You Are Not Broken — You Are Remembering Home: Angelic Ancestry with Dr. Alisha Das

You can believe in angels and still insist on discernment, evidence, and real world results. That’s why this Spiritual Spotlight conversation with Dr. Alicia Das lands so strongly. Alicia is a spiritual teacher, angel expert, and Hay House author, and she takes us from her earliest childhood memories of speaking a silver white “angelic language” to the grounded practices she uses today to help people feel supported without bypassing their humanity.

We get specific about what divine guidance actually feels like: subtle spiritual sensing, inner knowing, and the kind of quiet whisper that can be mistaken for imagination. Alicia shares practical ways to work with your guardian angel, how to ask a question, and why speaking the message out loud can unlock clarity you didn’t realize you had. We also talk about fear, projection, and wishful thinking, including how she has learned to test guidance and trust her own discernment when something feels off.

Then we open the doorway into Your Angelic Ancestry: Discover Your Angelic Name, Heritage, and Higher Purpose. Alicia explains what she means by “activation,” why angelic language can shift your state even if you do not understand the words, and how remembering an archangelic name and purpose can move you from self judgment into self compassion. We close with grounding, grief, nature, and what it means to live with one foot in heaven and one foot on earth.

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Transcript

Welcome To Angelic Ancestry

SPEAKER_02 0:49

Today on the Spiritual Spotlight series, I am so honored to welcome Dr. Alicia Doss. Alicia is an internationally recognized spiritual teacher, transformational leader, angel expert, hay house author, and host of Live Your Love podcast. I love that title. That's actually really fun. For more than 30 years, she has guided people around the world through personal awakening, healing, and deeper connection with divine guidance. Her forthcoming book, Your Angelic Ancestry, Discover Your Angelic Name, Heritage, and Higher Purpose, invites readers to remember their celestial heritage, deepen their connection with archangels, and awaken to divine purpose within them. Today we'll be talking about angelic ancestry, the angelic language and spiritual identity, divine guidance, and what it means to live with one foot in heaven and one foot on earth. Thank you so much for coming to the Spiritual Spotlight series. I'm so happy you're here.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

Thank you. I am very happy to be here, Rachel. I think we're gonna have a beautiful time.

SPEAKER_02 1:47

I love it. So, Alicia, before we enter into the angelic realm, I'd love to begin with with you as a little girl. What was your first memory of feeling connected to something beyond this world?

SPEAKER_01 2:00

I love that question. You know, I think children always feel connected to something beyond this world until about age seven when the veil drops, and then we get to engage in exactly this world more. So my first conscious memory, my first conscious memory of being connected to something greater was when I was four years old, three to four, and I remember speaking, speaking to these monolithic beings, silver and white beings, in their own language. I didn't know at the time they were angels. I didn't know what they were, I just knew they were home. And I was, I mean, it was a very traumatic time in my childhood. And these beings, in essence, they kept me whole until much later when I could really work to heal the trauma. And and that began a lifelong conversation with them.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

I love it. So you grew up surrounded by science physicians, an evidence-based way of understanding life. How does that shape the way you question your own spiritual experiences?

SPEAKER_01 2:59

I think we should never leave our mind at the door, you know, completely. I think we always need to discern, but then at some point, the mind does need to surrender to something much to a higher mind, to intuition, to inner knowing, to experience. And so for me, I have a rare disease in my family, which is that everybody is an MD. I mean, every, it's it's my parents met over at cadaver. I'm sure it was very romantic. And so I was pre-med. And even with a PhD, I'm still not really allowed to call myself a doctor because I'm not, you know, I can't operate on people. So the good news about it is it made me really want empirical evidence that my work was changing lives, that people were improving, that they were getting better. Even my doctorate was in in spiritual science because it's I really want measurable results, right? Philosophy is wonderful, but even

Early Memories Of Angelic Language

SPEAKER_01 3:53

philosophy has to give way to am I experiencing more godliness, spirit, universal life force in my life? Am I feeling more at peace, one with all things? Am I being more effective in my daily life? Am I being a more loving person? So I wanted to measure and track things. You can tell I'm a consciousness nerd. And okay. So that's really, you know, I sometimes can it get in the way? Sure. But most of the time it really doesn't because I'm so far over on the woo-woo side that the scientific mind in me actually can be a nice balance and grounding for people. And it does help me speak to business, business people, to scientists, to, you know, to do all the life coaching. Because I like to see, you know, are we really experiencing more heaven on earth? Or is it just philosophy?

SPEAKER_02 4:46

That's so true. So when you first began to hear the angelic language as a child, did it feel natural to you, maybe frightening, comforting, or confusing?

