Speaker 1: Let's see how should we do this? 

Speaker 2: Okay, you read everything and I'm going to sing. This is the song that ever ends the whole time. Before I made these notes, I did have the stuff broken up into subsections People started singing and not knowing what it was, but they'll continue singing it forever just because, Come on, I was just Fine. you need better elevator music. 

Speaker 1: I mean, I need better elevator music than that. It's actually not too terribly bad. No, and it's not the quality of your singing. I need better than the lamb chop song. I'm sorry, I probably need to turn this basketball game off. I can't stop looking at it. 

Speaker 2: That's what you're doing. 

Speaker 1: It's like everything in the world in this investigation broke This week is fucking bananas. Oh, was there anything else that you would like to have included in the podcast? We don't necessarily have to. 

Speaker 2: That's fine. 

Speaker 1: I was going to mention the fact that Biden won yet again, even though he's tripping Like literally. 

Speaker 2: Well, sometimes literally. 

Speaker 1: He literally tripped today over some sandbags. 

Speaker 2: Oh no, Did you mean literally? 

Speaker 1: Yeah, he literally tripped. 

Speaker 2: I was like what did he do? I missed something that he upset you in some way. 

Speaker 1: No, he's not figuratively tripping. He literally tripped and Republicans are making fun of him. But it's hilarious because they're making fun of. They can't beat the guy who they're making fun of for tripping over a sandbag. It's great. Oh, do you have a nominee for the shithole of the week award? I guess I could like ask the Twitter. 

Speaker 2: A new one. 

Speaker 1: A new one. I was looking at Ken Paxton. 

Speaker 2: Okay, sure He's a shithole. I have stuff to say about Ken Paxton. That'll be great. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have to get too in depth on that, just like the fact that he's being impeached. 

Speaker 2: I don't have anything too in depth to say. 

Speaker 1: Okay. Mostly like shot and Freud, oh yeah yeah, i just mean we don't have to do an entire segment. That's not what that's for. But I will ask the Twitter audience if they would like to submit their nominee. Submit your nominee for the shithole Whoops Shit joke is not what I was aiming for. This is terrible. Podcast is definitely won't be in there Reading a tweet as I type it Not good content. 

Speaker 2: You had to read the tweets after you typed them. 

Speaker 1: That's probably a better way to do it. 

Speaker 2: Wow, my company does ESG and now we're all communists and also we all died. I'm reading I just read one of my own bad tweets. 

Speaker 1: I'll say You don't even tweet anymore. 

Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not much for me. It calms me out, man. I miss Twitter. 

Speaker 1: It's not nearly as enthralling as it once used to be, But how has that helped your internet addiction? Has it calmed it down slightly, or have you replaced Twitter with some other emotionally addictive engaging endeavor? 

Speaker 2: I don't know. I just can't find one. That's the same. I'm like spread, just mindlessly looking at shit. I'm trying to find something else to do. I've been working in my garden, but I don't know. Maybe that's why I have to. I have nothing to build a void. I mean. that's why I just filled it with weed, Not great. 

Speaker 1: You filled your Twitter void with weed. 

Speaker 2: I guess I was already doing weed More of it. 

Speaker 1: Wait, okay, let's dive into this for a second. How much weed is it that you're actually doing? I really don't even know if that's the context by which you should explain consuming weed. 

Speaker 2: It's not that much. It's frequent, though. 

Speaker 1: You're not like chain smoking blunts back to back like some individuals I know personally. I'm like bro, all you do is smoke all day. How do you even function? But I guess at that point, like being high is being normal and like not being stoned, it's like, oh, i'm all fucked up. Anyway, whatever you need to do to function and make it through your day, no judgment here. All right, i will count us in, we'll do the thing. We will congratulate Joe on beating Kevin McCarthy's ass. My mouth is extra moist right now. I don't know what happened. You're drooling from hunger. I'm probably dreaming of Ty's clam Chowder. Anyway, hopefully we'll get some nominees for the shithole of the week award. Otherwise I will go with Ken Paxton. If you fail to come up with anyone, that's totally fine. Is there anything you want to do? 

Speaker 2: I don't think we've done him yet. 

Speaker 1: We'll never do him. Oh, that reminds me Quick this week's episode of Fuck Mary Kale. Donald Trump, ken Paxton, kevin McCarthy, go. 

Speaker 2: I'm having a lot of trouble with this one. 

Speaker 1: I mean it's tough, Okay, I'm gonna. 

Speaker 2: I guess can Paxton, because he's, i don't really he can just be quiet and I don't. They're all bad choices. I'm gonna, i'm gonna do away with the former guy, words I could not say, and remember our listeners and secret service members. This is hypothetical And just like I'm not really going to marry Kevin McCarthy, but he's, he seems kind of like a huge fucking pushover And yeah. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, i personally think I would marry Kevin McCarthy because, like you said, he's a pussy And I would just run him. You definitely know who would be wearing the pants in this relationship Our marriage to Kevin. He would take my last name. He'd be Kevin Knight, which would be an upgrade for sure. I would absolutely Extinguish Donald Trump, for obvious reasons And, oh dammit, i did this backwards. I guess I would have to smash Ken Paxton because you know, at least he would give me a good paying job right next to to the crib, as he is wanting to do, and I'm sure, like that, probably the same thing probably goes for Ty. 

Speaker 2: And he'll be like I don't know if this works, but if you can get pregnant I'll pay for your abortion. Don't tell anybody We quank. 

Speaker 1: Hey, this is D Knight. 

Speaker 2: This is Carol. 

