Your Spiritual Gifts Turn On When You Stop Outsourcing Truth

Your life can look perfectly fine on paper and still feel misaligned in your bones. That quiet discomfort is where Pamela Downes begins: a creative entrepreneur and mom who always felt a little “different,” until grief and an unexpected psychic mediumship experience cracked her world open and made one question impossible to ignore: what is actually true for me?

We talk through the real mechanics of spiritual awakening and intuitive development, from exploring Reiki, shamanic journeys, and mentorship to building the kind of self-trust that holds up during divorce, recession stress, and big identity shifts. Pamela shares how her Rhythmia ayahuasca journey intensified her clairs, raised her frequency, and changed how she experiences guidance in everyday life. From there, she explains her ongoing connection with the Great Council of Light and the soul-body healing work she now offers, including clearing deep fear patterns, past life imprints, and what she calls the restoration of the soul’s natural architecture.

We also get grounded about discernment in a noisy era. Pamela breaks down why so many people feel awakening accelerating right now, how information overload can either hijack your nervous system or sharpen your inner knowing, and what “frequency hygiene” can look like in practical terms: less reactive arguing, more space, better nutrition, supportive relationships, nature, music, wonder, and slowing down enough to actually hear yourself.

If you want a conversation that blends spiritual healing, channeling, and practical intuition tips without pretending the path is easy, press play.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:02

Hello everyone. Welcome to our spiritual spotlight series. Today I am joined by Pamela Downs. She is a multidimensional soul-body healer, trans channeler, and spiritual guide who works directly with the great council of light to support humanity's awakening. She helps people to clear soul level imprints, reconnect with their inner guidance, and remember who they truly are beyond conditioning, trauma, and past life patterns. Pamela, thank you so much for coming on Spiritual Spotlight series. I'm so happy you're here.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

I'm so happy to be here. Talk about all the good stuff.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

Woo! All the juicy good stuff. So, Pamela, if you don't mind, I would like to begin with your backstory. Before spirit calling and before the work you do now, what was your life like?

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Am I you know? I was always

Welcome And Who Pamela Is

SPEAKER_01 0:50

the kind of person who was easy to get along with, was jovial, happy, creative. I lived in a bucolic little town, raised my kids, did all the things like everybody else. I've been an entrepreneur since the year 2000, which is a very long time now. What amazing. Now you see these people with their reels talking about. If you remember this movie and they were talking about this time frame, it means it was 1990, whatever, and you're like, I'm so old, I can't even relate anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

But um it is weird, it's a weird feeling.

SPEAKER_01 1:21

It's a weird feeling because the years and the decades and the seasons just continue to accumulate. You learn a lot, right? But um I was always somebody said, you know, I always felt a little weird. I always felt like I didn't 100% fit in. I always felt like I have this, I have this funny thing. I used to have these little tiny girlfriends, and I'm like 5'10, I don't know what I am now, and kind of long and gangly, and my body never fit into the clothing that was available to us back in the 80s and the 90s, and they never really fit in. I always felt like this different kind of woman, but or or young girl or young woman. But now I understand, like I I understand myself in so many different ways that this work has brought to me just by telling me who I used to be in different realities. And but I was always the kind of person who got along with people. I actually liked adults sometimes better than my peers, you know, and I was a hard worker and a lover and that that sort of thing, creative.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

So were you always spiritually open and intuitive, or did your gifts awaken later in life?

SPEAKER_01 2:30

Much later in life, yeah.

unknown 2:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

When I was a kid, I was really into music and art. So they say, you know, you're very tuned in with those sensibilities. Absolutely. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

That's that's really awesome that you were tuned into that and then like kind of traveled into this spiritually, you know, awakened path, which is amazing. So during your own awakening, you explored shamanic journeys, Reiki healing, Akashic Records work, and spiritual mentorship. What did you feel like you were searching out at that time?

SPEAKER_01 3:01

I was trying to understand what I believed in. I was trying to understand what it was that rung true to me because I had just broken out of something that I grew up in.

