Stepping Out of the Taboo Zone: Embracing Open Conversations About Faith and Beliefs

Join Rachel Garrett as she courageously steps out of the taboo zone to explore open and honest conversations about faith and beliefs. This episode provides valuable insights for healing practitioners and seekers focused on awakening, spiritual growth, and soul healing practices. Discover how spiritual mentorship, inner light work, and aligning with your soul purpose can help you foster understanding and authenticity in your spiritual journey.

On this episode of A Tale of Two Sisters, we delve into some of today's most controversial issues- religious freedom, teaching religion in schools, and respecting people's beliefs. 

We will  explore conflicting beliefs about being gay and how it has become more political. Recommendations are made on how social influencers and celebrities can keep their political views to themselves to avoid tainting fans' opinions. 

 The episode also covers the importance of personal responsibility in verifying information and questioning what we are taught to ensure accuracy. 

Topics Covered in Podcast Episode:

- Introduction: Beliefs about Being Gay and Trans
  - Political Treatment of Being Gay
  - Boycotts of Companies Supporting Trans Rights
  - Religion and Political Party Affiliation's Effect on Beliefs
  - Speaker is Republican and Disagrees with Conflating Issues
  - Point of Social Influencers is to Influence People through Personal Takes
- Should Actors Keep Their Personal Opinions Private?
  - Enjoyment of Actors Based on Talent and Not Opinion
  - Tainting Enjoyment of Actor’s Work with Knowledge of Their Opinion
  - Speaker Hopes Actors Would Keep Personal Opinions to Themselves
  - Next Episode Will Be About Teaching in Lilydale
  - Lilydale – Large Spiritual Community Known for Psychics
  - Host Teaching Two Classes in Lilydale with Her Sister’s Help
  - Energy in Lilydale is "Off The Charts"
  - Language and Tradition: Harmful Phrases
  - Example of Subjectivity of the Word "God" 
  - Suggestion for Parents to Introduce Their Children to Different Religions 
  - Opinion on Teaching Religion in Schools
  - Placing Children's Education Needs as Top Priority
  - Need for Everyone to Vet Information on their Own
  - Differences in Beliefs Can Still Lead to Agreement 
  - Rapid-Fire Questions: Children Learning All Major Religi

Transcript

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You. Hello, everyone. Welcome to their episode of A Tale of Two Sisters. I am joined by my sister Jessica. Hello, Jessica. Hello. So Jessica and I had a recent conversation, and we kind of came to the conclusion that as an atheist and a person that's spiritual, we kind of have a lot of the same feelings on things. And maybe it's just because we're trying to be polite sisters and we don't want to get into an argument. So we're going to change things up a little bit today, and we are going to go through don't mind my dog some questions. And I think Jessica and I can just do rapid fire answers. And if there's a topic that we want to sidewide into, then that's what we'll do. I think this is going to be fun. So questioning religion in a respectful and critical way should allow everyone the chance to truly understand their virtues being relayed to them and encourages clarity and hopefully a meaningful dialogue. Question number one, and I'm curious to see how we kind of we did not prep for this. We just have the questions ready to go, and we'll see what comes out and we'll cover some of them because I got quite a few. Number one, children should be taught a comprehensive and detailed overview of all the major religions at school. At school. I don't think it needs to be at school. I think that should be something you should do at home, and I think it should also be based on the kid. I know for my own experience, my daughter came home and was asking different questions about religion. And I went and I totally just get it. And I bought this giant kid world religion book that talk about Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, and then I was like, here, let's go through all of these things. And it was a little too heavy, and she got overwhelmed and she shut down. And I think my enthusiasm for all the different faiths may have not translated to her, but she also could have been young. But I know I also didn't want to not give her any knowledge base on religion. So I have told her the stories in the Bible. So she knows about Noah's Ark, she knows about all the basic stories. But I don't know necessarily if I would make that be something that would be mandated from school. I would agree with that. But I also think that as you get into maybe college, there should be opportunities or maybe even high school opportunities to take a class, if you choose to take the class. Yeah, I agree. So have the option, but it's not mandated where? Because I don't know. I do remember in high school, again, I went to school in Canada, and I know we did have a world religion class in high school, and I thought it was fascinating, but it was an elective, like you said, and I did really like it and I appreciated that that was an option. So, yeah, I agree. It should be something that's not forced because you want to enjoy it. And I think if it's not forced, it's going to be more receptive. And maybe on a side note, I think as parents, we should maybe introduce a little bit about different religions and different belief systems, and there's not one thing that fits all. We're not all Catholics, we're not all Methodists, we're not all Buddhists. There's all different kinds of religions. But I guess if that's not within your wheelhouse and