Ep #180 Jason almost gets in a fight, and Uber actually made a profit.

Navigating the twists and turns of the gig economy, Larry and I peel back the curtain on the not-so-glamorous aspects, like the raw confrontations with unruly passengers and the ethical quagmires that companies like Uber face while drivers struggle for fair pay. 

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Speaker 1: 0:16

Music Hello, Good evening. Welcome to the Gage Economy Podcast episode 180. No, we are not on strike. We are here to provide great entertainment for you all. We're not striking.

Speaker 2: 0:45

No.

Speaker 1: 0:45

I'm glad you're all here tonight.

Speaker 2: 0:47

Larry, how you doing? I'm doing well, sir, doing well. No, not striking, we're not scabs, we're professionals.

Speaker 1: 0:55

We should clarify that we're not protesting, because Steve made a good point. It's a protest. You kind of have to be an employee if you're going to strike.

Speaker 2: 1:05

Yeah, you kind of have that small little detail, Right right.

Speaker 1: 1:10

So thank you guys so much for joining us. Everything you need to know about the show, go to gigacademyshowcom. You can sign up for our newsletter that never comes out, or the letter or the email that I supposed to send out when a new episode drops. That I just realized that I didn't do because, yes, we're used to do that and I'm literally realizing it right now. But anyways, you can go to gigacademyshowcom and all the news is on there what's going on with the show and Gage Economy News throughout the world. I'd like to mention our Patreon members and thank them. Oh, I got a delete one.

Speaker 2: 1:41

Hold on, hey. Hey, I'm paid up through February.

Speaker 1: 1:45

Oh, okay Larry from Bowling Green, Samson from Gruner Rapids, Steve from Colorado, Bud Degman from North Carolina, Omar from Detroit, DeliveryCats from Michigan, Jamie from Tennessee, Frank from Philly, Nate from Florida, John McAllion from California, Tom from Chicago and Jim from Connecticut. Thank you so much for supporting the show. If you really want to support us, which we would really appreciate it, if you go to patreoncom slash gigaconpodcast, like Jim did, he said, hey, I want to support the guys on the show and in fact tonight we are doing a live Patreon bonus podcast after the show at 9, 10 pm Eastern Standard Time. Join us there. If you can't find us with that, just search the Gig Economy podcast in the Patreon app or on the desktop and then you can join us. For all the shenanigans, the shenanigans.

Speaker 2: 2:38

Lots of shenanigans, yes.

Speaker 1: 2:40

Also, the Telegram group is something that we've had two people join in the last week, Jeffrey and Marissa.

Speaker 2: 2:50

And then I think we had one joined today as well.

Speaker 1: 2:54

Yeah, I think that was Jeffrey. Is that Jeffrey, jeffrey, jeffrey, I like that. I like Jeffrey. I don't know what it is, jeff, just seems like a douche.

Speaker 1: 3:04

Jeffrey's a good solid name Jeffrey, but anyways, if you would love to join the Telegram group, which is a group where we can connect, talk about gig work and all that stuff and those kind of things, but yeah, check that out. The link is in the description. So I have some epic stories from the road and I know Larry has some, so I'm not going to overshadow his first, so we're going to let Larry tell his stories.

Speaker 2: 3:33

Yeah, and then I have two Just to warm up this little smidge of what Jason's got in store for him. Yeah, larry's going to wet your whistle per se, and then I'm going to blow up.

Speaker 2: 3:44

So, anyway, this one happened last night. I actually hadn't happened in quite a long time, but had a guy try to steal a ride. So I was downtown going to pick up my passenger. I was at a stoplight and it showed the passenger icon. It showed like they were still a little bit down the block, but sometimes that thing's not working yet, correct. Anyway, I'm sitting at the stoplight and these two guys walk by until they've been celebrating Mardi Gras. One guy had like this sparkly mask on and all that, so they're celebrating Mardi Gras, and the other guy walks over to my car and kind of motions me right down the window. He's like Uber, right? I'm like yeah. He's like, oh, you're my ride. And I'm like is your name Drew? He's like, yeah, yeah, drew Parker, that's my name.

Speaker 2: 4:28

And I was like he hesitated, he hesitated, and so he starts to get in. And he's like, oh, I'm going to get in, and he gives me a completely different address than is on there. I was like no, sorry dude, I'm not your ride. And he's in the backseat by this time. He's like, well, this leaves us in kind of an uncomfortable situation. I was like no, it doesn't get out of my car.

Speaker 3: 4:47

For you yeah.

Speaker 2: 4:47

There's nothing uncomfortable about it. Just get that out of my car. He's like you're really going to make me do this. I'm like, yes, I'm really making, get out of my car. My passenger is right down there, I can see him. Yeah, so he got in my car. The second one, also last night.

Speaker 2: 5:03

You know one of the things we talked about. It's not always about the money. Sometimes you just do things, you have passengers that you know. It makes you feel good about what you're doing. Yeah, I picked up a lady last night from a, from a motel, and she got in and we started taking off and she's like, she's like thank you so much. She's like you're an angel. She's like I'm, you're rescuing me from my abusive boyfriend. No, she was getting out of a very bad situation and it just makes you feel good when, when you're able to do things like that and I mean she was so appreciative I'm like you know, but I'm just you know, you're, you're, you're, you're telling her I'm just doing my job. I mean I'm just doing it. But she was very appreciative that somebody would come out there and pick her up and get you know, help her get out of this bad situation.

Speaker 1: 5:47

So you often wonder how many people were moving around that are in something like that.

Speaker 2: 5:51

That's like the third one that I've had that I know of.

Speaker 3: 5:54

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:55

But yeah, like you said you don't know how many you had that that they don't want to talk about it, or you know they don't want to share anything, or they're just too scared to share anything.

Speaker 1: 6:05

But when you hear, that did you like, let's get moving. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 6:12

I was already going and then she wanted us. She's like is there any way we could stop in a you know in a store real quick? I'm like yeah, but and there's one right across the street. I'm like no, we're not stopping there. Yeah, we're going down the road a little bit before we stop, so yeah.

Speaker 1: 6:27

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 6:28

And then that's good. Yeah, so hopefully it ends up well. You know you told her I was like, yeah, I pray for you, I hope. I'm glad you got away, I hope you stay away. You know that's all you can, all you can do.

Speaker 1: 6:39

Unfortunately, a lot of times they do go back and it's and I don't blame, no, it's very tough situation to get out of it really is.

Speaker 2: 6:46

I mean as much as you know people say, oh, that would never happen to me. It happens to a lot of people you'd never think would happen to. They're very strong people with you know. It happens slowly. You know things, yeah, over time, over time and and they just kind of break you down.

Speaker 1: 7:01

So Especially if you financially can't do it. Oh yeah, that's even the worst, you know yeah.

Speaker 2: 7:06

They cut you off. You know they'll cut them off. They don't want to. You know you're my wife, I make enough money. You don't have to work. I don't want you to work. And then they start cutting them off from their friends and, you know, isolating them.

