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Money Talks: Uber CEO Gets Real About When You Should Tip | Ep 259

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The tightrope between platform profits and driver welfare grows more precarious as Uber's CEO suggests tipping should be based on service quality, not necessity.

• Only 20% of Uber riders tip compared to an estimated 90% for food delivery
• Seattle implements groundbreaking 14-day notice requirement before driver deactivation, despite DoorDash's $3 billion quarterly revenue
• Milwaukee driver strike fails when protesters block other drivers from working, resulting in police intervention
• Waymo expands to offer driverless rides to teens 14-17, potentially offering parents peace of mind about driver safety
• Instacart introduces "priority delivery" in as fast as 30 minutes and "no rush delivery" for cost-conscious consumers
• Sleepwalking woman discovers she ordered just a honey mustard sauce from DoorDash at 1 AM
• Fight between Uber driver and Atlanta sports reporter escalates to physical violence after disagreement about air conditioning
• Baltimore driver claims to have driven for rideshare platforms in all 50 states over three years

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Speaker 2:

I'm sure my mic's fucked up. Welcome to the Gig Economy Podcast, episode 259. We're going to talk about the Uber CEO talks tipping that's always our favorite thing, and some drivers in Milwaukee did a strike and it didn't go as well as they would hoped. And it didn't go as well as they would hoped. And we're live on TikTok. We're doing it a different way because TikTok hates us and if we don't do it this way, they don't push it out. So until we get 1,000 followers yes, josh, I'm drinking we have to do it this way.

Speaker 2:

Send us flowers. Send us flowers. Send us super chats. Larry. I was a dick to you today and I'm drinking. We have flowers. Send us flowers. Send us flowers. Send us super chats. Larry, I was a dick to you today and I'm sorry. How is your day going?

Speaker 3:

It's good. It's been busy man. We were pulling cable over and one of our buildings on campus that has no AC. So, yeah, it was a nice, nice warm, 95 degrees in there.

Speaker 2:

How do you look so like, not like disheveled, I don't know, because I.

Speaker 3:

I had zero time. We get off work uh at uh you know, an hour before our, before the show starts, and so had to stop by give my wife some flowers today because she got a new job, so celebrate, and by the time I got home it it was like quarter till you know, 15 minutes before show starts.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we can push it back. I mean we can for the summer.

Speaker 3:

I just have three more weeks of these hours and it goes back to an hour earlier.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, That'll be okay, then, yeah it'll be fine, it'll be good.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

Yeah, so it's just a way we use to communicate back and forth. It's kind of like a texting program, but besides just writing out text, you can also do voice or video messages, which are really fun a lot easier to do when you're out driving instead of trying to text. But you can, as he said, communicate with gig workers and make friends with gig workers all over the country, all over the world. You can talk about your favorite apps, any new apps that are coming out or anything. That's just shit in the bed at the current time.

Speaker 2:

That's such a great saying shit in the bed, Because if you shit the bed like literally shit the bed. It's a bad day.

Speaker 3:

It's a bad time for all. Get on there and make some friends. Get to know us. You can get to know the people in our Telegram group and make some really good friends. Who knows, one day you could be sitting right here co-hosting the show the people in our um, in our telegram group, and make some really good friends. And, uh, who knows, one day you could be sitting right here co-hosting the show.

Speaker 2:

It only took what? Seven years, something like that, you know persistent, persistent booger.

Speaker 2:

Uh, obviously, everything we talk about in the platform you're watching, there'll be some links in there that you can uh download the telegram chat. Uh, follow us on tiktok, youtube, whatever you're. Whatever socials, all the socials, um. And then, yeah, stories from the road. Um, I have done so much gig work in the last week. I my, I, I could talk for the whole show about shit if I wrote it all down like, yeah, I mean, I did like 500 in walmart this week, oh, just in walmart. So, wow, that's a good week. Yeah, it was a good week. So, um, I'm gonna check with you. I didn't see anything written down. Do you have any work from the road?

Speaker 3:

probably not which is totally fine. You're picking up my slack um for now but uh, another three weeks and and that'll change.

Speaker 2:

But uh, yeah, I did a little gig work, but no stories, nothing, uh nothing crazy, okay, daytime driving, so a lot of times you don't have too much going on then yeah, uh, the quick thing I wanted to talk about is I had got back from nashville and some of the people already know this and I got a uh curry order to traverse city. Um, and I ended up negotiating with curry a little bit, so I wasn't taking it, wasn't taking it. They sent me a text and they asked hey, do you want to or will you take it for this much? And I said $175, and I think they were offering like $150. Now, mind you, I don't know the mileage to Traverse City, but it's two hours and ten minutes, so it's a hike. Know the mileage to Traverse City, but it's two hours and 10 minutes, so it's it's a hike.

Speaker 2:

So I ended up doing it for uh, I kept, I was firm on the one 75, and then they're like okay, and I was like shit, I should have gone higher, I should have done like 200. You know what I mean, but you know that's part of negotiating, right? You, uh, you throw it out there and I think it's really cool that Curry will do that. I had another one later that week that I ended up not winning the bid but I ended up taking it for the lower amount. But that's another thing. Wow, gabe, bombastic. Thank you for becoming a new member. Really appreciate that, or is that Gabriel Spalding? I?

Speaker 3:

think that is Gabe. You think that's Gabe? Yeah, he said he put in our telegram group. He said he was watching us on YouTube, but he said he couldn't chat Really, that's what he said.

Speaker 2:

Nah, you don't have to be a member to chat. Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, interesting.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, gabe. What was? Yeah, yeah, I don't know, that's weird, but, yeah, interesting. Um, thanks, gabe. Uh, what was my story?

Speaker 2:

Oh so, anytime I take a long distance trip, especially on gig work, and I have an electric vehicle, I make sure I look. You know where am I going to end up, am I? You know? I knew I would have like maybe 50 miles left, but I'm not getting home on that. So I look, traverse city has lots of chargers. I get up there. It's really busy. It's like summertime, obviously, in traverse city. Uh, for, for those you don't know, it's in northern michigan, beautiful, on a beautiful lake. I could not tell you what lake it is, but it's blue, it's, it's gorgeous. I love everything about traverse city, but apparently I forgot that during, uh, fourth of july week is cherry festival, which is like like the biggest thing. So all the chargers were blocked by like amusement park rides and it was all like, and I'm like that that I understand it's down by the water and and that's where you want to put everything, but doesn't that seem like a weird?