something you don't feel comfortable with, I'd be curious to see about how if a young child is asking and to see how that conversation unfolds. But I think for me, I like the idea of when my child asks, I'll be able to provide them with answers, but I'm not going to force it down their throat. Question number two should famous people and other well known public figures in our daily lives keep their faith or religion private? No. If your religion makes that part of who you are, I don't think you should go out. And I'm not a big huge fan of proselytizing your religion and shoving it in people's faces. I guess that's a counterintuitive kind of answer, too, because I know a lot of evangelical. Part of your mission is to go and proselytize, so I guess it really depends. No. Wow. Rachel Clary it's hard because part of me is like, you should be proud about your religion and you should be able to own it. But I also think just because you have a large platform doesn't give you the permission to preach. Right. Like, I don't want to be chastised or condemned because this famous person believes this way and I believe this way. Just because you're famous doesn't make your beliefs more important than mine. Right. Maybe it's more asking them to not make it so overt. You're wearing a cross, you're wearing the Star of David. Those are signs that that's your faith and you're having the bracelet from Buddhism. I guess I'm not asking anyone to hide their faith because that would seem wrong and judgmental, but I don't necessarily know I would want them to be putting it out there. But again, wow, that's such a specific thing because if it's a celebrity and the reason you're responding them, like candice what's her name? Candace. Candace cameron beret Cameron. Right. Like, I'm aware. And her brother Cameron, oh, my gosh, whatever. We watched him when we were kids. But if you're going to her, you know why you're going? It's for her. Faith based television, I guess. But I feel like I stopped following Cameron Bright because I felt like she was getting kind of judgy. And maybe that's just my interpretation and my perception, and I felt that it was a better than now kind of feeling, and I was becoming uncomfortable with that. For me, it goes along the same lines of should they be talking about their political beliefs? And when they get onto a political platform and it's like celebrities can really, I feel, sway elections and whatnot. And I think that takes away some of the power from the people. Yeah. I think one of the biggest things is if you're going for a social influencer, the whole point is to influence you. You're going to them for their personal take on things. But if I'm going to an actor, I specifically thought when you said that was Chris Pratt, I loved his movies. Not saying that because his political views are different than mine, I all of a sudden don't like him. But it did kind of taint it for me because I really loved him as an actor and I loved the movie was in. But then I felt when I heard about his personal opinions on things, it didn't make it feel as enjoyable. So I guess it's like if you're looking at them as their career, like, you're an actor, you're a singer, I'm going to you for your talents in that way. Then I guess maybe I'm hoping you can kind of keep those personal things to yourself because it has nothing to do with your craft. You're right. It doesn't. Right. That should be I'm going to you for you to tell me your opinions. Like I solicited those. So I guess it depends on who you're going to. But I think the one thing I do want to say is that if you are a famous person or a well known public figure, and if you are putting it out there, then prepare for there could be potential backlash, right? Mel Gibson. Hey. Exactly. It's very interesting. And I think, like you said, I don't want to be swayed by celebrity culture. And that has really nothing to do with about the religious beliefs or anything, but I feel like media is so skewed now and I don't know if we get the real truth of what things that are going on. And it's hard for me with celebrity culture is hard. It's a hard thing for me moving on. Religions of all kinds around the world are a force for good and positive change in the world. I would hope that's true. I would say that let's look up the Catholic Church. Right? I mean, how many people have come out now about sexual abuse? I would hope that, like you said, that there are I think they have good intentions, but I think people get corrupted by power and that may not be their religious beliefs. That's more of their power, hunger and they're siding into ego and then they take advantage of people in inappropriate ways. Or even like the basis of the faith. The faith like Catholics saying I'm the right and you're the wrong. Having that actually be a tenant in the religion where it's like, well, we're going to go to heaven. And because you're not like this version of Catholicism, then you got to go. See you later. Have fun downtown. I don't know. Yeah. I would hope that the origination of all religion is to bring people together and bring hope and faith and bring. Community, bring a sense of goodwill, right. Not do harm to others. But I even look at there are some real prominent spiritual leaders who have they've kind of fallen off their path, and it's sad. And I think that's why you shouldn't put all of your eggs in a human basket. Yeah. And you have to be your own advocate. You have to actually look at things and vet it for yourself. Don't just hear it and regurgitate it. I think the tougher thing is when you hear someone say something that you know is not correct, and then they regurgitate it to you. This happened the