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Hi guys, welcome to the gig economy podcast episode. I'm going to be talking about the new host, Mr Larry Duncan Not new anymore. I think this is our what Third week already.
Speaker 3:Third week already, Damn it flies, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:It flies, bro, it flies, it does. It's crazy. Well, thank you guys for joining us. If you want to know a little bit more about us and the host and the show, go to gig economy showcom. There you'll find all the news and you can download the podcast there, or any podcast platform that your little heart desires. I want to thank our Patreon members. I've got to do Larry one more time.
Speaker 4:Larry from More time.
Speaker 1:No, I think it's two more times, because I think next Wednesday is still February, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah there you go.
Speaker 1:Larry from Bowling Green, Samson from Grand.
Speaker 1:Rapids, steve from Colorado, bud Dickman from North Carolina, omar from Detroit, deliverycats from Michigan, jamie from Tennessee, frank from Philly, nate from Florida, john M from California, Tom from Chicago and Jim from Connecticut. Thank you guys so much for supporting the show. If you want to support the show, go to patreoncom. Slash the gig econ podcast. There you can sign up, get an extra podcast a month, exclusive piece of merch on the third month and then you also get a pre-show banter, which us rambling. That's usually what it is. Sometimes it gets off the rails.
Speaker 3:Sometimes, yeah, you never know what we're going to say or what topic is going to come up.
Speaker 1:I'm going to continue the tradition to say sometimes Larry doesn't wear pants, but I can't see that anymore, so unfortunately-.
Speaker 3:I'm not standing up.
Speaker 1:You're not standing up, so yeah, go to patreoncom search the gig econ podcast if you want to support this stupid show. Also, telegram thank you for the people that have joined recently. Telegram is like WhatsApp or kick See my camera's. Like cutting my head off here, that's going to bug me. There we go. Join that. You can talk with other gig workers around the world. I say because we have one fan from New Zealand. Yeah, that New Zealand. Yeah, it's a great community, little chatty on the weekends, but that's what it's supposed to be right.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's great. It's a good way to stay in contact with other people who know your struggle and bounce ideas or just vent to each other and complain about the lousy bonuses they give or don't give or the way they screw us over.
Speaker 1:No, they would never do that.
Speaker 1:No, never never, so I do not have any stories from the road, but my bonuses this weekend. So we have winter beer fest here in Grand Rapids. It used to be a whole weekend thing. I think it was so much debauchery I think they decided to stop doing that. People just got too shit-faced and so they've become more strict on it. So it's just Saturday, which I'm okay with, so my quests were a little not great. So Uber's is 60 trips for $50 or 50 trips for $40. Basically, if you do everything on either one of them, you get a dollar a ride, so $71.
Speaker 3:Which is what mine is. Of course, we only get the lift bonus, and mine was a big whopping $40 for 40 rides for the top tier and $25 for 30 rides, or I believe it was $15 for 20 rides.
Speaker 1:Is it because lift is just so not as popular? Are you? Would you struggle to get those 40 rides this weekend?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I mean, usually it's the same thing. It's usually a 40 ride bonus, but it's like sometimes it's like $180.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So it's like $160, which is what it was last week. I think it was $4 extra ride. Yeah, $1 extra ride.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you're going to go out and drive, it's fine, but I feel like when it's so low, you're probably going to multi-app, you're not going to just stay on one app.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I can really really not really ever just stick to a single app here. It's just. I mean we have enough downtime even running both of them. Oh wow, it's just a really big day, like New Year's Eve or St Patrick's Day or something.
Speaker 1:My lift bonus is 85 rides for 260. Now, to put that in perspective, last weekend I had that giant, or not. Last weekend, the weekend before, I had that giant, one which I knew I wasn't going to get, but my half tier was 45 rides for 272. So this one is like 45, 55, 65, 75, 80. 40 more rides and $12 less dollars. Yeah, sign me up. So, needless to say, I will not be doing any quests, but I will be working this weekend. Larry, do you got any stories from last weekend at all, or last week, cause you drive during the week too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I think this was the ones from last Saturday. I was taking a passenger home, nice guy. You know, probably in the early 20s we were talking. We come around the corner to where his house is right around the corner. We pull around this corner. His house is on the right, like not directly across from his house but directly over in, like one house up like eight, nine cop cars. Lights are on everywhere on the ground. They have like just a bunch of those markers you see they put down to mark where shell casings are and turns out some dude popped off 11 shots across the street at his neighbor.
Speaker 3:Luckily nobody got hit, nobody got hurt. But he he went to jail.
Speaker 1:So it was a little, a little scary pulling up, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:We pull around and I was like dude, I would hustle in the house. He's like, nah, I'm, I'm, I'm on my way, Like I pulled up. I pulled up in the driveway close to his doors I could get him, and he hopped out and then I was, I got the hell out.
Speaker 1:So do you? Do you routinely pull up to people's, into people's driveways when you're dropping off at night? If I'm dropping, off.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, if I'm picking up, I mean if it's after about 10 o'clock. No, because we all know that sometimes the navigation is not great and you're at the wrong house and I want to be sending somebody's driveway through. You know two in the morning, maybe the wrong driveway, because that's a good way to get shot.
Speaker 1:I find myself not pulling into the driveway at all unless it's like a nice wide one and I know I'm not going to like. Well, I mean, I also have my tinted windows, like the FBI, so it's hard for me to even turn into a driveway at night without me rolling the window down. So that's part of it.
Speaker 1:But I find if I get right close, I just like I just drop them off in the road, unless it's, like I said, a nice wide driveway where I can just pull in and not worry about any other cars and backing out and stuff like that yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean and usually the only reason I won't if it looks, you just get a weird feeling about something, or if it's it's like a steep one where I'm going to bottom out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm like, yeah, you're going to have to get out here, man yeah. That's taking the bottom of my car for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm making four bucks off this ride.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean door-to-door service is a little, yeah, but Like half my rides are, are college kids anyway.