SPEAKER_01 4:55

Well, as a child, you know, as children, we're so connected to magic, right? Mysticism and we draw rainbows and we we think, you know, I remember my child asking me what it was like to talk to Jesus because he assumed I was alive and Jesus was alive, you know. And first of all, I'm very old now because I'm past I am past 30. I don't know if I, you know, should have shared that, but I'm very old. And so so I think it's you know, they're in that timelessness. So I was never no, I was never frightened by it. It was when I when I started hearing the language again in earnest when I was about 24, it again it was frightening. Sometimes angels can be very frightening. In the Bible, the word, the phrase they say more often than anything not is fear not, because they are even to saints and prophets, because they're very, they're awesome. I mean, you know, in the in the in not the valley girl sense of that word and the true sense of that word. They're awe-inspiring. So I don't remember being frightened. The only thing that I was concerned about when I was a young adult and really hearing the language in earnest and all the time was, you know, am I going crazy? It's just I'm hearing this beautiful language, but it just would take me out of my mind, which, as you know, is no mean feat. I've shared my background into this experience of the angelic and of God. And so once I verified it with my spiritual teacher, once I started seeing the results of it with other people, then I relaxed and I went, well, I don't know that we can entirely really rule out me being crazy, but that at least the language is definitely real.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

So you've said that you didn't set out to become an angel communicator. You set out to understand what was real. What did that search for truth eventually reveal to you?

SPEAKER_01 6:51

You know, I'm still searching for truth, even after 40 years on a very devout spiritual path, which is a blend of Eastern and Western, by the way. Um, and and now my path seems to be all paths that lead to love, right? I'm just really passionate about we're all one. Can we stop arguing about whose God is bigger? For me, it's really about what leads me to love. What is what I'm experiencing bringing me to greater truth that is beyond thought, that is beyond emotion, and that is really beyond a shadow of a doubt. And for me, that's often I'm stair-stepping to God through the great archangelic because it does make it much more tangible. And sometimes it's through the Christ, and sometimes it's through the Buddha consciousness, and sometimes it's through a leaf blowing in the wind. And so for me, I'm really passionate about please honor your spiritual path, whatever it is, and realize that ultimately, of course, we're all on the same path.

SPEAKER_02 7:57

Absolutely. And

Science Skepticism And Spiritual Proof

SPEAKER_02 7:58

I really resonate with, and I and I feel the same way, and definitely in my spiritual path, it's all roads lead to love 100%. Even wherever it meanders you, it's always leads back to just go back to love. Just go back to love. It's okay, just go back to love. Like, I love that. So, did you ever have a moment that you realize that this isn't my imagination and this is actually real guidance? I think sometimes spiritual people, we kind of even myself, I'm like, I'm making this up. But then I'm like, no, no, really, Archangel Ariel is with us. Like it's just how did you kind of reconcile that?

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Well, again, it's a it's a journey in, you know, it's a it's a et cetera, eternally traveling consciousness, kind of like, you know, an acronym. So so so acronyms, sorry, acronyms. So it's and even Joan of Arc said, of course, angels speak to me in my imagination, where else would they speak to me? But I don't think that means she was making anything up. Obviously, it was Joan of Arc, right? I think it's that we perceive with spiritual senses, which are far more subtle than physical senses. We, if we're expecting to hear angels or God, or the Christ or Buddha as clearly as we're hearing our voices right now, we're not going to because it's a whole other metaphysical, meaning more than physical realm. So I think we learn to go beyond the mind, the imagination, even the unconscious into soul, and from there we proceed directly. And sometimes God can seem like a very long-distance call. And then we may need to fake it till we make it and go, okay, I don't know what I'm experiencing. I'm going to keep opening and surrendering. And then that which will come into that spaciousness when I've stopped worried of, you know, when I've stopped worrying and I'm stopped trying, and I've stopped, you know, the techniques and all that that comes into that spacious spaciousness. We go, this this is who I am. I have no evidence of it. But I would gladly give my life to remain in this for my life. And and that's where we go. At that point, we go, I don't care if I'm making it up. This is real. Which sounds like double talk. But you know, it is mystic, it's called mysticism for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 10:31

I love that. I have chills, I love that. It's just it's it's very profound. It's like, no, it is what it is, and and it's a gentle reminder that divine doesn't yell, it whispers, you know, and we have to be willing to tune in and look and listen. For someone listening who is curious but skeptical, how would you explain angels in a way that feels grounded and accessible?

