The GIG Economy Podcast
Ep #184 Uber threatens to leave Minnesota, and Uber EV drivers get a bonus, sort of.
As we swing through the maze of the gig economy, this rollercoaster ride of an episode is packed with both heartwarming and hard-hitting stories. I'm sharing the scoop on scoring birthday freebies and the importance of human connection, like when Larry drove a determined young man to a job interview. But it's not all sunshine and freebies—we're tackling the contentious debate over driver safety and wage regulations in Minneapolis, with giants like Uber threatening to take their ball and leave the playground.
Navigating the gig economy's seas can be like wrestling an octopus, and we're here to share our playbook. From the comedic mishap of a tire inflation misadventure to the murky waters of Instacart's new terms of service, we're dissecting the power plays between gig workers and the platforms they rely on. Prepare to chuckle and ponder as we take you through the tech side of shopping apps, and don't miss out on the quirky tales of multi-apping delivery drivers. We get candid about the ethical dilemmas faced by delivery drivers, including the controversial refusal to deliver a Plan B pill order, sparking a debate on the intersection of personal beliefs and professional responsibilities.
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As we swing through the maze of the gig economy, this rollercoaster ride of an episode is packed with both heartwarming and hard-hitting stories. I'm sharing the scoop on scoring birthday freebies and the importance of human connection, like when Larry drove a determined young man to a job interview. But it's not all sunshine and freebies—we're tackling the contentious debate over driver safety and wage regulations in Minneapolis, with giants like Uber threatening to take their ball and leave the playground.
Navigating the gig economy's seas can be like wrestling an octopus, and we're here to share our playbook. From the comedic mishap of a tire inflation misadventure to the murky waters of Instacart's new terms of service, we're dissecting the power plays between gig workers and the platforms they rely on. Prepare to chuckle and ponder as we take you through the tech side of shopping apps, and don't miss out on the quirky tales of multi-apping delivery drivers. We get candid about the ethical dilemmas faced by delivery drivers, including the controversial refusal to deliver a Plan B pill order, sparking a debate on the intersection of personal beliefs and professional responsibilities.
Everything Gig Economy Podcast Related: https://gigeconomyshow.com/
Download the audio podcast https://link.chtbl.com/TheGigEconomyPodcast
Kim’s Side Money Plans: Podcast: http://redcircle.com/kimssidemoneyplans
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@kimssidemoneyplans
A mobile vending machine in your car and way better than cargo! https://ridy.club/presale/order?ref_code=3db5
Octopus is a mobile entertainment tablet for your riders. Earn 100.00 per month for having the tablet in your car! No cost for the driver!
Octopus Tablet Entertainment https://account.playoctopus.com/join/referred_by/GRPodcast
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Hi guys, welcome to the gig economy podcast episode 100 and 84. What are we talking about? What do we title this? Uber threatens to leave Minnesota and Uber EV drivers get a bonus, sort of. Yeah, there was something else that I wanted to relabel. I can't really remember. It was going down quick. Oh, and driver cancels for plan B, which is, I think, the weirdest thing I've we're going to talk tonight, that I didn't think we'd ever ever talk about. So how's?
Speaker 3:it going, larry. It's going well. It's going well. Before we get started, just wanted to say happy birthday to my co-host. It's Jason's birthday. Everybody give him some love tonight.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you so much. Yes, the ripe old age of 28, 29. Not quite, 32, 32.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm trying to help you out. No, I'm 48. So thank you very much. It's been a good day. It was very sunny today and I got a lot of free birthday bonuses. I mean, it's like it was like crumble cookie, starbucks, come and go, tropical smoothie, like five or six things that were free today and I think, man, that's really good. It never used to be that way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you can clean up on the birthday stuff at the restaurants nowadays and you're on their mailing list and stuff. Yeah, same way with the Veterans Day, you can clean up like free meals everywhere.
Speaker 1:Larry's funny because if you're in, he'll always talk about it on Veterans Day in the telegram chat. He'll be like I'm going to IHOP or I'm going to that.
Speaker 3:That's exactly right. Yeah, you can really really clean up. But yeah, it's cool that the restaurants do that. You know off year free treat or something on your birthday. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why not? You know it's nothing to them. You know what?
Speaker 3:I mean, so all right.
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Speaker 3:And we need somebody to backfill my spot, since I've dropped off the list.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, I was like wait a minute, are you leaving the show tonight? Like in my head it was like I need another co-host. I don't know why I couldn't translate.
Speaker 2:Surprise, we were talking about.
Speaker 1:Patreon. Like happy birthday bitch, I'm gone, drop the mic, come out.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, it'd be devastated. And then we talked about the Telegram group earlier. We did have a few people join. I was a little nervous on that last one. If it was going to be a spam thing, I kind of like I don't know, just the you never know Sometimes, because you can put whatever name you want on Telegram, you don't put your own name in. It's fine if you want to put something different. But so far no spam. If anyone in the group has some spam from that person, please let me know and I'll block his ass. So but anyways, the Telegram group isn't all about blocking people. It's about communicating with our gig workers around the country. If you are interested in that the link is in the description Please go ahead and download that and join the group. Stories from the road Larry, looks like you have one story. I have nothing because I did not drive. Yes.
Speaker 3:I didn't drive this weekend so didn't think I was going to have any stories, but I had one Tuesday, I think I think it was Tuesday. Yeah, yesterday, nothing real wild or anything but picked up. A guy Went to pick him up. He was probably I don't know 24, 25 years old or something like that, and pull in and he's got. He's got like a little BMX bike with him and he's like, hey, is there any way we could put this in a trunk? And I'm like you know, when you first see it, you know you kind of like, well, crap, you know I don't really feel like messing with this bike, but it was a BMX bike, it wasn't a 10 speed. So it's like we'll see if we can get it in the trunk. Camry's got a pretty decent size trunk. Yeah, it took a little finagling but we got it in there and shut it and just talking to him on the way there, you know, making small talk with him, and found out that he was going on to a job interview at Mr B's restaurant.
Speaker 3:He's like, yeah, I already work over at Texas Roadhouse, but I need to try to make some more money. I'm helping my mom out, you know, with my younger siblings, and so I'm trying to get this other job too. And I said, well, you know, that's pretty cool, this hearing him talk about, you know, being responsible and trying to make more money. When you got so many people nowadays, it seemed like that I want to work. And I took him and it was probably, you know, five, six miles, so he obviously didn't want to get sweaty before his interview.