Speaker 3:

yeah, I mean you. You know you don't want to be blocking chargers. Yeah, I know, I just don't understand.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I get it, it's right down by the water, but like I don't know, it would be weird if they made a path because, like literally, it's covered with, like fair stuff Wow, so goodness get in there. Can't figure it out. I ended up going about 10 miles south to random freaking blaine's farm and like that's hillbillies, like that. In no offense, I mean I shop there too, so I guess I'm a hillbilly, but I mean that's like, yeah, you know, you buy your chickens that. It's like what? What's another big uh tractor?

Speaker 2:

supply yeah that's what it is, and it's got a badass charger that did a fantastic job so yeah I did that and drove home and then unfortunately didn't grab my work clothes drove past the ball park to my home, grabbed my work clothes, literally turned around, sat in traffic for 30 minutes and then went to work, uh, at the ballpark. So it was quite the adventure for me no, not faith.

Speaker 3:

And oh and uh, yeah, you need to start packing your clothes.

Speaker 2:

Make sure you take them with you every time, because you never know, I might as well right yeah, you might as well I mean, and then, like later that week, I took a trip and that time I did grab my clothes and literally I didn't go back home.

Speaker 2:

I drove to the ballpark because I drove there so, yeah, uh, it's been a uh, a busy week Done. A lot of Walmart, had a very frustrating day today, but I'm glad I'm here. I was ready for the show tonight. I was ready to just freaking talk and talk and talk. I appreciate everyone showing up. Okay, gig economy in the news First up when to tip your uber driver. I realized tonight that, like I gave you all the videos and I have like, well, like usually I try to alternate, like I'll get right two videos or two pictures and then two articles. Now I got all articles tonight I noticed that tonight that's okay that's okay, uh so there was a uh.

Speaker 2:

This is from Business Insider. It was just a week ago. When to tip your Uber driver. According to CEO Dara, we should learn his last name. You know you hate him that much. It's like my medicine for Crohn's. I had a little injection problem, so I've been on the phone all day talking to them and they're like what is your medicine? And it's I can't even pronounce it, it's Ab like that, yeah, and they're like. Hey, that was pretty close.

Speaker 4:

I'm like really.

Speaker 2:

It's basically generic for Humira. Everyone, everyone knows Humira. So, anyways, um so, tipping is always a hot topic in in the gig world. And um, um, he says tipping is entirely optional, of course, but if you feel like you got a good ride, if the service quality was terrific, then you can tip through the app. You should only tip if you feel like you got your money's worth. And then some, he added uh, about 20 percent of uber riders um tip their drivers, uh, and he says that that's increasing 20%. I don't know. I know grid wise did an estimate and they said for both of them their figure was 28%. But I mean, I feel like 20% is pretty high.

Speaker 3:

See, I think it's low, but I that's skewed, I think, for me because I have so many repeat customers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah that's, that's true. Um, and then they said gridwise also said they had estimated 90 of food delivery trips include a tip. Which, boy? Not, according to my uber app yeah, yeah, that's that sounds.

Speaker 3:

That's definitely on the high side, but, as we know, I mean people. People learn to tip because they want their food before it gets cold, right, you know right you don't have to worry about that so much with with uber and lyft, because you're not pre-tipping what do you feel about dara's statement?

Speaker 2:

you should only tip if you feel you got money's worth. And then some, because I honestly, as a driver I mean in in gabe, and you can even what am I saying? Confirm this.

Speaker 3:

We all tipped, but we had some shitty rides, yeah we did, yeah, and I think we just do it because we understand what people are out there grinding and it wasn't great If it would have been super service. I think we probably would have tipped a little higher.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, as I mean it's, it's gonna have to be a really crappy uber ride for me before I don't tip. Yeah, it's just because I understand the cost of doing business, even though, like, unless it was something intentional, like you know what I mean like it was terrible, uh, to you know, whatever it could be.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, our driver had attitude oh god, attitude will 100 not get a tip from me, but when?

Speaker 2:

megan. Megan and I were in florida. The guy was doing 90 and a 70. I still tipped him, but I did yeah, I didn't report to lift. I did feel a little.

Speaker 3:

I mean that's a little fast for me, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, I'm good five or ten over, but 20 over yeah yeah, josh says I only do black tier, so I'd say seven out of ten, so you're uber black. What do you drive for that? Do you drive a yugo? Do you drive a chevette? A black one, a black chevette josh probably doesn't even know what a fucking chevette is.

Speaker 4:

He's too young actually I don't even know if he's that young um so yeah, I I don't really like that statement.

Speaker 2:

uh, you should feel you only, you should only tip if you feel you got your money's worth. I mean, I mean a money's, that's right, he drives a tesla. I mean your money's worth, like that. That can be like a thing where, uh, son, we're both older than you Shut up, uh, josh always throws me off. I'll be in the middle of a sentence. Yeah, it's freaking, stop, I just it's like me when I'm driving. I road rage. I'm just trying. I'm leaving a message. I'm like use a blinker.

Speaker 3:

Usually there's some curse words but usually there's some curse words. But yeah, yeah, we hear that on the, on our telegram group. So if you want to, you want to hear these here. Jason, just completely divert off whatever he's saying to yell at somebody, gabe, don't our telegram group yeah, gabe, for sure, like I'll, totally he'll be like this crap.

Speaker 2:

He does it too, though he'll be driving along like bitch, what are you doing? Like? It's usually curse words. So, yeah, yeah, so, anyways, tip your uber drivers. Uh, I I've, even if it's a small amount. I mean, a lot of people get fussy when they're like, at least with me, with, like, food delivery, I might get a dollar, whatever. I mean, obviously, in that moment it was good for me. I don't get fussy about it. They gave me a dollar more, you know, yeah, and that's okay. I did want to present something to you. I thought about this today, all right, all right, what would you think it? Would it? Would it be insulting I'm talking about walmart spark if I got like 20 worth of ones and I tipped my loader a dollar every time they loaded me? So so remember I'm, my one trip is going to be like 20, $25. Those guys get paid 14 bucks an hour. Yeah, you know what I mean. Would it would it be? Would it come across as condescending or, um, you know, rude or disrespectful or?

Speaker 3:

I don't think you can have a blanket statement on, because some people are going to be like us. Some people are grateful it's a dollar, hey, it's a dollar, hey, it's a dollar, more than I had. You'd have to do that, you know, whatever, and some people might be oh you know, might get a little snitty because it's just a dollar, but you can't control that. So if you want to do it, I would just do it, but yeah, you're gonna get different reactions yeah, gabe says three dollars.

