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I’m Not Walking in 15 Inches For A No-Tip Order | Ep 287
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Two friends tackle a frozen week of gig work—how storms stall demand, why some apps shut down, and where the money still flows—then zoom out to taxes, tips, and the fight for transparency. We also dig into AV stumbles, teen ride safety, and Amazon’s shifting retail play.
• ice storm impacts on scheduling and safety
• spark incentives and whether cold boosts earnings
• 1099 tip reporting inconsistencies across apps
• NYC’s 10% tip prompt and legal fallout
• waymo school bus violations and near curb crash
• amazon big box plans vs go and fresh pullbacks
• multi-apping boundaries and store policies
• lyft teen rides, pins, tracking, and audio prompts
• doordash weather shutdowns and $2 storm fee
• snow delivery etiquette, prep, boots, and boundaries
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Hello, hello. Welcome to the Gate Economy Podcast. Episode 287 with Larry Maurice.
SPEAKER_07:You remember it. I remembered.
SPEAKER_06:I remembered. How's it going, Larry?
SPEAKER_07:It's going well, man. Just here getting over this, you know, snow and ice like everybody else around the country.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. Larry pre-show uh talked about he had been at home since Friday and he left for the first time today. I'm like, holy crap, I don't think I could do that.
SPEAKER_07:I know I'm an outlier. Most people go stir crazy, but yeah, me and my wife, my daughter, uh none of us had left the house since Friday. That's wild. Yeah. My daughter went out uh just about an hour before I did just to check the roads because she's supposed to go to work tonight.
SPEAKER_06:So Okay. Um, did you guys have any big power outages near you or anything, or everyone's good?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I mean, here in in Bowling Green, most people are good, but like the county next to us, Allen County. I got some friends out there, they've been out of power since Friday.
SPEAKER_06:Oh wow. So it it so you you you escaped it. Yeah, if it's a county over.
SPEAKER_07:East of us, east of us, and then north and south of us, pretty much, because Nashville, if you've seen pack if you haven't seen pictures of Nashville, go on Facebook and look at pictures of Nashville, man. They got they got hammered. There are trees falling down everywhere.
SPEAKER_06:Oh my gosh. So it's horrible. That is horrible.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, we were lucky. My my parents lost power for about half an hour yesterday or day before. Okay. That's really it as far as my media family.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, well, that's good to hear. Very good to hear. Uh, Patreon members, thank you guys so much. Samson, Bud, Dickman, Bud Dickman. I went Bud and then Dickman as two names. Bud Dickman, Omar, Frank, Tom, Jim, Miguel, Linda, Jerry, Faith, Metal, Kickass, and Anna. Go to patreon.com slash the gig econ podcast if you'd like to join. Because we'd love you. Stories from the road. Uh, Larry has none, so I'm just gonna jump in. Uh, I did a little bit of Walmart Spark. Um, the storm that Larry experienced actually went south of us. I know Gabe and Ann Arbor did get some of that as snow, but not ice or anything. But yeah, it it went south of Grand Rapids. Um, but we had a bunch of sew last week. In fact, uh, when I recorded, when we recorded, that was the only day I had worked in the entire last week. So I had Monday, Tuesday, worked Wednesday, Thursday, Friday off. Um, so yeah, I went out on the weekend, did some did some Walmart. Pretty good, not really any big stories. They did send out a pretty decent incentive, but I didn't wasn't able to do it just due to the fact that it was like 15 trips and 21 trips from like Saturday to like Wednesday, and I just I wasn't gonna have the time to do that. But I don't know if they did that because of the cold snap, and they thought, well, I don't know. I I've never seen them do like a long standing um incentive like that where it's 15 or 20 trips. And I I think that was pretty common around the nation. I seen a lot of people talking about the same kind of incentive, uh different amounts for the 15 or the 21, but relatively the same incentive. So I did that and it was pretty good. Had a decent weekend. Um I did, I think I had one incentive, like it was a$30 one, I think, on Friday. So I went out, yeah, that's right. So we're talking about cooped up. I I went out on Friday when we didn't work, and it was that was the cold day. We got we it was like so cold, but I was like, fuck it, I have to go out um and did some work, and I I'm glad I did because it was good to get out of the house. But uh, before we drop into jump into gig economy in the news, I wanted to talk a little bit though about taxes real quick. Now, this obviously, um Hey Bubba Sue and Traveler. Obviously, we are not tax accountants. In fact, I don't even fuck with my daughters, I just bring it to my guy. Like, here you go, I don't give a shit. Like, I don't want to fuck with it. But do you remember last year when uh the administration talked about not taxing tips?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, everybody got excited about it.