Leaving Old Beliefs Behind

SPEAKER_01 3:13

I had I started having dissonance. So that's that I don't, I'm not in alignment sort of situation. I'm not uh vibing with it anymore. I don't believe in that anymore. That's not what I are my truths anymore. You know, I often talk about this journey of like we grow up and are we're taught to trust our elders, our peers, our the people who are leading our faith and our educators, you know, we're taught to trust whatever they're saying, and we just dive into that, but then we go through a season, which is what I was just talking about, was of this discovery of like, I don't really believe in that anymore. And then I have to trust myself. What do I believe in? And that's what I was doing. I had just pushed out of the boundaries of that box that I was living in, and I was poking holes out and taking dips out into these other spaces, and I was starting to see things in a different way, and I had big questions and I wanted big answers, and I was finding them. So that's my spiritual journey. That's how it started. And it actually started with this question of love and you know, and God. And if God is love, then how is God, who is love, going to tell me whether I have eternal life or eternal damnation? That doesn't sound like love to me. Like there was just this whole breaking down, right? So that's how it started. And I went on down this rabbit hole of what do I believe in? What does this mean? What is this? Where did Jesus go? You know, I mean, everything you could think of, and things that I didn't really want to grab onto, like flat earth, which just came up as this conversation recently. I didn't, you know, I I grabbed onto what resonated at the time, and that was the beginning of it. You know, I always talk about the spiritual intelligence, it's the journey of the spiritual intelligence, it's the journey of the truth, it's the journey of evolving your technology, it's the journey of remembering yourself, it's the journey of discovery of self. And, you know, you start with the the I want to know, I want to know, I want to know. Then it's I want to do, I want to do, I want to do. And you start to have experiences like the shamanic journey and learning about Reiki and going to past life, you know, and reading the books. And that's how it started.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Oh, I love that. So you shared that you had a trusted mentor for eight years. How did that relationship support your awakening, your ability to trust your gifts?

SPEAKER_01 5:31

Oh, it was so good. And I just interviewed him for my podcast, and it's coming out this month, which is so we had like this full circle moment. He's like, it's just so cool to witness you now interviewing me. I'm like, I know. But when my father died, and he he he drank himself to death. He I was going through what I call my knockdown. My husband lost his job, we lost our home, we lost my company, was slowed down, like everything was hard in the recession. And my dad died before my eyes. It was a very small family experience, and I remember thinking, where the heck did he go? His body's here, but what he, he, go.

Grief That Opens The Door

unknown 6:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

And um, by no means of me pushing, striving, finagling, this ticket to the spiritual mediumship gallery came my way. I was actually desired to go. I told the girls I wanted to go, but somehow I wasn't included in this and I was kind of bummed. But this fully paid ticket, which I really didn't have the money to do anything extra like that, came my way. And this woman said, I can't go. It's yours. You're gonna have to give me the money. It's my gift to you. And I was like, wow. I didn't have to figure out how to get the kids watched. Like it all just happened, where that was my day, my time, that sort of thing. So I walked into the psychic medium gallery and I wound up sitting right in the front. And this man, Rich Brancone, he's a psychic medium. He walked in, said how the whole thing's gonna go down. And he said, he came right over to me and he said, Your father's here. He died of alcohol. It was his liver. Yes. He described it to a T. And then he said, He never told you how talented you are. He never told you how creative you are. And I was a musician and I was an artist. And he said, He's so sorry for how he treated you. He sees how he treated you, and he just he wants your forgiveness and he sees how you're doing in your life, and he wished that he could do better. I mean, really, really like things that were just my father and I. And that was it. My father sparked my awakening journey. Rich Brancone sparked my awakening journey. In another time and space, we all said we're gonna come down here and do this so that you, me, could now evolve into being what it is that I am here and now.

SPEAKER_03 7:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

But I went to him, I sought him out after that experience. I think I went to like some of his other galleries, and then I saw that he had sessions. And for 10 years, I went every six months, and I always booked two slots, and because I always knew someone would come with me. I never doubted that. And so I went every six months and I would schedule it out. Like he was so booked, I'd schedule it out two years in advance. Right, right. I was kept ahead of it. So when I was there, I'd do like two more years, you know. And what that gave me was the ability to hear from my grandmother on the other side. It gave me the support that I needed, it gave me a sounding board to talk about these new things that I was experiencing. It gave me wisdom, like my grand, like my marriage was ending, and um I went, I wouldn't make decisions until after I knew that I was going to see rich. And everything would always line up that way. And I remember my marriage was ending, and every year I would talk about it, and and every year I would want it to be better, and and it wasn't. And I was starting to get like knowings, and I just knew that the window was closing, I knew the timeline was changing, I knew I had to do the next thing right before I was going to say I can't do this anymore. I knew I was gonna see the psychic medium the week before, and I don't say anything and never said anything to him. And he didn't like remember me always or my stories because he saw so many people. Right, right. Like sat down and my grandmother came through and he said, you know, I hope I'm wrong, but your grandmother's saying that you're going to leave your marriage, and your grandmother's saying that you're gonna be okay, and your deepest worry is your girls, and you're gonna be okay. They're actually gonna be more empowered by seeing that mom chooses something different for her life. And you're actually, she's saying the first week of December, she's saying, like, you know, I already had planned a trip to be out of the house, so that it like it all just lined up. So he gave me this foundation I needed to make big ass choices, right? Right. But he also I would talk to him about what I was experiencing, I would talk to him about different experiences. Like it was such a gift, all of it was such a gift. And as I as I advanced and as I moved forward into my spiritual intelligence and technology, he was evolving. And so our relationship sort of had to change because he wasn't doing private sessions anymore. But I actually didn't need that level of support from him anymore. So, like it was the perfect timing of our relationship.