Speaker 2:

Nah, that's a little steep. I might maybe two. I know it doesn't seem like a lot, but like I don't know. Like sometimes on a busy walmart day I might see that loader five times. Oh, bubba, sue said they can't accept tips. Well, I know, I know they can't, but that who the fuck cares? Yeah, like, if they say no, then I I'm not offended. Like you know, I also we're not supposed to accept tips at at the white cab. So if someone slides me a ten dollar bill I'm putting that shit in my pocket. Yeah, like, everyone's gonna do that. Like, uh, school bus, we're only supposed to accept up to 25. I cleaned up 150 bucks last the end of the school year. Like I'm gonna take it. I'm just saying, yeah, gotcha. Uh, pete says larry, the beard looks sharp. You give jason to pete can we block him?

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna block him. We missed you in in nash vegas man bubba.

Speaker 2:

Sue says don't cameras everywhere, but outside I don't know, I don't, I don't know. Uh, josh says same thing don't?

Speaker 1:

you guys are fucking prudes.

Speaker 2:

I said the same thing. You guys are fucking prudes.

Speaker 3:

You're trying to get somebody fired. Man Dollar's not going to help me, no.

Speaker 2:

I know, because there's a couple of loaders.

Speaker 3:

Ask them, ask them. I would ask them, say hey, will you get in trouble if I tip you?

Speaker 2:

They're going to say yes.

Speaker 3:

Well.

Speaker 2:

I mean Most of them. I don't know. I don't want them to get in trouble, but they're not going to get in trouble if they accept. If they do it, then that's on their own free will, right? If they chose it's a 14 an hour job, do you think they really give a shit about if they lose that job? I'll be honest with I don't know. I just feel like some of those loaders do a great job. I don't know, I don't know. Maybe I, hmm, if anyone has ideas how I can, maybe it's not cash, maybe it's a, a gift card or something, I don't know. So the $1 gift card.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, Like I know it's now, that would be insulting. It was, I wouldn't care, I'd add it to my Amazon account. No, there'd be like an Amazon one. Amazon one, Gregory says just leave the tip in the back and tell them it's there when they're loading. So I'm like not actually, Should I like hang it, like, tape it on the side of the back of my trunk? I've been serious. I was thinking about this all day today and I was like I'm going to ask the show when we get on to see what they think about it. Let's see.

Speaker 3:

Try it.

Speaker 2:

Try it this weekend, see what happens.

Speaker 3:

But and I'm not- like I don't care if they say no, we can't take it, I'm like all right, it's cool, okay, yeah, I understand, yeah, or I, I like I like gregory, like uh, tape it there and be like hey man, it's there for you if you want.

Speaker 2:

I just appreciate you loading my trunk and I I know it's a hard job and then they can make the decision to take that no one's gonna see that I always park in in spot. One in my, in my trunk is to the, the freeway. There ain't no way they're gonna see that camera there. So anyways, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Sorry for the squirrel moments, no no, 20 minutes in we're on we're on article one so that's right, because I got videos that go by really quick.

Speaker 2:

So uh gabe's. Yeah, gabe says buy them hot and ready and deliver it when you are picking it up. Uh see, that's actually more work.

Speaker 3:

Honestly, I'd rather heads have 20s in my pocket or josh, because that was josh he said take him chris pizza at christmas time they gotta be able to accept like christmas stuff.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I just seriously. Some of the loaders are great. I have a good conversation with them. Some of them are dog shit, so yeah yeah, just like, just like most places.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you got good ones, you got bad ones, everything in between also selfishly, I'm greasing the wheels a little bit, maybe, yeah, maybe, maybe something comes out quicker. I don't know if they see my name. Maybe they see oh, that's jason, he freaking tips a dollar every time we're out there. I mean, maybe I'm not all pure over here. I'm looking for a little advantage on my end too the real story comes out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah here we go. All right, moving on. Larry uh door dash slams fees from seattle, which I feel like we just maybe two months ago we talked about them changing, always changing shit out there.

Speaker 3:

They're always changing stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so um, it says out in DoorDash. Uh, are out in Seattle. Doordash is going to increase the delivery fees for customers because what it calls extreme regulations that Seattle has uh has passed. Um, the company DoorDash reported they made $3 billion in revenue in the first quarter $3 billion, but they call Seattle the school.

Speaker 2:

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up again. I did not read this article. $3 billion in revenue, that's not profit, that's revenue, but still yeah.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, they said Seattle is. They consider that the most expensive market in which to deliver in the United States, by a very wide margin. So one of the things that they've done, Seattle has done, they've implemented a new driver deactivation law.

Speaker 1:

OK.

Speaker 3:

And it was originally passed by the city council back two years ago, designed to provide more job security. You know all the gig workers. You know we know that most of the apps we work for we can be done at any time. So under this law, companies have to give workers 14 day notice of deactivation, with exception for what you know, really egregious misconduct is what they said. So they have to give them a 14 day notice of activation. They have to base the deactivation on reasonable policies and provide workers with a record, uh, behind their decision.

Speaker 3:

So, um, they say this is uh, you know, this is this is going to be harder on them, um, oh, yeah, yeah, feel so sorry for them, but this law here it's the first one of its kind in the country. It goes a lot further than a lot of the efforts around the other cities, and Seattle's really trying to take the lead in regulating the gig economy and what goes on with it. Their office, they have an office of labor standards. They said they received more than 150 worker inquiries since January about the new law and what's going on with it. So, yeah, seattle has always, always, always got something going on. As far as the gig.

Speaker 3:

We've talked about them so many times and different things.

Speaker 2:

The problem is, what people don't understand is like and maybe the Seattle lawmakers don't understand is like oh yeah, we're going to do this, but they're going to pass it on to the customer.

Speaker 3:

I mean, they're not going to eat it.

Speaker 2:

They may eat some of it, but they're going to pass it on to the customer. I mean, they're not going to eat it, they may eat some of it, but they're going to pass at least half of it onto the customer. So you're really, you're really kind of hurting your own, your own people.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Personally, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so yeah. Of course DoorDash and on its blog said that the new law has reduced driver earnings and increased delivery delays well, I mean.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you know they have full control of those apps. They can, they can do whatever they want on them and they'll be like I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, don't know, don't go to seattle. It sounds like a terrible place to go visit live and all the above. I mean I've not been there, but every time we talk about it seems terrible. It's just always a lot going on, a lot of drama, along with portland, a lot of drama, so, uh. So in the title we talked about, uh, gabe loves seattle. Of course he does. Um, we talked about the strike and um, you know it's obviously a little clickbaity in the title, so this was a one day strike. But once I read it you'd be like, ok, they didn't do it right. It talks about, like you know, the flip flop of the pay, how some, you know it used to be 80-20. Now it's like 60-40. We're getting 40. They're getting 60.

