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Wild Week for Gig Workers: DoorDash Arrest, Uber’s New Safety Tools, Amazon Flex Chaos & Waymo Woes | Ep 278
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A viral claim collapses, a van gets swiped in broad daylight, and a driverless car freezes in an alley—welcome to a week where gig work shows its sharp edges. We open with a wild “clip of the week” from a Spark delivery, then unpack the fallout from the DoorDash creator whose videos led to felony charges after she filmed a customer nude and posted his information online. What counts as evidence, what crosses the line, and how do you protect yourself without chasing clicks?
From there, we dive into safety in the field: the naked stranger who climbed into a delivery van and crashed it, the simple habits that would have stopped it, and the broader need for situational awareness when you’re juggling keys, phones, and doorsteps. We balance the chaos with practical wins—Octopus tablets for passive tips and engagement, plus why riders should always compare Uber and Lyft before booking. If 84 percent never check both apps, that’s money left on the table and drivers feeling the squeeze.
Policy and tech loom over it all. New Zealand’s top court just said several Uber drivers are employees, opening the door to benefits and back pay claims. Meanwhile, autonomy meets reality: Lyft’s CEO doubts self‑driving will dominate soon, even as Waymo expands to freeways while still stumbling in tight urban maneuvers. We talk costs, liability, cleaning fleets, and why geofenced pilots will coexist with human drivers for years. Add a fresh DoorDash data leak and the rise of retail partnerships like Old Navy delivery, and you can see the next phase of gig work: more services, more risk, more need for clear rules.
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Hello, hello. Welcome to the Gig Economy Podcast, episode two hundred and seventy-eight. Uh talking about Doordash, Arrest, Uber Zoom Safety Tools, Amazon Flex Chaos, and Waymo Woes, which is always Waymo Woes for sure. Go to gigeconomy show.com for everything gig economy podcast related. And I want to thank our Patreon members. Jim from Connecticut, Miguel from GR, Linda from Tampa, Jerry Gillette from Kentucky, Faith from Las Vegas, Metal Kickass from Louisiana, and Anna from New York City. You can go to patreon.com/slash the gig econ podcast. There you can sign up for uh any kind of tier you want. We got three tiers there. And there's a seven-day free trial if you want to try it out. Uh listen to some of the shows. Uh, and uh if you don't like it, then you can cancel. Otherwise, just let it roll over and you're good to go. Um, Larry, Telegram group. This is uh it's exciting tonight because we have a clip of the week. Thank you, Faith. You fucking rock.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so our telegram group's how we communicate for the most part. It's like a chat uh app, but you can also instead of just texting, you can also do video voice messages. So when you're out driving, sometimes it's inconvenient to try to text uh and drive, but it's really easy to do a voice message uh or uh sometimes, like I said, a video message. Uh you can talk to gig workers all the world, people who know what you're going through, know the struggles that you deal with. And we talk about what apps are happening, any new ones that are coming on, what's going on in the gig world. And uh a lot of times we're just shooting on debris and talking about life and uh um talk about a little bit of everything, as you'll hear, and we're talking about in our clip of the week.
SPEAKER_03:And the clip did I have a did I have a did I have a stinger for that?
SPEAKER_04:I don't think so.
SPEAKER_03:I thought I did.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe you do. We'll see. It's not on my board. Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. I think go ahead. You uh I thought for sure I saw it.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, that was when I I actually had loaded it clip of the week. So that wasn't it. Um so, anyways, this clip of the week uh comes with a picture, and sorry, there are so many fucking stream yard, as you can see, we're we're streaming horizontal and vertical, and they've added so many things. Okay, here we go. So this one comes with a picture. Uh I'm gonna play it, and then uh we're gonna talk about this. Uh so yeah, here's here's the clip of the week.
SPEAKER_01:Should be buying their own self-love and not having us poor sparkers going to buy this, and having to have an associate open the counter, and then putting it in a box, and then when you get to the register, they have to unlock the box. They should go get it themselves, these horny bastards.
SPEAKER_03:Them horny bastards, them horny bastards.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, it's always them, them horny bastards.
SPEAKER_03:So our uh fan uh Bubba Sue and uh super supporter uh had to deliver this for Spark, and and Larry, you know, he said, Hey, what's what's a pleasure air rose? And I'm like, you know, Larry, I don't know. I I see intensity levels, so I'm assuming it's some sort of vibrator, but I also think it might be a pocket, you know what. So yeah, I'm not exactly sure.
SPEAKER_04:Well, here's what here's what it said when I looked it up. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03:I'm glad you looked it up on your computer.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I don't care. Uh it's a it's a a toy that offers general air vibrations that mimic sucking and massaging sensations for intensified pleasure and enhanced solo play designed to recreate the feel of oral sex. The rose suction vibrator delivers delivers blissful sensations whenever you crave them.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so need a little bit more clarification. Is this for women or men? Well, I mean, we're not judging if uh if the other gender uses it, but uh Baba Sue says women.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. And they says uh Love Honey Pleasure Arrows Clitorial Suction Stimulator.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, there we go. That I I missed that that last part of the clitoral part that really makes sense.
SPEAKER_04:But yeah, it's my it's it's back in weirding. Yeah, it says it's clutorial suction stimulator. Gotcha, gotcha.
SPEAKER_03:Um, yeah, so uh I've never had to deliver anything like that, and there's no judgment. I don't know. I just thought Bubba Sue's message was was very funny, and Faith sent that my way. So um, those are the kind of messages you get in the telegram group. Sometimes some helpful tips as well, but sometimes some funny shit. So that's true. So you got any stories from the road? I don't have anything, I haven't done any gig work.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, no, I was out Saturday. It was Western Kentucky University's last football game, last home football game of the year. We we still got a couple away games. Uh so I did go out, it was pretty busy. Um, always is taking people to Tailgate and then taking people back from Tailgate when they've had too much. Um, so I stayed out till excuse me, about dinner time that night and then came home, had dinner, and stayed home for the rest of the night.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, you gotta throw up?