SPEAKER_02 10:24

I love that. I love that you booked an appointment to go back every six months. I will say that I feel the same way when I it's like for me, it's like a counselor check-in. And it's like, how am I doing? And what are we where are we going together? Like it's just it's just a nice moment to be witnessed, and you know, they're pulling in so many different energies that you're like, it's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

I still do that with Oh, you do? I do. I have a shaman and I have the psychic. I see both of them every six months around the same time. So they always give me everything I need. Like, just like at the it's the same thing, like they're they they give me exactly what I need. If if there's an expansion coming, if there's like this person that's showed up, like they know all about it. And it's somebody said to me, Why do you need to go to psychic? Well, what why do you need to go to the doctor? Like, you need to, I need support, everyone needs support. Sometimes you can't get out of your own way. We all need an outside perspective.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

Yeah, absolutely. 100%. It's definitely something that has helped me throughout my spiritual path and in my journey to be like, okay, what's going on? Let's do a check-in. So you had a profound part of your story happened at Rhythmia during your ayahuasca journey. What led you to that experience?

SPEAKER_01 11:40

It was my spiritual gifts were turning on. So, what came on first were my Claire's, all of them came on. So I was having dreams, I was having visions, I was hearing things, I was sensing things, I was knowing things, strong, deep knowings. And as I was expanding my intelligence about spiritual things, I was opening up the channels to my spiritual gifts. And I saw a video of this man who created this center, and I saw him. I had this deep resonance inside my body. I knew I was going to this place, I knew it was that place. There

Rhythmia And Psychic Abilities Expand

SPEAKER_01 12:19

was just, you know, nothing tell could tell me that it wasn't, it was that place. I had no desire to do plant medicine. I wasn't being swayed to do it, nobody was doing it around me. It was just my clair cognizance. And I knew it so strongly that at this point in my life, I was speaking my know my my truths. I was speaking my knowings because I just believed them so much, and they would come true. And I, you know, was also learned the law of attraction. So I was putting into practice understanding how the universe worked. I was manifesting like a like an MF or like it was like coming easy to me, like I understood how to do it. And I was opportunities were coming, people were coming, things were coming. And through me saying, and I was using yes and not no, I was using love and not fear. So coupling all these things, you know, together. I had the opportunity to do trade with a company and to work with this woman. And then I got to go to this event and I went, I walked into this conference room down in this event center in Florida, and I walked up to the owner of the company and I said, Steve, hi, it's Pamela. You don't know me, but I'm working on your company's marketing, and it's so nice to meet you. And he turned and he looked at me, and this energy came through both of our heads and out our heart, and this wah, wah, wah thing happened. And he said, Do you feel it? And I said, I do. And we wound up becoming good friends. He had to call me to find out what happened. Yeah. And when he talked to me, he said, Listen, Pamela, I'm on my way out to this country to do ayahuasca. And normally I don't talk to business colleagues about things like this, but I feel comfortable with you. And I said, Oh, ayahuasca, I'm going to Rhythmia Life Advancement Center to do that. I don't know when, I don't know how. And he goes, Pamela, I'm going there in the fall. And at that point, like no one was talking about this stuff. We became really good friends. I kept hearing with my Claire's that he was going to invite me to go. And what happened was he did. Normally, that center would be open to 100 people who were wanting to clear addiction, clear fear, trauma. Right. And they shut it down. He was a part of a group that was on the board there. They shut it down for a private group of people. There were only going to be 40 high conscious leaders, people who had already been working on themselves and their energy. And I just, you know, I didn't like have to figure it out. Spirit picked me up, put me into this place because it knew I had a lot of fear to release. And I needed to be in a more stabilized environment in order to do that medicine. And that's what happened after a week-long journey of doing that and clearing trauma from this life, from past lives, all of this understanding, all of this release, all of this karmic energy got released and my vibration raised. And we did a breath work class at the end of the week. And I had this white light shoot through my third eye, and my whole body filled up with frequency. My teeth were chattering, my head was buzzing. I felt love in its purest form. And I heard your psychic abilities have enhanced everything from this moment forward will be different. And that's what happened. I raised my frequency to a point, and this is what I help people do now. This is what I know I am here to do. I helped, I was able to raise my frequency in order to connect to, and there was a journey of connecting to different beings and different energies and different frequencies and entities. And that was my journey. And I had to go through that because I had to learn the whole ecosystem of all how it feels. But my ultimate connection was to the great council of light. So for six years, we're six years now, I worked with them. I worked with the guides that would come in. I said, okay, with intention every morning. Like you guys said, I received that message, man. You said everything was going to change. What does that mean? Let's do this together. And I worked every morning with an open heart, knowing and trusting, because my life had changed, seeing the evidence of my life change with this deep knowing and trust. And I started connecting with the super high frequency collective of beings. Didn't know at the time we're the council. But I used to think there was something outside of myself for a very long time. I thought I was connecting with these Thai beings that were my guides. I have come to learn and understand now through continuing to work with myself and healing still and raising my frequency that I am an incarnate aspect of the council. And I have created this technology in another space and time. And I have been pulling it for the last year down into my body, expending it like and using it on people and healing soul bodies, healing people, clearing in fractures, repairing actually very, very, you know, not holes, but but but fractures and things that need to be rebuilt. That's what I'm doing. And I'm watching people change their life. I'm watching people have realizations. I'm watching people marry this wisdom that I'm able to channel through messaging and clear clear understanding of who they are, what they've experienced, what they've done. And then with this healing of the body to merge into this, like I call it a superhuman. We're moving into this next new earth. We are as a species elevating and moving into the next part of what we're supposed to do. We've been healing this past, the past lower aspects of ourselves all these years. And now it is pulling up and getting into those higher aspects to realize us in this higher-dimensional state of being.

