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Ravens And Eagles Pitch Perfect
Two goose eggs, temps below zero, and a league that refuses to sort itself neatly—this week hits different. We open with Baltimore and Philly pitching rare shutouts in brutal conditions, then track the ripple effects across a suddenly wide-open AFC. With Mahomes sidelined and old powers slipping, we put a spotlight on Josh Allen’s moment: fewer obstacles, fewer excuses, and a window that won’t stay open long. If not now, when?
From there we pull threads that reveal the season’s true shape. Miami’s turbulence isn’t just about Tua; it’s about the hard math of guarantees, cap space, and what it takes to make speed travel in January. Cleveland’s wrong-wristband debacle becomes a case study in misaligned culture—how ownership, front office, and coaching can turn small mistakes into disasters. For a counterpoint, we look at Washington’s reset as proof that leadership can flip a franchise fast when standards change.
On the NFC side, Lions–Rams has become must-watch theater. Every meeting feels like a playoff game: star turns, razor-thin margins, and Dan Campbell’s relentless identity on full display. We unpack why consistency of philosophy—aggressive on fourth, belief in your guys—can be a competitive edge when the weather turns and the field shrinks. Sprinkle in the Steelers’ cold-weather swagger and injuries to key stars, and the bracket starts to look like a logic puzzle built to punish hesitation.
If you’re into sharp takes on culture, coaching identity, quarterback windows, and the real constraints of roster-building, this one’s for you. Hit play, subscribe for more unfiltered breakdowns each week, and drop your boldest postseason prediction in a review—who’s the real contender when the wind starts biting?
All right, all right, good evening, good evening, everyone. Good evening. Listen, when you when you have conversations, when you have conversations before you come on air and you just crack up about a whole bunch of other stuff, it's just be hilarious. This is a late edition of DK3 podcast. You know, it's DK over here, my boy TJ over there. Oh my God. Something else, I tell you. It makes me yeah, I can't wait to get back all day, okay? I gotta finish laughing. Oh listen, listen. You got you gotta have fun. You gotta have fun. You gotta have fun. Oh my god. You gotta have fun. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:God damn.
SPEAKER_03:Listen, man. Look, I gotta give us some props. I gotta give us some props right off the break. There's only two teams in the NFL. Two. Only two that pitched a shutout this weekend. And they the two teams that's on the screen. I just wanted to, I just wanted to make that known. We don't really shut out. Is it really?
SPEAKER_01:It's those two teams.
SPEAKER_03:The only two that pitched the shutout this weekend.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so let me get this straight. So the Baltimore Ravens and the missionary football team pitched the shutout.
SPEAKER_03:That really happened for real goose eggs. And if it wasn't for Zay Flowers dropping that pass in the end zone, I think he really didn't realize he didn't have that much more room in the back of the end zone, it would have been the same score 31-nothing for both teams. Hey, listen, listen, listen, listen. I was I was just happy we wouldn't chilled out. They say we played the coldest game in Ravens history. Negative six up there in Cincinnati.
SPEAKER_00:God, oh man, yeah, no.
SPEAKER_03:It was negative six. I couldn't imagine playing in that type of weather. That is brutal cold.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_03:That I'm glad I'm deciding I didn't want to go to that game because I was like, forget that. I ain't gonna not. I'm good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, what are we talking about? No, no way.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm good. So, congratulations to the Ravens and the Eagles for putting goose eggs up. Now, of course, you know, you'll have some people out there. Oh, well, I mean, look at the records of the team you were playing. Oh, okay, stop it. This is what I tell people all the time. If you play in the National Football League, let me say this again: if you play in the National Football League, you are a reputable team. So you get paid a lot of money to do this, so you have to go out there and play. You know, now, two big losses. So, old Patty Mahomes, you know, he got hurt. They say Toys ACL. And um, I think Buchanan through us, he's out for the year. He's just like a rookie. But you never want to see anybody hurt, especially ACLs and um, oh yeah, Michael Parsons with ACL also. So, I mean, them guys got hurt, you know, it's just sad that they have to go through that, you know, the rehab process, then try to get back, and with ACLs, it seemed to really take a long time for them to get back. So uh, just shout out to them. But like I said, it was great, it was great to watch some football this week.
SPEAKER_01:Not not only that I'm I'm glad you watch football. Maybe, maybe, maybe me not watching football actually is something that I need to do more often. Um you know what sucks about the internet? What sucks about the internet is that how can I put this? Usually when injuries happen, it's like you see all the people that's like, oh man, this is bad, this is terrible, uh you know, thoughts and prayers. Anyone know what was on my timeline when I found out that Mahomes was hurt? They decided to do a parallel between him and Brady, and they talked about how these are the two quarterbacks that got hurt in their ninth year, and it just so happened to be a torn ACL.
SPEAKER_03:Oh Lord.
SPEAKER_01:Now, look, I'm not gonna lie to y'all. When I saw that, I traditionally was like, I wasn't really crazy about being a Kansas City chief hater. Not really what something I had on my bingo card for the foreseeable future, wasn't really my plan, right? But uh, after seeing that, I might be one. I might.
