Ep. #173 A new gig, Coffin confessions, and why older Americans are doing more gig work.

 We swerve into the world of the gig economy, discussing the ups and downs faced by Uber, Lyft, and DoorDash drivers in light of New York's new minimum pay rule. Not only that, but we'll also delve into the rise of retired Americans turning to ride-sharing gigs to pad their pension and stay socially engaged. But, is it all sunshine and rainbows? Tune in to find out. In a surprising twist, we even touch on the mysterious world of the 'coffin confessor' and his unusual gig crashing funerals on behalf of the departed.

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Speaker 1: 0:10

That's what she said. Hi guys, welcome to the gig economy podcast episode 173. Hello with the SBIRD Dina said You're at your says 1749 Maple Row.

Speaker 3: 0:45

No, that's my, I know that's the only one I know by heart.

Speaker 1: 0:50

Thanks guys, so much for.

Speaker 2: 0:52

Tom and Janet and reviews and how to and for tuning in.

Speaker 1: 0:56

Appreciate you guys so much. We got a lot to talk about tonight.

Speaker 2: 1:00

This is going to be my last episode of the year.

Speaker 1: 1:03

You know, yeah, I'm sad about that. Oh, you'll be fine, not really.

Speaker 2: 1:10

So yeah, next, next week, I'm taking off. I'm going to take four days in the sun.

Speaker 1: 1:16

That'll be nice. We're going to have a lot lifting with Larry on. I reached out to a couple other people and Larry said for, he said yes, so we're, we're golden, we're golden.

Speaker 2: 1:26

Gonna say I think I don't think this is the first time he's the last episode of the year.

Speaker 1: 1:31

No, I don't think he is either. One of these days I'm going to take a day off.

Speaker 2: 1:35

There you go there you go, so that is pretty cool. So what are you going to talk about today?

Speaker 1: 1:42

I don't know, I'm looking at the rundown.

Speaker 2: 1:46

That's cool, but while you're doing that, I can talk to you about the website, which is it's not like a new website. Go to gigakonomissiocom. It did change a little bit recently and you can find a lot more news there. But yeah, we are just trying up a new format and please go there and sign up for a newsletter.

Speaker 1: 2:05

Yeah, I will try to get one out this month. I will have some extra time, so sign up for that. And yeah, then when you sign up for that, you get notified when the new episode drops, which if you're already a subscriber, you should know that, because it comes out every Monday, unless I'm tired, and then it might come out Monday afternoon. But I want to thank our Patreon members. Larry Samson, steve, bud, omar, delivery cats Jamie Frank, joe, nate and John Appreciate you guys so much. It's really important to what we do. It actually just makes us feel good too. It's really not all the money, but the money does help pay a lot of the bills and we do appreciate that a lot. Tom's soliciting women.

Speaker 2: 2:45

I'm not sure why but there's no women, the Patreon members, and he's right.

Speaker 1: 2:51

I don't know if he's talking about Patreon members, but anyways, that is true, that is true.

Speaker 2: 3:01

The alooja Just wait for you to do your spot, oh. I love it when Jason puts me on the spot.

Speaker 1: 3:11

You gave me so much shit for not following it and you're over too.

Speaker 2: 3:15

Well, I didn't know you'd put me on the spot again for that one. Anyways, please go to patreoncom for the Gekan podcast and sign up for supporting us. It is super important that you are and, honestly, it helps keep the show on the air. So thank you so much for that, guys. And please, please, please, please, go and sign up for a Patreon. I would love to see a new Patreon tonight. What we do offer free trials seven days. You get a free trial to try everything out.

Speaker 1: 3:43

and then, before your card is charged, and then what? What do they offer? What do we offer? Yes, for those fines.

Speaker 2: 3:50

So you get you get pre show banter. Right, you get pre show banter. And then you get you get to listen to the show without ads. And then the other cool thing you get is, after I've been a $10 supporter which is a unicorn supporter Unicorn ride, I guess, we call him Then you get a piece of merch. You've been there for three months.

Speaker 1: 4:13

Yep, yep, I don't think I own anybody. Usually when Yeser does the ad, I can probably take this off right. Yeah, you can take it off.

Speaker 1: 4:22

Does the ad? I go in there and like, fuck, I owe somebody a t-shirt, but I don't think, whoopsies, I don't think. Why is this comment not coming off? Oh, I'll take it off Sorry. Jesus. Christ, it's only been fucking 17 years that we've been doing this thing and using StreamGuard for half of it, anyways, but it ends up finding out that I owe somebody a t-shirt. But I don't think I do, because I'm looking at the list and, oh, maybe.

Speaker 4: 4:52

Nate.

Speaker 1: 4:53

No, I don't think it's Nate. Anyways, join the Patreon if you want to support us. We appreciate it. The Telegram group that's a group for you where we can chatter to do when you're doing gig work, If you're getting bored on the road.

Speaker 2: 5:06

You get to it? How do you get to Telegram group?

Speaker 1: 5:10

Stop interrupting me. Oh sorry, I'm trying to do my job, Yespyr, and you're making it very difficult.

Speaker 2: 5:18

I mean a special move tonight.

Speaker 1: 5:20

That's fine, but like let oh my God, you're going to see a fucking domestic violence assault remotely on this page. Anyways, that's a place where you can go to connect with other gig workers around the country, around the world. I know if you run Third Shift, which is really nice if you are a Third Shift worker. But to get to that, download the Telegram app and then the link is in our description and you just click on that and you can join. And I recommend muting the chat because sometimes you can get a lot of messages and it can be annoying. So you can be a lurker if you want, but we would encourage you to participate if you want to.

Speaker 1: 5:58

I think Steve sent some listeners over here, some viewers from his show, and I appreciate that Steve.

Speaker 2: 6:03

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much for that Stories from the road.

Speaker 1: 6:06

I have none. So, if you remember, let's reverse back to last week, wednesday. I'm like you know I'm not going to work because Megan and I are going out, but you know she's feeling a little under the weather. Right.

Speaker 1: 6:19

Well, I got sick too, and so, oh no, we. I actually did do gig work. Friday night. I went out and did Amazon Flex and during that route which I shouldn't have took, by the way, because the roads were trash and I ended up trashing my car with dirt roads- yeah. That. Well, that's what Amazon flex is like. You do so rural area, you didn't break it, you just got it, just already trashed it yeah.

Speaker 1: 6:44

Yeah, I didn't break it or anything, no, and so during that I started coughing and then I got a fever, and so yeah we spent our anniversary weekend on the couch, so yeah, it wasn't fun at all.