SPEAKER_02 17:48

Yeah. So that is your spirit calling. That's kind of what you do now. So you kind of alluded to this, like you received this vision and you were hearing the word spirit calling, and you know, and then you're able to evolve it into this amazing thing. So, how has spirit calling evolved from the original vision to what it is today?

SPEAKER_01 18:11

It's such a good question because, girlfriend, it's about to change, and we're woohoo! Just like we change our frequency, that needs to change. And and just as I am changing, and we are all evolving because we are on this continual journey of remembrance, right? Just as I am evolving and humanity is evolving, and the earth's frequency is evolving, and the needs of the collective

Spirit Calling Becomes A Community

SPEAKER_01 18:36

are changing, so does the needs of my community. So when I was having all those visions in 2020, it was downloads in the middle of the night, messages, all the things I heard, spirit calling, spirit calling, and I woke up and I bought the domain in the morning. And then over the course of a year, I kept hearing you're to build a community, a portal. There's going to be a glass ceiling that breaks. People are going to stop in their tracks, they're not going to know who and what it is they believed in in their world. It's happening now, by the way. And time now. It is. And and um, they're gonna need a safe place to land. And I was like, I don't have time to do that. I just merged an 18-year-old business to start a new business. Sorry, I can't build a portal right now, you know. And for the for a whole year, I kept getting this tap on the shoulder. No, no, build the community, build the community. So I built that community. I built it as a place for people to be able to congregate, connect, learn, grow, share, find other people, talk about what they're experiencing. Now it's going to be realized into something even higher, even more a higher frequency, where they can do more, where they can receive more. I'm going to be channeling twice monthly. I'm going to be doing energy activations, I'm going to be doing more experiential events and stuff. And it's what's needed. It's what's needed. So yeah, and the work. I never I was always told that I would do instantaneous healing. I was always told that I would, much like Jesus, be in doing instantaneous healing. I never could ever fathom that I could ever do that. But it's been a year next in a couple weeks where I started this healing stuff. And it's it was it's it was energetic for a very long time. And then it started moving into a cellular level and into a physical level last couple months. So I know that I'm gonna have a profound shift coming up in the next couple of weeks. They've told me the second week of July, it's gonna start escalating fast. So I know I have a blueprint to teach people how to do all of this. So that's what's evolving. Do I know how exactly? No, I don't, but I'll just allow it to funnel through because that's our job.

SPEAKER_02 20:45

So you worked ugly with the great council of light, because you talked about that a little bit a while ago. So who are they and like how did that connection begin?