Speaker 2:

This strike was a grassroots effort. It was actually at the airport. They gathered around the airport staging lot where drivers to match with customers but turned off the rideshare apps. Um, so they say about a 30 drivers in milwaukee typically, uh are at the, you know, the rideshare lot and I think it's probably just as basic as ours is, where it's just a, a small little lot. I mean you could fit 30 cars in there. Wendy's parking lot, yeah, wendy's, oh wendy's. I love that because I I literally like if I was doing a big day, I would eat there sometimes twice a day. Um, so yeah, the wendy's parking lot, uh, and I guess they were feeding people at this lot hot dogs, bananas, fruit soda, whatever but they said most of them joined the strike, but a couple of drivers kept taking rides, so the strikers moved their setup to block the exit from the staging lot okay, there's your problem.

Speaker 2:

You can't do that. The whole point. Do that. This is what I I you know I'm pro union. I'm in a union school bus driver. There's and there's pros and cons to that. I'm not a right, I am ride or die union, but I'm just saying I'm a union school bus driver. There's and there's pros and cons to that. I'm not a right, I am ride or die union, but I'm just saying I'm not happy with everything.

Speaker 2:

But one thing we don't do you can't force somebody to do it. You you have to, like, explain the, the positives and the benefits and stuff like that. But just like strong arming somebody to do it is is is not right. So, uh. So they blocked the staging lot and you know, you know they called the cops. Somebody called the cops, so squad car showed up, told the strikers they can't block the exit obviously, uh, uh, effectively ending the strike. So I mean I I applaud them for doing that, um, uh. The one thing, though, that I took away from this article is like this guy, chris Raymond. Chris Raymond, a part-time driver who sometimes works at the airport, said Strikes like this leave money on the table, so drivers like myself can come in and make about $550 in a few hours. Does that mean like during the strike or does that?

Speaker 2:

mean like okay, there ain't no way you can make $550 in a few hours in two days. So I know you saw that and was like kind of chuckled on that. But no, I actually do applaud them for doing it. Unfortunately, like, I don't really think it's a strike, I think you're just can you strike if you're not an employee, like you're an independent contractor? Oh, it's Jimothy. Hey, sorry, I was reading the article, I didn't see it. Uh, thanks, jimothy, really appreciate you. I hope you're doing well. Um, uh, melody on tiktok. Thanks for joining. I appreciate you. Uh, what was I saying? Oh, if you're like a independent contractor, I mean you basically work for yourself. So we need to come up with another name for it instead of strike, like, yeah, we're fussy, we're pissed off we're not gonna take it.

Speaker 2:

I mean people it gets the. You know. It got me to look at it right. I saw the word strike sure oh yeah okay, I mean we're striking here um, but I, that's what they've always called it. I think it would work, but I again it a protest. Thank you, there you go geez, what are we like?

Speaker 2:

dumb, of course, bubble suit. Yeah, you're protesting uber by not doing it. Um, I think it can work, but I think 95 of the people need to do it and and it can't be just for like an hour. It's got to be, like you know, at a concert like next weekend there's a big concert here. Uh, fr, friday and Saturday, like you all just say, don't drive Right, that would that would that would be interesting, but you're just not going to get everyone to do it.

Speaker 3:

No, and the thing is, uh, you have to have some kind of a. Hey, yes, bro, oh my gosh, look, he just popped in. Wow, a, wow, a ghost. Yeah, I'm telling you a goat from the past there. Um, yeah, so the thing is to organize something like that, a strike, uh, in your in a city. You have to have some kind of an organization. You can't just post in Facebook to people you've never met that happened to be other drivers. It just doesn't work. You don't feel any attachment, you don't feel any, you know, like you're in this together. You have to have some kind of a driver's organization where you meet and meet face to face and talk over these things and plan it out. You can't just go. You know, we see it all the time on Facebook, hey guys, you know, let's show them, let's really show them, let's not drive this Wednesday or whatever it is, and you know that just doesn't work.

Speaker 2:

You have to have some kind of an organization that has some structure to it and some communication. Melody said disgruntled. I kind of like that one, I think it's. I think it's better than protest, because disgruntled like.

Speaker 3:

It's one of those words you're like yeah, because you know it's always. Always he was shot by a disgruntled co-worker. Yes, yes, for sure. That's what always pops into mind like I.

Speaker 2:

I do believe protest does does work, but like I was looking for maybe another word. That's not common in those kind of things, but yeah disgruntled.

Speaker 3:

Thanks bubba, sue, thanks, melody. Yeah, that's great. We're illiterate, we don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh yeah, illiterate, we don't do geography or math no, I did math on nashville, though, with all the cash I made.

Speaker 3:

Yo oh baboon you need a rim shot there, oh yeah, whoops uh I always forget. I have these, I took I got this whole board.

Speaker 2:

I use one button on it to play the intro music, the rest of them, I don't even remember gotta use it, man, you gotta justify that cost I know, I know I need to put, I don't know, it's just over to my left, but uh, moving on Instacart. Uh, let's see what's there. Oh, more delivery options from Kroger and uh grocers in the country, costco.

Speaker 3:

Kroger, uh, harman's, woodman's uh haven't heard of those last two but they're going to do some stuff called, uh.

Speaker 3:

They have one that's called priority delivery, um, you know, which offers, I guess, a faster delivery, um, I'm sure, for, uh, maybe a little expanded price. Uh, there's also one called no rush delivery, which is the other end of the scale, which lets Costco members schedule orders. You can schedule it hours or days in advance and earn added savings by being flexible on your delivery window. So customers who need items faster can turn to priority delivery and get their items in as fast as 30 minutes. So that's, that's pretty priority, that's pretty quick.

Speaker 2:

I'd be curious what the what the cost of that is. I mean, I know with Walmart Pluses we're members. If you want it that quick, you have to pay an extra five or 10 bucks, I think Right right, and I'm sure that's the case here.