Speaker 3:So there's no driveway, it's just the dorm, you know the the circle driveway or the parking space or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how good is your GPS in there? I know like when we first started out like apartments and stuff like that, it was sketch.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, it really was Cause back then. A lot of times, especially on Uber, it didn't have a little indicator showing you the person.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It would just take you to like if it was an apartment, it would usually take you to the office. But now almost every ride you know mind shows a little indicator little, I think. On Uber it's blue indicator for where the person actually is, so that helps out tremendously. Of course Lyft, I think, has always always done that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just going to say Lyft was kind of the game changer with that. That's one thing I always as much as Lyft riders tend to be not as I don't know, I don't want to not say that is it just it's a lot of more errand runs and running to work on Lyft.
Speaker 3:But anyways, I always appreciated that cause, like, and they had to turn it on or maybe they didn't with Lyft, but I know Uber people can have it off cause I there are bright, that's why sometimes I don't see it, but it I mean, you get to some of these apartment complexes and there's, you know, 15 apartment buildings and you, you know, and you just have to call them or text them and if they don't answer, you know, you send up canceling their ride.
Speaker 1:Here's another question that just popped up because of that If you have a pin right here and the person's like three buildings over, do you go to the person or you go to the pen?
Speaker 3:I usually go straight to the person, but if they're not, if they don't come out a minute or so, I'm going to go to the pen, so it'll start the timer.
Speaker 1:That's the problem.
Speaker 3:Lyft now, then Lyft here. I don't have to, it doesn't matter, I can start it anywhere with Lyft.
Speaker 1:Well, it gives you a prompt right. It says GPS is wrong, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Did the person? Yeah, Did they walk to you? Or you know you maps are wrong, something like that. But yeah, if it's because that, yeah, that has caused problems before with Uber, because you know the person's way over there and the pins on the other side of the complex, you pull up there and it's been like two minutes and they're not coming out. You're like I got to go to the pen and start this timer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, In fact that night that I had that guy that hit my car when I went around, whipped around the corner. It wouldn't let me cancel for money because I wasn't close enough there. But I didn't care at that point.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that was the least on your mind, right?
Speaker 1:there so hot, that was so hot, yeah, yeah. And then looks like you had another one with a. You brought a dancer home.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we have a club here. I mean people call it a strip club. It's not a strip club. They won't let them get, you know, naked here. They have to have pasties and a G string on it, that's like in Grand Rapids, it's like this big liberal.
Speaker 1:I mean it's a conservative area but, like the Kent County, always goes blue as far as voting so liberal. You know what I mean. But yeah, in Grand Rapids it's you know pasties and it's basically like bikini almost.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that's pretty much what it is here, but I've taken lots of people out there and picked lots of people up, but I've never picked up one of the you know any of the people that worked there. And so the other night I picked up a girl and she was a dancer there and she turned out to be just really super nice. She was telling me about her situation. She's like 32, but she, she, you know, she looked younger than that but she used to dance she said it like a high end club in Ohio and she moved down here and she was working someplace and got ended up getting laid off. But she has, you know, she has like a eight year old kid and she couldn't, she couldn't get hired anywhere. So she's like I, you know I had to go back to this and so I could make some money. Yeah, I can get on somewhere else.
Speaker 3:But you know, I and I know one of the things gay was talking about the other day was some people will get in and see a lifter who would drive her and kind of look down on you thinking that's all you're qualified to do or all you know you, you have the mental capacity to do. I think it's probably the same way with with people who who work like as a dancer or things like that. Yeah, I'm sure they get a lot of people to look down on them, but I've only had two, I think, in my career, in both One it used to be a regular and uh and this was at a different place that they ended up tearing down. But she was going to school I mean literally going to school and had a kid and we had, I mean, super conversations. She always wanted to go through Starbucks. She always bought me whatever, you know, whatever drink I wanted at Starbucks and you know there's people trying to get by.
Speaker 1:Well, that shit pays a lot of money. It pays the bills. Like I mean, if I could, you know, dance with this body right here, I would probably do it too. Um, how do I go Hold on? I got sneeze.
Speaker 3:Woohoo, nice shoot.
Speaker 1:I was looking for some light. Do you ever, do you ever do that? Do you ever look at the light to sneeze?
Speaker 3:Yes, okay, I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1:There's a name for that. Yeah, I don't know how to forget what it's called. Uh, uh dance that beard hey if.
Speaker 5:I could have.
Speaker 1:If I could do an OnlyFans with this beard, I think I would. I definitely think I would, mark. And then I had another question that got brought up when all your stories are, but I forgot it now. Can't remember shit. That's Larry's new thing he's taught me CRS Can't remember shit. I'm going to use that, that's right.
Speaker 1:So, uh, before we jump into gig economy in the news, I wanted to talk about Kim. Kim with Side Money Plans is an incredible YouTube streamer and she has just started a podcast. You can download the podcast wherever you get podcasts If you go to our link. The link for her podcast is in our description, Of course, her YouTube channel. She has over 7,000 subscribers more than us. Uh, she's built this from the ground up, talks about tips and tricks, a lot of uh, gig work, does it full time, a lot of DoorDash, um, but she's great and, uh, I, you know I really enjoy watching her live streams and communicate with her. But definitely download that podcast, give it a listen Uh, I'm sure you would like it, and then obviously check out her uh YouTube channel as well, cause she is the bomb and I appreciate, uh appreciate her trusting us to talk about her. Yeah, so she's got some really good content.
Speaker 3:She's definitely worth checking out.
Speaker 1:So I found out from her that well, last week I forgot to talk about the Dr Pepper. So we we established that. But I found out from her she stopped live streaming for almost a year Cause she got wrapped into some weird fucking drama on YouTube. I don't know. Like people were being like, she was getting death threats and I don't know the exact detail.
Speaker 1:She didn't go into it, but I was like holy shit. She's like, yeah, it was a complete disaster. But she's back now. Whatever it was has has passed and I'm so glad that she's live streaming again because she puts out great content. She's also on the round table with Steve from rideshare rodeo on Thursday nights at 9pm Eastern. So, um, we checked that out, all right, all right. Gig economy in the news. Speaking of no, I don't gotta, I don't gotta segue.
Speaker 1:Join the, the Uber. I almost said Uber like a Uber. Join the Uber mentorship program, barbara. New drivers on the app are looking for advice, and expertise is just what they need. Now. You can earn extra money by helping them become a success on the road. The Uber mentorship program pairs you with a new driver ie learner, okay Thanks who can ask questions and learn your hints, tips and tricks of the trade. You'll get $20 when the learner completes 10 trips after matching with you and send at least one message, and you send at least one message to your learner. You could mentor up five learners at a time. They'll feel supported, you'll feel rewarded and everyone is earning while using the Uber platform. So I did not get this. Actually, I don't know, it could be an I, when I don't drive like you said, you have a. You have a work phone too. I mean it's off, so I had to like power it on to even see my, my quest.