Speaker 1: 6:59

So that is my story from the road, but I will be going out this weekend. I am still a little under the weather, if I I don't know if you can hear it, but I guess a little bit of a stuffy nose still, and yeah, so that's what's going on. Hmm, what's up? Driven the driven dad. Check this guy's show out on YouTube. He does great content, him and his wife. They both drive Tesla's, so it's it's a really good Video channel. Video channel. What am I fucking? A hundred YouTube channel. Youtube channel.

Speaker 2: 7:30

I actually still have that special. I touched to my YouTube my, my Uber the 10 rides for 110 you do yeah. I actually have until the 11th to do it and I get an extra so they keep extending it. I mean see the 11th. I just didn't look at it. I.

Speaker 1: 7:50

Didn't look, it was always till the 11th. Oh, okay, cuz I. I thought you could only do it on the 29th, that's what I saw first.

Speaker 2: 7:57

but no, it's, it's like a, it's like a one of the yeah, okay, couple weeks for it to finish it, but I won't be able to go out. I just we have too much stuff going on this weekend and Leave Sunday morning, so yeah, oh, that's right you are leaving.

Speaker 1: 8:12

I'll give you that. He says it's on the you reviews and how to. Says it's on the YouTube or it's on the internet. Just go to the internet guys. The internet. We keep clicking the same damn thing.

Speaker 2: 8:24

I didn't click on that, you did it. Oh yeah, I do.

Speaker 1: 8:30

All right, let's go. So this is kind of exciting for this guy.

Speaker 1: 8:37

This isn't really gig related, but it's, you know it kind of applies to me a little bit, but new technology installed beneath Detroit Street can charge electric vehicles as they drive. Now, who would have thought this would have been in Detroit, right? So I was excited. I'm like, oh, it kinds of, it kind of has a video. As I play it, it's literally no one talking and they're just driving around. So, yeah, it's a new technology. Belongs to electron and Israel based developer of wireless charging solutions for electric vehicles. The company has contracts for similar roadways in Israel, sweden, italy, in Germany. And then let's go to Detroit. The pilot initiative in Michigan was announced in 2021 by governor Gretchen Whitmer, which is very cool. She's very into this kind of stuff, which is, which is super cool. So, when a vehicle with a receiver nears the charging Sexments, the segment, the coals beneath the road, transfer electricity through a magnetic field charging the vehicles battery. The coils only activate when a vehicle with a receiver passes over them.

Speaker 2: 9:44

That's cool. That's cool. I saw. This is a couple years ago. I saw, obviously, people are always playing with new types of roads, if you will so somebody had came up with. I Can't see what's a panel, but you could kind of do a lot of them. So it was, it was, it's, it's a call, an octagon no six. What was I call? Not a pen hexagon but a hexagon.

Speaker 2: 10:13

Yeah, so they were hexagonal tiles, but they had they had.

Speaker 2: 10:17

They were all programmable, they had LEDs built into them and there was there were also there were solar panels, so there were strong enough you could drive on them, obviously, but then you could just lay them down, you can connect them, and so the cool thing with them was they could actually code when the lines in the road would be. Oh, wow, if you put, if you put them in, you could actually, you could make, you can make two, you know why to a wide, two lane road if you wanted to, or you could take it down to a three lane road, however you want. You could kind of do that coding because you could dynamically define the lines on the road right away. Wow, and you could, yeah, and you can make them where you know white lines or yellow lines, whatever it is. If you had a whole stretch, there was all those these things. That makes sense. And then, of course, on on in warm areas, it could actually, as I said, it would produce. It would. It would produce Power as well, because there was a solar panels.

Speaker 1: 11:14

Okay, huh, I love that new tech. The one thing the article doesn't say, which is would be important to me how much does it actually charge? Am I getting, like you know, a hares worth energy from it? Because, like that, I don't know, it would have to be a longer distance, although it did say if you were idling, which you wouldn't actually be idling but I guess I don't know the definition of idle.

Speaker 1: 11:36

I guess it's just sitting still, but I'm an idiot. But I'm just saying, like it's not In my head, idling. I just think of a gas car, but it says it would charge it then. But I just was curious on the speed. Obviously I would.

Speaker 2: 11:48

I can Look up what it is, but so my assumption would be, though, that it would have to be on much, much, much longer stretches. Right, because and one of the things you've always said about your car since ever since you got it, was you tend to stay away from highway because it really takes down the battery. So wouldn't that kind of solve this problem? If it would, even if it was just a tickle charge? Uh, whatever it is, as you are driving, let's say you're two to three hours on the road In in vision, envision that truck. Right, if this is a semi truck doing that, and it's, it's able to charge a little bit. I mean, how much further you can, this thing can stay on the road.

Speaker 1: 13:04

I think most people would be happy with brake, even. Right, you know so you drive 60 miles and you don't lose any energy and you get off on your exit and you're like you know, because there's literally no regeneration on the on the highway, you're never using your brakes, you're never slowing down, correct?

Speaker 2: 13:20

So uh, bumble, I think it's. I think it's very interesting as all these new technologies are coming about.

Speaker 1: 13:26

Yeah, I think it's good. Um, oh man, I'm telling you this cold weather. Well, it's not even that cold. I can't imagine if we were in like 10 degree weather. Yep, I'm getting Maybe 160 miles on a charge now and I was getting 220 230 in the summer.

Speaker 2: 13:45

It's interesting you're saying that, because I was actually when you said in last week I was, I was thinking about, uh, in Scandinavia, and so Norway's super cold, right, oh yeah, but but they introduced, they introduced a while back. They introduced special. It's also pretty expensive to drive a vehicle in all of Scandinavia because they have so high taxes on vehicles, and so in Norway they introduced a special tax, the credit if you bought a, if you bought an electric vehicle. So I think, I think I want to say it's like every fourth vehicle in Norway is electric today. Oh wow, yeah, it's like it's pretty, it's a lot of them, okay, but what they found was, um, what they found was is it's actually mostly teslas, because teslas lasts the best on cold.

Speaker 1: 14:39

Yeah, they've. They've mastered keeping that battery warm. That's the issue the battery gets cold.

Speaker 2: 14:45

Oh, so they're actually keeping the battery warm. Yeah, there's a battery warmer on it, ah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1: 14:50

I don't know if it's on a pad or if it's wrapped up or whatever, but that's why they're able to last a lot longer, because it's like it's like already precondition, you don't have to Really worry about it.

Speaker 2: 15:03

Okay.

Speaker 1: 15:03

That's why they say to kind of warm up your electric car before you go while it's plugged in, to kind of precondition the battery a little bit before you head out.

Speaker 2: 15:13

Well, that kind of makes sense. I hey, welcome Francis. It's a pleasure to have you listen to the show.