SPEAKER_03:You might listen, listen, you know, I got family up in Kansas City, you know we battle all the time, all the time with Kansas City. I said, Hey, I'm sending prayers to my homes. I that you know, you don't want to see nobody get hurt. And now, is it good that they didn't make the playoffs? That's great, because it's guaranteed someone's gonna go to the Super Bowl and it won't be the Kansas City Chiefs. So hey Kansas City, sorry but not sorry. Okay, oh my god, sorry but not sorry.
SPEAKER_01:Not only that, um I had a I had a conversation about this the other day. Uh and yes, I'm looking at you. Uh my bad.
SPEAKER_00:Uh, wrong button, Josh Allen.
SPEAKER_01:Because we have all these conversations about well, how good are these quarterbacks? They always have to go up against Kansas City, they're the big juggernaut, and that's why they can't get to the Super Bowl. Well, let me tell y'all something right now. Welcome and said Josh Allen does not make it to the Super Bowl. We are going to have some, we want to have some very joking, and I'm not, this is not taken away from the teams that could make the playoffs that are already, you know, that are trying to fight for a playoff spot. Who in there legitimately poses as a team to be a threat? Unless your name is the Houston Texans, who had the defense that has beaten them up so bad a couple weeks ago that he literally was acting like Sam Darnold with the Jets, just seeing ghosts. All right, like there's there's no threat, there's no threat. There's there's I mean, who knows what happens in the AFC North between y'all and Pittsburgh? Who knows? You may not see any of them, you may not see Joe Burrow, you may not see Mahomes, and not many know how everything's they are officially eliminated.
SPEAKER_03:You won't see Joe Burrow.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so you are now having a deal with a field that involves the Indianapolis Colts, who actually I can't even say the Colts right now because they're not even leading their division. You gotta worry about Jacksonville, who has Trevor Lawrence, yeah, Mr. Goldilocks over there. Not Goldilocks, I guess they're 10 and 4. Yeah, they're 10 and 4, but I don't think anybody's really taking them serious to come playoff time. Then you have the Patriots that you just beat this past Sunday. They're kind of they're they're kind of young. Their rosters, you know, hit or miss. Okay, we love Drake May. We we love what they're doing up there in New England, actually, uh sidebar.
SPEAKER_00:No, we don't.
SPEAKER_01:Um, but it's cool. Okay, then you got Denver, who has a great defense, but you know, they got Bonex at quarterback, who, in fairness, played very well on Sunday. So that was cool, right?
SPEAKER_03:Right, right.
SPEAKER_01:But outside of that, outside of that, who are you really? Who's really in your way? No one, none of the quarterbacks that I listed are on the same caliber as you. So if I look back at the AFC championship game or at the Super Bowl, and I do not see Josh Allen in it, we are going to have to have some rough conversations, yes, because there's no excuses.
SPEAKER_03:Because you really don't have any powerhouses that's in it. I mean, no, do we really want to say Denver is a powerhouse? Do we want to really say that even New England is a powerhouse? Really? I'm just saying, do we even want to say that? No, your juggernauts are pretty much reeling this year, really, and then you got two of the oldest quarterbacks in the NFL playing, Phillip Rivers, right, and um old uh Rogers.
SPEAKER_01:And you know how I feel about that guy, ARP card, ARP card, you better know it.
SPEAKER_03:And of course, and of course, you know, for some reason, Miami just can't doesn't know how to play in the cold, so they can never play in the cold.
SPEAKER_01:I okay, just because you brought them up, I thought we wasn't gonna talk about them. Look, I've seen a lot of people that have had stuff to say about they should get rid of Tua, they should trade Tua, they should cut Tua, and that sounds great. In theory, that sounds great, but I want to let y'all in on a little secret. Um, two years ago, uh, the same Miami Dolphins that you're trying to be a fan of, yeah, that franchise gave that guy that you're trying to trade and cut today uh 200 million dollars. So uh yeah, that contract is not tradable. Okay, then it's not younger. Okay, uh if you are gonna try to trade them, who would you trade them to? The Colts? Well, here's the problem. Um all their quarterbacks are at least six five Alberta Ravens. They're at least six five or taller. So the Colts are out. Um Atlanta, no, right. Uh New Orleans no, because they actually like what what their quarterback's doing right now, and Tyler Shook.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01:So that's out. So all of the bottom all of the bottom feeding teams, Cleveland. I think I I think they're not gonna be idiots, and they're actually going to ride behind Shador. There goes that. Wait, wait, you would say New York, but you're not trading a division.
SPEAKER_03:Hold on, let me let's go back to Cleveland just for a second. Just for just for a second. How do you give the quarterback the wrong wristband? How you how you give him the wrong wristband? I I'm just asking. I'm I'm asking for myself, not for someone else. I'm asking for myself. How do you give some how you give someone the wrong wristband? The wrong, I mean the wrong wristband. You looking at the place like, wait a minute, uh, what is this? And then a minute in the press conference, yeah, that was on me. I gave him the wrong wristband. Uh uh, what I've never I've never seen someone try to set someone up for failure. Has that even ever happened in the National Football League? That someone had the wrong wristband? That's not I'm just asking. That's never happened. Ever that's never happened. That's never happened. So so why would it happen here? That that's the only thing I'm saying. Why would it happen here?