Speaker 3:But I did not. I did not receive that.
Speaker 1:Nope, I didn't get one either. Got a lot of other bullshit, but not that. So, yeah, I think it's good, I think it's a good idea. Um, I, uh, I feel like the, I feel like the pay is fair.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean it's reminiscent of you know, when Lyft started out. They used to have the Lyft training program, but it was not in effect by the time I started driving. But I heard a lot about it and I mean it just makes sense because I remember starting and I didn't know anybody, who, who did ride chair on, who is. You know the few videos that I saw on YouTube and some stories I read on Reddit and different things like that and you're, I mean you're all, you're all alone, you're, you're downloading the app and then you're trying to figure it out and I remember I still remember my very first ride. She had put in the wrong address, like completely wrong.
Speaker 2:Your first ride.
Speaker 3:My first ride that I got. Oh no. So I'm driving up and down this street thinking I'm doing something wrong and my phone rings and it's her dad and she's like hey, my daughter put in the wrong address. So here's the ride address. Yeah, he gave me another address and that one was wrong. Wow.
Speaker 3:So he was off by like a hundred. You know. He told me like 984 and it was, you know, 884 or something. So I drove up down the street and finally she just came out to the road and I drove by and I was like, are you waiting for a new? And I remember thinking, man, if it's like this all the time, I don't want no part of it. Yeah. But, luckily that was. That was. That was the only time. You know that was the worst, that happened for a while. Anyway, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's a good idea. There's not a lot of resource out there. I got a shout out the ride share guy. He's got some driver resources in there.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, he had a complete like program you could go through there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, I don't see that now and he's got like driving strategies, insurance, safety tips, vehicle maintenance.
Speaker 3:It's just good to have somebody who's done it and you're able to ask them, because if somebody's been doing it as long as we have, we've probably seen it or something or heard about it or something. You know, one of us has been through it and we've talked about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised he stopped that little course because, yeah, he had that course for a while. But Larry, oh Larry, well, larry does a good job too. But the rides, your guy incredible, like he's built a great website. I think he does a great job he's. He's actually stepping back a lot of his stuff. He's got a lot of. He's got a crew now, yeah, he does Sergio and Chris and there's a couple other people I did meet. Connect with Chris. We're going to try to get him on the show. I haven't texted him yet, but Steven Steve introduced us. But yeah, if you really are new driver listening to this, I recommend going to the rideshare guy, click on driver resources and click on driving strategies and there's. You know how to make more money with Uber, how to reduce stress driving as a rideshare driver, how to pick up the best times to drive for the lift.
Speaker 1:He's got all these articles in here. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got a ton of information. So I will join the mentorship program if I do. And that's just pure, just trying to get people to listen to the show. That's the only reason.
Speaker 3:Hey, do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it really. You really you only have to send one message. It doesn't. It didn't really say you had to like meet in person or anything either.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I know I mean this is, this is kind of like mentorship light.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm wondering if it's going to give you access to message through the Uber app. I would guess they would right.
Speaker 3:You would, you would think so. I mean, I wouldn't think that you're expected to give them your phone number.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that'd be weird. Yeah, you know, be eligible for payment is unmatched, as you are ops out of the mentorship program, okay, yeah, well, I think it's good. I think it's. I don't want the more people that know what the fuck they're doing out there. I mean, the mentorship program isn't going to make like, you're not going to create this incredible driver, so don't feel like it's like I mean, what am I trying to like a referral, like don't think it's a referral because they're already driving.
Speaker 1:So it's like, don't worry about it, you might as well help them. You know, get on the road and be a safer driver. Jerry says when's the picket picnic? Will you have a date? We do have a date. I haven't paid for it yet. I have to do the email. What did we settle on, Larry the 24th?
Speaker 3:No, the 14th. Let me pull up my calendar and see I put it on my calendar.
Speaker 1:I did too, but I think it's uh, hold on, you caught us off guard there, jerry. It is September. The calendar won't load when I go that. When I go that far, it takes like a second, but I think it's December 4th or September. Uh, september 14th. Oh, I did not put it on the calendar. You did, though I did. Okay, I can check my email, but, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:So September 14th I'll be down for the 14th.
Speaker 1:It's in the same place. That has been every year, except the first year. It's at Riverside Park, at the Island Shelter, um. So yeah, we had such, uh, the picnic wasn't at. I mean the picnic's fun, of course, but the when we go out at night, and that's when you know we have a lot of fun because we're just I went to my first uh gay bar that weekend and that was interesting.
Speaker 3:I mean it was. That makes two of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when I say interesting, like usually when I say interesting, it's like that was interesting. No, it was, it was fine. There was nothing, there was nothing to write home about. But yeah, that was well. No, I, I take that back. I've been to rumors which has been around Grand Rapids for a long time, but that was way long ago.
Speaker 5:But yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, moving on, uh, larry, you're going to talk to us about some, uh, some bots.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so uh article that uh talks about some DoorDash and Walmart spark delivery gig workers have a dirty secret in that secret is that they're using bots to capture better offers than other people. So there's, you see, probably in the Uber and Lyft Facebook groups all the time people are posting in there advertising these bots for sale and they're supposed to pick the better, you know, the better deliveries for Spark or for food delivery. And I don't know if you pay a monthly fee or it's a one time fee, but you do have to be careful. Some people say, yeah, you know, I paid the money and it worked. They had me get better offers. And then there's another guy said he paid $1,000 in Bitcoin and never got the bot. So you know buyer beware and also know that that almost all these programs are against the terms of service with the companies and they're. They all say that they're actively looking for any of this activity and they will. They will, you know, cut you out and cancel your account.
Speaker 1:I've definitely been tempted with a bot from Amazon, because you can get them for Flex right, where they'll grab routes for you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm sure you can yeah.
Speaker 1:But I just never. I never pulled the trigger on it. It's so hard to get a route through Amazon. I mean you literally have to tap your phone and let's use Flexler. So Flexler is actually not a bot. What it does is it refreshes your phone the amount of time you want it to refresh. So you know that's Gary's app, but it doesn't grab the route for you or anything.
