Episode #154 Sexy time in a uber, driver accepts all no tip orders. Guess what happens?

Dive headfirst into the depths of the gig economy, and you'll see it's not all smooth sailing. The world of Tesla, delivering pizzas for Domino's, and the perils of owning an electric vehicle are all up for discussion. But that's not all. Join us as we tackle the tough issues, like the new law about using phones while driving, and share some laughter over the exploits of Uber drivers and their passengers.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Good evening everybody. Jason apparently said that I should do it tonight, so I don't know. The show is going to suck, but it's going to be okay. How is everybody doing tonight? Tonight we're going to talk about a bunch of cool things Sexy time in an Uber, dive except all no tip orders. That's going to go fun. And then we have a sad story at the end.

Speaker 2: 0:22

We do. That's not in the title.

Speaker 1: 0:24

No, I know it's not, but you know you, I threw it in there anyways. How's everybody going?

Speaker 2: 0:28

I hope it is going well, tommy and Steve and Catherine and Janet. Thank you guys for jumping in early. Appreciate that. As Steve always says, smash that like button if you're on Facebook or YouTube. I don't know what you do on Twitch.

Speaker 3: 0:42

Can you? There's got to be some sort of like. I don't know.

Speaker 2: 0:45

Subscribe on Twitch.

Speaker 1: 0:46

Yeah, let's do it and subscribe on YouTube too, right, you smash the like button. I don't know all the things. But thank you so much for your support, no matter what. Yeah, we appreciate it. So you're doing the next two.

Speaker 2: 1:01

I am yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:03

I want to mention our.

Speaker 2: 1:04

Patreon members, which we can't thank them enough Larry from Bowling Green, kentucky I'm stalling. Samson from Grand Rapids, steve from Colorado, chris from Grand Rapids, bud Dick from North Carolina, tom Kelly from Houston, omar from Detroit, lindsay G from Santa Clara, california. Delivery Cats from Michigan and Jamie from Tennessee. Thank you so much. If you want to join the Patreon, go to patreoncom slash gig econ podcast or just search the gig economy podcast for all. Are we doing a? Are we doing a post show tonight? Yeah, we're doing a post show.

Speaker 2: 1:34

So last night I said we were going to do a post show and I scheduled it wrong. Or last time we and I posted the next day.

Speaker 1: 1:43

I think we're going to talk about this new purchase of Jason's. I think we're going to do that tonight. What purchase? The new purchase that you want to talk about.

Speaker 2: 1:48

Oh well, we'll talk about it. It ties into article one.

Speaker 1: 1:51

Oh, there you go, you're professional so hey guys, we just want you to also to all the Apple Podcasts or Spotify where you guys are listening to it. Go ahead and subscribe to the show. It helps us a ton, so please do that and, of course, use those services to listen to the show as well. And then, of course, when you're done with that, go to the new website, which is not new anymore, but go to gigeconomyshowcom and sign up for the newsletter and I'm struggling with it a little bit, but soon there will be a blog section on there as well, and one of these days there will be a merge section up there as well, I'm hoping.

Speaker 2: 2:24

Just fucking do it. I'm getting a new web guy.

Speaker 1: 2:30

Get somebody for the same price for you.

Speaker 2: 2:32

Right, yeah, sexy time. Yeah, I just sent out a newsletter for July. I just sent one out in April and then proceeded not to do May, june, but July went out, just a little snippet.

Speaker 1: 2:45

I think it's a quarterly newsletter.

Speaker 2: 2:46

Yeah, at this point, just a little snippet of like what's going on in Jesper and Mai's life other than like gig work and stuff. So it's kind of cool to look a little bit behind the scenes. But Telegram group, I'd love to join. We had two. Oh, we had Kelly join from Philly.

Speaker 1: 3:02

There's a Frank too, right.

Speaker 2: 3:03

Yeah, but he's joined relatively, like in the last month.

Speaker 1: 3:09

So, anyways, thank you so much for joining the group, guys, and that was awesome seeing new blood in there, and we hope you hang out. Of course I do Every time I drive and Jason just came.

Speaker 5: 3:20

Oh my gosh, he's like so mad at me usually Please, because I'm not talking.

Speaker 2: 3:23

Please Pound Jesper with messages If you know he's driving, spam him with private messages, tag him the whole nine yards. Just do that, because he's like I'm like. He's like, oh, I'm busy, I'm back to back. I'm like, yeah, but you got a six, seven minute drive to your next stop, just jeez.

Speaker 1: 3:43

So I'm struggling with this whole right now because right now you're not supposed to be touching your damn phone in Michigan. So there's a new law now, specifically, that says you cannot actually even touch your phone. Okay, yes.

Speaker 2: 3:52

Riet, that is not true. You may make one button touches. You cannot hold your phone Is against a law to hold your phone. You may make one button touches. I looked at the law.

Speaker 1: 4:04

Oh, that's interesting because one tap the video. I saw there was one of the local police. They came up with a tiktok and they was explaining and they said they don't want you, they don't even want you touching your phone.

Speaker 2: 4:15

They don't want you to, but I'll have to re.

Speaker 1: 4:17

There was some interpretation there, huh.

Speaker 2: 4:19

Yeah, I mean I will find it, but it said you can't do anything more than a single tap.

Speaker 1: 4:24

Okay.

Speaker 2: 4:25

And it doesn't mean you can text and go T no, no. Like they don't mean that, but like if you were to like play Spotify and just hit play.

Speaker 1: 4:34

Or were they also saying that you can do touch to talk? Yes, I mean, it's the same thing, but that's also texting and you can't do that.

Speaker 2: 4:43

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 4:44

It's kind of weird there, but anyways, so I will do better.

Speaker 2: 4:50

I mean you want people to join, but shit, I know.

Speaker 1: 4:54

Alright, let's talk about the B-side last Wednesday. Let's talk about the B-side that was on fire. Wow, holy shit, you haven't listened to it yet. Go back and listen to it. This gentleman, he has some very interesting opinions. I mean, I will say that he was cool. He's a cool guy. I like him, but I don't, my, my, I'm not completely aligned with his opinions. Well, that's okay, we got to be different, right?

Speaker 2: 5:17

Yeah, it's good to have other people on the show.

Speaker 1: 5:19

Absolutely. I think I got other people's on the show, but he was. I think what I like the most about it is he was so much on fire for his topic. Yeah, I mean, he's definitely on fire for that.

Speaker 2: 5:29

You know where he stands on DoorDash.

Speaker 1: 5:31

Absolutely, absolutely. So if you haven't listened to him yet, go listen to him, and then you'll know the definition of hashtag app slave.

Speaker 2: 5:40

Oh yeah, I'll say it right now. I hate that when someone uses the word slave. To me it's just, it's kind of weird, right, I mean, I just that's. I don't think that's good.

Speaker 1: 5:52

So anyways it was. It was actually a good show. I enjoyed it, and so thank you for being on and definitely listen to it. It's a good read. It's a good read. It's a good listen.

Speaker 2: 6:05

I dropped the link. In the description, Yesper says or Steve says yes, you're reading very nice. Yesper is always a T-totaler, he's on.

Speaker 1: 6:12

I am very politically clear he is right on the line.

Speaker 2: 6:15

He never goes left or right, but he still.

Speaker 1: 6:19

I'm from Denmark, man, we know, we know, we don't, I know it's fine.

Speaker 2: 6:23

He. I didn't agree with him either. My only feedback for him, if he's listening, is to let other, let us talk. Let's have a discussion instead of just powering through your point, like you're going to get an opportunity, but like let, let us correct, counterpoint it.

Speaker 1: 6:38

It was a little bit hard to get an actual discussion then, but that's, you know that's okay, he has a book out, so read that book too, and I've heard it's good read.