Speaker 3:But he was going to be riding the bike back home and when we got out and got his bike out, I was like, hey, just wanted to tell you good luck, man, you know, respect the dedication and hard work. He's like, oh man, that means a lot. I really appreciate that. So it just makes us think twice. Like I said, if I was in a in maybe a bad mood, I might have, you know, kind of in my mind, throwing a little fit about having to put a bike in the car and everything. But you know, it's no big deal. It took 30 seconds, you know, and really helped this guy out. I think and I hope he got the job because he seemed like a real upstanding young guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you never know what just a small decision of like doing that could help somebody. You know what I mean, you know put a smile on their face, or yeah, you don't know their backstory. Yeah, no, I will say, I get fucking annoyed when people have bikes, but when I had my pilot there are many times I was like, ah, fuck it, throw it in there Cause you know it's old.
Speaker 1:It's got to beat up. You know what I mean. So right, but I do. I would do appreciate when people text and ask first, and then then, like the last time did I had my bolt and I'm like, nah, that's, that's not going to work, Not going to work. Yeah, I mean it probably could work, but like you're going to get your grease all over my, you know it's like it's not like it's a trunk, you know.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, and I mean I do have like a army poncho that I have laid down the trunk. I'll use it, like if somebody is has a pet that they're going to, you know, then I'm going to take in the car that I'll lay down, so it's laid out in my trunk. So it's not going to get anything, you know, on my trunk, it's just going to get on this poncho.
Speaker 1:So yeah, we established that's your dead body tarp yeah.
Speaker 3:That was pre-show banner that's not supposed to go on the show.
Speaker 1:We can hear we accuse each other of crimes on the pre-show banter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what happens. So if you join the Patreon, you can. You can hear all the all that stuff For sure All right.
Speaker 1:Before we jump in gig economy news, I want to talk about Kim real quick. Kim side money plans is a fantastic YouTuber and has recently decided that she wants to turn her content into a podcast. So go get your browser out your browser, get your podcast player out. Go look up Kim side money plans. Kim side money plans I always say Kim and then side money plans, but it's actually Kim's side money plans. Download that podcast, give it a listen. She's a fantastic YouTuber. She has done I think she's got 7,000 subscribers done like I don't know two or 3,000 deliveries for DoorDash a big, big DoorDash person but full-time gig worker and content creator, and we'll definitely have to get her on at some time. But check it out. She's talking about our show too, so we're just kind of swapping ads here. But I've known Kim for a while and Steve from Right your Rodeo is a good friend of theirs. She's been on his show quite a bit on the round table on Thursday night, so her show is Tuesday 8pm Eastern, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, I didn't log in last night. I was doing something while celebrating my birthday last night. But yeah, it's Tuesday night because I know I can watch it, because it's not during our show. But check it out, I'd appreciate it. All right, good economy in the news. Uber and Lyft resume threats to leave Minneapolis all over again. So we talk. Minneapolis has been in the news quite a bit recently, maybe in the last couple of months. They were in the news for offering those drivers in the Twin Cities, I think, $5 minimum ride, Like they got $5.
Speaker 3:Right yeah.
Speaker 1:So again it's going up. Uber and Lyft threatens to leave April 1st. The vote is March 7th and it's going back to the same thing again. There's a public hearing that was proposed in ordinance that would pay drivers a minimum of $1.40 per mile and 51 cents per minute which that's a lot while transporting riders on any trip within the city limits, among other guarantees. The mayor had vetoed a similar plan last year. The primary difference this year could be political math. Following last year's election, the council had shifted slightly left and it's possible the current council could override his veto where the last council didn't. If things had this way. Obviously, when it says Leans left, I feel like I feel like you know, when you get the union involved, which I am union, but our union literally doesn't talk about politics. I don't know anyone's politics in my union, my bus union, but typically historically if you are left leaning, typically your union supporter.
Speaker 1:So that's why they say the council has shifted slightly left and that could change it, but the governor also had kicked it back. Vito had a similar plan that had passed by lawmakers, just because he wanted more data. So apparently they spent the last year getting more data and whatnot and yeah, we'll see what happens. Have they actually pulled out? I know early on in the California days remember the AB five, all that crap they talked about pulling out, but I don't think they've ever pulled out of a city, have they?
Speaker 3:I think they put out Austin at one time. Okay, yeah, you're right, they did. Yeah, that was, that was years ago. But they end up reconciling their differences and going back. But a dollar forty a mile fifty one cents a minute, man, that would be sweet. But yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens in the vote tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's, it's tomorrow, which I was like dang, oh, that's tomorrow. The time thing is huge, I mean. I mean I think we literally get like ten cents a minute.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not even sure if it's that much, or maybe like eight, six or eight cents.
Speaker 1:So if you think about it, check, not that you can't do math, but I mean just me thinking about it. If it was a 20 minute ride, it would be ten bucks, right, Roughly ten bucks, just for time. Right, I mean some of those rides like you wouldn't get ten bucks for the, the entire fare for 20 minute drives.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just think a nice, nice hour long trip that's 30 bucks just on the time. Right, if you're on interstate you're racking up the miles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's great, but they wanted to do the minimum of. What did I say? $15, though I mean again, it's maybe, it's not Obviously, it's probably like, just when you pick up the fare, the second you drop it off, you know you're off the clock, right? Say, I don't know, it's just, it is what it is. You know, if it happens, it happens If they get benefits. I mean, I'm not, if it happened here, I wouldn't say no and I wouldn't stop driving, but I still prefer it the way we currently have it. Yeah, in my, and I'm sure you do too. Yeah no doubt.
Speaker 1:If you don't, then we're gonna. We're definitely gonna find a new co-host.
Speaker 1:He's like fuck you, tom. Yes, we're gonna have the pick this year. We said it's September 14th. Where can you stay over and party? Well, we, we are thinking about renting a house which you probably should start poking around on that on Airbnb somewhere in town to get a bunch of rooms. So as long as you don't come in my room and try to touch me inappropriately, tom, we're okay. Moving on speaking, I'm trying to be funny, but then a national driver fatally shoots, passenger after a ledge kidnapping. So let's talk about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this one, you know, obviously strikes close to home, nashville's 60 miles south of me. I'm down there quite a bit, whether it be driving or, you know, one of our son.
Speaker 1:Wait, you sit down there. It's, isn't it, north of you.
Speaker 3:No, no south.
Speaker 1:I'm a fucking idiot. Tennessee's under.
Speaker 3:No, no, no geography on the show.
Speaker 1:In my head every time you were going north, in my head like I'm going to Nashville, I just figured you're going up, I'm just. No. Hey guys, just because I'm a year and new, older doesn't mean I'm any smarter.
Speaker 3:No, not wiser, no wiser, yeah. But yeah, yeah, nashville's 60 miles, 60, 65 miles south, okay, the Bowling. So I'm down there quite a bit. I was down there actually Sunday night picking my wife up from the airport.
