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Robotaxis, Rideshare Fees & $10K DoorDash Disaster | Gig Economy News | Ep 266
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Ever wondered what happens when a gig worker has to jump a fence during an Amazon delivery? Or how Nashville became home to some of the highest airport rideshare fees in America? The Gig Economy Podcast dives deep into these stories and more as we explore the increasingly chaotic landscape facing today's drivers.
When Nashville International Airport implemented a combined $12 round-trip surcharge for rideshare vehicles while simultaneously forcing drivers to use confusing parking garage drop-offs instead of terminal curbsides, it highlighted the growing tension between traditional services and the gig economy. Meanwhile, autonomous vehicles continue their march into mainstream transportation, with Tesla expanding its robo-taxi service from Austin to California's Bay Area—though their boast of 7,000 miles without incidents drew chuckles from hosts who regularly exceed that distance in mere months of driving.
The darker side of the gig economy emerges in shocking incidents captured on video: a rideshare driver with a fake license physically assaulting a CEO over his service dog, a DoorDash driver confronted by a nude customer, and a pedestrian violently attacking a Waymo autonomous vehicle. These stories illuminate the very real safety concerns facing both human and robotic participants in today's transportation ecosystem.
From Uber's surprising partnership with Turo allowing in-app car rentals to Walmart Spark's changing delivery structure, we examine how companies continue shifting their business models—often at drivers' expense. We also provide practical insight on how canceling rides affects passenger ratings (it doesn't!) and share our experiences with app algorithms and promotional opportunities that vary wildly between markets.
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Hello, hello, welcome to the Gig Economy Podcast, episode 266. I think it's a record. Faith is the first commentator on the live stream. Oh hi, faith, where's Bubba Sue and Traveler? They're usually like are we on the right time?
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 1:Holy cow traveler. They're usually like are we on the right time? I think so, holy cow. Uh, yeah, we're gonna talk robo taxis, of course, ride share fees, a 10 000 door dash disaster nope, we're not gonna actually talk about that, I just realized that. And, of course, much more gig economy news. Uh, go to gig economy showcom for everything podcast related.
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Speaker 1:And then, of course, we have the telegram group and larry's gonna tell you yeah so our Telegram group.
Speaker 2:that's just how we communicate back and forth, since we're scattered all over the country. It's like a text app, but you can also do video messages and voice messages. So if you're out driving, it's kind of good not to have to try to text while you're driving, but it's real easy to do a voice message. You can get to know gig workers from all over the world, make some friends not feel so lonely when you're out there. The Telegram group is starting to pick back up a little bit. We're getting some more chatter in there and because of that we're going to start doing a new feature on the show called the Telegram Clip of the Week. So this inaugural clip of the week is going to be a little bit about what jason was up to this weekend uh, brought to you by faith.
Speaker 1:She sent it. So here we go to ymca and they're like, well, I hit the buzzer because they're not open. She's like she's not here. I'm like, well, I'm here now. So she lets you bring it in. So then I take I'm walking back.
Speaker 1:I I should always just walk back the way I came, but I was trying to take a shortcut and I ended up having to hop a fence. I literally just jumped a fence and I'm too fat and fucking old to do that. And, you're right, I am allergic to work. It's time for me to punch out and go relax. So there, I forgot. I said that, uh, I prefer it not be me every week. But uh, you, you know, if I say something funny, faith thought it was funny enough for the clip of the week. So I'll just, you know, jump into stories from the road from that, because that's basically what it was. I had another Amazon route from hell down to Kalamazoo and was real frustrated about it and just could not get into a groove. Like when you do Amazon routes a lot of times and you know, faith knows you're just kind of boom, ba, boom, ba, boom and, excuse me, I get to rhythm yeah, a rhythm, even with ride share, just kind of like.
Speaker 1:And I, every time I got a new uh like, my next stop was there was something odd about it or it was in the hood, and this one was at a ymca. I had walked all the way around the building and they finally, you know, buzzed me in to deliver the package. And this one was at a YMCA. I had walked all the way around the building and they finally, you know, buzzed me in to deliver the package. And I was like, well, I don't want to walk all the way around. So I walked the other way and basically put myself in a like alley and there was a fence there and you know what I said fuck it. And I jumped it and I I tried to get and I'm kind of out of shape currently I'm in the I'm in the out of shape uh state right now. So I kind of jump up and I kind of fell back again. I had to do one more hop and then I finally got over, but I was sore from that. So, yeah, that was, that was a little adventure.
Speaker 2:So and he didn't have his amazon vest on, so he's just some random dude jumping fences back there and he's lucky somebody didn't pop a shot off at you.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I mean I'm not straight in the hood, but I'm definitely downtown. Uh, some of the people in the group I had asked, uh that know this. I had asked them hey, I uh I need a vest, and they're like I ain't got one. You know what I mean. They were out of them. So I was like, oh shit, I mean my vest is so old, it's's got like freaking mustard stains on it. And I'm like, the one time I forget it, they don't have a new one for me, so that was a little frustrating, but yeah, it was just a long freaking route.
Speaker 1:So yeah, faith says Sue, you need to start using voice record. You can be the clip of the week. Well, yeah, she says she's technology or tech, tech challenged. But hopefully she can figure it out. Yeah, yeah, surely. Uh, larry, what about you? You wrote nothing, crazy nothing crazy.
Speaker 2:Uh, definitely back into doing you know the uh thursday, thursday nights and saturday night ride, share um with the college crowd. But so far, so good. Everybody's been pretty well behaved. We had our first football game at WKU this year. They were one of the four teams that played in week zero this year and so I had a game on Saturday. It was like an hour and a half before the game even started I got called. I was taking people to tailgate all day. The game started like six o'clock at night, but around four, maybe 4.15 that afternoon, I got a call to go pick some people up from there and these four girls get in. The poor girl that gets in the front, she is just gone. Oh no, and she's like I'm so tired. I'm like who are you? Think you're fooling me? She was trashed she was so trashed.
Speaker 2:And then the girl in the back's all chipper. She's like, hey, can I do a shot when we get back the house? The girl's like, yeah, if you want to do a shot, we'll do shots you're like, please don't do it here.
Speaker 1:How about a shot of water?
