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Episode #152 Grubhub can open your garage, 10k to some doordash drivers, and is 25% tip a good tip?
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Ever wondered how a weekend driving Lyft might pan out for you? Join us as we navigate Jesper's experience behind the wheel, providing insight into the app's functionalities and how it compares to Uber. We delve into the nitty-gritty, from surge jumps to incentives, we got it covered. We also touch on the potential growth opportunities for Lyft and what might be in store if they fail.
You'd be surprised at how TikTok can stir up a debate on tipping etiquette. We dissect a video of a driver who expected too much - because, hey, nice house equals generous tip, right? Wrong. We argue why drivers should never judge a book by its cover or, in this case, a tip by a house. Shifting gears, we explore the potential of Amazon Key and Octopus Tablet to revolutionize deliveries and support drivers.
In the final part of our gig economy exploration, we take you on a journey to India, home to Taskmo, the country's largest gig discovery platform. With its aim to digitize gig jobs, we'll discuss its impressive 220% YoY revenue growth. Rounding out the discussion, we examine DoorDash's new hourly pay option, whether it can incentivize drivers or if it's a ploy to punish multi-app drivers. Get ready for a wild ride through the winding lanes of the gig economy! Don't forget to buckle up.
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Hi guys, welcome to the gig economy podcast. Yes, we're just scared the shit in my ears. I wasn't. I wasn't looking at him, i was looking at something else. I was like, hello, i'm going to get a nice spike on that one. I love it. I hope you guys are having a good evening. This is episode 152,. I believe Grubhub can open your garage 10k to some DoorDash drivers and is 50% tip a good tip? Yeah, were you trying for a joke?
Jesper:No, no, no, It's. the story is just remarkably weird. We'll go to the very stupid. Yeah, very stupid.
Jason:Yeah, as Steve from Ritual Rodeo is. if you're listening to the show or watching it, please like, hit the like button, hit the subscribe button. I never say that I should, but I do notice. when I go to look at the stats I'm like wait, we've had, we had, a ton of viewers, but like three likes, like what the freak is going on.
Jesper:Hit the like and hit the subscribe. Hit the subscribe.
Jason:So yeah, yeah. So just going to jump into the Patreon real quick, just getting through some stuff. I'm going to change it up a little bit tonight. Love for you to join Patreon. We are doing a live Patreon tonight at 9.10 pm Eastern Standard Time.
Jesper:We are.
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Jesper:There you go. If you don't want to support that way, you can support us by signing up for our newsletter list. You can do that on the gig economy showcom And you do that to get notified when a new show comes out or whenever it lands. On Mondays, we generally send out a notice earlier, just before it lands, did you put one out this week.
Jason:Yeah, oh, you did a good job. Yeah, yeah, and I need to do the newsletter. I just realized my camera's messed up a little bit. I still haven't done that because I asked Jesper, give me something that you've done in your life.
Jesper:No, it's my fault, i mean, i just blame it on you.
Jason:A synopsis of what's going on in your life, so we'll get that out soon. Then we had the B side, that's B side last week.
Jesper:Yes, With. Eric. We had Eric on there. It was a good show.
Jason:Yeah, he sent me a text. He finally joined the Telegram group, y'all.
Jesper:I saw Yep, yep, yep, hey Janet. So yeah, he joined the Telegram group. Everybody guys, do not scare him away.
Jason:I love, Chris, when a new person gets in there because he like warns them to mute the chat and then said just be careful while kind of weirdos in here, And then I think I don't know who it is. It's a naked and delivered or something. I don't know if even Sahir or she. I don't even know, but posted some pretty graphic, like it was all cropped out. but you know what the girl was doing.
Jesper:I'm like, oh geez welcome to the group, Eric.
Jason:Or Janet, she's like what?
Jesper:is going on here. No, it's we. We, i mean, we are all adults, but we don't always act like it.
Jason:Yeah, yeah. Mostly we don't act like it, yep. So stories from the road, jesper.
Jesper:So I don't have well, i guess I mean I don't have a lot of stories. I did finally drive Lyft two weekends ago. I drove Friday and Saturday. They're pretty pretty well. I mean it was not a super busy weekend but I still did okay. I didn't have any specials at all from Lyft. I really only had maybe five excels and the rest was all you know X's.
Jason:Yeah, cause you can't filter. I know you can't filter, right, i'm left.
Jesper:I signed up for what the app I'm doing now You tell me.
Jason:Maximo.
Jesper:Maximo. I signed up for Maximo so that can filter for me. So I'll be doing that this weekend because I don't want to take all the stupid I still did. okay, i did like 450, which I think is that bad for no, with no incentives no incentives, it was Lyft only. I think I drove 18 hours, okay, no, no, not even that much. Probably probably 14 hours, maybe because I drove six hours Friday on it, yeah, 14, six hours Friday and eight hours Saturday. So, yeah, okay, so not too bad.
Jason:How has the Lyft platform been treating you as far as like functionality? Do you you find it? you'd like it better? Oh no.
Jesper:Not at all. It's kind of clunky compared to Uber and it crashes Does it. Yeah, It, just it's yeah.
Jason:I remember when I did did Lyft a lot. I preferred the Lyft app, but then, like I think, uber has come leaps and bounds with how good their app is. The app is just it's seamless.
Jesper:It's much, much more seamless, absolutely, and the app function of Lyft is just.
Jason:I can't remember. Does it, does the GPS keep you in the app or does it pop out to Google still? You can choose You can choose to do that I may just do that this weekend. To keep in the app and see oh, pop it out.
Jesper:Yeah, because I did this time. I kept it in and it's just not. I'm just not thrilled with it, I must admit I'm not thrilled with it, it's fine.
Jason:That's why I asked. I was just curious.
Jesper:And it took me a while to figure out how to how to switch back into an XT, how much money I made. And I gotta be careful now when I drive this weekend because now, after these new laws, you can't be touching your phone all the time. That's actually one thing I did like with Lyft that it just automatically accepts.
Jason:Yes.
Jesper:So that does seem to make sense when it comes to the new law, and I like that.
Jason:Well, it'll be nice with Maximo. It'll filter out those garbage ones so you don't have to like, get to your next ride and look at it and you're like I'm not taking this Right, exactly Because then you end up having to cancel it, And I did end up canceling a couple of them. Yeah, did you get the riot act from them like hey, no, please don't cancel too much. You didn't get an email from them or anything.
Jesper:No, Oh okay, No, I just yeah, But it's conky. I mean it is conky, but it's, it works And I made money.
Jason:Yeah, why not?