Speaker 3:But yeah, so the story the super driver had a passenger, a 23 year old guy, as a passenger. Apparently, they got into some kind of altercation. It says they ran a drive through at a McDonald's down on Broadway. I don't know if he just pulled into the McDonald's to try to settle the altercation, and our feel is, you know, it didn't say if they was about going through there, but he tried to call 911 and talk through his ear pod, but the dispatcher sounds like wasn't picking up that it was as critical a situation as it was Okay. So he ended up calling him back and saying that he had shot the guy and when the police got there they found the passenger. He was dead. He had a loaded gun of his laying on the ground and then the driver had laid his gun in his seat of his vehicle.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I mean it's going to be interesting to see what the rest of the story is as it shakes out, but it just goes to show that every ride that you take, you have to be alert, you have to know. You know kind of, keep your whereabouts with you about you, because you don't know what's going to happen. Things can turn in an instant. You can have just a calm ride and it can just go to shit in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's interesting. You know again we've talked about this before how you got to be careful, what you read in the paper or online and stuff. But I read that article and it just said he showed a gun. Now like in my head I mean, what do you do in that situation? Even if you did carry, I don't know. Like you don't know what happened. Now, hopefully you had a dash cam. But this is like Do you automatically shoot somebody that brandishes a firearm? I mean, I guess if it's pointed at you, that's a different story.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean in the article. It says passenger became agitated, pulled a gun and began making threats.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I don't know it's. It's kind of like because, remember, I mean obviously you know, once you take somebody's life like it's not, yeah, that sucks. Um, I'm sure you know. I don't know, but I'm sure the passenger probably was a piece of shit. Um you know what I mean, but it just, it still is like when you take somebody's life not that I've ever done that, obviously, um, but it just, man, that guy's got to live with that, you know, forever too, and it's traumatizing for me as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's. I don't think it's anything. Anybody's whatever want to do, yeah, but if it comes down to them or me, you know I'm coming home to my family.
Speaker 1:If I can't anyway. Yeah, I know, I'm not being negative on that driver at all, I just sure.
Speaker 3:I just wish I knew more details, like Right, yeah, and I'll see if I can um get some more details about what happened, if they've released anything else, and maybe follow up on it, maybe next week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, be curious. Um well, when we're going to sign Mark to do that, is it Mark, our, our research guy now?
Speaker 3:That's yeah, that's right. We talked about it on the last show.
Speaker 1:Was it? Was it on the regular show or is it it was after the show? That's like, Mark, you need to, you need to be our research guy, Our fact checker, the fact checker. But yeah, it was interesting to see if he gets charged with anything. Um, that's like, God dang, get a dash cam.
Speaker 3:Like definitely have a dash cam for sure.
Speaker 1:It would be cut and dry almost. If you had a dash cam, I mean at night, it might be a little, a little bit of an issue, but but it's going to help you.
Speaker 3:They're going to be able to hear what's going on. That's true. Even if they can't see what's going on, you're going to be able to hear at least what's going on. Yeah, hey, mark, $3.50 an hour.
Speaker 1:I think we can do that. We can afford that for sure. Like we can do that, no problem, let me get a contract out to you. Um, okay, moving on, we had talked about or we had seen this and I got super fucking excited. So it says oh so I didn't bleak her name out Shawanta, we have adjusted your earnings for certain electric vehicle trips that you took between 2022 and 2023 and you have received an additional payment. You can view this transaction and the earnings section of your Uber app. So, of course, I just read electric trip, additional payment, because my ADD just skipped over. It was 2022 to 2023, like not in 2023. So I was like holy shit, like this is amazing. Immediately ran to my Uber app and I saw $0, nothing there. So I went back and re-read it. But these are some of the bonus. Here's another picture that people were getting for this. I mean $2,200.
Speaker 3:That's. That's a decent cheddar there.
Speaker 1:And I don't know. I never really found out. I dig, dug around a little bit Like do they not get the dollar that they were promised? Or something Like it seems like you would. We would have heard about that if they were being promised a dollar and they weren't getting it. I mean it would be all over the pages.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, Drivers would be complaining, yeah. So it's like most of the stuff from from either of these companies. You, we really don't get any explanation about what's going on. They're just like here. This is what it is.
Speaker 1:I often wonder if it's, they got silently sued somehow and then they're like hey, bro, you better pay this shit out, or we're going to bring it public, or I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it could be, could be a condition of the payout or whatever that you know not to talk about it.
Speaker 1:Well, in my head I'm like, okay, if it was a dollar a mile, that driver did 2,200 trips for that for that one year. I mean that's a lot of trips.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's getting it.
Speaker 1:I mean that's. I'm not going to do the math, but I mean I guess if you're full time working a ton of hours, you could probably do it. But holy smokes.
Speaker 3:Math and geography on the same night. What the hell's going on.
Speaker 1:I know this is ridiculous, but yeah. So if you ended up getting this payout, I'd be curious if Uber talked to you at all other than what the pictures we had, if you really knew exactly what it was, because I couldn't really find anything on it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:If anybody out there has gotten a payout about that, you know, shoot as an email and let us know what's going on For sure.
Speaker 1:All right, larry, this is just a funny one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is good. So most of us have. You know, newer cars has the tire pressure indicator that you can look at and see the tire pressure in your car. So this is a text that somebody sent his buddy for people listening to the podcast. The show's always tires and they're at 93, 97, 96, 94 PSI and obviously this guy thinks it's a percentage. He's like hey, I can't get these tires to 100%, no matter how much air I put them. What the fuck? You know, I think I got bad tires. And somebody says you're so close, don't give up now. Sometimes you have to use hot air to get the 100%. He's like thanks, I need that encouragement. For a moment I was worried I might be doing something wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's crazy. I think they would have burst by then.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't think you could get that much PSI in car time.
Speaker 1:So I remember, like when I was doing lawn care, you could overinflate the tires and it would like bust the bead or whatever. Do our like regular tires have, like a bead, like that? I mean, these are, like you know, machine tires, so it's more, less techy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:I wonder if it could blow a tire like that, because those things are just so damn thick.
Speaker 3:But, mark, we're going to need you to research this for us.
Speaker 1:Maybe we'll pay you $3.50 per research, that's even. That's probably a more favorite.
Speaker 3:Let's, don't get crazy now.
