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Episode #151 B-side with Eric from Michigan, Defender of Freedom, and a casino master!
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If you've ever wondered how to juggle the fast-paced world of gig work, we've got a treat for you. Meet Eric, a seasoned gig worker, defender of freedom, and Casino Master from the southwest corner of Michigan. With lively anecdotes and inspiring tales, he takes us through his journey navigating the gig economy, sharing how he maximized his earnings through Grubhub and Spark. We also dig into the new acceptance rate feature and Eric’s personal acceptance rate journey that stands at 30%.
He paints an insightful picture of his run-ins with Spark, his challenges to gain acceptance into their program, and the unique hurdles of grocery deliveries in rural areas. We also navigate the complex world of other gig economy apps like Grubhub and Door Dash, delving into the stringent scheduling rules and their lax response to natural disasters. Listen in as Jesper shares his rookie Uber Eats blunder that led to a 90-minute delivery in East Grand Rapids. This is a conversation you don't want to miss!
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Hi guys, welcome to the gig economy podcast, the B-side.
Speaker 2:The B-side. The music is awesome man.
Speaker 1:Thank you. It's not as loud as I would have liked. I need to adjust that volume a little bit.
Speaker 2:You need a little bit more bass though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that music is by my good friend more bass. Well, i can't fix that. The music is brought to you by my good friend, christopher Tallin. If you need some music written for your show, if you happen to be listening, go ahead and hit me up and I can get you his name for sure. So today is the B-side. As you know, every other week we talk to a gig creator or a gig. What the fuck? Oh, it's on loop, sorry, hold on, hold on, hold on. We are professionals, you know. I took it off my board and tried to put it through StreamYard. Anyways, back that we interview a gig worker or a gig creator slash worker on the opposite Wednesdays of our main gig economy news show, and today we have Eric from Michigan. I wrote the title. I said give me something interesting about you Like, and he's like.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Jason, you never told me the title.
Speaker 1:I still don't know what it is. Oh, it's Eric from Michigan, Defender of Freedom and a Casino Master.
Speaker 3:Oh, I like that. Defender of Freedom. I'll take that. You might have stretched a little, but I'll take it.
Speaker 1:Oh God, yes, i've been around this business long enough Like come on.
Speaker 3:I was wondering where you were going to take that one. Yeah, I got to be as quick baby as possible.
Speaker 1:Geez, defender of Freedom, It's going to be a good one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. I mean, I have my thoughts, but I'm probably not going to go there. Hey, we'll go there, let's hear it No, no, that's okay. So hey, eric, how are you doing today, man?
Speaker 3:Good Gentlemen, it's an honor.
Speaker 2:So three years you've been listening to us. Yeah, now you're just excited to be on the show.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I had a buddy always hyping up gig work. So you know what I was at the board at work one day. I just went on the Apple Podcasts, of course, and you guys are the first ones to pop up Started. I think it was right around COVID. I was working security at the Forerunce Casino.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And we had this like guard shack outside. So when I was sitting out there, i would just play your guys' show and non-stop.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:It was the girl on there you guys used to have who would always talk about all the money she made shopping during COVID, where I was like, hmm, i need to do this.
Speaker 1:Was that Sam Sam?
Speaker 3:I think.
Speaker 2:I might have been.
Speaker 1:Oh, I missed Sam.
Speaker 2:She did some shifts. She's still around, but she's not shipped. She's not a gig right now.
Speaker 1:No, she is an accountant.
Speaker 2:Yep. So, she doesn't do any gig work, but But she's good though She's really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've definitely. She's inspiring. When did you start? Were you listening to the show when Nick was on?
Speaker 3:I remember Pete and Sam. I don't remember.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Nick was the original. Well, it was Ben, me and you, and then we added Nick.
Speaker 2:Then Nick left, and then Sam came on right, Yep, And then Ben left and then Ben was producer for a while, and then he came on, and then he And then Pete came on, yep, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then yeah, okay, yeah, so now it's just Jesper and I.
Speaker 2:Cool. Hey, Eric, why don't you tell us a little bit about your market? I know Jason said Michigan, but a little bit more about that.
