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NFC North Showdown: Lions' Ascendancy, Vikings' Resilience, and Eagles-Commanders Controversy Unleashed
Can the NFC North get any more electrifying? Hear all about the suspenseful battle for supremacy as the Lions and Vikings duke it out for the top seed, while Green Bay lurks in the background, ready to spring a surprise. We'll share our take on Detroit's remarkable rise despite setbacks and how Minnesota's relentless pursuit keeps the tension alive. It's a fascinating narrative of strategy, resilience, and sheer willpower that sets the stage for an unforgettable playoff picture in the NFC North.
But there's more to the NFL than just standings, and we take you through the rollercoaster of games that saw the Eagles-Commanders clash stir controversy with contentious officiating. Expect passionate debates about division rivalry unpredictability, the highs and lows of player performances like Saquon Barkley's record chase, and the playoff potentials for teams like the Bengals and Colts. We even toss in some light-hearted analogies and humor along the way, ensuring this episode is packed with the unpredictable essence of the game that keeps us all hooked.
The Power of the Power, of the Power of the Power of. Oh man, look who it is and look who is back. You know, life be lifin', things be happenin'. We had some tragedies and we've had some sad times. This has just gotten in the way a little bit for us being on here. But guess what? We here. And we are here with a new year eve day special podcast. Your boys, ek thomas over there, tj dk and tree podcast.
D.K:We're on the air and when I can say I am happy to be back, I'm happy to be back oh, my god, I am happy to be back and on this day of going out last day of the year, yeah, we're gonna get this one on and popping. There's a lot of things we missed, a lot of things we discussed. I've been missing the wrap-ups because of work and all of the lifey things that have been happening. But let me jump on week 16 here real fast and get this out the way Now. All the Steelers fans, y'all did get some shine because we haven't been here since the Steelers beat us. But I'm going to give you a shine if you come through, because y'all beat us on that first game, but we put a shitlack in y'all in the second game 34-17. Packers goose egg the Saints 34-0. Let's see Cowboys beat the Bucs 26-24. Wow, they still holding on Cowboys. Patriots the Bills 24-21 over the Patriots. You see, dolphins beat the 49ers 29-17. Raiders over the Jaguars the Raiders what? 1940, vikes beat the Seahawks, and we're going to talk about the Vikes too, okay, 27-24. Let's see Panthers beat the Cards 36-30. What the hell is going on here, commanders? Oh yeah, we're going to talk about this game. Commanders beat the Eagles 36-33. But there was a lot of refs that was involved in that game I got a lot to say about that one. Let's see Colts beat the Titans 38-30. Let's see Lions oh yeah, they just tearing the fur off people 34-17 over the Bears. Falcons beat the Giants 34-7. Bengals beat the Browns 24-6. Let's see Rams beat the Jets 19-9. The Chiefs beat the Texans barely, that was just it, yeah, 27-19. And Chargers beat the Broncos 34-17.
D.K:Week 17 action. I'm trying to catch up, we're trying to catch up here. Ravens, oh my God, beat the. He breaks off the texans 31, 2. But here's another one the lions and the 49ers. That was just last night. 40 to 34 commanders went in overtime and beat the falcons 30, 24. Bikes 27 25. But man, this thing between the vikings and the lions, this is getting crazy. 214 and two teams, and one's a wild card and one's in first place. Oh my goodness, that's crazy. Let's see Dolphins beat the Browns 23. Raiders beat again. The Raiders won another game. What? 25-10 over the Saints Bills put some whacking on Uncle Aaron 40-14.
D.K:But this is the one that got me the most. The Giants put 45 points up on the Colts. What, what Eagles? 41-7 over the Cowboys, the Alice Cowgirls, alice Cowgirls, man.
D.K:Yeah yeah, Let me see Jaguars 20-13 over Tennessee, over the billion-dollar team, Rams 13-9 over the Cards, Cincinnati oh, that was a bomb burner, with the Broncos Went in overtime to the side there, 30-24. Chargers 40-7 over the Patriots, Seahawks 6-3 over the Patriots 6-3?. I was in Vegas watching that game and the Chiefs they beat the Steelers 29-10. Steelers just been going downhill, haven't they Steelers?