Speaker 1: Off somewhere enjoying a lovely dinner with her boo, but she should, i presume, be checking in with us here. Eventually, she doesn't make her way to bed in her comfortable, wonderfully luxurious set of sheets from sheets and giggles. 

Speaker 2: I see you're wearing your sheets and giggles t-shirt. Oh yeah, I actually have my. 

Speaker 1: I have a sheets and giggles shirt on. According to the shirt, i'm good in bed. That's what it says on the shirt. I'm not entirely certain how much time this the shirt has spent in bed with me, but it knows me fairly well Not to pat myself on the back. That's. That's one of the few things I'm good for in a relationship. I'm a. I'm a terrible boyfriend, but at least you'll enjoy a wonderful evening in the sack. And if you don't have me to keep you cozy at night, the least you can do is pick up a set of sheets from sheets and giggles to take my place. All right, carol, it's been a. Are you laughing at that? That was a hot mess, wasn't it? 

Speaker 2: No, it was great. 

Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm paying for this, even though he's not paying us. Yeah, look, as per the usual kids out there. it's been a it's been a wild, wacky, fun filled week of insanity. It never ends. endless roller coaster of I can't believe that fucking happened. Oh shit, is that real? Oh my God, what was that? 

Speaker 2: This is really going to let us default on the debt. 

Speaker 1: No, i didn't really think they would, but yeah Yeah, in case you missed it, biden struck a deal at the last minute to basically eliminate the debt ceiling for two years of verting catastrophe. People on both sides seem to not be pleased mostly on the right, though They're. They're the ones complaining about how they didn't get enough concessions out of this. I mean for the people on the left who are complaining about some of the less ideal things included. 

Speaker 2: Shut up, ernie, it's mostly performative. 

Speaker 1: There's no one in Congress who doesn't want this deal to pass, regardless of who you see voicing their outrage against it. Like, obviously it's not great, but just general consensus is that Republicans were threatening to hold the economy hostage, if not destroy it, If Biden didn't make a number of concessions about the budget. Instead of Biden making huge concessions, he eliminated the possibility of negotiating over the budget later this year and probably next year, And we don't have to deal with the debt ceiling until 2025, which presumably Biden will be in office and hopefully have control of the House at the time. 

Speaker 2: And it's pretty cool because you know a lot of the really far right people I'm sure wanted this to. They're like just decimating the American and probably world economy would be would be great for President Trump's campaign. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Republicans are just mad because they didn't get to set the world's economy on fire. And that's the gist of it, because it would be great for them. 

Speaker 2: Nothing solidifies wealth and power like a fucking emergency when you can take advantage of it. 

Speaker 1: Well, again you know, Biden averting a catastrophe that the Republicans created. I mean, he gets credit for that, Ironically, And also, I guess that's why Hunter Biden's laptop was trending and Twitter spaces. 

Speaker 1: That is precisely why Hunter Biden's laptop was trending after he reached a deal on the debt ceiling. They needed something to hammer Biden on. And I could get into the specifics of the the ins and outs of the debt ceiling deal. It's 98% good. There's a couple of hangups mansion snuck in some bullshit about a pipeline in there, of course, because he's he's owned by the fossil fuel industry. And maybe the other slight hang up would be the work requirements for a few individuals over the age of 49 now having to work to 54 to receive their snap benefits. But bigger picture, even with the snap, the way the deal was negotiated, it'll be an expansion of snap benefits for Americans. It will. It will include more Americans, especially the homeless, and our, our veterans served in the military. So all in all, it's a win. 

Speaker 1: Biden's crushing it Republicans is big mad. They hate Joe. They were laughing at him because he was tripping today, and I mean like he literally tripped. And they're like ha ha, ha, ha ha, joe Biden tripped over a sandbag. Of course, and I guess they don't see the irony in poking fun at someone they continue to lose to, whatever It's like he's, he's, he's, you know, incompetent and Biden has dementia. Well, you keep losing to a guy who's supposedly you believe is incompetent and has dementia. What does that say about you All, right, apart from Biden continuing to have a record setting streak of positive legislation? 

Speaker 2: We got Jack Smith Make it happen. 

Speaker 1: We have a number of developments in you'll never believe this The multiple investigations into Donald Trump. 

Speaker 2: And Lord, there's a smocking gun tape. 

Speaker 1: Smocking gun. For those of you who are unaware, that is an allusion to a 2018 tweet from Donald Trump. I guess I could just read it to you, where it says that I could do the thing. Do the thing, hillary Clinton. Democrats can't find a smocking gun tying the Trump campaign to Russia. After James Comey's testimony No smocking. He said it twice. 

Speaker 2: He doubled down on it. It wasn't a typo. 

Speaker 1: It wasn't a typo. He doubled down on the smocking gun. No smocking Good, no collusion Fake news. 

Speaker 2: Federal prosecutors have obtained an audio recording from a summer 2021 meeting in which former president Donald Trump acknowledges he had held on to classified Pentagon documents about a potential attack on Iran, despite claiming to have declassified everything. Oh right, i can't just gloss over that. 

Speaker 1: We'll get into that. 

Speaker 2: But yes, continue the document in question is classified as quote, secret and, which is significant, as the Justice Department prefers charge to charge espionage cases involving retention of materials that level. 

Speaker 1: So yeah, we're looking at espionage recordings before you go on, carol, that is of note because, okay, there are basically three levels of classification, or at least noteworthy levels of classification, being confidential, secret and top secret. In generally, in cases like this, the government does not like to prosecute espionage charges based on classified documents at the highest level, because to do so would require disclosing the contents of the document in court. Typically they would like like something slightly less sensitive but but still serious, of course not not to lessen the degree of the seriousness of this level of documents, but generally confidential. A jury might look at that and be like, hey, this isn't serious enough to warrant these severe level of charges. 