Speaker 3:So you still have to be so I don't think there's anything wrong with that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you still have to look in there and then all of a sudden, every three seconds it'll refresh and then it pops up and you still have to tap it and swipe it and do all the shit. So but but yeah, it's tempting to do some of these bots and I don't see a lot of bot talk in the Facebook group. Maybe you do, but I see a lot in Spark, in the Spark group, talking about bots and I've never even I mean I don't even know how to get one in there, but I mean it's a real problem.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it definitely is, it definitely is. And then it also also talks about people selling their accounts to other people, which is never, never, a good situation.
Speaker 1:I don't know how that's happening, because every app that I use when I go to sign on unless I'm regularly using it, like every day, it asks me for a picture identification and unless the apps are not doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know how they get around that. I don't know how they do on the internet. Yeah, this article it talks about. You know some of these, like Walmart, spark delivery drivers, some of them using multiple accounts at the same time to pick up orders. So you know, just getting a whole huge car load, I guess, orders on different accounts.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing, though Does Walmart have a real reason to get rid of those guys? I mean, they're getting the fucking orders delivered, you know what. I mean, I probably don't care yeah exactly Until it starts getting into the mainstream media, I should say, where it's like affecting customer whatever it is like this guy wasn't on the app. He ends up going in and, you know, assaults the customer and they're like well, where did this guy come from and tell something like that happens. Walmart's going to be like what. I didn't see anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, I mean it makes sense.
Speaker 1:And then same with, even with Amazon. Why do they care if a bot takes the as long as their packages get delivered?
Speaker 1:Yeah that's all they care about the bottom line, which is, which sucks, yes, but it is what it is. One thing that I am annoyed about you talked about them. Posting is like the reactivation scam that's going around, Like, do you? I see that all day, and so, oh, yeah, yeah, I see that all the time. People will comment on our stuff all the time and like, even in groups that I don't monitor, that I just hide the comment because there's nothing I can do about it. You know because? But so our Grand Rapids, uh, UberLift group is kind of died a little bit In the admins. We're not doing anything. I finally reached out to one of them and I was like, listen, can you make me a moderator, Cause I'm tired of it. I don't fuck around. If I see one of those in there, I immediately go in there and ban them, Like I. But I'm telling you on a daily basis I'm in there doing that.
Speaker 3:Oh, I can imagine, yeah, Cause I see him. I see him in the national groups and, but you know the Nashville and other groups as well. I see him quite a bit.
Speaker 1:The problem is, is like you need to. You can set up your groups as to be like the person can't post for the first, like three weeks or something like that, but then it gets weird, right Cause then you get people joining and they're like well, I can't even talk for three weeks, why don't I want to be in here?
Speaker 3:So yeah, it's. Yeah, you're punishing the good you know people who aren't doing anything wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's super hard to to monitor that. So I mean I'll know we'll make it when we start getting that spam. But at this point we're not getting everyone's in a blue moon, I get it, but all right, it's a ton of success. Yes, you know what do they say Any publicity is good, even if it's like bad, if people are trying to.
Speaker 3:There's not such things bad publicity yeah.
Speaker 1:They're trying to bomb your site, then that's good, Yep, but um there you go. So this one is a. Oh, I do have. I think I do have a picture for this. Here we go. A reminder I'm going to go to the reddit post. Well, I can't fucking read the reddit post. A reminder about off platform trips. Asking riders to take trips and pay outside of the Uber app is against local regulations and our community guidelines. So it's interesting it says local registrations and community guidelines. It doesn't say against our terms of service.
Speaker 4:That's interesting.
Speaker 1:Uh, although on the bottom it says violating Uber's community guidelines may result in your account being deactivated, but anyways, don't do off app trips. That's what it's saying. I mean, we've all done them right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. I mean, we've all been there, but you are taking chances, sir. You don't know who this person really is.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:There's no record of the trip. Yeah, if they throw up or damage your car, you're fucked. What recourse you have? Nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh. The number one comment says I have a few personal clients that tell me their appointments as such and we never cancel an app trip. If I'm available, we check what Uber and Lyft and charging and make a deal where they pay less and I get more win-win. Yes, I know, if there's an accident I could be fucked. See, that's the biggest point, yeah.
Speaker 3:The insurance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely wouldn't recommend you doing the off app trips for Rando, like you said, the throw up. But you know, uh, I have. We have somebody in our group, our telegram group, that does quite a few of them. I've done some from him, he's done some for me. You do run a risk on all of that, but like nope, I'm not going to say that. I was going to say something about insurance, but I'm like that's like me condoning insurance fraud and I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's don't do that.
Speaker 1:But, but. But my point is is like we all do them, but I would. I would just be careful with the uh completely cashless. Now I'm a proponent of like take the ride on the app and then ask for money up front. I mean essentially the same thing, but I think there's less risk with that. Yeah, for one, you have Uber's insurance, exactly If something happens, so the risk is way smaller. But yeah, this guy had said uh, the original poster had said anyone get this email. I do a ton of hot of app rides. Just wanted to make sure they weren't specifically targeting me.
Speaker 3:I'm like well I don't know, I didn't get the email.
Speaker 1:I didn't either, bro, I better be careful, Just saying. Just saying All right. Moving on to this frustrating thing that I see um this picture right here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so uh, this is just a. I think it popped up in our Uber inbox, I believe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I. Just when I was looking for that mentor, I saw this one in there.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So this one says eligible drivers qualify for incentives. Uh, this one is saying you can receive up to $2,000 when you purchase an eligible pre-owned Chevy Bolt and it is you may. You may also qualify for up to $4,000 in federal tax credits for pre-owned EVs. So if you buy a used Chevy Bolt, it says you'll save $1,000 up front If you buy a pre-owned Chevy Bolt through CarBravo. That's a new one. I haven't heard of it.
Speaker 1:I've never heard of it.
Speaker 3:Uh, by May 31st, and then you earn an additional $1,000 when you complete 300 trips and you're newly purchased Chevy Bolt EV on the Uber platform.
Speaker 1:I think this, this is a great deal. Um and, and yeah, that used one is a new thing, that $4,000 in the tax credit Cause it used to be, it's 7,500 for new. But like I, I don't know, man, I might have thought about that. I don't know if I wanted to buy it through CarBravo, but um and one thing you have to.