Speaker 3:All right. So yeah, I'm in. Have you guys heard of New Buffalo, Michigan? It's southwest corner of the state, Yeah, Okay. So yeah, I'm down there. My market is kind of northwest Indiana, so Michigan City and La Port is one market that's right by me which is two cities with 30,000 people, And then also she has no St Joe Michigan, nice beach city, That's like 10,000 people.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:So it's like kind of the two real close to me And then there's some like nicer northwest Indiana cities as well, pretty close.
Speaker 2:Okay, and what are your main apps that you run?
Speaker 3:So apps I go, my best has been Spark, like by far. It used to be Grubhub up until like a year ago And then, like I was on last night working pretty hard, I think it's the only night I didn't take a Grubhub. I used to just kill it on there. I mean, they said me the longer offers, but it was always like 20 plus 20 plus. I had like three offers for like five something yesterday.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:I just couldn't do it. I'm lucky I get a get, get an offer on Grubhub When I first started, when before, even before, uber Ease became a thing like I've talked about it, like Grubhub was the shit.
Speaker 3:Like it makes so much money. Grubhub was unbelievable, but yeah, so like for me it's Spark. What's that?
Speaker 2:No, go ahead Spark.
Speaker 3:It's still. It's all right when I'm can log in.
Speaker 2:Like I did a couple last night.
Speaker 3:just you know, it's always $7. I feel like since I started that new acceptance rate thing, i feel like I'm not getting the good ones anymore. Maybe that's just me, but I don't think you've the Better acceptance rates, the higher tipped offers now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what is your acceptance rate?
Speaker 3:It's like 30% OK. So, for DoorDash. It's low. For me it's high.
Speaker 1:So I kind of sucked up. I tried to at least, But I had my stuff reset, So my acceptance rate right now is 75%. Now, mind you. Mind you, when I get on, I get on for an hour. It used to be like you would log in and they would give you like a two or three hour block if it's a dash now. Now it's like an hour, So I don't get a ton of offers. So my rate hasn't really dropped. But I am trying to get up to that. I am gold status now. If I can get my completion rate up, it's platinum or something like that. But I'm trying to play the game. But man, it's tough to even get on, Even to schedule seven days out. It's like you get like an hour and a half that they give you. You're like what the fuck am I going to do an hour and a half? You know what I mean That day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's my problem too, But DoorDash just actually. Doordash just started in my market, new Buffalo, which is like 2000 people, but it's a fancy beach city, oh so, and I'm like where I stay is like right, everything's close together. So it's always a $5 surge, no matter what, and if there's like one offer out there. I think I'm the only driver It'll say very busy $5 bonus.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 3:And it's just like and half the time it's this Greek restaurant that's new and it'll be like their menu's jacked up, So I'll show up, get the half pay go home. Takes like 10 minutes.
Speaker 1:Cheat code.
Speaker 3:How does that?
Speaker 1:I've never had somebody that lived right on a state like line right there. It's seamless. You can go into Indiana or Michigan and you can just be bop around.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like the DoorDash zones are different, but, like when I'm on Grubhub, you know how you can accept and they'll pay you mileage. What I used to do is I'll like be at my house, turn Grubhub on and I'll get the mileage to go into the zone.
Speaker 1:OK, wow.
Speaker 3:Can I get that like easy money there And then I always get one going home, because there's a lot of people like you know, DoorDash is kind of the further mileage ones And there's other always ones going back to a new Buffalo Resta.
Speaker 2:Oh, nice But that's pretty seamless. Oh good, So you do primarily delivery. You don't do, you don't do rice at all.
Speaker 3:No, my, my fourth focus is a little small. It's got a little bit of rust on the side, So I think that could be a. I've had a buddy cut his leg open on my door. After that I decided not to.
Speaker 2:I did get approved.
Speaker 3:I got approved on Lyft somehow, i don't know how.
Speaker 2:I was going to say. I mean, my first Uber vehicle was a was a Master 3 hatchback, so it's OK, small cars.
Speaker 3:Oh, and my AC is out.
Speaker 2:So it's like a 2009 with 245,000 miles.
Speaker 3:So it's like yeah, I guess, but bad on staying cool.
Speaker 1:I was going to say you might want to just put some duct tape on the place that the guy cut his leg on, And then you should be good to go.