Speaker 2: So if they find a secret one, then it's there. There is some. They have to find something they're sort of okay showing publicly but, still bad enough to warrant espionage charges. 

Speaker 1: Exactly, they're looking for the. Goldilocks zone of like a level of classification of a document where the contents could potentially be harmful to the United States, if the if disclose, but also not so sensitive that it would warrant not bringing charges. 

Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what we are on there. 

Speaker 1: Hello Ty. 

Speaker 3: Oh, there I am. 

Speaker 1: What up yo? 

Speaker 2: Hey girl, hey Steve. 

Speaker 1: Oh no, he's downstairs though Steve's watching basketball. 

Speaker 2: We don't exist All right, so do you got the notes. 

Speaker 1: We actually really just got started. It's only four topics and I did too much. I overdid it and I'm sorry. I need to stop doing that. I'm paranoid about leaving things out because I feel like I just need to include every single minor fucking detail because I'm obsessive. I have OCD about sending Trump to prison. 

Speaker 3: Is that, is that are they? is that Well, yeah, it's a little better. 

Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we can see you now. No, you can see me now. What are you wearing? What you got on? 

Speaker 1: Go ahead and stand up. 

Speaker 3: I was like three bucks. I was the worst fucking food ever. 

Speaker 1: Well, at least you got your three bucks out of that dress. This is look you know, this is my fishing chips. 

Speaker 3: This is my fishing chips. 

Speaker 1: It looks like a chicken tender. 

Speaker 3: This is it. I was like 15 bucks. And then I asked the one of the workers I go Hey, do you have any tartar sauce? He's like I don't think we have tartar sauce. I serve fish and chips but no fucking tartar sauce. 

Speaker 2: Do you even have fish and chips on the menu, or like do they have the malt vinegar at least? 

Speaker 3: No, No this was it. 

Speaker 2: I guess that's why you don't order from the landlocked areas, they still ask fries. 

Speaker 3: Your hair is growing, carol. 

Speaker 1: Yeah. 

Speaker 3: It's getting longer. 

Speaker 1: And you look gorgeous as always. 

Speaker 3: Getting longer. 

Speaker 2: All right, i'm gonna keep. I sent you the notes. You eat my darling. 

Speaker 1: I'm going to keep Enjoy your meal, homie, while we do some podcasts. I'm talking about some espionage. 

Speaker 2: So the recording indicates that Trump understood he retained classified materials after leaving the White House. On the recording, trump's comments suggest that he would like to share the information, but he is aware of the limitations on his ability to classify records. post-presidency He discussed how he no longer possesses the sweeping presidential power to declassify, but he suggests he should have done so while he was in the White House. So meaning he didn't. he knows he didn't. Yeah, great, he said it in multiple ways. 

Speaker 1: Yes, he admits first of all that the document in his possession, apparently and I don't we've yet to hear the tape, but descriptions of it are such that it gives the appearance that he's like actually waving the document around, as he's describing it, Like you can hear the rustling of the paper. But so, first of all, it's an admission that the document, at least this particular document that he took, he knows it's classified, but he also is aware of how the declassification process works, because he says that he wished that he had declassified it, But it's in his hand and he took it anyway. But also he's like I should have done it, I should have declassified it while I was president, because now that I'm no longer president I can't declassify shit anymore. So it's like he's just destroying all of his own defenses that he's been mounting the past. 

Speaker 2: What is he smocking? 

Speaker 1: More than weed, Carol. Yeah, so More than weed. 

Speaker 2: The revelation that Trump knew he had retained sensitive material with national security implications presents a potentially perilous moment. It indicates his awareness of the limitations in discussing such information with unauthorized individuals. 

Speaker 1: That's also another thing. Just to acknowledge the existence of said classified document could potentially be a crime. And he's just like it's right here, guys, here, here, yeah, continue. 

Speaker 2: The recording has been described as an important quote. that's a quote piece of evidence in a possible case against Trump, who has repeatedly asserted he could retain presidential records and quote automatically declassified documents. So yeah, he's full of shit. He knows it Good. Yada, yada, yada. He's endangering all of us. 

Speaker 1: This idea that he's been presenting that he could automatically declassify documents or do so psychically. He's blown that defense to Smithereens. When he's eventually charged to this and make no mistake, charges are absolutely coming now and probably soon They're gonna have the trial on national TV. The prosecutors are going to hit play on this recording. Let the tape roll. Hit. Stop and be like I rest my case. He's going to fucking prison. 

Speaker 2: That'll be a beautiful day. So Special Counsel Jack Smith, leading the Justice Department investigation under Trump's handling of national security secrets, has focused on this meeting as part of the criminal investigation. The meeting took place in July 2021 at Trump's golf course in Bedminster, new Jersey. Attendees included individuals working on the autobiography of Trump's former chief of staff, mark Meadows, and other aides employed by the former president. Notably, these attendees did not have security clearance that would allow them access to the classified information. Yeah, some fucking author. And no, i mean, authors are fine, but not this one. 

Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not saying that we can like hang him. 

Speaker 1: Oh no, that's for Mike Pence. I mean Espionage. What happened to? 

Speaker 2: the last people? Who was the last? has there anyone convicted of Espionage since the Rosenbergs or whatever? 

Speaker 1: It happens everywhere occasionally I don't know, but what happened to the? 

Speaker 3: Rosenbergs was pretty, you know, set a precedent, so pretty on board with that. 

Speaker 1: It does happen, but our most recent case is Jack Tashira, who was sharing classified documents in There it is Oh, you're enamored with your own. 