SPEAKER_04:No, I'm just uh had a burp though.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, okay, so no stories or anything. I I I really didn't do any gig work either. I I starting to feel like Jesper, um, honestly, just due to the fact that uh I haven't God, it's been a bit, probably I mean, I think I did something in the beginning of November. So I I'm not I'm not a month old. So we we talked about recently with the um that girl that went viral that said she was sexually assaulted, and um we I mean we talked about it at nauseum, you know what I mean? And basically the gist, if you don't know, she said she went to go deliver food and the door was wide open, and then she saw his genitals out like he was like cashed out on the couch, and but she decided to take a video about it, but like of it, and then claimed that she was sexually assaulted, and um it kind of came out that it was not that, and she actually opened the door because it wasn't open all the way because the ring camera caught it. Um she actually opened or opened the door, videotaped it, and posted it to TikTok. So this is a story about that. Uh, just to follow up, because you know, it was about a month ago, and um yeah, this is uh this is kind of the update on it.
SPEAKER_00:Olivia Henderson, aka DoorDash girl, was arrested today and charged with two felony charges. And honestly, I'm not surprised by this. You cannot record somebody naked in their own home and then post it online for other people to see. And on top of that, she was profiting off the videos that she posted. And for all the people that were saying the only reason she recorded it is so that she can have evidence. That made no sense. It made no sense because she posted the videos online. Maybe if she recorded it and send it to the authorities, that might have helped her out. But once she posted that man's uh body parts on the internet as well as his full name and his address, she messed up. Uh-huh. Which I said in my previous videos. So, yeah, now she has two felony charges and a court date coming up. Olivia Anderson, aka DoorDash girl, just got arrested.
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SPEAKER_00:But even with this new information coming out, some of y'all are still gonna try to spin it and say that she was the victim.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I the spinning is always gonna happen, right? And and sexual someone getting sexually assaulted is is definitely like a real like uh it's a rough thing, right? You know, you don't wanna you don't wanna victim shame people that are claiming that they are sexually assaulted. But when the evidence comes out is that that she wasn't, and she was the one that um you know recorded the video and opened the door and all that other stuff, uh you you know, you're kinda at the point where like, well, you're you're not really a victim. You're you're you're kind of the perpetrator at this point. Not even kinda. You are definitely the perpetrator. Yeah, I would expect some level of privacy. Like, okay, he had his junk out, but like I can't say his house.
SPEAKER_04:I know he was in his own house.
SPEAKER_03:I know, and then I can't say I ever did I've never done that, so I don't know, but you know, it's still his house, and even if the door wasn't all the way open and she pushed it, like there's a level of privacy there. Yeah, and it said leave at the door.
SPEAKER_04:So I don't and and and regardless of any of that, she posted it online. Yeah, I mean that that that that went way that's way over the line. Yeah, like she was claiming she needed it for evidence. Well, you don't have to post it online if you need it for evidence. Exactly. You're obviously trying to get views.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and we talked when that we talked about that originally, that that was the biggest problem with it is like, why are you posting it to the internet? Right. So she's a piece of shit. I hope she gets fry I I mean, I hope something terrible happens to her. Uh not terrible, but like I hope she goes gets, you know, I hope she doesn't get a slap on the wrist, I guess what I'm saying. I hope it's a little bit more than that. So um yeah, so that was fun. It sounds like sorry. Uh okay. Uh so we talked about I just did a TikTok about it and like uh about what the women only feature and like are you guys offended about that or the lawsuit that was going on that these guys were suing. And some people were like, some guy was like, I think they should get I think they should win the lawsuit, and I also think women should have the right to do it. I was like, wait a minute. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I I mean like you either I I don't know. I wasn't expecting that response to some of them, but um whatever. I guess if if that's what works for you. Um but Nashville has expanded this and and and other US cities. I had thought this was kind of like a thing. Uh is it is it where you were? Or do well, you wouldn't know. You're not a a woman, so it wouldn't it wouldn't matter. Um I just thought this was already a nationwide thing, but no, they're still rolling it out. Um quite a few cities now. It says uh to Nashville and 25 other cities, so it doesn't really list uh the other ones, but again, I think it's great. I think it's it's something that uh I think is important as guys are douchebags, especially the guy that just joined the chat, the real Josh 05. Although he said, What's up, Jason and Larry? He definitely is uh a predator. Um so yeah, I think it's great. Uh I'm glad they're doing it and they should roll it out everywhere. Um welcome, Josh. Yeah, we uh we we were having some internet issues, so I think Larry's back, but boy, that was rough at the beginning. Yep. Um okay, so I'm just gonna that was quick and easy. So Larry will jump into your video, which Jason's stupid. He wrote Amazon Flex, or it says Amazon Flex, but it doesn't tell me what the video's about. So I know which video it is. You want me to play it? Yeah, sure. You want to set it up and go?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so uh here. This is a strange video. Oh, is this the naked lady one? Yes, yeah, so we'll play it. Weird. This is really weird. We'll play it and then we'll discuss it. But yeah, yeah, pretty crazy. All right. Okay, for the for the audio listeners, this is uh this was uh I said Amazon uh delivery. It did it wasn't an Amazon band.
SPEAKER_03:I guess it was a you know it could be it could have been just a rental.
SPEAKER_04:They use a lot of rentals. So so guy pulls up, and uh as he's pulling up, there's a there's a lady that's probably the customer owner of the house is staying out there, and then this this other black lady just walks by with no clothes on and walks up to his van and he gets out, and and I don't understand why he just got out and and he kind of just lets her get in his van. He climbs she climbs in the van, and then next thing you know, she takes off and he's screaming because she takes off, and you can hear it at the end, she wrecks, and it sounds bad.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I didn't watch it all the way through, so my my expression was like, Oh, it was so loud in my head.
SPEAKER_04:It was very loud, yeah. Yeah, she wrecked it, and and uh but yeah, some of the comments were like, Yeah, dude, why why you why didn't you not lock your door? She's standing right there. You can tell she's trying to get in your van. What are you doing? You know, why would you not lock your door?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like he just got out like nonchalant, like, oh hey, how's it going? Dude, I thought chuck's naked, like rolling the window up.