T.J:have been going downhill.
D.K:Where do you want to start? How?
T.J:about that. Wow, there's been a lot.
D.K:A lot going on.
T.J:I'm going to let you I'm going to let you get your Insight on the the whole. I'm going to let you get your insight on just the whole NFC North conversation. We just talked about the Vikings and the Lions going for number one seed next week, sunday night football. Just you know, share with everybody what your thoughts are for that game and just the division entirely, because just the way that this whole season has planned out for most of the teams aside from the Bears has been impeccable. What's your, what's your thoughts on?
D.K:it okay, okay. So, as it started out, detroit the juggernaut has been the juggernaut and they've just been like, okay, man, we're finding a way to win, matter of fact, we're just going to put it up on your head, we're going to throw trick plays, we're going to give it to our big old offensive lineman to even score a touchdown. They've been finding I wouldn't even say finding a way to win. They've been whipping people, they've been beating the brakes off of them, beating the brakes off of them left and right. And when I tell you, detroit ain't nothing to play with, and even with the injuries that they have had, it's been something else. And with Detroit just doing their thing and just vibing and just rolling, and even with the injuries that Detroit has had, they have still managed to have just been playing and has been just whipping up on people and they've just been beating the brakes off everybody. Then look at Minnesota. Minnesota's like, oh, okay, detroit, that's what you're doing, we're going to one-up you, we're going to keep on coming back. And then Minnesota's like, okay, we're going to whip you, we're going to find a way to win, we're going to do this. Oh, but wait, but wait. Green Bay said, hey, don't forget about us. We're about us. We're still down here too. So we're gonna, we're gonna whip up on you, we're gonna get some wins and guess what? You're not gonna leave us out.
D.K:The conversation and that whole division, other than the bears, other than the bears, they just been waxing. So you got three teams out of one conference, three teams out of one conference. That's in the playoffs. And this game between Detroit and Minnesota next week is just ridiculous. Yeah, you know something? I'm going to give the edge to Minnesota because they're not hurt like Detroit is. But if there's any way, anyone that can find a way to win, it's Detroit. That's right, because Dan Campbell is just off the chain and he will find a way for his people to win. Okay, let's go to the 49ers game last night. Look at that. They found a way to win their defense.
D.K:I thought Purdy was playing for Detroit. The way he was throwing passes to him, right, exactly, it was a practice, right, like, oh, let me just throw this straight to you. I mean, it wasn't a defender, nowhere near, and Purdy's throwing balls. So I'm like, what is this pitching catch to Detroit? And then you looking all upset on the sidelines. This, like I said that whole them, whole three. I don't know what's going to happen, but that game between Minnesota and the Vikings, like I said, if it's anybody that can find a way to win, it's Detroit. But I'm not sure if they're going to be able to match up what Minnesota's going to do, but they won the last contest against them. That's right. So, and that was close, yeah, yeah, that was close, that went down to a field goal.
T.J:So I mean, I I don't know. I'll be honest, this is a toss up game and I don't think you can go wrong with either team. I really don't, I think, with Detroit. My personal issue with them is obviously the health on defense, because I feel like there's a bunch of guys that we don't know about that's playing right now because of the injuries, that we don't know about that's playing right now because of the injuries. But it's one of those cases, man, where it's just I don't know Like you got Minnesota who. It's been a while since they've lost a game. Yes, Detroit as well. So, like these teams are, they're getting more and more impressive by the game. Detroit as well, these teams are getting more and more impressive by the day. It'll be interesting to see what happens for that game on Sunday night.
D.K:It really is what fitting way is to have it on Sunday night football. You to have it on Sunday night football. You should have it on Sunday night football. That's going to be one of the greatest games, I think, of all time. But, like I said, and I think they're playing in Detroit, aren't they? Yes, in.