Speaker 2: Oh, she got herself some. She got the lighting, nicer No. 

Speaker 1: Ty wanted to be beautiful for the Zoom which no one listening to this podcast outside the three of us will ever see. 

Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like looking at her Maybe she wanted to look beautiful for me. 

Speaker 1: Our most recent case of a similar vein of Espionage charges is Jack Tashira sharing multiple classified documents in Discord channels. 

Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he hasn't been sentenced yet, has he? 

Speaker 1: No, but he is actually being held in pre-trial detention because of the fact that, well, based on his private communications and some of his previous behaviors, he's been deemed to be a threat to the public, So he ain't ever getting out of jail. He ain't getting out of jail pre-trial and he definitely will not be getting out of jail post-trial for a long time. 

Speaker 2: Especially if he's executed. He won't be executed. 

Speaker 1: They'll just put him in prison for a long time Barges off a Gitmo. This idea that Trump was like bragging about this shit to a fucking writer is insane. And it's Mark Meadows biographer, but Mark Meadows wasn't even there, so it's not like it never ceases to amaze me. The Devs' man will go through to satisfy his own ego, like he'll admit to crimes, to just brag about Who the fuck wants to read Mark Meadows' biography. 

Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's more a squish than I die to squish. 

Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much Wait, but was it a biography? or is having someone ghost write an autobiography for him? Because it says autobiography Yes, he's having. Look at this cat-ass. 

Speaker 3: Your cat is huge And much like your cat's ass. 

Speaker 1: Mark Meadows is a pussy-ass bitch. 

Speaker 2: She's only 10 pounds. She's not that big, ty, weren't you? 

Speaker 1: saying didn't you think Mark Meadows was high or something For a old? 

Speaker 2: You must be talking to Ty. 

Speaker 1: Yes, ty. 

Speaker 2: Because I said no such thing. 

Speaker 1: Oh Ty, and that your type You know 69 years old, gray hair 69 and feeling fine. 

Speaker 2: I actually don't know what you I actually don't know how old he is. 

Speaker 1: I just wanted to say 69. 

Speaker 3: He's a weak-ass squish. No, no, he's gonna have to more. 

Speaker 1: He's gonna have more oof. You're more of a Kevin McCarthy type guy. Shut up, no, No. I'm just naming pussy-ass bitches, i'm just going over the fuck Mary kill. 

Speaker 2: Okay, oh damn, not a little bit. 

Speaker 1: Well, since we left you out, fuck Mary, kill your options. Donald Trump, ah, ken Paxton, kevin McCarthy, don't talk. 

Speaker 2: The worst way. We both did it. 

Speaker 1: The game's not supposed to be fun, it's supposed to be harrowing. 

Speaker 3: I am killing it. 

Speaker 1: Oh, okay, ha, ha, ha ha, And you're going to jail with Jack Eshira and Donald Trump Ty. 

Speaker 2: Go ahead. You're only legally allowed to kill one person. 

Speaker 1: Yeah we'll see you in 20 years. 

Speaker 3: That's the rules of the game All right. Okay, then it's gotta be Ken Paxton. 

Speaker 1: That's what you're killing. 

Speaker 3: He's gotta be Ken. 

Speaker 1: Oh, I know you're not. 

Speaker 3: You can live. 

Speaker 1: Well, i was telling, i told the audience that you'd bang him because he'd get you a job and pay. You get you pay. 

Speaker 3: Ha ha ha ha, ken is no he's. I had to kill that fucker. He is just pure evil. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, he's wilding totally. 

Speaker 3: Yeah, and in return, like, put him into any goddamn category. 

Speaker 2: Okay, but what are the? what about the other two? don't do the easy one, that's the easy one All right killed Ken. 

Speaker 1: now You got a bang Trump. I mean I guess, like if you Know, no, no, i'd marry him. What? 

Speaker 3: yeah, yeah, marry him, because then you could just Because then that means I don't have to fuck him. 

Speaker 1: You go the Melania route. All right, this podcast took a turn. Okay, carol, continue where we left off. Wherever the fuck that was, i no longer know. 

Speaker 2: The tape was played to multiple witnesses, including communications specialist Margo Martin, during her testimony in mid-march. Trump's lawyers learned about the tape after Martin testified. Met houses autobiography included an account of the same meeting, during which Trump recalls a report typed up by Mark Milley, the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. That can Sorry, my cat knocked over the microphone That contains Attack her on happy prod month. 

Speaker 2: The meeting shortly after news reports indicated Milley had urged Trump not to attack her on in the final weeks of his presidency. What the fuck, dude? Why were you gonna attack her on? 

Speaker 1: Okay. 

Speaker 3: So I'll I'll you the same thing, carol. It's like, okay, what the? 

Speaker 2: hell. It's just like a whim and like he has no no, no, no, i'll give you the broad strokes. 

Speaker 1: Do you remember that time that Iran launched a number of rockets into Iraq, some that came dangerously close to one of our bases there? Do any of you remember that? 

Speaker 1: Like between 2020 and 20 or Ron, launched a number of rockets into Iraq. We didn't have any any of our soldiers died but we did have a few individuals who received some injuries and at the time, apparently, trump wanted to find a way to retaliate and Milley was encouraging him not to do so in such a fashion that would create a Potential conflict between our military and Iran that could potentially explode into war. So one of the things Trump did was he had Milley draw up a potential plan to invade Iran, basically game out what they would look like, one of the potential scenarios, and then Milley Milley also drew up some less severe repercussions for Iran Iran, sorry and one of which Trump eventually landed on was to launch a number of missiles back at a Few targets inside of Iran, and that's that's what said what That's what Trump settled on. Well, what happened in 2021 is Milley went public in a number of articles and Was made a couple of TV appearances talking about how he was responsible for Trump showing restraint and not engaging in a full-blown conflict And in Trump was furious at this. 