SPEAKER_01:Why wouldn't it happen?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, why would it happen? Yeah, we're talking about Cleveland, right? Why wouldn't it happen there? Yeah, we're talking about Cleveland. Yeah, anything happens up there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And but yeah, and not only they're trying to get a new stadium. I think the writing. Yeah, whatever. The writing on the wall, I think everybody knows that Stepanski's done. I think everybody knows the fancy's done. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, he's done. If he don't get fired, then I'm gonna go apply for a hedge coach. If he doesn't get fired, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'm serious, legitimately, and I need the money, so you ain't gonna absolutely need the money. Bring it on, but I think he knows that he's about to lose his job too. So I think now he's starting to get creative on how he's gonna lose it. So now it's like, yeah, yeah, you know what? We're gonna take our quarterback out uh when we have a chance to win, and we're gonna do a wildcat to try to tie the game, and then the following week, we're gonna get we're gonna give him the wrong wisp band to start the game, and uh, you know, that first series ironically ended up being a three and out. And um, you know, that was that, and that ended up being the rest of the game because Shador was just trying to figure out well, what what the hell am I supposed to do? I mean, I'm not even getting the right fucking place. So there's that. At this point, he's just getting creative, he he's just getting real creative on how he wants to lose his job. Just get rid of him already. This this is this is a done deal. This is not even like oh, maybe we should give him another shot. Like, no, no, I think he's purposely doing this so that way like he's he's he he's he's not meant to be there, he's not meant to be there, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yep. Ridiculous, ridiculous. Like I said, it it it makes no sense that you're trying to sabotage the boy. Cleveland, get it together. You know something until they clean house up there. I mean, I think the owner has to go too. They just need to clean house up there, clean house, yeah, get new ownership in there because okay, point in case, look what happened in Washington when the Harris group came in, right? They cleaned house, they got all that toxic stuff that was going on up there under Dan Snyder, and they came in with a pretty clean culture. Renovations to the stadium, they put money in, you know, they start doing this. What they do go to the NFC Championship game last year because their culture changed, right? Cleveland has yet to experience that, but yet I get stopped and says, Hey, that Super Bowl y'all got in 2000, that was ours. Cleveland fans. I was like, No, it's not, belongs to the Baltimore Ravens. I said they didn't want to be up there anymore. They left. Yeah, Modell was like, Yep, passes. I'm out. Hey, hey, yeah, they did they did to them, they did to them what the coats did to us. Pack up a stuff, sure did uh because the NFL, let's be honest, didn't want to get Baltimore team. No, at all, not at all. So thank you, Modell, for coming on down here. God rest his soul.
SPEAKER_01:It's it's it's chance of franchise for the better, clearly. Because yes, what they what they got going on uh what they got going on over there in in Cleveland is this is not this is this will never be a desirable coaching hire. Like this this will never be a desirable coaching um destination. If you're looking to try to no it it it'll it'll never be, it it'll never be because it's clear your owner, your GM, like no one's on the same page with anything. We can't even be on the same page with draft picks.
SPEAKER_03:No, not at all, not at all.
SPEAKER_01:Whoever whoever steps in to uh replace him, um this is gonna sound pretty nasty with who I'm about to say, but uh prime time Deion Sanders. Um good luck.
SPEAKER_03:Right, yeah, good luck. Look, with all the firings that's going on between the NFL and college, it's it's gonna be a lot of people going. Hey, they even said the rumor of John Hallball going to Michigan, okay. Sure, because you know, because you know you had a nasty man up there in Michigan too, so what's up with the nasty man in Michigan, dog?
SPEAKER_01:What is this? All right, you know what? I'm not even gonna do that right now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we we got enough of them. We got enough of them on our plate.
SPEAKER_01:I'm I'm I'm I'm not. Literally Stephen A. Smith, oh my god, he he is an idiot. He literally said on his on his show, right, about the situation. He literally says. Sex is undefeated. And I said, This has gotta be one of the most obnoxious things anybody could ever say about a situation. Ever. Ever. Like no one sits up there and and and has all this going on, and then someone comments and says, you know what, y'all? Sex is sex is undefeated, man. Never loses. It never loses. It's like what?
SPEAKER_03:Where'd I come from? Right. Right. All right. Let's jump back on this. So listen, I think the most exciting game was the Rams and the Lions. Now you know I ride with Detroit. I do. I do. I think if it's anybody that deserves the Super Bowl, it's them. It's them.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It is them, man. But it's just something about when they play the Rams, man, that that's just a different animal. You know, because remember, they did the quarterback swap. You know, they put the gunslinger, Stafford, out there, right? Jared Goff.
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:He goes to Detroit. Dan Campbell said, Hey man, I got you. I got you. And he's really developed Jared Goff. I hey, trust me, because when he was with the Rams, he was oh, he was horrible. I he's a bum. Like, man, he's he's trash. Man, he gets under Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell's like gator boy life. I believe in you. Come on, let's let's go win some games together. And since they've been up there, they really haven't had a losing season.
SPEAKER_01:Hasn't had a losing season. That might change. That might change now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. But but you know, betting against Stafford is kind of hard sometimes. It is. But go ahead. And your boy Puka de Kuwa.