Speaker 1:Come on, okay so this, this is interesting about Instacart. Yeah so so this on Reddit, this is somebody that actually read the new terms of service, which I kind of recommend you do, even though I haven't done it because I just don't fucking care, but if you find things, you might find things out like this. So, 3.4 and the Instacart new terms of service you understand and agree that if you are dissatisfied with the payment for a particular delivery opportunity, you may negotiate for an increase of that payment with Instacart by contacting community support. Instacart will consider any such request in good faith, but shall not be obligated to remit remit payment other than as set forth in the shopper app. So, you know, it's whatever. It's not like anything crazy, but it does open up thought about, you know, complaining more. I mean, as it goes viral. I wonder if people are going to be bitching all the time. You know about to. You know, I mean, if it's slow that day to get paid shitty, you'll spend time chatting with support. I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know. I'm not too familiar with the shopping apps. I signed up for them and then COVID hit like a week later, and I never ended up doing either Instacart or ship. Yeah, I mean, it's fairly standard working, I would think. You know they always give the power to themselves. They always say that you know you got to buy by these rules or you can't sue us, it's got to go to mediation. Yeah, something like that. They try to cover themselves.
Speaker 1:I don't know if we ended up talking about this, but when we'd um, there was something in the terms of service. I don't know why we didn't talk about this. We probably should pull it back, but I remember it was my article, but it's towards the end and it really should have been at the beginning. But it talked about when you do get deactivated, you have to do like. In the terms of service, there's steps you have to take to actually do it. I don't know about that.
Speaker 3:I don't think so.
Speaker 1:So, instead of just sending a generic email to support, like why I was deactivated, there's certain steps, like all these platforms have, that really can get good results if you do it in those proper steps.
Speaker 3:Which none of us know because we don't read the terms.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the thing, it's in the terms of service and if you follow these steps not saying that you'll get it back, but you'll get a more detailed response and try to figure it out, cause, honestly, I feel like a lot of it is just technology detecting fraud or something like that, and it may not very well, it might not be that, but if you just say, hey, it wasn't fraud, you send it back to some you know, possibly AI bot that this is your response, it's not gonna do anything. So I'll try to find that article and maybe we'll talk about it on the next show. But it just brought to mind when I was. We were talking about terms of service for Instacart, but it's worth the shot. I know Gabe's a big Instacarter. I mean, hopefully, if he has a problem, and I mean maybe they will.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Maybe they're getting more driver friendly. Doubt, it Can always hope so. Real quick. While Larry was talking, I add something that I didn't have on the show plan, but it has to be Instacart related, so I think it's Instacart. Yeah. So it says turn on price tag lights to find items faster. So this is you were looking at the shopping app. Just tap the icon next to the item you're looking at, for a light will flash on the items price tag so you can find it right away. And I'm like oh my gosh. So I know you can't see it if you're listening to the podcast, but the price is there and there's a little green light. That's amazing.
Speaker 3:That is really cool. That is something helpful.
Speaker 1:That is helpful, it is so helpful Are you think they're using, like near field communication? Is that how they're able to do that? Yeah, probably.
Speaker 3:I mean, I would think that's probably what they're using, but I imagine there's a couple of different ways they could do it but, it is really cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think about it, though, and I feel like the. I know Android phones have had NFC for a long ass time, but like iPhone just recently added it, like in the last couple of years. So like if you're using an older iPhone, I don't know if it would work, but that's so fucking cool.
Speaker 3:It would work on my phone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yours, geez, yours stopped updating two years ago or three years ago, but that's insane to me, like there's nothing more frustrating than looking and you're in a hurry and you're like you know you're probably standing right in front of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's right there in front of your face, but there's 15, 18, 25 different price tags right there and you're trying to find the one you need, yeah, so you end up like that and just grab your attention. That's cool.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, obviously you still have to be kind of in the general area, because if you're 10 feet one way you're not gonna see the light. I would need to say, hey, bitch down here, like, can I have a little speaker on it? Like, or like, just like an audible, or like, why couldn't it have like a little map on it? Although, again, it could get you there. But, like, once you're there, you still need to like find where it is.
Speaker 3:Find it on the shelf.
Speaker 1:I thought that was super cool, that technology. That is something that's super useful. So, all right, real quick. Octopus tablet, the tablet of choice. I just got a notice that I need to turn mine on. I'll probably turn it on for tomorrow and just drive around in my car and then it would be like it's fine. I know you can set it away and you can do that on the app, so I probably should just do that. But they do get after if you go for a long time without driving.
Speaker 1:But octopus tablet for those that don't know, or living under a rock is a tablet that they send out to you and you can play trivia. Well, no, your passengers can play trivia. This is kind of funny, like speed match and photo hunt. That's kind of old stuff, but like, what's really cool is that you get paid up to $100 a month Right now. They have a three times referral bonus going on right now, yep. So I think you you know, if you're set at 20, you can get different levels. You set 20, obviously 60, and so on and so forth as you go up for the bonus. But yeah, it's a real simple thing. The tech works really good. I love that. They like update it regularly, like it's spring now and so the the graphics are spring, and then when March Madness comes, they'll have contests about that. It's like really, really driver focused.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they do a fantastic job. I can't recommend them highly enough. It's just free money for drivers. I mean, you get the tablet, you set it up. It doesn't take long at all to set up in the car, you plug it in and you really don't have to do much after that because it will go to sleep if it doesn't detect motion for a certain amount of time. So it'll go to sleep, so you don't have to turn it off and on every time. They recommend that you bring it in once a week and charge it inside. I've never done that. I'm on the stays of my car.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, I kept it at one time, I think, when I was out of town. But yeah, you can set yourself to a way. When I had my rec back in September, I set myself to a way for about a month. But even if you set yourself to a way, if you start driving before, it's still gonna register your rides and give you credit for it, because, you might not know, I didn't know when I was gonna get a new car, so I didn't know the exact date to set it away. So I just set it away for a month and I came back in like three weeks and started driving again, so I get back in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're great. So the link is in the description. If you wanna get a tablet ordered, but you order it tonight, it'll be here in like three days. They ship it out right away and I've never had a more focused or a driver focused company out Well, hooper and Lifthart and Driver Focus, let's be frank but like a company that supports drivers out there, that's just been so great and never had an issue with them, so check them out. All right, larry. What's this awkward? Stop? We're talking about?
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, this is a. I think it's what DoorDash.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 3:So this is the DoorDash order. The Dashor gets a message from the customer that says instructions, leave at my door, please do not make other stops before mine, because my food gets cold, thank you. And the Dashor writes it back and says well, that's awkward, because you're my third stop. Yeah, so when you're doing dashing, if you're doing multiple orders, the app will tell you what order to deliver them in. Yeah, and they won't let you change it anymore. Nope, so you have to go to whatever order that they set.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So if you want your food first, I guess throw in a big tip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think all the apps as a customer have a priority thing. Maybe I'm not sure on DoorDash I never was delivered. I never had to deliver a priority order. But I know Uber Ease does, but I don't. I guess I shouldn't say they all do. I assume they do. It's just a way to make extra money, right? But yeah, I've taken a few triples but usually they're so close together, so like, as long as you're not like multi-apping with another app, you should go into one side town to the other side town.