SPEAKER_01 20:58

They are a super high frequency collective of ancient creator being. They supersede many of the other beings. And if you look back in ancient text and ancient history, there's lots of words that they're that are used to describe them. But there's a hierarchy that they talk about, and they have an expressed interest in humankind because they were responsible for creating them. And that was, you know, fed to me a little at a time to understand who they were, because as they told me from the very beginning, that I would shy away

The Great Council Of Light

SPEAKER_01 21:33

from the size and magnitude of what this work is and actually who I am. And until recently, I have seen and I have accepted because I've experienced all this stuff happening. I have watched myself download this technology. I have seen my incarnate aspect integrate into me. I have watched this being thought come back. He started in the very beginning talking to me and. He hasn't been around for a while, but he's come back. And it's uh it's been told to me that I I taught him this technology that he had and he did magic, you know? So yeah, and now I said to him, Why are you here? And he said, to help you implement this technology that you created. So it's like, you know, a little bit dribs and drabs they give me because I'm like, wow, you know. And but it's not, it it was about a year ago that they said, Pamela, it is not a you and us, it's a we. You are a part of this, you know, and there are others. But there's not there's not that many people that have this kind of mission. They have other missions, and everybody has their own unique mission. And I'm not supposed to teach about the different races and the different systems and the different that's not my job. My job is to help everybody understand the power that they have within, right? Because they have and can harness the cosmos inside, and they are connected to all that is. They are powerful creator beings, and they don't understand that they've been taught to be small. So, my job is to help everyone realize the full expression of who they are, to help them now heal and align to their highest version of themselves to fully realize that on this planet. And I love it, I really do.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

It's amazing. Yeah, so your work helps people return to clarity, connection, and remembrance of who they are at a soul level. What does soul remembrance really mean?

SPEAKER_01 23:27

Yeah, it means that you are able to clear any of the infractures, the great council of the light calls them, from any of the lower aspects, uh parts of yourself that have come here to learn. Like we are we are our our little earthling self, only a tiny little fracture of who we actually are, you know. And we came here to this experience to learn about love and to be able to be in full remembrances to really understand and connect to the full version of us, which is not just here on this planet, it's everywhere. It's it's the omniverse, right? And it's it's really basically breaking down that duality and thinking it's separation, it's really more about remembering who you are and remembering that you are not small and you are part of all that is,

Soul Remembrance And Past Life Imprints

SPEAKER_01 24:15

and your divinity is has no end and no beginning, and you know, you are not limited to this reality. And actually, you can have anything that you desire, you just have to believe it inside of you. And for all of those who that might feel like a lot to them, right? It might feel like a lot to them. Yeah, absolutely. Basically, your job that you came to do here on planet Earth is to learn as much about love as you possibly could, and you do that through experiences. I like that. Um, if you're able to, in this lifetime, understand yourself, love yourself, have compassion and forgiveness and empathy for others, and continue on that journey of discovery, you're you're winning it. Like you're you're there, you know?

unknown 25:02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

And she came to me wanting to do the one-on-one, my my three-month container, and she was so scared. She said, Pamela, I'm afraid to work with you because I've seen your energy. And whenever I work with someone, I have my body, I get sick because there's so much to heal. And I said, I understand that I don't want you to be afraid, but this is not just a go and work with someone, and then you did a session. This is an intensive, and there's going to be wiggles and ups and downs, and there's going to be stuff you have to deal with. And we just sent her a final email. We just finished our container, and she has, and the council said she's looked fear right in the face and rechant and changed the dynamics of the control. It doesn't control her anymore. Right. She's able to, that's what I'm saying, able to understand who she is, the dynamic force that she is, and learn how to live with it because it's part of who we are on this planet. That's why we came here. We can't deny that. But also, but also like move past it, move beyond it.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

Absolutely. So you help clients clear energetic imprints that have been carried across many lifetimes. How do past life imprints show up in someone's current life?

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Oh yeah. So I had a session earlier this morning. This was such a powerful one. I channeled for him yesterday and I had such an experience with him that I could see into so I'm self-trained. I I haven't gone to classes and sessions. No one else taught me this. This is me pulling it from my higher aspect. I do a bit of whatever I'm supposed to do. So I go into a trance state and I I ask to connect to the highest and best to help support this person in this container. And I see things, I hear things, I get messages, I write them down. Sometimes I see their past life, sometimes I I see what their life was like, sometimes I am them. And in this person's life, I received a message that a lot of the times the council will say something that you've never shared with anyone in your entire life. It's deep, deep right down in your heart. And it's my job to open a container of safety, especially for men, because they're not really used to and able to sometimes dive into these spaces. To open a container and say, Hey, I want you to know that there's some stuff that came up and this is a safe space. And I want to be able to share this with you. This is something that the council says you've never shared with anyone. And it was an experience that happened to him in his youth. They told me everything that happened, and that it challenged and created this ripple effect for many more experiences of like that in his life. He never shared it with anyone. And it said that he questioned himself and how he showed up. He did self-loathing and self-sabotage because of how that experience happened. Through this divine wisdom, I was able to see past life, to know that the way he experienced this was better than a past life. And he actually had a power stance instead of feeling defeated. It wasn't the full experience that happened in another lifetime. It was a better than. So he evolved and grew and we changed the perspective on that. But sometimes those karmic imprints, they affect our chakras, they affect our self-esteem, they affect our sense of love for ourselves, they affect how we connect and express love and receive love from others. And when we're able to get to the wisdom part, channel that intelligence, that information, and couple it with the healing of the heart that we did today and the deep sacral release that connected to the throat for power. And they said, meek no more. You're not being meek anymore, you're not self-sabotaging, you're not those things affect how you show up. When you are able to understand them and to heal them, it's a whole new dynamic. And so that's what we're doing. That's what we're doing. And it's incredible. I never knew that I would do this. And it's about to shift again.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