Speaker 1: 15:18

I had. I saw a picture on facebook where somebody had they had just gotten a storm and he charges outside and I'm like, oh my gosh, like he must get no battery life out of that thing. But we'll see this weekend. I I kind of want to lean to amazon flex, but I it's supposed to be wet this weekend and I'm worried the roads are just going to be trash again.

Speaker 1: 15:38

So I think uh, I think I'm going to stick to ride chair, so we'll see how long it lasts before I have to go to a supercharger. Um.

Speaker 2: 15:46

I'm gonna I'm gonna leave my rideshare vehicle at the airport for four days next week, so we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 1: 15:52

I'll be fine. I've done that before. I know the driven dad, tony. He's in Colorado driving to Tesla, so I'm sure he knows much more about it than I do. But I know I know that is. They keep the battery warm, so that's. That's a big bonus.

Speaker 2: 16:07

But yeah, I know it kind of is so. So this next story we're gonna have here, that's a, that's a, it's a new, interesting, interesting way of doing gig work. Yeah, really liked it. So please pay attention. It's pretty cool what this guy is doing and, I must say, kind of happens and how he got into it.

Speaker 1: 16:27

It's. It's not an app. I'll tell you that right now. It could be. I got shot out. My wife she's one that shared this to for me to play. I thought it was pretty funny, so here we go. Yo what is your job.

Speaker 4: 16:40

Well, I crashed funnels on behalf of the deceased. I'm the coughing confessor and I tell those that were loved how much they were loved, and those my clients love to hate to fuck off. So I want you to start from the start. How did you come across this? Oh, it actually started as a joke. I just told a dying man. I crashed his funeral for him and he took me up on the offer and from that funeral led to others. For instance, the first funeral that I crashed, graham was on his death bed. He was actually at home but he had a best mate. His best mate was coming around and trying to screw his wife and pat Her on the ass and put me his arm around her all the time, and Graham could see this from his bed, but he couldn't do anything because his best mate wouldn't even come down and see him. Or saying no.

Speaker 4: 17:17

And Graham said in that matter you know best made a mind been trying to screw my wife while I'm on my death bed. You go fuck yourself and fuck off from my funeral. And if my brother, his wife and their daughter at this funeral, they can fuck off too because I haven't seen them in 30 years. So what are you now paying their respects? No, I love this.

Speaker 2: 17:37

The coffin confessor.

Speaker 1: 17:40

Would you ever be able to do that? I mean could you just separate yourself and be like alright, I'm, I'm just here to do a job. But then you see people like Devastate. And then what if they come like Attack you because they're mad or something like, hey, I'm paid for by the deceased.

Speaker 2: 17:56

So this is like a dance gram, but instead of for the for the birthday, this is for the funeral. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a great idea.

Speaker 1: 18:05

I I don't know if he's still doing it, but there's got to be something like that. They're singing telegrams, so just do that instead of you know. Oh, I Don't know if I'd be able to do it, but I was sure fuck would love to be there when somebody had got it done that you'd never forget that funeral ever no. No, no, no, no, like you, go to your third cousin's funeral and that happens and you're like I'm so glad I came to this funeral.

Speaker 2: 18:30

I'm so glad I came to this funeral Celebrating life Whoo right.

Speaker 1: 18:36

So, moving on, we don't have a lot of pictures tonight, but here's one of them. It's so this guy is think it's a scammer. I, I think so. So we've all talked about an Uber. We just talked either last week of the week before it's gonna start verifying people a little bit, not allowing weird names, you know, and stuff like that. But this is this happened on. This is the lift app. Let me bring up the reddit thing. So I was like I love reddit because the comments are usually like spot-on.

Speaker 2: 19:08

So those are the fun ones.

Speaker 1: 19:10

So it says why? Why does the lift allow this awkward, quiet ten minute ride? And it it's Andy, is his name, okay, nothing wrong with that as audio listeners. And then his little image icon or whatever says I'll suck your dick and you're like Alright, and so it's just awkward.

Speaker 1: 19:30

I don't know and I know, and the first question so I do, I'm sure, yes, for knows about reddit. But reddit everything is upvoted and the best upvote gets the top of the Comments and the number one comment is the bigger question is why did you take the ride?

Speaker 2: 19:46

I know exactly I was thinking. The same thing is like, yeah, that one is a immediate cancel.

Speaker 1: 19:51

Yeah, it's like oh, comment number three that should be comment number one says takes getting a tip to a whole new level. Maybe he was hoping for another comment, so how was it? And then one of the other comment says seems to me Andy is fishing for that driver that will let him. I don't know. It's like, oh, that's so weird, but I Mean against on a real node.

Speaker 2: 20:23

I mean, if he's not fishing for that, he's obviously fishing for some kind of a discussion or conversation. And that's just dumb too, right I mean? Yeah, I mean yeah.

Speaker 1: 20:33

What do you say like hey, so I see that you have this on there. This is, I mean, it's already awkward. I just wouldn't say anything but how many people do you have?

Speaker 2: 20:42

Do you have the referencing your profile?

Speaker 1: 20:45

Me yeah, I would say one in a hundred right now. That's maybe it. Yeah, maybe one in 50 rides will be like oh, I see your school bus driver or a podcaster.

Speaker 2: 20:57

Okay, I have quite a lot of people who references Like that. I'm from Denmark, so that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1: 21:05

I think that they look at that, yep so most people probably listen to or look at it for me, but that's just. Yours is more unique because you're from.

Speaker 2: 21:13

Denmark.

Speaker 1: 21:14

So they probably bring it up. But yeah, I can see that. What if someone change his pick? As a prank is picking, oh His picture as a prank.

Speaker 2: 21:25

I don't know if you can that, though, because you still have to get approved, and that's the big difference is, how did it get approved? How to get past the system right?

Speaker 1: 21:34

I mean, that's the thing, or I mean Us boomers over here. I mean, is it photoshop? I don't think it is, but you could just never tell on the internet if someone just made that up.

Speaker 2: 21:43

But it's definitely getting harder right, so Got me.

Speaker 1: 21:48

Steve. Thank you so much, steve. These fucking comments. Andy has sucked at least 10 decks in the past seven days. Can't wait till the review comes in. Why everyone is so funny. Okay, that was great.

Speaker 2: 22:07

So this next one here is actually interesting, and whether or not it's really true I don't know, but there's. The storyline goes we're making six figures. It was Vegas family drives for uber to pay for holiday gift and it's the grandma, which I don't think she's that old.

Speaker 1: 22:23

You know what? Yes, well say, I did try to find a video on it, but I couldn't find it anywhere.

