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Ep #158 Lyft kills the surge, renting a Uhaul for uber and a dirty sock in a food bag.
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Have you ever wondered what goes on behind the scenes of the gig economy? Fasten your seatbelts, as we take you on a journey through the intricate world of ride-sharing, exploring its joys, pitfalls, and surprising realities. We kick it off by sharing how U-Hauls are a poor choice for ride-sharing and offer rich insights into what drivers think of us as riders.
Switching gears, we delve into the practical and complex world of Uber. We guide you through selecting the best ride options to steering through a bustling weekend. We also narrate a chilling tale of a 73-year-old retired nurse who was caught in the crossfire of a car theft while driving for Uber, underscoring the importance of safety and security.
We conclude our journey with a cautionary tale about the escalating scams targeting popular ride-sharing apps like Lyft, Uber, and Instacart. We arm you with essential tips to stay safe and avoid being hoodwinked by ruthless scammers. But it's not all doom and gloom! We lighten the mood by recommending a hilarious parody of Lord of the Rings, discussing the importance of tipping delivery drivers, and gushing over Jack Black's brilliant parody of the fellowship of the ring.
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Good evening everybody. How are you, everybody's doing? Well, it's loud. What's that? My ears, you can't hear it. I didn't change the thing. Oh wow, it's so loud. Can anybody hear it? Because I can't hear myself almost.
Speaker 1Really. Yeah, it's crazy loud.
Speaker 2Well, it starts out loud, but is it going not so loud?
Speaker 3Is it still?
Speaker 2loud. Yeah, still going, still loud. That's what it does. Well, anyways, tonight we are going to be talking about a lot of cool things. We are going to be talking about using U-Hauls to do a ride sharing, which we all know is a bad idea. We are going to be talking about a there's a super long ride that's pretty in-stream. We're going to talk about it later in this show and we're going to talk about how we find out what the drivers think of us as riders. Yeah, that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 3You know what they want to find out. They want to make sure you're talking the mic properly.
Speaker 2Am I not talking the mic? Yeah, you're talking like that. Good job.
Speaker 3Good try. Anyways, I'm sorry the loudness. It's not any louder than it always, is it?
Speaker 2just startled you. I will point out that you are lucky Because just like two minutes ago, I had the line up for episode 152 up. I realized, fuck, this isn't right. So, anyways, how is everybody doing tonight? It's going to be a great show tonight. Feel it, the energy is there.
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Speaker 2There you go. If you haven't yet listened to last week's episode, the B side, you need to go do that, because that was exciting shit. Oh my word, that was really cool. We were talking to Pedro. Pedro, he is the guy. I can't say his name. Pedro is the guy. Okay, he is just the guy to know about everything in the economy and everything DoorDash. So that was pretty cool.
Speaker 3Mark did yesterday's drop of F bomb.
Speaker 2He may have, I don't know, and an S bomb too.
Speaker 3Mark, I gotta say we just were talking about you on the pre-show. I'm like I haven't seen Mark in like two months, like he doesn't love us anymore.
Speaker 2And then you showed up Mark loves us. It's kind of funny.
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Speaker 3No, they actually get their own RSS feed. They can take that and put it in their player and it downloads a special episode right from them. They don't even have to go to Patreon. Well, initially you have to go to Patreon, but if you want to give that to me.
Speaker 2I have to listen to this with the ads all the time and you didn't give me the special ads. You don't listen to the episodes after it I do listen to the episodes. You do not. I do because I wanna better myself. You know I'm here to listen to myself and I want to be better.
Speaker 3I don't give a shit, Ah, Anyways, Telegram group that's where we connect with other rideshare or gig workers around the country. Go ahead and join. That link is in the description. Love to have you. Did we get somebody new? We did.
Speaker 2Joe, Joe just joined. Joe who, oh no, no, sorry, I was talking to my Patreon. I'm sorry, no we joined.
Speaker 3Who did we get? Let me, I wanna give them a shout out real quick. Let's see, he talked quickly and then stopped talking cause people probably Chasen, I believe his name is. So there's a lot of people like that Just Lurk, which is totally fine.
Speaker 2Lurken is appreciated.
Speaker 3Yep. Yeah, there's a lot of people that Just Lurk which is okay.
Speaker 2What kind of drivers do you think are introverts?
Speaker 3I would say more than 50%. Right, I would think so, cause it's kind of introverted job.
Speaker 1I mean even Uber.
Transportation Options and Meeting Janet
Speaker 3You would think you'd have to talk, but you don't have to. Oh no, I mean you can say hello and just be quiet the whole time.
Speaker 2Sit the fuck down and be quiet.
Speaker 3So stories from the road.
Speaker 2I have an exciting announcement Jesper has big news. I have big news as of this morning. Actually, before this morning I had zero news because I haven't been on the road, but as of this morning I am again active on YouTube. No, on YouTube, on Uber. I am again active on Uber, and unfortunately I can't even drive this weekend, and it's even like one of the best weekends of the year to drive, because what is it, chasen?
Speaker 3I almost said up people, it's breakaway.
Speaker 2It's breakaway, that is right and it is a really for people in Grand Rapids that is a big show.
Speaker 3It's like EDM right.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's like a mini EDM festival and the weather seems to be pretty good.
Speaker 2I bet it's going to be a strong weekend for people who Are heading to that. Yeah, who's driving for that weekend? Yeah.
Speaker 3I'm planning on driving Friday, not Saturday, though.
Speaker 2I'm heading to the UP, so I'm not doing anything. I gotta take my kid to college, okay.
Speaker 3Well, that's exciting, no it is.
Speaker 1That's a long drive.
Speaker 3How long of a drive is that?
Speaker 2It's nine hours.
Speaker 1I'm sorry. I'm sorry, some mics come.
Speaker 2I've been drinking. Oberon not a sponsor yet.
Speaker 3Just passionate. I have a show that they say, not a sponsor just passionate.
Speaker 2But we always say not yet.
Speaker 3That'd be amazing.
Speaker 2So, anyways, now we're heading to Houghton, michigan, michigan Tech, and it's about nine hours away. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3Well, I'm glad you're back on Uber. That's exciting. You can send Lyft to the curb Now. You have more options. You have comfort Excel. You can filter all that stuff.
Speaker 2I must admit, though, Lyft hasn't been bad to me. No.
Speaker 1No, it hasn't.