SPEAKER_01:Puka de Kuwa. Man, I first of all, I feel like he's like he's Puka's something else. Um, can I is it fair to say that this should be our next great NFL rivalry? Like legitimate rivalry. I understand no one. I mean, I understand that one team has actually been to the Super Bowl and has won it. I understand that there's team that there's the other team that has never been to the Super Bowl. I I hear that. I'm talking strictly about it's something about every time these two teams specifically play each other. It doesn't matter if it's if it's in LA or if it's in Detroit. Right. It could be week one, it could be week 15. For whatever reason, when these two teams play, it's like it's like a playoff game every time.
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:It's like the crowd gets gets loud. Every game has a big play in it. All the stars show up. It's like there's always a great game between them two. And I just feel like we we always talk about Mahomes and Allen. I'm like, I don't really view that.
SPEAKER_03:That news is getting old as a rival. Yeah, that news is getting old.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, like I I can't. I can't really take that serious. Um, you you hear about Mahomes and Lamar. It's like uh okay, like, but when I'm talking about two teams, that I don't I can't even say that they hate each other because they don't. They they really, if if you were to put them into the room, I I think they could say they genuinely like are cool, but it's something about when they play each other, it feels like it's an NFC championship game every time, every time.
SPEAKER_03:And made the best team win.
SPEAKER_01:And and the Rams did their thing. Now, granted, this this little injury thing they got going on right now, it couldn't come at a worse time because right on Thursday, they got Seattle in that defense, and I don't know what the I mean, I feel like Devontae is gonna try to play to this hamstring, but who knows? No one knows how bad it really is right now, right? Uh, but between Devontae and Puka and their health, man, I I hope that they're 100% because they're going to need this game. Oh, yeah. They're gonna need this game. Someone who has someone that wins this game is probably gonna mess around and get the number one seed, um, or the two seed, however, they try to stack everything up. But I hope they're healthy enough to play because they're gonna need them. They're gonna need them.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely. It's just like, all right, you know, the injury with TJ Watt. They say he's out indefinitely. Because that's alumni surgery yet.
SPEAKER_01:So okay, so so it was it was the surgery, he had surgery on it. Yeah, okay. See, I was this whole time, I've been I've been sitting, I've been sitting on this joke because I don't know what it is with NFL players and their lungs, but between Tyrod Taylor and now TJ Watt, what are y'all doing? Like, I thought it was another team doctor. I swear to god, I swear to god, I thought it was another team doctor issue. I was gonna sit up there and say, uh, Roger. We got a problem. We got a team doctor problem. I don't care if it's one person and that's the other person. Don't care. We are having people's lungs get punctured. That is a problem.
SPEAKER_03:That's a problem, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like this is this was impressive. This is two people too many. This is two people too many. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03:So and they got Detroit. Dante, what's happening? Good luck, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Good luck.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so Detroit, Detroit issues, and right now that that was a tough loss for Detroit. But but they hey listen, they thought they coming back. They coming back, they are coming back, and um so that that's gonna be a rough game for them, man.
SPEAKER_01:Shout out to the Steelers because yes, I have my jokes about them running an ARP R uh operation, um, which is still accurate and still valid. But I think there is something to be said about how they played in that cold for the whole world to see last night. I gotta admit, that was some badass shit right there.
SPEAKER_03:Anyone playing in that type of cold, but remember, where did Rogers come from? Green Bay. Yes, if it's any place that's cold, it's Green Bay, and I mean it gets colder in Green Bay than what it does in Pittsburgh, so yes, yeah, gets a lot colder. So if it's anybody's used to the cold, it's Aaron Rodgers. So he's used to that type of weather being brutal. Dante's laughing, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. Well, I mean, shoot, Dante. You know, you you know what ARP card uh operation y'all got going on in Pittsburgh. Uh but at the end of the day, the the way that they were were flying around, and I mean, I don't think I've ever seen a game where tight ends were rushing in for touchdowns. That's just something that just like usually like teams try to have fun during the game because they're bored, right? Right. I genuinely feel like the Steelers were like just trying shit just because it was the Dolphins. I genuinely feel that. I genuinely feel like they sat up there and was just like, you know what? Let's uh have Aaron Rodgers throw off of his off of his foot, like literally, like just grab his foot and have him try to throw it to one of the receivers, like and and hope it's a tight spiral. Like, I feel like they were making shit up because they were just having fun because it was the Miami Dolphins. Like it was, yeah, there were some moments out there where I was like, are y'all like are y'all like playing around with them right now? And the answer was and they were, and they were, and they were. I said, I said, god damn, not for the whole world to see that is nuts. And I wow, I was just like, bruh, this is obnoxious, and um, I I just want to put the shout out for for Pittsburgh, man, because even though they're running that that ARP operation, man, they they are they're winning games, they're winning games, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they winning. So like I said, I know that's not easy for you as a race fan. I I know that's not easy for you to say, but truth of the matter is, man, you you see what you see. You see what you see.