Speaker 1:Whoa man, I used to do like a DoorDash and an Uber Ease and like I know my area where I live enough that when I had to come in I'd be like, okay, I know, that's the same direction. It might not be like they might be four miles apart, but at least it's like it's all going west or it's all going north or whatever. But there've been a couple of times I screwed up and I'm like, oh man, it used to be Uber and maybe they I mean, I haven't really noticed but like DoorDash would be strict on the times they are strict, but Uber, like you could deliver it 45 minutes later, they could give a shit. So I would always typically do the DoorDash first.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that used to. It would make me anxious Just listen to you when you used to do that with the multi-app stuff.
Speaker 1:I know I complained about it. I was like, oh shit. I took a double and they're like four miles apart.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I would take doubles when I did food delivery, but only on the same app.
Speaker 1:I would never do.
Speaker 3:yeah, I didn't do two apps at a time, that just gave me too much audacity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was kind of stressful. I don't know why I did it and honestly, unless it's an amazing order from the other one, it's really probably not worth the stress in the hassle just to make an extra couple of bucks. You know what I mean Exactly, and especially now that I got an electric car. Then it cost me 17 miles a gallon to drive that bitch around. So okay, so this is a DoorDash chat. Let me bring this right up, post up so I can figure out.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so this was an alcohol delivery to a high school, said he picked up an order for two bottles of sparkling wine. When I get to the customer's location, it's a high school and I have this chat with support. I get back to my area and accept the next order it's the same one and have the next conversation. Let's see. Let me get this over here. Doordash customer support. If customer is within the legal age, you can deliver, but if you're not comfortable, I will cancel the order. Shall I proceed with the cancellation Driver, I cannot deliver. I'll call it to a high school because it's not legal, is it Like I assume I don't think it's illegal.
Speaker 3:I don't even think it's. There's no law against delivering, I mean delivering to a student who's underage is definitely illegal, but just I mean. And then sure, the school has rules against it having alcohol delivered there. But as far as it being against the law to deliver alcohol there, I don't think that's a law. That's on the books.
Speaker 1:Well it's funny as you go through school yourself and your kids ah, it's a drug-free zone, it's a weapon-free zone. No one ever says alcohol, like, could you bring? Like if you were of age? I'm saying, and it wasn't during school hours, I mean, would you get a ticket for bringing booze into the school to like have a beer during the summer while you're prepping for your students? I don't know. I just I've never heard anyone say anything about alcohol. I assume it's fucking not as frowned upon.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm sure it's against the rules for the school, but yeah, Like I said, I just don't. I don't think it's a law on the books that says no alcohol.
Speaker 1:Mark get it done. So the tech support said I have canceled the order. Thank you, you've been issued 2350. I'm like holy shit, 2350. So then he says you know, it's the AI, how are you able to see the driver? So he says what's the problem?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And the driver says hi, are you able to see my previous chat and previous order? This is the same order, same customer location as high school and it's against local laws to possess alcohol and school property. I need to be on the sign, please. I'd also like to suggest stopping this customer from using your platform to commit the crime. It won't look good with door dashing delivering alcohol to schools. They don't give a fuck. Wait while I call the customer and confirm this. He's like either way, I'd like to be on the sign because I'm not comfortable doing so. Driver support just spoke with the customer and she's not inside the school. His address is outside the school. You can continue with the order and deliver this. And then he's like on a sign me. So I often wonder okay, I'm not. I don't know. I can't believe I'm saying this. Am I defending door dashing support? But maybe it was a house right next to it and just the pin drifted over. I don't know. I mean that happens quite a bit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and that could very well be the case. It was something right next door or across the street, something like that, because we all know that the GPS sometimes isn't perfect.
Speaker 1:No, it's often in big buildings like that. It often drifts Like when you roll into condos to pick up a passenger, too, your pin will be weird because whatever that's where it is, but then the passenger will be like three buildings over. So Mark's got a law here in Michigan. The model code of conduct, student conduct 2019, prohibits the possession, sale or use of alcohol or illicit drugs on school grounds or at school related events. But it's code of student conduct. What about?
Speaker 3:the thoughts.
Speaker 1:That's not like a law and it doesn't solve. Yeah, it prohibits it. I mean obviously drugs, like if it's Coke it's illegal, regardless of where it is. I mean, obviously marijuana is a little different, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:No alcohol.
Speaker 1:Traveler says no, alcohol and school property. I mean Mark says, isn't it illegal? I think it's gotta be right, it's gotta be fucking illegal, like it can't be a thing, but like I don't know. I mean you can drink at church Like no one bats an eye at that. So I mean maybe your church, larry? But yeah, they do.
Speaker 3:I'm getting a race like down here? Yeah, they would definitely be batting an eye.
Speaker 1:Well, the Catholic church. I mean they regularly have booze there. They all have like cookouts. I mean Catholics are a little different, but yes yes, definitely. The crazy part is that it only goes back to 1998. Why? Why it took that long for somebody to drink booze on campus. Who knows, that's hilarious.
Speaker 3:So okay. So liquor control code Okay. So somewhere it has to specify high school and below Right. That's weird. I know most college campuses at the sporting events also alcohol.
Speaker 1:Well, they do. Now I just realized that was your story For some reason.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Some reason no one, I didn't fill in seven. It like kind of I missed it when I was loading it and I just assumed this was my story.
Speaker 3:but yeah, you started with it and I was like I'm just letting go.
Speaker 1:Let him go. You, just, you, just, he's a year older.
Speaker 3:I don't want to kick him when he's down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm feeling bad about feeling older. You don't want to slam him on his birthday, that's right. Next week is fair game. Okay, so this is the one we were talking about, the plan B. So it's interesting on Reddit like some of these groups have passengers in it, you know, or customers in it, but it's like Uber Eats and there's 141 members. I would assume that's drivers, but I think maybe this is just for passengers, or God damn it customers.
Speaker 1:Uber driver canceled my plan B order and asked me to reconsider and quotes Okay, so where do I start? Basically, I need to order a plan B pill. On the fly, stuff happens it was pouring outside and other stuff to get done, so I figured I just Uber Eats it, because why not the options there? The guy accepts the order and he's on a bike, so it took him about 40 minutes just to get to CVS. What the hell you, driving on a bike for 40 minutes, Toot his priest?