Speaker 2But again, I count that one trip to Chicago as well. But we are having one story later today talking about how Lyft may actually once again suck for me, so we have to see that one. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 3I do have no news. I can't. I don't write anything down. I'm trying to think I've done some Amazon routes. This week's been kind of just taking care of stuff before work starts Next week, just kind of trying to wrap some loose ends up. Spend some extra time with the kids, because it's the last week Went to a movie, just some odd-ned stuff doctor's appointments for the kids.
Speaker 1Like shit like that.
Speaker 3But yeah, I definitely don't have any stories, although one might pop up after doing news and stuff. Sometimes it does pop up.
Speaker 2Do you know? There's one more exciting thing. What's that? It's about almost a month till we'll be meeting Janet.
Speaker 3I know we have planned absolutely positively nothing.
Speaker 2But that's okay. We usually do it like a week before yeah.
Speaker 3There was a time back in the day where Jesper got obsessed with Don't even go there, okay, he got obsessed with planning this picnic. And I'm not kidding you guys. He ordered enough food for 100 people.
Speaker 2No, for 60 people? 60, okay, yeah, maybe we had a lot of food left.
Speaker 3We had a lot of food. And then we I was dreaming.
Speaker 1Yeah, and then?
Speaker 3we dialed it in and we're back to reality, and so if we get 20 people, I will be happy.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 3Yeah, and I think we will, with Janet coming, she's the big pole?
Speaker 2anyways, I think so, not us. It's just exciting that we'll be visiting, and right now she's on her trip number one, which is pretty cool, and when she's done with that, she's gonna go on her trip two.
Speaker 3The States, the States. We should do a live podcast. I think that would be super cool.
Speaker 2You don't wanna bring the equipment? No, I gotta figure out.
Speaker 3Well, Steve got me wireless mics.
Speaker 2Can we just use your mic, your car now, and now it's all electric.
Speaker 3I mean, I just need to get an inverter. That's what I, you can I have an inverter yeah, just plug it in. We can run. Power it off that. Plug it in, plug it in. But Steve got me some wireless mics and we could just use that and stream it from the phone.
Speaker 2There you go Live podcast record it.
Speaker 3All right gig economy in the news, so this was kind of fun. First one yes sir, yes, yes sir. Yes sir, I've had one and a quarter beers when he first posted.
Speaker 3I'm like this is stupid. Like what are we even talking about? But how to see if your Uber drivers hated you or loved you? And I have looked in the past at my rating and it hasn't changed much. But basically I'm gonna give you the steps to do it. So, as you're listening to this, I'm gonna try to do it slow because I want you all to do it. I wanna see everyone's ride.
Speaker 2But I already did it.
Speaker 3No, but I mean people that are listening. So it's super easy. You go to your app, open the Uber app on your phone, Got that Choose account at the bottom. Now it sounds like I'm being stupid when I'm telling you this. It's seven steps to find this shit.
Uber Ride Safety Concerns, Car Theft
Speaker 3You ain't not finding it easily, so open your app choose account on the bottom right, Select settings, tap privacy, Choose privacy center, select C, summary and then click now, or now click view my ratings. That is the steps to get the breakdown from five to one stars. So this guy had a 4.8 on the website and he had six one stars. Okay, so we went in our own accounts and did that. Let me get back to the stream yard and I will put Yespers up first. This is his rating, of course 33 five stars.
Speaker 2Perfect. I would like to point out that about the 10 of the last ones are all Mexican drivers.
Speaker 3Well, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2No, I don't.
Speaker 3Well they just couldn't understand you. And then what's cool is they actually give you some stats too. So Yesper has been with the app for 2,764 days. Yup, 39 trips you've taken. You've chosen comfort for six out of the last 10 rides.
Speaker 2And there's a story behind that. There's a story behind that because we were four people in Mexico, right? And I must tell you that an Excel car in Mexico is small. Okay, it is not big at all. You mean an X, no, an Excel.
Speaker 3Oh, an Excel An.
Speaker 2Excel is not very big at all. It's like a station wagon here. Does it have third row, though it does but it's like cramped, oh, okay. It's still cramped. So what I found was in most cases the Excel and the comfort was the same car, Most of them in Mexico. So we just didn't do in comfort. We were four people, we always you know, I'm not a small guy.
Speaker 2So, I like to have a little bit of room, so I like to do Excel. But then I finally, I'm trying to figure out that you know we are only four in comfort and that's the same time. Why would I pay for Excel?
Speaker 3And you ordered Uber Eats three times in your life. Yes, okay.
Speaker 2And I bet one of them at least, is because of my kids Cause I don't do it.
Speaker 3All right, let's go to Jason's Oops. My rating is a 4.88. I've had one star. Who one starred me.
Speaker 2It was probably me, I don't know.
Speaker 3No, it's probably that guy in in. He may have figured out, remember. I don't know if I told the story when I was in Florida. He was doing like 8590 down the highway. Oh yeah, taking us to the airport and I was just like bro, I don't mind a little speed in, but like, come on, like five over is where it should be right but so yeah, I have a 4.88, my stats. I've 2882 days, so a little bit longer than you. I've done 44 trips Uber.
Speaker 2I'm more trips than me.
Speaker 3Uber X 10 out of the last 10, and I've, and I've ordered each Uber eats 10 times.
Speaker 2So I want to point out that two of those 45 rides are with me. Did we do it on the app?
Speaker 3Oh yeah, we're there, yeah nice, I feel like no, I tip it or two I am. I got a big tip as well. Um that also, I did take a lift a lot in. Florida and stuff, so I took like a lift. I took a lift of locks when I was in Florida because I couldn't get anything, or maybe it was when I was at the podcast.
Speaker 2I don't think I have a lift rider account.
Speaker 3You know, I don't know my stats for that, but I think it was kind of fun. So I'd like to see if you guys do that and See what your rider rate if it's work, because my driver range of 4.97, my rider ratings of 4.88. So right?
Speaker 2well, you know, so everybody does it. Do it right now and post your stats to the cheese the stream.
Speaker 3Yes, I don't think you can drink beer anymore when you're streaming.
Speaker 2I can't talk. Post your stats.
Speaker 3All right, yes, sir, I'm just so excited. Of your next article, number two.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, cuz I wrote, I switched it actually. Oh, you did yeah, oh, so basically, first I had chosen an article that we didn't mean much, I guess A guy who was waiting for an Uber got robbed. I really had nothing, very little to do.
Speaker 3Well, I thought we were just gonna talk about safety, which is totally fine.