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Yeah, I I I really love that question as well. And and as explained with my scientific background, you know, I I I was a big skeptic, not as a child, but certainly later. And so I would say, you know, the invisible, you know, the mystical, like you know, love. Show me love. I don't need to do, can I hear love? You know, prove love to me. Prove your love for your child, your spouse, your pet, the universe, right? And that person would have to say, I can't prove it, it just is. Just as I love my child. There's nothing that that you could say that would convince me of otherwise, even though I can't taste love. I can't, I can't show it to you. And spirit is the same thing, whether it's angels or Christ or however you relate to it, you know, it's the same thing. So I would say, again, if you're skeptical and you want to experience angels, there's a couple of things that will quiet the mind. First of all, a recent study, very clinical, dry study by the University of Chicago and the Associated Press, hard to get more nerdy than that, right? Showed that 69% of US citizens believe in angels. Now, this is obviously just the US, but I don't think it's so different in the rest, probably the rest of the world. Absolutely. 100% agree with you. And that's more people than believe in believe in God. More people believe in angels than believe in God. Of course, that crosses socioeconomic standards and gender and religion and no religion, apparently. So if, and it crosses through all the religions. Angels are obviously in Judaism and Christianity and Islam and even in Buddhism, they don't call them angels, but it's it, you know, Zoroastrian isn't what they describe, an intermediary to God, which we can experience, which speaks to us and is a messenger. Sounds a heck of a lot like angels, right? So when you have that many people at such a cross-section believing in something, there's probably something to it.

How Angels Communicate And How To Listen

SPEAKER_01 12:58

So I would say, first of all, realize you experience it with spiritual sensing. Second of all, they probably are real with everybody agreeing, you know, just about. And third of all, what do you have to lose? Except for fear and feeling like you're alone and doubt and anger, etc. Because angels are conduits of God. There's a god, they're gods, mouths and ears, etc. So it'd say, you know, you don't leave your mind at the door, but you go, let me just be open and let me go, okay, what am I hearing, sensing, seeing inwardly? What am I feeling? And then you in that space, you be open. And I would test them. I would say, ask your, it's easier to start with your guardian angel because they're right here, you know. But you can start with a great archangel if you want and test them and say, Okay, give me a message. And then a really great technique, if you're unsure, is to you gotta, you got you can't cheat, you gotta be open, right? If you're really open, you go, okay, I got this issue, or what message do you have for me? And once you do sense that, okay, I'm not sure, but I'm sensing a glimmer of something, you know, at the edge of my awareness, and you speak the answer out loud. Because see, angel means messenger of God, but we are angels as well in the flesh. So it's like you just start speaking the message out loud, and you will be amazed at what will come through your own mouth that you didn't know that you knew. Why? Because now you're aligning with God's messengers.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

I love that. I love that. I and I love working with the angels. I will say my you know, my spirit, I've been on the spiritual path for a long time as well. And I originally went through energy healing and I went through and I didn't go Reiki, I went integrative energy therapy. Why? Because they work with the nine healing angels of IT. Because I I loved working, I just I just felt safe and comforted and supported working with angels. It just that was like my gateway to God. And I just I just love that. So your book is called Your Angelic Ancestry, Discover Your Angelic Name, which I've never even heard of, which I think is fascinating. Heritage and Higher Purpose, which is coming to a publisher, Amazon everywhere on July 21st.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

Yes, it's published by Hay House, Penguin Random House. Nice, they're the same now. And so, yes, July 21st, it is available now, actually. You can buy it every quarter. Let's go right now. Exactly. You can uh get it on my website or obviously anywhere books are sold. But if you go to my website, alicia doffs.com, you get so many bonuses. You get a bonus, yes, you get a five module course and you get a VIP ticket to my online launch, which is July 18th, with Andrew Harvey, Sonia Choquette, Robert Holden, and Marie Diamond.

SPEAKER_02 16:03

That's gonna be amazing.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Yeah, they're all joining me and they're all talking about angels. And a lot of us have not heard and Andrew Harvey talk about angels or Sonia Choquette, etc. But they they're gonna be talking about angels, and then you get if you just buy the book, you get invited to a the VIP hour at the end where I'll be giving readings and some of them may join me as well.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

I love that. What was the moment you knew that this work needed to become a book?

SPEAKER_01 16:30

Oh gosh, 30 years ago, and clearly I went right out and wrote that book. Guess I had a little resistance to it.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

Better like yes, you know what? Divine timing is a thing.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Thank you for that charity.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

I appreciate the graciousness. So, you know, and at some point it went like, well, how do I now put 30 years of working with the angelic into a book? And fortunately, then I got the Hay House deal, and then you have deadlines, and then you don't get to try to put 30 years in a book. So so I I I knew that I I was always called to write a book, but then it became very clear once the portal was really open between the human and the angelic, which I talk about in the book, that the book needed to come in now because we're at a pivotal time on our planet. And then it was like when I finally went, okay, it's time. And then I and then I the I got a two-book deal with Hay House, and then this mentioned deadlines and all that. And it was like that, it just all came present. And not like it's easy, it's not so easy to write a book, especially when it's it's easier to write a book when you're just writing, you know, on a few years of something. When it's 30 years, it's a little harder. So, but we're at a top point where it's a very intense period on our planet. Yes. So you can can I know you can feel it, Rachel. That's your your your business. But it's it's there is a lot of darkness on the planet, but there is more light, and the light will win, but we need more light workers. And if you have, if you don't have the awareness of the light, but you have the consciousness and the openness, you can be a battery of light. But if you have the awareness and a little bit of information, then you're a light worker. And so I wanted to empower people with it's actually it's your archangelic name.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