Jesper:And your Uber status is My Uber status is still non. I can't. I mean right now. My account is still active, but I have zero services. I mean I can't even deliver. That's crazy. And what happened is now is for checker my driving. The driving part is done, Yeah, my driving record is gone and good and accepted, but they're waiting for my background check. So I wonder When I checked it earlier today. they're saying now July 14th.
Jason:Okay, Have you committed any crimes in the last year? Nothing.
Jesper:I hope they would find Yeah.
Jason:I mean maybe a few children around that are that you don't know of, but other than that, Yeah, i mean, they didn't catch me. At least Julia wasn't on when I said that.
Jesper:No, of course I haven't done anything. It's just I mean, they keep blaming the law, they keep blaming that new Michigan law and I will not. that's the true.
Jason:I mean it's got to slow down at some point. I mean it's been going hard since what? April 15th?
Jesper:Something.
Jason:Yeah, so we're like three months ish, but right, exactly.
Jesper:But I mean you said there's some, some people online said it took about, took them about two months? Yes, it's been a month and a half for me now. Okay, So I'm going on on weeks. I mean, I think I'm going into this week in week seven, technically, so I think that's.
Jason:It's so interesting when you you don't realize how good you have something until it's gone. Oh yeah, you know what I mean. You're like God, i can't wait to get back on Uber. But you know, when you have Uber, you're bitching about it. This sock, blah, blah, blah blah.
Jesper:But I mean again with all the, with all the extras you get on the on the lift, when I mean cause they do, they do jump quite often, you know, with the, with the three and four, cause I drive at night, right Yeah, so you'll see the, the, the surge jumps on. You do get more surge with lift than you do with.
Jason:Uber. I would agree, And I think we've. I think Uber has figured that out and that's why they're offering the incentives because, they know that we're you're not going to get, So it must just be just like before, like there's less drivers on lift.
Jesper:I just don't understand why they haven't given me any specials, cause everybody else around me are getting specials on lift.
Jason:I don't understand how passengers take lift. I mean, when you see the comparison on prices, a lot like it's significant. It's stupid, unless people have like their monthly program or something. maybe that's why.
Jesper:but But again it was. I mean it was. It was not quite bumper to bumper, i mean, you know, ride to ride to ride, but it was pretty busy most of the night.
Jason:Yeah, so I don't have any ton of stories from the road, but I've been doing a lot of early morning flex routes like my last one was three, 30. And now let me tell you that's rough. Like doing the route isn't rough, but splitting up your sleep is really rough. Right, the last time I did, i actually did a route, came right home and went to bed. But normally I'll stay up, go play pickleball, do some things and then take a nap in the afternoon, but it's, i can only do it for a couple of days and I'm like okay, i need to sleep straight through the night. So that's been interesting.
Jason:One thing I'm finding is at the warehouse in Grand Rapids there's one in Walker on your end of town, and there's one in Kentwood, at least for Amazon Flex they don't bring the carts out because it's too hot, so we have to walk in there. In there because their warehouse is air conditioned. I'm surprised how cool it is in there. When the door came up, i'm like and they don't check us in right away, so they make us wait. So, technically, once they check us in, they have a 30 minutes to give us a cart or we get to walk away and get paid for free, so they won't check us in, they'll wait, make us walk to them with our driver's license, scan it, and then we have to get a cart out of it. But I'm like, okay, it's too hot. It's three in the morning or three in the afternoon. Even the morning it's like come on. Yeah, i'm not calling a bunch of woossies, but it's just like I mean yes.
Jason:I'm driving around an air conditioned car, but like you can't.
Jesper:it's a job, This is anyways, it's still a lot of people. I'm asking because I'm noticing now I'm getting a lot more packages in the morning, like when I wake up there. Then they used to be Yes.
Jason:I will let you know if you get Amazon. They start at three AM, so you'll pick up your route at three and by. I've been getting a lot of Walker routes, like I've been getting some close ad stuff. I'm Have you been dropping off with me? No, but my last route was two streets over from you, oh wow. Yeah, you just must have not had a package that day, probably not.
Jesper:Which is unreasonable because we get back into everyday reaction. I know.
Jason:We've slowed down a little bit, but yeah, it is a different experience. In the middle of the night I've seen I had one lady I rolled up at like four and she's like gosh, i haven't been to bed yet And I'm like pfft, shits lady She's out there just smoking, chain smoking, and then I had one guy taking his dog out at like four in the morning And I was like hey, he was like hello.
Jason:I was like here's your Amazon package. So I mean most people should know once they order it like they tell you like what we're delivering now in Flex they're only three hour routes typically is we're doing the same day stuff or next day. So if you order it today and you're getting it tomorrow, chances are a Flex worker is gonna deliver it. So the DSP has taken the regular stuff and we're doing the on demand quick, yada, yada.
Jesper:But that's good, though I mean, at least those routes are not for you. And are they profitable then?
Jason:They are in the morning. The earlier the route, the more you make as it goes. Later in the morning it's a little bit less, but it's still pretty decent. So Good.
Jesper:So you start the day already with a good price, let's say a hundred bucks, which?
Jason:is nice Cause then the pressure's off. So like if you have to get stuff done during the day or you have some issues or some car problems, like I've been having for the last two weeks, you're like, oh, I made a hundred bucks at least. So like, okay, I can relax.
Jesper:Do you then use your wife's car right now?
Jason:I haven't. She just worked a four day stretch, which it was the worst. She goes. I will never do this again, Four days in a row and over the holiday and stuff. So, I just stayed home since my car took a dump, so I'm picking it up tomorrow.
Jesper:Oh, okay, yeah.
Jason:So John says Jason, sure sounds like a Karen after starting to drive that bus. What do you mean? I don't understand the comment Like what am I being a Karen about? Oh, you mean because they're inside and I have to wait for my thing. Well, I mean, if I got to get out and potentially get shot by some asshole, like they should bring the cart to me.
Jesper:Potentially get shot.
Jason:Yeah, that'll happen, i'm telling you it's a wild, wild west in the morning. There There's some lady that had a big old rat wilder at 330 in the car. There's some lady that had a kid in her car Like I heard the kid talking and I'm like man.
Jesper:As in delivering drivers.
Jason:Yeah, i mean I get it. You got to make your money when you can, but there was a kid in there. I mean it's fine by the rules.
Jesper:No, I know, I know It is still tough though 330 in the morning.
Jason:I mean I guess if it's a young, i mean it spoke though It spoke. I mean it talked Like it was like having a conversation with mom, so I can see as a baby the baby will just sleep mom's schedule. You know what I mean.
Jesper:But yeah, it's tough, but I mean, i guess that is one of the benefits of this job, though, right, you're able to do that.