D.K:Detroit, oh, even better, you know they're going to be off the chain up there Off the chain, so I really don't know. Even better, you know they're gonna be off the chain up there off the chains, so they, I, I, I really don't know, because you still can't count out the packers even being a wild card. That's right. The packers have a lot more better health than what detroit has. Minnesota has a lot more better health than what detroit has. Right, they was talking about agent hutchinson trying to get back, but you're not gonna get back from a broken leg.
T.J:Such a long shot, man. You don't get to have the horrific injury that he had and think that you're going to just have him come back. I know he's pushing for the Super Bowl, but that is a long shot. Even if they were to make it, it would still be risky to play him in that game. It just is, with the kind of injury that he had. So I would just immediately rule that out.
T.J:That's not even in the equation Now if we're talking about David Montgomery, a guy who, I mean it was a sprained MCL. If I'm not mistaken, it was some sort of knee issue. Could he mess around and come back? Maybe, I mean, but even then it's like I don't know. I really don't know.
D.K:Yeah, I know I forgot. I've both been wearing a shirt, both been wearing a podcast shirt. I know I forgot, that's on me, that's on me. I was just so excited that we was getting back in the podcast. Sure, I know I forgot, that's on me, that's on me. I was just so excited that we were getting back on air.
D.K:I'm happy about that. But no, dave Montgomery man, I mean, dave was talking about what I think they have. What 16 players? That's her. They don't. The skeleton grew over there. Skeleton crew in Detroitroit. Don't get me wrong, and I ride with detroit, I do. If they're not playing the ravens, I'm riding with them. I'm like if I had a favorite sec team, detroit would be that favorite second team, detroit. It's just amazing of what they've done dan camel has done up there and for somebody that was homegrown because he used to play for Detroit, he played for them. So he knows the insides, the outs, he knows how his team works, he's like nah, I'm going to put a great system up here together. So that's going to be a big, big game. But man, if Minnesota just jumped right out the gate with them, it depends on what Minnesota's defense can do to stop Detroit. Yeah, like I said three points last time. Three points. So I don't know, man, I don't know.
T.J:I might have to give the edge to Minnesota too, just because Detroit has too many injuries on defense. I think the last time they played even the players that they had then and this was earlier on in the season, so Aiden was playing A lot of the guys they had were still playing in their front seven. That went down to three. So even then, with them having the players that they had, it was a close game. I think with the roster they have now on defense, this could turn out to be a blowout, and if it gets to that point, I don't know what else there is to say. I never thought that I would ever see a 14-win team as a five seed.
D.K:A five seed and a wild card.
T.J:Yeah, that is unbelievable. And I saw something yesterday. I was listening to a podcast and they brought up about the the two teams having the the buy in the playoffs versus the team just having one. And me personally, I I got both sides right. I understood why they wanted to have that seven playoff team, because back then there was a lot of teams that were 10 games, nine games, that honestly could perform better than the teams that were already in the playoffs, and that seventh team was a chance for you know, that 10 win team or that nine win team to squeak in.
T.J:Now, it doesn't automatically mean that that seventh seed ends up winning the. It never happened, but just that possibility was there because you wanted to have the extra game. You wanted to make getting the number one seed very important. I got that. At the same time, though, I didn't have a problem with them having two teams getting a first round bye, because those two teams have one of, if not the best, records in the entire NFL. Four of the 32 teams in the NFL have the best records in the NFL. There's no disputing it.
T.J:There's no denying that. It's like when you see the Vikings and the Lions play on Sunday and it's a 14-win team going against a 14-win team and the loser goes to the 5 seed, like that is the 5 seed. That's kind of crazy. But the thing is that even if you win, you know, even if I mean either way, they would have been in the wild card. The loser would have been in the wild card anyway, because the first four are division winners. Yes, so unfortunately, no matter what setup, no matter what format it would have been, it still would be the same scenario. It just sucks that that second overall seed on both conferences don't get. You know, that same buy, like the first round was due. But I mean, I get both sides of it, I really do, it's just. It just kind of sucks in scenarios like this where it's like man, two teams can't get a rest. They don't deserve it.