Speaker 2We can talk about safety too, absolutely. But I did find another story that was a little bit more relevant, talking about a retired Lansing nurse that had her car stolen while she was driving for over, and of course that is. That's a sad thing 73 year old retired nurse, it's still in shock after her car was stolen while driving for Uber. Basically see, the story doesn't actually say whether she did night trips a lot or not, but she did him and she knows that night trips usually pay more than than day trips. So she says she took this trip because it was a night trip. She was gonna get paid more. Yeah, she gets out to go to sports pick up a girl. She gets out there and she's like well, none of you guys are a girl, is the girl I'm picking up because those three boys out there waiting for her.
Speaker 2Yeah and, and they say, it's my sister.
Speaker 2Yeah, which happens all the time, absolutely. So they use that to get into the car. And the moment they get into the car, like five minutes after they basically Well, they get to the destination, which is that, which is a it's a trailer park, and then they kind of force out of the car, on the car, they steal her car, still her phone, and they say if you're not, not gonna give me the code to your phone, I'm gonna see, I'm gonna shoot you. And so they, you know, they give it to her. But the fun thing, what part is? Obviously she's traumatized. There's nothing fun about but about that. But the fun thing is that the, the robbers are idiots. So they went right back to where they were and they didn't really realize how to turn off. Find my phone on it on Android, because the police use that to find them and within 15 minutes, yeah, the money that.
Speaker 3Adam under arrest. Yeah, why do people steal phones? Anyways, like Track. I noticed on now on my phone when I turn it off, it says your phone can still be tracked when I power it off. Oh, absolutely so. It's like why even steal a phone?
Speaker 2they're gonna track your ass down and the cool thing is to add it. I learned this with with Android. Even if the audio is just down, I can send a signal on the website and it'll play a song on the computer.
Speaker 3On the phone, even though it's a ring it'll ring, even though it's off. So it is overrides the yep Wow.
Speaker 2So so you know, if I need to get a hold of my daughter or whatever, and her ringer is off, I can. I Can play, I can send a signal and it will play. It'll ring. That's pretty nice. It is possible, but obviously the sad part is they obviously made damage to the car, yeah, and so she's gonna be out. She's out money right now, she's out a ways of making money, she's borrowing money from her family and she's gonna seize up against the the pretty high deductible and Uber.
Speaker 3Yeah, I think the biggest nightmare with all this stuff, like getting in an accident or getting in the car stolen is like who's gonna step up and take care of it? Is it gonna be over? Is it gonna be your primary insurance? Like I'm terrified of getting into an accident. In fact, someone got an accident right behind me and I heard the hit and it scared the shit. I mean I'm just like God that could. I was like one second later or earlier. I would have been me.
Speaker 2Now the story doesn't say anything as to whether or not she had a rider.
Speaker 3I like had an individual.
Speaker 2You know, uh right, share insurance, because technically, if you have one of those, then that'll pick up the deductible.
Speaker 3Yeah, everything will be covered so. But it just sounds like it's gonna be, and what I've read a nightmare dealing with uber. Like it's already hard enough, like I mean look at the look at the um background check thing, like it's just, it's so hard.
Speaker 2You already took me two and a half months, I mean.
Speaker 3Yeah, they should give you a bonus year Of not having to run your background check, like because you know they're gonna do it in the fall
Speaker 2or something. I'm not gonna do that, I know, but that's how it is. Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 3I'm just afraid about the insurance If I ever get into a crash with like amazon flex or whatever.
Safety Concerns in Certain Delivery Area
Speaker 2But it did it bring up to one good point, though, and and and. So it doesn't say exactly how late it was, but it was definitely late. There's the areas in gonna. I will not go to pick up people after two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3I just go.
Speaker 2I don't go there.
Speaker 3Well, it's not even. It's not even two o'clock, I mean once the light goes down, for whatever reason you know yeah shit goes down, true, typically, no, I mean.
Speaker 2You kind of wish you're not out of midnight. Anyway, it's true.
Speaker 1I was wondering where you were going with that.
Speaker 3Cinderella. No, I mean I, I can't say that I don't Not going in area, but like I feel like once it after nine or ten, like I'm more focusing downtown anyways, so it's more drop-offs from downtown. It's not really picking people up, but I definitely end up dropping people off in the hood like coming from work or whatever, and I'm fine. I think in the day I don't I have, I'm very comfortable with it.
Speaker 2I don't mind dropping people off in the hood, yeah. I just don't want to pick them up again.
Speaker 3Well, I mean, I mean, yeah, you do have more wait time when you're picking them up. I guess dropping them off isn't as bad, but I mean, it all could happen at any time. Honestly what I hate is the beggars on Wealthy and Division. I mean, they're walking in the street, they're knocking on the windows like they're aggressive, and that's.
Speaker 3I hate that more than anything. They're probably harmless, but it's like jeez bro, like right, get off the street. I'm totally fine if you want to do it on the corner, like it doesn't bother me at all, but but now my windows are so blacked out. I went way too dark on my window today. Yes, sir, it is way too dark. I'm having a hard time driving at night. What that's how dark it is.
Speaker 2But not, I mean just I. Windows are not the front right.
Speaker 3Well, no, not the windshield, but I'm just saying, but, like no one thinks, when you're making a turn you use that left driver window as you're making a turn onto a street, if there was a car there or something, I don't know. I'm trying not to drive at night until I get used to it, but shit's dark. You ain't gonna see nothing in there.
Speaker 2No, that's true, Mike, I don't. I don't have any problems picking up in Garfield Park, that's oh.
Speaker 3Garfield Park.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 3So yeah, there's. It's more like I would say, uh, south of south of wealthy, between, like Kalamazoo and division, that there's a there's a block and then in between a hole and Probably a wealthy and hole.
Speaker 2And what's the next one down Burton?
Speaker 3Uh, yeah, and the 20th street, yeah Well, that kind of whole stretch.
Speaker 2What you get that after.
Speaker 3I'm actually okay after Burton in some areas between Burton and 28th street, but yeah, I mean, I've never had anything happen, so I'm not mean you, but I mean, you just got to keep your head on a swivel.
Speaker 2So, and you've heard I mean you heard about the shootings on on division and hall street. Right, I did what's it called that chicken fried chicken place.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's all I don't remember. It's new york fried chicken.
Speaker 2No, no, no, I'm talking about the other one, the chicken coop.
Speaker 3Yeah, that place.
Speaker 2There's always shootings, three or four times a year.
Speaker 3There's shootings over that, miss Tracy's on Martin Luther King too. Yeah, yeah, that liquor store right there.