SPEAKER_04:And she's obviously on drugs or having a uh mental health issue because just the way she's walking, yeah, you know, you can kind of tell uh something's going on there, yeah. Uh which which is sad. Um and then takes off.
SPEAKER_03:Oh no, my phone's in there. Yeah, what the fuck were you gonna scan the package? Like you had to bring it. Oh my god, there's so many several things. And then he was just like, Oh no. Yeah, yeah. He's like, and then he's like, Did you record all that?
SPEAKER_04:And she's like, Yeah, I did. And he's like, Thank goodness.
SPEAKER_03:What's wild on these cameras? There's so many different styles of cameras, and like that one, that the video wasn't super great, uh, but the audio was incredible, you know what I mean? Like we could pick up and that's why that crash was so loud in my ear.
SPEAKER_04:I was like, Yeah, if you didn't listen to it all the way through the first time, you missed that because it's it's toward the end. But uh, yeah, she definitely hit something pretty pretty solid.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that van that van's fucked up. Good thing it's a rental, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:But yeah, I you I don't understand. You know, you wonder what's going on. You don't know if it just caught him by surprise. Uh, but I mean, he saw her walking up. It wasn't like she popped up all of a sudden, you know. She's she's walking through the yard and walks up to the van. I see I see a woman who's obviously having issues. I think I'm gonna lock the door, um or something. You know, I'm not gonna let her just get in the van or take my keys out or something. Yeah, I'm not gonna leave keys in.
SPEAKER_03:Some people don't have that that that it's not street smarts, but just like that real life common sense. Like, don't aren't you getting a weird feeling inside, like, yeah, you're having situational awareness, you know. Yeah, this is normal. We're gonna keep the window, like she just nonchalant walked up and he opened the door, and he stepped out, and she was it it was like it was like she was uh replacing him for the day.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, she was yeah, he was tagging out and she was getting in.
SPEAKER_03:That's exactly what it felt like.
SPEAKER_04:So yeah, then it's well I like one of the comments that was that down below the story like oh any dude's gonna let a naked woman in his van. No, no, no, no, I'm like, no, that is not true.
SPEAKER_03:Not in broad daylight, someone that you don't know. So someone that's obviously having issues. D says Jason is saying some people are stupid. Yeah, that's that's the gist of it. I'm trying to figure out like, you know, is it common sense, is it street smart or whatever? No, that that guy was just stupid.
SPEAKER_04:So hey, what's up, Steve? Yes, Steve.
SPEAKER_03:Uh all right, next up, this is another Amaz, this is Amazon Flex Heavy or Amazon in general. Uh so this guy is delivering and he's got like a motorbike in a in a trailer. So here we go.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know, dude. Uh, I would love I would do that in a heartbeat, man. As long as the you know, you know the weather's gonna be good.
SPEAKER_03:Well, obviously it's in Arizona or Vegas, somewhere it doesn't rain ever. Right, right.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you'd be being you'd be up a creek if it starts raining. You got all its packages and this opening.
SPEAKER_03:I'm surprised I'm surprised they let them do that though.
SPEAKER_04:They don't care as long as long as they're getting delivered. Why why why do they care?
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I don't think you uh have to um uh I did I'm trying to think if you have to put your car on Amazon Flex. I don't think you do. So maybe they don't really care because I mean I've seen people show up in a U-Haul and like a big old box.
SPEAKER_04:A U-Haul?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I mean, if you think about it, you rent it for$20 a day. If you can do two routes, you gotta pay for mileage too. So I don't know how much the mileage is, but um it's not the best way to do it, obviously, because you gotta pay for gas mileage in the 20 bucks a day. But yeah, why don't you just use your own vehicle? I mean, they clearly don't have one because why would you rent the U-Hall? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, if you gotta get it done, you gotta get it done. But um, yeah, I mean, so you would like that? Oh, I would love that, man. I love riding motorcycles. Okay, so did you ride motorcycles before?
SPEAKER_04:That's the very first vehicle I bought, man. Right. Basic training was a motorcycle. I didn't even own a car for like two, three years. All I had was a motorcycle, rode it rain, shine, snow, whatever. Really? That's all I had.
SPEAKER_03:That's amazing. Oh, I didn't know that. Or maybe if you told me that. That's awesome. Yeah. No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a I've never ridden on a motorcycle. I don't know, but uh love it, man. Yeah, it I I bet it can be fun at times for sure. Yeah, yeah, just gotta be careful. Yeah, as always. Uh, New Zealand. I uh speaking of New Zealand, I haven't talked to Janet in a hot second, but uh uh the top court rules that Uber drivers are employees. So I know she had talked in the last year about something like this, and I wonder if it's just uh follow-up on it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, um you know I I think it was something they were discussing, but I think they finally made a ruling on it. Um uh according to the story. I I guess there's four rideshare drivers uh who had filed uh filed a case through their union, I guess through two unions. Okay. Um so our you know, as always, you know, Uber said that argued that the the drivers were independent contractors, you know, they're using it as the Uber platform, but they weren't employees. Um but the the Supreme Court um in New Zealand ruled that uh you know they are to be considered employees, so this implications of this decision could be far-reaching, um, you know, as far as uh giving them the right to pursue full employment rights, such as restitution for historic underpayment of wages, um, you know, things like sick leave, all those kind of things that you get as an employee. Uh of course Uber's saying right now this decision only relates to these four drivers and delivery partners, uh, and Uber and Uber East will continue to operate as normal, which is weird. So I guess I guess right now it's just it just concerns these four. That's the way that the article states it. Um I I don't understand that's weird how yeah, how that's gonna work. Um yeah. So anyway, um the court said that uh you know Uber had uh earlier uh you know appealed the the first court's ruling and they ejected Uber's uh appeal in this decision. Uh the judge noted that you know whether somebody qualifies as an employee or not is is becoming ever more you know important in the world with the fragmentation of jobs and the globalization of work and and just how work is broken down uh these days and so much gig work going on.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I wonder why there's only four. Like, is that the only four people in the union? I mean, I guess it it doesn't matter. Two people you can create a union, you just need more than one. Um it just seems odd that it would they would only it would only apply to those four people.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that that's very strange. Um so yeah, might have to try to follow up a little more on that and see uh see what happens from there.