Speaker 3:

It doesn't spell it out here, but Kroger is introducing some of the same things. They're introducing express delivery. Uh, that's again 30 minutes. Quickly is 30 minutes. Um, yeah, so they're just, you know, they're trying to expand their, their offerings, and give customers a little bit of choice, if they. You know, if you want to save a little money, you don't need it right away, you can schedule it out, you know, um, maybe for tomorrow, a couple days away, things like that. But yeah, there's always people who are like you know, I need, I need this right now, I want it right now, I need this bottle of Jim Beam immediately, and so you pay a little extra, get it delivered in 30 minutes or so.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, speaking of that, I forgot, like with the stories from the road, I delivered so much booze on the 4th of July. Oh, I'm sure yeah it was I loved it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was, I loved it, and some of them they weren't like outstanding orders, but like 10, 12 bucks to go five miles with a bottle of like, literally like Jagermeister or rum or whatever. It's so easy, like you're got it. The only thing that could be easier is if they could put the beer aisle closer to the front door, because I mean I just go right there, boom, boom, boom, and I definitely had to kind of learn and Gabe will probably laugh at this because I messaged him and I could not find. Ok, sorry, back up have to learn. The Ubers like, or Meijer's stocking system, like Walmarts I know how to use it, but Meijer't um, oh, that's right, I got a free case of bush too. I forgot all these stories gabe heard them all.

Speaker 2:

Um, I had to learn their numbering system because if and I know you're not a big drinker, um, but if you do you know what jagermeister is. Is it a whiskey, a rum, a vodka, a gin? What is it? Oh yeah, no, I don't know. No one knows it's not any of those. So, like normally, when I get booze, I end up going like I know, like, oh, it's a whiskey or it's a rum, and I go to that rum section. Jagermeister, it's like its own thing. So I sat there for 20 minutes Instead of just slowing down looking at the number and system. It was like so many numbers and I was just overwhelmed. And, of course, I found it when I followed the fucking system. What like you're supposed to do?

Speaker 2:

amazing how that works I know, I know I'm such an idiot. But and then, yeah, I got a free case of bush. So stories from the road just jumping in here, uh, I get an order from uber eats five miles case of bush, whatever I go there. I get there, uh, ring the doorbell, no one comes. I I walked down to the back Now, this is on a big lake and it's 4th of July.

Speaker 2:

I mean, there's boats, sea-dos, whatever going on. And so we ended up. I ended up asking them. They were like oh no, we didn't order that, we wouldn't drink bush beer, it's below my. You know, they didn't say that, but they acted like that. I'm like, all right, cool, I'm just trying to deliver it. So I go in there and then wait and you know, as soon as you start communicating on the app, a Walmart or Walmart Uber eats starts the timer. Yeah, and so I texted him, did not call him Uber, call them. They make a courtesy call. And the guy never picked up.

Speaker 2:

So I started driving back, return it. Well, meyer, doesn't take food back once it's out, it's out, you know. You know what I mean. They'll replace it if it's damaged or whatever, but you, I, you cannot get your money back uh, jimothy, yes, it's fucking nasty. I got, I got an ending on this story. So I I get almost there and he's like where'd you leave my beer? And I'm like I didn't message him back. I'm like, first of all, are you that dumb to know that? You know I can't leave your beer and he put in the wrong address so it's not my fault. So obviously I didn't get the tip, but I kept the beer and I'm like who the fuck drinks this? I'm not going to drink this. I mean, I will admit I'm a beer snob, so I ended up giving it to my neighbors.

Speaker 3:

I was like hey, do you guys?

Speaker 2:

like does robert like bush light? And she's like he loves it. I'm like boy, do I have a present for you? And I like hey you got porch beers. Come out and grab a 30 pack. 30 pack of beer.

Speaker 3:

There you go just just off the top fourth of july.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly just off the top of your head. How much do you think a 30 pack of bush beer costs now? Not with deposit, because we have deposit here 10 cents a can.

Speaker 3:

You're asking the wrong dude man. I don't know what any beer costs.

Speaker 2:

I mean if you had to guess 30-pack.

Speaker 3:

I don't know For a Bush, what is it like? 15 bucks?

Speaker 2:

or something I don't know. Gabe knows we talked about it.

Speaker 4:

It's $20 for 30 cans.

Speaker 2:

So it's less than a dollar a can. It's so bad. I love everyone in here that talked about how gross it is.

Speaker 3:

Jager bombs man, oh God.

Speaker 2:

So Pete says from Google Jägermeister is a don't know what that is. Liqueur Is a herbal liqueur. So yeah, I knew it wasn't like a liquor or anything.

Speaker 3:

It sounds like KFC recipe 56,000 spices.

Speaker 2:

Right or Dr Pepper. That's what 23?.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Double it get 56? Double it, get 46. That'd be 46.

Speaker 3:

Oh wearing them out, I mean what did we talk about?

Speaker 2:

we just said it. We just said it. We don't do that, josh bubble, sue is probably a white claw. I've never had a white claw. I don't even know what they taste like. Those are so big. Right now, pete, I don't know. Maybe jason really to ride the bus, and jello scotts are not yucky oh yeah, gabe, careful, all right, we're moving on, moving on.

Speaker 2:

Uh, oh so, waymo. This is not a huge deal, but Waymo is now offering rides for teens. It's 14 to 17, which, okay, that's great. Hey, linda, thanks for joining, linda from Clear water. So yeah. So now that Uber offers, uber Teen, waymo is going to offer it and this is going to be the game changer right here this Waymo offering with no driver in it. I think we're going to talk about it in six months and they're going to like yeah, our teen ridership has outperformed our adult ridership because know how safe it's going to be without a creeper in it.

Speaker 2:

So for sure, I think it's great. That's all I really got to say about.

Speaker 3:

Obviously, we'll talk about way more a little bit, but yeah, and we've talked about it before, that you know, um, as a parent, most parents are probably going to feel safer putting their kid in a waymo with no driver than they are in an uber with a sketchy driver.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, even in those couple of instances where well, a lot of instances where we see, oh, they drove through a puddle or they're back and it's still gonna be.

Speaker 3:

I mean, there's no creeper in the car right, yeah, and and well, you know, the things we've seen haven't been, you know, haven't been accidents or people haven't gotten hurt.

Speaker 3:

You know it's it's funny things like they get stuck in a traffic circle and can't get out but things like that you know it's, it's not, uh, not the end of the world by any means, but yeah, I think the the team ridership, like you said, I think it will outpace the you know the other age groups by far especially in those areas that they're already pretty dense.

Speaker 2:

Um, one thing they did mention there they're gonna have a special customer service agent for those rides. I don't know what that means. If they're actually going to have a human, that's going to be kind of dedicated, dedicated to them, which I think is important, especially like man, like if the kid kind of freaks out, like what happens if it does get stuck in the water or whatever. You want somebody that's like you know, super level-headed, yeah, level-headed be like hey, just you know yeah you know it's gonna be all right, yeah uh, linda says update on my platform.

Speaker 2:

Uber corp reach out is wheeling and dealing with me.