Speaker 2:yeah, no, I'd crank that air oh yeah, yep, freeze them out. And uh, she was fine, she didn't know, she didn't get sick or anything, but um, it's. It always cracks me up when the people like don't even make it all the way through the tailgate. Yeah, like two hours before the game even starts and they're done well, I think they'd go, just a drink, oh yeah, most of them don't go to the game. Most of them do not go to the game even starts and they're done.
Speaker 1:Well, I think they'd go just to drink. Oh yeah, most of them don't go to the game. Most of them do not go to the game for sure. I also often wonder when I notice, when I go to concerts, and people spend all that money for the tickets and then they're spending. You know, it's like $20 for a beer and they're getting ham. I'm like yeah, why. And you don't even remember the experience. Right and you spent so much money just go to your local bar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you know, play your songs on spotify on your phone and get trashed at home and save all that money I mean they'll say well, it's the experience.
Speaker 1:I'm like what experience you getting blackout drunk?
Speaker 2:yeah, you don't remember that. You don't even remember the experience.
Speaker 1:That's never made sense to me yeah, I know, but the last show I went to that was a lot of it. So yeah, oh yeah, um, all right. Well, we'll just jump right into gig economy in the news. Uh, another spark update, larry, and um, I need to do a tip on this continues to go downhill.
Speaker 2:So this is this is a notification from spark. They they sent out to drivers. It says hi there. Starting on 8-21, some Walmart stores in your area will begin batching grocery and dot-com orders into the same trip for curbside pickup. Grocery and dot-com orders will now be part of the same trip but will remain in separate bags with clear labels with scheduled delivery for grocery orders and GMD for dot-com orders For scheduled delivery grocery. Any one of the labels can be scanned. So a lot of talk on this post. On Reddit people were pointing out that number one. One of the good comments was remember guys, whenever they change stuff, it's not to help us out.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:It's whatever's going to be better for the company, which is true. And two, they're having to do this because nobody's picking up these orders right, right, yeah, that that well.
Speaker 1:So, interesting enough, when I started walmart I used to do a lot of the we call. What do we call them? Not, it's not general. I know it's general, but either dot com or batch order, I don't know there was a name I used to call, I don't know. But anyways, and they, yeah, I used to do those. Yeah, they used to pay pretty good, but now they're just like so bad as far as like what they pay yeah, yeah, I remember doing a lot of mine.
Speaker 2:Probably a good portion of my orders that I did when I was doing spark was were like that. You know it was those. You know you might have 19 stops or whatever, but it's just one or maybe two. You know sealed bags for each stop and you know it's pretty easy, uh, but usually you did put some miles on the car, uh, when you did those yeah, um.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't mind the miles, I just looked at it like an amazon route, um, but as long as you paid enough to cover everything to make it worth your while.
Speaker 2:It was great, yeah, but like everything else, they're slowly chipping away at how much they wanted to pay the drivers yeah, I mean I, I honestly don't have a problem with it as long as the pay it correlates.
Speaker 1:I mean I don't look at. I mean obviously I do look at how many items, even if it's paying really good. If it's like 250 items I might pass on that, but sure you know if it's, if it's two orders and on the way I have to deliver.
Speaker 1:You know a, you know a very free, yeah I don't mind if it's the pays there yeah they're probably seeing that no drivers are taking it, so they're sprinkling them in, although it's not going to be a ton, though I mean it can't. I mean, as far as routing goes, cause, like usually when I'm doing it, it's a good size route. So, yeah, the chances of me taking a grocery delivery in that area, maybe only like one package, it might not, it's not going to be like a ton of stuff, but yeah, full, full order. Uh, she says her general merchandise routes, faith have found pay better than amazon bay. Oh then the base. Yeah, well, yeah, the base is trash, um, but I don't look at it as I guess I don't know. I look, I don't know why I do this. I strictly look at hourly on amazon flex, but I look look at, uh, my, how much, like how many dollars per mile on Walmart spark.
Speaker 2:I don't know why that is, but yeah, it's funny, our mind, like you, kind of focus on something. When you start doing a different uh app, you know different gig and and you just kind of start building your you know your view of that app around whatever that particular metric is yeah, and that's what you and that's what you around. Whatever that particular metric is, yes, and that's what you go to every time. And, like I said, it could be the same, similar type of gigs and you rationally should be looking at the same thing to do apples to apples, but you don't because that's not how your mind remembers it.
Speaker 1:Well, exactly, put it into the box. If I took, uh, if I did a dollar a mile on Amazon, I'd never, I'd never do a route because it's you know, I do sometimes I do 150 miles. I'm not getting 150 miles for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for that route. When we do ride share we're like dollar mile, I'm not, I'm not, not moving unless it's two dollars yeah, well, because that's what they're paying and in the month you know.
Speaker 1:If they were paying less, we would say, okay, a dollar a mile, like where we are now. It's all depending on what the company is willing to pay, sure sure you have to be rational.
Speaker 2:You can't go out here and go.
Speaker 1:I'm not moving for less than five dollars right and then and I think the amazon one is like you can hurry and get it done. So then like, oh, I got it done in two hours instead of three, so I'm really making 45 an hour right, yeah, you can rationalize it I think that's part of the problem with people doing some gig work too is like they rationalize it too much oh, you can yeah, yeah, you can rationalize it.
Speaker 2:Either way good, or bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, you got to look at the numbers at the end of the day and you know, and really it's really hard to figure out during the year. I mean, I know there's like formulas that give you an estimate, but like right, it's really when you do your taxes and you're just like holy shit, like this is this didn't work? Um, all right. Moving on, oh god, this pissed me off, these freaking fees from these airports and of course, it's nashville of all places. Um, so new nashville airport ride share fees among the highest of any us airport. Uh, so it looks like hidden in the receipt is a $5 standard pickup fee or drop off at the airport that goes directly to B&A. Metro also collects an additional $2. The money collected by the airport goes towards more than $500 million in transportation and roadway infrastructure projects. A B&N spokesperson said their money helps maintain upgrade facilities. You'd buy a ride share of cars without relying on any taxpayer money. I mean, honestly, I think the taxpayer should pay a little bit of it, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:The surcharge was passed by the council in 2007. It has collected an average of $4.3 million over the past three years. It's a lot of money. They have no discussion right now to eliminate the $2 surcharge. So the combined round trip surcharge is twelve dollars. Is among as among among the highest in us of any us airport. Uh, so uber said the surcharge adds to airport trips should only be spent on offsetting the airport's operational costs and funding improvements to the rideshare experience. Well, I, I wouldn't say for me, I wouldn't say only I how about we split it?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know, let's do 50, 50, um.