The the subtitle, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Yeah, of course. You know, it was called your archangelic ancestry, but nobody could pronounce it. So I changed it to your angelic ancestry. Discover your archangelic name. It is your archangelic name, and that makes a lot of sense when you read the book or do the course, which you can get immediately once you and the book is out very shortly, but you you know, you can get the course in your inbox today. So your archangelic name, heritage, and higher purpose. I wanted to empower people with who they were born as, who they were born to be, what God was seeking to learn through you, yeah, way before this lifetime. So you can bring all that present, all your archangelic acumen and awareness, and really be an empowered light worker. It doesn't mean you have to be in the business, you can be in any business or no business, but it's like when you sit in that consciousness and just send love into the collective, the collective changes.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

I love that. So your book is being described as both a guide and an activation. What does that mean for a book to activate someone's angelic nature?

Your Angelic Ancestry Book And Bonuses

SPEAKER_01 19:33

Well, I really received the book. So I received it from the angelic language, which I had now been hearing and speaking for almost four decades. And so what I would do is I would, I wrote the most of the book on my balcony because I needed to be outside to allow nature to inform it. And I would get down on my knees and I would just give it up to the angels, and I would start speaking in the angelic, and then they would disseminate the information to me. And some of it is directly as they gave it, and that's the angelic messages in it, but they speak in a very it's very deep and profound and little formal. And so that's only scattered throughout the book because we also wanted it to be enjoyable and accessible, right? So people read those messages, and it's like, oh my goodness, and it really transports them. But uh, and then and then some of the information I would then take and edit and make it very accessible. There's a lot of stories, all true, miraculous stories of this work, and then a lot of esoteric information that is very accessible. And then there's the direct angelic messages. So I went over and over and over that book with myself and many other light workers to ensure that every word can was true. You know, I tested it gotta be a hundred times now, that every word was true. And it'd be like, oh, something in chapter four, one word, you know, and I'd go through it until I found that one word and went, it's not ability, it's acumen. I mean they got that specific. They got that specific. And so people are saying that. Like I had one guy who actually is one of the founders of Heart Math.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

I love Heart Math.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

That's beautiful. Yes, I love that. Yeah, it's be it's so beautiful. And Bruce Cryer is a is a friend of mine, and he he said, I didn't, he said, you know, he gave me this beautiful testimonial and said, I didn't even believe in angels. And then I started reading Alicia's book, and all of a sudden I started dreaming of angels and seeing angels, and and so I'm working with angels, and so that's what I mean by an activation. It's beyond the words.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

I love that. So you teach that each person can discover their archangelic name. What is an archangelic name and why does that matter?

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Yeah, great question. So that I do go into more depth in the course, and of course, in the book, and I don't I don't even let people think about obviously I don't have once the book's in their hands, it's their baby, not mine. But I mean, I don't go into an archangelic name until the sixth chapter, which is more a little bit more than halfway through the book. And the reason is because they really need to understand why they're they weren't archangel before they incarnate and not an angel. Why the heck I'm even saying they came from the angelic in the first place, and that all is very clear in the book and even in the course that that they could start now. So angels and humans evolve oppositely, right? So, and the angelic predated the human by zillions of years. It's an ancient creation. We many spiritual teachers call it we are a latter date. Creation. We're almost like an experiment, right? You can kind of feel that it's like a little rough around the edges here on this in the on the earth. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And so humans incarnate once, meaning we go, oh, God wants to, obviously, I'm oversimplifying. God wants to experience God's creation through individuation, through souls. Let me go incarnate, you know, and live again and again. That'll be easy. And we get here and we're like, yeah, this is not so easy. But we enter incarnation once as humans. We embody many, many, many times, right? We're Ming Pao Chu in China, and everything's great until oops, we slip on a rice potty, and then we wake up and we're Juan Rodriguez in Spain until oops, we clutch our chest and we wake up as Sally Smith, you know, an Olympic equestrian in Kansas. And so we have many bodies, many names. The angelic is the opposite. They incarnate many, many times, and that would be kind of a longer discussion, but they embody only once. They have one body. And when they die, and I saw this one right after my mother died, actually, it's in my introduction, saw angelic death, they their body scatters into millions, millions of points of silver and white light, and is in the uh abeyance in the heavens, held in the heavens with God, until they're going to enter into incarnation again, and they form that same body from the body blueprint and live again with the same name. Oh, I love that. And you can remember that name, which is what incepted you, you know, since God spoke, right? Incepted you into the angelic way before the human. But the reason I say it's archangelic, you're archangelic rather than angelic, angels are in a collective. Angels don't have individual souls. They're beautiful, but they don't have individual souls. Archangels who have evolved from angels have individual souls. So to come into this level with free choice, we have to be sovereign. We have to be able to discern, at least to the best of our ability, the higher choice rather than just being in a collective. An angel here would be a bit lost in a body. Not that they can't come into a body like to move the train aside or whatever, you know, but they don't generally in to my awareness, they don't incarnate in human form until they've been an archangel and can deal with free choice, free will, which is not always so easy, right?