Speaker 3:I have to watch here too, cause you have to have. You have to do these 300 trips by the end of the month following your purchase. So if you bought, it today today, the 21st of February, these 300 trips have to be done by the end of March. Ooh, so that that's kind of a little catch. You have to watch out. So if you're going to buy it, buy it at the first of the month, on the first day.
Speaker 1:Well, I think it's a rolling 30 days, though, right.
Speaker 3:No, it doesn't. It's not 30 days. It says they must be completed by the end of the month following your purchase. It says, example if you, if you, purchase an eligible Chevy Bolt on February 16th, you have until March 31st to complete the trip.
Speaker 1:So it's, it's the end of whatever like, whatever month you buy it in oh, I see you get to the end of the following month If you bought it. So if you bought it on February 1st, you would literally have two months to do it. Exactly, that's what I'm saying. Don't buy it. At the end of the month.
Speaker 3:You buy it at the end of the month. You're going to have about, you know, 35 days, or whatever.
Speaker 1:Okay, in my head it was like you only had 30 days, a rolling 30 days, after you made the purchase.
Speaker 3:So right, so you know some people, you know 300 trips it wouldn't be any problem. But you know, if you're a part-time driver or or you know you live in a smaller town where it's just not that busy, that might be a problem, I mean you do it for an extra $1,000.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think this is a great deal. I think it's better than the Tesla's. The Chevy Bolt is what I have and it's an affordable. It's an affordable electric car. I will let you know. The one that I bought was brand new and it did have some extras and I did pay 37 for it. But and that's the first new car I've ever had and that's the most I've ever paid for a car but I mean 37 for an electric vehicle that you don't have to pay gas for, like it's, it was a no-brainer.
Speaker 1:And then getting the $7,500 tax credits, which I do a lot of, 1099 work. So there's definitely going to be some taxes there. Yeah, so, but I'm just saying for people out there they always talk about like oh, should I get a Tesla? Like don't. I mean a Tesla is great. Don't get me wrong, I'm not shitting on Tesla. I would love a Tesla. I think they're really nice. They're a little complicated, but I love my Bolt. I think it's it's, it's affordable. Um, there's not a lot of there's not a lot of maintenance, I don't know, I just love it and I just kind of glad that Uber did that and I think it's. I think it's a good deal. So if you're looking to get a new EV, you can get. You know, the $4,000 tax credit plus was a 2K from that.
Speaker 3:So, like I said, so many people focus on the Tesla and, uh, they don't even think about any other, like a cars models that are available.
Speaker 1:I mean, honestly, I I see on the road, I see Teslas. I see a few Rivians here and there. I see a lot of bolts and then I see everyone's, while I see a Nissan Leaf those are really the three top ones. I see a lot of Teslas. I mean, you know.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Every day I see probably. Yeah, I see like 20 or 30 of them. There are a lot of them out there. They're they're not bad. I'm not saying they're bad, I'm just saying they're pretty pricey. I mean, you're not going to get into a brand new Tesla for under 40 grand by any means, but um, no doubt. I will say the bolt does take time to charge. If you're not willing to put a charger in your house, that you might struggle with it. But other than that it's a good car.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thank you. You read it. Um, if you're going to ride share with electric vehicle, you almost have to have a charger at your house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, and that's why I think a lot of people like shit on these electric vehicles. I see in the groups I'm like motherfucker, I pay eight dollars to charge this thing. You're putting 40 bucks a day into your car. Like it adds up. I don't have oil changes, I don't have to change the transmission fluid. Like I literally have no maintenance at all and everyone shits on it and I'm just like, okay, whatever, go ahead and just, you know, spend all that money on maintenance. Like to me it's a no brainer, especially if you're a full time driver. But All right, uh, number five, uh this, why am I numbering? I have no idea. San Francisco couple describes feeling trapped, riding in a Waymo, driverless car that was being attacked. Watch this video real quick. Uh, obviously, this um Waymo's been in the news a lot lately. It seems like, uh, we might not watch the whole thing cause it's two, 26 and this lady's voice sounds like a robot, by the way. So I enjoyed that.
Speaker 4:A couple minutes into his Waymo ride, Robert Moreno said the cool feeling of getting an invitation to ride on a driverless vehicle quickly shifted.
Speaker 5:And some some panic set in um just owing to the situation itself.
Speaker 4:On Saturday, Robert and his husband said a person who looked homeless was trying to cover the sensors of the vehicle as the light turned green.
Speaker 5:We felt trapped in the sense that we didn't know what to do in that instance. We didn't really have an understanding. Do we get out? Was it safe to get out of the car?
Speaker 4:Were you concerned for your safety?
Speaker 5:We were because of the situation.
Speaker 4:The vehicle didn't move and minutes later that person walked away. Waymo emailed them saying in part when a pedestrian attacks the vehicle, we advise writers to remain inside the vehicle. We looked into the potential of someone getting inside the vehicle. Now, when a Waymo is active, the door handles are hidden. As you can see, no one can get inside the vehicle from the outside. The only way to get in the vehicle is to click unlock. That's when the handles pop out. Scott Mora, UC Berkeley's faculty director for the program for advanced transportation technology, or PATH, explained why the Waymo vehicle responded the way he did.
Speaker 1:When those sensors are blocked, it's equivalent to basically someone putting a blindfold over the eyes of a driver and they're unable to move.
Speaker 4:Sensors and visibility are key. On Tuesday in the.
Speaker 1:OK, so we get the, we get it. What happened? The homeless guy blocked the sensors. Yeah, I mean, that's why I think those kind of cars in our climate maybe not, maybe not bull and green, but where you got snow and stuff, ice, that builds up on all that stuff, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it makes you wonder. It makes you wonder. Yeah, and yeah, they talked about. Yeah, I liked it in there. She said the only way to get into the car is click the unlock button. No, no, you get some homies. Those are brick through that window. Yeah, oh yeah, we're getting in the car. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:Again, I like Mark Elwell when someone attacks a vehicle, not if yeah, she did say. Win someone Like yeah, because it will probably happen more on a regular basis. For sure. But I'm not against technology by any means. I just think the self-driving thing is a lot farther away than it really needs me. I mean, there's always going to have to be sensors, right, Unless you're literally on a track. The car goes on a track with no other car.