Speaker 1:Well, the airport is aligned with these goals for the portion of the fee. We encourage tennessee legislator to take a closer look at the two dollar fee. Um. So then it kind of talks about you know some musicians that take it and it costs you know 50 bucks each way. Uh, the really shitty part is this is where I think people get pissed off. He said the the fees are unnecessary to pay for projects like the new ride share center that he thinks making getting a ride to the airport much more complicated because drivers are no longer allowed to drop passengers off at the curbside like curve outside the terminal. They have to use the parking garage and it's a five minute walk. And you made that walk. You know what that walk is. We did and it honestly so yeah
Speaker 2:go ahead I was gonna say honestly, it's so damn confusing yeah, it is. It is you can get lost for sure. Yeah, not end up in the right spot.
Speaker 2:It's almost like they're punishing ride share drivers and that's what I was going to bring into it. There has been a lot of contention between the ride share drivers in the nashville airport and, for a while, like they, they, they banned them, like they wouldn't let them come on premise there for a little bit, and, and and of course you know, we know this, um, this ride share union that's trying to form down there. That keeps, you know, contacting me for a while, trying to get me to come to the meetings and and, uh, vote to ban myself since I'm out of state driver, you know. So I think that may be all, all part of this. Um, uh, what's going on? Um, cause taxis are still allowed to drop off at the curb. Oh, are they ride share drivers? They are. Yeah, they're still. They'll take you right up to the door.
Speaker 2:We'll see there's gotta be some drivers have to go down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was gonna say there's gotta be some lobbying going on or some some to get that deal. Yeah, politics, yeah, there's some politics going on for sure. Yeah, yeah, it's frustrating. I mean it's frustrating as a passenger and a driver like um, you know, I remember faith and gabe. They're like well, larry said it's that which your information was fine, but you're just overwhelmed, you know, and just, I wish they would make it easier. And then you get out there and you gotta walk, which I don't. I don't mind walking, but it was like you know, back and forth up and down, and then it was kind of like exhausty in there too.
Speaker 2:I like it was yeah, yeah, cause all those cars, yeah, the garage and yeah all that stuff. Yeah, it is. It's not a good experience.
Speaker 1:No, it's not so. Now they have the biggest fees, and that's not very good, so it is not uh, but we're, but Elon's going to save us. Uh, robo taxi service expands to another U S city, so um, yeah.
Speaker 2:And and he's going to say I mean, you won't need to take uh, you won't need to take Uber lift in Nashville, cause you'll be able to get in his tunnel. That's true, you won't have to worry about it. That's what he says. So, yeah, this story is about Tesla, their robo-taxi service, expanding to another they say city, but kind of an area really. So they wrote out their service, the robo-taxi service in the Bay Area, california's Bay Area. It covers an area kind of from north of San Francisco down past San Jose. They're using the Model Ys for this service. Okay, elon says that the service, uh, he's hoping to make it cheaper than a bus ticket. I don't know how much a bus ticket is in San Jose, but that's hard to imagine. So in Austin, which is the other area where they have the robo taxis, uh, austin, when they have a safety monitor who sits in the passenger seat. So they're not even in a driver's seat, they're in the passenger seat, they're just the passenger seat.
Speaker 2:Oh really, they're just monitoring the ones in the Bay Area. They're going to have a human driver in the driver's seat ready to take control if something happens. That's probably something I'm sure that they had to do or agree to in order for California to let them in. Yeah, so it says why they're not what they call fully autonomous, because they do have somebody in the driver's seat. It's definitely a step forward for them. They're trying to compete with Waymo, which does not have drivers in the driver's seat. They go on to talk a lot of other things about the whole tough years Tesla's had with different things, but uh, yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't understand how you can have a safety monitor in the in the passenger seat, like what is he going to do? Uh, you know, I don't know, I'm going to watch people die and just be like, well, I, I watch people die and just be like well, I, I observed it.
Speaker 2:Well, he's in there too. So well, I know, I know. Yeah, I don't know, maybe, maybe it's like a uh, maybe it's like one of those driver's ed cars where that breaks and stuff on both sides what's the point of that?
Speaker 1:you might as well maybe they want the illusion of it like exactly self-driving, even though he does have control yeah, when people look in like, oh, there's nobody there, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, who knows well?
Speaker 1:it'll be interesting to see on the price because, as we talked about with the waymos, they have gotten quite a bit more expensive, which I'm not hating on. For that the shit costs a lot of money, you know like I get it, yeah it certainly does I mean this happened with uber and lyft too. It was really cheap, paid the drivers a lot of money, everything was subsidized and now you know everything is, they took away from us and there's, and they're charging the, the riders, a lot of money.
Speaker 1:So exactly frustrating either way it is yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, we'll have to see, you know, as he rolls these robo taxis out, uh, into more and more areas, because you know said they're going to be in most cities by the end of the year. So yeah, I don't know we'll see I am excited about the tunnel thing.
Speaker 1:I I know that they have that one in vegas. I'm assuming it's functional like that it is functional.
Speaker 2:Um, last I read they they for some reason you know, they were planning on being able to go like really, you know, really fast, because you're a, you're in a tunnel there, there's nothing to hit. They were hoping to go 100 miles an hour, but last I heard they were doing 30 miles an hour 30?. I don't know why you went from 100 to 30. I thought you were going to say 70.
Speaker 1:I was like okay, well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, If it comes to fruition, I'll definitely try it out. Oh hell yes. Yes, Hopefully they'll definitely try it out. Oh hell yes, yes. And hopefully they'll turn on Waymo cars. Hopefully they don't just test in Nashville. Hopefully they actually offer rides there in the near future.
Speaker 1:How long is that tunnel supposed to be?
Speaker 2:Well, it goes to. I think it's like 15 miles, Cause it goes from the airport to downtown and there's going to be like different exits downtown that you can get off it's not just like it and there's going to be like different exits downtown that you can get off.