Speaker 4: 7:18

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 7:20

They're really master manipulators, for sure.

Speaker 1: 7:23

Yeah, and Well, speaking of assholes, oh yeah, would you have another one? I got one more real quick.

Speaker 2: 7:29

Oh, I'm sorry, no problem. This one was on Saturday, so I picked up this four college girls and I was taking them.

Speaker 1: 7:37

There's a lot of darties going on on Saturday on campus, so You're going to have to give me a definition of what that is.

Speaker 2: 7:45

Darty, that's a day A day party. Yes, they're called darties on the college campuses.

Speaker 1: 7:50

Yeah, okay, look at this hip man over here.

Speaker 2: 7:54

Lots of the lots of those going on because the weather was, you know. I mean, it's fairly warm and get in. And so these four girls, the ones like now, you're Suzanne and you're Linda, and so what these girls had done? They'd made up fake names for each of themselves because they didn't want to give their real names to the frat guys.

Speaker 2: 8:14

So they're trying to make sure they had all their names down, Pat, right. And then the girl one of them looks at me and she's like you know what? We need to give you a new name too. And so they're discussing it back there and like, all right, now on, you're going to be Brad. Brad is your new name. So right, Brad, it is. I'm good, I'm down with that.

Speaker 1: 8:31

Okay, that's amazing. You have such a fun times with your college people.

Speaker 3: 8:39

That's so great.

Speaker 1: 8:40

They cracked me up. So over the weekend I had the epitome of what a definition of what like a ride share person goes through. I had one of the funnest rides and I almost got into a fist fight. So here's the question, larry, here's your. I'm looking for a professional opinion on this. Which one should I play first? So the fun one is a little bit not super long, but I cut a lot of it out. But so that one's about three minutes. The other one's about a minute and a half. What would you prefer?

Speaker 2: 9:15

I think I would go with the. I would do the fun one second. I would do the other one first. Okay, do the asshole one first. Do the asshole one first, okay.

Speaker 1: 9:26

All right, so I will play it and then I'll kind of explain it at the end. So we'll do that first. Oh, it's a little bit longer than I thought I titled this one. Go Fuck Yourself and you'll hear. You'll see why You'll hear why I blurred it out right here. I just, I just didn't want to officially show his face.

Speaker 4: 9:49

Hello for Julie. Good day, Love you guys. He's been enjoying our phone calls. Dude, he's locking the door Fuck off, you prick. You're being called in place now and you're being shot up in front of the bar. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get my car again, you fucking dumb. I've got your window, bro. Get the fuck out of here. Don't touch my car. I answered your fucking phone, bro. I said to you you were in a special driver and you had a picture of your shit, I'm around the corner.

Speaker 4: 10:21

after this four minutes, we have five minutes for a limit for you to answer.

Speaker 1: 10:24

Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 4: 10:24

Don't touch my car. Get the fuck out of here yourself, bro. God, do your job. You're a professional driver, I'm a professional driver. I would never do this to one of my customers. Why don't? You go drink another beer, so why don't you fucking?

Speaker 1: 10:37

go fuck yourself.

Speaker 4: 10:38

I'll go fuck myself. Drive safely as you go fuck yourself, learn to do your job better. How about that? I'm gonna alert you to the fucking thing. I'm gonna drink coffee. I'm gonna go fuck myself. I'm gonna go fucking drink. I'm gonna drink so well An annoying seatbelt.

Speaker 1: 11:11

What's the matter? You don't want me a little bitch.

Speaker 4: 11:15

Oh, you are a fucking idiot.

Speaker 3: 11:37

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2: 11:39

Oh goodness, I never seen you move? That quick man.

Speaker 1: 11:43

Oh, my God. So you kind of got the beginning of the story, you kind of got the gist of it right. So he was calling. I typically don't pick up the phone, so I'm so the whole night I was annoyed that people weren't looking for their driver, like I'm around the corner, I'm not gonna park on bridge, you dumb ass. It's a busy street, there's no parking and no one was, you know, walking around and looking at it. So that was the same thing he. I texted them. They're like we're out front. I said I'm around the corner. So what would you do around the corner? So you would walk out? Oh, there's a corner, I'm around it. So that's how it started.

Speaker 1: 12:22

So you can see in the video that I rolled the window up because I was gonna cancel it. Right, I'm a professional. I could already see he was elevated, he already knocked on my window a little aggressively and I said, nope, I'm just gonna cancel. And then it didn't do it justice in the video but the how loud he hit my car window or the side was so loud and I just fucking lost it. And, like they said, they're like I didn't think Jason could move that fast. I hit that button. Oh, you were out, I threw that seatbelt off.

Speaker 2: 13:28

You were gone.

Speaker 4: 13:29

And I was ready.

Speaker 1: 13:30

I was ready to go, and so I think he kind of caught. I didn't think he expected me to do it. I think he kind of caught I didn't think he expected me to get out of the car. I think he was gonna hit that and he thought I was gonna keep driving. I was like, not today, motherfucker, this is a brand new car and I still love it.

Speaker 1: 13:48

So, anyways, I peel out and then, of course, the bolt has such good acceleration. So you hear me squawk the tires a little bit because I whipped around the corner, because I was, I was really, I was really like I was elevated, I was a little, you know, you're like, okay, you're like fight or flight. Right, my adrenaline was pumping. I thought this guy was gonna hit me, so like I was whatever. So I go around the corner, calm down, and then I get that. You hear the lift ping. Well, the ping was for Seth. Well, I look, you see me. Look at the location. It's right where I dropped him off. So I was like, oh, I'm gonna fuck with these guys. So I drove around and, if you, if you could listen to the video, towards the end he was like, oh, you're a dumb cunt, and I just got a chuckle in my head when he said that.

Speaker 2: 14:35

So, oh man, so that's how I almost got in a fight.

Speaker 1: 14:37

He didn't even get in the car, see, like if you're a new driver, this is, this is a tip, like if it's going to be escalated, don't even just cancel. Like it's just not worth the fight for that and I wouldn't recommend bouncing out like I did I mean I was ready to get deactivated from lift at that point, like I was like if this motherfucker swung out I would be like I'm gonna get him.

Speaker 1: 14:59

I was like if this motherfucker swings on me, I am, I'm just in. I'm ready to just punch the shit out of that guy, but I think I'm okay. Regardless is because I canceled the ride. There's really no record of it, Anything like I didn't get paid for it, nothing. So I'm just glad you remember to put your car in part before you hopped out.

Speaker 1: 15:18

Yeah, Well, thankfully so with the electric car and the one pedal driving, I let. I don't use my breath pedal, I use my gas. So when I let off the gas pedal it stops. So it would have stayed there, it wouldn't have moved. But yeah, I whipped that fucking seat belt off. So quick. I'm like all right, here we go. Bitch, here we go. So, don't be like me. Don't be like me.