Speaker 2: 22:27

So that's fine. That's fine, I'll read. I'll read the story. The story is from KT and V Las Vegas, abc 13, las Vegas local station. So, as I said, it's, it's the grandma, and I'm assuming she's probably in her 40s, late 40s I didn't know, he's not that, that or by any means and then her daughter and son-in-law, or son and daughter and or whatever, and Basically she started driving first and then she talked her Son and daughter into driving as well and her son and daughter is together driving and making over six figures. They say they eat, make five thousand dollars a month when they drive full-time for uber, which I think it's great If it's actually the truth.

Speaker 1: 23:13

No, they clear five grand by them together, not each.

Speaker 2: 23:17

No, they must. They must because if you do the math, if they only do five grand, that's only 60 grand.

Speaker 1: 23:22

Oh, you're right, I'm a dumb ass.

Speaker 2: 23:24

Oh, it must be. It must be that they're doing each, because I read the same thing and, but, but you're afraid to be more than six figures. They have to do each to five grand a year. I'm on the right the way.

Speaker 2: 23:34

Long story short, I think it's great if they are, and and definitely it's possible, but it's getting harder and harder to do that. And you definitely have to drive smart, and we know that they are. Both of them are driving In those times where you know they have to be driving through the bar. They have to be driving all the way through the weekend. You know that and and and some of the smart times during the week as well. So, but anyways, whenever, just real quick.

Speaker 2: 23:59

When Emily Rogers started driving for over two years ago, she didn't realize just how much she would enjoy it. She works at the US Postal Service and she says she's looking for supplements and income. Gas went up, a problem, price went up, cash went up about all that stuff. Now she says the app has an essential way to pay for basic needs and said it will help her with holiday gift shopping. If I drive during the holidays, I can easily add a couple hundred dollars a week. So they're not so. That not only helps myself, but it helps me get stuff. My grandson, who was bought, but who was bought, born last year, but one last week last year. So, and then she goes on and talk about her son and daughter-in-law as well, and how they are now also driving full-time. And, as I said, I think it is. It is interesting and definitely possible, but a lot of work though you it means to do that I think you have to. You have to drive more than 40 hours, don't you think, jason? Yeah, I would.

Speaker 1: 24:52

I'd be curious. I know, wait, wait, that's my other friend, gabe has been grinding doing rideshare. I'd be curious how much, because I've seen some of the screenshots and it's, I mean it's 1500 to 2000 and I don't. I don't know if that's all rideshare, but I Mean I think you could probably do it, but it is that a week, yeah, but it's, it's a week, 40 plus hours, I mean sure, and I think I think Gabe's in a better market. He's in the Ann Arbor market which is, I mean it's wealthy, right, I mean it's probably the rich in the area or in the state, but but yeah, they're probably doing a lot. I'm not sure how she's doing that and working at the post office.

Speaker 2: 25:35

Oh no, so she's just. She's just doing a couple hundred dollars a week. Oh, next to the post office, her son and daughter. I was doing a full. Oh my bad. Okay, yeah, so that's how that was doing it. So so.

Speaker 2: 25:46

I think again, I think it's cool, I think they are driving obviously in Las Vegas, so that probably ties into it, yes. And then you know it's a different market and and you know obviously they they take it serious, they know what they're doing and all that stuff. So I think it's definitely positive and I think it's good for us to see these positive stories coming out of Uber and the fact that it is possible for you to to make a living on it. But unfortunately, I do think it's more and more gonna be there. It's not gonna be the rule where people have really seen that.

Speaker 1: 26:20

I don't understand why people want to do like I love having Variety. I mean I don't like a lot of change but I still like oh, I'm tired of rideshare, I'm gonna go do something else. I don't understand people that lock themselves into, like you know, working at a factory for 35, 40 years, like go do something else go do deliveries like Broaden your horizon? I don't know, I just kind of popped into my head.

Speaker 2: 26:44

I mean the one thing, definitely, that I would say for these, this couple here, is that if it is your full-time income, you want to get more apps in, you know, in your basket, and don't just do because what happens when you get the activated? Yeah, and you also, you should always be like Double dipping with lift and uber anyways.

Speaker 1: 27:02

Like check what lifts off for any of this week, check what uber is whatever is a better deal. I mean, once you get smart enough to know the program, you just figure it out and be like okay, this week is lift, you know. But oh, yeah, let's. Let's talk about our. Did you look at yours by chance while I bring mine up? I?

Speaker 2: 27:21

did not. No, don't bring yours up, don't you?

Speaker 1: 27:26

fucker, where did I put? Them oh here, they are. Stop you. Where are you? You need to get laid.

Speaker 4: 27:37

Okay.

Speaker 1: 27:39

Not by me either. My quest this weekend 60 rides for 70, or 50 trips for 55, and then the 60 trips for 70. If you do 10 more it gives you 35, or 20 more gives you 50.

Speaker 2: 27:57

So not very good. I don't have any any lifted reward at all. No and my Uber opportunity is.

Speaker 4: 28:10

What.

Speaker 2: 28:15

The 60 for 70 is like a dollar yeah, that's why I'm 60 for 70 or 50 for 55. Yep.

Speaker 1: 28:21

That's what I have. My lift one is $30. You for 40 rides, you get 30 bucks.

Speaker 2: 28:30

So it's pretty bad, but but I still have my week quest that has to be finished by the 11th for For 10, 10 trips.

Speaker 1: 28:39

Take 10 trips and get an extra hunt and ask yeah, I think it's not just our area, I think it's just the, the times I guess. I don't know, I don't ever remember it getting so bad around Christmas, but I could be wrong.

Speaker 2: 28:54

So I mean that is what they kind of bring up In in the article we just talked about. Is they? They started driving, do you know, for for the holidays to make a little extra money, and you see that a lot, I think, in these times and unfortunately that obviously makes it worse for everybody.

Speaker 1: 29:10

Yeah, I mean you know, especially people that are doing it for full time and I don't know, I don't know if, if a full time is For everybody. You just really got to know what the fuck you're doing. Yes, I mean if you don't. If you're just gonna fuck around and throw the app on like you're, you're in some serious shit.

Speaker 2: 29:31

Well, you just kind of make. You know you're gonna lose more money than you, then what is worth?

Speaker 1: 29:35

in like how long is gonna take before you, you know, figure that out?

Speaker 2: 29:39

So how? Where do you go to learn how to do Uber and lift?

Speaker 1: 29:42

Fuck, if I know.

Speaker 2: 29:44

Get coming show that come.

Speaker 1: 29:46

Oh sorry, no listen in this podcast, it's so professional. I.

Speaker 2: 29:55

Thought I really laid it up well for you there, yeah, I was reading the article.

Speaker 1: 30:00

I was pre-reading my article that's coming out. We actually had this on for last week and put it in the title and didn't talk about it. That's how professional we are. So this is kind of a bait and switch on this title, which Uh, whatever, a lot of marbus is. Tesla launches ride share program in major city that will cost riders only two dollars a ride. Here's how the company pulled it off Dash, which stays for downtown area shared hubs debate debuted in Tampa, florida, on October 12th.