other day where this woman said something that was absolutely wrong, and I didn't correct her because I didn't know her very well. And I was like, that's completely. And I had vetted it because I heard I'm like, that sounds like nonsense. So I think as people, we need to get better at assessing something and checking the validity before we just go, hey, I learned this on Facebook, and blah, blah, blah, be more responsible humans, and then you can trust each other's faith more because, you know it's based on truth and not conjecture or other ridiculousness. No, that's a really good point, because I think we have a tendency to fall down rabbit holes, and it's completely misinformation, and it's sad because it does a disservice to a lot of people. Moving on. Do Christians really oppose gay marriage? I don't know Christian either. Well, I feel like some people use it as a guise to not agree with something. I think ultimately, God is going to love all, and I would think that who you love shouldn't be a sin, regardless of the type of person you love. As a Christian, I think it's sad that I think people have fallen on the sword of, well, it's Christianity and it's against Christian. And I don't think that's true. I notice a lot that it seems now it seems if you believe that being gay is right or wrong or whatever, it seems more of a political thing. I heard someone very recently say, well, I don't like Disney anymore because they're for trans rights. And I'm like, what? And them saying, well, God wouldn't like Disney. I'm like, okay. And I'm a Republican, so I don't like this. I'm like, my goodness. It's like you've decided that your belief, if someone's allowed to be gay or not, as if you have any say in this conversation, was based on your religion, was based on your political party and their current problem with Disney. It's like, we couldn't break those we couldn't parse those apart. Now, look, at the state of Florida who's now suffering because of Disney backing out of deals. It's like, guys, there's consequences to your beliefs. Right. Or your false beliefs. Right. And if you genuinely believe it so wholeheartedly, then don't be like, well, I think I'm going to watch this new Disney movie because I really want to watch it. It's like, okay, well, pick a lane completely and decide you are no longer going to love Tinkerbell and just like, take that bumper sticker off your car. In the trash in the bin. Goodbye. Bye. Many religions promote the formation of a traditional family, where there are two parents, one male, one female with children. Given that modern life is a host of variety of family units, do we really need to promote a traditional family? I think it could be something as simple as family. It doesn't even need the term traditional. Like, let's just eliminate that. And a family is anybody who loves each other, who cares about each other, because you could be adopted. You didn't really get along with your biological family, but the friends you made outside of your life, in your circumstances, you met those people and they became your family. You're right or die. And I don't need to have a biological connection to any of them for them to be my family. So I think that's antiquated, unnecessary and I don't know, limiting. Yeah, I would agree with you. I think as long as as a parent, you are providing a safe house for your family. You are loving, you are caring. Like you said, we can pick our family. Right? Who cares? Seriously, mom, dad. You could have a terrible mom. A terrible mom. You have a terrible mom and a terrible dad. Is that traditional? Yeah, it's like, okay, I always made the joke they should have raised rattlesnakes, but they're allowed to because they're a biological male and a female and they're together. Should they have had kids? Hell no. Like, move on. Nah. Yeah, because there's terrible traditional families. Yes, they are. Amen. Is Satanism a valid religion? I don't think I have if I if I am okay with saying Christianity is fine and all its different versions and Hinduism is fine, spirituality, if everything else is fine, then why do I have the right to say Satanism is fine? It's not my thing. If that's your belief system, that you believe in Satan and I don't know, then I'm not going to be hypocrite. Yeah, that's valid. Should governments be able to create laws to prevent people of a particular faith to enter their borders? To prevent people of a particular faith to enter their borders? No. It's a stupid question. No, it does. But in our country, the reason we left was for religious prosecution, persecution. We left for that reason. And then for us to persecute other people for their religion is just the hypocrisy. Look at our history. Go and look at any of our Founding Fathers. They are not big Christian people. They're not. The US. Pledge of Allegiance uses the phrases one nation under God. Should this phrase be removed? Oh, that's where you get into the idea of heritage and tradition and its original meaning and does it really hurt anyone if you say it? And all those kind of things. And personally, that doesn't really bother me. I don't necessarily think that anyone's life will be better or worse if you remove it, because if we're not dictating that God is actually this, like, if you say God, I'm eating this God. Because you can say God. It could be anyone's God. And if you're an atheist, it doesn't matter because you don't care if there's a God. You've accepted the fact that your allowance or necessity of God is different than everyone else's. So I'm not going to spend my time being offended by a phrase. And I also think, like, do we need to say the Pledge of Allegiance? Right? And it was something