Speaker 1: You may or may not remember this, but he was like. One of the things he tweeted at the time was like if I were to do a coup. The last person I would want to do a coup with is Mark Milley. After this the hour, remember any that. You remember any that. 

Speaker 3: Would take Rudy Giuliani that. 

Speaker 1: Okay, well, these are the things Trump was saying publicly, right, he was just going off on going off on, like Milley at the time. Well, what he was doing in private, specifically at Bedminster, where this incident was recorded- was this shit. He's way in the fucking document around like hey see, it was Milley who wanted to go to war with Iran And I've got the fucking plan to prove it, even though he's the one who told Milley to draw up. You know, take. 

Speaker 1: Jesus what an asshole to gain theory out a potential evasion of Iran. Iran, and, and you know, that's what the joint chief of staff job is Give me a potential plan of what it would look like if we were to launch a full-scale invasion of Iran. Not that anyone is actually planning to do that, but just what it would look like. And and that was the scenario. 

Speaker 2: Investigators of question general Mark Milley about the incident, making him one of the highest ranking national security officials from Trump's administration to meet with the special counsel's team. The investigation Investigation intensifies as numerous Trump aides or subpoenaed to testify before the federal grand jury. 

Speaker 1: The tape is the most damning thing You could possibly imagine. You know in what's coming for Trump. There's nothing more. There's no more damning piece of it. I mean, obviously, the retention of the documents put, but since the FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago and I don't give a fuck if you don't like calling the raid color whatever you want the execution of a search warrant like This tape puts everything into context while also destroying every defense Donald Trump has. It's like a fucking confession. 

Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty nice, not first, not for him. 

Speaker 1: Ty, you are muted. Ma'am, you might want to unmute your thing. I Have no idea what you're saying. 

Speaker 3: I Don't know I said it is a confession like, absolutely like, without a doubt, that That you're right. That is the most damning part of This, because it confirms That he was full of shit, that he knew what he was doing. Yeah, that he Like was all in on being a traitor. 100% Period, like that. That's it. I hope Jack moves on this like super fast, cuz Chrissy said to me today he goes can you believe it's only six months until 2024? Oh my god. 

Speaker 1: Immediately, my brain was like It feels like it was just January. 

Speaker 3: You were saying Ty yeah exactly, So how? 

Speaker 1: Tom has been at a standstill, while also moving incredibly fast is like where did it go? 

Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Until now. Holy shit, where did it go, right You? 

Speaker 1: know. But also it was like damn, so much happened. It was insane, like how did all of that happen in just two years? 

Speaker 3: all at the same time It's wild interest two years and then we're just barely getting the frickin justice of The insurrectionists getting punished and getting justice at least they're finally going to jail. 

Speaker 1: You know we've got a number of prison sentences, Especially for like the probable, or rather the oath keepers here, a lot of them are going to Jeff for a long time. 

Speaker 3: It's all saying that they're gonna pardon run. 

Speaker 1: Yes, we have a number of presidential candidates planning He boots wants to. 

Speaker 2: He's not gonna pardon them. Once he's elected, he's not gonna follow through on any of his He will hold on to his the. 

Speaker 1: Santas. 

Speaker 2: I'm sorry He's not gonna be elected, but if you were elected, like in his mind, once he's elected he doesn't give a shit about what his promises right? 

Speaker 1: No, the Santas does not. Trump might actually be serious when he's like, yeah, i'm gonna issue parties to these people because that's what he does, right? he, he soft sells this insane shit to try and make it seem less Crazy one but he didn't give them partings when he could have before he left office little Wayne man. 

Speaker 3: Well, he thought he would win some credit with the black community he pardon little Wayne and and he got fucking a sad rocky out of jail and He left all them mother motherfuckers. But the Santas is the stupid, so I don't see him doing a whole lot. 

Speaker 1: Well, i keep having to point this out, for the title of this podcast is ironic, and they're like no, i literally want to pardon all the insurrectionists like no, that's not what this is for, it's a joke, don't do it. What's? 

Speaker 3: that the name of the podcast, like, would have been like one note and Not relevant. After all, the insurrection is over, but now, man, they're still insurrection, and so yeah 2023 and they're still it is. 

Speaker 1: This is wild. You know what? now that you mentioned it, it is it not insane that two years later, after all of this, there's still? they're actually talking about part. 

Speaker 3: People. It's crazy like I feel like I'm in bizarro world and I'm running out of countries that I can move to. 

Speaker 1: We have done so much. The world is taking a turn. 

Speaker 3: Like I bet everyone else is like I'm ready to cry. You know I want to cry too. You know I want to be anti-democracy And it sucks, sucks big time, i think God is a good house. 

Speaker 1: Well, i had a friend who was listening to the previous episode of the podcast And the one thing he said was also thanks for pointing out that the bad shit, absurdity that this thing still is like. He can't believe this is still going on And he's like I appreciate you for calling out how crazy this is, because it's fucking crazy Yeah. 

Speaker 3: Like the top people have still not been held accountable, and that is incredulous to me, like I don't. I don't understand it, i don't get it, and they make fucking. 

Speaker 1: We're working our way there, ty, and we're wanting to get to. 

Speaker 3: Damned muscle shows. Alabama I don't give a fuck about it. But I do give a fuck about it. Trump, I do give a fuck about it. Pits Other people Yeah Different people that were Completion. 

Speaker 1: Are we Stones? 