Speaker 1: 30:30

Unlike other ride share apps like Uber or Lyft, dash doesn't take people directly to their location. Instead, there are more than 20 hubs throughout the seven dot, seven downtown Tampa neighborhoods. Each vehicle is bright yellow Tesla model. Why that will take riders from one hub to another with a capacity of four riders at two dollars a piece. So when you kind of read the article you're like, oh, is this Tesla starting to ride your company? But obviously they're not. I mean the price isn't bad. I mean if, if you know, if you're going to a certain area, but I don't know if I want to ride with everybody. I mean it's, I guess it's kind of like a shared ride.

Speaker 2: 31:06

But oh yeah, what was it Uber used to be called? They had a service for that.

Speaker 1: 31:11

Well, they still do, but they called it.

Speaker 2: 31:16

I thought they got rid of it from COVID Well they did, but they brought it back.

Speaker 1: 31:19

Yeah, you want to find out about the gig economy and you don't even know. Fucking, uber shared rides is back. Don't go to our website. Go to you, poor you porn. You Don't know what it's called. Now we don't have it anymore. I think it's just called uber share.

Speaker 2: 31:39

What the fuck did it used to Always not cut. It was here.

Speaker 1: 31:42

Yes, somebody help me out. Tyler, help me out, driven dad.

Speaker 1: 31:45

He probably knows, top ubers 90 rides for five hundred and seventy dollars. No, that's not your. That's not your your quest, is it? 90 rides for five hundred seventy dollars? That's your bonus, jesus Christ, oh, uber pool. Thank you, tony, fuck you. How did we? How do we not? Yeah, see, uber shares, uber x shares Shared. How did we not? How did I forget pool? That's a perfect name for a pool, a cesspool. That's the quest. So you do nine, oh, Sorry, so it came back.

Speaker 2: 32:22

I had to ask right so it it got. It got Completely removed before COVID, obviously, and it's coming, came back. It's coming back they. This article says it's coming back. This is from June and 2022. It comes back. Comes back on the hoop as uber x share.

Speaker 1: 32:41

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 32:42

Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 1: 32:42

Tony said but I mean you can't, you, you you can't Unclick it, it's not a separate box, so it's uber x, share, that's what it is. So you get them, they come in, you get notifications, you can decline them, but you can't, you can't filter them out, so you'd have to use maximum or something like that to to automatically decline them. So it's not. It's not like. It's like you can do uber x or you can do uber share. Right, who was she? Oh.

Speaker 1: 33:15

Francis. So, anyways, yeah, tesla's doing some shit in Austin and whatever. What aren't they not doing? Speaking of Tesla's, you don't need one when you go to. I know I don't know our of my inspections.

Speaker 1: 33:29

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Speaker 1: 33:46

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Speaker 1: 34:27

I know I am been so stuffy right, and so I actually went to the pharmacy and got the the good suit of earth, a good Deconjusted. Okay, it is dried me out so bad. I'm constantly thirsty. It's like I'm smoking weed all day and I have cotton mouth. It's so bad and that. And now that I'm talking a lot during the show, I'm just like. I know it's so bad.

Speaker 2: 34:55

Well, why are you doing that? I would talk about our next story, oh, which is another reddit, and and, and the headline goes kicked someone out, forgot his phone in my car. So I kicked somebody out and the idiot forgot his phone in my car. So I'm driving this guy and his woman, the writer on the, her name, and I always ask the writer what music they want, and we'll come back to that, because there's some. There's some interesting about things about that.

Speaker 2: 35:20

He asked for David Guetta, which I have no idea who that is. So I played the music on Spotify and he lost his shit when he didn't recognize his music, so I changed it. He didn't told me I probably don't have a girlfriend, so I just kept quiet. I wouldn't lose it. He asked me a question that I didn't answer and stated I'm just trying to focus on the ride. He ended up swearing at me, saying there's a fucking GPS, you don't need to do anything. So I pulled over and kicked him out and the woman up, dumbass, forgot his phone. I'm out to ask for a hundred bucks to give it back. I'll call the other woman on his phone. There's, that's it. So the number one thing that people are saying is wait, people actually ask the writer what music they want to hear when they get into the car.

Speaker 1: 36:08

I know like who does that I?

Speaker 2: 36:12

do, Do you? I give them the option. I mean, right now I have that. What's it called Spot? Of or serious satellite, Serious XM, yeah, and so if they want to change it, I usually just leave it on that one good channel which just moved to channel six, but anyways and. But if they want to change it, I don't care, they can do that. That's fine. I used to have that tablet thing with people loved yeah.

Speaker 1: 36:42

I'm curious. I think octopus, which we'll talk about later, the tablet that entertains people with trivia and stuff like that I think they're going to bring that feature. I don't want them to because I already have enough connected to my car Like I don't and I honestly like I don't ask people what they want to hear.

Speaker 1: 37:00

I you're going to, you're going to. I think a lot of people do this, but I'm probably going to say it out loud. I look at what, who they are and what they look like and I kind of well, no, I take that back. I have a few staple stations. I'm never going to turn it to country, so like if you got a cowboy hat on, you're not getting country.

Speaker 1: 37:20

You're getting you're probably getting pop rocks. I don't mind country, but like I don't even know what country I don't even know. Like he's a young guy, does he like young country? Like I don't even know so. But no, I mean, and and just because it's a black person, I don't turn on like hardcore rap, but like no, the pop 2k has a lot of old classic hip hop songs, so I always turn that on just because you know. But it is funny when you get young black people in there and you turn that on, they don't fucking know any of that shit. It's, it's, it's the same thing. You know if the music I grew up they're like they don't know what the fuck this is. But no, I never ask and I don't. And I used to. Early in the Uber days people would ask to. You know, we always tease me about the ox court and stuff. Dude, I have not had anyone ask for music or an ox code in such a long time.

Speaker 2: 38:17

I know people don't ask about the ox court anymore.

Speaker 1: 38:20

I don't know why maybe cause so many writers just were like nope, not gonna, not gonna do it, or so many drivers Sorry, and people got used to it.

Speaker 2: 38:30

Yeah, I had somebody actually asked me if they can connect their phone to my, to my my Android orders. No, you can't. No.

Speaker 1: 38:37

Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 2: 38:39

I'm not gonna connect your phone to my Bluetooth or whatever now Tyler says, bro, country 24 seven.

Speaker 1: 38:46

Tony says more mid 40s women asked me for hardcore rap. So what like hardcore rap? Like the, like new hardcore rap or like old stuff? I tell him Elon hates auxiliary. Yeah, he doesn't want any chords in here. He wants a clean, clean finish. That's a little bit.