Jason:Yeah, and she can do it when she wants, and then she can take care of whatever business she needs to take care of the day And she won't have to pay for daycare. True daycare is a fucking joke.
Jesper:Oh my gosh, it's a deal, are you?
Jason:so glad you don't have little kids now Oh my gosh, yeah, insane.
Jesper:We were going back, even back when they were kids. we were like there's no way we can do daycare and have her work.
Jason:When I was working at True Green at some point, i was basically working to pay for daycare. I had a little bit of left at the end of the week but I was like I was paying for daycare.
Jesper:Stupid.
Jason:Right, This fucking rich ass country can't provide. don't even get me started.
Jesper:All right. Speaking of lift. Speaking of Karen.
Jason:Potential, potential admin crisis admist AMIDST. What does that mean? like a possible crisis, i don't know. Wait, what are you at The first article? you dummy.
Jesper:Why do you jump right in the top? We haven't even talked. Okay, that's fine. What did we miss? That's fine, go ahead.
Jason:It's the first article.
Jesper:I know, I know Potential and missed crisis.
Jason:So does that mean like possible.
Jesper:It's, there's a potential, there is Possibility During the crisis. There is a lift potential.
Jason:Okay, let's evaluate. It says declined 12.68 year today due to mediocre financial performance. Blah, blah, blah.
Jesper:Yeah, this country is rich because they don't pay for daycare in Alpshire.
Jason:Yeah, we gotta get those bombs lined up. I shouldn't have said that.
Jesper:They gotta shut us down now.
Jason:Yeah, youtube's gonna YouTube's just gonna shadow ban us? No, they're liberal, they won't. Yes, we put this article in here. I kind of looked at it. Basically, lifts being shitty, they're stupid. Look, it said they attempted to create a food delivery program and works with Taco Bell from 2017 to 2018. I didn't know that. It never made it to us, although today, lift drivers had the option to participate in food or pharmacy delivery, not for us. Basically, lifts sucks.
Jesper:And, but they still have the potential for growth if they do it right. That's the big thing here, and the other side of that is also that Uber has no interest in lift failing. Let's put that out there. Uber don't want lift to fail, because if lift fails they're gonna get all kinds of trouble from the federal government, because now they're gonna be the only one.
Jason:See, does that happen retroactively? I see, when they're trying to make a business, i've seen where the government has stepped in saying no, you can't because you're gonna be a monopoly. But would it be retroactive if lift went out of business, or do you think? only if they tried to buy them.
Jesper:Well, they're gonna be the only. I mean, it's not like they can say no now, you can't do anything. Well, of course, because But now the eyes are gonna be all on Uber not on Uber and lift.
Jason:Yeah, so it'll be. You know All the heats on them, yeah, yeah.
Jesper:And again Uber. It's good for Uber that there is a lift.
Jason:Well, the competition is good, Absolutely. It drives prices up or down, depending on how things go, but I think it's good, and if there was no lift, you wouldn't be working Right, no, no that is true.
Jesper:So the conclusion says here despite having a tolling past few quarters, lift has the ability to take advantage of the prosperous growth of the rideshare industry and capitalize on the new customers and services which will be associated with it. Shrinking market share and reduced revenue are both major problems the old administration faced, but with onboarding of new CEO, david Rischer, lift aims to reset business back to post pandemic levels of success and regain of consumer base that has shifted to Uber.
Jason:If you had the keys to lift, what would you do to make it better? Like if you would say think of it as a business owner, take your head out of the driving thing, don't even think about the drivers. Well, yeah, clearly they don't.
Jesper:But I think that's what I would do, What I would start thinking about the drivers. I think the problem is it's too difficult right now. This whole thing about the algorithm and all that stuff. it's too bullshitty, it's too difficult. This is the number one complaint everybody needs.
Jason:You mean it's too difficult to understand?
Jesper:Yeah, And it go back to the symbol model. it all started with you pay the ride.
Jason:The 80, 20.
Jesper:Whatever it is the drivers. The drivers get paid a mile per mile and minute mile and time right And the passengers pay for mile and time And you pay afterwards.
Jason:In the story the model was simple, it worked and it And add the surge there for supply and demand, I'm sure of course that's fine. Wouldn't that be a game changer if they did that?
Jesper:Go back to the model that was easy to look at, easy to. I mean no, there's no more, it's just simple math. At that point, right, there's no. Oh, you know all this upfront pricing bullshit, that's when everything changed. And now there's all these complaints and why am I paying for this and why am I paying for that and all that stuff? And the drivers don't really wanna drive or lift because well, the passenger, he's paid like 80 bucks and I get paid two feminists 75.
Jesper:I mean whatever it is right, but I think that's what I would do. I would just, I would go back to the simple story. It's like what a lot of people are saying when you kind of take over a business or whatever. It's like just.
Jason:Go back to your roots.
Jesper:Go back to your roots, figure out what you're really good at and cut all the other bullshit away. And then go back to that and stop making money again and then you re-evaluate. That's what I think one of you would do.
Jason:Yeah, I like that idea. You think, I think it would be.
Jesper:You need the trust.
Jason:I think it would be easier for Lyft to do that, because they don't have so many irons in the fire like Uber does with deliveries and all this Uber pet and all this stuff. They can go back just to the basics and yeah.
Jesper:And Lyft isn't in other countries either. Right, And Uber is not in other countries? No, Lyft is not in other countries, Uber is yeah, correct. Yeah, so I mean it's much easier for Lyft to just have one system. one fit all.
Jason:Yeah, you know what's interesting. I often wonder like who's taking those long rides? You know what I mean? Like no one's taking them And I wonder if they're hurting on that. Like you know, like cause I see people post them like I ain't taking this shit. I ain't taking this shit. I'm like is somebody actually taking them or is it the dump?
Jesper:Yeah, i'm sure they are. You think so?
Jason:Well, yeah, just like somebody's taking the 225 door dash, i mean true, they need the money And in the moment they don't care that they're losing money, they just need the 150 bucks or whatever they're gonna earn on that ride.
Jesper:Well, or as you said, my daily total. I need to make $150 today, otherwise I will be behind tomorrow. It doesn't matter if I work six hours or 15 hours today I have to make $150.
Jason:Yeah, this, yeah, all right, moving on, lyft sucks, so I thought this was interesting. This is I've never seen anything like this Like it looks like a Dashlink package pickup, so it looks like an Amazon flex route.
Jesper:Yep.