Speaker 2: 6:47

I haven't read it yet, but I'm going to listen to it on the podcast because I don't like reading.

Speaker 1: 6:50

I haven't said yet, but I don't know if I'll actually read it. You're not going to read it. I'm not going to read it.

Speaker 2: 6:56

Um. So stories from the road, Uh, Jesper.

Speaker 1: 7:00

So I drove last weekend and and I don't really have a lot of stories other than it was just weird. So I was talking to, I was just talking to it before the show and we all know I haven't driven, driven Uber for a while because they can't get their finger out of there behind to get me back approved on the road. So, my, my, the driver part, the driving part, is not ready, but the background part is not Well.

Speaker 2: 7:21

that's why I think you were able to do deliveries again. Maybe I don't know. Although you do need a background check for doing deliveries, don't you? I don't know.

Speaker 1: 7:28

Anyways. So technically I'm into deliveries but I refuse so, so I'm not doing that. But um, but I haven't driven Uber since April 23rd. That's crazy.

Speaker 2: 7:38

It's crazy, right.

Speaker 1: 7:39

So anyway. So now I'm finally back on lift. I've been doing that for about a month and, and last weekend was up people. Uh, which is in here in Green App, it's right, anybody who's driving in Green App it's a pretty big show.

Speaker 2: 7:50

Yeah Shows. That's like one PM to 11 PM.

Speaker 1: 7:54

Two days in a row, friday and Saturday. Yeah, uh, it was sold out and Friday was good. Friday was a good driving day for me, but Saturday was weirdly slow. Yeah, it was just weird, um.

Speaker 2: 8:06

I experienced the same thing. I drove Saturday, did 30 rides in 11 hours and 57 minutes, right, uh, I was mostly back to back, but my gosh I was taking, so I think it took me longer to get them cause I was doing long ass rides, right, I mean, I was taking airport runs. I went to Holland for one of my rides.

Speaker 2: 8:25

And so, um, probably not the best to try to do those long rides, but like when it's kind of slow or not super busy, you kind of just take what you can get Right, and the Holland one paid okay, so Well that's good.

Speaker 1: 8:38

Yeah, that's good, and I mean, even though Friday or Saturday was slow, I gave up a little early, I believe.

Speaker 2: 8:43

Um yeah you, you lost your streak bonus and then you got pissed. Well, it was like midnight.

Speaker 1: 8:50

Yeah, yeah, but I still drove five hours and I still made I think I still have it's 30 hours an hour, so it wasn't bad, but Saturday I was. I think I was close to 45. Awesome, oh, so you mean reversed? Yeah, sorry, yes.

Speaker 2: 9:01

Yeah, friday, friday is better than. Saturday which is weird for rabbits Friday is always lower than Saturday, correct, but.

Speaker 1: 9:09

I think the concert helped that it did and then it didn't. It didn't make anything worse that I. Actually, my first ever pickup at the Gondola casino happened Friday. I've never done it before.

Speaker 2: 9:20

Wait, you got a request down there.

Speaker 1: 9:21

No, oh well, actually I did, I did, but I was, um, I was, I was already 15 minutes south of Grand Rapids. Okay, so I got, I got a ride down there. Oh, okay, and and it. But the interesting thing was lift, and lift shows me where I'm going, right, yeah, so it was a third of the ride. It was an Excel and and it was, it said, 20 minutes to get him. So I knew it was going like it had to be open.

Speaker 1: 9:45

Yeah, yeah, but then it was going back down town, so I'm going down to anyway, so I might as well, yeah, right. I was already 15 minutes south of the Grand Rapids, so let me just do that.

Speaker 2: 9:55

Get paid to drive home, at least I know.

Speaker 1: 9:57

So I thought I was just going to go there and pick him right up and go back, right, so they ended up actually waiting for them 20 minutes there because the dude so there's a party of six people, right, he had just won this, this 27 hundred dollars, right, okay, and he had to wait for the manual payout. Oh, okay, so we had to wait for him to get his cash, but then he gave me 70 bucks.

Speaker 2: 10:18

Oh, so worth it I know. So it was a hundred dollars Did he say hey, I'll give you a tip if you wait.

Speaker 1: 10:24

Oh, the guys who wait. They gave me $40 just right there, right away.

Speaker 2: 10:28

Yeah, wait. Well, she had to wait in the car with those guys for 20 minutes. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:31

They were just waiting, but it was fine. Then he said he gave me another $30 when he got out there. Okay so what do I care? I made a hundred dollars on that trip.

Speaker 2: 10:38

Yeah, I mean for like probably an hour of your time.

Speaker 1: 10:41

It was an hour of my time, yeah, but again, it was well worth it, yeah especially since you were going downtown.

Speaker 2: 10:47

So other than that, that long day on Lyft, I was tired. I had done a Whole Foods hour before that too, so it was 11 hours and 57 minutes on the app, plus an hour before that, so I was tired.

Speaker 1: 11:00

So Whole Foods is newer to Grand Rapids, right.

Speaker 2: 11:04

It's been here for a year, but it just started offering deliveries.

Speaker 1: 11:07

Okay, and I know I asked you, but what platform are they using here in Grand Rapids?

Speaker 2: 11:11

Amazon Flex so that's still Flex. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 11:14

So you mentioned it was different than your normal Flex. And how, what way?

Speaker 2: 11:17

Yeah, just you get a request for like an hour block or a two hour block and they pay you $20 an hour flat.

Speaker 5: 11:24

Oh.

Speaker 2: 11:24

Regardless no surging or anything, and then plus your tips.

Speaker 1: 11:28

Okay.

Speaker 2: 11:28

And they estimate tips and usually the estimate is based on the averages of the orders, which they don't have that here, but they're probably pulling some data from a similar market. So, like today, I did one. It said $20 and it was just in a $12 tip, so it was like $32, but it was one one bag to Lowell and it was a 12 mile trip, so it didn't take you an hour. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, but I still got to drive from my house which is still like a 15 minute drive and then so, but you started your day with $32.

Speaker 2: 12:03

Right, yeah. So so I the jury's still out on it. If it's worth it, sure, I don't know.

Speaker 4: 12:09

I mean.

Speaker 2: 12:10

I I'm wondering if, if you could get like an amazing tip or the you know cause. Remember, we talked about a couple of years ago that Amazon got sued. Right, we didn't have, we didn't have Whole Foods, so it didn't affect us, but they were taking the tips and using that to supplement the $20 an hour or whatever. So in the back of my head I think what if somebody gave me a $50 tip? But you know, amazon only gives me like 15.

Speaker 1: 12:31

And you don't know.

Speaker 2: 12:32

Yeah, it's not been. I've done like four of them. It's never been over their quote, which seems kind of weird. And you don't know the tip for 24 hours. It takes 24 hours to process.

Speaker 1: 12:42

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:43

So I'll find out tomorrow at like six o'clock what my tip was.

Speaker 1: 12:47

On the one you did today. Correct, okay, but you anticipated being 12 bucks.

Speaker 2: 12:51

Yeah, that's what they quoted. That estimate Okay and quotes, but many ways All right. Gig economy in the news. First up, this Tesla offers driving jobs. Tesla's offering to pay people between $18 to $48 an hour to drive its EVs this summer. It's basically so they can get data. That's all it is. They are only doing it in Austin, New York. Where was the other one? Oh, at Brooklyn and Denver, colorado. There you go, steve, you can drive a Tesla and get paid to do it. But it's funny, they have to include benefits. Includes benefits, because they're doing it in New York and New York requires companies to post salary expectations in any advertisement for a role. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know, I mean I guess I would do it. I don't know if you could use it for rideshare or anything like that, but if you were a a regular city commuter you know what?