Speaker 2: 15:49

Don't be like that passenger either. Don't be pounding on people's cars.

Speaker 3: 15:53

Don't be smacking people's cars.

Speaker 2: 15:56

Don't be ready for your ride. Be looking for your ride. Everybody knows that GPS is not exact. You might be around the corner. Like you said, don't expect those to stop in the middle of a busy street and pick you up.

Speaker 1: 16:07

You know, he had a couple of gals with him. Well, julia was his girlfriend or whatever, and he had her phone, but like she didn't seem drunk, like how is she having I don't know. It was just a complete disaster. So that's the bad one. And then I had a good one, and it's just. The conversation is hilarious, it gets the best at the end and I'm not just click baiting you just to watch the whole thing.

Speaker 1: 16:30

I mean you're already here, fucker, so I already got you. But I hate when people do that on TikTok Like the best is at the end, but the best is actually at the end. So we kind of build a little rapport here and then yeah, so here's the fun ride. You're riding bitch.

Speaker 4: 16:46

Yeah, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, we're all brothers and sisters. Yeah, we love each other.

Speaker 3: 17:00

It's so annoying, you could throw a beautiful beard like you have God.

Speaker 1: 17:06

I mean that is a great beard. Yeah, you got your cram that you could have fucking sat in a car. Yeah, I'm really big.

Speaker 4: 17:11

I'm really big for our cold out right now With our peeps.

Speaker 1: 17:15

At least you love each other.

Speaker 3: 17:17

We love each other. Trust me, I'm from my mother.

Speaker 1: 17:24

Like 15 years, 15 years. How long it's not long it's down to my sternum.

Speaker 4: 17:34

Okay, so Jeff's down his chin.

Speaker 3: 17:37

You don't have to touch this.

Speaker 4: 17:39

You're like hey ask him if he wants to do that. Thank you, we need consent. Dammit, we're men, but we don't have feelings. Can I go to dad To pull my hands around your fucking beard? Well, when you say it like that, I'm going to say no, no shit.

Speaker 3: 18:01

Can I have a send to give you a job? Well done, sir Well done All right.

Speaker 4: 18:08

consent to give a hand job.

Speaker 1: 18:10

I'm going to say no to that too. Your husband probably went like that.

Speaker 4: 18:14

I'm horrible at him. Yeah, who wants?

Speaker 1: 18:16

a hand job anyway.

Speaker 3: 18:18

I'm married. We're past that.

Speaker 4: 18:21

Jeff, my husband is like this You're the worst at hand jobs.

Speaker 1: 18:25

No, as a guy too, even blow jobs.

Speaker 4: 18:27

I just want to have sex. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3: 18:32

That's bullshit.

Speaker 4: 18:33

You all are fast If it's good head.

Speaker 3: 18:36

I'll take it, but it's not usually good head.

Speaker 1: 18:40

Yeah, if it's a random blow job, I'll take it. But if we're going to bed to pull around like let's go.

Speaker 4: 18:50

You all be quiet right now. Jason you know what's fucking wrong with this world? What For a play. No, guys want to fucking make a job. No, I have trained myself.

Speaker 1: 19:02

My wife needs it.

Speaker 4: 19:04

I want it. I want to fucking kiss for 30 minutes.

Speaker 3: 19:08

That's it 30 minutes. I want you to be. I love you. I can do 3 minutes no problem 30 minutes of 4 play 30 minutes. I wish we were here with you.

Speaker 4: 19:26

I can't.

Speaker 3: 19:27

Brother, thank you for everything.

Speaker 4: 19:30

Good luck.

Speaker 3: 19:32

God damn it Fucking guys are lazy.

Speaker 4: 19:35

30 minutes is not lazy. 30 minutes is not lazy. Thank you guys, thank you.

Speaker 1: 19:46

All right, so that's a little bit more fun. I realized I missed a little blur at the end, which is nice, because I was gonna. I Realize how long that fucking thing is. I might trim that up before I post it to tic-tac, but yeah, so we talked about hand job. She was like it went from the guy hitting on me with the Must, the beer, the beer to her wanting to give me a hand job.

Speaker 3: 20:08

I'm like they're merit.

Speaker 1: 20:09

They're you're married. Yeah, like what is happening.

Speaker 2: 20:13

Yeah, yeah, you just never know what, what kind of, gonna come up in conversation, especially when people are out just having fun. I mean, you know, you never know.

Speaker 1: 20:23

Well, the fun part of it is is I rolled with it.

Speaker 2: 20:25

Yes, oh, you didn't miss a beat, man, you didn't miss a beat. No, that was awesome.

Speaker 1: 20:29

No, I was like. I was like because it was fun. Yeah, I'm like oh, most of my rides were just like my, how you doing. I'm like, oh, my god, I got a fun group, let's go.

Speaker 2: 20:39

Yeah, yeah, it's neat when you get those. I.

Speaker 1: 20:42

Might have. Honestly, if they would have said you want to come in a drink with us, I might have gone in there, had a drink with them, just one, and called it a night. But oh, I kept driving so Gotta make that mula. The funny part of that is is both those rides that, like the, the shitty one was after the good one, unfortunately, but they were like an hour apart.

Speaker 1: 21:02

Yeah and it's just like that's what can happen in the night. You can have like the funnest the funnest ride that's not even like a word funnest, but the the most fun ride and you can have just a terrible one, which I mean it obviously didn't become a ride, but yeah, and that can be back-to-back.

Speaker 2: 21:17

I mean, you never know, yeah, you can, and everything in between. You know, I said we see people at their best and we see people at their worst, and everything in between.

Speaker 1: 21:25

That's a real it. That's oh man, that's such a good statement. We see him at their best and they're worse, and everything in between. Yeah, that's like a good, that's a good sign off who. I like that, something like that. So verbal trademark Owned by lifting with Larry and the gig economy podcast.

Speaker 1: 21:42

So, Well, thank you for indulging me in the videos. I cut a lot out because the other one was well, some wasn't that long. I mean Pete will know it was from the Anchor bar to putt putt, so it was probably six minutes maybe, and I trimmed it down to like two and a half.

Speaker 2: 21:57

But One drink and then the hand out.

Speaker 1: 22:00

Yeah, that's true, good boy. I probably, I probably Should have. Yeah, that was probably good that I did it go in there, yeah probably Probably you know, yeah, yeah and that's one of those things you got to.

Speaker 2: 22:15

You know, if you're a new driver, you got to be prepared for people will? People will invite you in. Yeah, people will invite you in, for sure.

Speaker 1: 22:25

And you know, be prepared for, like you know, he Touching the beard like it is, it is a little weird. She didn't go too bad on it. I think part of it I cut out because they were saying some. It was just kind of repetitive so I cut it out. But there was a part of the video that I cut. She was really touching it. I was like Her brother was like hey, bro Like you can't just frickin do that, yeah, so speaking of touching things, no, that was a bad segue transition.