Speaker 3: Yeah, looks like. Why isn't? 

Speaker 1: The War Room at the Wheeler. No one talks about that anymore. 

Speaker 3: I hear his. 

Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that though We're, we're gonna get to that. You know what reckless speculation in once. We conclude, if one tape wasn't enough, wait, ty, before you continue, this is gonna blow your mind, but there's actually a third tape, and we just haven't had the time to talk about it because it's been so crazy. But apparently, in the Manhattan DA's investigation, alvin Bragg also has a bombshell tape revealing crimes of Trump that he released in his evidential summary that he put out. 

Speaker 2: And that dude does not know how to shut the fuck up. It's great, it's great So yeah, probably a tape of him like hey, i know that these are, that I've drastically overvalued my donation to New York State of that park. but who cares Because? 

Speaker 1: I would imagine it's like to grab them by the pussy tape, but for like other crimes. 

Speaker 3: But for insurrection. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is the fraud. 

Speaker 2: Yes, wait a minute. 

Speaker 1: This isn't even that tape. This is a reference to the surveillance tapes at Mar-a-Lago surrounding the classified documents case. All right, ty continue. 

Speaker 3: Okay Segments. scrutiny on handling of security footage raises questions about interference by Trump aides. I don't know why I put that in there. 

Speaker 1: See, what happened was is when I was taking the notes, I had the stuff broken down in the segments and then I combined some stuff to just make one long segment And I forgot to get that out, so just give it one long segment. 

Speaker 3: They are long D. You were right And you be right and you be right. Well, i was here. 

Speaker 1: I was okay. So I have OCD, apparently about Trump going to prison. And when I'm preparing the notes of the podcast, i just get more and more fucking obsessed with like making sure I don't leave out any details, because there's always so fucking much going on that I can't remember it. And then when I listened back to the podcast, i feel like, damn it, i wanted to make that point and that point and that point and that point And I left it out And the next thing. 

Speaker 3: you know, That's true it is a lot. 

Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but the thing is like well, okay, so if you're listening to this podcast, normally what you get is two episodes per week, but really what it is is, we recorded one really really long episode and I broke it up into two And, like if I made every point that I wanted to make, the podcast would be 14 hours long and we would never go to sleep. All right, continue Ty. 

Speaker 3: As the special counsel, jack Smith, and his team continue their investigation in a former President, donald J Trump's handling of classified documents, that have turned their attention to a related issue The potential interference by Trump and some of his aides in obtaining security footage from our logo. The footage could provide valuable insights into how the documents were stored and who had access to them, shedding light on whether Trump obstructed the government's efforts to retrieve the classified materials. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, in the previous segment we covered the espionage. In this particular segment we're covering the obstruction. So two related intermingled prongs of the investigation into the document. So I continue Ty. 

Speaker 3: Yes, to unravel the second aspect, investigators have delved into the depths of Mar-a-Lago, trump's private club and residence in Florida. I don't know why I put that information in there. 

Speaker 1: We all know what the fuck Mar-a-Lago is As where he smokes dope and smokes his fucking crack and does his speed. 

Speaker 3: Norts his Adderall. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, and commits money laundering and all that And then poops his pants. Yeah, and fucks whores probably. Yeah, well, reckless speculation. 

Speaker 3: I'm gonna use the term fucks loosely. 

Speaker 2: I think it's more dry-humping? Does his diaper have a little weeby hole? 

Speaker 3: I think it's more of him just kind of rubbing his weenus on the side of the bed and just trying to get off. I think that's all he's got. 

Speaker 1: He probably plays the game, like you know. You have to guess whether it's his dick or his finger. All right, continue tonight. 

Speaker 3: They have been interviewing an expanding group of low-level workers at the compound who were involved in securing the material in a storage room or maintaining the surveillance footage. One such worker and information technology employee named Yusil Tavares recently appeared before a grand jury in Washington. During his testimony, tavares was asked about his interactions with two other Trump employees Walt Nada, a longtime aide who served as one of Trump's valets in the White House, and Carlos de la Vera. they're described as the head of maintenance at Moralago, so that's who he was hanging out with. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, walt Nada is that guy who was presumably cooperating, but probably not cooperating truthfully enough, and so the fans was like we got to get more back up on this one, this one. This sounds like some shady shit. So now the guy is buddy in here. 

Speaker 3: Really, yes, The focus on Tavares stemmed from a phone call he received from de la Vera last summer, shortly after prosecutors had issued a subpoena to the Trump organization for the surveillance camera footage in his storage room. This called your attention because it coincided with de la Vera's assisting Nada and moving boxes of documents into the storage room, with de la Vera had previously fitted with a lock. Significantly, this movement of boxes occurred just before prosecutors arrived at Mar-a-Lago for a meeting with Trump's lawyers, aiming to see secure his compliance in returning all classified documents. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, they was moving the boxes around right before the fucking fair showed up. It's shady and suspicious as fuck. 

Speaker 3: That's why the fair And it looks like he made the immigrants do it. 

Speaker 1: Well, honey, that's just because only brown people work there. Yeah, he hates the quote, unquote illegal immigrants, but yet all he does is hire. Anyway, continue Yes. 

Speaker 3: Although the Trump organization eventually turned over the surveillance tapes, Smith's prosecutors are now examining whether someone within Trump's orbit attempted to limit the amount of footage provided to the government. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, So after they moved the boxes around, they was trying to call up the security. You'd be like, Hey man, it's a fucking camera here. Did we just get caught on tape? Are we on candy camera? 

Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah it got caught on tape. 

Speaker 1: You're okay. 