Speaker 2But my Luther King. Isn't that what used to be?
Speaker 3that's Franklin Frank. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's right yeah.
Speaker 3All right, moving on. Moving on kind of a another Safety issue. Delivery agent cues have tempted rape and murder, door-to-ash to face the scrutiny. Now this is a new deli and that's india right. Yes, so clearly there's door-to-ash in india Did not know that I thought I thought door-to-ash was just like lift, just in the state.
Speaker 3Okay, um, basically, she placed an order with door-to-ash. The guy showed up, delivered the food Uh, just fine. Other four days later he went back to the house under the pretext of inquiring about a neighbor, but persisted later as Chloe to open the door, setting the stage for a terrifying counter calling a priest record. Subsequent lawsuit. The situation escalated rapidly. Young enter Chloe's residence, allegedly Attempted to carry out severe harm. Struggle ensued and resulting in Chloe suffering physical injuries, including a broken nose, fingerbikes and marks on her neck. She immediately ported to the police, although her attempt to report the incident to door-to-ash Born no fruit, as the company allegedly failed to take any action. During the police investigation, the attackers criminal history came to light, revealing prior convictions for aggravated assault and a hit and run. 2016, young was hired by door-to-ash. Following is a release from prison. Consequently, chloe and initiated civil lawsuit against door-to-ash for negligence. Well, companies like door-to-ash often utilize technology, including a I, to assess the sustainability of the their workers.
Speaker 1Sustainability- suitability of their workers.
Speaker 3This incident raises questions about the effectiveness of such system. Door-to-ash typically partners with checker. We love checker, a background company to scrutinize the backgrounds of their employees, so this is very ignorant of me. I don't know India's system of like.
Speaker 3Laws, how strict they are, if they have a full police force, if they have a crime system like we do. Like when I Hired in the school I got finger-printed like I don't know if they have that. So to me, I always, I always think of India and, again, don't take any offense to this as more of a third world country, and I guess I'm off a little bit on that, maybe because if they have door-dash there, clearly there's some money.
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(Cont.) Safety Concerns in Certain Delivery Area
Speaker 2Well, there's definitely money, yeah, I mean, and there's obviously metro areas in any, even the third country, third world country, yeah. So my thought behind this was why not utilize, and I get it right, but why not utilize like, but you have here is the ability to say Please leave it at the door, right right, yeah, I mean, if it's obviously a problem if you're a single woman.
Speaker 3I mean you can't blame the woman, because that's kind of victim.
Speaker 2I'm not blaming the woman right now she is the victim, but what was happened was wrong, absolutely, I'm thinking. I'm thinking what could I mean? Because this can happen anywhere? Yeah right, it can happen, you know well, the fault goes on door-dash.
Speaker 3The guy had priors.
Speaker 2Well, sure.
Speaker 3Yeah, and in recent priors but it doesn't matter though.
Speaker 2People who doesn't have priors can do it.
Speaker 3Yeah, for sure, but. But I guess my point of the whole conversation is why, how, what kind of scrutiny is put under the background checks in in New Delhi? I guess what I'm saying like is it easily caught the priors? Clearly not, because they said they ran a Background check. I just wonder if everything runs a little loose over there compared to it here.
Speaker 2I'm sure it does. Or I mean, who knows, maybe it's not even his phone, maybe he's to, and maybe it's an account that he bought. Yeah, that happens over here. I mean, there's so many ways of getting around those systems I would. I mean, I guess my Focus I was trying to take on that was how do you protect yourself as a user of that system?
Speaker 3I mean in your, in your comment about no contact. I mean, I would always do that especially as a woman. Yeah, I watched a tiktok today speaking of that, and women have it Rough they do.
Speaker 1This guy was like idiots.
Speaker 3Yeah Well, this guy was camping and he sent his exact coordinates out to the internet to see if anybody would camp with them. It was a stitch and she's like oh that's so funny, you must be nice, not being a, you know, being a man in a man's world, because like a woman would never do that, because you have any creepers, would show up at that location. But I mean in general. I think women should be try to be extra safe on those apps.
Speaker 2What does it?
Speaker 3because I'm oh sorry, so you can show a video and it stitch it together. You show like a portion of it and then, it, and then it jumps to you talking about it. Oh yeah, so you take somebody's video and Seeing those people that call stitch.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm glad you asked, though Some people might not know what a stick.
Speaker 3No, that's good. Okay, so we talked about that. Door dash, oh, this, I can't wait to talk about this. Door dash staples deal highlights potential of non-food vertical to drive fast delivery revenue and there you go.
Speaker 2So this is pretty cool now, with the back to school season coming up, door dash and staples are working together, so now you can actually have your back to school tools. I guess pencil and paper, whatever deliver within the hour. Deliver within the hour, and, and and they're doing that to to catch them some fast revenue. I just I mean who?
Speaker 3the fuck's gonna do that? First of all, who is gonna?
Speaker 2order a pencil on door dash. First of all, pay 48.
Speaker 3I thought staple was going out of business.
Speaker 2Well, they're probably trying to.
Speaker 3Well, that's what I'm saying, like this is a dying business. Like if I need pencils and erasers and I'm not gonna buy them in the store, I'm gonna go to Amazoncom. I like, why would I go to?
Speaker 2deliver tomorrow.
Speaker 3Yeah, for for free not for free, but I mean for a hundred and forty dollars a year.
Speaker 2I get everything delivered by any way, so it's free. I know I think anybody has, so that's it anyway. So the story goes. It's been a tough year for the competitive, ultra fast grocery delivery market, with more and more high-profile Exits, and I'm not gonna read all that right mass layoffs and consolidation moves emerging as industry players try to combat ongoing inflationary pressures.
Speaker 2Last month, the Turkish delivery giant called, get get here, get here whatever. Announced that it was exiting three European markets Italy, portugal, spain to focus on better profitability, and milk run out of Australia shut down After it was unable to raise sufficient capital to keep our reading. Basically, it's tough out there.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I get it. So do it, as is trying to. What? Do it, as, together with tables, is trying to Get some more market share, I guess, or whatever, and so now you can simply buy Pins and paper and all kinds of stuff From do it. Would you do that?
Speaker 3Well, here's the thing. You can get it from Meyer. I know you can get it from what you can get computer paper yeah. Do they have more unique Items there? Yes, if you need this certain pen that you absolutely love, You're probably not gonna be able to get it at Kroger or Meyer or what tell me that you can get that thing on stables?
Speaker 2I can get more unique things that I want on on Amazon. Yeah, but tomorrow.