that you did. Did I really sit there and ever break down the meaning? Maybe I should have, but I didn't. It was just something you were told to do in the morning. You have to sing the Canadian anthem. I'm sure everyone has their own thing, and it did not affect me positively or negatively. So let's move on to things that are more important. So true. So true. Does religion cause more conflict than it solves? Yes. Do animals have souls and where do they go when they pass away? Animals have souls? Absolutely. You incarnate. I mean, it's a living being. So to say that if I believe that I have a soul, then am I better than my dog? No, I believe my dog has a soul, and I believe my dog is going to go to heaven and I'm. Going to see my dog and we're going to snaggle. For me, Jessica doesn't believe in this. So for me, I definitely believe that animals have souls, and I also believe that they go to heaven when they pass away. But I don't think animals are lesser than humans. So whatever a human is given, I think an animal should be given the same. Yeah. Did God wait, no, you didn't read that. That face was awesome. We need to be on actual video. I'm reading it. Did God create men and women for each other's pleasure? What? I don't think God was like, yeah, let's get it on, baby. I feel like when they created man and woman, it was to grow the population and it was to kind of fill the planet. And I don't know if it was to be for each other's pleasure, because if a man and a man can give each other pleasure and a woman and woman can give each other pleasure or transgender. I mean, I don't know. It's an odd question. And maybe part of it. Yes, and maybe part of it? No. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what God was thinking. Right. Yeah. I don't think that sex should just be about making a baby. So if pleasure is involved, that's awesome. And I don't think who's getting it or who's giving it or its intention is relevant. What comes to mind for me is the removal of the clitoris. I was thinking that how yes, women are not allowed to have pleasure. The clitoris, that is just. That'S torturous. Right. That's just cruel. For no reason other than you're not allowed to have but the harm that that would do to your psyche and your physical well being and your health, I just couldn't imagine deciding to do that to someone. So I think what our answer is, is that we believe that he gave us the ability to have pleasure. So I don't think he necessarily created men and women for each other's pleasure, maybe for your own pleasure. Right. So then are we going down a completely different path and say, do you believe in creationism and evolution? So did the monkeys like to have get it on and then that just came on down and we got there? Yeah. I feel like that's a very troublesome question. The troublesome question I'm going to ask Jane. Goodall. She'll know. Okay. Good. Segue was it wrong of the Catholic Church to encourage people not to use contraception? Absolutely. Okay. I think from their point of view, they probably were doing it because they wanted to selfishly. Well, in their own best interest, they wanted to increase the population of Catholics. That's probably what their thought was after. That is an irresponsible. We have overpopulation. You don't have enough food. You can't take care of everyone. It is your own personal choice if you want more children or not. Who needs six children? If you do, I apologize for saying who needs them, but in general, I feel like that's an again, a dated idea, and it should be none of the Church's business, honestly. It comes down to your family, and if you want to have that amount of children and you can take care of them absolutely right. But if you're somebody who's just well, I'm not supposed to contraceptive. It's irresponsible. And to elaborate at that, I have a friend, and he is a very devout Catholic, and him and his wife have wanted kids forever, and they're having fertility problems, but within their version of Catholicism, they're, again, more strict. They're not allowed to get IVF, they're not allowed to get fertility drugs. They're not allowed to do any methods to assist them in fertility. So they don't have children. And it is every time it comes up, you can just see the sadness in their faces. And it's all because their faith doesn't allow them to do it. They've tried adoption, all the different things, but again, it seems so limited, and they're like, well, my faith says I can't. Not that I don't want to, but. My faith says and then it's like you sit there and like, well, why is God punishing me? I'm devout in my beliefs. I am living a good life, and. I would make a great person. I'd be a great parent. I'm a contributing member of society. And then you see. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. Do religions around the world encourage prejudice, sexism, and racism? Yes, absolutely. Children attending school should sing religious hymns during assemblies. No. Let'S debate that farther. No, I mean, okay, Jessica and I both we've talked about this before. We both went to Catholic schools and we had to go to Mass, but then we were excluded because we couldn't receive Communion, but then we were told we were sinners because we weren't Catholic. So it's very much like yeah. So right there we were judged because we were Baptists. Ask any questions to the faith and yeah, just nah. Can religious war ever be justified? No. Pope Francis has said that domestic violence offender should be forgiven. Do you think he's right? No, I think it's a tough one. I think if you are somebody who perpetrates abuse towards others, I don't know, that opens up a broader common. What does he mean