Speaker 2: 13:50

I mean, I think it would be a good fit. You would think there's enough cars around to get that data, though, although they make you do weird stuff. No, no, that came out wrong, not like that, you sicko. Get your head out of the gutter. I meant I know, let's see. They say they do things. The drivers often repeatedly enact scenarios that can confuse Tesla's full self-driving software, like left-handed turns or unusual intersections.

Speaker 2: 14:21

So that's what they're trying to do which makes sense, because I've watched a few TikToks where they're testing it and they're videoing it. They go up to like a construction sign and it says road close and then the Tesla just tries to go right around it and keep on going.

Speaker 4: 14:36

I'm like that's a problem.

Speaker 2: 14:38

You're gonna get some old person in there that's not aware. You know the typical we're gonna drive into the lake follow the GPS and they're gonna fricking fall right in a hole somewhere. You know, I mean they put barrels up in signs, but I mean it's not like a car couldn't just plow through that if they wanted to.

Speaker 1: 14:54

So but you can still, I mean you can still just take the wheel right and then you take over? Oh, absolutely yeah, at any time oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's yes, but still, people are stupid.

Speaker 2: 15:06

People are stupid, but that being said, I finally did get my electric vehicle. I picked it up Tuesday night. I had ordered it but, of course, if you know well, you don't know I'm balls deep in EV and the Chevy. I got a Chevy Bolt EUV Premier ooh, 2023, with eight miles on it. That's not the one I ordered, though I ordered one, but they're stopping production. The rumor is August through November they don't know when. So I don't know if my order was ever gonna get put in.

Speaker 2: 15:39

So the dealer I was working with and, by the way, they're never gonna hear this, but they fucking didn't mark up my car at all. They did everything by the book, Like the horror stories. All these dealers are adding all this bullshit to the price to jack it up like warranties or like low jack or stuff like that, and you're adding three to $7,000 worth of add-ons.

Speaker 1: 16:05

Just to. But you know they get part of the MSRP, right, so they do still get money. Yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I know, but they're not taking.

Speaker 2: 16:13

Yeah, they're not taking advantage. No, that's good. So I got that car for MSRP. Not only that, since I worked for the public school, I got $500 off my car too. So I mean they had did everything right.

Speaker 1: 16:24

But you do know, the moment you drove it over the I mean the moment you picked it up it was worth $20,000 less than what you paid for it, not the bull.

Speaker 2: 16:32

I could turn around and sell it about the same price. They're hot. People want them. It's tough to get them. It's tough. Why do you think I've been waiting? Like otherwise I would have gone to the dealer and just got one. But you are right, I don't care about that.

Speaker 1: 16:48

Oh, I know, the only thing I do care about is, like I'm still jealous, though. That's the thing, oh.

Speaker 2: 16:53

Well, I got three. You're not jealous for the payment. I got 300 miles on that bitch already. I'm doing gig work today in it already. I haven't taken any passengers yet. I'm just like, what the fuck am I doing? You know what I mean, but like I got to use it for that, Like I mean I already took the plate off the pilot. It's parked outside, I saw it.

Speaker 1: 17:10

You had the gig pod right on your bolt.

Speaker 2: 17:12

Yep, my bolt transferred it over there.

Speaker 1: 17:15

And then the other cool thing that you told me about today is guys, Jason, he is comfort.

Speaker 2: 17:20

Oh gosh, I'm comfort bitch. So I said to you I don't know how I'm comfort because it's smaller, it's because it's got leather in it.

Speaker 1: 17:30

Oh sure.

Speaker 2: 17:30

That's the only reason. So yeah, I'm comfort and I get a dollar extra for a ride because I'm EV, so I will say having a battery thing in the car is a little stressful.

Speaker 2: 17:45

It's not like fuel, I don't know why, because I don't have my home charger yet. So I had to go to a supercharger today, which was about 10 minutes away, which isn't bad, but it's just like you see it going down and you're like you can't just go to a gas station, right? So when I get to my charger in my house and I can charge it every night and can be full every day, I go out, it's fine, but it still gives you a look. It's like your phone.

Speaker 2: 18:07

You know when you have your battery and you're like oh gosh, I'm down to 42%, which is still a lot. If you think about it, it's a lot.

Speaker 1: 18:15

I did see one time I was at the superchargers on Walker. I was over there putting gas in my car and somebody would drop off an EV Like they were, like been told into it. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:27

Yeah that's funny and currently we cannot use Tesla chargers. It's not set up for that. There is an adapter, but apparently Chevy announced within the next year they're entering a relationship with Tesla. Ok, and we'll be able to charge there, because their chargers are tits Like. They're super powerful. So, yeah, there's not a lot of. They call them DC superchargers. There's only like six in Grand Rapids.

Speaker 2: 18:54

OK, which seems insane but I know it's new. But there's a lot of level two chargers but it takes nine hours. Like who's going to sit there for nine hours.

Speaker 1: 19:04

No, it's true. True, I still again, as I said, I'm still mildly jealous of you. You would hate it.

Speaker 2: 19:10

It's tiny in the seat. Like you know me, I've gone from that big ass pilot to this car. I mean it's half the size I had. Oh, you're right, the Mazda I have a Mazda 3.

Speaker 1: 19:22

That's right. I keep forgetting that.

Speaker 2: 19:24

That's way smaller than mine.

Speaker 4: 19:26

I have a small car.

Speaker 2: 19:26

Yeah, you crammed your ass in there. So that's true, but yeah. I'm excited. I'm basically, once I get my charger and then I have solar to make my payment, it'll be what I save in gas. I mean, I spend $500 to $700 a month in fuel alone on that pilot, so it'll make my payment plus.

Speaker 1: 19:46

Well, and that's the thing All the money you save with your solar is going to go right into your car and you're just going to use that to yeah, yeah and that's why I did that instead of a hybrid, because I have the solar, I didn't have the solar.

Speaker 2: 20:00

I don't know if I would do just a straight EV.

Speaker 1: 20:03

Have you ever thought of one thing? What the big thing that people are always saying with gig right, it's like, well, yeah, you made $35 an hour, but you still have to pay for gas.

Speaker 2: 20:12

You don't have to worry about that anymore. I know I could say no, I didn't.

Speaker 1: 20:16

I have solar panels, so I didn't pay for anything, it's all paid for bitch.

Speaker 2: 20:20

It's pricey to use those superchargers, though, so I went from 40% to 8% to 90%, and it cost me $14. So I mean, it's still way cheaper than gas.

Speaker 1: 20:35

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:35

But still, I mean, if I had to do that every day, but why don't you get here? Oh, here it's like nothing.

Speaker 1: 20:41

Well, it will be nothing, because it's going to use your solar, it's going to use your extra power.

Speaker 2: 20:45

The only issue I will have is that day that I did that long lift. I drove 400 miles. That day I would have to find a charger in the middle of the day and charge up. There'd be no. But I still had to get gas too. So, but I got gas.

Speaker 1: 20:58

But it's easy to get gas.

Speaker 2: 21:00

And it took me five minutes or the charger's going to take me a half hour 45 minutes to get up there.

Speaker 1: 21:06

But then you say, once you get to the relationship with the superchargers, because the Tesla supercharger will charge a Tesla battery to 80% in 20 minutes. Yeah, from dead, I know.

Speaker 2: 21:15

So that's. But I don't know if my bolt can accept that much. It's all on the car too how much power it'll accept to come in.

Speaker 1: 21:23

But you'll figure it out. Yeah, well, we'll figure it out, or your bolt will die.

Speaker 2: 21:28

Well, yeah, and I can plug in my house right now to 110. And I get three miles an hour. So that means every hour it charges it for three miles.