Speaker 3:

What oh, linda, we want more details on that. Linda private chat.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, let's. Uh yeah, send me a, send me a text or give me a call. Uh okay, larry, uh okay, I love this.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so this, this, uh, what we're getting ready to show here, this is, uh, this is the proposed solution. You know, we saw all the riots and out in LA and stuff like that all the way, most the getting destroyed and defaced and vandalized. Well, here's the answer. Here's the answer to that. So, yeah, this is a.

Speaker 2:

You think that's AI. I don't think it is. I think it's too good. I think AI would have screwed up the word Waymo. It's terrible with words.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. I mean, it'd be easy enough to AI to do the picture and then just add the Waymo later. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

That's a good, it looks really good. I love Transformers yeah.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, for our audio listeners. What it is, it's a waymo car that's oh, thank you, it's, you know changed into a transformer that's standing up, you know, the big transformer robots, um, and it's really cool looking yeah, it is now, if, if it could do that, and then I would definitely take a waymo right, especially if someone starts fucking with you, you're like that's right man, and then all of a sudden you're like in there and you're you, you're the eyes, and you're like, yeah, let's beat his ass.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I have a totally random comment from Josh. Josh had said thanks, I love the thumbnail A plus thumbnail. No one's ever said about my thumbnail. I'm just curious what, what did you like about it? I'm just, I'm just totally curious. It was one of the first comments and I forgot to mention it and I don't know why. I just thought about it.

Speaker 3:

Hey, Josh just joined our Telegram.

Speaker 2:

Josh who, josh Josh.

Speaker 3:

I mean his name's Josh, so I'm assuming it's the same Josh.

Speaker 2:

You don't got to pay for Telegram, Josh. It's a free chat. I don't even spam in there. I don't even spam nothing in there.

Speaker 4:

really, I'm not sure what he's referring to when he says maybe it's free. Oh yeah, he is referring telegram.

Speaker 2:

It's okay, he's old, he's 43, he only has the most super space car in the world you can't figure out.

Speaker 3:

Telegram yeah, no, we don't charge for telegram. We charge for our patreon, if you're so inclined.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah, we would love the support on patreon faith.

Speaker 3:

Uh, linda, linda's chat is on tick tock and pizza's on facebook yeah so yeah, that's why you're not seeing it.

Speaker 2:

Jinx, buy me daiko, okay, uh, I am all over the place. Um, where are we at? Um, oh yeah, there we go, I got it waybo in the news. No, you can't josh, because I mute that chat, because it gets busy in there sometimes. Uh, if you want to troll me, you have to tag me.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I shouldn't have said that uh, all right so this is a waymo, um kind of, I think, backing up. Larry shared one, I can't remember what. Oh yeah, this one's just like randomly backing up uh traffic in traffic, so we'll play that 13 seconds I love the music.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I was. I just realized that I'm like, damn it, another YouTube ticket. So yeah, he's just backing up. I already have another one next week planned. I saw it today just randomly. So I just love these. Josh definitely sends me a bunch too, so I really appreciate it. If you ever see anything that's crazy, tag me on TikTok. I know a lot of us are onok and watch a lot of videos on there, although I don't know where I got that one. Most of the way, most I see on reddit, but would appreciate that. But yeah, let's uh, nothing dangerous, just kind of back it up.

Speaker 3:

Don't know what they're doing, so yeah, but I mean, if you're behind him, you don't know if he's gonna keep backing up. He's gonna that's true.

Speaker 2:

well, that's the thing, because you know it's a computer, like, like in your head, you can like rationalize a human being, like OK, what? Ok, maybe they're turning around. But like with a computer, like, how do you rationalize what it's doing? Because you don't have that thought Right.

Speaker 3:

Right, you're like he should not be doing this. So so what's going to keep him from just backing up into my car, because he's already doing something that he should not logically be doing?

Speaker 2:

Right and up into my car because he's already doing something that he should not logically be doing right. And in your head you'd be like, oh, he's gonna look in his camera and see, oh shit, I'm gonna hit that car and yes, it has cameras, it's probably doing the same thing. But you can't rationalize a computer.

Speaker 3:

I just it doesn't work that way yeah, he must have been getting ready to do a three-point turn, like our uber in nashville speaking of get the nope.

Speaker 2:

That's not it. Get this tablet right there, the Octopus tablet. Your riders can play trivia, fun games, win prizes. Your driver loves it because you're all having fun and you tip more. The link is in the description. The tablet, the charger, the holder, all that stuff is free. Check that out, it's. It's a great addition, um to people when they're in your car because, let's face it, sometimes it can. I mean, can you imagine if the uber's in? Do you love how I say I just caught myself. I'll start saying a sentence and I'll literally start how do you even keep up with my shit? Like I feel so bad sometimes.

Speaker 3:

I'm just like I get used to it after a while yeah, I gotta stop doing that.

Speaker 2:

But I was gonna say when we were in nashville uh, if, if they had a tablet, we would be clamoring oh yeah, yeah, we've been going to town on that, uh, on that trivia yeah, linda says offer more karaoke. I know, I know that that, uh, that would be good too. I I don't know why octopus hasn't like integrated that, maybe in their tablets.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that would be they did have some karaoke, just like uh, not like full song selection, things like that, but they'll, they'll pull up like they'll have, I guess, the songs picked out, or at least they used to have a little bit of that and I think another thing that people like and I'm not great at it, but I absolutely love music trivia like I.

Speaker 2:

I never can get like the artist and the song or, but I can get one of them and I will, I just love it. To me it's better than regular trivia because it is fun yeah, you listen to music all the time. You've grown up with it for the last you know. For me, you know 35, 40 years of different kinds of music and and it's just, I love it. I think they should offer that, but what do we?

Speaker 3:

know, yeah, I mean sometimes I do offer like specific kinds of trivia on there, all right moving on sleepwalk.

Speaker 2:

Does anyone ever have to deal with sleepwalking? Are you a sleepwalker? I was, when I was younger man, were you?

Speaker 3:

it runs in our family. My dad was a huge sleepwalker. Yeah, I was a sleepwalker. We were uh this real, real, real short story, me and my dad, uh we were at like a father-son uh church camp when I was younger and I was on the top bunk and woke up in the morning my head was killing me, my elbow and my knee were were all bruised up and I'm like what happened? My dad's, like you don't remember I stood up on the top of the bunk and walk straight off. No, yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So have you like, it's not an issue anymore, you out.