Speaker 1: 22:58

Kim with Kim side money plans. It was an incredible live streamer. Check her out. She's got a following of over 7,000 subscribers on YouTube, which is like ground-up shit. Kim, well done, well done it's. We're both starting to advertise together. She's advertising my show and I'm advertising her show. But check her out Anywhere you can get you podcast Kim side money plans and then obviously go to her YouTube channel. This Subscribe and the link is in the description. But great person. I've done streams with her with Steve from right here rodeo and she's always fun and we I, you know, we never connected on this and I meant she texted me today. I meant to to say this we both have an obsession with dr Pepper. Like I love dr Pepper, we always have it. Now I drink the dr Pepper zero because I'm a bitch, but we love it and she has, like I think, a dr Pepper fridge in her in her live streams or something like that too, but yeah, she's great.

Speaker 1: 24:01

I love her very good, very tips and tricks, does a lot of video content and then, like said, she's just starting a podcast. So, yeah, subscribe to her podcast and yeah, a lot of good content. Yes, all right, good economy. In the news, uber is finally profitable. Well, I think I don't know what the official statement was. I got to mute this site before it Probably plays some oh.

Speaker 1: 24:27

Don't you love it when you go to a science is on mute site? You've already been here and you muted it In a first for ubersense becoming a public company an annual profit. It posted its first full-year profit since going public in 2019. The stock hit an all-time high Wednesday. I actually do regularly buy uber stock. I know I'm a bitch. Let's see last year like last final, like it's final year as a private company, the last time we're uber turn to profit. I got a huge tail one from the investments that helped fuel profits 1 billion in 2023. So it's it's kind of good. I mean as much as they're, you know, not doing what they're supposed to be doing with, with drivers. I'm glad they're getting bigger, I guess. I don't know. Is that? Is that a positive thing, larry, that they're doing that?

Speaker 2: 25:13

I mean I think it's good that they're finally starting to show a profit. You know, it seems like for so long they were spending so much money on R&D trying to get into the Self-driving cars, getting the flying cars and you know, the taxis and everything. But I think they really refocused when the pandemic hit and they and they really had to yeah, they lost so much right share business. That's when they really pushed into food delivery and I think that's just that's really been what's helped them so much.

Speaker 1: 25:44

I think their food delivery, the money they make off food delivery, is what's helped them to be able to turn a profit one thing I was surprised about the article is that the, the, the analysts, noted that the growth in the company's membership platform so this is probably gonna be shocking Uber one now has roughly 19 million members across 25 countries. That was, that was mind-blowing to me.

Speaker 2: 26:09

I mean it does sound like a lot, but you got to remember how many countries they're in and how many pat. You know how many, how many customers, how many people all of the world use Uber.

Speaker 1: 26:18

I mean, yeah, it's a it's a lot. Well, they're revenue total 9.94 billion and beating Wall Street's prediction of 9.75 billion. So yeah, leave.

Speaker 2: 26:32

That's a lot of cheese, man.

Speaker 1: 26:34

Yeah, it's a lot of money. Yeah, I think it's kind of positive. I don't know, one of the CEOs I think it was Dara said that. Oh no, that was about the strike, which we'll talk about my yeah, never mind, fuck that.

Speaker 1: 26:50

That's about the strike. Who's talking about that? Well, we'll just jump into that. But basically, dara said about the strike that it's not really affecting business because drivers are making more money now than they ever have, and I'm like there's got to be a way he's skewing the numbers, because that literally is impossible. He's gonna have some sort of equation that he can show or something like that.

Speaker 1: 27:11

And yeah, yeah we'll want you to jump into that and see Any your feedback that you saw, and I mean you don't have to really read the article. I mean, if you want to, you can.

Speaker 2: 27:22

But yeah, well, I'll just talk about it basically. So we've all seen over the years people here they're talking about hey, you know, we're making less money, we need to go on strike this day or gone strike that day, but this one really seems to be the most organized one that that I've seen over the years. Agreed, it seems like it's happened, you know, not just the United States but some of the countries overseas as well. It seemed pretty organized and I Think most of the places I saw I know it at 20 of the major airports they were trying to have these protests and they were gonna. First I thought it was gonna be all day, but I think they were just focusing on a two-hour window for the most part. Oh yeah, I didn't know that till I read several stories and some of the articles mentioned that some of them didn't. So I Know you know they were reporting that some of the airports people were having trouble, you know, trying to get a ride. So I Don't know if to our window would is gonna do a whole lot in the grand scheme of things.

Speaker 2: 28:27

Yeah, the thing we always talk about is being there. We're all independent contractors. We don't have a union, we're not employees, we don't, you know generally, we don't feel, like you know, as much as a connection maybe to drivers in other cities. You know, like you know. Hey, you know, I, when I drive I make. I make decent money. If I didn't, I wouldn't be doing it.

Speaker 4: 28:52

Exactly.

Speaker 2: 28:53

I, so we, you know, I don't think any of us have felt a huge tug to promote you know, these protests or strikes, whatever you want to call it, but saying that I did not drive today.

Speaker 1: 29:07

Not me either.

Speaker 2: 29:09

And we'll not, probably won't not drive tonight, because not only are we, we have in this podcast, it's obviously Valentine's evening and it's my ninth wedding anniversary as well. So, oh well, happy anniversary, thank you. Thank you very much. Nine years ago, I somehow talked my beautiful wife into saying I do so.

Speaker 1: 29:28

Must have been real drunk.

Speaker 2: 29:28

I don't know, something slipped her mickey, you know. So yeah, I think this, like I said, I think this was the most organized I've ever seen it, but whether it's going to have any impact I kind of have my doubts. You know, I surely do.

Speaker 1: 29:44

Well, it had a little impact. If the CEO is talking about it, I mean even mentioning it if someone wanted to interview him. I mean, that's somewhat of an impact. I saw a little bit of chatter about some small surges or anything, but I didn't see anything like like, oh my gosh, this is out of control. So, right, I definitely support people that do it. I think if it's important to you you know that's why we live in this country right, you have the right to do that.

Speaker 3: 30:13

And if it.

Speaker 1: 30:13

you know, if you feel like it was effective, then I'm happy for you. Yeah, you know, I just I don't think it.

Speaker 2: 30:21

just I think it can be effective, but not, not everyone's got to do it and no, and not everyone's got to do it and yeah, I don't think there's a way ever, because you know, whenever it gets announced on there, you always see on the Facebook, you know they'll, somebody will talk about the strike and invariably there's a bunch of people like that's great man, I want to be out there making all the money when you're all are striking, because I'm working, you know, I got bills to pay, you know.

Speaker 1: 30:44

Yeah, yeah. So Gary said his mark had zero search. I doubt anyone did it here. I mean, yeah, I think it depends on what city you're in.

Speaker 2: 30:53

Yeah, I know they were trying to hit some of the bigger cities Chicago and, you know, dallas and Atlanta and some places like that.