Speaker 1: 21:38

So, anyways, the next story is also about EVs. Oh, it is, but it's actually EVs because it's the automatic vehicles.

Speaker 2: 21:46

Autonomous.

Speaker 1: 21:46

Autonomous vehicles, basically the companies in San Francisco. They're talking about the companies robot axes and the Google's model, which is which one I forget. Come on, what's the name of it?

Speaker 2: 22:02

It's Waymo and I don't know.

Speaker 1: 22:04

Waymo and robot axes there you go. So the article is all about the people Like. There's big groups of people who are really against all these automatic vehicles, and so there's a group called the Safe Street Rebel that are fed up with what they perceive to be driverless nuisances. So they came up with a way to like, without ruining anything.

Speaker 4: 22:32

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 22:32

To kind of make it basically they take a cone and an MTAV and they just kind of put the cone on the top of the hood, OK, and then it stops the EV.

Speaker 2: 22:45

Just like dead in track. It's dead in the track Because the camera is. They call it the unicorn.

Speaker 1: 22:52

The unicorn, the AV, and then it's just dead.

Speaker 2: 22:56

So what happened?

Speaker 1: 22:58

Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 23:01

I hope they're not doing it while it's driving down the road though they do, so they just Well then it becomes a traffic hazard.

Speaker 1: 23:06

But that's the problem, that's the issue too. So they say here that, basically, despite the present pushback from local officials, crews and Waymo want to expand past their physical goal. No, that's the way it was, but anyways. So, yeah, exactly. So, as they're stopped by the MTAV, because they're stopped by stop lights or whatever, they will go over, put a cone on the hood and it doesn't go anywhere.

Speaker 5: 23:29

Right.

Speaker 1: 23:29

And then it's just right there in traffic. Obviously, the companies are now saying this is obviously wrong and essentially illegal. Right, but there's nothing happening with the cars.

Speaker 2: 23:45

They're not damaging it. No Question Do those cars currently have an attendant or are they, like, completely autonomous?

Speaker 1: 23:53

I don't know. The article doesn't mention that, ok, but I believe they are completely autonomous.

Speaker 2: 23:58

And they're not Uber or Lyft cars. They're just getting data right, that's. They're just practicing.

Speaker 1: 24:03

And yes, but also driving. I want to say they drive stuff around possibly. Oh, ok, so.

Speaker 2: 24:08

Yeah, if there's an attendant, it's no big deal, he just gets out and throws a call Well, yeah, but yeah, they are empty, so they got to have dash cans on them. Are they wearing like masks? I know that article probably doesn't. It's like there's got to be some video on it Because, like you would be able to figure it out who's doing it eventually. I mean there's got to be cameras all over that car.

Speaker 1: 24:27

So it says, although it's no secret that some of these robot axes have caused issues with local traffic patterns, not everyone is necessarily anti-autonomy. In fact, some people even shame the cone places and Twitter comments, calling the move in a strained anti-progress agenda. I still think it's fun how they make it a unicorn.

Speaker 2: 24:45

Yeah, it is funny Real quick. Before I make another comment about carts, I want to show that this guy's name is Thomas, he says, from the city of Grand Rapids, michigan, delivery driver from Comstock Park. That's right in our backyard, 15 minutes north. So nice to meet you, thomas. Thanks for coming around, hit, subscribe and like all those fun stuff, and we appreciate it.

Speaker 1: 25:06

Nice, thank you. I was in Comstock Park last weekend.

Speaker 2: 25:09

Yeah, so the whole cone thing reminds me. Have you ever seen those cart and arc videos? Basically, they videotape you when you don't put your cart away at the grocery store, oh yeah yeah, see, I hate those guys. I think they're very aggressive.

Speaker 2: 25:25

And it's like this guy makes six figures by doing that creating content for that. I don't know he's going to get shot. I've seen some pretty aggressive guys come after this guy. I get it, you should bring your cart back. But you're literally going through the parking lot and throwing magnets on cars and putting carts behind them.

Speaker 1: 25:45

I'd be like but let's look at Maya, for instance. Yeah, they have people hired for that.

Speaker 2: 25:52

Right, exactly.

Speaker 1: 25:53

That's the whole point. I would never put it in front of another car or in a place where the cart would go into another car and I would say nine or 10 times I would put it into a cart corral.

Speaker 2: 26:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 26:05

But I mean, come on.

Speaker 2: 26:07

Yeah, I feel like he's becoming. He causes more of an issue when he puts the cart behind the car. I mean, if he did that to me, I wouldn't cause a scene, I would just get out and put it in the corral. But I typically, when I'm going to Walmart, when I'm doing like gig work, I specifically park next to the cart corral so I don't have to walk it back too far. So I don't know, I just think it is reminding me of that cone. It's like, yeah, he's not really wrecking anything, but it is kind of like what are you doing?

Speaker 1: 26:32

So what do you think of all these concepts?

Speaker 2: 26:34

I mean it works. You never see a freaking cart out there. People will do a lot of shit for a quarter 15 cents.

Speaker 1: 26:40

Yeah, it's a quarter. Yeah, 25 cents.

Speaker 2: 26:42

Quarter is 25. It's been that way since the country started. You dumbass, anyways, all right. Okay, so this is a video. We've watched these before. I really like when people confront people that say they didn't get their food. So we'll watch that real quick and discuss when I play it.

Speaker 5: 27:06

This is me pulling up to 7-Eleven. This guy, Burinder S, didn't or claims that he didn't get his order when I delivered it, and I know for sure I delivered it. So let's see how this is gonna go Calmly.

Speaker 2: 27:27

Calmly His wife or girlfriend's like calmly oh, get ready for a cops camera. He's not holding it right, so you about to throw up.

Speaker 4: 27:50

Anita.

Speaker 5: 27:52

Is your name Burinder Burinder. Hey, you remember yesterday when I came in and I gave you your DoorDash, your order. Yeah, you can. Okay, so why did you report it that I didn't give you your?

Speaker 2: 28:03

order. I didn't order it.

Speaker 5: 28:05

No, you reported it. I had to pay for your order, dude.

Speaker 2: 28:09

No, I didn't.

Speaker 5: 28:10

So that's fraud so let you know. Yeah, I did pay. You reported to DoorDash that you did not receive your order. No, because DoorDash contacted me and said that you contacted them.

Speaker 5: 28:23

Look, you're a thief, bro. You're robbing us hard ass workers out here trying to make a living. Yeah, you did, though, bro, I hate these man. We're just trying to make a living. You could have just paid for your simple McDonald's order, bro, that's all. No, I don't do that, but I gotta pay for it. What I gotta pay for your McDonald's, but it tastes good. I don't know about that, but I didn't. I didn't report anything. Well, doordash is investigating it. I have a GoPro camera on my car. It records me coming and going in every fucking place that I go. Okay, so I know I delivered it to you. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3: 29:03

I'm changing.

Speaker 4: 29:04

Yes.

Speaker 5: 29:05

Okay so, and I got you on camera. There's cameras in here, so when they complete their investigation, they'll find out.

Speaker 4: 29:10

Because I'm just trying to make a living, you know.

Speaker 5: 29:12

That's all. You're fucking with my job, bro, you want me to fuck with your job? Put your dick on there. And your fucking teeth is what you are.

Speaker 1: 29:21

Calm down.

Speaker 2: 29:24

Oh my gosh, that guy was a lot calmer than I would have been.

Speaker 1: 29:27

Oh, I know.

Speaker 2: 29:28

I don't know if I would have had the balls to confront him, though I mean as much as I can be kind of a blunt guy, I think I would. I don't know if I would have the balls.

Speaker 1: 29:37

So I've seen and again, I don't want to be that guy, but I've seen more and more videos of this, yeah, so could it just be fake because he's just wanting to create a video?