SPEAKER_03:I um speaking of union, I did email, I finally got a hold of that Tennessee union. Uh-huh. Uh I somehow connected to them on Instagram. That was the place I messaged them.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:And then I finally got around to emailing them and I haven't heard anything from them.
SPEAKER_04:So like I said, I've called I've contacted them half a day.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they responded back. I was like, hey, I'd love to have you in the show on Instagram, and they're like, Yeah, we'd love to come on. I was like, Cool, can you just shoot me an email because that's easier to communicate? I'm not in on Instagram very much, and I don't have any push notifications. They're like, Yeah, here's the email. And so I sent it along, and then it's been cricket. So um I'll have to email them one more time. I'm not gonna, I mean, for for a place that's trying to get the word out, like fucking respond back to me. I mean, I'm I'm giving you a platform, well, although not the biggest platform, obviously, but a platform to talk about it and and give you a fair shake of everything.
SPEAKER_04:We're not gonna platform that is right in their you know, in their niche.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. And we're not gonna roast your ass, you know. We're we're gonna give it a fair shake, just like anything. And yeah, not returning my email. I'm just like maybe it went to spam. I don't know. We're a spammy kind of company, so yeah. Not really. All right, I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_04:You're trying to contact you about your car warranty.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, right. That's hilarious. Um, so this next article, god, this browser is just on the struggle bus for me. Uh, maybe it is my internet, although you once you rebooted, it was fine. Hang on a second. Okay, here we go. Uh now I'm clicking ads in the fucking article, so that's always a good sign popping up. Uh lift, uh, there is zero likelihood of self-driving cars will replace human drivers in any reasonable time frame. Uh, our boy David Richher talks about. Um, so it was funny because we talked uh God, I don't know. It just feels like when we're on the Waymo talk, it's like it's coming soon. Like they're talking, and then now we're talking about this uh with with Lyft saying it's not, although he has partnered with some autonomous things. So right. Um he says this is the that the rollout of the self-driving is gonna be really slow, and he'd be surprised if 10% of Lyft's business came from self-driving vehicles in 2030, which I I feel that that's valid. I mean, that's five years. I mean, almost four years, really, because 235 is almost done. Yeah, um, this is where it gets a little weird. He says he thinks most people are wary of self-driving cars and prefer a human at the wheel. Customers won't demand it, they'll just say, I don't want to get in a self-driving car. Um, and then furthermore, the economics of self-driving are less appealing than most people think. At the first glance, getting rid of all your drivers, like an opportunity for ride hailing apps to reduce costs while having a fleet of cars can be really expensive, obviously. Um, and then he talked about, you know, two like you've talked about Larry,$250 to$300,000 for a car. Right.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and that's the big thing that I don't, you know, it's hard to figure out how they're gonna get around that because they've you know, all these years they haven't had to own cars and vehicles and worry about cleaning them and yeah, and fuel and and all that kind of stuff. You know, that's been on the drivers. And if they're gonna have these self-driving cars, obviously that's gonna be on them to do.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean, we've we've talked about it since the beginning that a company, big company like that is not in the business of or of owning fleets. It would just kill them. I mean, it's so expensive. Like we know as as gig workers how expensive it is.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah, you you can you can run it, you know, you can go through a car pretty quick.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, especially if you're working full time. I mean, game.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, uh well, well, Waymo car can work, you know, pretty much you know, what, 20 hours a day? Or yeah, yeah, for sure and they're not charging.
SPEAKER_03:He also said something of like, well, when people are sleeping, those cars are just gonna be dead there, rusting, blah, blah, blah. I mean, he was a little dramatic when he's talking about the rust and like it's not gonna be you. Maybe from like 4A to 6A might be a little slow, but right, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Cause even I mean, even here in Bowling Green, it it's funny because people ask me all the time, you know, how late do you stay out? And I'm like, Yeah, you know, Saturdays, uh, but yeah, I'm usually a lot of times I'm out until 3 30 in the morning. Like, oh my god, who's out at 3 30 in the morning? Dude, there's there's there's people, you know, there's always people moving and needing to get somewhere, whether it's you know, college kids going coming home from house parties or are uh you know trying to get back to their dorm from somewhere. You know, it's not just bars, you know, bars are closed at two, but there's there's still other things going on.
SPEAKER_03:Well, think about the the states or cities that the bars are closed at four.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, it's it's you're you're closing at four, and depending in the summertime, the sun's starting to crack up and like 90 minutes later. Like, yeah, I I don't think they're gonna be sitting around as much as he thinks, but I am surprised how much he really kind of was bashing them though, because yeah, he's like completely on the other side from Uber and and you know, uh from from Dara and and and uh Elon, you know, it's they're coming, it's coming fast, you know.