Speaker 1: 31:02

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the the answer is for the low wages, I don't know. I think back to many times I have thought about completely quitting, like lawn care, which I have done, but just going completely gig work. And then I'm thinking, oh man, I don't know, like now I'm thinking, like I think that would be a grind. I mean Gabe, for whatever reason in the market he's in, he's able to make it work, but I don't think it would work in the Grand Rapids market.

Speaker 2: 31:31

Yeah, and I was talking, I was talking with my wife today. We were talking a little bit, you know, she was asking me what you know some of the things we were talking about on the show tonight, and I mentioned the strike and I was like, you know, what other job do you know about where you get paid less every year? Yeah, and I mean, that's really, that's just true, you know.

Speaker 1: 31:53

Well, I think, I think that uniqueness of this job is people do it because of the flexibility.

Speaker 2: 31:57

Exactly. They're not having a boss they're willing to take. That's the trade off, yeah.

Speaker 1: 32:02

They're willing to take a little less money to be able to work whenever they want.

Speaker 2: 32:07

And whatever fits their schedule, you know.

Speaker 1: 32:10

And I'm okay with that. I just think at some point you know you've got to. Still, you just can't be stupid about it, like you have to be smarter now than than for. You know when you and I started right you couldn't.

Speaker 1: 32:22

You couldn't just you know you can't just drive whenever you want to do so. Mark got paid less when his raise was less than that I think a lot of people. His cost of living increase was pretty high. So people do it because it requires no skill and it's easy. But I don't think it's easy. I think I think if you're going to make a little money on it, it's not easy. You have to really think about it and like, not just drive whenever you really have to strategize and stuff like that. But it does. I mean you say it doesn't require any skills, gary, but how many videos do I see people putting their fucking deliveries in front of where the door opens?

Speaker 1: 33:01

It's like every day I see like hey, look at what this dumbass did. And I'm like, oh my God, I mean, it's common sense. I just would like. It's like the kids on my bus that keep doing the same thing. I just do this with my, my forehead. I'm just like you guys, it's not that hard.

Speaker 2: 33:18

My head's going to explode.

Speaker 1: 33:20

All right. Moving on, this is a kind of a PSA. If you say you're going to tip your rideshare driver, this might happen to you if you do that, so just be careful.

Speaker 3: 33:31

Uber for Brian. Hey, do you think we can make an extra stop? Yeah, I don't mind at all, I'll take care of you in the app. All right, here we are, brian. What was your name? Again John. Thank you so much, john. Hey, brian, real quick, you know. You said you were going to take care of me. Yeah, I told you I would take care of you. I promise I will. I cannot let you out of this car until you tip me. I told you I would take care of you. I promise I will.

Speaker 3: 33:57

You know how many passengers tell me they're going to tip me or take care of me and I never see it. I'm not like other passengers. I'm done getting finessed by riders. John, let me out of the car. Dude, you can either tip me or I can drive you out in the middle of nowhere. I can drop you off and you can find your way back to downtown. What's your Venmo handle? If you say you're going to tip your driver, then tip your driver at the end of the trip. That's really your handle. Pretty good, right, it's sent, just got it. Thank you so much, brian. Have a great day.

Speaker 1: 34:32

So I missed that part at the end I missed that. I thought it was going to make a more of a comic turn and be like him on zipping his pants. I thought that's what it was going to be. As soon as he locked the door, I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 2: 34:49

Dude, you're still thinking about that hand job, come on.

Speaker 1: 34:52

Yeah, he wants a hand job. That's what he wants. He's like if you're not going to give me a tip on the app, you're going to give me a hand job. Oh, that was so good.

Speaker 2: 35:01

So we're not saying that we recommend doing this locking your passengers in the car by any means, but I mean we literally had this happen over the weekend.

Speaker 1: 35:10

I took a drunk ass guy, stopped at the gas station for him. He's like I'm going to tip you real good. Dropping off of the hotel Never saw a fucking dime, but I do need to start reminding people when they do say that, when they get out, because I think they say they're going to do it right and they're drunk, and then we start having conversation about everything and then they realize the whole.

Speaker 1: 35:30

Yeah, I'm at the hotel, I'm good. And then I need to say, hey, just remember. You said you're going to tip me, well yeah.

Speaker 2: 35:38

You got to say something like hey, yeah, I appreciate that tip. You said you're going to give me a thing. I appreciate you. Yeah, I'm through on that.

Speaker 1: 35:45

Yeah, something like that. Yeah, for sure, larry, robo Taxi is our favorite thing.

Speaker 2: 35:51

Yes, so this is one of the reasons why I never know if these Robo cars are ever going to take hold. So in this article I don't know if you have a picture for it or not- I do not.

Speaker 2: 36:03

Okay, so in this article this happened in San Francisco and San Francisco's Chinatown the other day. So it's a Waymo car autonomous car. It went up in flames in San Francisco, chinatown after a crowd surrounded it, scrawled graffiti on it, smashed the windows and then threw fireworks inside the driverless vehicle. And if you can see the picture of this, I mean this car is just burnt, smacked up. I mean it is burned down. There's like nothing left but a little bit of the frame. People are messing, they like to mess with these autonomous cars. We've seen the ones in the past where you know the people will set the traffic cones on the hood and the car freaks out and doesn't, you know, just stops and know what to do. We just wonder what's going to stop people from doing stuff like this and messing with these cars.

Speaker 1: 36:55

Yeah, yeah, if you look at the car, because I'm a professional.

Speaker 3: 36:59

I got the picture up Like how melted down it is.

Speaker 2: 37:01

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:02

Yeah, those, and that's an electric car too, right.

Speaker 2: 37:06

Yeah, I believe so.

Speaker 1: 37:08

Yeah, those electric cars are tough to put out fires. In fact the fire department has to have they developed some sort of blanket of some sort to throw over these electric cars, because it gets up to like what, 5,000 degrees or something like that. Yeah, they really can't put it out.

Speaker 2: 37:24

Let's see, looking through the earthquake. It doesn't say if it's electric or not, but it just says it's. Yeah, it's the driverless car, robotaxi yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:33

I feel like a lot of those are electric, but man, that thing's fucked up.

Speaker 2: 37:37

Oh man, yeah, they burn it up, yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:39

Yeah, I don't know how you prevent that. I mean, like you said, we've talked about it before, about putting cones on it and it disturbs their self-driving. I mean, like I don't know how you prevent it. It gets to the point where you're going to have to have somebody ride around it and it kind of defeats the purpose of self-driving.

Speaker 2: 37:54

Yeah, it really defeats the purpose of the whole thing. If you're going to have somebody in the car, then they might as well just drive the car. But I don't know what the answer is. I mean, we've seen how rowdy crowds and people are getting in general these days in some of these big cities. Yeah, they're doing these takeovers of stores where the big mob runs in and just smashing crab and take whatever they want. So what's going to stop them from doing something like this to a driverless car?