Speaker 2: 29:48

No, that did that. No, Because that video was ghetto.

Speaker 1: 29:52

He held the phone wrong, Like if he's going to be like and I don't know if it is, but I'm just always asking the question.

Speaker 2: 29:59

But here's the problem he's probably going to get deactivated. Oh, yeah, because if it goes viral. I don't know if this is viral and I don't know how many people would watch it, but if it goes viral and DoorDash gets a, hint they're just going to be like bro, you can't do that.

Speaker 1: 30:10

Like I mean bye, here's your $15 back and you buy yeah.

Speaker 2: 30:15

Don't tell Tom Jeff that he got deactivated, because you know Jeff well, he'll probably be happy. But back to the carton arcs. He says when Thomas says, when I go to the store I leave my car out in the hopes that the carton arcs bust me. It would be a funny experience. I don't think they're in Grand Rapids, I really don't.

Speaker 1: 30:35

But don't fuck with me, carton arcs. You could start a new one like that Jason, you could become a carton arc.

Speaker 2: 30:40

I could. This next one is a Uber driver tries to lie to police, but dash cam clears the driver. Ok, you're going to hate this video because you're going to want to smack the shit out of these girls, or did I skip one?

Speaker 1: 30:53

Well, that's fine, you can do it. It's just mine. But who cares? Ok, we'll go back. We'll go back All right.

Speaker 2: 30:58

so this is a 52 seconds of a video in mold discuss he's kidnapping us.

Speaker 1: 31:06

He's kidnapping us 45, he's kidnapping us.

Speaker 2: 31:09

He's kidnapping us, wait, but the best is that this is not a video.

Speaker 5: 31:12

I got dash cams inside.

Speaker 1: 31:13

He's going to send you some help. All right, thank you. I'm at a corner of Anita Drive and Hanover Road you are a liar, you are a liar. Anita Drive and Hanover Road.

Speaker 4: 31:26

You are a liar.

Speaker 1: 31:28

I have a 2016 Toyota camera.

Speaker 4: 31:30

And he has a child lock in the car. Child lock in the car.

Speaker 1: 31:34

We can't get out of the car you just got out.

Speaker 4: 31:36

We can't get out of the car.

Speaker 1: 31:38

You're on video you just got out. We can't get out. You're on video, you just got out. Help, help, help. I just got out.

Speaker 2: 31:50

I'm very angry at those girls right now. I want to smack the shit out of them and they kicked his seat. I know I'm like getting red thinking about it.

Speaker 1: 32:01

Can you see them? I can see them kicking your new bolt right now. I might go to jail that night.

Speaker 2: 32:06

I might go to jail, I might be done with gig work. At that point, Like holy shit, Like how does I get?

Speaker 4: 32:14

I mean I don't get what they did, but don't damage the car.

Speaker 2: 32:17

Just get the fuck out.

Speaker 1: 32:20

See, here's the thing, though A lot of these people they may realize it or whatever, but they don't think about it anymore. This is personal property.

Speaker 2: 32:26

Yeah, and it's someone's job. I'm not working for fucking Starbucks as an employee. You know what I mean. This is my car. I'm responsible for all this. Like, yeah, I do work for Uber, who is a big company, but they're not going to help me. Like, just leave my shit alone, right that?

Speaker 1: 32:44

video stressed me out, taking you from A to B, so I want to talk to you real quick before I forget. Earlier on early in the show, tom Liston asked how cold is it at the picnic time? Oh, I wanted to just touch on that. So picnic is when?

Speaker 2: 32:57

Well, first of all, he's being a smart ass. Because he lives in Chicago, he knows what the temperature is in September.

Speaker 1: 33:04

Anyways, go ahead, yeah, we never talked about the picnic. Well, there you go. I thought it was a good way to kind of talk about the picnic, because we all know that Jan and the Cummins are pretty exciting In September. It's September 18? I don't know. It's late in September. I think it's the 23rd, 23rd. So I mean it's still going to be 80. No, almost 70, 75, 80.

Speaker 2: 33:29

Well, here's the thing that the last couple of years spring is very late and summer goes a lot farther.

Speaker 1: 33:35

I can't believe we forgot what fucking day it was so anyway, yeah, so it's whenever Janne gets here, so just follow that.

Speaker 2: 33:42

Yeah, just don't let Janne tell you I can't even find the event tab on my stupid ass website. It's got to be the 23rd. Pretty sure it's the 23rd.

Speaker 1: 33:52

So anyways, so yeah, no.

Speaker 2: 33:54

I got to find it.

Speaker 1: 33:55

I'm not moving on. Go to Facebook.

Speaker 2: 33:57

I'm working on it, bitch. Yeah, it's the 23rd at 2PM. How do I forget that?

Speaker 1: 34:02

Riverside Park. Riverside Park at the island. So yes, cummins, it's got to be awesome nice. I heard that it's going to not rain. It'll be an awesome, great day. So we don't know.

Speaker 2: 34:14

We don't know the temperature. Look up an Almanac.

Speaker 1: 34:16

Tom, you're old.

Speaker 2: 34:18

You know what those are? All right, yes, brother, this is your video.

Speaker 1: 34:22

Yeah, so this is the. It's stupid and short.

Speaker 2: 34:24

Like me.

Speaker 1: 34:32

I thought you were going to say inactive and short. First and last day delivering for Grubhub Made this I'm going to play it again Fuck your grass.

Speaker 4: 34:42

You're finishing this motherfucker's grass. Fuck your grass. Man fuck brother. He'll pin him up in his shit. Man Fuck this shit.

Speaker 2: 34:49

Well, at the beginning he says fuck your grass. So I think the guy yelled at him for walking on his grass, but the grass wasn't even nice, it was like it was burnt as shit, Fuck your grass.

Speaker 4: 35:00

Fuck all you. Fuck your grass. You're finishing this motherfucker's grass. Fuck your grass. Man fuck brother, He'll pin him up in his shit. Man, Fuck this shit.

Speaker 2: 35:10

I think that was fake. If it was real then I mean the guy wasn't even out there, if you look at the door. So it may have been fake, but Fuck your grass. I mean he probably is still going to get deactivated.

Speaker 1: 35:21

I mean, that's the thing. He wasn't even a driver. Well, true.

Speaker 2: 35:24

Yeah, Grubhub. Yeah, it could have been a complete bit, so I have no idea.

Speaker 1: 35:28

But it's so interesting and I needed some content. That's not what I thought.

Speaker 2: 35:32

Yeah, if you guys ever have any stories, you can email us team at gigeconomyshowcom or send me a message or if you ever see a good story, like you can join the chat and tell us that way, yeah. I'm always up for articles Send them, send them send them Because sometimes we have slow weeks where there's not a lot going on. So, I want to talk a little bit about Octopus Tablet, because, yes, bruh.

Speaker 1: 35:59

You skipped one on again. No, I didn't. Oh, that was me. Yes, I finally got a tablet.

Speaker 2: 36:03

You got a tablet. Well, I don't have it yet, but I got approved, so tell us how it finally worked. Did you do more?

Speaker 1: 36:11

I used my wife's phone number. That was the thing.

Speaker 2: 36:13

Like brand new, well, no? Or like you created a new account.

Speaker 1: 36:16

Yeah, just created a new account with her phone number. So because I was just going round and round and round for some, whatever reason, my phone could not get the verification number.

Speaker 2: 36:25

Yeah, it's because it's Android.

Speaker 1: 36:27

No, my wife's exact same phone bitch, so I just used that account with her phone number. I got approved right away and it's off to the races Perfect.