I love it. I know. So you see, you speak about restoring the soul's natural architecture. Can you explain what that means in a grounded way?

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Yeah, for sure. So I explained it today to this person I was just telling you about. If you can imagine, like we all had a, or maybe we didn't have a granny, but it's an older person in our life who had maybe like a silver pitcher or a silver vase or something. And the council talks about these things on your soul body, which is your etheric body, your energy body, that you get in fractures. If you can imagine like a little tarnish, a little, a little burnished spot on it. You know, sometimes when that silver doesn't have attention paid to it and it gets compounded and worse, it might start to eat away at the metal and it might start to break. Through healing,

Restoring The Soul’s Architecture

SPEAKER_01 30:07

the original blueprint, when you came here, over time, each lifetime, you get a little bit of those marks each time, depending on what you experienced. And they kind of they kind of they they stay, right? If unless you're able to heal them in different lives, they stay and they're on there. We're able to clear them off. We're able to clear the infractures, we're able to go in and release the infractures, release the binds, and actually with this technology that was downloaded inside of me, I'm able to actually rebuild those holes to rebuild those separations. I don't know what to call them. And I repair them and it sounds like a tool, and it's the coolest and oddest thing ever. But that's restoring it to its original divine blueprint, making it whole again, making it whole again. Because as I said earlier, we're moving into a new frequency on earth. Our humans are moving into a new frequency to be able to stay on this earth. So we're able to heal, understand what we've done, heal all that, and I'll move into this new version of ourselves. And we do that through soul healing. And they call it soul evolution. That's what they've been saying the last couple of days.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

I like soul. Soul I'm gonna make a program.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

I know, I know. I love that. So one of the things that thing is interesting is that in your healing work, you also mentioned distortions that are held within the DNA. So, how do you see the connection between the energetic body, physical body, and the soul?

SPEAKER_01 31:36

They're they're all one because in our DNA, that energetic imprint gets stuck. In our DNA, we have light codes that are embedded that are dormant. And when I do these energy transmissions, they activate them. So what they're bringing all those things back online, they're bringing all those things back, they're giving them life, they're opening the channels of the Claire's. Uh, they gave me a pineal gland activation meditation. I didn't even ask for it. It came out when I was channeling for someone, and it's a meditation, it's the bomb. It's so powerful. We have this amazing technology inside of our bodies. If you don't know it, we do. We were born with it's our gift. It's part of who we are. Right. Our Clare sensors, we have our energy centers, our chakras, we have our pineal gland. And in order to open all of those up, we raise our frequency and we tap into them and we express them, we open the channels and we utilize them, we decalcify the pineal gland, and we we start using all of these things. That is, you know, innately who we are. We've been things have been laying dormant. Our DNA was tampered with, and I don't know if you want to get into that, but that's that happens. And and you know, through our systems, through our world, through our food, through our music, through our energy, through everything, everything. We have been dumbed down, dumbed down, dumbed down. Just have, we've been dumbed down, and now everybody's starting to go waking up. They're waking up, they're like rubbing their eyes, going, Oh my gosh, why didn't I see this before? Oh my gosh, this doesn't feel right, right? We're starting to feel, we're using the Claire's. That's really truly who we are. When I when you talk about the divine blueprint, it's the way that we were made, how we were intended to be.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

Why do you think so many people are awakening at such an accelerated pace right now?

SPEAKER_01 33:27

I think that's a multifaceted answer. I think that consciousness is shifting on the planet. So people are waking up. So that wave is igniting and igniting. It's growing and it's growing. As that's happening, whether Gaia is raising its frequency, so that's supporting that technology has given people information instantaneously. So whether it's good, or you can look it up and I have a question about something, and I can ask chat or I can go on Google and I can find the answer to my question, or whether it's watching an assassination happen live on your social media, or a war or tsunami, or whatever, we have got information at our fingertips.