Speaker 1:Then he sits outside the CVS for an additional 30 minutes before sending this message. Am I crazy? Or is he saying he won't deliver the pill, knowing it what it would do, and ask me to reconsider? So he says hi, thank you for the tip, but not sure how much it was, but the total order was around $17 and the average around six. Although I'm grateful, I cannot accept and deliver this, knowing what it'll do. The Apple reassign you a new driver within the next few minutes. Hope you reconsider, god bless. And she says I have no idea what that means, but okay, and he goes. I don't know what he's talking about. The total was 60 for that one little pill and I tip $10 through the CVS app.
Speaker 1:I'm kind of embarrassed and also a little upset, not really sure what to do. He hasn't even canceled the order yet, so I can't even get reconnected to a new driver. So yeah, the second comment are you sure you didn't order from Uber Preach? Third comment I hope Instacart doesn't get wind of this. They would take a look at my fat ass and refuse to deliver cookies. Deleted comment. That can't be good. So obviously it's in his religion he doesn't support that. I'm totally fine with like I don't have a problem how anyone thinks, but could he just fucking cancel the order? Like, just cancel the order, then Don't have a damn conversation about it, right?
Speaker 3:there's no need for that. I mean, he was doing this on what DoorDash?
Speaker 1:I think it's Uber Eats.
Speaker 3:Uber Eats, so I don't know if he would have been able to see beforehand what he was picking up or not?
Speaker 1:No, you don't see it till, you get there.
Speaker 3:Well, first of all, what are you doing? Doing Uber Eats on a bike going 40 minutes. How are you making any money? How are you making any money? Yeah, Taking you 40 minutes to get there. Who knows how long it's gonna take to deliver it, and who's doing?
Speaker 1:can you just deliver on a bike, no matter what area you're in? I don't think, like I don't think you can do that in Grindrath. I mean, maybe you can. I've never even looked. Yeah, I've never considered it.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't consider it.
Speaker 1:No, but 40 minutes. So he was gonna make $17. You're gonna drive 40 minutes already to make 17.
Speaker 3:Okay, not Right and we don't know how far. Yeah, don't know how far. Her way she is Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so.
Speaker 2:That makes sense.
Speaker 1:So you said first thing, then you had a second point.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, if he gets there and he finds out what it is and it's against his beliefs and he just really has a strong conviction, then that's fine. Just cancel the order. Does nobody need to say anything to her. There's no need to talk about it, preach about it, anything like that. Just immediately cancel the order it might be assigned to somebody else and go on your way.
Speaker 1:I get really conflicted on people. I mean, obviously it's something to abort. I mean not even abort a baby.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It's probably not even conceived yet. I don't even know how the plan B works. I know it's before everything, but it does bother me that people protest. That. It really bothers me. I like that they have the right to do that and I'm for that, but it just really bothers me that that happens. But that's not what this show is about. It makes me think about that. Like that guy, it's almost like he's protesting, he's telling her she's I mean, I guess he wasn't mean about it per se.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I thought if he was going to say something, I thought he went about it.
Speaker 3:What he said was not bad he said I can't know what this will do. I can't do it. It's not like you said. Oh my gosh, I can't believe you did this and you're killing it. He didn't go on preach either or put her down and think that. So it could have been a lot worse that way. But again, there's no reason really to even say and maybe he was just trying to. You can look at it a lot of ways. He could just be courtesy. Hey, I'm sorry I've gone all this way, but now I know what it is. I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't smile, at least. But it should have canceled, right away.
Speaker 1:The problem that bothers me too is like and again, this is completely situational what if she was raped that night? What if she had a guy friend over there and it went crazy? You know what I mean? We just got to. It is what it is. I'm fine with him. I mean I'm actually not horrible about the message he sent, but I mean he's kind of lecturing her a little bit, like just cancel and move on. I totally respect that. You're an independent contractor. You're 100% welcome to take what you want and what you don't want. Just cancel and move on.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Yeah, just move on, let somebody else have the order. And why was he outside the store for 30 minutes? I mean, was he debating on whether he could?
Speaker 2:He was probably praying for her Take this he could have been.
Speaker 3:He could have been praying whether he should do this or who knows but he's praying for her. That's a long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I also think people don't understand time when I'm the same way. So I've had a few beers and ordered like food and I often, you know, you think it's quicker than it is and you're like this should be her right now, you know you just you lose, not that Sam was drunk or she was drunk, but you just kind of lose the concept of time because you like order it and then you put your phone down, right, I was drinking and gaming and then I was like where's my ice cream? And it only been like 10 minutes. I'm like the fucking dasher isn't even to the story yet. So I've been wondering if he really was out there for 30 minutes or it really did take him 40 minutes, but I'm not saying it didn't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cause if she I mean she waited an hour and I mean it would have been 40 minutes for him to get there and another 30 minutes him sitting in there, so I aren't 10 minutes. I mean I think I would have canceled the order and we ordered it or something.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't support, or something by that point. I don't know the time limit. I'm playing B, but I figure stuff like that. You don't have to be in a hurry, like if you get it in two hours is probably not, but even like if you're, if I'm getting groceries, okay, it took him two hours. I don't give a shit as long as it gets delivered. But Right, I mean I don't want my five guys delivered two hours later.
Speaker 3:Not so well. Not so well, no.
Speaker 1:Larry, let's talk about Gopoff, which again they have. You have Gopoff by you.
Speaker 3:We do remember it sounded like they running out of the back of the liquor bar.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right.
Speaker 3:It's a little shady door in the back of the liquor bar.
Speaker 1:How the hell does Bowling Green, kentucky, have Gopoff but Grand Rapids, michigan, does not have Gopoff, the second biggest city in the state? You sure they're not there, I'm sure of it, I mean. So I haven't tried to go online in a while. I mean, I have the app. It says the location. I assume they would be like, hey, we're starting delivered. You still want to deliver? They haven't sent one of those emails out. I don't know it's the craziest thing, but as far as I know, it's not here.
Speaker 3:I need to try to get on. I tried to get on originally when they announced they were coming here and then something had. I don't know, I think maybe it was before right around time, covid hit and they didn't come for a while. And then they did get here and I tried to log in and something was. My password was wrong or expired or something, and I never could get it reset.
Speaker 1:No, matter what I did, I had issues with it too. I had to go to a couple of different emails to get it reset and finally did. So that's a good way to check too. I usually would go to my try to order it on the you know and say can't deliver or not available.
Speaker 3:I need to check in see if I can get back on or get on the platform for the first time. So only I've done Gopoff, but it was through Uber.
Speaker 1:Eats. Oh yeah, that's right. So I heard that in just like any area, if you're delivering to a more underprivileged area, you're never gonna get tipped.