Speaker 2:It's not just like it's not a one shot, like no, it's not. You can enter here and you come out here. I think I think on the airport it would just have probably one entry, one entrance and exit, but on the downtown, yeah, from what I've read, it's going to have several stops. So like, if you need you know whatever stop you need to go get off at, it's going to be programmed, you know, get off to that exit where we need to go. So, yeah, yeah, if it works, I mean it's going to be cool. They need to get all this ready because you know there's going to be so many people come to town when Tay, tay and Kelsey get married in Nashville. You think they're going to get married in Nashville? No, I'd probably not. But I mean she, it's not beyond a reasonable doubt, you know. I mean that's where she, she lives and, uh, she loves Nashville. From everything I've read.
Speaker 1:I mean, she's from there, she's from right outside Nashville. Yeah, it's funny. Um, obviously most of the older kids I drive for school, they all have smartphones, so I didn't say anything. But the younger kids I was so excited to tell them because, like every girl on my bus, you know it's kindergarten through fourth grade. They love t swift oh and I play it for them, and I I like her too, it's like. Whatever, I enjoy some of her music I think she's a great businesswoman too.
Speaker 1:It's insane. But, um, yeah, so I was like guys, I have a major announcement. They're like yeah, we know. And I'm like the teachers told them and I'm like, first of all, you bust my balls. Second of all, you ain't even very excited about it. Like has everyone burned out on her? Like I don't understand, like I thought people I mean it feels like a lot of people online were like losing their mind about it.
Speaker 1:But my kids were just like yeah, we heard I'm like yeah, all right, well, I guess I'll take you home now. I was so excited to tell you get off my bus. Yeah, you can walk home it's like when you uh give your your own children a christmas present you're really excited for they're like yeah, they open it and look at it and set it down. Yeah, thank you oh don't you know, I'm paying for this reaction of like dad, you're the best exactly exactly, even if you don't mean it.
Speaker 1:Yeah at least say it for me. Yeah, take it. Oh my gosh, whatever it takes uh, over the last couple weeks there has been a video posting and I'm just going to give not a trigger warning, it's just it's. It's a little rough to watch. Um, a ceo of a company, I don't know which one, was assaulted by a uber driver. Uh, so we'll watch that a little bit. Uh, let's see, here we go 22 seconds someone just not someone, just um punched someone.
Speaker 1:He fell on the ground and his head is bleeding from the back. He got knocked over and he got hit his head.
Speaker 3:He's bleeding very badly in the back of the head.
Speaker 2:We're gonna need an ambulance where's the suspect now he has driven off?
Speaker 1:so, uh, you couldn't see the words on there, but there was a, uh, apparently that was a service dog and the driver had a fake license. Yeah, so it wasn't even like valid to even drive, yeah and for that for the audio listeners.
Speaker 2:so it's a? Uh, russia driver, uh, apparently there's been some kind of you know, confrontation going on. He's out in the back talking to the passenger. The passenger is holding a dog, a small, pretty small dog. A very small dog, the driver. You can tell he's angry. He comes up and headbutts the guy and then just a right hand knocks the guy out. The guy, just out cold, falls back and slams his head against the pavement. Pretty bad apparently, because, like they said he was, he was bleeding pretty bad from the head, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, for one, I could kind of tell that the person wasn't from here, because you don't see very many head button people in America. I feel like you're from a different country. You live in a different kind of life. If you're out there, fucking head, it's not a move. People expect's for sure nah, you ain't yeah. If you're yeah, you're not expecting that. Uh, I'm very frustrated that he was able to get through the platform. Clearly, a piece of shit, um, the fake license thing. I mean what do we do, larry? How do I mean? What else can we do to combat this? It's not an immigrant thing, it's just, you know, he may not even be an immigrant, he may be from here.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that wasn't even ever, I don't think, mentioned yeah, but yeah, I mean it's tough. You know, there's always going to be people who manage to slip through the cracks one way or another, unfortunately, yeah, but it's scary, yeah, unfortunately um, yeah, but it's scary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, somebody gets that heated over. Yeah, what is he even getting heated over like?
Speaker 2:that bad that you're about the service dog. I don't remember reading. Uh, what if they, if they did ever list what it was, you know what they thought he was mad about, um obviously said a fleet driver.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so that I mean, don't they have to do the same work? You know, as far as, like, applying for the platform, like you have to be on the platform to be a fleet driver, right or no, or can you be a?
Speaker 2:fine, you still have to be background checked and everything.
Speaker 1:I would think yeah, I'm assuming I didn't know if there was a little less like restrictions. If you're like a fleet owner and then you, you know, hire a driver, is it your responsibility to background check, or is Uber doing that? Or again, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if we've ever really talked in depth with anybody who I know fleet thing that was, that seemed like that was bigger when uber first kind of you know first couple years.
Speaker 1:I haven't heard much about I mean I have, I have seen people doing it, but I don't know the the like, logistics or documentation or whatever mechanics are behind it.
Speaker 2:As far as who, who's responsible for what?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean, I don't think, I don't like that. They can do that unless they follow the same everything like Uber and it's just they pay the driver whatever. They pay him like an hourly rate, Because obviously they're probably splitting some of the revenue, which ain't much anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, you're doing a $2 ride.
Speaker 1:and then how does How's?
Speaker 2:that split.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know, is he renting the car to the guy? Because you split $2, and you're're paying the driver and you have to pay for the maintenance like I don't see where the the profit margin is in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, slim margin, unless you have a big fleet. I guess I don't know. Yeah, you, I mean, and again you, you wonder how? I mean, does this person? They know they've got to know they're gonna be fired over this because there's cameras everywhere. Oh yeah, there's a guy there with a phone and I think it looked like he's recording the plate as the guy drove off.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah, if you're gonna headbutt somebody, you don't give a shit. If you're gonna get fired obviously not, obviously not.
Speaker 2:You know, but yeah, I mean that happens. We say that so many times. You know, don't they know they're going to be fired at that.