SPEAKER_04:We're gonna be doing all these rides in the next year. And of course, Elon's always like that with whatever working, so you know, you kind of overlook him, and he's kind of the outlier, but uh yeah, very different takes on it as far as from Uber and Lyft.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I feel like he's just kind of flipped the script because you know, we talked about partnering, I can't remember which company, but maybe he had his like because then they just have their third quarter uh earnings report, and they're like, yo, like you need to stop talking about like let's not get on the autonomous train, let's talk about how it's gonna take a while to get you know here and stuff like that, because you're gonna be hurting our stock. As you had said that the stock was creeping up a little bit, but um so yeah, I don't know, it's interesting. I feel like they're kind of talking out both sides of their mouth, but Uber's like full steam ahead on Autonomous. Definitely. I mean, they they even a couple years ago didn't they make that claim of you know we're gonna be like uh electric cars, uh at least electric cars by 2030. And then I don't know what they made the claim about Waymo, but yeah, um yeah, Tesla Boy is getting a thing.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, he does. He oh well yeah, he said enough with the Elon slander. Yeah, he didn't, I'm just I'm just pointing out, and you have to agree that the man will say stuff's coming out when he knows for damn well it ain't coming out.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, what did we we talked about God that we talked about so much a couple months ago, but we did talk about didn't he claim something like five years ago was gonna be out and it still had sure he did, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I mean I I admire the guy for for a lot of things that he does, but uh you can't trust his timelines.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no, you can't yeah, timelines not a good thing. So uh all right, yeah. Waymo in the news. The Waymo woes, the Waymo woes. So we got a video and then a um just briefly article. Oh my god, I gotta spend some time in here to find all my shit. Uh okay. So this is a Waymo uh trying to back up out of an alley, looks like.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, we're not gonna watch that whole thing. Um, unless it something happens at the end that I don't see. Why is our mic muted? Why is our fucking mic's muted? Okay, unmute. You gotta do it yourself. What the fuck just happened?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know. I didn't mute it. I didn't I never clicked on anything.
SPEAKER_03:No, I didn't either. I was trying to unmute oh yeah. Yeah, because I think this is this new software that's the bugs. Cause I was cause normally during sound videos they mute us, you know what I mean? But I stopped playing it. But anyways, yeah. Um so yeah, did it did anything happen at the end of that video?
SPEAKER_04:Or just well, I don't know. Right when it cut off, you he you could see he was backing up toward that truck, and he like ain't it looks like he like turns toward the truck.
SPEAKER_03:I should have played the whole thing.
SPEAKER_04:Um I think there was somebody maybe walking on the other side of the other side of the sidewalk or something across the street from what I read in the comments. Yeah. Um but yeah, I mean, to be fair, I know a lot of people who would who would have trouble backing up like that. I'm not I think we would be fine, but I know some people who would that would that would be horrible for them to try to back up like that.
SPEAKER_03:The limited vision that we had, I honestly would have tried to probably done a 10-point turn. Yeah, just really quick. And just because we got, you know, at least in my car, it's it has it does a front camera and a back camera. So I can get really fucking close to anything and not hit it. And I think I would have done that instead of just like you know, gone straight out, you know, back like that. Um, what do you think about I noticed not now the Waymo, it beeps when it backs up, like our buses do, which is fine. Right. But I have noticed there was a car or a truck somewhere that was newer um that was doing that had that too. Now I don't know if he added it or if they're adding that to backup beep sound. Yeah, I what do you think about that in a regular car? I'm fine with it. As long as it's not super obnoxious. Right.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I think it's fine.
SPEAKER_03:I I think it is too. I think it to adding that safety level.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, our buddy and yeah, let everybody know that you know this is that that you're you're you're backing up.
SPEAKER_03:If you're if you're standing behind a bus, not the one backing up, like if I'm doing my light check and I'm right there and the bus behind me puts it in reverse, yeah, it's ear piercing. Like I'm like closing it until she moves back a little bit so it clears my path. But yeah, the the bus ones are really freaking loud. Oh, I'm sure, yeah. I'm sure. Um, and then also it looks like they added highway driving in San Francisco. Uh I'll be honest with you, Larry. I I thought they were already doing some highway work. I didn't know.
SPEAKER_04:No, I think I think it's in the house. It's just been yeah, it's been the streets. Okay. You know, the neighborhoods and and downtown and things like that.
SPEAKER_03:But uh yeah, using freeways is essential for Waymo to offer rides to and from the San Francisco airport. Um, so it said the service won't be offered to all Waymo riders. At first, the company said Waymo riders who want to experience freeway rides can note their preferences, blah, blah, blah. I mean, I understand them testing a lot in the the downtown area, but you would think they would still in the meantime be doing like freeway rides because that's easy, right? Or although maybe they're worried about getting on and off the highway. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I don't know. It but as as a passenger, you know, it is it mentally for me at least, it is one thing to be like riding downtown somewhere where you're going 25-30 miles an hour, as to being on a freeway where you're doing you know 75 and there's nobody at the wheel, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, very true. You're that's a really good point because crashing at 75 and crashing at 65.
SPEAKER_04:That's a whole different world, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Uh C says there are they're not allowed to use all streets, there are routes they can use. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's all geofence and stuff like that. Uh, I just for some reason thought they were already uh be bopping around. So uh all right, octopus tablet. Uh, I know we've talked about it several times. Larry uh added a new picture. It looks like they've updated their um screen a little bit. And Larry, how did you find this picture? Uh I took that picture of my tablet. Oh, did you happen to like have to adjust it and saw it pop up?
SPEAKER_04:Uh no, I was just back there turning on one day. I was like, you know, I need to take a picture for our show because uh we you know we have that old one, so yeah, I just I just need to take care of it.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you. Yeah, we'll definitely need to uh update ours. But yeah, this is kind of what it looks like. Obviously, Larry wasn't on a ride, but this is a tablet you can get for yourself. If you're a ride share driver, you can earn, you know, up to$100 a month. Uh they got all kinds of great stuff. Obviously, the trivia looks like uh baseball mascot match, which is kind of fun. Catch the donut, and then you know, you got some ads up here and some videos and shit like that. But I do know that you can also um add uh you can connect your Uber account if you want, and then they can tip on the tablet and so on and so forth. They've kind of partnered with Uber. You also can turn that off, which is really nice. Uh, you're not forced to, but yeah, it's a it's a free way to make money. The tablet's free. Uh charger case, whole nine yards, good support, uh, all that fun stuff. So uh yeah, definitely check it out. Link is in the description. Um if you're driving around doing ride chair all day, why not get paid a little extra money just for pretty much doing nothing?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Steve, as far as I know, they're still sending tablets out. I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I wouldn't know because yeah, I haven't heard anything the contrary. Well, it's weird they're they shut their Facebook page down, which is it's weird to me.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I they're pushing everything to their app.