Speaker 3:I mean, I got rust on my bucket too, So it's like no one gives a shit. If you say so, I'll try it.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know if you're going to fly with a no AC in the summer, though That's the part, but with these nice smoke clouds covering our sunny state of.
Speaker 3:Michigan. Now I think I might be good.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, It's horrible. So you do delivery And you mentioned your size of your market is about roughly 40,000, 50,000 people between the three markets And you mentioned that lately. Right now you're doing what's a Grubhub you mentioned. That is really helping for you.
Speaker 3:This is. Spark Grubhub's been a little bit sketchy, i still get some good ones, but.
Speaker 2:So do you have the feeling that your market is over saturated with drivers?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's definitely more saturated than it was And I think just people aren't ordering as much maybe.
Speaker 2:Oh OK.
Speaker 3:Food maybe. We have a lot of smart people, so it's hard to say, Yeah, I mean it's summer is shitty.
Speaker 1:I mean, no matter where you go, It's like gosh. I thought maybe in a tourist town you might be a little bit busier, But like it's been. Seriously, I turned on DoorDash. When I say turned on, I open the app. Today at noon, Mufflaker didn't get bread one time. I watched it. I sat around for a half hour. I had Grubhub, Uber Eats, DoorDash, Spark and Instacart on. I got maybe two Instacart orders that were just trash, Nothing else for half hour.
Speaker 3:I just went home, Wow yeah, That's what I was gonna do yesterday. I went to the gym, I turned on my apps, nothing for like a half hour, was gonna give up and then boom Spark.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:And then I feel like, once I get that first Spark, i just keep getting them. Yeah, what is?
Speaker 1:I agree, once you start rolling on something, usually they just start falling to you And then it always like I finish and then it sends you.
Speaker 3:It'd be like 20 minutes before the pickup time. It send me the one except and it just kept doing that. So I got like five in a row.
Speaker 1:Damn, that's awesome. Do you take advantage of the Spark incentives and stuff or do you just kind of work when you can?
Speaker 3:No, i love those incentives. I feel like that's the best part of my Spark right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like last time I think I did. It was like do four get $12, do six get 24.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:So I got my five, and then I end the store's closing.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:What Indiana is, because they're an hour behind. Oh shit. At least they're an hour behind, so I can work a little bit later for Walmart.
Speaker 2:Oh nice.
Speaker 3:And try and pump those out.
Speaker 3:I thought I was gonna have a nice grand finale last night. My last one is just a single for like $12, a little bit low, but I was like whatever, it's kind of had it back home And then in the app it's like call me nice cash tip waiting, yeah. So I go to the house, though, and her son answers the door and she's like, oh, my son will help you take the groceries in. I was like, oh, where's Lou? You didn't ask. Oh, i feel like by her setting, or son, it was a given, no way.
Speaker 1:If that is sent. Did you call? You talked her on the phone? Yeah, i called her. I talked her on the phone.
Speaker 3:Oh fuck that.
Speaker 1:I would be like, hey, you mentioned a cash tip. I mean, if she's verbally said that to you, I would not be awkward. I'd be like, hey, is your mom here? Because she said you had a cash tip for me.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, it was written in the instructions.
Speaker 1:Oh, ok, but I'd be a little less aggressive on it, but I mean, i think I still would ask, because you often wonder how old that note is in there, just like the right.
Speaker 3:That's what I mean. I feel like that note could have been there.
Speaker 1:Then it would get weird, I guess.
Speaker 3:I like Spark too much to push that envelope too far.
Speaker 2:Nah fuck them. They don't care. They don't care at all.
Speaker 1:So you don't do it full time right, so you are in the guards. Obviously, we try to get you a couple of weeks ago and you're doing your two weeks right.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, we do. our big. two week training is up in Grayling Michigan, So that's like three or four hours north, i think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then once a month we train out in Kalamazoo at the Armory.
Speaker 1:OK, and then you do gig work, and then you work for Jimmy Johns too. Yeah, i do, jimmy.
Speaker 3:Johns, i do a 12 hour shift all day, wednesdays. And then actually a gig for you guys, especially Jason, thursdays. It's called Market Wagon. I tried.