Speaker 1:You know, people just can't control their anger sometimes the wires cross and they're just like I don't give a shit in this moment but to to head bet a guy, punch him and then just leave, like I. I'm really curious. I haven't seen much else on it other than that video, but I'm really curious what the interaction was, because obviously there's going to be a loss. I think he already filed it oh yeah, I would.
Speaker 1:Maybe I'll try to dig a little bit deeper before the next show just to kind of see, hear his side of the story.
Speaker 2:Hear any follow-up on it?
Speaker 1:yeah, that'd be cool uh, larry canceling an uber ride affects your rating well here's how it can.
Speaker 2:Oh, sorry the long and the short of it it really doesn't.
Speaker 2:It really doesn't. Don't say that we talked about it last week. There's a guy, nate Galasik he's the one from Atlanta. We did the story last week. He wants to get a Waymo car yeah, that's right Running through Uber. So he cancels 20, 25 times before he gets matched with a Waymo car. And he said you know, there's no evidence that it's hurt his rating in any way. He said that. You know, every time he cancels he gets a refund from Uber immediately. He said you know, as long as you cancel right away, you don't have to pay. He hasn't noticed any hit to his rating. He said the only one downside that he has seen is they'll put him in timeout for a while oh really he doesn't say how many rides.
Speaker 2:He said Uber has blocked his ability request rides for anywhere between 20, 30 minutes after he's canceled a bunch of them in a row. So but he said once that you know, once that time period's up, he's he's able to start requesting more rides again as soon as that timeout is. So yeah, if you cancel 20 or 30 times, they might put you in a 20 or 30 minute timeout. So don't do that. If you have somewhere important that you really need to go and you don't have any other way to get there, I guess yeah, so it doesn't lower your rating at all, or anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uber, of course, didn't respond to any questions about its policy on canceling rides. Um, they don't say on their website anywhere if it's going to affect your rating. Um, yeah, the only thing it says is drivers and riders have a chance to rate each other after a trip ends. But if you're canceling the ride, yeah, then then the you know the driver doesn't have a chance to race you because he never had you as a passenger. Um, yeah, it says there's there's no, uh, no indication that that it's going to affect your, your passenger rating.
Speaker 1:I wonder if they send scary emails, like they do to us when we cancel too much, like the, the whole song and dance. Like canceling out of effects, efficiency of the platform or given riders rides yeah, that would be interesting to find out.
Speaker 2:Uh, should try it sometimes just cancel about 100 of them in a day and then see if I get it my luck.
Speaker 1:I'd fuck it up and they charge me for every single one of those and all of a sudden I'd have 150 worth of cancellation fees that I would wake up and they're like you've been deactivated as a driver.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah you gotta play the game when you're using it as a passenger, because I wouldn't doubt if they, if you, were a bad like. Honestly, my rating is lower as a passenger than it is as a driver, which is freaking hilarious Because, like again, I've never. I haven't done anything Like I haven't been, you know, shit face. I mean I've been shit face but I haven't been rude. I mean I don't know, maybe I touched some guy's boot or something, I'm not sure. Pete says I'll send you a scary email, bro, I'll send you an. Oh, shut up. Well, we know faith is lower. We, we, I can track that a hundred percent. I hung out with faith, not that it was bad it can be,
Speaker 1:a little experience it can be a little intense. That's why we love her that's right, that is correct.
Speaker 2:We had a great time. We did have a great time, it was wonderful. So, yeah, yeah, uh, yeah, that's the only thing I'd be worried about as a driver. Somehow they would, you know, have my passenger and driver account connected and they cancel me on both of them and I couldn't drive anymore. That would be bad, that would be bad. So, yeah, I probably won't be when we trying that out. Maybe I'll, maybe I'll, you know, create a another account, like so many people do with a different credit card. But you need a new phone, you need a phone number difference.
Speaker 1:They won't.
Speaker 2:I don't think you can or can you do it with phone? I do, I do, but uh, yeah, they're probably both connected to my uber account.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure um, yeah, don't, don't do that I was gonna say. And, speaking of taking rides, I officially took my stickers off my car and threw them in the trash did you really yeah, yeah. I uh lyft and uber. I was just like fuck it, if I'm gonna do a ride, what you know I'm not gonna be, although freaking gabe got that quest yeah, that you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:That was sweet, I never. I didn't look, sorry, I completely squirreled. Um well, because I was excited about that. Was that rides and eats, or was it just rides?
Speaker 2:He said it was eats too, cause he was talking about taking some eats uh to to. You know, get some of them done.
Speaker 1:That's, that's, what was it? Uh, remind me again, was it like 50 for two, 50?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then another 10, he got it like another 200 bucks.
Speaker 1:Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 2:It was good Four 50.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyways, well, uh, yeah, it was good. 450, yeah, anyways. Well, uh, larry looks that up. Yeah, I was excited he had posted, because I don't even look at it, or like they all send me a notification on uber, like hey you can make an extra 70 bucks next week and I'm like, okay, I'm not even gonna open the app yeah, so his quest was he did six.
Speaker 2:If he does 60 trips, it's 250. If he does another 10, that's another 200.
Speaker 1:So 70 trips total for 450 dude, if I, if that popped up for me I'd be all I'd be grinding nice yeah I'd be grinding. I might call on sick on friday. For my well, we're not, we don't have school this friday. But if it was like a normal friday, like it started at like 5 am, I'd be like I'm coughing, I'm gonna grind this this I'm.
Speaker 2:I'm I'm taking now because you know, since they took away our good rate card and I'm up front pricing like everybody else, but I don't get quest well, you're not the only one, we don't either.
Speaker 1:They're like it's like 10 bucks for 70 rides, like like no, no, I don't get any offers.
Speaker 2:Oh really, they, they, they just don't offer it.
Speaker 2:No promo like no, I've never gotten an uber quest never really the only thing we ever have here is, like it'll do, the downtown, uh, geofenced area. We'll give you extra, you know, four dollars for any rides that start in this area. But like, as far as getting a quest in the app or an email that shows a quest where I told you I don't ever get emails, yeah, and, but yeah, I always look. You know you have the little tab that says opportunities or whatever it says on there. Never anything in there, never.
Speaker 1:It never has been I often wonder if you would stay on one app for a while. Like for a month you just did lyft, and then switch over and just do uber and then lifts, like oh shit, larry, we've missed you.