Jason:I would so fucking do that. That is so much money, Like for 68 miles. normally if I have a good, even if I go to Walker in that area, I still put 50 miles on. You know what I mean 68 miles for 225 guaranteed. So what is Dashlink? I don't know. I don't know where this is. I'm trying to look free. poor Huntington, There's some water there. New Rochelle Is that maybe East Coast?
Jesper:Wonder if it's delivery service of Dashlink or something like that.
Jason:Well, it looks like it has 28 Petco orders. Look at it, it's all from Petco, right When two orders from the Dashlink place. So I don't know. I would totally.
Jesper:I would do it too, absolutely Yeah.
Jason:I saw that up there. I'm like please come to Grand Rapids, i will do that all day long. I would do that and I'd be done.
Jesper:Right.
Jason:Now that's going to take probably three hours. I mean, it looks relatively tight.
Jesper:Yeah, but they're still fine Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
Jason:Three, four hours, fuck yeah, i would take that all day. I've never made 225 in a row. I think the most I've ever made was like 175, maybe for like a three hour row.
Jesper:So the interesting part, you go to two different places to pick up your packages.
Jason:Yeah, that is strange. So you the Petco and then whatever that other Dashlink package pickup, whatever that or no looks like.
Jesper:Yeah, Deliverer.
Jason:Oh, Deliverer or so.
Jesper:And then you go to Petco to pick up the other 28 hours and then you deliver all the other ones. You can see the first one is fairly far from the other one.
Jason:Yeah, So most of those miles are probably from that. Oh yeah, If you look at the other houses, they're sitting on top of each other.
Jesper:Yeah, I get that.
Jason:I would cream in my pants if that. Oh wait, you know what? I just found out that one of my bus driver friends listens to the show.
Jesper:As soon as I said that oh, you know who you are.
Jason:I'm sorry. I said that because I know you're going to hear that next week. She's like she sent a random text. She was like are you really going to have a pony at your picnic?
Jesper:I was like wait a minute. She goes.
Jason:Oh yeah, i listen. I was like, no, it's been a bit we've done for the last couple of years.
Jesper:I'm like oh, no worlds are colliding.
Jason:I got to be careful.
Jesper:I know, as in, julia is listening to my show.
Jason:Yeah, I just stole your story too, by the way. That's OK, you can steal my story, all right. All right, moving on, more DoorDash. This is pretty amazing. So there's email. This year, doordash is celebrating our 10-year anniversary. As part of the milestone, we want to express our gratitude to the Dashers who have been on the road with us, delivering countless meals and smiles for nearly a decade. Your dedication and excellence have helped us grow and empower your local community, all while strengthening your DoorDash community. We wouldn't be here without you. Look for a $10,000 reward to be depositing your account today from us as a special thank you, and I'm like no way You think it's real.
Jason:Yeah, but look, look at the next picture.
Jesper:Yeah, but you can fake that too.
Jason:That looks so f I mean, Dude, that looks so real. Oh yeah, I mean it looks real. I just think it is, I don't know No.
Jesper:I mean, it could be.
Jason:I saw a lot of pictures like this. It wasn't just this. Now, i don't know why this one got removed from Reddit You never know why people get their panties in a bunch or whatever But I mean it doesn't surprise me. But you had to have like 10,000 deliveries too. Oh, sure. Yeah, you couldn't be just like me, where I do 25 deliveries a month and then been here for 10 years. You had to have 10,000 deliveries too.
Jesper:I mean it's cool if it's actually true.
Jason:Yeah, I have to believe it is. I wish they'd do a news story on it somewhere. I mean, you figure We'll have to look at that.
Jesper:Maybe there is a news story.
Jason:Yeah, there might. We don't research this other than with the links that we see.
Jesper:So There's nobody, Nobody's chatting tonight. Come on guys. Oh, they never do Just.
Jason:John talking about bombs. I don't know why I do that. You're up next.
Jesper:So this next one is actually kind of interesting. This is talking about the Amazon key.
Jason:Do you have this at your house?
Jesper:I know I do not, i do I do. Is it active in the market?
Jason:Not for Grubhub.
Jesper:Oh, no But.
Jason:I have regular Amazon. Key is they have access to your garage and put your deliveries in the garage.
Jesper:Ok, my garage isn't wireless, though.
Jason:You can for $30,. you can make it wireless. No, I know OK.
Jesper:I just got to put a device on it. So, speaking of the devices, i got to tell you this because I'm super proud of this is the coolest thing. So earlier this year I told Max on my son. My son is going off to college next year and he's going to be an electrical engineer.
Jesper:Electrical engineer. Thank you, mechanical engineer, sorry, ok. So I said, max, make me something so I can put my poor pump on my Google Home. Ok, ok, the other day, what do I see on the Google Home? come up, poor pump. How did he?
Jesper:do it Show us. He programmed one of his devices, one of his many boards. Now so far it's not actually connected to the pump, but he had it connected so that you clicked on the poor pump on the Google Home and it would turn a little lamp on and off. So conceptually it's working. Now we just have to put it up to turn the pump on and off. That's easy enough. But he got a program inside and it worked to me on Google Home and everything And I, like jeez, it shows up poor pump. What the hell.
Jason:Like it just showed up randomly. You're like what is this?
Jesper:It said come on my phone. New device has been added. It said poor pump.
Jason:Man, that's amazing.
Jesper:I was like, OK, dude, I said that was kind of for fun, but this is cool.
Jason:Yeah, can you imagine, when he's done with college, what he could do for you?
Jesper:I know. So yeah, he's got to make a device so I can turn my poor pump on from Google Home. Anyways, long story, short Short story long. Short story, there you go. So Amazon Key is coming to Grubhub, basically testing out a new program to help make your deliveries even easier. As a Grubhub delivery partner in New York Manhattan, you can be among the first to use Amazon Key. With Amazon Key, you can use your app to seamlessly access building lobbies and security gates. In. Amazon Key enable buildings around your city.
Jason:Oh, so it's not garage doors, it's more.
Jesper:It's enable cities, But in Manhattan and New York I can't help. It's got to be a ton of those buildings that way.
Jason:Like every building I know, this has got a code behind it, I'm sure I know.
Jesper:So how cool is that that now they can just walk in.
Jason:Yeah, that's amazing.
Jesper:But it's going to save them a ton of time.
Jason:But here's the thing Is Grubhub even like we talked about it on the B side with Eric Grubhub's? just it's horseshit. Now I don't know if it's more popular in New York or wherever it said it was, I'm sure it is.
Jesper:They had it. I mean one of the stories we talked about a couple of weeks ago. They had a special Grubhub place. You pick up all your food. Remember that They had that one. That.
Jason:Yeah.
Jesper:So I mean, I'm sure it's more popular in the big cities. So I think it's kind of cool.