D.K:Right, we done had a great, great season. And you're telling me we're a wild card. Yeah, oh, my goodness. But all eyes are going to be on that game. Every last body is going to be on that game. But let me say this Congratulations to Saquon Barkley. He hit that 2,000. The Bird Gang has been doing it. I got to give you props. Your team beat the whole AFC North.
T.J:I tried to tell you man, I tried Listen. I would say in that game.
D.K:Listen, listen, listen. I would say in that game we had a meltdown and we blew that game plain and simple, because we kept the Eagles on the sideline damn near the whole second half and it just needed that little bit of time to come in and beat us and that's what happened and we just wasn't able to recover from it. You know mental mistakes we're still doing. We're the most penalized team in the league. Most penalized team in the league. You know, with the false thoughts, the pre-snap motions, with the illegal formations, we still have an illegal formation. We still we're the most penalized team. So we hurt ourselves in that game. So I can say congratulations again to the Philadelphia Eagles. You beat the whole AFC North, we got three out of four, we won three out of four and you handed Lamar his second loss to that conference, deservedly so. The Giants and the Eagles.
T.J:Deservedly so. The Giants part we would have never guessed, but this feels like a legitimate first team for Lamar to lose to in the conference. It feels right.
D.K:I've given him props because, hey, saquon was a beast in that game too, because we still didn't have our defense really together. So I have to give it to the Eagles and, hey, congratulations on that. Like I said, just trying to catch up on some things. Now I'm going to talk about that Eagles-Commanders game because I didn't think anybody from Kansas City was playing that game. The way the refs swayed that game Now y'all can throw shade at me all you want to, I don't care the refs swayed that game towards Washington Because the division should have been won in that game by the Eagles.
D.K:And those egregious fouls. I'm like how commanders knock somebody's helmet off, but the eagles get the flag. Give me a break, wait, wait. I I'm just saying I. I call a spade a spade. That was a spade when we start knocking people's helmets off. But I get the flag and I'm just standing there. My helmet was knocked off. Why I get the flag?
T.J:yeah, I, and honestly I my whole face turned up at the beginning of the game before all the recklessness happened when jalen Hurts, on a scramble, was going to the ground, got hit with a helmet-to-helmet hit Like it was clear as day. I don't know how many replays was needed and there wasn't a flag thrown. He gets tossed out with a concussion. He has yet to play again. We don't even know like. I'm pretty sure hopefully he plays in the playoffs, but chances are that play wasn't ending in a flag, wasn't a penalty.
T.J:And once I saw that happening, I was like, oh, we're kind of screwed, no matter how many points we score, no matter how many touchdowns we get because how do you not call that? That was like blatant. Because how do you not call that? That was like blatant. It was a head-to-head hit. Whether he was a runner running back, a wide receiver like you hit him in the head. And once I saw that happen, it was kind of like all right, well, I guess we need to just wait for something chaotic to happen. And that's literally what it was. We were screwed ever since then. Pickett couldn't even throw past five yards half the time. It was rough, it was really rough, and it still ended up being a close game, which was shocking.
D.K:Yeah, hey, division games. You just never know how they go. Division games, that's how they roll division games. Like I said, I thought the Kansas City Chiefs was playing the way those wrestlers throwing that laundry on the field. And you know how we feel about the chiefs. We always talk about it. You know you do something wrong. They throwing every game hit you, the chiefs do it. Nothing's happening. We didn't see that. We didn't see that at all. I'm like passing the don't apply to that. Just like in the texas game with the chiefs, how how he get offensive passing interference and we they was like, well, where was it? Where was the offensive passing interference? Yeah, yeah it's crazy I don't get it.
D.K:I, I really don't get it. But like, like I said, you know, eagles, they all lost that game, but that was a lot from the ref's hands. You want to come talk to me about it? I got time, I can talk about it, but that was a travesty of justice. A travesty of justice because of the simple fact that your division should have been locked up or whatever. Yeah, it is funny, it is. It was a travesty of justice. They got ripped off. So, man, I, oh, my goodness, what, what else? What else did y'all rebound from that? What was the second game y'all played after that?