Speaker 2:And then, instead of like always just doing, mixing it up multi-apping well, you'd think so, but I mean after my, after my wreck when my car got totaled. I didn't do any rides for like a month on either one and I got nothing, either one of them, fuck them I hate.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's so random.
Speaker 2:It's so random how things are. It's just like the you know the good uh rate card here. I I don't know why bowling green had such a good rate card for all those years. You know we were double some places for mile. I don't know why and why they give. You know, uh, dave gets quests like that there and we don't get, don't even get an offer. It's not like they're bad quest, they're just not no quest.
Speaker 1:Well, don't? I mean, he hasn't gotten a good one in a while. So yeah, no I mean, he ain't getting those every week sure? No, I understand, but I I often wonder if they look at like I mean, they're always analyzing the data right and in school started there and maybe they weren't as happy with the amount of drivers that came out to help move those kids around and they were like, hey, man, we gotta get these fuckers out here.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean yeah, because you gotta imagine there has to be. With all the data they have, there's got to be some kind of rationale. It's just not, you know, by spinning the wheel and going okay, ann arbor michigan's getting this and right, let's see, you know, see what omaha, nebraska gets.
Speaker 1:You know, spin the wheel I think my theory might be close, because they've been back for like a week, week and a half, and maybe it just didn't hit like they were hoping it would hit from, from those, uh, from those kids.
Speaker 2:So yeah and yeah school started back here, but yeah, I think we have plenty of drivers and paying 450 to 52 of like cause.
Speaker 1:I mean, let's not, you know, scoff at a 70 is grinding. Yeah, I mean, it's not like we can do that one day You're going to be doing it all three days.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But my point is is Uber paying that out to a handful of people compared to the amount of you know revenue they get you know for? Compared to the amount of revenue they get for getting more drivers on the road to try to get it, because a lot of people aren't going to get it? A?
Speaker 2:lot of people aren't going to make it. Yeah, it's not going to be any skin off their nose.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it doesn't even matter for them.
Speaker 2:No, they're definitely coming out ahead, or they won't do it Right.
Speaker 1:Moving on, this dude got arrested. Finally, for God, did I save it. A man accused of oh yep, so this uh dude got arrested for uh showing up nude when he was accepting his door dash.
Speaker 3:So watch that and talk about it a man accused of opening his door naked to receive multiple food deliveries has been arrested. Frederick riley is charged with two counts of public indecency. Coweta County deputies say two female DoorDash drivers claim Riley opened his door without pants on. On the same night One driver reported that Riley had even asked her to step into his house. When deputies got to Riley's home, he opened the door naked again. He was taken to jail after putting on some pants, but he's since bonded out on a twelve hundred dollar bond. Download fox local for live streaming news and more no, we're not gonna.
Speaker 2:We hate you, okay, so I can I can you know if that and that's your kink and I gotta understand his. You're rash now but not looking out and seeing this, the police and then opening the door.
Speaker 1:Well, not smart, not smart, no. So, surprisingly, I think that was a TikTok I saw, was it? Yeah, so commenting. You know, I go in there and look at the comments. A lot of people are defending this guy because he was on his own property.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1:When you've ordered, food and you know they're coming to your door. Do you lose that?
Speaker 2:right. I don't know if you lose the right to it, but it's just wrong.
Speaker 1:It's just wrong to do it Well that I agree with. I'm trying to play on the other side like that. If you.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, he got arrested.
Speaker 1:So well, yeah, because he asked the girl to come in too. Like he, he stepped it up well there's no, that, yeah right, true. Yeah, I mean, if it was a man with it, would it? You know, like I I'm not defending him, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to like where where's how you are well, like I mean, I guess if you were in your own house and you were screaming, like could they arrest you for disturbing the peace, Because you know what I mean. Like obviously you have a right on your own property. But at some point if it affects someone else, it becomes an issue.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just like playing loud music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, playing loud music in my house, but there is a noise ordinance If you hit a certain, they're're gonna come shut it down yeah, yeah, but I mean to get arrested by it, but to fucking open the door with the cops there like don't you look out the window? Or maybe he's just that mentally unstable that he didn't think about it, maybe but yeah, yeah it's.
Speaker 2:It's curious that you know he did it when two female door to God.
Speaker 1:I can God I would be if my daughter had to experience that I go beat that guy's fucking ass. Yeah, pete, there's a pants ordinance. Yeah Well, guess what? I don't have any on right now. So what are you going to do? Call the cops.
Speaker 2:Bring it. Come in anytime.
Speaker 1:Slap them handcuffs on. You're gonna have to fight my never mind going downhill quick, aren't we going downhill quick?
Speaker 2:all right, here we go yeah, no, I, I get your, I I get where you're coming from, though it's your own house. You certainly have the right to to be naked in your own house and walk around um, um as soon as you open the door and somebody sees it exposing yourself like that and you, you, you know, you have, you know, basically summoned that person by ordering food to come in. Um, yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 1:I think that's because I was thinking like what if a lady was sunbathing nude and the neighbor kid was peeking in on it? Yeah, you know what I mean. Now he's the creeper right because she's in her own home you know, she didn't summon him to look at her. But what I mean? Because I'll be honest with you, I've fertilized some lawns and I've come around the corner and I've seen some stuff.
Speaker 2:You need some old guys out there.
Speaker 1:No, I've seen some ladies. I know I'm just and it's because they have headphones on and they not can't hear it. I'm like oh wow, I am so sorry. So it's like it's kind of weird. I get it because he requested them and blah, blah, blah yeah, I think that adds uh something on there.
Speaker 2:Hey, gabe, what's up? Um, yeah, I'm sure there's got to be. Uh, there's got to be.
Speaker 1:That's got to be factored in somehow well, right, I mean obviously you're doing well. I can't say obviously, because he also opened the door with the cops were there. So maybe that's what he does, maybe, although asking the girl to come in like that's that yeah, that's definitely way over the line. That's some intent there, bro.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wonder if it was flaccid, got him.
Speaker 2:Anyways. Well you go ahead and wonder about that. That didn't even cross my mind. Can we do, weibo?
Speaker 1:in the news. Can we get off this guy's wiener?
Speaker 3:Moving on Waymo in the news. Let's do it.