by forgiven? Is it kind of like the are you have you been punished? Right. So is he saying, you can go into the magic booth and say, I did this bad thing and you're going to do ten Hail Marys and that's okay? That's your forgiven? Is that your penance? So that's not cool, but if you go and have an actual legal consequence, then yes, you should be forgiven afterward. I guess the other thing is that our prison system is overpopulated. It really doesn't rehabilitate offenders. I think if we had a prison system that really was like, okay, teaching you how to be a better person, how to be a better person, I'm not sure if the United States does a good job with that. And I think it's, like, overpopulation and overcrowding, and I think there's a lot of violence that goes on, and I don't know necessarily, but I think if you actually, like you said, there's a consequence to your actions, and then you're truly remorseful after you've done that penance, then maybe there is an opportunity to be forgiven. And I think it also depends on the crime. Right, exactly. Did I smack you on your shoulder? I mean, that's domestic abuse, but was I just joking around or did I. Shoot you in therapy? Yeah, exactly. Again, I think that just there's so much to it, like, where you have used it as a child, and you haven't worked through those issues, and you haven't gone through therapy, you haven't done the work or been able to do the work to correct your actions and not continue that. Yeah, absolutely. I feel like there's a lot more to that question. I agree. With you. Has humanity outgrown faith based institutions? No. I think it depends on which faith based institution it is. For me, I think what I'm saying is why? I don't think it is is the thing that they get from the faith based community is community. So if there's a way for people to get together and have community without faith, I feel like that's necessary. That's all that you really need is the community. But I don't think people choose to get together unless there's the faith to connect them. I would agree with you there, but I do feel like there are faith based institutions that have cult like mentality and that take advantage of people. And I think some of humanity has outgrown that agree is countries which are more religious tend to be less economically developed. I don't know the answer. I'm going to say I don't know the answer to that because. We don't have any research to back that up. Like, I could say Brazil is more of a Catholic country, so is Mexico, but we don't have enough statistics or a knowledge base to have any opinion on that. Yeah, I want to know the answer of that because I feel like moving. On, we're going to make assumptions and we're not wanting we don't want to do that. Yeah. Okay. It is commonly said that on Earth there is only one true religion. If there is a God, why would he allow to the creation of so many false faiths? To distract us from our true path. I'm going to take that. So I'm going to say that I do not believe that there is one true religion. And I think that people have the right to believe in what they want to believe in as long as it's healthy, it makes them feel good, it makes you a contributing member of society. If I believe in 50 different gods, that doesn't make me less of a person. Or if I believe in one God, doesn't make me less of a person. And I think that there is not one true God. If there was one true God, then there wouldn't be the creation of so many different faiths that are man made. Yeah. I always love this thing. This one woman said, I believe in all paths to God. I believe in the right for everyone to believe in any path to God that they believe. I love that. Are there any lost pages in religious texts that would overall change the meaning, interpretation, understanding of the text? Well, we're not going to know that. If they're lost, they're lost. We couldn't know that, right? I mean, I know that there's been a lot of manuscripts that have been lost or burnt and stuff like that, especially now with a lot of the war they have in Syria. They've lost a lot of the ancient texts, so we wouldn't know. But yeah, I'm sure there's documents. If you think about the different times in the past that people have gotten together and decided which ones went into the Bible and which ones didn't. If we could all get a look at the rest, I'm sure we would change a lot of things. But again, I'm sure those are gone. I would agree with you there. In some faiths, organ transplants, organ donations, blood transfusions are prohibited. If someone dies as a result of refusing to use these medical procedures, are they guilty of murder? Yes. So it's like Scientology, right? Not Scientology. Which one's? The one Jehovah Witness where you're not allowed to do any medical innovation. Is that the Jehovah's Witnesses? I think there's another one. I remember when we were kids, there was a church that had it was. Like, well, I mean, Scientology, they don't believe in using antidepressants. Yeah, but answer the question. I'm looking that up. It sounds so judgmental to say that I would charge someone else with murder because of their faith. But should their faith out rule the safety of a child? Let's say the child was really sick and needed treatment. Jehovah's Witnesses are the ones that prohibited. Do they get, like, a religious exemption, then? They do. They do. Interesting. Well, I mean, it's kind of like with maybe vaccinations. I mean, some people do. They say, this is against my religion. And I think if your faith is that strong and as long as they understand the consequences of your decision, then that's a right they have to make. What if it's with a minor? So let's