Speaker 3I know, but my yeah, I don't know why I feel like it's more Staples reach out to them and said please, oh, yeah, we'll give you 75% of the dollar.
Speaker 2I would. I would not be one bit surprised if that's not gonna work at all.
Speaker 3No, I Mean I what is the last time I've been in staples and I think I win it. I Don't even remember. I think it was for a door dash. I think it was Not exclusively back, or maybe it was Instacart. I think it was Instacart.
Speaker 2Okay, but anyways.
Speaker 3I don't remember the last time I win there for personal stuff, like ever who even used? Like we do have a printer in your thank you, ben, and I do use it probably once a week, but I mean it's like right, I don't need to go in there all the time. And anybody that owns a small business if they're buying office supplies they're going to Amazon or Costco in.
Speaker 2Bolt, I swear Amazon hates me. No, not Amazon. The Amazon delivery drivers hates me really.
Speaker 3Why do you? Why do you just not do it all on the same day? Hey, because you want it right now.
Speaker 2A lot of stuff is for is on we. My wife does a lot of it on the Subscription service yeah, so it comes that way. Yeah, but the other day I was all out of papers. I ordered a box of paper. It's like a 60 pound box.
Speaker 3You know who hates us as we use chewy.
Speaker 2Okay, and it's FedEx yeah and now we got Hamilton.
Speaker 3Who's like? 50 pounds so the bag of dog food is like 50 pound then, so they shipped a 50 pound bag and a 30 pound bag and one box. And oh man that thing just got chucked in the like, I feel bad, like I Hate you. Well, here's the thing, though they hate it, but like they have an exclusive contract, oh, I better shut the fuck up, because you get a lot of money from chewy.
Speaker 2I know that's the thing right, but we I mean every time we get dog food is a 40 pound bag yeah.
Speaker 3So, you only put that in the box. You got three dogs right To.
Speaker 2Oh no, I thought you had a third, but no, we had a third one living with us for a little bit, but yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3All right Dora.
Speaker 2He's gone.
Speaker 3The thought this is pretty funny. Felipe, your dasher. Hi, I'm on the way with your order. Thank you for your patience and, if you tipped, thank you in advance you're an amazing person Only if you did that, it's appreciated. Have a good day. So I thought it was funny. Oh number one comment if you didn't tip, fuck off. Second comment if you didn't tip, dying of fire. Thank you, what? Else I don't die in a fire. That should be number one.
Speaker 2Oh my god, oh yeah, that's about it I'm. That is just Die. What say dying of fire of the comet did oh my gosh.
Speaker 3It, I'm, I'm, I'm up on it. It needs to be. I gotta sign in. Fuck that. So that's funny, I don't know, I, I don't mind that. That message have you. Well, you don't order a lot, but I see people put on these long messages of like, oh, thank you, or my son needs diapers or like, I'm just like oh my gosh Crazy.
Speaker 2No, I don't do that.
Speaker 3All right, so I don't even tip.
Speaker 2No, that's not true.
Speaker 3Oh, my gosh tip, you are so rude I.
Speaker 2Tip.
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Beware of Scammers on Ride-Sharing Apps
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Speaker 3Yeah, so if you need an inspection, our MI inspections are my inspections. Link is in To show notes. Jesper, you posted this lifting and I don't know why or care, and they can't read it. I don't even know why we posted it.
Speaker 2Well, I posted it because it was a message that I got.
Speaker 3I got it too, but I didn't read it because I saw you posted it.
Speaker 2Anyways, it's just because I mean I've been, you know, stuck on the lift app for the next like two months, yeah, anyways. So lift have been apparently seeing an increase in People trying to scam and so they send out an email, basically that so I just can wanted to bring their attention to that and Making sure that all our listeners obviously know all the ways that that scammers are trying to get get access to your account or get into your bank and so forth. So Lift, again, same as the doober, stayed here. The lift will never contact you and ask you to call back a specific number. Love lift will only use the click to call link found in lips help center and lift will never ask you for your login Information, driver's license number or social security number via phone or text message. We meant me be wary of that. Yeah, it will never happen. If you ask for any of that, it is a scam. Do not go there, you know. Do not say any of that stuff. It is simply not true.
Speaker 3The ones I've seen online for lift is like oh, you have a VIP that you're picking up. I think that's a very common one for lift. I don't see that much one for uber. I see it on reddit. People posting it all the time.
Speaker 2Yeah so I don't know and and they want to get a hold of you before because they have some special things they need to tell you about.
Speaker 3The VIP right, and so you have to call them, and then they ask for your account information.
Speaker 2And yeah, it's a scam, it's a fraud. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3It's shocking in 2023 that people still fall for this shit. I mean, sometimes it can be convincing and I think maybe people are desperate for money at times and they're like if. I get $150 for this, like that's gonna.
Speaker 2That's gonna make my because that's part of the VIP right. They'll say you know, You'll get an extra hundred dollars for this drive.
Speaker 3Yeah but you need to call us here and before you get there.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, complete scam, so make sure you Just pay attention pay attention and do not give anybody I mean literally guys people might have your login information for like 30 seconds and they will already have changed your bank account and drained your account.
Speaker 3See, I like that. I don't know if it's Uber or Lyft, but they make you wait 24 hours to withdraw money now. So, like I don't know how these scammers are doing it, like you, still, if you change the bank account information, you have to wait 24 hours to cash out. So it gives you plenty of time. If someone did that and you figured it out, that you can call Lyft and be like, hey, this isn't right, but clearly it still must be profitable somewhere. Maybe not all, maybe Instacart doesn't do that, but I know Lyft and Uber for sure. You have to wait 24 hours after you change bank information.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3I mean true, or people are just so dumb that they just don't realize what happened and then after 24 hours they can cash out the scammers, Maybe they don't see it, yeah, I don't know. Well, one of 150 didn't show up in my account. After I was quote unquote done with this ride, I'd be driving to Lyft headquarters. Driving to Lyft headquarters.
Speaker 2All right.
Tipping and Delivery Driver Etiquette
Speaker 3Nope, that's the wrong one. This is from DoorDash, of course. Reddit that's where I live half my life Found a dirty sock in my food and DoorDash will do nothing about it. I ordered my normal order from Pete's, a large bar, die, cold brew, a slice of pumpkin bread and a slice of banana bread. I work in an industrial park. My office is on the front group of the warehouse. Blah, blah, blah. Instructions I have on my account say we are on the front of the building. We've why this is minutia. Oh, I don't have the whole thing.