Speaker 1: 39:06

But yeah, nope, you're not getting. I mean, if I'm vibing with somebody and they're like, yeah, can you turn it to something like this, I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll try, you know, but if, if, yeah, if you're going to walk in and just say, hey, but all right, a couple more things. So it says why older Americans are ditching retirement for Uber and Lyft. So it's very full of a lot of content. But I mean, obviously I think we know why, right, they retired due to COVID and health concerns and then they realized, ooh, I might not be ready to retire yet, which I think the gig economy for somebody that does this, that's semi retired or retired I think it's great right.

Speaker 2: 39:50

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 39:51

And it gives them an opportunity to earn more money and not just be like because some people, once they retire, they don't don't really have a retirement, let's say, and social security is not enough, and they do, let you earn a certain amount on social security before they start taking it away. So this is a great way for somebody that they're not going to walk into a workplace at 65, 17 years old. Who's going to fucking hire them?

Speaker 2: 40:14

Well, the other thing too it's also a social aspect for them, right? Because a lot of people they will just sit on their answers at home and do nothing. Yeah, this gives them a purpose.

Speaker 1: 40:23

Yeah, that's actually good that's. I think that's the second advantage too. But you know a lot of people, so I'm going to read a couple of stories. Wesley, a San Francisco Uber driver, has been 60s, said that he's semi retired and still drives roughly 40 hours a week for Uber. For additional income he brought in 50k, but these earnings didn't account for his gas insurance, vehicle maintenance expense, which lowers his take home profits. So this is where people like I'm like ugh. These extra expenses are why Johnson has been driving an electric vehicle through an Uber partnership with Hertz. Johnson thinks he driving an EV will save him money on gas and maintenance expenses to make his gig work more profitable in the long run, not renting from Uber. It won't.

Speaker 2: 41:08

No.

Speaker 1: 41:08

Right, I mean, I mean he is driving roughly 40 hours, but you know what is it? $300 to $400 a week. But a guy like that I mean he's in his mid 60s he probably I mean I would I'm going to speculate that he has decent credit Like go buy an EV, Go buy one, don't fucking rent one.

Speaker 2: 41:30

But so that's the other side of that, though is and again I'm saying well, I don't want to rent it, right, but how much is it going to cost to buy one? How much you? What will your payment be if you're buying a Tesla?

Speaker 1: 41:42

I mean it all depends. I mean I'll tell you what my payment is and I put zero money down and right now the interest rate is insane it's 8%. So my payment on a $37,000 car is $590 a month. Right, but I mean that's a month, it's not Sure. Three to $400 a week.

Speaker 2: 42:03

You know what I mean. True.

Speaker 1: 42:05

That's always going to be a better bet to buy, Although you do get like roadside assistance. You don't have to deal with any of the maintenance or anything. If there's any issues tires, whatever- that's not that expensive?

Speaker 2: 42:23

No, it's not. I mean, I can buy that extra for an extra. What? $50 a month?

Speaker 1: 42:28

Yeah, no, no, it's so not worth it. You got. I mean I get if you. I mean we have so many in our community that does do it. He doesn't rent a Tesla but he does rent another car. I get it If you got. If this works for you, go for it. If you're willing to put in the hours and figure it out, I totally get it. But I think, I think that EV will save a gig worker in the long run, but not renting it.

Speaker 4: 42:56

Right.

Speaker 1: 42:57

Personally. I know this wasn't really about an EV, but we, we, finally. We always find a way to get on that, but Tesla tires are expensive.

Speaker 1: 43:06

Yeah, I'm sure they are rotating is probably, you know, pretty important. But yeah, I mean I, you know we can go through all the stories, but I just like that. It's such a great opportunity for the elderly to keep busy socially and to make a little money without having to worry about a boss and be like because there's age discrimination. There, totally is, oh, absolutely. So where are you going to walk into a Verizon store and sell phones? I mean, you're 65. You shouldn't have to go be a greeter at Walmart, like I mean you know what I mean. Like, and this is a physical thing for them, that they that's not hard for them to do so like a lot of them have disabilities. I think it's great. I think more old people should, should take advantage of that if they want to.

Speaker 1: 43:51

So oh, I agree oh okay, I agree, I was like this next story here you didn't happen to grab. I know we should just skip it. We should just skip it because there's no picture. But basically here I'll do it real quick. Uber has their robots to deliver food. They dress them up as reindeer, Although there was a little bit more than that, Wasn't there?

Speaker 2: 44:12

Well, yeah, but hold on. So they're talking about talking about their, their charter, the fleet of charter buses too. You can rent in some, some areas and stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 44:21

Oh well, just do it.

Speaker 2: 44:22

I didn't realize that A little bit of a so it's just a little bit of a fun story. Basically, uber is rolling out robots dressed as reindeer and a festive fleet of karaoke charter buses decked out with lights. Driving the news, san Francisco based company announced a bundle of holiday products today, including a new store pickup program launching in more than 1700 cities and towns across the country. So basically all their robots. In some of the major cities they're putting red noses on them and and and Antler, so that's kind of fun for their Uber eats delivery robots. And then, if you're in the market to rent a mini bus not a mini bus, but a party bus, anything like that you can. In Miami, washington DC and Chicago, new York and Los Angeles you can rent one of their festive fleet by Uber charter.

Speaker 1: 45:11

They're taking over everything. Oh yeah, like they're doing fucking everything they have the platform. I know, I know, it's just like good.

Speaker 2: 45:20

God, it's the same as Amazon. What was it? I told you last week that Amazon is now the biggest delivery partner in America. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 45:32

They, they are bigger than UPS and FedEx and all of them. They are the biggest. That's crazy. So then the last thing of the story, real quick, is that they are extended their Uber store pickup program or taking that big picking that bag up. So this is the same program as you can, you can use, so they're using in some markets so you can get them to deliver your, take your, your product back. You can now use that to also buy products getting picked up from the store.

Speaker 1: 45:57

You know what's frustrating about a lot of these features? I like that, I think I would be, I would like to do that, and they always just do the cities, the bigger cities, like why can't they just do it in a Grand Rapids?

Speaker 2: 46:10

I don't know.

Speaker 1: 46:10

Yeah, I mean, just turn it on, let us do it Like what infrastructure do you absolutely need? I mean, the Staples in Grand Rapids is the same as the Staples in California and the same as in Austin, I mean with some changes here and there, but I just wish they would do that around us too. You know what I mean. Like we miss out on some of the cool stuff. So yeah, Amazon is delivering cars next year.