SPEAKER_03:When when have I ever came on here and downplayed anything? I haven't. I don't downplay anything, right? I'll make no excuses. We lose, we lose, we lost, we lost. Okay, wherever the calls, wherever there's if we lost, we lost. We won, we won. Right, you know, but that whole that whole touchdown thing is gonna be revisited off season. Watch what what's a touchdown? That whole thing's gonna be revisited. He said, Thanks for the shout out. Yeah, oh my god, man. Listen, listen, I I was looking at the game, I said, Yeah, it's game over. I said Dolphins can't just can't play in cold weather, but no, hey, at least the Steelers get a break next week because they gotta go to Detroit. At least they play in the dome.
SPEAKER_01:That's true, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:They get a play in the dome, you get the play in the dome, so and uh, but that's not gonna be an easy game.
SPEAKER_01:That punctured line thing, man. Man, that get that's a big loss, yeah. Absolutely, yes, that's a big loss. Oh, I was like, bro, are we serious right now?
SPEAKER_03:Because yeah, you got the most aggressive coach that you're going to play against, they ain't scared to go for it on fourth down. Nope. And right now, that loss to the Rams, them boys are gonna be like, Nope. We're gonna we taking every chance. You gotta watch out for the trick plays, you gotta watch out for everything with Dan Campbell. Yes, so you gotta watch out with everything. Yeah, he gets down there. I'm like, Dan, take the points, Dan, take the points, Dan, take the points. No, we're gonna throw. Oh god.
SPEAKER_01:He can't help himself, but he in in fairness, this the one thing I will say about Dan Campbell, and I think we need to have more coaches like this. Once you once you establish who you are as a head coach, yes, are there scenarios where you need to be different? Yeah, but don't go away from who you are. And the one thing I will always say about Dan Campbell, that guy does not stay away from who he is, from who he is, tried and true, absolutely. He tried and true, he will be himself, whether he's up 30 or he's down 20. It'll always be the same Dan Campbell, and um, that's the one thing I I ultimately respect about his play calling and just how he is as a head coach. He he does not care, he does not care. He's gonna be him through and through, and sometimes it's too a fault. But look, you know what? In fairness, though, what I will say is if I'm Dan Campbell, can't nobody tell me shit because before I got here, right? The Lions were exactly that, they were shit, and now I get here, and now a couple years in, we're going to the NFC Championship game, and now we're we're we're in one of the best teams in the league conversations. Yeah, can't nobody tell me shit. I can go forward on fourth down all day long. Who's gonna fire us? All day long? Who's gonna fire me? Right, Ford, Ford, Ford gonna fire me.
SPEAKER_02:Nah, right, nah. I'm good for him.
SPEAKER_01:So that yeah, he he I I'm telling you right now, I don't care if if he gets to a Super Bowl or not. If he gets to a Super Bowl, he's definitely getting a statute. But even if he does not, I think it is fair to say with the job with the job he's done in that specific on that specific size. Okay. Okay. Am I here? I'm still good. Yep, yes. Okay. Okay, cool. Uh I was just saying that um, yeah, because we got we got a thunderstorm going on over here. And oh Lord. I just saw some lightning, so uh I don't know. But uh I say all that I say all that to say Dan Campbell, because of that specific franchise and what he's done, they might mess around and and and put a statue up. They might. Regardless of how it starts and ends.
SPEAKER_03:But he deserves it.
SPEAKER_01:He he might he might he might get he might get a statue up. He he definitely does. I'm I'm serious because that's fantastic what he's what he's been doing, even with this season. Like it, yes, they have lost some games that they might have should have won, and but I'll tell you one thing for sure. They show up for every single one of them. They they they fight hard, even in the losses, they they fight hard. This is not like fight hard. You're not about to sit up there and beat us with hope. You you're not about to just no, you're gonna have to take this from us, and right. I I've I've always been impressed with what Campbell's done. It's it's been incredible, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Right, right, right, right. Hey, you want to talk about an upset? An upset, you want to talk about an upset. Wait a minute, upset that, yeah, that and the NFC South beat the Panthers, you know that and the NFC South beat the Panthers. Wait a minute, let me say this again. That and the NFC South beat the Panthers.
SPEAKER_01:Led by Tyler Shook. If I'm a Carolina Panthers fan, I should be ashamed of myself. I uh genuinely. That's a shame. What were they in Carolina too? They were in Carolina, weren't they?
SPEAKER_03:No, they was down in there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh okay, okay. Then I that's still unacceptable. That's that's still unacceptable.
SPEAKER_03:Oh in every way that's unacceptable. Yes, okay, okay, all right. Um put it this way I I feel as though it was unacceptable for the Seahawks to struggle against the Colts the way they did with a 47-year-old quarterback. Yeah, yeah. And we talking they got top 10 defense. I'm sorry, top five. I'm gonna say top five. Seahawks, top five defense in the league. And you struggled against a 40-something year old quarterback. I you know, if the NFL has taught us anything this week, I mean, I'm sorry, not this week, this whole week season that if you thought you knew it, you don't know us. Football gods said, Yeah, we're just gonna scramble everything up. Yeah, we scrambling the eggs, you know, we throwing cheese in there, you know. We now nope, uh-uh. If you thought this person was gonna be hit, no, it's gonna be this person. At this, at this rate, you don't know who's going to the Super Bowl. Seriously.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. There is no heavy favorite. No. And that's what I will say. This is not I don't know what I don't know what I'm I mean, I'm not watching it no more, but whatever I was watching but before last week, like damn, I I I don't know about nothing because each week, each week is different.