Speaker 2I know cause it all got. And I said and I said it's been deleted, so that I didn't know what you wanted to do about it. I thought you had the rest of the story.
Speaker 3No, did you pull this picture?
Speaker 2No, you did.
Speaker 3Oh, I did. Yeah, oh sugar jets. Anyways so it looks like he got a fucking sock in his bag. I thought that was in the beginning part of it. I didn't really read it cause I was like, oh, that's okay.
Speaker 1I thought you pulled it.
Speaker 3One of the comments says free sock, fuck it. And then someone said, literally fuck it. Maybe open to the market for a new you know what sock? I'm not gonna say that word.
Speaker 2Well, a lot of the comments also went by the whole dopey as a free elf kind of thing, yeah, but I didn't know if anyone would get that. I know that's.
Speaker 3Lord of the Rings, right, no, oh, no, that's. I screwed this up with my wife the other day too. She wanted to stab me in the neck. It's Harry, harry Potter. Who were we talking?
Speaker 1to. I'm like no, it's.
Speaker 3Lord of the Rings, and she glared at me and like you are a fucking idiot. She didn't say I can't remember where we were, but she basically said get out of here, you dumb ass, wannabe nerd.
Speaker 2That's basically what she said have you ever seen the Jack Black parody of Lord of the Rings? No, you have to go see it after the show.
Speaker 3See, I never watched Lord of the Rings, so I probably wouldn't get it right.
Speaker 2Oh no, you would get this one because it's so funny.
Speaker 3Is it like teasing it?
Speaker 2So in the end of the first movie they kind of it's the fellowship of the Rings. At the end of the first movie you have this gathering of the fellowship, okay, and Jack Black, he has this ginormous parody about that fellowship.
Speaker 3It's so good. He's so good. He's an incredible. He needs to stop acting and go like his band Tenacious D right.
Speaker 2Tenacious D. Yeah, they're incredible. He's having great success with Tenacious D right now.
Speaker 3You know his guitar player. I read, or I'm sure I saw it TikTok is classically trained from like Julliard or something like that. And the guitar like he is like one of the best guitarists in the world, but he's with Tenacious D. I'm sure he does session work with other bands and stuff like that.
Speaker 2But Can you imagine doing a show in the size of Jack Black? He's not a small dude. No, I mean he must be shredding just crazy after the show.
Speaker 3Yeah, oh, my God.
Speaker 2Even though he's the big guy, he must be in excellent shape.
Speaker 3Well, I've seen some of his TikTok. He's flipping around like a fucking monkey and shit Like it's. It's great.
Speaker 2I actually wouldn't mind seeing Tenacious D oh.
Speaker 3I totally would go. I mean, you might get stories. That would be even fun too. I know, I know.
Speaker 2So the next photo here. I just thought it was a fun photo. Apparently, somebody couldn't even afford to have a window wipers.
Speaker 3Honestly this is genius. I mean, if you were in a pinch, what?
Speaker 2okay, so think about it, but it only works for about five minutes and you have to put the car over and ring yeah and ring it out.
Speaker 1Well, yeah, it probably doesn't. But if you think about, it now in Grand Rapids Very tired.
Speaker 3What store is open 24 hours nowadays in Grand Rapids? Nothing, my ears not.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3If you needed something.
Speaker 2Oh sure.
Speaker 3I mean, you go to your house, you got a sponge, although that's I don't even think that's a sponge, I think that's just a piece of foam. I just yeah, I mean, I actually I posted this, I saw I'm like that's actually not a bad idea, I don't hate, that I don't hate that.
Speaker 2Gotta make it happen anywhere you can. Yeah, respect, I mean you gotta do it, this Tic Tac.
Speaker 3We have another guy that decided that he wanted to lip off to a customer. But did he lip off? Why did I do?
Speaker 2Did he? What's the matter? I closed down my lineup. Oh, you're cute, You're my fucker.
Speaker 1I'm cute, thank you. Thank you Just for future reference. Drivers live off of tips, so if y'all don't tip, we don't make money.
Speaker 3This is how we feed our families. I wanted to read the comments. Oh, I muted it. What do you think of that video, jesper?
Speaker 2before I read the comments my first comment was don't take the fucking order.
Speaker 3Well, he works for Domino's. He's told to go.
Speaker 2Like he it's not.
Speaker 3That was a Domino's worker, so I think he was respectful.
Speaker 2Well, he was, I think he didn't go over the line he didn't cross the line.
Speaker 3No, but remember that one we watched.
Speaker 2But I would never ask for a tip.
Speaker 3I don't think I would either, but maybe he had a bad night and sometimes people just kind of lose their cool. But I mean I think he did it like he just letting them know and who knows A lot of people in the pizza delivery business before GigWort came around, which I was in. I worked for Jets Pizza for like six years because you know I've done the lawn care forever and so I've always done kind of side jobs in the winter, and Jets was one of them.
Speaker 3I loved working for it. In fact, I ate so much of the square pizza I cannot eat it today. It gives me gut rot but my family loves it, but there's a $2.50 delivery fee. A dollar of that went to the driver, but the rest went to the store. So I mean, if the dollar's nothing, no. I mean, if you take 10 deliveries, it's 10 bucks. I mean it gives you a couple of gowns.
Speaker 2You only got a dollar per delivery From the store, so the rest you have to make is a tip. Yep. So, I mean yeah.
Speaker 3So I mean I was at the time making $7.25 an hour. Now it's different If you go, if you're in the store working, you make the minimum wage, whatever is like 10 bucks an hour, but when you leave you drop down to $252 or whatever the server wage is. So it was different. Back then, at least I was making minimum wage plus I got at the dollar. So but the comments are 100% correct tip your delivery drivers. That was number one.
Speaker 2I was glad to see that and you should do that.
Speaker 3Yeah, the number two is the real issue is tipping is now the payroll of workers.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 3Burr.
Speaker 2I do tip, I was joking?
Speaker 3No, I don't want you to. Why are you tipping the Starbucks worker? That makes a livable wage.
Speaker 2So who am I supposed to tip them?
Speaker 3Somebody that uses their car. I know, I know, but my point is the number two comment. The real issue is tipping the payroll workers Like people that work that get regular pay.
Speaker 2No, I get you.
Speaker 3I mean, next time you're gonna go to auto zone they're gonna flip that fuck around. You got 20, 30 or 40% tip on it, like that's. I'm not tipping the auto zone worker, but why do you tip the Starbucks worker?
