through, right, he went to Frisco. He dials up great plays. Now let's go back to Andy Reed. Let's take this back to Philly, right?
Dave :Go back all the way to.
Damond :Philly, he does play calls right, but he just couldn't get it right when he went to Kansas City?
Dave :What?
Damond :was this X factor? My home's? What's his X factor? So I take Shanahan okay.
KELSEY :Quarterback and head coach. I'm not even gonna factor in the weapons. The 49ers would override the Kansas City In that regard. Am I off of that? No, I'm gonna say you off from that. Okay. So that's quarterback head coach. Who has the better weapon?
KORY:About man. Y'all talk a crazy nonsense.
TJ:Okay, so, so so you should have went to every position. Who has a better running back?
KELSEY :Oh, but you know it would take a whole number show. You know, you know yeah. I'm just talking about three weapons right now. Who would you rather have?
KORY:I ain't gonna say y'all got a better running back, y'all got a picture running back.
Damond :I'll say that they got a beast of a running back. Technically should be in VP of the league.
TJ:So what the check-off, what the check-off, the check-off is good, oh, but check was good with he's not McCaffrey, he's not McCaffrey.
KELSEY :And that's okay, by the way. No, san Francisco has the weapons. San Francisco as a coach, I think that's fair right, okay, okay, okay.
KORY:I'll say just go have the better receivers.
TJ:I'll say that 49ers, 49ers, okay, so no brainer again, so on paper paper, paper, paper.
KELSEY :The 49ers have the better overall the matchup is not even no no the 49ers in the Ravens will be a closer matchup than the 49ers in the cheese right now. If I don't think I'm talking about one thing, tell me when I'm telling lies. Tell me when I'm telling lies. I'm pretty sure if you know what, you don't get that matchup because they sitting at home talking about it oh my word, I'm pretty sure if it was the Ravens and the 49ers in the Super Bowl two weeks time, we would be like man.
Damond :This is about as even as, even to get right, because it wouldn't have been the same outcome as it was in Santa Clara. It probably would have been a field goal, one or two points. Hey, hey, it's not and we're not worried about that y'all just had.
KORY:The Ravens had the best defense, allegedly, allegedly. And look what?
Damond :happened. Okay, that was the Raven you going to the 49ers you going to go.
TJ:We want y'all to do so we talked about the 49ers.
Damond :The Ravens issue is over. We talked about the 49ers. We're talking about the matchup between the chiefs and the 49ers. That's it, and what we've been saying is you tip toe and then tap dancing past these questions because you want to keep talking about the Ravens.
KORY:I'm going to tell you, like this same thing forward to February 11th.
Damond :You will keep tap dancing and right now the 49ers have the better matchup on paper than the Kansas City Chiefs it is what it is we got to.
TJ:We got to sit a link to some real football fans man and no sports man. First of all, who is we?
REMY :we got to wait.
TJ:As long as Damon got a link, I got a link as long as we got a link.
Damond :You've been playing hard for the whole thing, my brother Remy. You know we here, we ain't Remy, you know it. I know it.
KORY:This is sad man all I know is hey, damon, you need to add dresses to them.
Damond :Crab cakes oh no, I got it already. I lost my bet, I honor all my bets. Any bet I take and ask Remy, I honor all my bets. If I took a bet with you, I honor my bet, just like I wore that brown bag on my show. When the steal is won, I honor my bet. This is what we're going to do, but this is what we're going to do made a best team win. 49ers are repping their teams, kansas City repping their teams.
TJ:I got the business from my family up there let me ask you this hey, damon, so are you going live right after the Super Bowl?
Damond :I'm probably going to be up at Maryland live watching the game, so I might shoot out there.
TJ:I might shoot out there with you, okay, alright.
KELSEY :I'll let you know where we'll be sitting at so yeah, I'll let you know where we'll be sitting at, so that's where.
Damond :I'm going to be at. If I had my portable stuff I would have went live from Maryland live. But I won't have my portable stuff. But this is what we're going to do on that Monday. That Monday, six o'clock after the Super Bowl, I will be live six o'clock on Monday after the Super Bowl. I'll be live, no matter if you won or lost, come to this show.
REMY :I want to tell you is you better, make sure you send me a link. I don't want to hear none of that, remy. No, send me a link we'll show up.
TJ:We're going to send you a $49 jersey so you can pull off the live show.
REMY :You're not sending me nothing. You're not sending me nothing.
TJ:I'm going to send you the link.
REMY :Damon, my boo is going to send me the link. That's who's going to send me the?
Damond :link listen let me wind this show down let me wind this show down.
Dave :I'm going to give my little final thoughts on here because I'm not at his limit.
Damond :I'm going to give this. This is funny. This is funny. My brown bags this is who my brown bags go to. This is who my brown bags go to.
TJ:I'm just giving out one brown bag, and that's what it is.
Damond :The whole goddamn state up there in Missouri.
KELSEY :And here's the reason why because you get a brown bag.
Damond :So I'm just trolling your back with a brown bag. I'm giving y'all a brown bag just for all that trolling. But I love every bit of it. I love the memes. I love when y'all was talking trash to me. I love when y'all called me. I love all the social media stuff. I love everything.
REMY :Oh, y'all goddamn up there get a brown bag for me. That's my brown bag for the chat. Whatever you just make sure you got that.
KELSEY :Uh, hey boo, what's up?
KORY:that's what you do, okay right down there, marilyn Lai, here's that brown bag.
REMY :It's full of championships, hey cool it's only two, oh my god okay now you're going down play at what is what's on the. I mean, the whole time all y'all been doing is hating putting your friends. How many you got? Bro? You're sitting on the couch, mr it's only two and I'm going to wrap the cheese, I don't care what y'all talking about. I want to say what y'all want to say actually there's three let the teams speak for itself when they play. I don't want to hear no excuses. I don't want your number.
REMY :I don't know raps I don't want to hear no excuse. That's what I don't want to hear. I don't want to hear no excuse. I don't want to hear no excuse you ain't close enough my.
KELSEY :I'll pro you my brown bag is going to go to fans yeah.
KORY:I'll let you get that y'all sliders.
KELSEY :Oh my gosh haters, what you call it, what you call it Remy yeah that's what's going on. So my brown bag is going to go to none other than Dan Campbell, because I'm not going to lie if he didn't make those calls the way he was supposed to and not treat it like it was a game of Madden. We might be having a conversation with the Detroit Lions being in the Super Bowl and not the 49ers, but it is what it is.
KELSEY :I feel like any opportunity that you had to put once on the board against a team like Sam Flisco and you close, not to, you get by far the biggest. And this is my special brown bag, brown bag to finish off NFC and ASC championship weekend. You, sir, just do it man. Yeah, I did that on the spot.
Damond :Ladies and gentlemen, yeah, oh my god, thank you for everyone that tuned and did the show all your comments, no matter where you was listening from away, where you tuned into even Instagram. Thank y'all so much and I've seen a couple people that was on Instagram, so thank y'all, I'm logging off Monday February 12th. We live 6pm after the Super Bowl. Mike, I'll send you a inbox by YouTube, mike alright we see y'all later.
REMY :Bye.