SPEAKER_03:Which is fine, but like I'm getting like no email the only email I get is my um referral report every month. But like I don't even know what they're doing, at least with the Facebook page. I mean, let's face it, there's a let's face it, no pun intended. Uh there's a lot of there's a lot of people on Facebook. I mean, I use it regularly. I don't really use it maybe for its intended purse to purpose to stay connected with family and friends. I kind of use it for the show. There's a lot of groups and stuff. So I I don't know. I think I think it was a weird it got a little toxic, and maybe they just didn't want to fucking deal with it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, they might be. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:Because being an admin in a group that has like 500,000 people in it's gotta be like a full-time job. Yeah, a couple people's full-time jobs, or you just set up the AI so fucking strict that none of it gets through except if it's legitimately a question. So uh Bubba Sue said Gary just got a new tabat recently. Okay, yeah. I would assume they're they're they're hopping. So um, yeah. Either you should be promoting promoting piss in the stream yard duck. I I don't think there's well this is this is it is kind of odd because this thirsty goose does look like the stream yard duck.
SPEAKER_04:He he there's a very much a resemblance there, other than the color. If you would yeah, if it had the green head, yeah. If it had a green head, yeah, yeah. You should paint it. You should paint it, make it look like the stream yard duck, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no, I still have this little guy on my desk. Unused is brand new. It's got a lot of dust on it, though, that's for sure. This whole desk has a lot of dust. Steve's like, yes, that it's not a stream yard duck, though. It's a thirsty goose.
SPEAKER_04:It is a thirsty goose.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not pushing a thirsty goose. I had a link on for a while on that. I'm like, no one ever bought anything. I'm just like, and it was expensive, it was like$45 for this fucking goose. Yeah, like a Gatorade's$2.99.
SPEAKER_04:And you can use reuse it over and over.
SPEAKER_03:You rinse it out and reuse it. So not that I would ever do that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, all right, Larry. Uh someone again, another Amazon Flex video.
SPEAKER_04:It is, yeah. Um, I don't think this is Amazon Flex.
SPEAKER_03:I well, it's delivery of some sort.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's delivery, but uh yeah, it's it's funny to watch. Apparently, this goat gets loose in this Detroit neighborhood and it's just chasing people all over the place.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, I got a noob.
SPEAKER_03:I thought it was a fuck it's literally not have anything to do with gig work. Yeah, I I was like, I'm not sure it's Amazon Flex. No, for some reason, I just like my my brain just goes to those videos, someone running and jumping out of car. I'm like, it's gotta be a driver or something.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's gotta be a delivery driver.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, there's they're they're they're everywhere.
SPEAKER_04:They are uh but anyway, yeah. This video is for our audio listeners. Yeah, it's uh Detroit neighborhood, and this goat's on the loose, and and uh you can hear from the audio that these people were were kind of scared of this goat. Like this people were jumping up on the cars, they were jumping up on porches trying to get away, they were screeching, they were hollering.
SPEAKER_03:For fair, though, I'm not fucking with a goat. Like that was a big goat. That was a I think that was a billy goat. Like that thing is gonna smash your face. If it was like a fainting goat or some little one, I wouldn't, but that that thing was big. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he he could probably push you over. Right.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not messing with that. Shit, I run from turkeys because those fuckers are assholes. Yeah, uh going back to the tablet, which uh the link is in the description. Seth says, great conversation piece. Mine has never been used. I don't understand that.
SPEAKER_04:If you have thirsty goose.
SPEAKER_03:Oh not the tablet.
SPEAKER_04:No, I thought it was the one at the pig neck.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that's right. Yeah, it is a great con that sorry, sorry, Seth. I was very off on that. Yeah, never been used. Yeah, I don't want to use it. I I often feel that it wouldn't be able to get cleaned out very well. Like if you peed in it and forgot to clean it and it sat there for like three months, and you're like, what the fuck is that smell?
SPEAKER_04:You know, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but I bet it I yeah, I bet it is cool as a as a conversation piece. Yeah, for sure. Although I have it in my basement and no one comes down here but me, except when Steve talks about it.
SPEAKER_04:But but we talk about it on the show how many times like once a month.
SPEAKER_03:Steve says I see mountain goats when hiking that are. Yeah, those mountain goats. I know that's what I'm saying. That goat was huge. That goat was fucking huge. I'm jumping on the car too, so yeah. All right, uh, DoorDash confirms that they had a data leak, shocker, uh, looks like phone numbers, email addresses, names, and physical addresses. So we got a lot cooking here. Um pretty much despite the fact that hackers stole the numbers and addresses, no sensitive information was accessed by the unauthorized third party. I mean, okay, other than a social security number or driver's license, but basically you can come find where I live and call me on the phone. I mean, that's pretty sensitive if you don't mind me or my mind me saying.
SPEAKER_04:Um you know, you know what's so funny? We we think that now, but when we grew up, everybody's name and number was in the phone book.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Isn't that wild?
SPEAKER_04:I mean, it's just a it's a perception thing. I mean, back then when I mean that's how you that's how you found people. You look them up in the phone book, you know. Kids today are like, what's a phone book?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, also, do you ever uh people get really fussy when you post a plate number online, like you're supposed to lose their mind, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I mean I I don't know. I mean, you can you see it driving down the street, you know, it's not like it's a secret exactly, and and you post the plate and nobody knows who it is. They I mean they you don't have access to that information unless you're in law enforcement, really.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know because so we you can find the plate and it will tell you what make and model that car is.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so so right model.
SPEAKER_03:So we do that, you know. I always bring stuff back to the bus yard, but when we have a plate runner, we'll confirm if that's the actual car. But it does say if you want more, you have to pay and find out who it is. So I don't know if they can if that is you probably can pay. I think you can for the right amount of money, but yeah, I always feel like people are freaking out with like uh the oh yeah, I've seen that reporting Facebook groups a lot of times like, oh, that's illegal, you can't be posting their plate, you know, on there. I mean, I guess if you had like so uh if I have a personalized plate, and I guess if you posted it, like people might know exactly who you are if you were driving in the area, right? We're like, oh okay, you know, I know who that is because that's the personalized plate that I saw. But other than that, so yeah. Um what's interesting so is this breach originated from a ploy falling for social engineering attack. I literally today I work for Sunset, right? Old people, I have to go through all that that fucking training. I literally did a segment tonight, like a 20-minute training about this social engineering. Yeah, we have to do training on that.