Speaker 1: 46:34

If this is successful, it's going to go. You're going to see all these car, all these companies do it Like it's going to be gone. You're not going to have to go to a sales room anymore, like it's just they're literally going to be delivered to your house. But you don't. You don't I mean absolutely and do they take free returns? Do you guys have to drop it off at Coles?

Speaker 2: 46:59

Well, so you can't do it at Coles anymore.

Speaker 1: 47:01

Yeah, you can. I don't know why you say that my wife just returned something today at Coles.

Speaker 2: 47:05

Well, they used to be called on Alpine, but they don't do that anymore.

Speaker 1: 47:08

They removed that, so now it's I was going to say, well, maybe it's just that, coles.

Speaker 2: 47:14

It could be. It could be. So just up the street from Coles on Alpine, there is a UPS store and you can take a feedback there.

Speaker 1: 47:21

You know, another place that's popped up for us is Staples. I feel like these companies are just grasping at things to survive and they're like hey if we can get people in the door, maybe they'll buy something.

Speaker 2: 47:33

Well, yeah, I mean, there's no doubt. There's no doubt that the retail model is changing.

Speaker 1: 47:40

The coupon that Staples gave me was actually really good. It was $10 off a $30 purchase.

Speaker 2: 47:48

But when are you going to buy it Exactly? But I'm just saying it was a third, of a discount off.

Speaker 1: 47:53

You know what I mean. Like it's, it's, it's a really good discount. Tom's back everyone. Just in case you were worried.

Speaker 2: 48:00

Welcome back, tom, welcome on.

Speaker 1: 48:02

All right Moving on. So Uber DoorDash forced to pay up big due to the new rule. Unfortunately, uber, doordash and Grow Bubble faced massive financial implications after the companies were unsuccessful in a bid to block a new minimum pay rule in New York. The companies attempt to overturn the rule rejected by state appeals court. Blah, blah, blah. The new rule requires the companies to pay their delivery drivers a minimum of $17.96 per hour under the new rule, or a rate of 50 cents per mile. Yeah, yeah, dang. Where was I reading something else? Oh, there are about 60,000 app delivery workers in the city, though they only receive about $11 per hour after tips and other expenses, which is less than $15 the minimum wage in the city, according to Bloomberg. But $11 an hour, I mean $11 an hour. That can't be right, can it?

Speaker 2: 48:58

I think it can, because there's too many idiots taking all those stupid rides.

Speaker 1: 49:01

Well, and then like, how do they calculate expenses? Is it just an average, because my expense might be way less. I mean, I went and you know, I got the pilot, I washed it today, I cleaned it out, I, you know, did everything for Avery because her birthday is coming up in a couple weeks, and I went and got gas in it and put $46 in there. I'm like I can't fucking imagine that I used to do this like every other day.

Speaker 4: 49:25

What you know what I mean when.

Speaker 1: 49:26

I was working like all the time and I'm like I hadn't put gas in a car in so long and it was just like, oh, holy cow. But anyways, I digress. The expenses is that? You know? What are they basing that on? Like the average cost of gas and those kind of things? I don't know.

Speaker 2: 49:43

Yeah, I don't know either. I don't know either. So if you just saw, I don't know if you saw enough. But to Francis was just asking is it true I'm putting up again is it true that gig workers value of flexibility most in their roles? I don't know that. I think that is the truth for me. I mean, I like it, but but it's a truth for me.

Speaker 1: 50:02

Yeah, I mean, I love the flexibility. If they may, I think I would be done with gig work if all of a sudden, it said yep, you have to schedule these, I don't mind doing it periodically, I think that's what he's talking about. I don't mind like doing a flex route from, like you know, 5pm to 8pm.

Speaker 2: 50:21

That's okay, but it's still because it's still your choice to do it Exactly.

Speaker 1: 50:26

If they say, I can only drive Uber from noon to four and that's the only time you get like. That doesn't work for my schedule. You know what I?

Speaker 2: 50:33

mean no, no, but also it wouldn't. Uber wouldn't be interesting for you then at all if they, even no matter what timing they would give you.

Speaker 1: 50:42

Yeah, I mean yeah, cause it's not flexible.

Speaker 2: 50:45

Right, I'm going to be able to call it whenever I want to.

Speaker 1: 50:47

Yeah, exactly. And if I want to go out and spin my wheels and not make any money, well fucking let me Like. What do you care?

Speaker 4: 50:53

So that's why why.

Speaker 1: 50:54

Yosper and I always push so hard to be independent contractors because I'm worried over time as all these government things come in place. They're going to be like well yeah, you know, sorry, you can't go online. We have too many drivers, which they've talked about in certain areas. Sorry, Right. So let me go online and let me work when I want to work, you know. But exactly.

Speaker 2: 51:19

So this next story is kind of scary, if you will what it is, and so just listen to this. The headline goes you put my life in danger. Woman jumps out of a vehicle. This is in Pennsylvania. Woman is sharing a finding or DLF's she had, she said. An Uber driver hit a car and fled the scene, all with her in the backseat. It seems fun.

Speaker 1: 51:43

The young woman Chiara huh. I said that seems fun.

Speaker 2: 51:46

I know. The young woman, chiara, said she begged her driver to stop after hitting the other vehicle, but when he didn't, she feared for her own life. That's when she jumped out along a busy stretch of highway into traffic. So crazy, so so crazy that Chiara said she ordered the Uber from Washington, pennsylvania, to Pittsburgh. It's a roughly 40 minute drive. She explained the things were going smoothly until just before 1am. So I think this was the first giveaway for me 1am. This is middle of the night.

Speaker 2: 52:16

When the driver missed her exit along the interstate 79 near Robinson. Then this is what he does he's on the interstate. He put it in reverse to get back onto the exit. Oh my God, state police confirmed that's when the Uber driver identified as something good, good and Christiano rammed into another vehicle, causing it to roll over. But instead of stopping he kept going with Chiara still in the backseat, baking him to pull over.

Speaker 2: 52:47

Can you imagine this? That would be scary, oh my God. I kept saying please stop, just please stop the car. I want to get out. I had several times and at that point he had, at that point had to just jump out, she said. After she jumped out, the Uber driver finally stopped and Chiara grabbed her cell phone and called for help. Unfortunately, she endured several serious friction burns and had to be taken to the hospital because, of course, she jumped out of the car. Now she wants accountability from not only the driver but the company. It's hard to contact for help on the Uber app. I feel like there should be some type of emergency button, she explained.

Speaker 1: 53:25

Isn't there emergency button? I guess I haven't driven or I haven't ridden it in a while. Isn't there like? A big button right on the front of it.

Speaker 2: 53:33

I don't know. I want to say I thought there used to be a 911 button or something like that.

Speaker 1: 53:40

Yeah, I mean I think you have to start a ride. I mean I can open the rider app, but I think you have to start a ride. But I'm pretty sure it's the same one that we have, because we have one when we're taking rides too.