Why Awakening Feels Faster Now

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Whether it's an alien ship in the sky, like we are not going to be able to stop this transfer of information that's happening. We're we are so beyond that. So that is really a huge, I created a huge impact on awareness and discernment, which is tapping into the clears, which allowing people to feel. I think that 2020, 2020 was a really good opportunity for people to use discernment. Absolutely. So people either were like, oh, I have to do this, I have to just go in line, I had to do this, and I've got to do what I'm told and I'm doing it, or others said, this doesn't feel right. This doesn't feel right. Something's off about it. And when something's off for me, I can't do anything, whether it's go to a birthday party or take a medicine. Like I have to stop and think and feel into it. And I think a lot of people just put the brakes on. And so there was this conflict of interest. And then there was, well, why do you feel that way about me? I thought we were friends. And like people are waking up to, well, if you're my friend, then why are we acting this way? And like there was such a series of experiences for people to move through, right? And that has continued. I believe that that has continued. And again, that's the way our world was created to keep us occupied, to keep us busy, to keep us fighting, to keep us, you know, from thinking about all the big things. But it really can't keep us from thinking about the big things because we're too far down. We reached the tipping point. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:41

Absolutely. It's like waiting to see how the the chips fall. That's what it's kind of exciting to see, like, you know, for somebody, people that are spiritually open and look using discernment and why discernment is so important, you know, and really tapping within and tapping into your gifts. Like it's it's it's a fascinating ride to be on right now. Yeah. To see how I I remember I just I was driving to work yesterday and I was like, wow, everything's so beautiful. And I was watching the birds, and I'm like, I'd love to be alive right now. Like it just felt like I was, you know, it was just such a and then I was like, wow, this is a really wonderful moment, you know, and to be able to tap into that and just feel the energy and the flow of like everything's exactly right here used to be. I know you probably it's just it's fascinating to me. What are maybe some simple ways a listener can begin to reconnect with their own inner guidance?

SPEAKER_01 36:42

That's a great question. I think that what you just said is a really good example of you know breaking away from the routine, from the noise, and giving yourself a chance to breathe, to think, to not even think, to have space. And if there is an intention there, if there is a desire there to feel more into knowing yourself, if there is a desire there to connect more into your higher self, your soul's wisdom, then all you need really is a desire and to allow that information to siphon down to you

Simple Practices For Inner Guidance

SPEAKER_01 37:23

because it's there. And we have free will, you know, we're running around like chickens without our heads on, like trying to accomplish 17 million things every day, and myself included. We're not really good at giving ourselves the opportunity to just have the moments, you know. Yeah, even in the shower, we're consuming content or we're thinking of ideas and trying to knock our to-do list and get a concept of what our day is, you know. And there's little tiny things like you know, going a walk in nature, admiring the trees. I love to do that. You do and the wind. I don't know. I love the wind. Same. I do too, because it's this thing you can't see, but you can feel it. And you know, it's being around children and just trying to the gods, guides talk all the time about being in a state of wonder and amazement, like a child. You know, don't look at everything for face value, look at things and maybe not be so serious about everything. You know, allow yourself to have the ability to. I was working with a client today and like she's really trying to face that fear and work through it and see herself and grow. But then there's also days where she's just like, you know, can't handle it and it wakes up and doesn't want to go to her job, which is very demanding and very emotionally draining. And that's okay. It's okay to let yourself feel. It's okay to let yourself allow that feel to flow through you and to release because it's really important. Inside of my community, I create a custom sound healing every month, and it's a two-hour recording that you can listen to. You can listen to while you're gardening, while you're cooking, while you're walking, while you're in the shower, while you're sleeping. Yeah. And it supports, it's in a hertz and a frequency, and it supports your calibration of your energy centers. There's so many different things that you can do. Putting on even just music that lights you up, it allows you to be in a flow state. I mean, that allows you to break that and to be in this, and then you know, ideas come or an invitation to an event that you wanted to, like your block, you're freeing the block. I do that all the time. That really helps. That really helps.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

And you, I mean, you've mentioned throughout this entire interview how you've kind of just settled and you've allowed. And you know, that's so important for your journey is that you're not resisting, you have an attitude of curiosity and wonder, and you're just gonna receive and allow, yeah, and being in flow. And I I think that's so, so important. Like that's such amazing advice, and it shows where you're how you've evolved and your gifts and your healing and in your life. And we just get so like we just do.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Of course, we all do. We all do. I'm not perfect. I do too. My beloved's probably at the door, like, what? And then you said I know my my partner, he's like, excuse you, miss positivity.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

I'm like, stop, take it down a notch, bro.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