Speaker 1: 38:22

Did you see what happened in Kansas City today?

Speaker 2: 38:24

I did see. I haven't read too much about it. I saw the headlines flash up but yeah, what was it? 20 people shot and one.

Speaker 1: 38:31

Oh, is it that I didn't read it? But like they labeled it as like a mass shooting, yeah, I think it was 22 shot, eight people dead.

Speaker 4: 38:39

No way, holy shit. I believe that.

Speaker 2: 38:42

That was at the parade right. I heard it was near the parade, I don't know if it was connected to the parade.

Speaker 1: 38:48

I didn't read the article. Of course, typical Jason, he reads the headlines and doesn't read the article. But man, I didn't know it was that many that's. Yeah, I just pulled it up for quick says one dead, 22 injured at near chief Superbowl rally.

Speaker 2: 39:02

So I haven't read it enough to see you, to see if it was connected or just happened to be in the same.

Speaker 1: 39:08

Well, at least it's one dead. I know it's still bad but you were like eight dead.

Speaker 2: 39:12

I'm like oh sorry, dead, yeah, sorry, yeah, that's clickbait, clickbait.

Speaker 1: 39:19

Yeah, no kidding. So all right, moving on, this is kind of a interesting story. Actually, in Seattle this guy created his own food delivery service and I kind of like his, his gumption, but I just it's not gonna work. Basically, he calls a service Tony delivers, and I don't know if his name is actually Tony. Let me look in the article. Anyways, I get why I'm looking for the name is because you know Tony from Door dash. So I wonder if he named it Tony delivers because of you know Tony, what's his name? That owns door dash.

Speaker 2: 40:00

But anyways, so this is Tony, tony off Former who reads driver.

Speaker 1: 40:06

Yeah, I don't know. I couldn't find it, but it's called Tony delivers. You could probably look it up. So I think the big problem in Seattle is they're adding extra fees now for the, the minimum wage. So they're adding Like a regulatory fee of five or five bucks on each order plus the delivery fee, service charges, high many prices and tip. So I mean at some point it's gonna get out of order. Out of out of what am I trying to say? It's gonna get to the point where people aren't gonna order it anymore. I don't know what word I was trying to say.

Speaker 2: 40:38

Yeah, especially economy gets bad, we start having some hard times people.

Speaker 1: 40:43

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 40:44

I would you think that would. That would get cut out pretty quick.

Speaker 1: 40:46

So. So this guy his website's not bad, it's called Tony delivers. He delivers everything for five bucks and he has a zone, his website has a picture of where he delivers and he goes I'll deliver from any restaurant on this map to any destination on this map for five dollars. It's funny he says he's featured on reddit, geek wire and a couple other places was interesting. So this is where it gets clunky. So it's just him, right. So he delivers from 11 am To 2 and 5 to 8 daily. So that's, you know, that's during rush hour. Text me your name, address in restaurant. So already.

Speaker 1: 41:22

Yeah clunky as fuck. I'll text you back the wait time. Usually you can order right away. Order your food on the restaurant's website by selecting pick up or takeout, and I'll deliver your food. I'll meet you in the lobby outside the building. You can pay with Apple pay, google cat, google pay or cash, so I Mean.

Speaker 2: 41:37

So I guess Tony pays for the food up front and then always oh, you'd have to I mean.

Speaker 1: 41:44

No, it says order your food on the restaurant's website by selecting pick up or take out. Okay, yeah, that makes more so they order it yeah.

Speaker 3: 41:51

I was gonna say fuck.

Speaker 1: 41:52

No that would be stupid. Yes, it would be. But he said can I trust you to deliver before starting? Tony delivers. I made nine 9197 successful Uber Eats deliveries and hell satisfaction rate of 98%. I'm a confident that I can deliver your food for cheaper and faster than anyone else. Tony always delivers with enthusiasm. It's raining outside this. Tony deliver in the rain, yes, and he's loving it. So I mean good for him. I like this. I mean I hope he can get some sort of at build. I don't know what it is. I mean, if you can build relationships with these people, then it, then it's fine, right. Once you like get repeat customers, then it's. Then it's not clunky, right, cuz the person likes how it works. But we need something, man. These fees are right, fucking.

Speaker 2: 42:42

I just wonder though. I mean, how many deliveries can he make in an hour?

Speaker 1: 42:45

That's the thing too. Like I mean, are you, is he?

Speaker 2: 42:47

yeah, I mean cuz you know how it is with some of the restaurants I mean yeah, I have to wait five or ten minutes and by the time he delivered. I mean.

Speaker 1: 42:56

Well, I think right now it's so small. It's not a big deal for him and in fact he's probably still doing Uber Eats. I mean he and let you know we could get him on the show and interview him and be it'd be interesting conversation. But, but yeah, I mean I'm sure it's he's doing and he's he's multi-app With his own service and Uber Eats. I mean there's no way there's no way.

Speaker 2: 43:19

There's a. Yeah, when I first Was thinking about doing food delivery, there's one here in Bowling Green, a company it's called takeout waiter and it's pretty popular and I'd heard about, so I stopped by their office to you know, see what it took to sign up and everything, and At that time I'm sure they've changed right now, but at that time, like if you wanted to, if you wanted to go on, if you wanted to, you know, start, instead of just Having an app you turn on, you you had to call in and tell the owner, okay, I'm working, you know, and they would clock you in and and same thing when you're done. You had to call in and and so, like I, I sat there for the 15 minutes, feel about it, and, you know, went through kind of the sign up. I'm like I'm never doing this?

Speaker 1: 44:03

No, I'm never doing this. It did you not do it because it was like just because you had to check in with them, or yeah, like it was gonna be a disaster.

Speaker 2: 44:12

Yeah, I just thought it was gonna be. Yeah, you know crazy, but but I have talked to one or you know one or two people who work with it. They were, they were pretty happy with it, you know I.

Speaker 1: 44:23

Don't know how he tracks you. If you, yeah, that says some, I'm sure yeah exactly.

Speaker 2: 44:28

You know, I'm sure they've got something, probably now. But yeah, then it seemed very conky, but it was kind of in there. It was before the pandemic, so he's really before the food delivery push and back when we all hated doing food delivery. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 44:44

Earlier in the chat. Wade was one of my friends, actually from way back in the day he worked. I'm pretty sure it's him. I'm sure he's still not online, but he worked for one of those companies too. I'm pretty sure it was him. Anyways, doesn't?

Speaker 1: 44:59

really matter, but yeah, those were around here too. Before you know, the food delivery really popped off. I'm sure they're gone now. But yeah, and in today's day and age, if he could get somebody To build an app, I mean or figure it out himself, go to YouTube and code it yourself, or something like that.

Speaker 1: 45:19

Like, if you can just get something simple where you can pay on there or at least like I don't know where you're, I don't know, I don't know anything about that shit. So he could stream on the process quite a bit.

Speaker 2: 45:28

Yeah, yeah, even if you could, even if he got like a texting service.