Speaker 1:Wait what They didn't? They're not taking my buddy Gabe, that's in the group. He does Market Wagon like one day a week. It's awesome Tuesday or Thursday And he makes bank on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do it every Thursday. I've been doing it since I started three years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I applied and I haven't heard anything from him. I don't know if it's full or You know what?
Speaker 3:I will get a hold of the. The Granville manager fills in sometimes for us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nice.
Speaker 3:I will put in a word tomorrow. Fuck yes.
Speaker 2:And it's getting on the throat.
Speaker 3:It's the easiest thing. You get a long route but you can just listen to podcasts. It'll be like 150 miles but you'll make like 170 bucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Brainless super beyond easy.
Speaker 1:Well, that's why I like Amazon Flex too. It's kind of the same thing. You get 30, 40 packages, throw your headphones in and just deliver people stuff.
Speaker 3:It's the same thing. We get like 15 packages.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So it's like or 15 like grocery bags, but it's Right.
Speaker 1:Well, whole foods open up today in our market, so you can now, we can now get offers.
Speaker 3:He has done whole foods, yet So the first time I did whole foods. I Didn't really research it before, so I was kind of clueless And I went in. Somebody posted this I should have saved. I think I saved it somewhere, but it's deep in my messages. Some guy just went on this long rant about the movie idiotic See and about how someone was so, so incompetent they couldn't figure out how to pick up the bags. I think you're starting on me. You blasted me pretty hard though.
Speaker 3:Oh, did you have trouble picking up the bags. The system was confusing at first. It was overwhelming. No it's, you get it, it's easy.
Speaker 1:Oh, i'm sure it is.
Speaker 3:It's probably Harry carry in there too right, Oh yeah, no, it's not that bad though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you just scan the bags like you do?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you just bag stir organized by freezer dry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, you got overwhelmed, it happens.
Speaker 2:Oh it's over Well it's my first time of the job, man, come on.
Speaker 3:This. That guy was kind of loose cannon. He would blast a lot of people.
Speaker 1:So those groups are just a shit show with that. So do you have a best and or worst story at all, like with all your different? It doesn't even have to be Gig work, it could be Jimmy John's or whatever. Anything that's stuck out to you like.
Speaker 3:Oh, so I did a spark, maybe like it was right before I did my annual training a couple weeks ago. So it was like groceries. I'm going down this country road, my GPS, i think it routed me. It routed me and I didn't see a house there, so I flip it around okay and I'm driving back to the same spot and there's this kid outside.
Speaker 3:So I'm like there's no way. And he's in this long grass like four feet high. Yeah, so I did. He kind of waves at me so I pull in. There's no real driveway. I couldn't see a house and I saw. I rolled my way down. I was like did you guys have groceries? He's like oh yeah, uh, sorry, We needed a mow the grass and stuff. So I grab him and he's got a wheelbarrow. He's like if you just want to throw him in my wheelbarrow, What the hell? I felt bad. He's a nice kid, didn't smell the best, but I put him all in his wheelbarrow. He wheeled them off. I could barely make out a house back there.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's creepy. Yeah, it was bizarre Oh. So you took the wheelbarrow up to the road to get the grocery.
Speaker 3:He took his wheelbarrow to the road if I don't stay out there, i wouldn't have saw the house.
Speaker 1:Did you snap no address? Did you snap a picture in the wheelbarrow?
Speaker 3:I'll send it to you guys. I Took a picture after too, but I probably shouldn't show that I feel bad.
Speaker 1:But yeah, probably not, god dang, you almost worry about that kid safety. You know what I mean. Like what's going on in that house, like you can't even see the.
Speaker 3:I mean But he's mold along.
Speaker 1:Nice kid, but tough, tough spot tough spot to be in, for sure.
Speaker 2:What about best story? Let's see maybe that was the best story.
Speaker 3:I was saying what's your biggest tip?
Speaker 1:What's that. What's the biggest tip you ever got? I?
Speaker 3:Know, i delivered pizza to a lady once and I said something like a I forgot what word I used Like something like spectacular. I said like I don't know whatever a word I used. She's like I just appreciate How you said this word and she gave me like an extra, like I think it was like $20.
Speaker 2:I Gotta remember that word.
Speaker 3:It's a good thing I remember where the I forgot word It was. There's something unique, though. I said I Was think I was warning her about being a little bit late. I, whatever verbiage I use, she just ate it up. I ate it up, it's like.