SPEAKER_03:And yes, if you want to talk, if you want to talk about your blowouts, Jaguars, but I mean it was the Jets, right? And the Texans was pouring it on, right?
SPEAKER_02:Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_03:But it was the Cardinals. But you see, there's gold cliche again, is that those teams are in the National Football League, right? So they're reputable teams. But just looking at their records, don't look like they're reputable at all. Right? And we're we're not gonna talk about that. That we're not gonna talk about that team up there in Chicago. We ain't gonna talk about them because they played Cleveland. You know, after you gave your quarterback the wrong um the wrong band, right? So self-sabotage.
SPEAKER_01:So stupid. So stupid.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So self-sabotage. Oh, here's another one we need to get on. Them two teams in it. Right? And yeah. That team in Florida. They lost to that uh other team in the yeah. At this point, all of them are censored. Nobody wants to win the division down there.
SPEAKER_01:No. And I think that's very fair. I I now I do want to talk about it. Go ahead. Can can we can can we get can we get on the real quick? Let's go here real quick, okay? This team can't win properly and can't lose properly. Okay?
SPEAKER_04:No.
SPEAKER_01:Now the have they have one of the worst records in the league. Okay? They're gonna be dropped, they're gonna be drafting in the top ten for the draft, right? Right. Right? Well guess what? The answer is no. You wanna know why? Because the thought it was a good idea in last year's draft to give their first round pick for this year to oh, I don't know. The Los Angeles Rams. Okay? That's what happened. And then you start off the season with uh yeah. I don't know. But then you start off the season with a guy who is officially benched that you are paying like$80 million to to sit on the bench and keep it hot. And then the guy that you have starting ahead of him has had two major surgeries before you even drafted him. And since he's been in the league, he's had two more major surgeries. Yeah, that's what you have starting at at quarterback.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And then you actually play the game, he's inaccurate as hell. The team just just doesn't know what they're doing, and it's gotten so bad that the coach is talking about clapgate, which is something I thought was assigned to begin with. I thought he should have been fired on the spot the moment he decided to come up with that. Um when they played New England. And I don't know how there's no other way to figure out how to fix the without without blowing the whole thing up. I think the GM needs to go. I think the head coach needs to go. Y'all need to figure out what you want to do with your quarterback, you need to figure out what you want to do with your running back. Yes, I understand that y'all are trying to pay him, but uh, I want to let y'all in a little secret.
SPEAKER_00:Y'all are in cap hell because y'all have an 80 million dollar quarterback being on your bench.
SPEAKER_03:Bench. Right.
SPEAKER_01:Um welcome. So he's gone. Um, where you trade him to, I don't know. I hope you can get some picks back. Hopefully, maybe, but your track record means that you're probably gonna mess around and get a first round pick from 2030 or some shit like that. So there goes that. And then uh you need to figure out what you want to do with one of your wide receivers that you also are trying to pay, because I want to let you in on the secret once again. You are also in cap hell because you have a quarterback on your bench that's getting paid$80 million a year. Right. So you might have to trade them too, which means you are now going to have to rebuild everything from the ground up and hope and pray that what you get back is going to be enough for the new head coach and the new GM. And honestly, if the owner, uh I don't know if the owner wants to to wait until he passes away and and give it to his kids. I I don't know what should happen as far as ownership, but whatever's going on over there is it's not working. And the fact that we can't either lose properly, win properly, is a shame. Yeah, it it's it's bad. It really is bad. So uh yeah, um, so yeah, the uh you know what I got an official name for them because we have them censored so much on this show, I have a new official name for them, and we should call them the Atlanta Hospitals. We should call them the Atlanta Hospitals. That's it because it just seems like the quarterbacks are always in and out. I'm pretty sure. And look, there's no one that's gonna tell me otherwise. There are quarterbacks check in and out of the hospitals as often and as frequent as some people that have diseases. That's how frequent you go in and out. They're like, oh yeah, is that you, Kirk? Okay, cool. Good to see you again. Yeah, come on. Okay, yeah, we we know exactly where you like to be. You like to be in uh the second row, you want to make sure it's high enough so that when no one can see you, you want to make sure the blinds are are pitched this way, you want the black curtains instead of the white curtains. We got you, we'll work with you. It's okay, we got you. They they I'm pretty sure they have their own rooms in there.
SPEAKER_00:That's how good it is.
SPEAKER_01:So from now on, we are going to call them the Atlanta hospitals because it's very clear that whoever's on that roster can't stay healthy or hurt or always finding themselves being in the hospital. And I think that should resonate with the whole team. So to avoid us censoring them, which I'm telling you right now, is not easy to do, we are going to start calling them the Atlanta hospitals.
SPEAKER_03:Atlanta Hospitals.