Speaker 2: 36:37

Yeah, it says 10 days. You'll get it. You'll probably have it by Friday, but check the link in the description if you want to sign up. Basically, it's a tablet that plays games for your riders, Tells them to tip, gives them a little information about you, what the weather is, all kinds of stuff. Earn up to about $100 a month as passive income just driving around and they have a pretty cool supporter here.

Speaker 1: 36:59

Yeah, you get broken phone, a broken cable and it sends you new ones.

Speaker 2: 37:02

My favorite thing is and it does this for them too, to save money. But like, when you stop for like two minutes it shuts off. It just turns off, and when you start driving again it realizes it. It's crazy. I don't know what they've put on there to make it do that, because I don't know of a tablet that I mean, maybe it's an easy thing to do.

Speaker 1: 37:20

Well, the tablet has that Accelerometer, accelerometer, okay, so they probably created some code around it and shut it down.

Speaker 2: 37:27

So that's super cool and if you drive every day you don't really have to take it out to charge it. Charges enough with the. You know I leave it plugged in all the time.

Speaker 1: 37:34

I might have my kid play it when I use it when I'm just out driving.

Speaker 2: 37:38

I don't know. Yeah, I mean, you never leave the house anyways. What are you talking about? Anyways, check it out. Link in the description Appreciate if you use that link to sign up. Yep, helps us too. Okay, so there is a.

Speaker 1: 37:51

I know there's a story there and I don't know who. It's on there With no name.

Speaker 2: 37:55

I think it's mine.

Speaker 1: 37:56

You can take it, I'll just take it.

Speaker 2: 37:58

I didn't read it. Oh no, I did read this one. I do read mine. Domino's this is actually incredible. Domino's, who doesn't use delivery service, stock jumps more than 10% as pizza chain partners with Uber for food orders, customers can order its products at Uber's eat in Postmates app. The pizza chain said on Wednesday, and bid to boost sales amid slow delivery business. Well, it's slow because people can get everything else now delivered, when it used to be just pizza places deliver and you cleaned up because it was Papa John's Domino's Pizza Hut. What else? What else chain? I mean not very many major chains.

Speaker 1: 38:35

You know that the only major chain that we all know of is Domino's.

Speaker 2: 38:38

Really, that's amazing. The pizza maker, which had flag sluggishness in delivery business in April, said partnership will begin in four pilot markets. In the fall, the US ordering Uber's delivery apps is expected to be enabled across the country by the end of 2023, with Dynamos and its franchise handling delivery. Oh, so that's interesting. That's what Jimmy John's does, what you can order on DoorDash, but Jimmy John's deliver it. That's what they're doing too.

Speaker 1: 39:09

Oh sure, so they're not really. They're just using the platform for their orders.

Speaker 2: 39:12

Yeah, they're not impl Okay, yeah, I didn't read that close clearly. Oh, so they're not employing any Uber drivers to do it their own drivers.

Speaker 1: 39:21

Well, at least that's what they're saying now.

Speaker 2: 39:23

Yeah, so how does what?

Speaker 1: 39:24

happens once it's explode. See, the other part of that is like they're already slower as it is.

Speaker 2: 39:28

Yeah, I wonder how that works with fees. If you're not having, is it less of a fee? It's gotta be right. If you're not having Uber drivers, take it there's gotta be a less of a fee on them to use the platform. I guess I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Well, that's kind of sucky then.

Speaker 1: 39:45

I mean, we fucking want the work, like you know what I mean, like anyways, but I think it's the first step towards sending the orders out to us, because they gotta find they can't keep up. And then what are they gonna do with the rest of them?

Speaker 2: 40:00

That's a good point. How are they going to prioritize? I mean, maybe they just hire more drivers.

Speaker 1: 40:05

There's, no, no, there's more drivers. I know, I know, that's just a-.

Speaker 2: 40:09

That's actually a really good point. If they're not gonna, yeah, they're gonna have to offer a shit ton of money. But they have a few EVs. They drive Chevy Volt.

Speaker 1: 40:18

There's six EVs in there, that's-.

Speaker 2: 40:19

Yeah, I think each store.

Speaker 1: 40:22

There's not a lot of Domino's stores in the city, but I thought it was just one who got six Like one franchise owner.

Speaker 2: 40:28

No, no, I think they each got one. I bet you.

Speaker 1: 40:31

I don't know. I don't know why. I heard it was one franchise owner, so maybe it's one franchise owner who owns all six and got it.

Speaker 2: 40:37

I don't know, could be that's true, but yeah, that's a good point. I wonder how that's gonna work. The same may be said for Jimmy John's too, but yeah, interesting.

Speaker 1: 40:47

I don't know. One of the things is Jets has their BLT pizza bag.

Speaker 2: 40:52

I've never had that. It's the best. Do they use regular pizza sauce? Yeah, so it's regular pizza sauce, but like a BLT lettuce tomato and bacon.

Speaker 1: 41:00

Yeah, but then they also put dressing on top.

Speaker 2: 41:03

Oh, they do what dressing?

Speaker 1: 41:06

Like a salad, it's like a mayonnaise, oh really.

Speaker 2: 41:08

That doesn't sound good.

Speaker 1: 41:10

It is, it's really good.

Speaker 2: 41:11

Don't pressure me to eat your fucking BLT from Jets. What are we doing here? Oh, this guy. This is crazy. This is crazy. Was there only picture tonight?

Speaker 1: 41:23

No, I thought it was two.

Speaker 2: 41:24

Do we have two? Oh no, yeah, we have two.

Speaker 1: 41:26

I'm gonna have to sell. But yeah, so this is ridiculous to put it up. Yeah, it's up, okay, cool, so yeah, that's what he's saying. Yeah, well, I'm not sure who socialized you, but not only will you not be matched with me again, you won't be using Uber services under your own name. Information again. This was during the downpour on Saturday afternoon and they were promptly kicked out when I realized, basically, two people sitting in the back and I mean, I don't even know if it's a man or a woman that's going down on him?

Speaker 2: 41:57

We don't know.

Speaker 1: 41:58

It could be either. He's definitely having, Earl is having a good time. So, drivers, if you don't have one yet, get a deathcam. It truly is our only defense.

Speaker 2: 42:09

I know I still gotta move mine over. I'm not gonna wire the third one. It's so much wiring to run it to the back, to keep it hidden. You know, like I think, because you can use that without the third one.

Speaker 1: 42:19

I think I'm just gonna Well, your car is small enough.

Speaker 2: 42:22

You don't need to Well the third one it goes out the back window.

Speaker 1: 42:25

Oh, I get it. It goes one on the back window one on the front end cab.

Speaker 2: 42:27

So I think I'm just gonna transfer the cab over to the end, cab one.

Speaker 1: 42:31

But anyways, this guy is obviously having some fun.

Speaker 2: 42:35

He's getting a blow job for our audio listeners that can't see the picture he's getting his dick sucked.

Speaker 1: 42:42

Okay, are you done?

Speaker 2: 42:43

That's what she said. Yeah, I'm done. You were like flirting around Our audio listeners we don't.

Speaker 1: 42:49

I was trying to stay PG-13.

Speaker 2: 42:51

No, it's an explicit show, because the audio listeners are like okay, was he having sex? Was he getting? A handy, like I just had to, like put it out there.

Speaker 1: 43:02

And so did he.

Speaker 2: 43:05

Fucking idiot. All right. Next, what time I mean? Look at the time 46 minutes.

Speaker 3: 43:10

I know.

Speaker 2: 43:12

This is just. I'm just curious of what your thought is. Just read the question. You want me to do it? I'm right there. Yeah, no, yeah, uber drivers. What things make you give a lower rating? So when you're out driving?

Speaker 1: 43:28

and some what you missed it? You skipped another one.

Speaker 2: 43:32

Did I.