Speaker 4:There's always going to be sensors.
Speaker 1:I just don't know how ready it is to be bopped down the road without yeah, I still think it's a way.
Speaker 3:I mean, when we first started driving, everybody's like, oh better, enjoy the way it can. You know your tune is going to be self-driving cars. You know we're not. I don't feel I mean we're closer but we're not much closer, I know.
Speaker 1:When everyone would say that I was like, are you?
Speaker 3:kidding me. Like you're out of your mind. You're out of your mind, yeah. I mean, even when they get the technology where it's solid enough, it's going to take a generation because you got to have kids who grow up with that. Exactly, it's like computers and technology when they grow up with it, you think nothing of it. Yeah, but you get somebody who's 60 years old, 70 years old, and they can prove that it's safer to drive in this driverless car.
Speaker 3:They don't care about that. No, they care that I'm not riding in it. I don't care.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing you talk about, generational like when you ask a like, if I asked my 16 year old daughter how she would talk on the phone she would do this and we would do this. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:That's already starting to because they grew up with a cell phone.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, they never had any other kind of phone, right? So I agree. I don't know if it'll take a full 100 years, but it's long ways we will be driving for Uber for a long ass time. I mean, I'm not sure it's long ways we will be driving for Uber for a long ass time.
Speaker 1:So as long as we want yeah, as long as we want yeah, exactly. Real quick, do an ad and then we're going to talk about Larry's GPS problems. Octopus tablet this is an incredible tablet that you can get for your car. Obviously, it mounts on the back of your headrest. There your passengers can play trivia games, all kinds of stuff. They can win an actual Amazon card, a $25 gift card if they're the top of the day, like the top score, or whatever. The link is in the description. You can earn roughly $100 a month if you're a full-time driver. But it's easy. It's easy money. It's not like there's literally no work. You just put it in there and then people love the shit out of it. It would be cool if you could and I saw this today, so I'm not taking full credit for it but somehow put your cash app up there so that you could get tipped through that instead of the app, if people want to be like I don't want Uber, you know bubba-ba or whatever.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean we just make a little piece of cardboard or something with the cash app on there and laminate it. Yeah, Mount it there on the side.
Speaker 1:I know I feel like it looks cheesier, though, when it's like laminated.
Speaker 3:It's baked on, if we can get it on the screen.
Speaker 1:It just looks more legitimate. You know what I mean. True. So, yeah, Thanks for joining Ty. Yeah, you can't do it in smaller city. Driverless cars won't work. Yeah, you can't do it in cities that get snow. I mean, it's bad enough out there with no snow, but yeah. But, yeah, octopus tablet. Check it out If you want to make extra money, it'll be great.
Speaker 3:Passengers love it. I get compliments on my octopus tablet all the time. Yep People, just I mean they love the trivia, especially if you're driving at night. During the daytime you're not so much, I'm telling you though and this is no bullshit.
Speaker 1:There's literally nothing you have to do. You just plug it in, and I will say, when you don't, you have to kind of reboot it if you let it sit for a while. But other than that, like you don't have to start the software, it just fires up on its own. If it was a pain in the ass, we wouldn't be talking about it, because oh yeah, it goes to sleep when you stop.
Speaker 3:For you know when you come home and you know they recommend that you bring it in once a week and charge it. I've never done that. Once I put it in my car, it's been in my car.
Speaker 1:It's never left my car.
Speaker 3:You know I'm in St Louis visiting my son because so my car doesn't get broken into. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, my, I have FBI windows so no one can see in there anyways. So all right, larry, tell me about this. I'm interested in what people say.
Speaker 3:this yeah, so on on the well, both apps Uber and Lyft you can. You can go into the settings and choose what navigation you want. You can use the you know the Uber navigation, their proprietary proprietary navigation, or you can choose ways, or you can choose, I think, apple Maps or Google Maps, and but for a couple of years now, even though in the app I have ways designated as what I want, when I do an Uber ride, once I pick up the passenger and slide to start the trip, if I hit navigation to pop open the map, it comes up and asks me ways are Uber every time. Now, I was just curious. I wanted to show this and see if there's anybody else in the other market where this does, because it's annoying, because you have to do it every time. I mean, you really don't have to. If you don't touch it, it defaults to Uber's navigation.
Speaker 1:Oh it does if you don't make a choice.
Speaker 3:Right at times you have, like I don't know, maybe 15 seconds or something to choose. So there's times when I forget to hit it and I'll look up and it's using the Uber. I just happen to like ways better. I'm just used to it, I guess. So I mean it's not a huge deal, but I'm just curious if it's something that's you know, just in this market, or if anybody else sees this.
Speaker 1:Do you want to play the video?
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's play the video.
Speaker 1:So you can see there. Yeah, it's 15 seconds.
Speaker 3:Right, well, you couldn't see it on the bottom? I think it has something. Yeah, so it's gonna go. When it gets to 13 seconds, it's gonna use Uber or I can click on ways there.
Speaker 1:Well, I think you clicked on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think you clicked on ways Right. Yeah, you can see yourself tapping it, but yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna test it this weekend because I haven't driven since we talked about it. But if anyone else is having the same problem, let us know?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean not even a problem, it's just what's annoying. You think it would be standard. I mean I know they have all sorts of different things that are different in different markets, but that one makes no sense to me why it would be different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that doesn't make sense. I personally, jesper, kind of talked me into using the in Uber app. Yeah, when I came back from the pandemic before pandemic, I used ways exclusively. I fucking hated the Uber app. I didn't think it was very, wasn't good and I hated. You know, like I was just like fuck it, I'm using ways. But now Jesper's like no, do the in app. It's great and it is because, honestly, like you don't have to leave the app, you can see your person as you drive up. You know we talk about the little blue dot or whatever it is. I mean, it's just, I think it's easier to do. There's no reason for me.
Speaker 3:I need to give it another try and use it like for a whole night and see how it goes. I did try, like the Lyft navigation. You know, when they had that announcement a couple of weeks ago that they oh, updated it. Yeah, they updated it, so I tried it and, like the first ride I tried they had a stop and so it within the app it did like it had a little box that said like first stop or something. I didn't see it.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I got it, so I'm like F this.