Archangelic Names And Higher Purpose

SPEAKER_02 25:28

No, it's not, it's not at all. Just thinking about you're like, what I do this morning, like you know completely.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

We're like, God, if you would just descend upon a billboard and say, go thou this way, I would do it.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

Right. Well, we all want an instruction manual. Yes, absolutely. So your book explores angelic purpose or what you call someone's dream. What is dream and how does it help us to understand why we're here? I didn't quite catch that word. What is dream? Is that what we say? Dream. Dream. Ah, thank you. Yeah. And maybe it's also a dream. It's all a dream until we're exactly our this is all just a hallucinogen. No, just kidding. It's all hologram.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

So an angelic stream is kind of a poetic way of saying our purpose. So once we hear our our archangelic name, which we do, I had I give a a barcode to recorded meditation, because with you know, you could read it, but no, just like let yourself experience that meditation. Or hear a few, at least a few syllables of the angelic language to receive your name. Then you utilize that awareness to tap into your archangelic stream, which again is another way of saying your higher purpose. So not just for this lifetime, but for all of your lifetimes. And tapping into that very pure language, tapping into who you've been through all your human lifetimes and all your archangelic and angelic lifetimes, is a way to tap into a very lofty purpose as a way to tap into what was God seeking to learn through me that God couldn't have learned through anyone else. So people do actually receive, you know, it's it's it starts off pretty general, you know, and then to get more and more specific as you work with it.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

That's so cool. For someone who has maybe spent much of their life feeling ordinary, disconnected, or even broken, what can happen when they begin to remember themselves as angelic in nature? Yeah, the best questions.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

I love your questions, Rachel. Thank you. Absolutely. Well, I think we all feel broken at times. Absolutely, yes. And I think we all are broken at times because this level, the physical level is hard. Earth, what I've learned from my my four decades of spiritual study, with been privileged to be around a lot of masters, is that earth is even harder than other physical places, right? But yet souls line up to get here because we grow so much faster spiritually. So if someone is feeling broken or lost, that holy ache doesn't mean you're there's anything wrong with you. It's a homing pigeon, if you will. It's a call homeward, it's a call into our spirit. And I've talked to so many people where once they can access their archangelic heritage, they go, Oh, there's nothing wrong with me. I'm just not from here. Right? Because there are beings who've been here a lot longer than you. Not, they're not older souls. It's just you may have spent a lot of your lifetimes in the angelic, you may have spent lifetimes as a nature spirit and on Venus and other places, and then come here and gone, I'm feeling like a stranger in a strange land, and I'm just not as excited about this place as everybody else seems to be. If you really talk, if you really talk to them, you really talk to them, you go, Oh, we all have that holy ache. So I would say open to your archangelic ancestry because you will find such a pool, a deep pool, an ocean of compassion for yourself, not only from spirit, but from yourself. Right? And then self-love is so much easier, and then you start to go, oh, all those mistakes, all those things I could have, shoulda, woulda, I was gathering information and experiences for God. And there really are no wrong terms and no wrong, no mistakes, it's all just experience.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

So so often spiritual people want to escape the human experience. How do you help people to embody their divinity while still fully living their human life? That's a great question.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

Well, you know, and it's very true. Those of us who, especially those of us who've really been fully immersed in the spiritual cause, and like, can I, can can you beat me up now? You know, because it can get harder here once we're aware that, oh, that beyond that half a breath that is death, it's a heck of a lot easier, right? And it's and it's really true. And yet, you know, and Rachel, I just did just a week ago, a week and two days ago, I officiated a beautiful celebration of life for one of my best friends in the whole world for for my entire spiritual path, actually. He was one of the first I met on my path. And I, you know, of course I grieved, and of course I had the ecstasy of tapping into him just beyond the veil, right? But a few days after memorial, I went, I did something I never do, being from a very tight triple A family, all MDs, right? I was driving home from some appointment. I went, I need to just stop by the ocean and be with Ted is his name, and be with Ted. And I did. And Ted, who was very spiritual being, like he'd given his whole life for spirit. Ted, I thought I'd, you know, experience the rest of the grief or follow him in the heavens or whatever. And instead, he looked through my eyes at life, and I started weeping at the beauty of one gray seagull. And I was completely dissolved in ecstasy by the feel of the sand on my feet, and he was saying, Yes, of course, it's ecstatic here.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