Speaker 3: During Tavares's grand jury appearance, prosecutors posed an open ended question about whether anyone had asked him about the possibility of deleting surveillance footage. The outcome of Tavares's testimony and its impact on determining evidence, with the surrender of the surveillance tapes, remain undisclosed. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, determining interference with it. Anyway, yes, all right. So we don't know the content of his testimony in that regard, but if he does happen to finger some individuals and not like Trump's penis finger, but like point out individuals who might have actually been responsible for altering the surveillance footage And we haven't had any accounts to necessarily say that for sure yes, the footage was altered, but the way these I don't know. I guess the sources for these multiple news articles surrounding the surveillance footage in Mar-a-Lago and what prosecutors are looking for it absolutely has to have been altered in some way, shape or form, otherwise they wouldn't be asking all these fucking questions. 

Speaker 3: Yeah, and they. Well, i'm pretty sure that they're just more concerned that they were on the tape. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, What I'm saying is is that prosecutors, i would imagine, know the answer as to whether or not the footage was altered, and they're looking for the individuals who altered it, but they don't want to come out and say, yes, the footage was altered, wasn't you? They just want to ask questions and see who lies, And this is one of the ways in which prosecutors actually wrap up individuals into potential crimes, offer them plea deals and have them cooperate. Right, you asked them questions that you don't know the answer to So. 

Speaker 3: they were concerned about being on the tape but not concerned about doing shit that would be on the tape. Is that what I'm getting? 

Speaker 2: Well, yeah, as long as you just don't want to get caught, right? 

Speaker 1: Well, i don't yes, exactly, You don't want to. you want to commit the crime, but you don't want to have surveillance footage. 

Speaker 3: You don't want to do the crime. I wore that. I wore wearing sheets and giggle shirts and you didn't even tell me to bring my No. 

Speaker 2: I am. I got mine on proudly. I got mine on proudly. Yeah, i just wanted to wrap for the I wanted to wrap for the pot. 

Speaker 1: I mean wrap for our sponsor, even though, like no one will actually see this shirt on the pot. 

Speaker 3: I would love that. I'm going to know that. Hi, stevie, i got my cutie new hair. Yeah, that's Stevie. Hey, steve, yeah. 

Speaker 1: When I do, when I start my only fans, my very first picture will be of me in this shirt. All right, I don't even remember where we were anymore. 

Speaker 3: Okay. This focus on the security tapes represents the latest effort by Smith and his team to investigate potential destructive behavior by Trump or his aides. The prosecutors are examining whether Trump engaged in a pattern of obstructing government officials across various agencies for over a year. 

Speaker 3: This includes a spoiler alert He did The structure of the Justice Department, which is you disappear for all classified documents and Trump's position, as well as the National Archives, which sought the return of presidential records, some of which contain classified material. Now I was listening to the bull work today and Charlie Sight saying that it's more centered not on obstruction, but the SP Anarch that he was like all of the everything is related to the SP Anarch, not obstruction, so that is going to be. 

Speaker 1: I mean, i don't disagree with the fact that they're like I'm sure they are absolutely looking at SP Anarch, but people who weren't necessarily like looking at the actual documents but were aware they were there. Like you can wrap up those people in obstruction charges easier than you can in SP Anarch if they didn't actually. 

Speaker 3: You know what I've noticed? I've noticed that Saudi Arabia is all over the fucking place. I was looking at something. Today We're talking about soccer, soccer players. Um what? Massey, like a bunch of like big players? 

Speaker 1: Yes, it's a lot going on in the sports washing world. We don't have time for that on this podcast, sadly, because I've made the notes too long. 

Speaker 3: And sports small world. Oh, just on another note D, i was going to apologize to Max. 

Speaker 1: We don't know how to do that, like continue with the notes. Yeah, we don't have to even know, no need. Love you, max Kellevin, let's move on. 

Speaker 3: We're just going to leave them, okay. All right, we're just going to move on, okay. 

Speaker 1: Oh, I don't even remember. 

Speaker 3: That was like he's a good guy, so I'm good. I mean uh, look we have. 

Speaker 1: we all have some flubs. If you're going to record yourself speaking um on TV or in podcasts for hours a day, you know five days a week for decades occasionally you are going to get a little too comfortable and say something that some people might find inappropriate. But in this particular instance, the thing you were arguing with Max about is that's fair. Max got too much credit in D streets for anyone to be giving him a hard time about making what could have been inferred as a semi-intensive I will say, well, i will. 

Speaker 3: I do stand by that he's a hack, but I don't know the gun on that. 

Speaker 1: It can't be the wrong way, Wait wait, i don't want to address that too, cause I was like, oh, he ain't a heck. Well, he kind of was on first take, but that's not his fault, that's just what the show is Like. That's not, that's not even the type of show he wanted to do, and like he'll I mean he wouldn't specifically lay this out, but like you know what he does on other shows versus the way first take was set up, which is really the reason why they got him out of there, cause, like they just want to have fun and argue about shit And Max, we wanted to make too fine of a nuance point but, like on first take, it still comes across as him being kind of a hack. But that's what first take is. 

Speaker 3: And you know what? You're right, because I wasn't, you know, except for like boxing, cause I love boxing but watching Max on that, and then first take, because I did like the other. well, i liked cold pizza too. Like I liked cold pizza and I liked first take. and I liked Steve being on there. Um, steve A every now and then you know, he came on, he argued with skip. skip is a diehard cowboy, he's a diehard. I'm a new fan, so that was like kind of fun. But Stephen A every fucking day? No, no man. 

Speaker 1: I like Stephen A too, but I don't like first take Stephen A. I don't. 

Speaker 2: I don't enjoy it. 