Speaker 1:It's like when I say a big word in front of my wife and she's like what the fuck, where did you get that? I Don't get 20 bucks, though I've got anything.
Speaker 3:Usually I've had a few were like Somebody. All this happened right before I went to basic training on Uber eats. I was just taking a pan down almost to the guy's house and he's like, can you stop and get me alcohol? And I've heard the stores on rideshare but I don't really like to do that stuff. So I was like, oh, i don't like right by your guys house. So I get there and he's like, oh man, i'm on house arrest, like if.
Speaker 3:I throw you a 20. Can you just go to liquor store for me? So he hands me the 20. he doesn't even have my phone number, so I was like, whatever, i'll go there for if you want me to, if you trust, i'll be back. Yeah so I go there, pick up like a $8 bottle. Come back He's like keep the change. I was like, oh, he took me extra on the food for the alcohol.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's. It's weird. You do see those requests from time to time and like door-dash or like, hey, can you pick me up a jewel or whatever. I'm totally down with doing that. But guess what? I'm gonna need that Venmo money first. I am not going to pick up anything until the cash is in my, in my hand digital not that trusting no.
Speaker 3:But if he's gonna hand me the cash in, then I go.
Speaker 1:Venmo's the same thing. It's probably more. He could have handed you a counterfeit bill. You don't know.
Speaker 2:At least I mean, at least you know it's legit Yep anyways it was best.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i, i would definitely do that. I've never had the opportunity no one's ever asked me to to do any of that, so So that's cool, hey.
Speaker 2:So you've been doing it for what? three or four years, five.
Speaker 3:Yep, yep, right in there.
Speaker 2:What are two tips for a new gig worker doing what you want to do right now?
Speaker 3:Oh, so I Don't know. I still remember when I was new, i think I was delivering up by Notre Dame in South Bend, i got a double from like Chipotle. I was just pumped out of my mind It was. It was horrible pan. I think it was like six dollars for two Chipolais. This place is like right across from campus just overflowing line And I didn't know the rule about like the cance canceling sauce, like I'm not gonna cancel, i'm not gonna cancel. Oh, i waited like an hour for two six dollar orders. One of them was going to like a COVID containment Apartment complex by name, which, yeah, so I, i should. I should have known the rules more, because you know What is it 80% completion rate you have to maintain. Yeah right.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, yeah, so just know the rules is probably the biggest thing. Okay, don't chase those low balls. I don't worry about my acceptance rate. No, i've met kids who door dash. I met one recently. He was telling me he takes everything. The guy he claims he's door dash all the way down to Florida, just taking everything you can, parking in the middle of the streets. I'm like good god man, i can't live like that.
Speaker 1:No no, that's. I mean, i have told people not to do that, not to cherry pig, but I am trying to get my stealth stuff up there so I can be top-dash here. But the problem is you need a hundred deliveries a month, which doesn't sound like a lot. But if you can't get on the damn app, how are you supposed to get it?
Speaker 3:That's a. I also get paranoid too about like because it when I started, everyone, every single one, was leave at door. Now They're all hand-in-be and if you're in like a little bit of a not a sketchy area, but like not the best, and it's like come to the back, come to the back, come to the side alley.
Speaker 1:You know, i had one the other day. I said hand to me, i knocked on the door, i texted him, he didn't come. I just frickin took a picture with my own camera, like just a Screenshot, and walked away. It was on Uber Eats actually. But I'm not waiting around, like if you're not gonna come to the fucking door, like I'm not waiting because the timer for Uber Eats is eight minutes. Oh, that's an eternity.
Speaker 1:It probably took me less time to get to his house. Then, in then eight minutes, i was like well, i'll risk him not tipping me. Of course the tip still came through, but Ah, you guys Today.
Speaker 3:I thought I was gonna get absolutely hooked up.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, sorry, i was reading screen. I was in not the best part. It was like it wasn't in fancy St Joe's across and like more middle-class Average area and this guy rolled. It was like a $29 and 30 cent Jimmy John's order.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:He rolls up these bills tight, he goes I hooked you up. Oh, what is this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, 29, one bill $32 What a asshole up the counts so, steve, from rides your rodeo, jason, just schedule every shift and work when you want during those schedules. Yeah, i need to find out when the schedule drops. It must be, i think it's 3 pm Every day or something like that. But as I have to set an alarm and get in there, but like, yeah, every time I go in there, try to schedule I mean, i even tried the day after the 4th of July, i think it's out. What does that be Wednesday? Yeah, it's Wednesday. They do seven days and they still was like three in the morning 3 30 am To 4 30 am. Okay, okay.