Of course.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

But so is life,

Grounding Grief And Heaven On Earth

SPEAKER_01 31:58

not just life beyond life, but life is ecstatic if you have eyes to see. You know, we are in a in a privileged place. I know it doesn't always feel like that, and I've got two hands and a foot in the air on this place, it's hard, you know. And we are so privileged to have life, and God is equally imbued here, easier to experience on the fourth level above solar, you know, yeah, of course. But God is equally imbued here. So I would say to people, if you're struggling here, I one, I I get to, I get it, you're not alone. And two, I would say do the spiritual practice, find a spiritual community or several. And and three, I would say do some grounding. It helps a lot. Do you know? But when you do the grounding, which yeah, you know, feed on the sand or feed on the dirt or but also dropping grounding cords into the core of the earth, just connecting into that grounding of Mother Gaia. And here's the big key: don't take that energy up through your chakras. Let the let the earth hold you secure and stable, and then allow your consciousness to go up very high into the higher realms of light so you're ultimately expanded. You don't want to take the earth energy up through your body, you want to take it, you want to take light into your body and then keep going in the heavens, but allow that grounding so you feel safe and actually go up higher in your awareness.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

Oh, I love that. I love that. That's that's very I like that. And I and I feel like part of our soul mission here is just to feel through our senses, like, you know, just to experience life, like you said, like in the beautiful sand in your feet and the seagull. And you know, take a moment to just stop and pause and look around. Yeah, see the beauty just around us. Like, you know, every every day that I drive to work, and I kind of live in the country and I love it, you know, I see cardinals and deer, and it's just like, and then I'm like, I am I'm lucky to live this life and to see this beauty and to, you know, and it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

It's okay to just chill a hundred percent. And that's the cool thing about nature. I am with you. Like I said, I read I wrote the whole book on my balcony, and my balcony, by the way, is in Pacific Palisades. So you might have heard of the Palisades fire, and I it's a whole miracle, the angels save my home, and that'll be another podcast. But but if I'm out of balance, that's what I'll do, is I'll go, okay, but let me just connect to something in nature because it's so pure and it heals us. Like it's not grounding, it's not just to feel safe, it's also we discharge our negativity into the earth. We all sort of hug the tree, right? And nature takes it and turns like fertilizer, it takes it and turns it into beauty, yeah. And it's also an electromagnetic field and it can ground you. I oh a hundred percent. I I also wrote my book on a grounding pad. Of course you did.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

She's like, guys, I had my shung guide, I had my I love that. So do you believe that angelic language activates something within the listener, even if the mind doesn't understand the words?

SPEAKER_01 35:18

A trillion percent, because we've all been saved by our guardian angel. We've all gone, oh my god, that car should have hit me, uh, that rock should have fallen, whatever, right? We're not aware of our guardian angel, right? But they still step in. So absolutely, when we hear the angelic language, even if we're like, well, that's that's messed up or whatever, right? Because it doesn't sound like English, it automatically transports us directly into the angelic. My my spiritual teacher said, When I when I, you know, remember when I'm like, Am I going crazy? or you know, and so I did speak a bit of the language dad, because I told him, I don't know if I'm going, he, and he was the one who he was very funny, right? And he said, and he said, Well, I don't know that we can rule out you being crazy, but speak. But yes, you are hearing the angelic, speak some of it. And so I did, and he said, and he confirmed it, and he said, be very careful in discerning with whom you speak that and when, because it transports people into another realm. So, like, I never speak it on people always asking me, Well, can you speak some now? And I don't, because if somebody's driving or even walking or even sitting, suddenly they can follow. I've seen it way too many times. I mean, it's always no one's ever gotten hurt, but but even just like if I'm in a room and it's not being tell, you know, even not even recorded, because if so that people will just go into this place of well, of ecstasy, or at least of their consciousness being moved.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Right, absolutely. So, as you kind of touched on this before, many people are longing for guidance right now. How can someone begin to tell the difference between true angelic guidance and their own fear, projection, or wishful thinking?