Speaker 1: 45:33

You know, a lot of times people like they'll text you and you can pay for it right through text or whatever like that. But I don't know shit about that stuff, so but I give him props for doing it. I mean, if he can if he can keep it up at five bucks. I mean, I'm assuming he'll get tips from them too. Yeah, I would assume so. I would assume so.

Speaker 2: 45:53

But but five bucks just seems too cheap.

Speaker 1: 45:55

But then you know he can, he can start building his client.

Speaker 2: 45:58

We start getting busier than he can. Start having some subcontractors. Yeah he's managing everything. Tony's not working, tony's not having to go out and pick up food anymore. Yeah, I mean it's not a bad thought. I mean, if he can keep it, keep up with it and keep his cost low.

Speaker 1: 46:14

It's possible. Yeah, we need. We need some competitors. You watch, in two years we're gonna be talking about him. He's gonna be the new. It's gonna be Tony delivers. We'll be seeing the Tony delivers ad on the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2: 46:25

Yeah, yeah, for sure, speaking of ads that weren't on the Super Bowl, milton.

Speaker 1: 46:28

Tech, maximo, driver utility helper and flex alert. Flex alert is for Amazon Flex, which we don't talk about a lot because I haven't done it in a hot second, the rates have been poor. But drive utility helper is for DoorDash and Maximals for Uber, lyft and Grubhub Basically, fully customizable apps for those platforms other than Amazon and be able to Auto accept, auto decline, set up different parameters how far you want to drive to get a ride. I used it all weekend, especially with Lyft, because they want to fucking send you to the next county to pick people up. So yeah, it just automatically declines that I don't have to do anything. It's fucking amazing. It's worth every penny, the low price of like $5 a month for Maximo and I think it's 10 for driver utility helper. So so cut out. Let's cut out one of your Tony's deliveries and you can pay for it.

Speaker 2: 47:24

There you go, there you go and the driver to you know those, those costs.

Speaker 1: 47:27

You can use those as deductions Like those are definitely things you can use on deduction. So, even if you use both of them for $15 a month to to not have to take a ride, even if you use both of them for $15 a month, to not have to touch your phone as much and keep you safe around the road Is great, especially door-dash, because, like Makes, you do like all kinds of different clicks just to cancel a order, decline in order. So, larry, tell me about this Lyft Oops, that made some money. Gary was talking about it earlier.

Speaker 2: 48:01

Yeah. So you know, some earnings reports came out yesterday and lifts earning report came out and it was Unexpectedly much better than everyone was thinking it was gonna be and their stock price shot up about 70%.

Speaker 1: 48:17

Wow 70s. I got some lift stock too. I should look at that I think.

Speaker 2: 48:21

I think I think that's what it was it was. I forget what it was trading at originally, but it shot up to like $19 and 70 cents. Yeah, it was trading about $12 during the day. So it says I went up about 62%. But then then somebody noticed oh hey, somebody added an extra zero onto this number, showing that it went up.

Speaker 1: 48:48

How does that happen?

Speaker 2: 48:50

instead of 50 base points. Yeah, somebody, somebody need to get fired over this. I mean yeah, don't they have someone checking it. You would have think so, I mean like a double check. So but it's probably done by AI. That's probably what happened.

Speaker 1: 49:06

God, that would be ridiculous if it was. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 49:09

But yeah, so, so then. So then their stock started coming back down and people were I'm sure we're in a huge uproar about this whole situation.

Speaker 1: 49:19

Yeah, so so it was their earning reports like Uber, right.

Speaker 2: 49:24

Yeah, it said at the in the original earning statement. Lyft estimated the gross margin would expand by 500 basis points, which is 5 percentage points. That sent the company stock shooting high.

Speaker 1: 49:37

I don't know what the points mean. I just I'm like did they hit their numbers? Like they're so they may not say that.

Speaker 2: 49:43

It said, lyft appeared to include an errant zero and extra zero in its numbers. Their actual estimate is much lower, at 50 basis points, which is only half a percentage point. So on the earnings call, which is held shortly after the brush relieved, the chief financial officer provided the correct estimate. So, yeah, the stock went up from $12 to $1970. And then afterwards it dramatically started going back down, but it still ended up like 18% for the day.

Speaker 1: 50:15

So it's not horrible yeah.

Speaker 2: 50:18

Says. Overall, they reported a 17% year over year increase in gross bookings and revenue of 1.2 billion, which is a 4% year over year increase.

Speaker 1: 50:28

I hope Lyft stays around. We need the competition, but it's going to be tough.

Speaker 2: 50:32

I mean it says you know, even in the article it says uh, the Rideshark company continues to burn through cash. On Tuesday, lyft reported a net loss of 340.3 million for the full year 2023.

Speaker 1: 50:46

So 300 million loss. I feel like that's better than it's been. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 50:50

Oh 2022,. It lost 1.6 billion Holy shit.

Speaker 1: 50:55

So even though they still lost, that's a huge gain back. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 50:58

That's way, that's way better. 340 million versus 1.2 billion. Yeah, that's, uh, that's significant for sure.

Speaker 1: 51:06

I wish I knew how finance work. Like are they getting money from investors to keep that afloat? Like I mean, obviously they got money coming in their cash flow for like rides and shit. I just don't understand how that. I don't know. I don't understand how that, how a company can do that.

Speaker 2: 51:17

Yeah, I mean where else? I mean they have to have operating capital and if they're, losing it much. So yeah, they've got to be getting money from somewhere. Yeah, but they're, you know they're cooking the books.

Speaker 1: 51:29

Probably, probably, got some crazy accountant. Yeah, couple more things before we end the show and hop into the Patreon, which is at 910 tonight. If, like I said, if you are a Patreon member, uh, in the higher tier it's uh, it's a $10 tier you get unfiltered access.

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Speaker 1: 52:08

I'm going to say something appropriate that won't be a look at your wife's face when she comes to the picnic Yep. Uh, all right speaking of speaking of getting lucky. I did not even try this segue. Like normally, I will work on segues. I didn't even I forgot about this one. It's a 12 second video of this door dash driver delivering food and he he, he misspoke.

Speaker 2: 52:28

I don't want a perfect fit, yeah.

Speaker 1: 52:30

He misspoke the woman, thinking she was calling him in.

Speaker 4: 52:34

My wardrobe. Thank you, Quick human. Oh no, I was talking to the doctor, I closed my door too. Sorry, oh, oh oh no, he thought it was going to be like dear penthouse.

Speaker 2: 52:54

I was delivering food.

Speaker 3: 52:57

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2: 52:58

Yeah, yeah, you can see it caught him by surprise. He was like yeah, I'll come in.

Speaker 1: 53:05

She was talking to the dog oh yeah, Okay, oh, and you can just see his face Like oh shatter versus bloom. He's probably. He's probably a little quiet maybe and, like you know, he likes video game. Just like you know quiet dude and he's like, oh man, this is my shot. I've read about this. Yeah, ty says Ty say Vader for our voice. What does he say Um Luke?