Jason:Yeah, I think it's great. I mean, would it be practical, practical, practical, Practical, Practical to do it for us Like if I was getting food delivery putting in my garage because there's no really security here? I mean, I guess people's food does get stolen on occasion.
Jesper:But if you live in an apartment, no, it's not needed here.
Jason:No, it's not really needed. I like putting it. I like when they put it in the garage, though, because, like, if we're gone for a couple of days, it's in the garage, it's not sitting up The package is yes, yes, but this is talking about fries, mcdonald's.
Jason:Yeah, i know, i know, i know I'm just saying would it work to put it in the garage in general, right Like, would you sign up for that? If you got DoorDash twice a week, would you sign up for it to get it put in your garage or just on your front porch? Just my front porch? Yeah, see me too, and you're sitting out there for more than 10 seconds, because the second that guy drives away, i'm into that bag.
Jesper:Speaking of stuff like that, i saw that a new principal you and I talked about that a while back this whole concept of having, instead of having your packages stolen or whatever it is, you have this box that can be locked and unlocked and stuff.
Jesper:So I saw a new principal there. They're working on getting put into brand new houses. There's actually a box slot. Just look, you have a mailbox in your door. You'll have a box slot next to your door, so it's a much bigger slot, obviously that they just open And then the package goes right inside right away. So smart, i know right. And then, of course, it'll be Amazon Key Enable or whatever it is, so that the driver comes up to you. You don't have to do a code or anything. But you can't just open it. You have to do something.
Jason:Oh, so it's not free for all, it's still secure.
Jesper:Yeah, because otherwise you can get in with it. Yeah, i was just saying someone would crawl in it to get in your house, so yeah, but I mean this is the future. But I think it's cool too that they're changing the way the house is being built also to accommodate that, accommodate all the technology, right Yeah.
Jason:I'm sure they don't have that in those awesome Allen Edwin Hones behind us. They probably do not Piece of shit.
Jesper:I was just saying so you're not happy about that coming up with it.
Jason:You can actually go by and see some wavy siding already in there, like because I drive by it all the time, because it's kind of a shortcut for me to get out to Ivanrest And it ain't great, oh my gosh. All right, moving on, we're going to do a quick ad here, for this is where you can fast forward. Octopus tablet. Yep, octopus tablet is a tablet. I have not turned it on in, like since I won the $1,000.
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Jason:It would help support the show. All right, here we are at the TikTok about tipping It's $5 and up Correct, did you burp?
Jesper:No, i was going to, but then you.
Jason:Okay, do you want me to play? Do you want to talk about it Play?
Jesper:the video.
Jason:Hi Hello. Come here, max, thanks Next.
Jesper:There you go. Thank you, you're welcome. I just want to say it's a nice house for a $5 tip.
Jason:You're welcome. Fuck you, whoopsies, i mean it's a $20 pizza.
Jesper:What is he expecting?
Jason:So yeah, so he made, he made. Let's just say, if it was DoorDash I don't know if it was or not He made, uh, so $750 on that, i don't know. It doesn't say about the mileage No, it doesn't say he drove a long ways.
Jesper:It doesn't say it was, but that's on him.
Jason:No, exactly That's what I'm saying. Like, to me it's $750 for like a three-mile trip. I don't care if you have a million-dollar house Like.
Jesper:It doesn't matter, the house doesn't matter.
Jason:No, now the pie was probably $20. She paid way more than $20. Absolutely, and maybe that's why he's like $5 isn't enough. But it doesn't really affect him, he's not paying all those fees. He got offered $2, or probably got offered $7.50, and he took it.
Jesper:She gave him a $5 tip on a $20 pie.
Jason:Yeah, which is very fair, That's 25%. Yeah.
Jesper:I mean, what's he expecting? Yeah?
Jason:I don't know.
Jesper:I mean, she tip $20 just because she has a nice house.
Jason:Yeah, I mean that's bullshit. I wrote 50% as a And his 50% tip of good tip. Why did I think it was?
Jesper:I don't know why you wrote 50%.
Jason:I think I saw that somewhere in a post and I'm like, as you were saying, the 5 on 20, i'm like, wait, that's 25%.
Jesper:So I didn't want to put that out there, you know.
Jason:Throw me right under the bus Like that. I read that somewhere and just Ron Burgundy it and wrote it.
Jesper:But again, but still. He is obviously expecting way too much of what he's doing.
Jason:Yeah, is this because of the house? Like bro give? No, you know, i did read somewhere. Again, take it with a grain of salt. You did get deactivated.
Jesper:No, of course.
Jason:If it goes viral, you're fucked.
Jesper:Good Like what did you tell him I'm sorry? I mean, you shouldn't be doing this in the first place.
Jason:Honestly, like it's one pizza, it's $20. Like I would never, even if the house like the only time I would and I would bitch to you guys in the telegram chat I'm like oh my God, this was like a $400 order and they tip me five bucks. Like look at this fucking house. But I would never say that to a customer.
Jesper:But it would also be because you had to actually, you know, multiple trips from your car or whatever it is. Yeah, you know, i mean yes, yeah, It didn't take him any longer to drop one pizza off, right.
Jason:Yeah, and the house was nice, but it wasn't like. No, i saw the house across, i mean there was a very nice house, but I mean it wasn't like millionaires over there. No, but fucking idiot.
Jesper:Costum, i would have the ring radio in a minute. Yep, exactly, and it's just. But that's the thing, right? It's like just fucking, don't be idiots.
Jason:I think he would have been fine if he didn't say the fuck you. I think. I don't think it would have gone viral, but I think she was like oh really, you just told me to fuck off.
Jesper:Yeah, no, it's going viral. Well, now I'm complaining to lift about it to adore.
Jason:That's about it, whatever it is. Yeah, You got lift on the mind. Huh, Is that your little mistress?
Jesper:I got my stickers today. I'm all excited.
Jason:Did you ask for them? Yeah?
Jesper:I had to submit and get two new stickers. Oh my gosh.
Jason:But anyways, guys.
Jesper:I can't find my amp.
Jason:You could still buy them.
Jesper:I think I'm not paying 50, 60 bucks for an amp.
Jason:Yeah, so don't complain about your tip if you're going to take it just because someone has a rich house Like you didn't freaking, make the pie yourself, you just fucking drove it Right. And if it was too many miles, that's on you, bro.
Jesper:That's on you. It just grew up. Okay, do something else.
Jason:So this next one is interesting. We'll play it and then we'll talk about it. And I can't click on that one. Jason, That's not going to work. Okay, I should preface it It's an Uber driver, passengers getting in the car. Then we'll go again.