Speaker 1:All right, this is a guy that I can't blame. Waymo this guy just went ape shit on a Waymo oh yeah, we're not muted. Kicks the door, kicks the door Kicks. Oh yeah, we're not muted. Kicks the door, kicks the door, kicks the door again. Waymo tries to leave yeah, and he rips the mirror off straight off, oh yeah, which which I did read.
Speaker 2:One of the one of the commenters had a good point like why are there side view mirrors on the waymo?
Speaker 1:that's. It's a good point right, I mean I think it's probably more expensive to not have them on there, because they come off the factory line like that. I mean, maybe I don't know, yeah, maybe the guy's fucked up, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I mean, it wouldn't stop anything if the mirror wasn't there. He, he would just, you know, break the window or kick the, you know dent the door or something. It's not going to stop any of this. But you know a lot of good comments on there, like what if you're, what if there's a passenger in the car and they're in there going, you know, going through this traumatic experience? Uh, surely waymo could, could drive off.
Speaker 1:Well, if you saw the video. They tried to go, but then they stopped. I don't know if he backed off enough to kick and they're like, okay, we're clear. And then he came up again and then the software is like oh, there's somebody close. Yeah, um, yeah, yeah, I don't did it say anything about like why he was frustrated with waymo, or he's just just a drunk fucker? What?
Speaker 2:no, just I think somebody's having a, uh, you know, mental health, uh, experience. Um, yeah, I didn't say anything. Uh, you know the way Mo hadn't, hadn't, you know, run over his foot or anything you know. Uh, yeah, just somebody, and the, and the thing is that you know, they mentioned in the comments too is the way Moser, they, they stand out so much, you know, in the crowd, so crowd so it, you know, it's just like a beacon for people who want to take out the frustration.
Speaker 1:They know nobody's in the car honestly, that's such a good point, larry, like we talked about the tesla model y's that are doing the robo taxis they look like just a normal tesla right, yeah, you're not gonna know unless you know. I mean it does say doesn't it say robo taxi likei in a cursive at the bottom?
Speaker 2:That's true, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I mean, it's not odd, I'm assuming that'll leave it on there.
Speaker 2:It's not out there like this giant white Waymo. You know it instantly when you see these Waymo cars. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1:What happens if your Waymo starts getting attacked and the car can't go because it doesn't want to run someone over a crash? What do they do, I mean?
Speaker 2:obviously the doors are locked um yeah, and apparently go ahead I would say if somebody breaks the window, at that point you just bail out yeah, uh, apparently somebody was mentioned in the comments that there was a incident that happened where a guy stepped in front of the waymo with a gun. Of course the waymo stops and he shot the some of the person in the car. I'm going to follow up on that and see if that's really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm gonna see if that's if I can find anything I don't know, we would have seen that that would have been all over.
Speaker 2:You would think so.
Speaker 1:You would think so um, although that headbutt I saw it a few times, but I didn't see a lot of discussion about it. So maybe sometimes that stuff slips through the cracks. Well, maybe they, I don't know. Yeah, if there was a human I could at least floor it. Well, I often wonder if, when some of that stuff is happening, does a human person take over and go? Okay, what is going on? But there's no way they're going to get authorized to flatten somebody. That's just vandalizing the car. You know what I mean? Everything happens so quick.
Speaker 1:I don't think right, yeah, no, they can't do that sorry, you're freezing up yeah, I think it's my we need to get you some better internet telling you, man, something's going on it's been a rough month of uh of connection with you I don't know why I don't either. I don't nothing's really changed, but yeah, um, so did you find anything on that, or not?
Speaker 2:well, uh, I mean, um, you know, the first thing it pulls up is, uh, something that happened in let me see the date on it june 23rd. Two juveniles in a way mo got shot. Yeah, the guy set spook was on foot. He, when he fired multiple rounds into the autonomous vehicle, uh, victims, both juveniles suffered injuries that were non-threatening. One was shot in the arm, another was shot in the torso so the guy was a bad shot at that.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, he hit him. I mean I guess, uh gabe says it's kentucky, their internet stinks and apparently their amazon conveyor belts. Well, they probably, the internet probably went down at amazon.
Speaker 2:That was the trouble they're diverting all the energy to the conveyor belt, probably for sure all right, moving on, uh, octopus tablet.
Speaker 1:This is something that we would really love for you to get. Um, obviously, we make a little commission when you uh sign up, but, uh, we we're supporters of this. We've talked about it for years and years and I used to have it when I did ride share. Larry still has it. It's basically a tablet that everything's free the holder, the charger, all that stuff. Your passengers can play trivia, they can play games, they can look at news, all that fun stuff. You earn a little bit of residual income for them playing the games and then for the ads that show up on it. Um, so I recommend getting it. The link is in the description for that. If you're a ride to your driver, why wouldn't you get it?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's basically free money. Put it in there, you don't have to worry about it, anything breaks. They send you new stuff, new tablet, new charging cable, whatever and they update it all the time and passengers love it, especially when they're drunk. They want to play trivia, test each other's knowledge, think they're so smart, and then they they're like we're doing so good, and then I get like four and they're like no, you're a fucking loser, now shut up. My score is like 35 oh drunk people I gotta love it.
Speaker 1:All right, Larry, I can't believe I'm saying this, but you can rent a pool truck this month.
Speaker 2:Yes, and as the ad said, it's exactly what it sounds like. So the picture shows a Uber truck, shows a truck, and I guess they're partnering with Turo on this. So, basically the back of the truck. The bed is decked out like a pool. It's got like wooden railing around it like a little deck would be.
Speaker 2:And then it's filled with water. It got a little floaty in there and everything. So you know this is just a promotion thing. So it's a new partnership between Uber and Turo that allows you to rent a Turo directly in the Uber app.
Speaker 1:Oh geez, no kidding.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you're going to be able to rent Turo cars through Uber. Uh, so, another collaboration for Uber. Um, so they're teaming up to have a what's called a pool truck experience, which is a fully functional mini pool built into the bed of pickup. Um, I, I've seen these before around here. You have not not with Uber, but I've seen, I've seen just people will put a like a tarp in the bed of their truck and fill it with water in the summer, and yeah, yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 1:Have you ever seen it downtown Like for a party thing, like have they done it there? I mean, I don't know, the cops wouldn't, wouldn't allow that, would they?