Speaker 1: 43:32

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 43:33

Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1: 43:34

Except all no tips orders.

Speaker 2: 43:36

Just fucking listen. If I skip one, send me a goddamn message somewhere, because it slows the show down.

Speaker 1: 43:43

Okay, fine, stay to it.

Speaker 2: 43:45

Fuck, you know who's getting a one-star tonight. You are yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:52

Okay, so what is gonna make? What things will make you give a low, uh, less than a five-star, yeah, to your customers to a client.

Speaker 2: 43:59

What are some of the things that you do For me? I know you barely give low ratings.

Speaker 1: 44:05

I don't, I always. I mean, I was reading some of these comments, so most of them it's a five-star or one-star. There's not in between. Yeah, that's for me. Okay, and the only way I would ever give a one-star is if they disrespect me. That's it.

Speaker 2: 44:20

Like what's dis like what's Like get personal with me, oh, so personal yeah.

Speaker 1: 44:25

Or if they ruin all my stuff.

Speaker 2: 44:27

I mean.

Speaker 1: 44:27

I have people puking my car. I took them five stars, I don't care.

Speaker 2: 44:31

I mean no, I will not give a five-star if you barf in my car. I'm paranoid now of barf.

Speaker 3: 44:38

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 44:39

I'm just like whatever. I don't have rubber mats yet either. It did not come with rubber mats, so I have to order those too. But and no tinting. None of the windows are tinted. I'm getting that done on Monday. I'm like shit. The 500 I saved is getting eaten up. But tinted rubber mats, so anyways.

Speaker 1: 44:58

But you're going to get those anyways. Yeah, for sure. So you are-.

Speaker 2: 45:02

So I broke it so.

Speaker 1: 45:02

I broke it yeah.

Speaker 2: 45:05

I'm more aggressive on the stars. I don't know.

Speaker 1: 45:08

It's because it's our only If they touch your radio. Now they're two stars.

Speaker 2: 45:11

Well then I slapped their hands. I just don't I don't know. It's our only retaliation. Like, does it make me feel a little bit better when I once are them? Yeah, I does, because I know at some point down the road they're going to get another one and then their rating's going to be so bad that they can't use the platform anymore.

Speaker 1: 45:26

So there used to be a rule that if you give them three stars or less, you'll never get matched with them again. Do you think that's actually the truth anymore?

Speaker 2: 45:33

I think it is for Lyft. I don't think it is for Uber, although, pete, he got matched with Ivory a bunch of times.

Speaker 1: 45:39

But he had different accounts. That's true, Ivory. He was like a counting job or whatever.

Speaker 2: 45:45

Here's some of the things Too much perfume. Ask me to make a stop somewhere. If you want to stop, put it in when you request a ride so I can avoid picking you up. Yes, I denied a ride over the weekend because I was like no, I ain't doing this. This stop has an extra stop.

Speaker 1: 46:00

Decline. I had somebody. I got there, I accepted the ride and then they changed it and added a stop.

Speaker 2: 46:06

And then I declined oh yeah, oh. So you hadn't even picked them up yet.

Speaker 3: 46:10

No no no.

Speaker 2: 46:11

Oh, you dumb fucks, you got to wait till you're in the car. What?

Speaker 1: 46:13

No, I just canceled the ride. No, no, no, I'm saying they should have waited. Hey, can I?

Speaker 2: 46:18

add. Because if you're already in the car and you say, can I add a stop?

Speaker 4: 46:22

I'm going to let you add I'm not going to cancel the ride.

Speaker 2: 46:25

I'm going to say, yeah, you can add it, but please keep it for keep it for five minutes and I'll be damned after 501. I'm ending that ride and getting the frick out of there.

Speaker 1: 46:34

You're putting the baby out of the cold and you're leaving.

Speaker 2: 46:36

Yeah, exactly, Pouting, swearing, eating in car, refusing security protocol, grunting, aggressive, aggressive, phase dunk, slurring, drunk, burping, drunk, passed out drunk. Well, yeah, a lot of. I had to stop slamming my door, making me wait and then screaming about being late, taking that last puff of the cigarette before getting in my car. Oh God, I will. One star that I hate that too. And then my car stinks.

Speaker 1: 47:09

Yeah, I mean, but yeah, Okay, I can see it, what about? Food.

Speaker 2: 47:14

I don't care, you don't care.

Speaker 1: 47:15

No, they bring, just don't make a mess. If you make a mess, I will report you and I'll get money.

Speaker 2: 47:22

So they, they, they get in with an open. Open. Why can't I speak words with a bowl of soup and you're like I'm cool with that, like that that I would say keep the lid on. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 47:34

I mean if it's something opening that's going to make a mess right, just keep the lid on. Don't need that in my car. But I mean, why don't I care if they're eating a burger or something, I don't care.

Speaker 2: 47:45

No, I don't know man, my pilot maybe, but I got I got to have someone break the seal in my back like not like like spill something that I can just wipe up them Like. Okay, it wasn't as bad as I. I had imagined. It's fine, although my seats have are ventilated, can you imagine if someone pukes?

Speaker 1: 48:05

in that. That's my problem to mine is to I think most all leather seats now are ventilated yeah. Now speaking of that, by the way, I'm just a quick question Are you going to be wiping them down with leather conditioner?

Speaker 2: 48:19

No, you have to. Why, because?

Speaker 1: 48:21

otherwise the leather cracks over over time.

Speaker 2: 48:23

It must be cheap leather then, because my pilot, I've never done that and it didn't crack. Well, it didn't you mean like crack, break open, or just get like micro cracks.

Speaker 1: 48:32

Micro cracks. Yeah, mine does, I don't care, oh, okay.

Speaker 2: 48:35

Yeah, I mean I'll wipe it down, get the jizz off.

Speaker 1: 48:38

But I bought, I bought like.

Speaker 3: 48:41

You bought jizz protector, jizz protector.

Speaker 1: 48:44

That's what the blue light is for.

Speaker 2: 48:46

Yeah, there you go. All right, man, we are at 52. We're dicking the door.

Speaker 1: 48:52

So why don't we just go to the sad story Because we got to remember that one All?

Speaker 2: 48:55

right.

Speaker 1: 48:58

Actually, there's an ad in there. Do you want to do?

Speaker 2: 48:59

that Just do the story.

Speaker 1: 49:02

Okay, so basically, the sad story is that an Uber, a Lyft driver in DC got killed and the sad part is that he was actually a. He was an Afghan interpreter and worked very closely with the US military for many, many years and he went through immigration.

Speaker 1: 49:24

He grew up in Afghanistan went through immigration went through, living through this hell of all that, and then he just had just a ton of hardship and everything like that. And then the irony of being shot at night driving Lyft in DC. I just I cannot even get over it.

Speaker 2: 49:47

Yeah, he survived all that. But he gets shot as a driver, as a wheelchair driver.

Speaker 1: 49:51

Yeah, I mean that's, it's just. Sometimes the world just sucks. This was just an overall, from what I can read, just a really good family guy. He was father of four girls, wife, and just out there doing his thing to make the money to keep them, to keep his wife, whatever, and sent back home back to the rest of his family in Afghanistan. Two jobs and you get fucking shot while doing Lyft at night.

Speaker 2: 50:21

Yeah, it's scary, I swear like once a week I hear about a driver getting killed. Like we, we do roll the dice a little bit Like we do. There's no other job out there that, like we neither of us do that we're rolling the dice with safety.

Speaker 1: 50:35

Well and I know it's a little bit I'm kind of kidding myself when I say well, I'm driving in Grand Abbot, this is not going to happen here. Yeah, it could happen here, just like anywhere else, right?

Speaker 2: 50:44

I mean, but in DC you probably it's a lot more crying.