Jesper:Step front. Okay, that's it. You okay with sitting up?
Jason:front. Yeah, i'm good, okay, yeah, okay.
Jesper:So my name is Gina.
Jason:How you doing. I'm divine, Oh okay, i'm sorry, i have Tourette And my tics are a little bad today. Your name is Sean Sean Bond. How's your day going today, sean? Fine, well, that's great. I do know how to drive. Good, okay, i promise I do. Just freaking the fuck out Just, some days my tics are worse than others. You know, i got it. I got to get you again. Oh, my gosh. Okay, i'm so glad I got to get you again.
Jason:Some people don't really know how to react to my Tourette. Oh, what's happening here? So I just really appreciate you just being so nice, nice, nice, nice, bye. He's like get me my tics again. Okay, that's difficult. I do watch that a little bit And I think her name was Jenna. Yeah, jenna, jenna, did you hear this? Yeah, i'm not saying it is a bit, but it seems bitty, or not. Do you think it's real?
Jesper:I think it's real You do Okay, but I've also seen people with Tourette's. Oh yeah, i mean this is what they do. Yeah, it's a little And I think it's hard to fake Tourette's.
Jason:Yeah, it is.
Jesper:And I'm surprised she. But it could be a bit, i guess, i don't know.
Jason:No, no, no, I'm not saying it is, but I always get screwed on these. I think they're real and I'm like comes to find out it's fake. But I did actually reach out to her. I want to get her on the show Like I want it. Not for her to do that, but I want to hear about her stories.
Jesper:I bet you have tons of stories.
Jason:Tons of stories. I'm so glad she created a TikTok to upload them. But it's interesting she didn't swear. There's a couple of TikTokers I followed that have Tourette's and it's bad.
Jesper:But they can't help it. That's the problem.
Jason:Well, I do some swear and some don't. It's like if you already swear in your regular life, that just comes out.
Jesper:I don't know. I don't know if Tourette's enough.
Jason:I don't know enough either.
Jesper:But yeah, it's, interesting.
Jason:Yeah, but.
Jesper:I definitely. To me it came off as being real I originally think that, but then I worry.
Jason:I'm getting the wool pole over my eyes This and saying, like, what is that saying from You? ever hear that with the wool pole over your eyes?
Jesper:No, you've never heard of that, saying Probably do, but I don't remember. Yeah, i just like I wonder where that You ever want.
Jason:We should do a podcast on where things come from, like the origin of like weird sayings.
Jesper:Oh, I'm sure there's been around.
Jason:There's probably six, 17 podcasts. Oh, completely sidetracked. Do you know that Instagram came out with a coming out with a new app tomorrow, like Twitter, it's called Threads. You think we're going to get some traction on the old show Maybe.
Jesper:Maybe we need to start something else on Threads podcast.
Jason:Yeah, Let's just start dumping content over there. That was great. So, jenna, i appreciate you. Good job working and scaring the shit out of people.
Jesper:Definitely. But also I mean good job, not letting it if it's real good job not letting it discourage you from that work.
Jason:Yeah, would you. if you had that, wouldn't you say that every time someone got in the car?
Jesper:Absolutely, and put it on my app, put it on the profile.
Jason:Just because, man, i mean we're not talking about tonight because I feel like we bring all the terrible stories but there was an Uber driver that got shot in Texas, maybe Because the woman thought now they were close to the Mexico border. She took a ride. It was near Warsaw, which is like right at the line, and she saw signs for like Mexico City or whatever, and she shot him, shot and killed him. You know what I mean. If I had Tourette's and I yelled like that I would like every time hey, i have Tourette's, sometimes I have some ticks I just want to let you know. Right, It'd be annoying to say that I mean you took 40 rides. Can you imagine saying that 40 times a weekend Like, but I, yeah, you still have to.
Jesper:Oh, yeah, i don't know, would I drive at night then?
Jason:I don't know, that's interesting, it's just, it's not that the Tourette's or the ticks are going to cause issues, like you're not going to offend anybody, but they might get freaked out.
Jesper:Oh, yeah, no, absolutely.
Jason:Like and maybe people, i mean these fucking millennials and these young kids that you say oh, i have Tourette's. they probably don't even know what the fuck that is. No.
Jesper:You know what I mean.
Jason:And they think it's bullshit and they feel I don't know, i can just. I always look at the worst side of things, like I would want everyone to know, like I may scream the F word occasionally, but it's not because you have Tourette's. Thank you, damn.
Jesper:You got my joke before, damn you.
Jason:Yeah, so anyways, yep, all right, you're up.
Jesper:I am up. This is another gig service called Taskmo that we are talking about, and Taskmo is I'm going to go to the bottom of your quick first, because now everybody knows what Taskmo is. It is India's largest gig discovery platform. It's a group of large corporate brands and startups across the industries. By providing gig workers to perform various tasks, it's mission to digitize gig jobs for the next half a billion internet users And the interesting part here is that they have seen a humongous growth.
Jesper:Okay, so, basically, they have seen 220% year-over-year revenue growth last couple years, and this is e-commerce and fintech and stuff. Basically, it's all kinds of gig economy, of course, but a lot of them is young jobs. Basically, they see a 55% yearly growth in the gig and gig work. They see a 20.5% youth participation in Greece.
Jesper:Okay, so, again, india's largest platform, and again we talked about it many times before Gig is here to stay. Yeah, gig work is here to stay And we're seeing here now that in India there are, i mean, lots and lots and lots of new young people are using this new way of working as being the way to work, if you will, right, yeah, as I was reading this article, i was thinking there was one more reason that I think they were not looking at. But basically they're seeing, they're saying young people are signing up for this because they like having the full flexibility and it's not the same thing you do all the time, every day, and stuff like that. But I was thinking about another thing too, is there's no pressure of having to getting the job.
Jason:You mean like interviewing and stuff.
Jesper:Right, you don't have to do that. There's none of that right. You don't have to go out and apply for the jobs and interviews that go through a long process and everything like that. No, you just got to prove that you do the work.
Jason:Yeah, but they're not great jobs. You know what I mean? It's a J-O-B, it's like factory work, absolutely Yeah, it's not a career, but it's a lot less pressure, a lot less pressure.
Jesper:Yeah for sure. So it's quote unquote easy to just go out and take a gig job, as opposed to having to go to school and all that stuff and now having to first even prove yourself for somebody to even hire you and all that bullshit, right? So that was just interesting, how I think. But basically what it was just saying is Here's what Okay, All right, All right, Was that enough talk? Okay, Congratulations. This is just speaking to the fact that gig economy jobs are here to stay. Last one year gig market witness amounting gig job. I think this article was definitely translated from a different language or whatever, Because it's not the best English, but basically they just seen a very, very large growth in task mode and obviously it's not showing any signs of slowing down. So that's probably pretty cool.