T.J:man, we just finished playing. We just finished playing d.
D.K:Oh yeah, the whipping y'all put on them.
T.J:Yeah, I just want to put this out there about the whole Saquon thing. Look, we talked about this beforehand. Remove the fact that I'm an Eagles fan out of it. Okay, as a fan of the NFL and as a fan of greatness entirely, he needs to get that record this weekend.
D.K:He has to. I totally agree with you. I totally agree with you.
T.J:I don't think that there needs to be a back and forth about it. Now I would have I would have a totally different viewpoint if he was actually further away, like if he needed, like I don't know, 200 yards or something like that. That's different. It's like, okay, let's just rest him, get ready for playoffs. Whatever, this record has been standing for 25 years, 25 years, 25 years, okay.
D.K:And and there has been.
T.J:A lot of running backs has gotten really close, the closest being adrian peterson, being nine yards shy. He was that close on that mvp season. It it was all his and he didn't get it. And I remember as young as I was when he got to 2,000 yards, mark, I remember that game that he played, how, even though they won that game, it was still kind of bittersweet because he didn't get the record and he was that close. And so I'm like let's not have history repeat itself. I think it's very sweet to have St Claude. It's one thing for him to get the record, I just think it is the ultimate middle finger to the New York Giants. Oh yeah, absolutely. You know what? I thought, that I was worth value to this franchise. Apparently not you. Let me walk, that's fine. I'm going to go to a team in division. I'm going to not only get the record but I'm going to get the record against y'all at home in Philly.
T.J:And I think the cherry on top and this is the part that I would be laughing until the day I die is he breaks a record right and the Giants win that game. Let's say the final score is 14 to three, something weird like that. Like we're like man, we can't do nothing on offense, but Saquon's running the ball, it's on purpose. Guys, let's have Saquon get the record, take them out right, rest him and have the Giants win the game.
T.J:The Giants win, they go out of the top five in the draft because of their incompetence and that is like a cherry on top of like.
D.K:it doesn't you can't write a better story than that.
T.J:I'm being honest, you can't write a better story than that. The guy that you decide to give up on plays your team Right. Yeah, we lose to y'all, but that's because we have nothing to play for. And he gets the record. And not only that, we lost to y'all, so that way y'all can get out of the top five. Have fun Like that would be so poetically great. I don't care what we do. The out of the top five. Have fun. That would be so poetically great, I don't care what we do the rest of the season. That would be awesome. I would always laugh about it To my grave. It would never end. Every time somebody wants to try to poke fun at the Eagles, I'll say we were a part of a team that had a running back that made a franchise do two things at one time, and they both made history in doing so, and we had fun while doing it. I would always, always find the joy in that, always.
D.K:Yeah, yeah, I would too, and I know I'm not the only one.
T.J:That would be completely hilarious, hey you know, I know I'm not the only one.
D.K:We gotta check on Dave Cause it's 49ers. We gotta check on Dave Gotta. Make sure I check on Dave Cause the 49ers is just yeah, he's not.
D.K:We definitely gotta check on Dave, because the 49ers is just not. Yeah, he's not. Yeah, we definitely got to check on Dave with the 49ers. But you know something though Like I said, congratulations to the Eagles on winning that division. You know it's just now. We're up. All we got to do is beat Cleveland, because you know them last three games, that three-game stretch for the Steelers just wasn't good for them, was it? I think?
T.J:we kicked it off, we talked about it at the beginning of the year. It was like that stretch was brutal and this was before everything happened. Like we didn't even know what different injuries were going to happen, how the Steelers were going to do or the other teams that they had to play against. Like we did not know a single thing. We saw that schedule and it was like this is kind of rough, that's going to be hard.