Speaker 3: 53:33

I am your father Now that's not Vader.

Speaker 1: 53:36

I really like if I in the morning my wife always says oh my god, you need to go record some voiceovers because it's like even lower than that.

Speaker 2: 53:43

Yeah, mindless to you, you got. You got all that drainage and stuff from the night. Yeah, and your voice is really yeah really really, really low.

Speaker 1: 53:51

We'll just do this reddit one and then get out of here.

Speaker 2: 53:54

Okay, uh, let me see. Was this the uh Uber pet? Yeah, so, uh, as a reddit post it says, I ordered Uber pet for a friend. This morning. He calls and says the driver refused to give him a ride because, in quotes, your dog sheds too much. I texted to get clarification on what was going on. He read it and ignored me and a new driver was assigned.

Speaker 2: 54:16

And the guy asked does that not tell you if you're accepting a ride with a pet? How in the world is this acceptable? Yeah, and uh, if you've got Uber pet turned on, which you have to turn it on, it doesn't, you know, correct, it's, it's an option, it's a little slider. We got an option to turn it off or on. If you turn it on, then I mean what do you expect Dog? You know some dog shit. So if you're going to have Uber pet, I mean I would just recommend you keep like a nice blunt, you know, blanket or something. Yeah, I have a, I think, a tarp in the back of my car because I've I take dogs even though I have a tarp.

Speaker 1: 54:53

Yeah, like a plastic tarp. Uh well, no, it's not like a tarp, it's more canvas.

Speaker 2: 55:00

Yeah, yeah, kind of like. Yeah, it's for bodies, yeah, well shh.

Speaker 1: 55:03

So I disagree. I think you can accept or decline anything you want. If I've done, I did it a couple of months ago the lady she straight up was a fucking husky, just like this. I swear to God I didn't post this, but uh, or it doesn't say husky, but she's like well, it was weird, cause she, she requests an Uber pet. I pull up and she doesn't have a dog. And then when she got in, she's like I need to add if you remember that I need to add another step.

Speaker 3: 55:29

Well, I said, what kind of dog, is it?

Speaker 1: 55:31

And she said, and husky. And I said no, thank you, I think it's okay. Like you can have it. Like I took a dog the other night on lift it wasn't even Uber, they don't have lift pet. He was like I have a small dog, he won't bother anybody, yeah, and I'm like all right, it's a small dog. And it ended up being a short haired. Uh, some dog, and he was. I never heard a peep out of them. You know what I mean. So it's like I still feel it's up to the driver. Well, no, I, I agree 100%.

Speaker 2: 55:56

I mean any ride, any ride is is up to the driver If you don't want to take it to, whatever reason, because, like, like what we say, we're independent contractors. You know, we, we, it's our car, we decide what. What goes or not.

Speaker 1: 56:08

Um well, this guy and there's a lot of um, you know, saying you need to do it like you said. But then this guy he like talks himself into a corner and the whole thing he says, yeah, I literally have a blanket like thing in my trunk Uh, not a tarp in case I pull up and I do see that your dog, that, I think, is going to be a whole mess. I can throw it down. You shouldn't turn on Uber pet if you aren't prepared for your average pet. I will admit, I never. I am never accepting another Uber pet from a doggy beach again. But it's still whole different from not accepting to showing up. So he's literally saying like right, he's not, you should if you're not going to take it. But then he's like well, I'm not doing the doggy beach.

Speaker 1: 56:45

He's like yeah, Sir, sir, no man Can't say say both ways, yes, what?

Speaker 2: 56:49

is a doggy beach, so you're going to have sand all over your car.

Speaker 1: 56:53

Yeah, but I mean again, I, I think you can decline, Like if it's a little, uh, lap dog, you know you're going to have to have a dog and it's a little dog that's in a purse, I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 2: 57:03

Sure, yeah, like I said, we don't even have a Uber pet here, but I've taken numerous animals over the years. But I will you know if it's something I think is going to shed or something I will. I will like something on the seeds.

Speaker 1: 57:15

Yeah, that's probably smart, but all right. Last thing I don't know if you guys saw the DoorDash promo for the Superbowl and uh, so I read it wrong in my head. I, I, I saw the ad and and I read it as when everything in all the Superbowl ads. So I thought it was all the ads on the Superbowl, like the car ads.

Speaker 2: 57:37

Yes, it was.

Speaker 1: 57:39

So according to this article, it wasn't. Oh really, yes, according to now. This is from a site that probably is giving me a virus. It's called odds checkercom, so it could be complete shit, but but basically says you can win everything shown in the Superbowl DoorDash commercial.

Speaker 2: 58:00

Oh.

Speaker 1: 58:01

Yeah, so you can win Popeye chicken, oreos, starry Reese's PCs drumsticks, 30 pound bucket of mayonnaise, 23 bags of nerd gummies. So, according to this website, it is just the stuff that was in the ad, because I was like, holy shit, they're going to give away a car.

Speaker 2: 58:20

Three cars? There would have been three.

Speaker 1: 58:22

Yeah, Well, yeah whatever it was like. I mean, I don't even remember all the ads, but so yeah, I'm like this is dumb. Do I really want a 30 pound? 30 pound bucket of mayonnaise, a Budweiser Clydesdale saddle, a Mickelob ultra cooler, 60 bottles of Mountain Dew Baja Blast?

Speaker 2: 58:43

There we go. That's the winner right there.

Speaker 1: 58:46

That would put me over the top.

Speaker 2: 58:47

Winner, winner chicken dinner.

Speaker 1: 58:49

Right there, let's see a thousand Popeye chicken wings which a company says it can be redeem at your convenience. Now, granted, like I said, maybe I'm wrong, maybe this website's wrong, because Larry and I both had the idea that it wasn't. It was everything I was like, damn, that's a good that's. You know, that could be like $500,000 worth of prizes.

Speaker 2: 59:10

I'm going to investigate this. I looked at our article and it was before it happened and it said it said DoorDash says that it will likely include up to six vehicles, $50,000 cash, $2,000.

Speaker 1: 59:23

Maybe this article is bullshit.

Speaker 2: 59:26

Well, I'm going to investigate that. I'm going to investigate that, are you?

Speaker 1: 59:30

going to investigate and follow up on the next show Because we know you have to be a patron to hear we're going to talk about it. Oh, what a tease from the. Larry, mr Larry Duncan getting getting his hosting skills out, so there you go.

Speaker 1: 59:46

Well, guys, thank you so much. It was a fun show. I appreciate you watching the videos I get. Like Larry said, tonight at 910, we're going to be on the Patreon. So if you're on the $10 tier, hop in and we'll. Larry will give you the answer, which is correct, or if that site is janky, which I'm leaning towards that go to patreoncom, slash the gig count podcast.

Speaker 1: 1:00:08

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