Speaker 3:Is it hard for you to get on the girl pop schedule? Have you tried recently?
Speaker 1:I've no, i don't even try, i just turn it on I.
Speaker 3:Can't? yeah, so do I. But I tried yesterday and I got on and I was like I wonder how that happened. Did you guys get the email? that said I got an email and you got that. Yeah, that drop blocks with no penalty due to the air quality.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, i did get that. You know it's interesting with grubhub. I never liked to get on the schedule because they were so anal, retentive. Like they would if you got Any like, if you didn't respond to them right away, or if you would, what is it? could you Take a break for like isn't like 10 minutes? It was very small amount of time.
Speaker 3:They're very strict.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I got too stressed out cuz I'm trying to multi-app and I was like fucking, i'm just gonna do grubhub Wild, i'm not gonna, i'm not gonna worry about it too much. But I had to tell you, eric, i've been around grubhub so long. I was there when they paid us $10 an hour to sit home on our couch. That's how long so funny story.
Speaker 3:The guy I work with Him at juby johns, the guy that got me in a gig work. He got banned from scheduling because I think he was Scheduling during some sort of like. There's some sort of natural disaster, so he's sitting at home getting paid. And then they came back on him because they were paying him the $10 an hour all day long. Oh and I think it was like, i think, what the power was out in the whole city. Okay, Yeah so you got paid for the whole day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the app's fault, I mean. Yeah, they should know better, i mean within two hours.
Speaker 1:You've got to know what's up. I mean, you got to be watching what's going on and there's got to be like settings. You know, yes, there's a web guy that like why is this something's going on in this market over here Like we should check it out? No, we're just gonna do it.
Speaker 2:It should be automatic. I mean it should be. It should be spot be responding to all the weather wanting.
Speaker 1:Steve, i can schedule the next four days on door-dash right now. Well, yeah, i can schedule to in the next four days, but it's 3 30 am To 4 30 am. It doesn't give me a great time to. Oh, he's sending me a picture. This is. This is the MO of Steve. Okay. So, 630 to 10 30s, got. Okay. 4 am to 4. Okay, yeah, these are all bullshit, steve. 12 am to 4 am Okay, 4 am to 3 30 am. That doesn't work. Is that a full 24 hours? Yeah, see, these are. These are all like in the middle of the night. That's yeah, i can do that too, steve.
Speaker 2:So you're telling about how being in line Um, forever, i might my my very first Uber Eats. It was. It was just a. They had just turned Uber Eats on in Grand Rapids and I've only done, like I don't know, five total, i don't know, but the first one I did. So you, you're from Grand Rapids, so you remember I own you right? Yeah, yeah, so down on your own, you there were. There used to be a place I forget the name of the place, but they always open to four or five and I'm gonna speak burritos manners.
Speaker 2:Thank you, okay, and at 1 30 I got it. I got an order for men as right to be delivered in East Grand Rapids and, of course, idiot me takes it. And this was back when there was still search and everything, and we all waiting for two o'clock, right, and I take this thing and I'm, it takes me like an hour and a half to drop this stupid burrito off in East Grand Rapids. I and I like, oh, i Lost like a lot of time the two o'clock search and everything out. So, man, Fucking rookie.
Speaker 2:That was a rookie mistake.
Speaker 3:I need gonna hit double digits and food delivery I never.
Speaker 2:That would be a no, never. I mean I take I am, i uber eats, i do have to a dash.
Speaker 3:I'm technically crop up, i guess, but I don't know where they've kicked you off by now There maybe they do yeah you know what app kicked me off when I was at basic training what you guys Have you heard a point pickup.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i applied for that one too, eric. I still can't get in. No, you didn't even get on. No, it's every time I open the app. Thanks for applying. You're on the wait list.
Speaker 3:Trust me and me, just cause I was gone for like six months, wasn't the best I'll spark any day.