SPEAKER_01 37:06

Yes, again, a great question. That's where free will or free choice gets tough. See, angels have this very convenient archangel above them, disseminating God's will to them. We unfortunately don't. And so, first of all, again, remember you sense angels with spiritual sensing, even your guardian angel. It's a sense, it's a spiritual sense. It's not a you're not gonna hear them like you're hearing our voices right now. You're going to hear them inside in a much deeper place. So angels will never tell you to harm another. Ever, ever, ever. They will normally talk about things of the spirit. Normally they won't be like, well, the way you get that fancy coat is or lose weight or whatever. Can they help you with that? Sure, because they bring you into higher guidance and a higher state. And you're like, I don't really want to eat the french fries and the chocolate, or the do you know what I mean? I don't want to hurt this body temple. So, but to go, oh, well, just be the great bell hop in the sky, yeah, not so much. So, one, use your spiritual sensing, two, trust yourself. If you're like, this doesn't,

Discernment Trust And Everyday Guidance

SPEAKER_01 38:13

you know. I remember I was in this brief phase of my life where I was being offered almost everything I wanted and I wanted it. And yeah, and so something I do almost every day is bring forward messages from the angels. Big, big shock there, I'm sure. And uh and and I recorded this message from Archangel Michael. I tend to record them, I really don't do much with accordance, but I it's just it's what I'm guided to, so I do. And I and I recorded this message from Archangel Michael, and I went that wasn't Michael, and I deleted it. But felt like Michael, sounded like Michael, seemed like Michael, and Michael's kind of my dude, you know? And just went, it wasn't Michael, and I deleted it and I walked away from what I was being offered, which was a relationship, we never have to worry about money again, everything I wanted. And I walked away because I went, something is off. And when I walked away from it, it's you think God will go, good job, and everything worked out, but yet no, got a lot work, got a lot harder in many ways, and yet I don't think I've deleted a message from Michael or any angel sense.

SPEAKER_02 39:29

Wow. So, one, you bring up a really good point about trusting your inner wisdom and your discernment, especially right now with everything that's going on in the world. Discernment is so important. So, for you and trusting your inner guidance, and you like, no, that's not right. That's that's not good. How did you learn how to trust the discernment within you?

SPEAKER_01 39:53

Yeah, great question. So, of course, on my own, but you know what really helped, Rachel, was when I started working with clients, which I did many decades ago, and I would sit there and I my my biggest thing. So my partner at the time was this very profound counselor to gurus and thought leaders and all that. And the one thing he taught me, because I would follow him around with a clipboard, but he just like wasn't a teacher in that sense of doing his was, he was more born with it, but he kept working with me. And what he taught me was to be in the divine unknowing. So I would sit there with client after client and stare stupidly at them until the knowing came in. And I would start sharing it. And I had kind of had a cheat code in that they I could hear the angelic language. So once they started speaking to me, and then I would share, so they would read the records, they would read the Akashic records, and then at some point they totally hung me out to dry. I was there with a client, and I'm like, okay, go read the records. And they're like, no, you do it. I'm like, I can't do it. Yes, you can. And all I heard was crickets, and I had to go read the records myself. I definitely had a little thing to say to them that day. And and then, but I learned to read the records, and then they would still read the higher records, which are the Nicole records, a record of the soul. And then there's records higher. So they'll still read the higher records. But when I would just go, okay, there's three things like a client might say, I have a life-threatening illness, or you know, my child's in date, whatever, right? Things that I'm like, thank God I'm not doing this, because I don't know what I would say, right? But spirit's doing it. And I would say, uh, you know, I there's three things with that. And I would have no idea what those three things were. And then I would just say, the first is this. And so working with client after client and seeing the efficacy of it, and then classes, you know, and then seeing a sea of I'm going, I'm presenting this really far out information. And I would expect like this big hook to pull me off the stage, you know. And yet, and then yet class participants would nod their heads and go, Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Even with this, where I'm like, okay, you're an archangel in the flesh and you have an archangelic name, and that comes from the angelic language. And they go, Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Really?

SPEAKER_02 42:07

Yeah, it does make sense when you say it. It hits your heart and it rings true.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

Exactly. But if I had said that 30 years ago, I'd have never trusted it. But because I've now shared it over and over and over, that really helped me trust. So I would say to people, yeah, I'm not suggesting you go out and hang out a shingle if that's not your calling, because it's just as important to meditate or to pray or to speak kind words. I mean this with all my heart, as it is to be, you know, a leader, whatever. You're just being a leader in a different way. But I would say, trust yourself and like, let's say a family member's like, I just feel lost. Like, go, okay, angels, what do you got for me? And like, trust yourself and just say it. And you will be amazed at how that person will turn to you, go, my God, thank God. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 42:58

It is so true. Once you open up to that realm and you're just pulling through the messages and you just trust the guidance, it's fascinating. And to get those aha's, you're like, Oh, okay, this may not make sense to you, but this is what I'm getting.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

Exactly. Exactly. See, and so didn't you did you find not to turn the tables on you, but did you find that as you like was like, Well, I don't know whether I can say this, and then you just did like it gave you more trust in your own attunement.