You're like, I'm human, okay? I asked you. What's your horseshoe? I'm like, what hold this crystal? You'll feel better.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

It's so funny, but but really truly, there's a deep trust that you build. Like, I I didn't even share so many stories of me trusting and doing what I need to do to be here and now this didn't happen. Like, this didn't happen by me riding on a rainbow and eating lucky charms, like woo-hoo. You know, it was it was severe, fierce courage and trust. Yeah, and let not letting my brain take over, listening to the guidance, like to sell my house when they told me to take the money out of my house to build this community. And then then I woke up in the middle of the night with a dream a year later, with a for sale by owner. They told me how much. They told me all the details. I woke up that morning, went across the street to my neighbor. She asked me, What am I gonna do with the house when my youngest goes to college in the fall? And I said, I just decided I'm gonna sell it. I sold it in hours for exactly what I wanted. I picked my settlement date five months later. I didn't, I didn't have one penny out of my pocket. Like it was everything that I was told to do. I had to trust, I had to listen, I had to not use my client who was the biggest real estate agent in my town, you know, who I probably could have like if I let my brain do the work, oh, she could have gotten me $200,000 more and I could have done this and like, but no, I thought I knew all the things. There's probably electrical work, there was probably foundation work, there was probably this and that, and all the things. And, you know, I would have come out not the way I needed to come out, but instead I listened, they trusted. That's excruciating. It's hard sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

You rescue and went through traumas that really, you know, like with your father passing, and you know, they say those are rocket fuel moments for ascension. Yeah, you know, you can either put your head in or you can go up or ride the wave, and you chose to ride the wave. Yes, you know, which is very interesting. Before I ask you the last question, if anyone is interested in learning more about you, where's the best place for them to go to? You're so nice. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 42:31

Thank you. I appreciate that. I created a landing page for your listeners. So if they go to my website, which there's so many great things to see, there's meditations and events and community and mastermind, it's spirit calling.com. But if they go to spirit calling.com spiritual spotlight series, there's a page just for them with some goodies they can download. I've chosen, I know it's awesome. And I just launched a new spiritual assessment. It's a cool tech tool, so you can find out where you are on your journey. But we have a seven-day free trial to come into the community. I have there's live events weekly. I'm very active in the community. But what

Where To Find Pamela’s Work

SPEAKER_01 43:12

the bomb is right now, I do this mastermind. It's a 90-minute container once a month where people are in the council with me. I'm channeling, I'm doing these energy transmissions. They receive channel messages just for them. They have been expanding and growing like crazy. And then people dip in and out into soul path coaching from that. Yeah, I can't even tell you, it's it's the most wonderful work. I never thought I'd ever do this. And I just love it. It just makes me so happy.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

I love that. Yeah, I love that. If either the great council of light had one message or you have one message for the listeners today, what do you feel that they would want humanity to know?

SPEAKER_01 43:54

Yeah, they want you right now to really go internally to listen to your inner voice. They want you to work on your frequency. It's imperative. So when everyone's posting on social and there's everyone's got to put their opinion, everybody's got to be a part of the conversation. You're sitting there fighting and saying, Do you believe this person and do you believe that? And it's going around in the family chat. And like, you don't need to do that. You withdraw yourself from that conversation, you get yourself right, you get your nutrition right, you get your pastime activities right, you get your relationships right. You really put yourself in high regard and you start understanding that the stronger and more powerful you are, the more you bring, more vibrancy you bring into your life, more alignment, the more

One Message For Humanity

SPEAKER_01 44:42

love, the more, the more opportunities. And then when things kind of go rogue, you know, as they are, it's gonna escalate. Yeah, it's gonna escalate right now. It's in the mid-June. So the next couple weeks, it's gonna get kind of crazy. You're gonna be powerful. You're not just gonna knock over like a bowling pin. You're really not gonna get swept up in that storm. You're gonna be powerful, you're gonna look at it with a bird's eye view, and you're gonna decide how you wanna deal with this situation. You're not just gonna be like so, really, truly, that's what they want you to do. And they want you to know that you're loved. You are, even if you feel like your life is just so stinking hard. You might have this is just coming to me right now. You might have a partner that is really trying and testing, pushes you to no end. Just know, try and find the beautiful pieces of that person and know and find the reason you're with them. And really, does it serve you? Does it not? There's lots of our family members who, you know, don't want to do that. They don't want to deal or look at themselves. Just love them for who they are, you know, and don't position yourself to be right. Just be.

SPEAKER_02 45:52

I love that. Thank you, Pamela, so much for calling the Spiritual Spotlight series. It truly has been phenomenal to connect with you today. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thanks so much for having me.