Speaker 1:Oh, which phone is this on? yeah, you know, spark, if you you're gonna have to, you'll get kicked off that one too. What? mm-hmm, every winner, you know cuz I'm not doing lawn care anymore, but I would stop doing spark in like February or March and then try again in like November I would have. Now I reapplied and they, they brought me back on it. It was, it wasn't a terrible process, but yeah, they, they will kick you off the platform.
Speaker 3:So that's what I was worried about. In basic training. It felt like I think it was week six. We hit like Christmas break, so they let us fly home for two weeks. Okay so I made sure I did like at least one delivery on every app. Yeah, i wouldn't know, that's super smart because what?
Speaker 1:happens if it fills up and then you can't get back on, then you're like shit. Yeah, i first horse is about people getting on spark, it wasn't too bad for me, but now was early on, it was the first year that it came to mission or out to Grand Rapids, so it wasn't wasn't too bad.
Speaker 3:I think I remember hearing about from you actually probably what is this? Yeah, you're like I have this app. I don't want to talk specifics.
Speaker 2:Jason.
Speaker 1:Eric, i made bank one winner. That's all I did, like that was my entire. Winner was spark, and it's just gone to pot now you know.
Speaker 3:Why is it so bad now, though?
Speaker 1:saturated.
Speaker 3:Right, I feel like I get a lot of like to deliver to grocery orders for like $22 fuck, i haven't seen that.
Speaker 1:And so I used to like I used to clean up on the shop and deliveries. Like I like the shop Is huge, yeah, because I like controlling my own timetable. Right, like soon as I get it I can go to the store out to wait for a certain time to take the order. Like, yeah, i love shopping deliveries, but I Don't know, i don't know what's going on. I think you know you get to the point. Sometimes you have so many apps. It's like if I would just dial in a little bit and maybe focus, because I get bored. Right, i go to Walmart, nothing happens. Okay, i'm gonna turn door-dash on. Okay, nothing's there, i'm gonna turn this one on. I'm like, maybe if I just had a little patience and I just hate sitting. Still, it's like I'm losing at my mind Just sitting in the parking lot waiting for an order.
Speaker 2:Maybe if I had little patience.
Speaker 3:Yeah, But I think spark, once you get cracking that, i think they're gonna flow. I think you have some good days ahead on there.
Speaker 1:I need to start doing it. Our starts early. A like 7 am Like.
Speaker 3:I've never done the super early, but if I start like noon I'll go till close really, it's gonna come crashing down for you, eric.
Speaker 1:You just wait.
Speaker 3:What I don't get, though, is like we have two stores in my zone. If we have a bonus, it'll only be for the one out of the stores.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i don't know, we have three stores in our area, but one's way on the other town, one's like What do you say like middle of town and then west of town. Yeah yeah, cool. Yeah well, Eric, This is fun. I you know it was super cool that you've been listening so long. It was kind of cool to hear that. I'm glad. I don't know how we connected.
Speaker 3:Ah, facebook, i wrote, i wrote one. I think you posted a generic How's everybody's week.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, and you commented Yeah, and I don't know how about it, yeah, something about the B side.
Speaker 3:I was like whoa, it's this easy on this podcast, My friends to watch. Do you guys have any extra live streamers or they will watch the?
Speaker 2:We actually have more people today than normal. Yeah, on the B side, yeah, for sure, but no, i appreciate it.
Speaker 1:We'll stay on the line before we're done. But, guys, thank you so much for listening to the gig economy podcast in the B side. Next week We'll be back for our regularly scheduled program. I Listened to the show last week, esper.
Speaker 2:That was a rough edit buddy, i know, i know, i know, but that was my fault. Hey, you know what I? I?
Speaker 1:Am gonna. I already made a commitment and you don't know about this and it's live on on TV Every other week. You're gonna do the intro and the ads just so you get good at it, because, man, alive that, that sucked. Catherine, you're late, we're just signing off. Girl, go back and listen to it. Anyways. Thanks guys, so much for listening. We'll see you next week 8 pm.
Speaker 3:Thanks guys.
Speaker 1:Have a good night, bye, bye. This podcast is produced and edited by hey guys media group. want to start a podcast? check out Hey guys media group, comm Oh.