SPEAKER_01:Because all they are doing is checking in and out. All they're doing is saying, Oh, hey, Kirk, how are you? Kirk Coach, how are you? It's good to see you again for the left time this year. Oh, how are you, Michael? It's good to see you again, man. Look, oh, it's another major surgery we gotta do. Gotcha. Sounds like a plan. Gotcha. You know, it's right up our mouth. This is the Atlanta hospitals. We got a wide receiver in the name of Drake London, who legitimately can't even make it through a full season without something happening to his shoulder or his knee or both. The Atlanta hospitals. It's it's it's time we see it. Everybody's checking in. Everybody look and look, they're a bunch of millionaires anyway, so don't nobody give a fuck about what the what the hospital bill's gonna be. They can go in as often as they want. That could be their second hotel room from a weekend. That's how often they're in there anyway. They got the hotel key. They they they shoot. While everybody's getting hospital food, they're still getting gourmet specials getting sent to the to the to their hospital bed and and and they're living life. They're living life. So let's help them live more life and call them the Atlanta hospitals because that seems to where they are more than any anywhere else. They don't seem to be on the field because they nobody healthy, and everybody seems to be hurt. And by that alone, we we should officially call them the Atlanta hospitals.
SPEAKER_03:Not the Atlanta hospitals.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, yes. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:There's gonna be a doctor out there in Atlanta that's gonna sit up there and say, Yes, I've been working at the Atlanta hospitals for quite a while now, and I've been paid, I've been paid pretty handsomely. Well, first of all, let's make something very clear. I hope that it's legal that you're getting paid handsomely.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_01:But nevertheless, if that's where you are working at, congratulations. Um, I'm pretty sure you're doing well for your families as well. And um that is the new team that's in the NFC South, the Atlanta hospitals. And we might even mess around and censor that too.
SPEAKER_00:Can't keep it.
SPEAKER_01:But that's their that's that's their new thing. The Atlanta hospitals. They can't keep nobody upright, everybody gotta go down. I'm surprised the head coach is still moving around. It is bad. It's a shame. And and I think they need a clean house. And I think it's time. I I really do. Blow the whole thing up, blow the whole thing up, save yourself from any further embarrassment. And um yeah, it's official. Y'all are the new Atlanta hospitals.
SPEAKER_03:Atlanta hospitals. Oh my god. Like I said, oh, in that note that hey, you know something? Hey, they ain't even safe from that. You're out of here. You are out of here. Oh my goodness, it's the truth, it's the truth. They'd like hospitals, man.
SPEAKER_01:They deserve it.
SPEAKER_03:The they'll be all right, they're they'll be okay. They will be okay.
SPEAKER_01:I would hope so. They're getting very taken care of. They're getting they're getting very well taken care of. Them nurses are putting in overtime, man.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, they're getting paid handsomely, okay. Handsomely.
SPEAKER_01:Now, hey, I want to make something very clear. I've never been, I've never been, so I don't know what they do to make sure that everybody is being taken care of. Okay, so if they're doing some some nasty man tendencies, I I I can't confirm or deny, I don't know about all that. But what I am saying is, as far as the team is concerned, they should change their name and call them the Atlanta hospitals because it seems like the roster is always finding themselves in the hospital because that's how often they're getting hurt.
SPEAKER_03:So hey, listen. All these teams getting hurt. It it's just sad. It's really, really sad. Yeah, it's really, really sad.
SPEAKER_01:But people can't win properly, they can't lose properly. We can't even keep people healthy. Atlanta hospitals, man. Atlanta hospitals, you gotta love it, man. Maybe we should treat it like general hospitals or something. Right. I don't know. Maybe we should treat it like the general hospital and just you know have everybody show up in there, have Stephen A and you know, be a guest or something. I I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know coming in and commentate.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, he would do a lot better than um that guy I will never mention and have ever come out of my mouth again.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, JG. Yeah, we're not gonna say his name, he's gonna appear.
SPEAKER_01:I will not. Will not.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we don't say JG's name.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god. You know something. Stephen was better than that guy.
SPEAKER_03:On that note, we're gonna be out of here. Yeah, who you know something, because I'm I don't I don't know who to give a bag to this week. I I really don't.
SPEAKER_01:You know, I you know I didn't watch any football to give anybody one.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I had to call you and let you know your team won.
SPEAKER_02:Wait, wait, wait, wait. This is both okay.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, all right. Well, hey, listen. Okay, then that's what we're gonna do. Raiders and the Bengals. You both get brown bags.
SPEAKER_02:Oh see what I did there?
SPEAKER_03:You see what I did? Okay, you see what I did there? You see what I did there?
SPEAKER_01:Here's the reason why I would like to I would like to say okay.
SPEAKER_03:In this National Football League, right? You are a professional team. You're telling me you couldn't score not one point, not even a field goal, you couldn't even get in the field goal range to score even one point, not a safety, not anything, you didn't score one point. Everybody else in the National Football League scored a point. Do you know how hard it is to goose egg someone in the National Football League these days? It is very, very hard. Very, very hard. Okay, you got your quarterback up there in and home alone, aka Joe Barrel. Right? Yeah, he's saying I'm just not having fun.
SPEAKER_01:Let me know if you heard that one before.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Let me know if you heard that one before.