Speaker 2:uh and no, and I mean now in nashville there is a one of the party buses has a hot tub in the back. Okay, like a person hot tub, all right, um. So it says, yeah, this pool pool truck experience is going to be available in los angeles at the santa monica pier. Well, that was last week, so, uh, never mind that one. It's going to be in Miami at Bayside Market August 30th and 31st. So what you do? You reserve it in the Uber app and it costs you zero. Oh really.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's very limited spots. So if you're able to be one of the people who are able to book it you and your crew of people, however many you have you get two hours of personal poolside time. Uh, you get refreshing popsicles, summer tunes, a take-home essentials kit stocked with sunscreen floaties, tote bags uh, you have a dedicated pool boy to handle the setup and make sure wow vibes are just right. And you also score a to $300 toward your next Turo rental on Uber rent. So don't expect to cruise the freeway though, with water sloshing around.
Speaker 2:The trucks are going to be parked so the pool stays put. Uber's also covering your ride to and from the experience. So, yeah, if you manage to get in, you don't have to pay anything. They're going to come send you a car to pick you up, take you back home. They're going to provide some sunscreen floaty stuff like that. One of the people who was on Love Island is going to be kind of host, so expect swags, popsicles and early peek at the pool truck. So it says. If you're not in LA or Miami, you can still get on the fun. Uber users nationwide can browse a special collection of Turo's hottest rentals inside the app and snag a $25 off booking of $100 or more through September 1st.
Speaker 1:What I don't understand is why they're partnering with Turo. Wouldn't you want people to use your business? You know what I'm saying? Like take an Uber instead of renting a Turo.
Speaker 2:It seems a little bit like partnering with your competition, but I think they realize there's going to be people who are going to want to rent a car when they're on a trip or something for a week. They're not going to want to take. There's people who just don't want to worry about that rent and getting a ride every time they go somewhere it's uh, but even that, then I would go to the turo app.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna go to uber like, I feel like it's just putting that in front of their face so that they think about it instead of like and and maybe they're, you know, uh, you know they're they get a click for it or something. I don't know, because I wouldn't.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know unless it's like fucking seamless well, maybe it's a bad idea, maybe it's, you know, maybe it was the same person who changed the cracker barrel signs oh my gosh, people are losing their mind about that well, they changed it back, so everybody's happy.
Speaker 1:Now uncle herschel is back uh see, pete says also having partners like that help subsidize their app development. So yeah, I mean for sure, I'm sure it does, but I mean uber's not hurting for money, you know what?
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 1:So it's like having to subsidize. This seems like it's a weird thing.
Speaker 2:But I mean, they want to be the all-in-one app. Yes, sure, they've already talked about it. They want you to be able to buy your train ticket or your bus ticket on there, which would seem like why would they do that? You're taking away people who could potentially be an Uber passenger. They want to be eventually a one-stop app for all your transportation needs to get food, to get a ride, to ride the bus, to rent a car.
Speaker 1:You know they just want to be a law on one app I mean, I get that and they you know they make money on the transaction too, so like that's part of it. Just like facebook, they want to keep you in the app and you know they they probably get a little money in their ecosystem yeah, you, probably. They probably get a little money each time someone books something on there, clicks on it and yeah I get the idea like wanting to keep everyone in there.
Speaker 1:It just seems a little counterintuitive. Uh hey, rent a car instead of taking one of ours.
Speaker 2:So and I'm sure they'll test it out if they, you know, doesn't seem like it's working for him.
Speaker 1:He says uber only had a net income of six billion. They need more. Yeah, I mean they need to be like amazon, they need to be like 175 billion or trillion or whatever the fuck it is. I don't even know at this point. Yeah, um, but yeah, uh, I, I like the little promo thing on that. I I think that's kind of cool. I was just kind of like racking my brain. I'm like it seems like counterintuitive. But last up, just kind of a recap about the Tesla's Robotaxi. You know, larry talked about it a little bit and so it's just kind of going over how things have gone for it and what they're thinking about. You know the future and stuff. But one of the comments I kind of thought was funny. It says they reassured on the second court earnings call that the robo taxis in Austin have logged over 7,000 miles without major safety incidents. And I'm like 7,000, you say oh wow yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I did that in two months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not a lot to brag about, yeah, I just thought it was funny.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, it's just like we said. Oh, another thing too. I think we talked about this at some point New vehicles can now drive themselves off the assembly line with direct to customer autonomous deliveries planned by year end and select reasons.
Speaker 2:I gotta admit that's freaking cool yeah, and they did the first one. They did the first one already yeah, uh, pete says stream crash.
Speaker 1:He said Facebook stream died. I don't give a shit. They uh God damn it. Now I've fucking lost my train of thought Um yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're talking about the uh, yeah, tesla being able to roll in right off. And yeah, that that I mean just it. It just, just it, just it's cool, you know, it just sounds cool when you think about it. It's just so, uh, far removed from you know anything that we've had before in life, uh, and to be able to say that, yeah, you know, my card came off the delivery came off the semi-lawn and drove itself here.
Speaker 1:Now, that's, that's, that's pretty cool yeah, it is as much as like as people say that Teslas are really uncomfortable. I really do like the tech. I am a techie and we shit on Elon and Tesla and stuff and not even political-wise. He's just kind of a douche canoe in general, but I really do love the tech. I think it's fucking amazing.
Speaker 2:No doubt.
Speaker 1:And I hope at some point I will be able to afford a Tesla, I guess a brand new one. But I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Speaker 2:That would be sweet All right?
Speaker 1:Well, apparently Larry's internet came over to mine and it died on Facebook, so that doesn't matter. Anyways, we're wrapping up. We want you to see you on the Patreon, patreoncom slash, the gig econ podcast. There you can sign up for a seven day free trial and at 8, 10 pm, which is in 10 minutes, larry and I will be going live on the Patreon. And although or let's see no tier numbers, oh yeah, now it says we're having trouble streaming to Facebook. It may be an issue on facebook's end. Yeah, that's right, you fucker um, go ahead and sign up on zuckerberg get your shit yeah, all encompassing app.
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