Speaker 1:You know, what I mean. So you gotta cherry pick those two. But I don't know if you can cherry pick, I don't know if you, just if they tell you. I literally don't know anything about it and they've kind of been out of the news lately, as far as I mean when you, when you shared that I was like fucking Gopuffs in the news, like Exactly yeah, you don't hear much about them, or I don't hear much about them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but this is a big deal. I mean. So Gopuff has partnered with Robinhood, which is a financial app that a lot of people have heard about before they partner with them to bring give access to gig workers to some retirement tools that probably a lot of people who are just doing gig work you don't have access to, that kind of stuff. So they're actually giving access to an IRA. They're actually gonna match it 2% for the first year. That's cool, and is that what it said the first year?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right, that's correct. The first year 2%.
Speaker 3:So I mean that's free money, whether it's through here or you have an IRA at work or anything like that. If anybody's ever gonna match anything, make sure you're at least contributing that amount toward your retirement, cause that is absolutely 100% return, free money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I told my son when he turned 18, I'm like you need to start putting like 50 bucks a month into like mutual fund and like if you just do the same amount 50 bucks a month never increase it by the time you retire. There's like over a million dollars in there. I don't know if he ever did Like, if I could give any advice. If you're young, start early and you don't have to put a shit ton in, just do it.
Speaker 3:You don't? Yeah, just start out. I mean, put as much as you can, of course, especially if you have access. You know if you're making good money and Well, yeah, you know when you get. When I turned in a financial podcaster, or everything.
Speaker 3:Exactly when you get a raise. You get a better job or you get a raise at your work. You know, don't just increase your lifestyle, increase your savings amount too. Bump that up whenever you get a raise. You know you're gonna cost a living raise whatever. Bump up the amount you're putting toward your retirement Cause. Like Jason said, you don't have to do a lot, but it's just the power of compound interest over time. It's amazing, it is amazing.
Speaker 1:You don't have to do a lot when you're. You start young, but when you're old like 30,. No, not 30,. Like mid 30s. If you're starting mid 30s you're gonna have to start hammering it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you gotta put a lot more money in there and you're still not gonna have as much as somebody who started early. Yeah, so they give you access to that IRA and also financial counseling through a company called Green Path Financial. So they're gonna give you access, unlimited access, to a dedicated phone hotline for any financial questions you may have, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1:I thought that was even better than the match. Like anytime we can call and just ask a question, like clearly they're capable of giving you a cause, it's always where the like finances right, Like to give advice, like that you have to like be certified or something I don't know. Sure, there's like laws around it, so like to be able to call them and then give you a legitimate answer of like yeah, no, this is a good way to go. That's amazing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so and then I just in this article they list some more things that they've done in the past. They launched instant cash out, which they say 90 or 80% of the people who are doing GoPub until every people use the instant cash out. Discounts on groceries and fuel, partnerships with insurance companies, tax support with, you know, H&R, Block Stry, some of those, some of those other places, and just some other things that they've done to kind of make it easier or better for delivery people. So that's gonna be my machine between now and next week. I'm gonna see if I can't get back on or get on the GoPuff app.
Speaker 1:Well, I would try it for us, just as an experiment, because I literally know no one that's like. I know Jamie from Tennessee has dabbled in it, but like I don't talk to her enough, she did it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she did it pretty steady.
Speaker 1:Oh, did she admit so more than a dabble.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it was one of her pretty regular gigs that she did, but I haven't talked to Jamie in quite a while.
Speaker 1:I know I gave her a couple of shout outs a while ago and she chimed in, so I'm glad that she's doing okay. I always just feel bad. Like I told John John's one of the OGs of the group. I said you literally need to tell somebody in your friend group if you fucking die, that they need to let us know. You know what I mean, and not that I don't care for Jamie as much as I do for John. I'm just saying I don't have a relationship with her. She's been an avid supporter of the show, financially and all that stuff. But I was like John, you need to because like you live in North Carolina, like you could be dead and we wouldn't. Not that it would change anything. He's already dead, but at least we would know a piece of mind.
Speaker 3:I've told my wife that. So if I kick the bucket, she will send you a message.
Speaker 1:Well, I think we'll know, because you're on the show now. Like if I buy myself for the next six weeks, well, Big dark screen there on Wednesday night on my side, yeah no kidding. So traveler, said his dad told him 20% of gross since I was 16. So, traveler, you're 50 and retired. Holy shit, that's insane. Well, no, because he does gig work. But I mean, that's not like I don't want to say it's not a regular job because people get butt hurt about that, but it's not like a W2, I should say.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean kinda like me.
Speaker 1:I mean 20%, it's a lot of fucking money, of your gross too, I mean that's a lot of money to put away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I tell you what I mean these people that are and they call it the fire community financial independence, retire early, like some of these people put like 40, 50, 75% of their money they save and they can retire in 10 years. I mean they work hard for 10 years, they're set for the rest of their life. That's amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I don't know how that works. If you're young, how can you draft? Like, can you draft all that stuff? Can you take money out of that, Like, if you're retired and start living off the interest is it, can you do that before retirement?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you put them in different buckets, Like some of them, like 401ks. Obviously there's restrictions on some of them that you can't take out to your certain age. But you're not gonna put all your money into that. There's also just regular taxable accounts that you'll be putting money into that you can use until you get to. What is it? 57 and a half, I think, is what it is.
Speaker 1:Okay, well shit, since the interest rates are so high, on a freaking savings account you can get five. Put 250,000 in a savings account at 5%, even shit, you can live off that.
Speaker 3:Five. Yeah, they're not gonna say that way.
Speaker 1:No, of course not, but once they come down, yeah, it's nice, it's nice.
Speaker 3:I have a Citibank account that's got. That's where we put any money, that that we were putting money away for the kids in college and stuff like that. Yeah, you used to draw, you know, there for a while when interest rates were down so low we were making, you know, 1%.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Now it's making like 5.05 or something, yeah, which is great. So interest can work for you, I guess, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, good on GoPuff. I task you of trying to get back on the app and see, I will do that.
Speaker 3:I'm writing that down right now. Yeah, that'd be perfect.
Speaker 1:And then the last thing is a video, our only video. It's either we have a ton of pictures or a ton of videos, so this is about a minute 30. It's about a driver trying to deliver into, like an apartment complex where you kind of go through the door and there's like what do you call it? The greeter or the doorman or something like that. So the guy that you see in the wheelchair is actually the manager of the doorman of this apartment complex. So we'll watch it. And then it gets kind of a little shitty there.