Speaker 3:As soon as I dropped them off, changed it right back to ways.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:So maybe they've made that a little better, but it was very hard to tell where that first stop was.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I think I use Lyft in app too. I don't think I don't know. I mean, it's not as good as Uber. I will tell you that, but I never went in to change it to. I think they use. I thought they use Google, but maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3:They probably do. They probably do, but I just use ways for both of them.
Speaker 1:So Trilers has. Lyft map sucks always shows the shortest route, not the fastest. I agree some of their navigation was questionable. You know, it's very strange for me some of the ways they oh, it would be like the way I would take somebody home from the airport downtown. They wanted me to fucking go down all the way down to take. Well, this means nothing to people that aren't local, but 44th Street all the way to 131 and then into downtown. I'm like the fucking highways right here, like why wouldn't I jump on 96 and then go downtown?
Speaker 3:This is ways.
Speaker 1:No, this is the Lyft app. I don't know what they use. I don't know if it's Google Maps or not, but yeah, it's weird when they have problems.
Speaker 3:There's one like Waze has had a problem for at least the last month that I know there's one. There's one road, it's called Nashville Road. You know it runs straight down and for some reason if there's something on that road that's past where our old mall is, it wants you to take a right, like go around the old mall and then come right back out on Nashville Road and then go straight. It's like that. It like thinks that section of roads closed almost.
Speaker 3:But it's not in red like it usually is. But I have to really pay attention if something's going out on Nashville Road. If I'm not paying attention, I just look at the next turn and I'll turn. And now you know, I realize, oh, I'm just going back to Nashville Road, and then you're like, well, shit, you know.
Speaker 1:Well it's not as impactful if you're by yourself, but if you have a passenger they can get concerned. They're like what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 3:Yeah, where's he taking me Exactly? They end up like that guy down in Texas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, the deputy.
Speaker 3:Well, no, the Mexican guy that the girl lady from Kentucky shot in the back of the head.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was taking her to Mexico. Yeah, yeah, a traveler says make you look like an idiot? Yeah, it does too, and it's like Jesus Christ, I'm just following the map but like, but I would do that too. I would be talking to my passenger and I would literally just follow the map and, like, forget where I was in that moment. So, yeah, it is kind of embarrassing, like you're supposed to be able to drive this car and follow the map Exactly.
Speaker 3:And this answer, salia. I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing that right, but he's asking can I use my company car for Uber? I have commercial plate on it. I don't believe so. The insurance has to be in your name.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:The insurance for the car would have to be in your name. I mean, obviously you would have to have permission from whoever your boss is in your company to use that, but I don't believe they would let you do ride share just because you have to have insurance.
Speaker 1:In your name and the plates in the registration, unless you're renting a vehicle from Uber. Yeah, I don't even know what a commercial plate would be. I don't know what cities that state might have commercial plates.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they could have special world. You always gotta check that out to every state.
Speaker 1:I would say probably 99%. Sure that would not work if your name's not on it.
Speaker 1:Right, so we're gonna skip number seven. It was just about Instacart. Basically, here's what it was Instacart's laying off 7% of their staff Okay, cool. Moving on, so this is. I'm gonna show a couple of TikToks. Yes, and they have a like they kind of are I wouldn't say they're influencers, but like they post a lot of stuff. But this one happened to be about Uber drivers and I'm interested in your take on this, Larry. I know you don't do this, but like I'm just gonna play it and then I think it would strike up some good conversation.
Speaker 1:So, let's see.
Speaker 5:Sure, most restaurants are gonna agree with me on this. We don't work for you Uber drivers, we work for the person on the other side of the phone.
Speaker 1:Maybe their name is Jamie, Maybe it's Tim, Maybe it's Mark, I don't know. Uber DoorDash Slice Grubhub, Tell.
Speaker 5:You Drivers to leave us the fuck alone and let us do our job.
Speaker 2:And don't stand here. I'm sorry. When I'm on pizza for the night, I am solely on pizza. I don't take orders, I don't do anything. I stand here for six hours and I cut a pizza with a knife. I have to top everything I have to top everything and I have to run out and make sure everybody's set up, and if not, then my hands are burning off.
Speaker 1:But sometimes I'm standing here looking out at pizza. There is a sign right there. There is a sign that says pick up orders for Uber Eats. Please wait in line and check out with cashier.
Speaker 2:And I will be standing here looking down and I'm just like I'm tired. It's eight o'clock and I get a glass like this and I look up and I make a glance and it's their phone showing me the name and I'm like does it look like I'm capable of going and trying to see.
Speaker 5:She's not capable of much you might not, so please stop distracting her.
Speaker 2:So why would you ask me, if I'm obviously very focused and distracted and busy trying to get my job? Done, focus and distracted, so that's true, that doesn't say that he wants to fucking kill me again.
Speaker 1:I didn't say fucking kill. I forget what I said. I didn't mean it.
Speaker 3:OK. So the first thing that stood out to me in this video is that they're in Tampa, because in the background, when they're showing that girl, I can see a Tampa Bay Buccaneers flag. They have drapes. Yeah, they are in Florida. They are in Florida, they're in Tampa.
Speaker 1:I guarantee. So I have a little problem with it. Like he says, you know you're not our customer. I get that, I totally get that. If you don't like it, don't fucking use the service. Then, like you don't have to be a prick about it, like well.
Speaker 3:I think they may have just been trying to get a reaction.
Speaker 1:I'm sure, but like so, it's always frustrating to me. I love places that prioritize their delivery drivers, regardless if it's Uber or their drivers or whatever driver, or if it's DoorDash. Because, well, obviously, because it's me working, but I mean, it just seems to work better when they do that instead of fighting the system. Now, granted, don't walk up and not say hello and point your fucking phone at I would be pissed at that too.
Speaker 1:It's rude, it's totally rude, but I just don't understand why you got to be so butt-hurt about it, because there's still customers. Right, I am a branch of an employee for you. I know I don't work for you, I work for Uber, I work for myself, but you still, if you fuck with me, you're going to get fucky deliveries. It's just. That's just the reality.
Speaker 3:I mean, when it comes down to it, we're all on the same. We all want the same thing. We all want this food to get delivered, and the quickest manner possible.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we shouldn't be battling each other.
Speaker 1:Exactly and again. Granted, the sticking the phone in the face or up in front of the glass is not going to work.