D.K:That's hard for the whole AFC North, that's hard and they went downhill. But as I preached, and as preached, and I said this, if you put pressure on Russell Wilson, he just caves. He don't even try to get out of it. That's the difference between him and Justin Fields. At least Fields is going to scramble out of there and try to find something. Russ, he said pressure coming, he just caves. Now he has escaped some pressure. I have to give it to him. He has escaped a lot of pressure from a lot of things.
D.K:But when you start playing those household name teams like let's go with Kansas City because they wore him out, kansas City wore him out, they wore him out and Chris Jones wasn't even in the game, wasn't? And Chris Jones wasn't even in the game? Mm-hmm, chris Jones wasn't even in the game, other people was getting to him, right, and it just shows, okay, your offense is not that good, even with Pickens in the game. Even with Pickens in the game. Now, don't get me wrong, pickens is a beast, a beast. He threw. Don't get me wrong, pickens is a beast, a beast. He threw some of the passes up. I did not think that he would catch that ball and he was catching them balls and I was like you got to be kidding me. You got to be kidding me. But again, when you start going up against these powerhouse teams, it's like, okay, we're going to put this defense on you and we're going to see if you can stop us. And he couldn't. They were getting pressured on him, they were sacking him and whatever.
D.K:Even when it came to the Baltimore game and he was looking good, I was like, oh, here we go. And he was looking good. I was like, oh, here we go. Score is tied 17-17. And he runs that ball down that field trying to go for the touchdown slide. And who did he get? Popped by Kyle Van Nooyen Bumble. That was the whole momentum changer of the whole game, whole momentum changer. And Lamar goes down right. That was that damn pick. But remember, we talked about this and I said that's not on Lamar, that's on Bateman, because Bateman stopped on that route Because it was a crosser. And Lamar threw it thinking Bateman was going to be there. And what was his name? Fitzgerald Fitzpatrick. Somebody picked the ball off right, minka.
T.J:Fitzpat oh, minka, minka Fitzpatrick, minka Fitzpatrick.
D.K:Yeah, minka Fitzpatrick. So intercepts the ball. Okay, back in business. Two plays later, what happened? Russ gets out of pressure, throws the ball. Who's there? Marlon Humphrey Took the pass. Took the pass, took it from him and the game was over. After that we killed their will and ever since then that three-game stretch just was not good for them. So of course, in the war room, you know how they do, oh, you know, the Ravens y'all haven't really beat a reputable team.
T.J:Are you saying?
D.K:Steelers not a reputable team, y'all not a reputable team. Are you saying Steelers not a reputable team, y'all not a reputable team? Come on now, stop playing. We beat y'all, we beat y'all, y'all beat us, y'all beat us. I didn't make any excuses for that game we lost. Were there a lot of mistakes in the game? Yeah, it was, we lost. Okay, it is what it is. It is what it is. Take that L and keep it moving, because the Bengals are going to give you one too.
T.J:Hey, I know that they need some help. They do. It looks like they're still not going to make it If they end up getting in. I am not joking, Look out.
D.K:Oh, absolutely.
T.J:Look, I get it. The defense is bad, I get it. I don't care, I don't care. Joe Burrow, jamar Chase and.
T.J:T Higgins, that's all you need. Apparently it's ridiculous what they've been doing for the last two months now and, like I said, I know they need some help and chances are they're probably not going to get in. Which kind of sucks. But at the same time, this is what happens when you lose to New England week one and you lose to Kansas City week two and, like you, just have these games that you should have won.
D.K:They should have won that game.
T.J:Yeah, you should be winning some of these games. But you know, either way, let's hope and pray that they don't get in. They get in, it's going to be a problem.
D.K:I hope and pray they do get in. And here's a reason why and I've said this over plenty of times Cincinnati has always had Kansas City's number always. They've always. But you see, if they do get in, they're going to get in the last seed. That means they got to play Buffalo. That's the problem. They will have to play Buffalo. They will have to go to Buffalo. Now don't get me wrong. They've beaten Buffalo on their way to the Super Bowl.
T.J:But this is a different.
D.K:Buffalo squad yeah.