Speaker 2:So this is the astonishing moment a fight breaks out between an Amazon worker and a wheelchair bound building manager. In footage obtained by Mail Online, ramin Razagi is seen confronting the delivery man. Cctv from the incident on February 15th then shows the delivery man unloading around four or five boxes onto the reception desk, which appears to anger Mr Razagi. The building manager tries to grab the Amazon workers bag, but the delivery man snatches it back and attempts to leave. However, he is then followed by Mr Razagi, who tries to grab him by the shirt and stop him from leaving. It's at this point that the Amazon worker appears to swing a punch at the building manager. Mr Razagi then gets up from the wheelchair and throws a punch himself before he ends up on the floor. The Amazon worker then tries to move away from Mr Razagi and dodges him before trying to exit the building. However, as he tries to leave, mr Razagi, still on the floor, grabs him by the legs until they both end up on the floor on the street outside. It's at this point that a second man arrives at the scene and pulls Mr Razagi off the Amazon worker and appears to deliver a punch to his head. He then appears to repeatedly land blows at Mr Razagi's face as he lies on the floor. The Amazon worker then goes back into the tower block to pick up some of the items he dropped during the altercation. Mr Razagi told MailOnline I have injured my ribs and my jaw. I just ask myself why the 35-year-old man was arrested.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 3:That is so many questions, so many questions.
Speaker 1:I read the article a little bit. I think in the Reddit it does pop out where it gives a article somewhere. Maybe not, but yeah. So I'm wondering what the manager was frustrated with. I often wonder if he wasn't supposed to leave the packages there or something. But he lets them in. He lets them through two sets of doors.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that didn't make any sense. No, he lets him in and then upset. Maybe he was upset about where he put them, maybe they had a special place that they were supposed to put packages and the delivery driver just refused to do it. I mean, without having more information, it's so hard to tell who's exactly in the wrong and I don't know.
Speaker 1:Do you know that for a fact? Mark Mark says the building manager wanted the Amazon guy to deliver the packages to the doors of each person. So all these damn apartment complexes, they all have different fucking rules and I am annoyed on it, honestly. If I can get the GPS to, let me leave it at the leasing center, even if it's at night. I'll leave them in the fucking just right in front door, like I'm not delivering. I don't have the maps, like Amazon's telling me to deliver. Well, not a fact. I assume you read it somewhere. I'm fine with that. I always say like I get all my shit from TikTok.
Speaker 1:I say take it with a grain of salt, but this is what I heard. But I mean, I'm not driving to each individual apartment, I don't care if this is your apartment rules. Amazon thinks they all go to the leasing office and that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3:So yeah, and that's on Amazon. So we're doing what we're told to do.
Speaker 1:It does make sense that there was an issue where he was leaving them, because it's like he left him. The guy was walking out and the manager grabbed him, like to get to his tension, like no, you need to do that. And I think the driver I mean obviously he lost his job, but I think the driver had every right to hit that guy I mean he's literally attacking him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know why you would grab somebody like that and, like I said, so many questions. And then when they got outside and the bystander starts wailing on the guy, he didn't even know what the situation is. Like this, you know, the Amazon driver could have stole something and he was trying to stop him and this bystander just starts wailing on the manager he doesn't know.
Speaker 1:Oh, so I found the article. Yeah, that guy got arrested, not the driver, but the guy that started wailing on him, cause it's like, oh, I'm sure, yeah.
Speaker 3:He didn't have any involvement in it. He just starts wailing on the guy.
Speaker 1:Mark says that place wasn't something like your Creek here either. That was apartment building at the castle, like the castle. I mean I'm saying, yeah, the castle's starting to get like your Creek, hey, jesper.
Speaker 3:Hey Jesper, what's going on, buddy?
Speaker 1:But yeah, it was very, very evident that that guy was like mad at the driver, but like he's in this motorized wheelchair right, he moved pretty good outside that wheelchair too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when he jumped up like that and through a punch, I'm like you wonder what I mean, what's going on? I mean you never know.
Speaker 1:I often wonder if he was. That was, like Mark said, is very nice. It was like a souped up. So I think a lot of older people drive those little, just those little scooters. Maybe that was like a souped up version of one of those and they can still walk, but like you know, but yeah, he got up to like punch that guy in the face. I was like holy cow dude, yeah, bring it down in that.
Speaker 3:So yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Well, Larry, are you driving this weekend as we wrap up?
Speaker 3:I will be driving this weekend. I'll probably be driving here in about 30 minutes.
Speaker 1:No way You're going out tonight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll go back out for a little while. I went out earlier today, got one decent ride down into Tennessee about 40, just 40, I think came up 42 minute drive Something like that.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's down in Tennessee, right? Just just to clarify Down, that would be, that would be Kentucky's up.
Speaker 3:So yeah, so just to remember this is a joke we I didn't have a do with Tennessee, but my cousin's living in Indiana we used to always tell him why doesn't Kentucky fall into Tennessee, Cause then Indiana sucks. But yeah yeah, Indiana, then Kentucky and then Tennessee's down, Gotcha.
Speaker 1:How did that ride pay out? Was it okay?
Speaker 3:It was pretty decent. Yeah, he took me pretty well. I think it ended up being 80 bucks.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, that's, that's amazing, that's like really good ride.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was. He was a pretty nice guy. He's had a vehicle down there that had broken down. Is it a shop down there? So he had to go down.
Speaker 1:Awesome. So I will not be out driving this weekend. As many know, I have listened to the show for years. I have volunteered for Laugh Fests every year, so you may see me downtown driving a BMW or a Jaguar or whatever, but I will be moving Laugh Fests people around, so it's a volunteer.
Speaker 3:That's not your birthday present from Reagan.
Speaker 1:No, no, I wouldn't get those pieces of shit cars anyway. Sorry, but they are fun to drive because they're you know we get them for a week. But something I volunteered for Laugh Fests is a charity event for Gildus Club, which they have Gildus Clubs all over the country. It's a grief support center that she started back in the day when she was on Saturday Night Live and she was actually married to. Gildner Radner was married to I forget his name. He was Willy Wonka back in the 50s or 60s. Whatever his name, what is his name? Gene?
Speaker 3:Wilder, wilder, gene Wilder.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were married and she had cancer and she kind of you know, and he really supported Gildus Club too. So it's kind of a in memory of her. So, anyways, I will be doing that this weekend. So if you see me around, say hi, don't run me over. And yeah, that's about it. Next week is a tip you in the app, Levi, looking forward to having him on for a B side. So that'll be interesting. And yeah, Mark, yeah, Sh sh Piff is gonna be here and it's gonna be amazing. We shut the hell up, Marcus. All right, guys, as always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit, and we will see you on the road. Good night Night, guys. This podcast is produced and edited by hey Guys Media Group. Want to start a podcast? Check out hey guys media groupcom Now.