say my daughter is six and I make the decision to not get her that medical treatment and my daughter dies because of that. But is it that the state then deciding what your religious beliefs are, right? Because she's not old enough to make the decision? No, I don't want this kidney. Or yes, I do. She can't override my decision. But that's your legal guardian that can make your legal decisions. I think that's a very interesting question, and I think I see both sides because you're right. Like, if I'm six and I need a blood transfusion to save my life and I want to live, and my. Mom'S like, no. God will determine whether or not you can live or not. Go praise them more and see how it works out for you. But there have been cases of denial of getting fluids or transplants transfusions, kids starving for punishment because of their religious beliefs and the beatings. And I think that's where you get into that scary land of maybe not truly trusting your own discernment and what's right and putting your belief system into something that's not good for you. Right. Like the origination. So we're saying the origination of a faith that would require you to eliminate the ability to help your child might be a question. Yeah, but are we just being super judgy? I don't know. My dog agrees with you. Right. Then. It's like, I always think about the fact that we've eradicated polio pretty much, and then people chose not to get the polio vaccine, and then people are getting polio. So it's like my choice. Your choice. But maybe that's not a religious thing altogether. I don't know. No, I mean, I would agree with you there with the vaccinations, that's a tough one, because even the person that came out that said that these vaccinations cause autism, it determined to be a false claim, and it determined to not have any scientific basis. Right. And it is very like, now we do see a lot of polio and measles and mumps and things that haven't been around, and we're not going to have the treatment to take care of these things. Right. And now your choice from your faith could now infect my if I had a baby, you know what I mean? And they haven't had a chance to get the vaccination right. And it's too late. My kid is polio now, and the rest of their life is messed up because of your choice, based on your information. I don't know if that's that's a I don't know. I think that's the thing with religion, when it comes into infringing on the the life of others is where you you run into a problem. I would agree with you there. Religious clothing must be allowed to be worn in public. Yes. Well, I mean, because there should be their choice because there are times where how do you pronounce it? The hajib. There's a burka and the hajib. Yeah, the hajib. There are places where they're not allowed to wear it in public. But if that's your faith and that's your belief, then you should be able to wear it. Yeah, I just read about this the other day. Clergy should be allowed to marry. Yes. I would agree with you. We have a lot less scandals if you just let the guys get married, man. Or a woman. Also, like, women should be allowed to be priests. Absolutely. Who takes care of the household now? The woman. The woman is the one sorry, this is super, like feminist chica. Whatever, but I mean, who's the one that you go to? If you're hurt and you're in trouble and you need love, you go to your mother. So in your faith, if you're looking for someone to nurture and love you, why wouldn't you go to a woman? Why wouldn't you go to who you feel comfortable going to? Yeah. Who speaks to you? Last question. Oh, my gosh. Really? Well, I skipped a bunch of them. We can go back to more no, that's good. I thought we did well. Yeah. Are New Age religions and spirituality just diversion to the true word of God? Rachel will take this. I was like, you go for it, sweetheart. The answer is no. It's very interesting. I think these questions do bring up there's more opportunity to dig in and to really just kind of say, that's interesting. Anything else you'd like to add to our episode? No, this is fun. But we failed once again to be combative. We will work on it next time. We will argue. No, guys, the next episode I am so excited about because I am going to be teaching in Lilydale. And for those who know what Lilydale is, it is a very large psychic community, very religious community. Not religious, spiritual community in the world. And I am really happy that I'm going to be teaching two classes there and my sister is actually coming to help me. And the energy in Lilydale is off the charts. And I am very excited to get Jessica's perception and her feeling of is this kooky? Is this crazy? Or oh, my gosh, I really can feel this energy. I'm very curious to see what she thinks about this community and if she or she's like, guys, it's just whatever, which is fine. That's her. Right. And I personally have not been there. It's full circle for me as a spiritual person, that I went there when I was in my early twenty s and I had readings there and I really enjoyed it there. And to be able to come back over 20 years later and to be able to teach there for me is amazing. Really amazing. I'm so proud. So I am so excited. So our next episode coming up in June will all be all about Lilydale and Jessica's experience. I'm excited. I can't wait. I'm allowed to absorb it all and report back. Yes. We're going to be recording at Lilydale so not only she can't get away from it, guys, she will not be able to get away from it. I'm going to take her to the stumps. And am I getting murdered? Nice knowing you. It's against my religion. Just kidding. All right, well, everyone have a great evening and we'll see you soon. Bye,