Speaker 3:

No, it was when I was a kid. I I woke up one time. I was drinking a glass of milk and I spilled it like all over myself yeah yeah, my dad would play football in his sleep when he was in high school well, I know it can be dangerous.

Speaker 2:

Like you, if you have a really bad sleepwalker, you have to lock, you have to like put special locks or alarms on, because they'll just freaking walk out in the middle of the street, especially if it's a child gabe said his brother, uh was when we were younger. Yeah, it's terrible when it's uh, when they're young children, but uh, yeah, I did a walker and a talker when I was younger oh I talk in my sleep.

Speaker 2:

Just ask my wife. Yeah, uh. So this uh person sleepwalker shocked to discover the bizarre item she ordered from doordash at 1 am. Uh, she got a eight dollar charge from doash and she had zero memory of ordering. And it was a sauce, a honey mustard sauce from A&W and that's it. She says it started as a young child. It happens up to 10 times a month. I mean, I guess, if that's all you do, I guess that's not horrible. But yeah, she says that I've cleaned, I've put Christmas decorations away, I've crafted items, prepared food, bathed and done laundry. Okay, so you're doing chores.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I'd rather do them when I'm asleep, yeah, and not remember them, and you're like God damn, this house is clean. Man, the laundry's done, folded, put up what happened.

Speaker 2:

I know that's amazing. Up, man, the laundry's done, folded, put up what happened. I know that's amazing. So yeah, apparently. What what's wild to me is like why are they delivering a sauce? Why doesn't doordash step in and say you know what, we're not gonna do that I mean, I guess they don't care, they're getting money right as long as they get paid. Man, what do they care, I guess? But like geez, a freaking sauce, eight dollars. You know that probably wasn't. She probably didn't tip. So the driver delivered a tipless sauce. I would be like I mean, I guess I would do it. Money is money, right, if it's valuable to you. We got to start a new saying what did we talk about last week? If it's valuable for you, it's good to. I don't know something like that. If the trip is valuable, then take it.

Speaker 2:

If it's not, decline it, yeah, move on, move on. So all right, fight breaks out between Uber driver and Atlanta sports reporter.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so this is, I think, a YouTube video, so we'll watch that and then we can discuss.

Speaker 4:

Now to this Tonight. A courtside reporter for the Atlanta Hawks and the dream says that she was attacked by her Uber driver. She says it all started when she asked the driver to roll up the windows and turn on the air conditioning. Our chase Howell spoke with her and the Uber driver, as both have very different accounts here about what happened.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know, baby, I just wanted a cool Uber.

Speaker 4:

That's it. I just wanted a cool Uber Call the cops or refund my money.

Speaker 5:

This is cell phone video of the moment an Uber comfort ride turned into chaos. The driver, miracle Smith, and the passenger, tabitha Turner, can be seen going at it when, all of a sudden, smith sprays Turner with mace, forcing her to drop her phone.

Speaker 1:

I just wanted to go home after work and see my daughter.

Speaker 5:

That's Turner. She says she wasn't only physically assaulted but is also receiving backlash after Smith took to social media about the incident.

Speaker 1:

They flooded my social media with threats. They've reached out to people I work with and work for.

Speaker 5:

But, as the saying goes, it takes two to tango, and this video shows just that. When people watch this video when some people do they're willing to say listen, you were asked to get out of the car multiple times. You also called her an arseler. You're not so much a victim but an instigator. How do you respond to that? There is no one who's going to watch this video and come away from it believing that my client instigated this thing in any way.

Speaker 1:

Why are you in a car if you feel threatened? This is what I do for work. This is how I'm paying to go to school, Like I would never attack any passenger that has ever gotten in my car. I just wanted her to get out of the car.

Speaker 5:

That's Smith, and she says she sprayed Turner with mason self-defense because she saw Turner pull out some sort of sharp object. Next thing you know, smith says the two are out of the car and Turner begins to attack her.

Speaker 1:

So the bite mark is like right here.

Speaker 2:

A bite mark.

Speaker 1:

Right above the end of my jawline.

Speaker 5:

She bit her.

Speaker 1:

And then for my eye. We're watching a video Mo it's here and then the blood vessels in my eye are bruised and healing currently.

Speaker 5:

Needless to say, the police were called and since then a warrant has been issued for Smith's arrest. She tells me she plans on turning herself in Wednesday night In Atlanta. Chase Howell 11 Alive News.

Speaker 4:

Well, right now, only Smith is facing criminal charges. As for any future action, tabitha Turner's attorney says that he plans to file a civil suit against Uber. An Uber spokesperson sent us a statement saying, quote safety is fundamental to the.

Speaker 2:

Shut up. I hate those stupid fucking statements yeah.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, I mean this, this got out of hand for sure. I mean if, if, if you ask a driver to roll up their windows and turn there and they tell you no, you know, either deal with it and write them bad, don't tip them yeah, or end the ride and get another uber, so you're you.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know if they said it. I was looking at tiktok a little bit moe's, like why you're so quiet, so that's the problem. Y'all can't see the video because tiktok hates me. So when we're doing it on the phone, that's what was happening. Um, what they didn't talk about is, I don't think, is that she let her out on the highway. She wanted her to get out on the highway oh yeah, no, no yeah, so that can't do that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they both. Like I said, I I think both of them, both of them. I think we're in the wrong. They both escalated. You know, if they got into a fight, obviously they got outside the car and got into it yeah, the lady had a bite mark on her jaw bite mark, yeah, if, if, yeah, you know, and, um, but the passenger, you know, either.

Speaker 3:

It's like either call the police or or do this or that. Now just get out of the car. If she's told you get out of the car, I'm gonna get out of the car. But yeah, I mean on a highway, that, that, that, that, that's different and I need, I need some clarification, uh, uh.

Speaker 2:

He said what I go? What's an R slur? He said he called her an R slur, retarded, retarded. I don't know. I mean Bubba Sue says racial, but like maybe that's another word for the N word. I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I would say she called her the N word but whatever, um, yeah, they're both, they're both jackasses, it seems from. It seems to be, I mean, like I said, without, you know, we never see, get to see the whole video, but it sounds like they both handle this in a very piss poor way. Um, if you're, if you're in a job, a news, a reporter, where you're out in the public eye like that, you gotta, you gotta be, you know, cognizant of that and how this is gonna look. Yeah, you know, I don't know if she thought she was going to get sympathy when she posted the video, but I mean, you watch TikTok I do.

Speaker 2:

people post videos and they think it's going to go one way and it definitely doesn't.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it definitely doesn't yeah.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, if it was me and it didn't go that way, I would just delete the video.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

It's sure some people fight it to the end, but yeah, I uh, it did not go the way. I think she thought it was gonna go. I think they both made some poor choices yeah, they're both probably gonna deal with it, so although they say they say in the news business, uh, any news is what? Do they say?