Jason:Yeah, that's cool. I'm pretty sure that we've talked about this before.
Jesper:Well, we may have talked about task mode in other relations, but not in this episode 150 and I went to the drive and put task mode.
Jason:It was actually your story too, So you can't blame youth participation in gig economy increase eightfold. task mode report the economic times.
Jesper:Well, it must have been different article then. This was just one day ago.
Jason:I know, i know, but it was just I wasn't going to interrupt you when you were. It's totally fine. I'm sure I've repeated stories, but I'm like this sounds really familiar. Fine, so it was basically like 40 episodes ago. I'm not expecting you to remember it.
Jesper:Oh, it was 40. I thought you said 150.
Jason:No 115.
Jesper:Oh, ok, yeah.
Jason:So this was back, and I don't even know the date of it. What would, i wonder, when 115 would have been?
Jesper:Yeah, it would have lasted year, let me see.
Jason:Whatever I want to look, i don't know how to find the date. I'm stupid.
Jesper:I repeated a story.
Jason:I'm sorry guys, It's totally fine, i'm sure I've done it and you've missed it and no one calls us out on it. Ok, so next up I want to talk a little about safety, which we've always talked about. This is a little bit of a media article, so I'm actually going to pull it over in front so I can read it. It was interesting to hear some of the different apps which we've talked about safety a million times, so it goes different apps of what they can do.
Jason:Instacart recently updated their app The ability to connect directly to a team 24-7 safety agents. Blah, blah, blah. When the feature is used, a safety agent immediately calls the shopper to see if an emergency assist is needed. If the shopper does not answer the call, the safety agents escalate the instant emergency service, providing the shopper's name, phone number, language and geolocation. So that's cool, because then you don't have to tell them where you are. They're like hey, so that was good. Grubhub same kind of thing. They have a swipe for 911. Again, same thing. If they don't hear anything, they call 911 themselves. And then there's an app called SHE, s-h-e-q-s-y. It's a basically an app that has duress alerts in it. So when LoanWorker activates a duress alert from the app, their alert immediately is sent to a live agent who attempts to contact the LoanWorker, confirm the emergency and determine the type of assist required. In the instance of a true emergency live agent, they'll immediately contact 911 and provide relevant data and their location.
Jason:Oh nice, so that's a specific app. I often wonder, when you call 911 on your phone, i don't think they get your location right away, i don't think they have access to that right away.
Jesper:Well, they start triangulating.
Jason:They start doing it. But how great would it be if you had an app instead of you hit that instead of dial 911? I don't know, i'd probably still dial 911. But if you're overwhelmed and aren't able to speak, i don't know. I just think they've got to come up with something technology-wise. The second you dial 911, it pings your phone. It should ping your phone immediately, but see the I don't know, it may already. I just thought it took some time to figure out where you were.
Jesper:Probably does, But I see some problems with that, though. I mean, a lot of people are going to be like no, like big brother. Yeah, the whole thing about.
Jason:Well, let's be honest, they all have access to our shit right now.
Jesper:Oh yeah.
Jason:Someone could find exactly where I am. They probably can see me in my house through my walls, I'm sure of it. At any moment they can access my phone.
Jesper:They can see you through your clothing and everything.
Jason:Yeah, they can see. Yes, they can see my two-enther You know. Oh, sorry, sorry, friend of Buzz Marnifren, sorry about that.
Jesper:You know too much now. Yeah, you know way too much.
Jason:You know way too much, so I don't know. I like all the safety stuff. I very rarely feel unsafe when I'm working, but it's still nice to have something available if need be.
Jesper:It definitely is nice, and I think it's nice that there is stuff available for the drivers. It's not all for the riders.
Jason:Yes, because I mean there's no app that could defend that guy that got shot in the back of the head. I mean she fucking shot him in the back of the head, which she should be charged.
Jesper:Oh yeah.
Jason:It's got to be at least, At least manslaughter. I mean that is not the right escalation. If you feel like you call 911, you use the safety protocols in the app, you don't pull out your pistol, which was carried legally, and shoot the guy in the back of the head.
Jesper:But she shouldn't have been able to have that gun in the first place. Why? Because she was, I don't know. I shouldn't say anything.
Jason:No.
Jesper:She was scared right.
Jason:Right, she obviously was scared, but was her life threatened? No, he was just driving. Exactly Yeah, and I think there was a little bit of a language barrier too, so that probably didn't help in the escalation of her being worried. Well, yeah, but just say hey, can you let me off here please.
Jesper:Right.
Jason:And then if it gets weird, OK, then we have some sort of a discussion, But of course I didn't have a freaking dash cam, so no one knows it. He said, she said and he's dead.
Jesper:Well, unless you took the dash cam.
Jason:Well, no, no one's saying that Why you got to escalate to that Like. Why are you saying that? I mean I wouldn't put a pastor, but like she's just an unhinged person that shouldn't have a pistol?
Jesper:I know That's what I'm just saying. She shouldn't have had a pistol.
Jason:Right. Clearly she has not been trained appropriately.
Jesper:No.
Jason:All right, real quick Middleton time.
Jesper:I have a question Yes, sir. Is it her fault, or is it the pistol's fault?
Jason:It is her fault, it's not the pistol's fault. Ok, but I'm bummed.
Jesper:OK.
Jason:Why is that? It was door dad.
Jesper:Did you get something accidentally? I did. You got butt happy, All right.
Jason:Middleton technology, middleton technologies, maximo, flex-alert and Drive Utility Helper All three apps from Gary Middleton. The link is in the description. Please sign up for a subscription. We would greatly appreciate it. Flex-alert lets you know if there's routes that drop, but they did not grab them for you. Maximo, like yes, we're just signed up for Filters, shitty rides And those Lyft classics that they call it, not LyftX, lyft Classic, that's what they call Lyft Basic Classic. So check it out. They all help. Drive Utility Helper is just for DoorDash and Maximo's for the rest of them. I don't know why There's two separate ones. Don't ask me. That's a coding thing, that's a Gary thing.
Jason:They just are, so they work simultaneously with each other, though, so if you do get an Uber ride, it will shut DoorDash off, and vice versa.
Jesper:Right, i don't have a problem with that, because I don't have a doorDash.
Jason:Yeah, like Eric said, when are you going to get in double digits, Jesper, for food delivery? I'm not, you can do it.
Jesper:I'm never going to get in double digits.
Jason:You think how happy he would be?