Speaker 2Because he gave me food.
Speaker 3You stupid fuck.
Speaker 2I don't know. He didn't pee in my cup first before he gave me coffee.
Speaker 3So number three comment how do you not tip a piece of guy? Number four for future reference you decided to work that particular job. Go find a new one that pays better, I mean.
Speaker 2I mean. But we have to be honest, though not everybody has the option of the choice.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2I mean no sure we would love to say that they do, but they don't. No.
Speaker 3No, I typically just I don't get delivery much because I don't want to tip. I mean I will if I do, but typically I pick it up, but I don't know. I think the guy did a okay job. I think he was respectful.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 3I think I mean clearly the lady didn't clap back, so she probably was like ooh.
Speaker 2So when you go pick up Chinese or you pick up pizza, whatever your family do, you tip.
Speaker 3Never Does my wife every fucking time and I yell at her for it and she tells me to fuck off.
Speaker 2My wife. I mean, I tip once a week. Well, my wife doesn't like it either.
Speaker 3Well, the point is is like what's the tip for? Yeah, what is the tip for? And, honestly, you're tipping the entire crew. So, like I, get that if you really enjoy the place and you want him to say in business, I totally get that, but tipping a dollar or $2 isn't gonna change, because they're dividing that up with the 10 or 12 crew members.
Speaker 1More so.
Speaker 3So they're getting 20 cents or whatever. But I mean I just feel like, hey, the pizza place should pay them more money. They're paying them minimum wage plus whatever they could be paying them more Right, but then I mean true, here's the question, I'm gonna blow your mind. My daughter's works at Culver's. She runs the food from Culver's to the car. Should she get a tip? My view she makes more than minimum wage. They hired her more than minimum wage. Well then, no, well, I mean, see, that's my point.
Speaker 2But at that point isn't it also too late, because you're already paid that time.
Speaker 3Well, yeah Well, there's no spot to tip. She does get tips, it's cash on occasion. She's gotten a dollar. She's got a $25 Meyer gift card once. Good, I know, good for her. But my point is is like no you wouldn't.
Speaker 2I mean, you thought it was special.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2I mean not special. That way she's nice. No, yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, I know, but my point is is like when, when are we gonna stop the, just the random tipping?
Speaker 2So I mean let's go to complete it the other way. And then Mike, very few, no tipping. Well, that's not true anymore, because now, because the American way you tip, right, you got to tip. Welcome to America, yeah, welcome, but they all make a livable wage. Yeah, I mean, they all make more than minimal wage to people working at the restaurants and stuff.
Speaker 3I mean, it's a long conversation. We can go on and on about it. But like I would rather donate a dollar to the Children's Miracle Network, which I do every time I go to the gas station, if they ask it on there, I give them a dollar, I do not See you you're Because the restaurant, the gas station takes 85 cents and gives 15 cents to the no, no, they don't, and I don't put it in.
Speaker 3I don't put cash, I do it on the app or on the credit card or debit card, so you stopped by paying 33% of that to the credit card company. I can't believe what is wrong with America? You're tipping a worker that gets a livable wage, but kids are dying in the hospital and you fuck them. Oh, he almost has spittin. Oh, that one got him y'all. Oh, this is the first attitude of-.
Speaker 2I'm not dying in the hospital.
Speaker 3This is the first attitude at Miracle Network.
Speaker 2I don't give a shit. That's not true. I do give it to them, but I don't give it to the gas station.
Speaker 3I have it on record that you do not care about children that are dying in the hospital.
Speaker 2No, no, that's not true. I do care about children, but I don't I'm pulling the tape.
Speaker 3I'm pulling it and I'm sharing it on social media.
Speaker 2You're a fuckhead, you know that. Ha, ha, ha ha.
Speaker 3All right, speaking of fuckheads, Gary Middleton from Middleton Tech.
Speaker 2He's getting out of the hospital.
Speaker 3I'm gonna pull that and send it to him. He'll love it. These are the apps I use. I don't use Dov very much. In fact I need to cancel my subscription. I'm sorry, gary, he doesn't care, because that's the most expensive one, because I can't even fucking get on DoorDash. But I use FlexAlert a lot, which helps you tap the button to refresh your screen so you can try to get routes, and then the blue logo is the Maximo which you can filter. Every single thing Uber, lyft, grubhub, everything.
Speaker 2Everything, everything.
Speaker 3Anything you can imagine that you wanna filter, it's in there.
Speaker 2So check it out.
Speaker 3The link is in the description. Gary Middleton is a nice guy.
Speaker 2Support him, everybody Support him.
Speaker 3He does great work, he does great work and he is the tech support and he will. He responds. I don't know when the fucker sleeps, honestly, because, like every time I send him a message, I'm like hey.
Speaker 2It was just water.
Speaker 1I.
Speaker 3Can't deal with this. He just spilled water. I'm sorry all the audio people, I'm gonna have to rewatch this whole video. Okay, basically from minute 48 on, I gotta pull some stuff.
Speaker 2Oh, he's on my stomach. I mean, it wasn't a trip y'all.
Speaker 3He poured it down.
Speaker 2All right, moving on.
Speaker 3Anyways, he does good work. Yes, yes, yes, that's the basic gist of it.
Speaker 2So I do not remember this tick tock you yet, just complain it is the robots or people are jacking?
Speaker 3Oh, I don't think there's any sound, so we'll try to describe it. We may not play the whole thing.
Speaker 1It's a minute 40 thing, oh, there is.
Speaker 3There is sound. They're tipping the robot over and then just taking the food delivery robots Yep. Yep, it's got an alarm going on.
Speaker 2They don't care, they're just taking the food.
Speaker 3Why is he tipping it over? Oh, he's straightening it out for him.
Uber and Lyft Pricing and Changes
Speaker 2Yeah, oh wait, he got the food. Somebody knock them over. Who is it?
Speaker 1this, austin oh.
Speaker 3Steal your food too. Yep. Austin got robbed.
Speaker 2Austin got robbed.
Speaker 3Oh, that lady was riding in it.
Speaker 2I know that it's just riding it yeah.
Speaker 3Oh, she's riding it like a bull. Oh my god, okay, we get the gist of it.
Speaker 2So that's another problem with the robot delivery right well, how do you prevent that?
Speaker 3You don't. Well, it's just why do? Why do we have to ruin a good thing Like?
Speaker 2why do we? People are idiots.
Speaker 3I mean, I guess it's good for us because, you know, then it's more work for us. But like I Don't even know what to say like it's like I don't know how you prevent it other than like having like like pepper spray and set up when it gets disturbed like that.