Speaker 3:

yeah, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Yeah, exactly, I mean, I don't agree with that. Well, depending, yeah, I mean there are. There is a level where, yes, you've crossed over that.

Speaker 2:

It's bad for sure.

Speaker 3:

If you're in the public eye, this is you know.

Speaker 2:

This doesn't look good on you all right, I was like um looking at, I'm like we're already to the last article, but I guess it is almost eight o'clock.

Speaker 3:

We started late uh, you got one more yeah, we got one more.

Speaker 2:

This guy, uh, I the articles. I appreciate. Appreciate Gabe sending the articles, but some of them you have to buy, so this is kind of, or you find it on some other site. Yeah, that's what I ended up doing. So this guy, the driver, creston or Creston Torres, who started driving for the RideShare app in Baltimore Let me slide this over so I'm not staring at oh, cool an ad. Thank you, I love you. Uh, so he talks about you know he wanted to be a global traveler, but you know you have to be wealthy or own a business, or blah, blah, blah. But he decided he wanted to travel all 50 States. So he has driven in all 50 States, uh, lift and uh, the the. The worker claims he has visited all. I don't think it's been verified, but uh, basically he started from Baltimore and went to the West coast. Um, he tried to. Uh, uh, we got flagged. Oh my God, from what?

Speaker 3:

I don't know, maybe I said the R word.

Speaker 2:

Oh, no yeah, by lifting with larry, oh larry you got.

Speaker 3:

You can't say the full word. Oh, it didn't kick us off, at least my bad guys, my, oh, my gosh. Uh, let's see. You ask what it is. I know I I was.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I don't I'm not a huge fan of that word, but like I no, I'm not either. I I was surprised you went with it. Honestly, I was thinking of it, but it's fine. So he's been driving all around and he says he's been to all 50 states, some of them visited three or four times. This took about three years. Wow, he said. I was stuck at 49 for a while because of the pandemic. When I hit my 50th state, hawaii, I ended up on the local news talking about my travels. I want to know if he, like, shipped his car over Cause, like my son lives in Hawaii, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think it cost him like no, I don't want to misquote it, I want to say it was five grand, but I think it was like, maybe it was. It was insanely expensive.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think he probably just rented a car there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, which makes sense.

Speaker 3:

And I forget that you can drive lift anywhere in the United States and I don't know why it won't let me drive lift when I come to Michigan. Really, yeah, it all depends on on the local. You know what the back, you know your, what your state has to do for inspections and different things. Cause, yeah, I remember I've tried to do lift, uh, I mean, mean your state's the only place, uh, that and right around dc are the only two places that I haven't been able to do lift okay, hmm, I yeah, he makes it sound like he's able to and I know I know early on they were pretty strict about that.

Speaker 2:

But I mean I wonder if they've laxed up on it since the like. Have you tried since the pandemic to drive lift up here? I mean, um, thanks, josh for the like, appreciate it.

Speaker 3:

I did. Uh, what was it Two years ago, I guess?

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

So, the year the year yeah, the year I had the wreck on the way back.

Speaker 1:

We don't even talk about that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, uh, but yeah, last year I flew, so I didn't have a car, and this this year we went, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

So yeah.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, you know he's done it all.

Speaker 3:

Josh says I can't do Lyft and Jersey but, I can do Uber and Jersey, so usually it's usually backwards, usually the other way around. Lyft is usually way more lax about it, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, I remember early on Gabe says the bigger city have stricter restrictions, which makes sense with dc. But I remember early on I couldn't drive in detroit from grand rapids because of whatever yeah, I couldn't do tennessee when it first started uber or lyft yeah or no.

Speaker 3:

No, I could do lyft, not uber, but uh, yeah, I think, um what this guy, you know, if he's wanting to do all 50 states, I mean he may have whatever he needed to do in that state. He may have, you know, may have had to do something. He may have had to get in and state inspection or something like that. Um, because you know, that's what it said when I was in michigan. It said you don't have the proper inspection or something. So I'm sure I could have done that and then drove for lift, so he may have had to do some of that that's a good point.

Speaker 3:

Didn't really talk about it yeah, I don't, I don't know if he could just, you know, off the bat, go and do lift everywhere yeah, not something I would do.

Speaker 2:

I know uh mo from mo side hustles on tiktok. She, she traveled, dashes quite a bit like when her boyfriend travels. She'll meet in there and and do it quite a bit. So I think it's cool to have that option. I did a curry when I was in clearwater. Um, honestly, I may have done some work and I can't believe none of us did work in nashville like john had a car, seth had a car, I mean this just had a car. You had a car, that's right, you had a car. Um, why would I want to work in nashville?

Speaker 3:

I don't know it's not. Yeah, it's nothing new to you, that's right I?

Speaker 2:

mean, just when you go in an area, it's kind of yeah, it's kind of little adventurous, it's a little scary too.

Speaker 3:

I mean I've turned on, lyft and in uh when I was down in dunedin and uh I got I got. You know, I got pinged but I didn't take the ride because it was shit.

Speaker 2:

Gabe says we turned the uber app on, but did you take one? That's the thing like did you die, did you?

Speaker 3:

oh, we were down there we were down there turning all the apps on. We had Curry on, faith was giving her master class, and then we had Rody XD Faith finally got it.

Speaker 2:

They all started offering it, but anyways, yeah, that was fun. All right, we're going to wrap this up. We were obviously a little late because we were having some trouble with the TikTokiktok. Did you know? If you go tiktok, I have to check with maureen, because she's the queen of that, because the random people I'm like stop, why are you connecting to my live?

Speaker 3:

I should be able to have a little trouble with some randos trying to join our show yeah, I couldn't figure it out, but I'll talk to mo about that.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully we'll get it fixed next week. The reason we're doing like this on the phone? Because, for whatever reason they say we're, we're not providing our own content and so they wouldn't push the live out. I know it's super annoying, but help us get to a thousand followers. If we can do that, we can do it in the normal way. That'd be great. That'd be great, cause I do love the TikTok platform. I think it's great. I spend most of my time on it. I'll be honest with you, but anyways, so yeah, patreon in six minutes. If you are a $7 tier, you can join that and we'll be live and I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about. And, as always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit. We'll see you on the road. Good night Night everybody. Peace. This podcast is produced and edited by HeyGuysMediaGroup. Want to start a podcast? Check out heyguysmediagroupcom.

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