SPEAKER_04:When I worked at the city, uh I was the one who would we had we had software that um creates these, yeah. And we send it out to test people, yeah. And it's like the same freaking people every year, it's the same ones, the same people fall for it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you're going through the training like what you're getting it right, like oh, is it all older people too?
SPEAKER_04:No, not necessarily. Okay, not necessarily, but yeah, we would we would do it, and if they clicked on it, it would it would, you know, we would we we could see who had clicked on it or who had just or or different things, and yeah, we would send them a thing, you're like, you know, this is not, and then uh you know, supposedly if they clicked, you know, they failed it so many times, they'd have to go through remedial training and all this kind of stuff. But it was funny, yeah. We could create an and we had all I mean I I had the software I could create, you know, like a fake UPS one. I mean, it was good, it was it was really good. It wasn't the ones where it was full of typos and the logo was all you know janky and you know stuff was weird. You could make it look look pretty good, and you start sending out those delivery things around you know December when people are Christmas shopping and people are gonna click on them.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, it's really gotten a lot better. I feel like a lot of the janky ones go right into spam right away. Like I don't even get them in my email, but I have gotten some like uh like Netflix, your car didn't go through, and it looks legit.
SPEAKER_04:Like all you gotta do is look at the address though, but like some people don't realize that, and then you yeah, or hover over a link and it'll show you you know where you're really going.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and then and it's like if you're a regular billpayer and you get that, why are you clicking on that? You know it paid, you know you're you know, like so. Yeah, people are dumb. Yeah, um, Steve, you would put be slowly putting 10 names on a floppy disk. Yeah, pretty much. Uh all right, Larry. 84% of riders never compare Uber versus Lyft, and that is wild to me.
SPEAKER_04:That that blows my mind. It blows my mind. I tell everybody all the time, and and I had somebody ask the other day, you know, which one's better, Lyft or Uber. You know, you get that so many times, but which one you like more, you know, everything. And I'm like, dude, always have both the apps, check we're getting ready to take a ride, pull them out both, check them because sometimes, yeah, almost always one of them's gonna be cheaper, and sometimes it's it's significantly cheaper, you know. I've seen them 10, 12, 20 cheaper. And and I'm like, and they're like, nah, I don't ever use Uber, or nah, I don't ever use Lyft, you know. I just always use Uber. I'm like, why would you why would you not do that? Why would you just be floating in one of them? Yeah, it's just what they're used to. It's just what they're used to. But yeah, I push that all the time. Like, dude, I always have, yeah, you might you one one might be surging real big and the other one's not at all. Or you do the wait time, it might be the same price, but this one it may be, you know, a 10-minute wait and that one's a 20-minute wait, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I do I do find that uh a tip would be once you find the cheapest, book it right away. Like be ready to go because trying to alternate back and forth and and that will make you crazy, you know what I mean? And it could flip-flop, but if you're ready to go and one's three bucks cheaper, it literally doesn't matter because that driver's probably running both apps anyways.
SPEAKER_04:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you know, and you know, you might as well fucking go the cheap one. That's where I think these apps need to reward these drivers a little, or not drivers, these customers a little bit more to keep that loyalty with um one app or the other. Although I feel like a lot of people are like you said, are already like it's just a convenience thing, so they are loyal even without the rewards.
SPEAKER_04:So yeah, they really are. Most of them that I talked to are like why why do you why you use to use Uber? I ask them and they're like, Well, yeah, it's what I first started using, and all my friends use it. So I just kind of got used to using it. I don't even have they don't know. You usually have Lyft downloaded, or they don't have you know Uber downloaded, they just have one of them downloaded, right?
SPEAKER_03:I love Steve. He's like, I texted you both. Steve, we're doing a fucking live stream. Like, I I've I've I don't look at my phone when I'm doing a live stream. Yeah, remember I said there was something fucked up. Apparently, he said uh there's YouTube in three hours from now. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:This is our practice show, our real show's in three hours.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we yeah, working out all the kinks, man. This is actually our first show ever. So yeah, I'll have to take a look at that. I was wondering why there were three on there, but I was like, I had oh god, this whole this whole new fucking uh the nude stream thing. I thought it had something to do with that. I don't know. Anyways, stop derailing me. Uh squirrel. Steve takes hours and days to reply to a text and give me all trouble. Yeah, I know. Days, weeks, centuries. All right, uh, real quick, let's see, 53. Oh, yes. Uh, so Doordash is uh partnering up with uh old Navy. So I don't know. Do you shop at old? I mean, old Navy used to be the shit back in the day.
SPEAKER_04:Uh I've shopped there only if I'm like buying stuff for the you know, maybe want some of the kids that they want something specifically from there or something like that.
SPEAKER_03:I used to Meg and I were just talking about that. Uh we used to shop there all the time, and the prices were cheap, and the quality was so so, and now the prices are expensive and the quality's no go. Yeah, it's yeah, and for a while there they were really pushing the slim fit jeans. So I'd go in there, like every pair was slim fit. I'm like, you see these thighs, mother? Like this, there ain't no slim fit here.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so yeah, this one's I had a Katie on uh uh on TikTok. Katie, I don't she's on our TikTok, man. I want to say hi and thank you.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know where that's I don't see anything. Oh well, I think it's Katie Marie probably, which is awesome. It is Katie Marie. So, anyways, yeah, you start you can now get your DoorDash uh or get your old navy from DoorDash.