T.J:No, it's a different Buffalo squad, but if it's Cincinnati and Buffalo, it is not a sure thing that Buffalo wins that game. It really isn't, because if it becomes a shootout which it definitely can be, I don't know. I don't know who you would rather have other than Joe Burrow. I really don't.
D.K:I didn't send you the voicemail at all. Phone never rung. Well welcome so, but yeah, yeah. So I'm like it is what it is. It is what it is, but your repable teams. You already see how the playoff pitchers are playing out. This is what it is. It is what it is, but your reputable teams. You already see how the playoff pitch is playing out. This is what it is. No other teams matter right now. No other teams matter. Yeah, Thanks.
T.J:Captain.
D.K:So it is what it is. But, like I said, we jumped over here just for a quick second just talking about some things and getting that stuff wrapped up. But we probably just going to go ahead and jump off and I know my man got something to do. I got a couple of things I got to do. So you know something, I don't. I'm not giving out any brown bags.
T.J:No brown bags, I'm going to wait till no brown bag.
D.K:I'm going giving out any brown bags. No brown bags, no brown bags. I'm going to wait until week 18 to give out a brown bag.
T.J:You're so nice.
D.K:Yeah, I ain't going to give out no brown bags this week because I could give it to the Colts.
T.J:We'll lose it to the Giants for allowing the Giants to put four points up on we need to have a conversation about the Colts too, man, because that team is really you know you ever what's the perfect analogy for them? You ever see someone that you work with and you're like you work with them and you're like you know what. They're not all that bad. And then, when they're by themselves, you're like how did they get the job in the first place? It's like with them, it's like they have talent, they have pieces, they have Jonathan Taylor, they have michael pitman, they have these guys. And then it's like you watch the way that they played on sunday and just like it's the same thing.
D.K:What in the world happened?
T.J:yeah, like this. This is not the same team is it right?
D.K:who? Who are you guys? Yeah?
T.J:and it's we, we. We might need to start having a conversation, because I don't know how many years we've gone by and been like. You know what the coach is. A solid team. They have a chance to do x, y and z. If this, if that, there's only but so many years that you can keep doing that, um, and I don't know what the change is. Obviously the head coach is not the issue. Maybe quarterback, I don't know. Maybe you want to give him I don't know what the change is. Obviously the head coach is not the issue. Maybe quarterback, I don't know. Maybe you want to give him I don't know more reps, I don't know. I don't know what the case is, but something has to change and it might have to be in the front office, because yeah, that's where it probably has to start the front office.
T.J:That's and this is year in and year out. Like I'm like, oh, okay, colts doing pretty solid, okay, and then they have a game like Sunday and you're just like is that NFL football team?
D.K:Really.
T.J:Right, okay, like it's you know, so I said wait man. I'm not looking at this Right.
D.K:I said this can't be right. 45. They put 45 points.
T.J:Malik Neighbors was running around like he was Randy Moss and Justin Jefferson combined. I don't know what that was about, man, I really don't.
D.K:I think I figured it out. They all took some Red Bull and gave them wings. That's what it was.
T.J:Brutal.
D.K:Brutally true, brutally true, that's what happened.
T.J:That's what happened. That makes more sense.
D.K:Yeah, red Bull gave them wings. That's what it was. Ladies, gentlemen, whoever tuned in, thank you. Thank you so much. Last show of the year. We appreciate you. I definitely want to give a shout out to everyone around the world that's downloaded the show. We had an incredible surge of downloads. It was 90 in like seven days. Wherever you download this show, thank you, I appreciate you. I see Singapore. Y'all give us a lot of love, so I appreciate Singapore. A couple other countries in Africa download this show. Wherever you've downloaded the show, wherever you listen to the show, we appreciate you. We thank you. We thank you for your engagement. You can always send us messages. You can always come on the show. We appreciate you. We thank you. We thank you for your engagement. You can always send us messages. You can always come on the show. Youtube at dk and tree podcast. You will find us. You will find us. So again, thank you everyone. Happy new year to you. We will see you next year.