Speaker 1: 50:47

I was going to say the the crime rate in downtown Chicago, detroit, dc. Higher, right, way higher, and I wouldn't drive there at all Me either. That's the thing. So I don't know, it's just I just thought it was sad and what a waste. Yeah, it sucks. I mean, oh, it just sucks.

Speaker 2: 51:04

Why couldn't it be those girls that were in the last video that got shot?

Speaker 1: 51:08

No, I shouldn't have said that. I should have said that yes.

Speaker 2: 51:10

But I mean, that's my point. You got fricking assholes like that and this guy's just trying to live his life and support his family. I know, I know Bullshit.

Speaker 1: 51:18

Doing what he can. And he's just here and somebody just comes with wasted and basically they still haven't found out who did it, but they did fee. They did see four young people men on on. I think there might have been a camera, I'm not sure, but they. They saw four young men flee the scene.

Speaker 2: 51:37

Well, that's the problem too is like, even if you are packing, you're so vulnerable they just got to put a gun in the back of your head Like you're not going to whip around, like it sucks, yeah. So, speaking of sucks, let's talk about Gary's app.

Speaker 4: 51:51

Go to the link in our no totally kidding Gary.

Speaker 2: 51:54

He won't hear this. I love Gary. He would think that was funny. Go to his link in the description. We have Maximal Flex Alert, which I use almost every day, and drive you a Tilly Hepper, which I don't use a lot because I can't get on fucking DoorDash and but, anyways, all those apps make things easier for you, keep you safer on the road.

Speaker 2: 52:18

You can automate most of them to like, accept, decline all that fun stuff. Go to his website. Use our link, though, before you go and you can explain it more. But, gary, thank you so much for supporting the gig economy podcast. We are doing a Patreon tonight because we do did miss some stories, but there's two, two videos a short video, the TikToks. I want to play that. I think are funny. One is I took out the ones you had in there. Those were terrible.

Speaker 1: 52:44

I know those two.

Speaker 2: 52:45

They were so bad. I was like I love you, jesper, but like I spent like a half hour going through TikToks. But these two are, I think, are good Good. This is a little comedy bit about driving Uber is scary and then an Uber driver tells somebody to fuck off, basically, so let's play. I know my video is so bad. Yeah, it's okay, it's all right, I appreciate you doing this. This is minute 17.

Speaker 3: 53:07

So one of my last rides ever I quit because I went to pick up a guy right, grace, what's on? And you had a fucking piece coming down his leg. So obviously when I was driving up I was like, well, hope that's not as cock.

Speaker 4: 53:16

Right, cause that's not.

Speaker 3: 53:17

It's got a hammer on it, so I asked him, I was like what is that in your pants? Cause that's just who I am. And before he got in my car he was just like oh, this man, he's like it's just a clip for a gun. That's way worse. Fucking. I'd rather you have just been packing. And then I asked him.

Speaker 3: 53:36

I was like you don't have the gun though, right? He said of course not. And then proceeded to get on the front seat Like we were fucking friends. So now I'm driving this assassin to his location and I don't know where he's going. But I was terrified. Just offer it, and during the ride he just decides he's going to pull out the whole gun from his waistband, pulls out the entire gun and then my front seat. He's like you mind if I load this in here? I was like I don't know, man, this is your car now Fire off a couple shots. I'm scared. You guys have been so scared. You were gay, yeah. I looked at the gun. I was like oh, it's shiny. I didn't even know what to say. I tried to diffuse it immediately too. I was like you're so big and strong. I grabbed his shoulder. I was like you don't even need a gun, dude.

Speaker 2: 54:24

Oh my gosh, wasn't that funny. Whether he made it up or not, that was such a good bit. Someone commented on the video like, oh, you are now, or he is now a. What was? Some of you know how you like the videos that talk about passenger princesses. Well, like you drive at the husband and like, yeah, now that that guy is a passenger princess, where do you want to go, sir, I'll take whatever you want.

Speaker 4: 54:46

That's scary shit.

Speaker 2: 54:49

And then this last one oh my gosh, this is. This is what we all want to say to our passengers when they're assholes. So we'll watch that and then wrap it up. Not me, I don't talk that way. Well, I know you five star everybody. We'll probably have to play it twice because it's only 15 seconds. You might miss it.

Speaker 3: 55:04

Hey, why are you kicking me out? Hey, how are you all doing? Do I need a reason to kick you out of the vehicle?

Speaker 4: 55:10

Yes, because I think I need a reason to kick you out of the vehicle, but I was paying for a trip.

Speaker 3: 55:14

Why are you kicking me out? I pay for the trip. I dislike you as a person.

Speaker 2: 55:20

So if you didn't hear that, I'll play it again.

Speaker 3: 55:22

Hey, why are you kicking me out? Hey, how are you all doing? Do I need a reason to kick you out of the vehicle?

Speaker 4: 55:28

Yes, because I think I need a reason to kick you out of the vehicle, but I was paying for a trip.

Speaker 3: 55:32

Why are you kicking me out? I pay for the trip. I dislike you as a person.

Speaker 2: 55:37

At the end he says I dislike you as a person. Like that's like when your parents say I'm really disappointed in you. Like he didn't say fuck off, I hate you.

Speaker 1: 55:46

He's like I dislike you as a person, but that guy shouldn't be driving for Uber or Lyft. Why? Because it doesn't matter who they are as a person.

Speaker 2: 55:56

Well, my, my guess is, he was terrible.

Speaker 1: 55:59

You know what?

Speaker 4: 55:59

I mean, he's not he, I.

Speaker 2: 56:02

If someone pukes in my car, I'm going to say I dislike you as a person. It applies to everything. It doesn't have to be specifically like, but she was drunk. Who is drunk? The?

Speaker 1: 56:14

person who puked in your car.

Speaker 2: 56:16

Well, I know that, but I mean, my point is that just applies to everything. You know. When you're late I say I dislike you as a person, just kidding.

Speaker 2: 56:27

Anyways well we will be on Patreon at 9 10 and you can join us there. Go to patreoncom slash the gig. You can podcast. You get extra podcasts, sometimes two or three extras. You get pre show banner. You get ad free at the $10 level a whole bunch of shit. So hope on this shit. So go to patreoncom slash the gig. You can podcast. Next week Wednesday. I have no idea what we're doing for the B side.

Speaker 2: 56:51

I have figured out, I might have paid. So I think we're going to have to pivot, as they say in the biz now, and we might have to do multiple creators in a row or multiple workers, because we'll figure it out.

Speaker 4: 57:04

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 57:04

I think I might have a creator on next week.

Speaker 1: 57:06

Okay.

Speaker 2: 57:07

Who's awesome. I heard another one from Steve. Steve, you better not fuck me like you did with Jeff. I like Jeff, but I was not expecting the heat from Jeff. Yes, we're wanted to stop the interview at like 12 minutes and we went 43. He's like wrap it up, wrap it up. I'm like no, no, no, it's too early. I like it, he goes, I like it. I did. I literally told him it's fine, let's go.

Speaker 1: 57:30

It's fine.

Speaker 2: 57:31

But anyways, every Wednesday 8pm Eastern in this audio podcast comes out Monday and sometimes sometimes Monday it's summertime. It usually comes out at 6am but sometimes it's in the afternoon. There you go so anyways, we'll see you on Patreon. And uh, what did you?

Speaker 1: 57:53

don't put up with anyone's cow feces and we will see you on the road. What it's bullshit Cow feces.

Speaker 2: 58:00

I didn't even notice that you should do that purpose to fuck with me.

Speaker 1: 58:05

Good night, Good night everybody.

Speaker 2: 58:10

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Speaker 4: 59:25

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