Speaker 2It just shoots a pepper spray bomb or something you heard about the, the guy, the Mike rober who did the, the delivery packages that get stolen, no, oh the glitter bomb.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great.
Speaker 2Those are great videos five years of those and because of that they were able to take down a big scammering in India. Oh really.
Speaker 3Just from that he caught five years of that stuff.
Speaker 2Yeah, they were able to do a big scammering. It was incredible. Yeah, I know it was ridiculous next up. So this is pretty cool and I will ask you would you take this ride? So this is a. I mean, I think I Probably figure out how I would do it because holy moly, right, and I don't know if it's true or not, but it is a seven hour ride.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's black SUV hourly Right, so it's not a just like they hourly, though, do you get through?
Speaker 2do you really get Kendra math, $250 an hour back SUV?
Speaker 3I mean it. I don't know, but it's in. Black SUV is the highest you can go. You got uber black and then you got uber black SUV.
Speaker 2That's gonna be the highest price 2,926 thousand 42 cents for seven hours work. I mean well, 14, because you gotta go back.
Speaker 3Yeah, I don't know. I mean, why would you do it that way if you were just going from looks like New York to Pittsburgh? Why wouldn't you just do a regular uber?
Speaker 2Why would you do Someone who doesn't care.
Speaker 3Yeah, some people were saying this was fake that could be fake.
Speaker 2I mean, it probably is fake.
Speaker 3I mean, I mean just for shits and grins. I don't know, it doesn't look Photoshop. It's really good Photoshop if that's what it is. But let's do 2,900 minus seven hours, that's 414 an hour. You said 250.
Speaker 2No no no. Oh well, yeah, so yeah, okay, I, my math was off.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's four hundred and fourteen dollars an hour, for if you would get twenty nine hundred dollars for seven hours.
Speaker 2Yeah. I don't know, it seems a little fishy, but yeah, I need to go get myself a black SUV.
Speaker 3Well, the problem is you ain't gonna do it in GR.
Speaker 2You're gonna go to?
Speaker 3I think Detroit has. I think so. Yeah, pete or Mark commented better mother-of-all services would help. What's he referencing? The robot, probably, maybe me.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 3Man. Oh, jesper. Yes, let's talk about the lift surge which I read the article like a good boy. I prepped every single article is stupid Of course. I mean there's no, there's no details. Basically, the gist of it is what?
Speaker 2Well, the gist of it is that the Uber I guess it's Uber management, or whatever is saying that they want to try and I think Sorry, they're right man. I'm sorry I'm drunk. Lift man, you are not drunk on two Oberon's, I'm kidding. Lift management is trying to kill surge pricing by getting More drivers against. They're having many, many more drivers now. So basically they're saying the whole purpose of Lift. They call it lift prime. What do they call it?
Speaker 2a prime time prime time, yeah, is that when there's more driver, when there's more Passengers needs to ride and there's drivers in the area, it's gonna go prime time just like over. Yeah, but they Very few times. They have to actually have that now because they have many more drivers.
Speaker 3Do you think they're talking about it now? Because Dara just had that article?
Speaker 2Of course, yeah, well, that came out about the $52 ride or whatever in search pricing. But the problem is not the search pricing. No problem is they take too much.
Speaker 3Yeah well, they're charging too much to the customer.
Speaker 2Well, that's the thing. They, yeah, yeah. So I mean these, the drives that are people are talking about isn't necessarily search and prime time drives, right, these are rides where they are taking well over 50%. Yeah yeah, so they got to get their shit together and and figure out a better algorithm for for up front pricing.
Speaker 3Honestly, you know, going back to the driver end of it, I don't mind not having new surge if you have attainable Quests. No I yeah, and like Uber, there's like literally no surge anymore. Right, but I feel like in the summer the Uber quest has not been attainable for me. 50 rides is too tough to do without working like 70 hours, I feel it feels like.
Speaker 2But on the other side, though, I mean I just got it now because I'm gonna move again, right, but what night? They want 70 rides now, right, but for 70 rides I get $315. Oh shit, addition, yeah right, I mean that's me make. If I were to go for that, I would make a grand, easy thousand bucks. Yeah yeah, but I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3I'd be, I'd be interested if you, if you had this weekend open, if you could do that, because I don't have to drive Friday.
Speaker 2I would have to not work Friday and drive Friday.
Speaker 3Oh, you mean like during the day, and so yes, yeah. I think once the college kids come back which should be like within the next week and starts cooling down a little bit.
Speaker 2They have there's.
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Speaker 3This is one of the moving weekends, Okay but they start, I think start classes next week. Yep, I think you'll start seeing it easier to get those quests early on in the summer. If you remember, I was doing them and I was hitting them, I mean doing like 20 hours.
Speaker 2Well, you, I mean I, I have to 50 rides in a weekend.
Speaker 3Yeah, but I tell you, the last month you haven't driven much but other than the awesome weekend with Chicago. But it has been tough to hit those numbers. So I'm not doing them, but so we're almost wrapping up. But I want to get this. You haul one, yes, sir, because we talked about in the title. So I just think this is hilarious, and then we'll do the rest on Patriot.
Speaker 2So there's not much to say about. No, then you can rent a. You, hans, you hold, sit down. I don't like to know what vehicle this, because I don't know cars for 1995 looks like a Dodge Charger actually. Yeah, it does look like a Dodge Charger and the Common goes. Anyone tried to using to rent one of these and use it for rideshare?
Speaker 3yet I mean, technically you could, because you can have advertisement on your car. I mean, I had that one on there, the nightmare one that didn't work out.
Speaker 2But how do? How do you do that with insurance, that's a good question because Uber would live for only let you do if you have, if they have a, you know engagement, the Hertz or whatever.
Speaker 3Well, yeah, they probably. Yeah, all jokes aside, it wouldn't work because you need your name on the insurance if it's your personal car. But it wouldn't be a bad deal. I mean Hertz, I mean I. I did think about renting a Tesla once and it once. I broke down the numbers, it was insane. It was like $300 a month, a week, to rent that Tesla. So I already start 300 in the hole Right, plus I have to charge and I do have solar, but still I would still have to pay some super charging because if I want to go Out and work, I got to get that shit up quick. It just wasn't worth it.
Speaker 3Oh so the you-all thing is kind of funny because yeah, it's a fun comment.
Speaker 2It's not gonna work, so yes for, yes, how you feeling?
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