Speaker 3:That's just bullshit.
Speaker 1:But my point is that they have to go to the checkout line with everyone else. I don't like that. I like when they say hey, this is where your pickup orders are. You stand over here, my customers are going to go over there so that we can keep everyone separate. The orders can stay separate. You know what I mean? Like it just yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you shouldn't have just one line, because, yeah, I mean, if you're really busy and I'm having to wait behind 10 people and my order's ready. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Again, we've got the same goal in mind. Yes To get that food to the customer as fast as possible.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Why you would not have a separate line or a separate place for pickup orders as opposed to people who are paying in store. That I don't know. That doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 1:It doesn't make any sense, because then you guess what? You're going to piss off your walking customers because you've got a bunch of fucking drivers there on their phone and being irritated because they have to wait. So I don't know.
Speaker 3:I mean, everybody's going to get irritated in the end. Yeah, is it? The customers they're waiting for their food yeah, from the delivery guy are going to be irritated. Your in-store customers are going to be irritated. The delivery drivers are going to be irritated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then you're going to get people. Not, they're just like I'm not going to pick the, like I'm just not going to do it anymore, like I'm not going to pick up.
Speaker 3:Next time when we go down to Florida I'm going to go to that pizza place and have a heart to heart with him.
Speaker 4:You should.
Speaker 3:Bring it out. We'll straighten it out. There you go. Yeah, we can do it. Yeah, I'll.
Speaker 1:Then we'll get him on the show and talk about well, I guarantee it because he likes to do a lot of stitching on tiktok. I guarantee, if I stitched, that he would respond back somehow and we could get it. We could get a little battle going back like fun. Of course, like I don't hate the guy or by any means, I mean he seems kind of funny. So yeah, be honest with you, but uh yeah. And this other one is the same place. They almost lost a big order, so I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah how, how? Uber responded I did there we go.
Speaker 2:What are timed out, cuz your store didn't accept that you won't be paid.
Speaker 5:No, fucking way to call them up.
Speaker 2:I'm calling him right now. I'm just trying to call uber support at this point.
Speaker 4:This is why third party is a problem, because of these kind of situations.
Speaker 2:Santoros pizzeria. So we have an order that came in 18 pizzas and 10 salads. We made all the food this morning and they got canceled. Definitely gonna be a tough day today.
Speaker 1:We're only 17 minutes in yeah, it's canceled on the uber app. I mean, we made them, we're here, they canceled it at like 1115 or something like that, I mean thanks.
Speaker 5:Oh.
Speaker 2:Are we getting paid for this order?
Speaker 4:it's a glitch we should be able to Accept orders automatically, he's setting in a request right now for us to get refunded and pay the money plus customer service, I'll take it.
Speaker 2:Thank you. I've reached the best person I ever talked to actually customer service.
Speaker 1:In one one video. So clearly they're doing it for, like, internet points, because you see there's, they're talking to different employees and stuff like that, and and good for them. Like I'm not hating on that. So you always have to take that with a grain of salt, like how much are they really pissed off? But like hit one breath or like fuck these third-party apps. And then they're like oh great, customer service.
Speaker 3:So it's weird. I mean, especially on a big order like that, I mean I would you think the customer has to pay up front and it gets processed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, the whole, the whole thing was weird on all of that. Yeah well, I mean the you know like traveler, ah, the, the old glitch. I mean it's true, they do it. I mean it's such a a blanket statement for fuck ups, but like a glitch could be somebody fucked up. But but yeah, I again you blame the third-party apps. I mean, like then why are you fucking doing them? Like I'm like Italian and he's like why are you worried about then? Like, clearly you need to do it to keep your business flow. Although it looks like a great pizza place, I I literally would eat that pizza right now, even though oh yeah, I mean they got my attention.
Speaker 3:Next time we go down to the Dunn Eden or Clearwater I'm probably gonna hit them up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean. Well, how far is Tampa outside of, like Clearwater?
Speaker 3:Like it's just right across the Bay.
Speaker 1:Oh, tampa Bay is yeah, is that why?
Speaker 3:it's yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, tampa is like the mainland and then Clearwater is kind of across. You take, you go across the causeway it's like a three mile bridge and you're in. You're in Clearwater, it's about 20 minute drive.
Speaker 1:Well, breaking news we're going to Clearwater for Christmas. So I'm right, right, that's right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you there, you go there, you guys eat some pizza and you're on your vacation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we'll have to stop down there, so that's amazing.
Speaker 3:What you got to do. You just got to walk up to that glass and tap your phone.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, no, what I need to do is have Megan record like walk in, like kind of low-key record, and then maybe like hey, I'm here for my fucking order. Yeah, don't even say anything.
Speaker 3:Just tap on the glass with your phone To watch them lose their mind. Oh yeah, then this, crack up and tell them you know you saw their video. Yeah, people are they gonna have do that now though?
Speaker 1:I don't know, probably most people aren't Assholes like well, but I'm my point. The wall Do you mean like as a joke, or yeah, everyone that watches that video is gonna do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the first thing it pops into my mind oh, frickin hilarious. So all right, guys. That is gonna wrap it up. We are at an hour. I'm glad we finished on those videos because that was fun. Any anything else you want to talk about, larry? Anything exciting?
Speaker 3:I'm putting you on the spot. Oh, oh man. No, I mean just everybody. Start making plans for the picnic. Go ahead and clear your schedule. Yeah, it's the way he's out, but it's important we have a lot of fun. I mean, it's a great time to get together and you know, last few years we've had really good weather. Yeah in the picnic.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's a pretty place you know where they have the picnic at. We have a good time Just getting together and meeting these people. That a lot of us you know, otherwise we would only know each other from telegram. Yeah, but I Think I've gone four out of the five years They've had it and it's well worth it. Yeah, I am flying this year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, september 14th. It'll probably be in the late afternoon and then, while we always do something that night, go hang out and do some shit or whatever, go to some bars and yeah, and then they know no dead bodies last year.
Speaker 1:No, I know that. Oh yeah, that's right, that was weird. Yeah, that was weird. But anyways, thank you guys so much and, as always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit and we'll see you on the road no Night. This podcast is produced and edited by hey guys media group. Want to start a podcast? Check out hey guys media groupcom. Oh, oh, oh.