SPEAKER_04:And and just again, you know, it's one of those things, it's been a recurring theme throughout this whole year of these companies. DoorDash, especially. Uh they're by far the one that that's you know um leading the pack in this, building these um partnerships with different companies.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I don't understand why they don't like these like all these companies aren't doing this. Like, why aren't you using like this? Is who was I talking to? Probably my mother-in-law, you know, she's talking about, you know, having to go to the store. I'm like, I was like, in a couple years, uh no, no, no, it was it was Costco. We uh we no, it was me and Megan, that's right. I'm sure I talked to my mother-in-law about that too, but uh it was Costco. We were wondering why Costco doesn't have curbside yet for like the like the the customer, not like through Instacart or whatever.
SPEAKER_05:Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_03:But why it doesn't do that? And I'm like, they're they're missing the boat, like everyone else is going to curbside. Before we're not gonna have anybody in the stores but employees, yeah. And a few randoms that like to shop, but like I mean, if I could get curbside without having to go through Instacart and paying the the fees and um, you know, the tip of the driver and stuff, I would totally do that. Although it is kind of fun to go to Costco to look at the cool shit they got too.
SPEAKER_04:But yeah, and and you know, I I would imagine part of their reasoning is you know, they know that people will spend more when they go to the store.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's a good point. We don't we definitely when we order groceries online, we definitely don't spend as much.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you know how it is. You're walking through the store and they have them, you know, they pay you know Buku money to have people design this store to make you buy the maximum amount of stuff. You know, they know exactly where to put the stuff to make you walk through the whole store to get everything that you're gonna need, and you pass everything. So you're gonna you're gonna have some impulse buys.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, for sure. That's such a good point, like the little Debbie's in the aisles and stuff like that. Oh yeah, which I'm a sucker for. Um it's hard when you're at when you're doing Spark and you're working at Walmart and you're walking past this shit ten times. Oh yeah. You know, and and I think what is is kind of nice now is at least at Spark at at my Walmart, you have to go, they have Spark checkout aisles, and you can't uh scan your own shit. Like you can't buy your own stuff, right? Right. So you would have to literally go through the Spark one and then go through the other aisle, park, yeah, park your cart and go through it. I'm too lazy to do that. Yeah, that's too much work, man. So I typically don't even uh do fuck around with that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that and that's why that's that's one of the things that gets me with food delivery. Start delivering food, and I'm like, damn, it's making me hungry now. You know, yeah. I'm fine out there, you know, grinding when I'm doing ride share. Don't even think about it. You know, hungry at all. And then you start then you get something you're delivering that's really really smells good, and you're like, oh man.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you can just be that guy that gets door dash delivered to his car when he's door dashing.
SPEAKER_04:Or be one of those people who you know just takes about half of it for themselves, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you know that happens. Uh it probably happens in every city on a daily basis. Somebody does that. Oh, yeah, which is fucking weird. I don't I can't imagine somebody, I can't imagine doing that to somebody. Yeah, that's so I don't even think I would do that to my worst enemy. Even if I saw like it was like this piece of shit I know, I would deliver it just like I would anybody else.
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I'm not gonna do that. Jesus.
SPEAKER_04:So I delivered I delivered uh insomnia cookies to my ex-wife. Did you really? Yes, I did.
SPEAKER_03:When did this happen? You never this was like this was like four or five years ago. How do we never hear this story?
SPEAKER_04:It's probably not much of a story, right? There's not much story. No, I got it, and I saw the name, and I was like, because you know they don't give you the the whole last name. It's like you know, the first name, last initial, and I was like, and then I saw the address and it was where she works, and I was like, Yep. And so now when I got there, I you know this left him at the window. You know, I didn't didn't I didn't uh oh you didn't hand them to her and didn't see her, no, but uh but she texted me later, she's like, Was that you who delivered my cookies?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, so she got your phone number. Oh, is that your ex from your kids?
SPEAKER_04:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so you obviously have her phone number, okay. Yes, yes, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that I'm sure we talked about it back in the day. I'm sure we I can't. I I'll forget everything we talked about on this show uh once I hit end stream. Yep. So, but uh all right, let's do the last one uh on the Patreon. Um thank you guys all for tuning in. Sorry about all the confusion at the beginning and internet troubles. Um it's so hard. Uh I have a friend, her name is Becky, and she wants to start a bus podcast. And I I've thought about it, but talking about like the the funny stuff and the woes and stuff like that. And then and I was asking her, she we were talking about the live stream part of it, and I was like, you know what, you don't want to live stream. Uh not yet, until you're really comfortable because live stream adds a whole nother level of complexity.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah. If if yeah, if if you hadn't figured all this stuff out, like I would never have started a live stream.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Yeah, and and and if we were just recording you and I and you were having the tech issues, we just stop. I'd say go reboot your computer or whatever. I'd get a cup of coffee, come back, you know. You but you you know, when you got people live, you gotta fill. So uh but anyway.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, normally I reboot every time before, and I think I forgot tonight.
SPEAKER_03:Did you?
SPEAKER_04:Uh I think I did, yeah. I was too worried with my heating pad on, man.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that's right. Yeah. Well, anyways, we are going to be streaming live at 8 10 p.m. Hopefully, no tech issues anymore. Yeah, but have you join us? Part of the Patreon, go to patreon.com slash the Gigicon Podcast. There you can sign up for the seven uh seven dollar tier and you can watch us live. You can actually join us in the studio and talk, talk with us and ask questions.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So um, yeah, I am the jury is still out for next Wednesday if I'm gonna stream. I don't know. I think last year we took Thanksgiving Wednesday off too, didn't we?
SPEAKER_04:I think we did, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So we may or may not be here, depending if I'm in a pissy mood or not. And want to plan a show, but uh, but I really appreciate you guys all if we don't see you next uh Wednesday. Yeah, if we don't happy Thanksgiving. Yeah, we'll definitely see you uh the week after that, and then we always take a couple weeks off at Christmas. But uh, as always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit. We'll see you on the road. All right, have a good night, everybody. Yeah, good night. Thanks, everybody. This podcast is produced and edited by Hey Guys Media Group. Want to start a podcast? Check out heyguysmedia group dot com.
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