SPEAKER_02 43:30

100% without a doubt, knowing that I had set up the right energetic protocol, I was grounded, I was connected, I was, you know, I'm in the flow, I'm in the stream, you know. And then it's like, just go and just say what you need to say and pull forward the energy that needs to come forward and let's go. Like, and then and then just see the client just be like, mm-hmm. Yeah, I love, I love those aha moments because then it's like, this is so fun. Like it's just exactly.

SPEAKER_01 44:03

And you know, the client thinks you're like, oh yeah, this is clear, this is clear. This meanwhile, you're going like, I don't know, but you know, I'm like you're saying, I'm in the field, I'm in the flow, and this is what I'm hearing. And it is, it really does help us trust ourselves to then go have the person go, yeah, of course. And then, and look at you don't have to be a practitioner, it could just be like you're talking to your brother or you're talking to the guy, you know, you're talking to the person on the plane that who's giving up. Do you know?

SPEAKER_02 44:31

Absolutely. And then and trust that the message is coming to you for a reason. You know, if you're sitting like for some reason, me right now, and and I run a doctor's office in my day job. So that's so of course we knew we would hit it. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am, I do. I'm like, yes, I do. And so, like, I have one doctor who's like, oh yeah, angels, crystals. I'm like, I'll throw one at your face if you'd like, you know, you'll get a healing. That is so fair. You know, and then, but for some reason, when I'm in the office right now, all I hear is songs when I'm walking by people. And I'm like, I need to. And so what I have been saying is like, this is this song is coming to me. I'm not sure why. And they're like, oh, I heard that as a kid. Oh, you remind me of my mom. Oh, you, you know, and it's just like, there's a reason why I'm at this office at this time, you know? So it's fascinating to me.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

Absolutely. And I bet you anything that they're like, I don't know why, but I just like being around you. And I'm just really glad you're here.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

People like people like sitting in my office. Exactly. And I was like, well, there's a reason. I have a frequency device, I have crystals, Rachel set the, you know, and it's and they'll tell me like it's different when you're not here, you know. And it's not because of me, it's because of the energetics, the energy that our aura brings into the office, you know, and how it blends together.

SPEAKER_01 46:02

And that's what I mean. We need we need people in doctors' offices on bus stops and on stage, and please God, in Washington, DC, and and in, you know, and in in everywhere, everywhere. And so people, you know, angels do not have a hierarchy. So you can have a monolithic great archangel, of which there's only 144 that I've seen, and there's gazillions of angels, right? One of those gazillions of angels, that great archangel doesn't think of itself as higher, it's all God, and we could learn from that. Like, no, my sitting here in nature, or not, you know, and just speaking love into the planet is every bit as important and potent as somebody speaking to 10,000 people in a stadium. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:54

And it's kind of like what you said in the beginning: we're here for oneness and we're here for love. And oneness is not the same as sameness. So we are different color threads in this oneness together, you know? So it's so fascinating. Like, I'm just like, oh, I can't wait to read your book. I'm so excited. So, for our last question, and I'm super excited because everyone, please go get this book. It does go live on July 21st, and you can get it now and get the course. And I'm definitely gonna be doing that as soon as we're finished. When someone finishes your angelic ancestry, what do you hope has shifted in their heart, their identity, and their relationship with divine guidance?

SPEAKER_01 47:34

Yes, beautiful. I hope that they will be just that much more open. I'm gonna, if it's okay, I'm just gonna let the angels yes, ma'am, please. Be aware, dear and courageous humans, that we angels see, witness, soothe, comfort, and serve you in ways you have no idea. So open your mind to have an idea of how incredibly supported you are, especially when you feel alone, especially when you feel broken open, especially when you're not sure you want to go on. Call on us. We were incepted straight from the heart of God to serve you. Call upon us. You don't have to have pretty words or the right way to do it. The only wrong way to do it is not to do it. We gain by serving you just as you gain by serving another, but that gain is invisible and infinite. So call upon us in the darkness of the night when you're worrying about the planet or yourself or your child. Call upon us in the

Angelic Closing Blessing

SPEAKER_01 48:53

brightness and brilliance of that new day when all is well. Call upon us and know that we answer with words of love and even more with a frequency of love. God bless you. Amen.

SPEAKER_02 49:10

Amen. You can feel that right in the heart. Feel it right in the heart, feel it with that unconditional, beautiful love. It was amazing. Alicia, thank you so much for coming on the Spiritual Spotlight series. I am so grateful to have connected with you today, and I can't wait to see how your book ripples out to the world. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

Thank you so much. It's really been such a delight, Rachel. And I and I just really want to thank you for what you're doing. Thank you. You're so nice. Thank you. True.