Speaker 1: The way that show is formatted is not for an audience of individuals who consume sports and who consume sports. No wait, i wouldn't know just the way that I consume sports and sports media. I'm not the target audience. 

Speaker 3: No, but it's like I used to watch, like I would get up every morning. I wanted to be a sports writer. I get up every morning at like six o'clock and I'd watch Mike and Mike. 

Speaker 1: Did see. that's more in line with the type of show that I would be interested in. 

Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I'd ask the mic and Mike, and then I'd watch first take, and then of course they'd go through it again. Then I'd kind of switch over and then I'd watch How hard. Now he's just fucking weird. I can't really take too much of it, but I spent literally eight hours of the day. 

Speaker 1: But okay, back to trying to figure out how to do the sports writing thing. Yeah, I heard it's in. it's also interesting because again we look we're doing a podcast in just the short side tangent about Cal Her, while Carol's totally checked out here. I am fascinated by anyone who can just like turn on the microphone and talk for three hours by themselves. Because I've tried to do it. 

Speaker 3: It is very Yeah, No you're right, he did do a good job, but I liked him better than then. After like his like classic surgery and shit I've turned it to over the past 10 years. 

Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of and that's not to say that like I don't respect the work that he does, Like I just don't like the character that he portrays again. And this is the same thing, It's the same issue. 

Speaker 3: Not talking to you. 

Speaker 1: I know I'm not baby tonight. Anyway, Carol, where the fuck were we? 

Speaker 3: Okay, no, we are back to there. 

Speaker 1: To there is All right. Yeah, sports media side tangent over. Okay. 

Speaker 3: So, while there is no indication that to various is a subject of the investigation, all three individuals to various they'll have era and not have faced extensive questioning regarding their roles and handling the boxes and tapes. Jones aides maintain that no improper actions took place and that the activities in question were either part of the efforts to comply with subpoenas or routine conversations. They were unaware of the existence of the Justice Department subpoenas for the security footage and classified documents. So they didn't get the cloth, So they didn't get the documents. 

Speaker 1: No, they weren't aware. So they say at the time of moving the documents they weren't aware of the subpoena. 

Speaker 3: Oh, they weren't aware. Then did they think it was tough. 

Speaker 1: Well, i'm sure they didn't understand the full context of Trump's communications with NARA, fbi, right, because that's something Trump and his legal team specifically would have been handling. These dudes just work there, right? They just follow orders from Trump. They're not communicating with the Department of Justice. 

Speaker 3: And that's okay. I don't know if I'm buying that, though because why do they? 

Speaker 1: Oh no, i'm not saying I buy it, i'm just saying presumably they might not necessarily have actually even been aware of the subpoena. They were just fucking around on Trump's orders. 

Speaker 3: Yeah, but they, I don't know. I feel like. 

Speaker 1: Once the FBI shows up to get the envelopes from Trump's lawyer. Now I feel like at that point, like we're probably spread A year. 

Speaker 3: Can you believe it's almost been a year since the search? I was like holy shit, we're like just two, three months away. 

Speaker 1: Well, what's really fucking crazy is, when we started this podcast, we had no idea that all this shit was going to unfold, and we're like all right time to pivot. Whole idea of the podcast took a turn because Trump can't stop cramming Um Carol was looking for stop. Can you tell me where we were again, or were you not paying? 

Speaker 3: attention. But yeah, like it's just so crazy, because when we just started we were just like, oh, let's just talk about the inspiration. Then it was like a whole bunch of other shit. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's been constant shit ever since Trump's not even in office and he's dominating the fucking podcast. 

Speaker 3: How many, how many episodes have we done so far? 

Speaker 1: So far we're in the 70s, okay. 

Speaker 3: Well, i was listening to. I hate the fever dreams. Fever dreams is not on anymore, um, because I really loved that pod. Yeah, will summer is hilarious, but when they before they decided that they were not going to be on anymore, um, as co-host was like we had a hundred episodes. That's like 1% of all caught podcasts survived 100 episodes. So if we can just hang in there, Hey, yeah, you know it's a funny. 

Speaker 1: Okay, it looks just broader. We keep going into these fucking side tattens. Yeah, so most podcasts don't even make it to 10 episodes. Oh, like a surprising number Like 90% of podcasts don't reach 10 episodes. 

Speaker 3: Um, so we had our seventh, we had our 50th episode, which was that was a really good episode. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, just even getting to 50 is a fucking accomplishment, because people just fucking fade out Um, and certainly getting to 100 is is a serious milestone. That's like getting to 100 episodes and just like one person listening to every episode is a fucking accomplishment, because you'd be surprised, just statistically, how rare that is. Anyway, okay, i guess we can continue now. 

Speaker 3: Nevertheless nevertheless, the interaction surrounding the security tapes have raised suspicions among Smith's investigators, who approach several individuals connected to Trump with skepticism. 

Speaker 1: They skeptical, just like you are, and reasonably so. 

Speaker 3: Additionally, the prosecutors scrutiny extends to Trump's political action committee Save America, which has come under investigation for potential fundraising improprieties. That was cute Cause we all know that was some fraud. 

Speaker 1: Yeah, Just reiterate this further. Everything that Trump has ever done is currently under criminal investigation. Like I, just in case you forgot. Like okay, I just not. Not only is more logo under investigation for the documents. Like SUV, not much crying man. 

Speaker 3: So much crying, wait Yeah. 

Speaker 1: Trump is under investigation, but also true social is under investigation but also the SPAC that was supposed to merge with true social is under investigation, but also Trump's businesses. Trump org is under investigation in multiple jurisdictions. He's got a lot going on. Oh and his campaign is under investigation.