Jesper:It's not even triple digits, it's like double digits.
Jason:Yeah, we need to get double digits. We're under double digits at this point.
Jesper:I would never do it.
Jason:Real quick. as I said to Jesper, this is yours, isn't it? Yeah, I was just going to let you know. the hourly's been around for a while, Right, And I don't know if we've actually talked about it.
Jesper:I don't either.
Jason:So let's, talk.
Jesper:So DoorDash adds hourly pay option for key economy drivers, which I think is kind of cool. So basically, when you accept a new job, you have the ability if you're not already on an hourly, you have the ability to say I want this job at this price or I want to start an hourly.
Jason:So before you continue, i see the press release is June 28. I wonder, since Grand Rapids seems to be a model where they try things out, i wonder if we've had the hourly for a lot longer than everyone else, maybe, because why would they release this on June 28? I mean, this is old news for me. We've had hourly for six months.
Jesper:You see, i didn't know. I don't do it. I don't do it twice Yeah again we're under double digits.
Jason:All right, continue.
Jesper:So basically, at the start of every Dash where Earn By Time is available, there is going to choose which learning mode they want to use And at any time they can end their Dash and start a new one in a different mode when available. So basically, when you get a start, a new Dash, you choose, and then if you choose to get Earn By Time, you're going to start your hour And then that's what it is. So, without some kind of change to the gig workers pay structure, restaurant aggregators struggle to hold on to the network of curious. According to living paycheck by paycheck, the June edition of the real-time payments tracker, a pay PYMTS and the Clearinghouse collaboration, the new hourly minimum rate offered by DoorDash will apply to the period between the driver's acceptance of an offer and the completion of the delivery, according to the press release. Do you think it's going to help? I mean, has it been helping?
Jason:Well, i've never done it by time, i've never even dabbled in it. The highest I've seen it is 18 an hour. But the problem is you're taking every order Because otherwise if you cherry pick I mean you might cherry pick a $10 order. Ooh right, this is only three miles. It may only took you like 15 minutes. You're only getting paid $17 an hour for that 15 minutes, which would be whatever. Divide like a quarter of that, whatever a quarter, so like $6. That's all you're getting paid. So the second it's from you accept the order and you drop it off. Clock stops. So when you're just sitting around just like normal, you're not getting paid. So if you cherry pick and don't take the $2.50 orders, it's basically making people take the $2.50. Because why wouldn't you? You're getting paid by the hour, so just drive. You might have to drive 13 miles for $2.50. But that whole time you're getting paid.
Jesper:Right, but you're still only going to be $18. Correct?
Jason:Correct, that's the highest I've seen it. I'm sure it's higher in different markets, but that's the highest I've seen it in my market Here, yeah, and I've never tried it.
Jesper:And why would you do it for $18?
Jason:I mean, if it was $18 on Tuesday at 11 AM I would take it, because without multi-apping I ain't making $18 an hour in DoorDash. No, if I was just doing straight DoorDash I would take that, but if I'm multi-apping I'm not going to do that. So I mean, maybe I should try just to get like a little bit of a history on it and see how it worked out. But I can't see how it works out better than doing it cherry picking or end quotes, because you almost have to not multi-app You can multi-app.
Jesper:So here's an interesting idea Do you think that all the different apps take multi-app into consideration?
Jason:Because they try to curate a program that forces you to be on their app without multi-app, Right.
Jesper:So my question is do you think their algorithm gets worse if they're noticing that you are multi-apping?
Jason:Because they can notice Yeah.
Jesper:Of course they'll see it.
Jason:They'll say, oh, he was a little late on that delivery. And they'll give you violations, Like they know when you're multi-apping.
Jesper:But are they also going to? are they going to now give you two or three shitty orders now Because you're multi and notice you're multi-apping? I mean, I wouldn't put it past them, I know That's the thing I mean.
Jason:Why not punish us for not doing what we're supposed to do?
Jesper:But I mean, let's be honest too. When I'm out, i choose to do one app Right, yeah, and I'm always doing pretty OK. Honestly, i drive at night, i drive Friday and Saturday These are the easy times to drive, yeah, but I'm always doing pretty well.
Jason:Yeah, there's really no reason for you to multi-app. No, i mean, i usually when I did Ride Share 2, i picked one or the other Right And that was incredibly slow, which again from 9 to 2.
Jesper:Yeah, exactly.
Jason:From 9 to 2, it shouldn't be incredible. I mean it can be slow, But like and again, i don't know why Lyft hasn't offered you, unless they know that somehow you can't get on Uber. But they're probably realizing oh, this guy suddenly came to Lyft, so he's either got deactivated by Uber.
Jesper:He's back.
Jason:He's back. So maybe that's why they're not giving you the bonus, because they got you by the balls, because they know They don't know really, but they know why is this guy back after four years of being off? Lyft Right, uber fucked them, so we're not going to give them promos.
Jesper:Yeah, i don't know, but.
Jason:I'm saying normally you don't need to multi-app because you've got a bonus on one, right?
Jesper:So No, it's true.
Jason:Anyways. Well, that is going to do it for us tonight. We're almost out of hour, Got a couple of stories left And we'd love to talk to you on Patreon tonight. It looks like Larry just joined a little late. That little bitch, This kid. Larry.
Jesper:Our best supporter ever. He can join us at the Patreon.
Jason:Yeah, yeah, go to patreoncom Search the GigaCon podcast. Next week we have Hold Please, hold Please.
Jason:I think his name is Dumbtoto, i think his name is. Where the fuck did I email this guy from? I think I actually ended up. Sorry, i think. Oh, yeah. So Steve from Ritual Rodeo, if you're listening to this, use my business email. You always introduce us in our regular email. Jeff Thomas Black. He is writing a book on the DoorDash experience in a different view than you might think, so we're going to have him on. He's a creator, not a YouTube creator. A book writer So that's cool, Interesting perspective. So that'll be 8 PM Eastern next week Wednesday.
Jesper:Can't wait. You're awesome.
Jason:I know we didn't talk about the picnic, but if you listen to the audio podcast, there's an ad right before it, so you shouldn't. There's no reason for you not to know about the picnic.
Jesper:The picnic is still going on.
Jason:The picnic is still going on And I'm really looking forward to it.
Jesper:Absolutely. Thank you guys.
Jason:Anything else, Nope, that's it All right And remember, don't put up with anyone's bullshit.
Jesper:And we'll see you on the road. Ah, fucking fucking. Good night.
Jason:See you on Patreon. This podcast is produced and edited by Hey Guys Media Group. Want to start a podcast? Check out heyguysmediagroupcom. Not functional language. you.