SPEAKER_03:So you get waffled and you threw this pass, and Kyle Van Noy intercepted, and then in the greatest handoff in the world, Aloe Gilman, and he runs it down the sideline for a touchdown. And you know what they start comparing that to, right? Ed Reed, when he pitched that ball. Yeah, right? Yeah, start comparing that to that Bengals defense is trash. Trash. I mean, absolute garbage. Absolute garbage. I could have told you that. You know, like I said, you know, that war room that I'm in, right? You know, it's the guy in there. And you know, I always pick on him. He always talks about who they and who they, and Dante knows because he's in that war room just like I am. So yeah, you know, it it he always talks about the bank. Oh, we this and we that, who they. Nah, you're right. Who is they? Yeah, who is they? Because uh apparently they wasn't there. Oh, oh, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. I still gotta I still gotta go back in Cincinnati here for a second. Let me give the um organization a brown bag, and let me tell you why. Dave's at the point says, I'ma I'ma go up there to Buffalo. Buffalo. They be like, hey, we had a whole bunch of snow pear, we need volunteers. They come and clean them seats off, clean that up. They said, Yeah, hell with them damn fans. We ain't cleaning nothing.
SPEAKER_02:And they didn't. They didn't clean nothing. They left it there. They left it there. They said, they said those fans.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, in minus six degree weather. In minus six degree weather. Wow. Yeah. I was like, wow. Now Raiders, anytime Max was drawn off of his own teammate over that loss, you know there's a problem. Hey, hey man, do your job. Uh yeah. But the go birds rebound. The go birds came back. Right? And the flock came back. Let's just hope we can keep it up for another week.
SPEAKER_01:I hope so too.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so that's three brown brags on my uh part.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, I just have one now that I think about it. Uh oh, and I I gotta stay in the vision. You uh you know what? I'm putting this brown bag on on just Kevin Stefansky by himself. We all know you by the fire. We all get it, we all see it. It's cool. And and and look, I understand everybody's a human being. We all have we all have our own perspective and thoughts on how we go about things when we see the writing on the wall. Some people are just gonna, you know, tough it out and try to, you know, embrace it because they know it's coming. Then we got some that sit up there and you know they they you know kick and punch and scratch and claw because you know they don't they don't want to face the inevitable. And then you have Kevin Safansky, who literally sat up there and said, you know what, I'm gonna lose my job anyway. So now let me get creative with how I'm gonna lose it. And this week, like, why does it sound like an episode of the Cleveland Browns or something? It seems like every week it's like a new episode. This week, it's it's now let's let's change the plays off of our quarter, our starting quarterback's wristband. Last week it's was let's take the starting quarterback out in a game that we have a chance to win and do a wildcat that failed. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Miserably, miserably.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Like, what's gonna happen next? You know what? You know what? You know what? You just get a brown bag, okay. You just get a brown back. I I'm not even gonna do this. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not gonna do this. You just get a brown back. I'm not even gonna do that.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I gotta go back to Cincy. I gotta go, I gotta go back. So I I until I seen this, I don't I don't know the guy, I've never seen him, but he's a big Ravens fans, a guy named Butter, right? And apparently uh Ocho hooked him up, right? Brought him to the game, brought him down the field, and whatever. But he was up in Jamar Chase's box with his family. Only Raven fan up there, right? So when that interception happened, he had it off. He was just giving them NG, you know. Hey, yeah, you know, this and that. They put him out of the sweet box. Yes, they did. They put him out of the sweet box. Yes, put him out. Wow. And he was like, Are you serious? He was like, You really put me out? Put him out of the sweet box. And they was on um, you know, um there were Chad and uh Onk. They was on there. Yeah, he was like, They really put you out, he's like, they really put put them out. You got to go. You got to go. See you later. That is a brown bag with a penalty attached to it. Yes, because here's the thing. Here's the thing. If Cincy would have been whipping us, like what happened down on Thanksgiving, right? If that would have happened, they would have been all on him, right? Oh, we whipping y'all, uh, and you just gotta take it. Okay, if I lose and we get whipped, I gotta take it. It's it's it's all good, right? But y'all put the man out in press by. I thought it was a joke at first time I saw the video. It wasn't a joke, they threw my man out. They threw that's it, they threw my man out. A threw him out, OWT. So everybody in that press box, you get a brown bag with a penalty. That's a penal, yeah, for sure. For bad sportsmanship.
SPEAKER_01:Be ashamed of yourself.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my goodness. But he was able to go on the field, he took a picture with Lamar. He got to meet Lamar, and uh, you know, it it it it was it was just cool, but I just thought that was just bad sports. You put the man out the box. I mean, he they say he had great, it was a great view or whatever, but you put the man out. Come on now, stop playing, stop playing, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. And I'm done with my bags, but I I had to get him a brown bag with a penalty on that.
SPEAKER_01:This is exactly what it's gonna sound like. Dead.
SPEAKER_00:Dead, flatlined.
SPEAKER_03:We getting out of here, each and every last one of you. Thank you for listening. Thank you for doing this. We are out of here. We will see y'all next week because again, things will always change. Every week something changes, but hey, we know who ain't going to the playoffs. Every week something changes, so we see what's gonna happen in starting Thursday. We see y'all later.