Speaker 2: 53:55

So no charges have been filed, but Uber confirmed that they are working with police to help with the investigation. Hopefully that guy has been deactivated.

Speaker 1: 54:03

Oh, I'm sure he has. I'm sure he has. So the last one I want to talk about real quick. I thought it was interesting because we've all talked about the Uber Eats and how much they take and stuff. This was kind of a good article about a local company so I'll try to breeze through it real quick. But the Mudder Milk Drop does more morning business than nearly anyone else in the city's Uber Eats. This owner says people with the order button nonstop every morning buying all this food.

Speaker 1: 54:33

The iconic family-owned eatery on North I'm not pronouncing that street and the Seventh Ward has been around since 2008. Seven years ago they began doing online orders. The restaurants overall operations now rely on the daily online breakfast, which usually totals about 5K a week. So this is a problem with getting used to this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1: 54:54

With technology right, people pay an order with a click, it goes to the Uber Eats system and they get it delivered, or it did till last week. One week ago last Monday, the weakness of the Uber Eats online system became clear when manager Tiffany London noticed that there were missing a week's worth of payments from Uber Eats system, which typically takes this cut and then deposits the rest each week into a vendor's account. I mean, I guess that makes sense, but I felt like it was like a what do they say? Term 30 or term 45 days or something. I felt like it would have been something like that. You know, you got 30 days and then you submit an invoice, blah, blah, blah, but it looks like it's automatic is what it is for us.

Speaker 2: 55:33

Yeah, and I would say, why else? Why else would? Would a vendor do it? I mean, yeah, true, I'm not going to wait 30 days to get my money. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 55:41

After you put out all this product. As she checked more into the situation, she realized someone had changed the bank account from the restaurant's local Hancock Whitney account to unknown Bank of America account in Atlanta. It was made worse by Uber's resilience. Is it reliance? Reliance On online communication with rare human contact, to the point that the bakery's local Uber Eats reps didn't respond to a single message. Oh, starting last money. Multiple frantic calls and emails to Uber Eats local rep went unanswered. People that London Henry had spoke through Uber Eats 1-800 number couldn't get to the bottom of the problem. See, that's fucking scary. Like you're owed all this money, let's say 5K and like, oh, we can't figure it out. Are you kidding me right? Now.

Speaker 1: 56:24

I mean, let's face it, most restaurant owners don't make a ton of money unless you're like, oh, it's a multiple location. I'm like it's a living, it's a J-O-B, really, if you think about it and of course you probably when you retire you can sell it and, you know, retire on that, but it's not like they're making bank.

Speaker 2: 56:40

Oh, no, no, no, let's see.

Speaker 1: 56:42

Nearly nearby small businesses also expressed concern. There is no local data for apps like Door to Ashton, uber, eats. National studies have found, though, that food delivery apps have seen a 41% increase since the pandemic. Online food ordering now accounts for roughly 40% of restaurant sales. That's so much Right, it says. For a small, family owned business, losing that revenue felt like catastrophic, so oh absolutely.

Speaker 1: 57:08

So blah, blah blah, they finally got a hold of somebody, but let me go back. So they said that after investigation over the weekend, Uber believes that the business was the victim of a phishing scam and that someone had likely given the account credentials to a hacker. But that doesn't seem right because there's so many things you have to do to get that information changed.

Speaker 2: 57:37

Well, that's what it is for you and I. We don't know what the platform is for them.

Speaker 1: 57:43

Well, it says merchants have responsibility to protect their login credentials. By the end of the day Someone had transferred. He says the owners are baffled by that because it's only two of them that know the credentials. He wonders if someone hacked in the New Orleans UberEAT system and targeted its business because, unlike other delivery services which are more lax about account protection, Uber's own procedure do not allow merchants to hop online and make the kind of changes that the hacker made. We have to validate our identities and make those changes by phone with someone from Uber.

Speaker 1: 58:15

So they're saying they got to call in to even make any kind of banking changes.

Speaker 2: 58:22

So somebody made a phone call and acted like them. Something like that, yeah.

Speaker 1: 58:31

I don't think it was a phishing scam, because the phishing scam is like you know oh click on this link right and you, you know, go in there and do all that stuff. So it doesn't surprise me that Uber, you know, said no, sorry, it's your fault. So I don't know if they're going to get that money back or not.

Speaker 2: 58:47

But how can it be Uber's fault If they, if there's no way for them to change it themselves in the app, then it's not their fault. Exactly, it's got to be Uber's app.

Speaker 1: 58:55

It's got to be.

Speaker 2: 58:56

Uber's app, uber's fault.

Speaker 1: 58:57

Yeah, yeah, they had they, they, you have. According to them, you have to call in to get all that stuff changed, like that's like to me, that's like we can change our stuff online and then you, it's relatively easy. But if they got to call in, yeah, fucking Uber app fuck. But they don't want to take. You know they don't want to take.

Speaker 2: 59:17

there's a 10,000 bars, yeah.

Speaker 1: 59:20

And for somebody that that's a small business like that, like it's, it could shut them down.

Speaker 2: 59:25

Oh, yeah, it would.

Speaker 1: 59:26

So well, guys. Thank you so much for listening. Oh, steve, I know you're not on here, but I so appreciate when you send people over. I love to see Tony on here. Actually, it was funny earlier this week Tony commented on our latest episode on YouTube. He probably has YouTube premium so you can actually listen to stuff online without getting interrupted and put your phone dark. He said, hey, I'm listening to this Monday morning, so that was super cool for her to comment on the on our latest episode. But yeah, thank you, steve for bringing in and thanks for the super chat. We super appreciate that. And yes, we're going to be gone next week, so we're going to have Larry on. I know I had messaged Steve and it's so funny he didn't mess me back for like a week and I was like okay, he's busy, whatever, I'll just ask Larry. And then tonight he's like let me know if you want to come on. So probably not this this time, steve, but I appreciate you still being able to do that. Come on, but yes, we're enjoying the sunshine next week.

Speaker 2: 1:00:23

Thank you and happy holidays to all the listeners. Yes, this would be the last show. I was still doing something offensive.

Speaker 1: 1:00:30

I don't know what are we going to do, oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:00:33

Well, we talked about. You know, we posting a couple of the older episodes, but we'll figure it out.

Speaker 1: 1:00:37

We'll figure it out, but so yeah, next week will be our last episode for 2024. As far as live goes, there might be 2023. 2023. Thank you, I've already jumped to here. It's because I'm dehydrated. But, as always, guys don't put up with anyone's bullshit.

Speaker 2: 1:00:53

And we'll see you on the road, good night, good night.

Speaker 1: 1:00:57

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