SPEAKER_06:Everyone got excited about it, and uh so here come the W uh not the W-2s, the 1099s, and guess what? They're not separating tips. It is all in one. So you are not, as far as I know, are not gonna be able to get any kind of uh tax deduction on tips because they loop everything together or lump everything together. Um I think that maybe in 2026, because like he brought it out, but like it was in the middle of the year. There's no way they're gonna be able to figure that out and separate that stuff. I mean, it's it's probably not hard to do. Um, but yeah, my all my 1099s so far have just been lumped into one. I don't know about yours.
SPEAKER_07:My Uber statement shows my tips. Okay, does it? It does. It's it's of course I didn't it's the um it's just called the 2025 annual tax summary.
SPEAKER_08:Right.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, down at the down at the second page, uh it has let's see, table three, it has gross trip earnings, then it has tips underneath.
SPEAKER_06:Okay, okay. Uh yeah, I have not looked at my Uber one, but I mean I I the one that I basing it on, and in fact, um Maureen had sent me a message. She had a uh uh one of her friends ask about it, and I I downloaded it and it was all lumped together. So yeah, I I mean good on Uber for doing that.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I don't see anything on my lift one.
SPEAKER_06:So was this whole like the administration in charge likes to proclaim things but doesn't actually like have Congress or whatever to do stuff? That's politicians everywhere and yeah, the the executive order. Um, I don't even know if that was like the tax thing. Was that like I mean we kind of talked about it, but was that an actual like yes, this is yeah, yeah, this is legit.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure it did, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Okay, so it's yeah, I mean, if you if you work at a um a restaurant, your W-2, they do break, I remember they would break it down in a little category on your W-2 because it's like a tipping like business, you know. Obviously, not the cash ones, but um, but yeah, I didn't see anything in Walmart. And I guess see so I would have guessed I would maybe talk to Gabe like Instacart. I wonder if it's broken down there. Um, and then you said lift, you didn't see it.
SPEAKER_07:Uh yeah, I haven't really looked through it that close, but I'm just glancing at it. I do not see the tip part of it.
SPEAKER_06:Okay.
SPEAKER_07:Um they do have one something called non-ride earnings. So I don't know if that's bonuses or tips or yeah.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, you could probably figure it out depending on not the amount of money in that cat in that box. You know, if it's like three bucks, then it was, you know, a cleaning fee or something.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah. No, it was uh yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. Well, for some something to keep an eye on. I haven't seen any new news articles about it. Um, but yeah, I guess I know for sure Walmart lumps them all together. I'm trying to think what other apps I do. I mean, you got Uber, you got Lyft. Uh well, DoorDash. I wonder what DoorDash is looks like. Um I mean, I probably did about six trips the entire that's probably about probably about four more than I did.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, so I don't even know.
SPEAKER_06:I don't even, I mean, I I still claim everything, like even though I know they say it's 600 or more, but I just turn everything into my guy. Like, I mean, I'm not worried about paying taxes on six trips, you know. Yeah, I mean it's like whatever. But something to keep an eye on. Um, I'm hoping that maybe because you know, Walmart, although Walmart's heavy on their base pay, so most of my money isn't yeah, tips aren't the main thing really for Spark. Uh no, yeah. So it's not that big of a deal. But if you're gonna if you're gonna save some money, I mean you might as well use everything to your you know available to you.
SPEAKER_07:So exactly. Take take you know, take advantage of the of the you know things they put out there for you, the tax breaks that that were legally granted.
SPEAKER_06:Right. And I'm surprised we haven't seen much on that. I mean, we're we're bumping up to February next week, you know, and and usually the deadline is January 31st for all that stuff. And I haven't seen anyone talk about it in the groups about I mean, a little bit here and there, but nothing about the tips.
SPEAKER_07:Uh no, I don't think I have either.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, so we'll have to see, and I'm sure something will come up and then we'll be able to talk about it. Um, all right. Gig economy in the news. Uh, got quite a bit, lots of videos, lots of pictures, lots of stories. Uh Uber and Dash Uber and DoorDash lose bid to uh squash the NYC tipping law. We talked about that before. Uh they were uh the the law basically says it those apps are required to offer uh where was it? I think it was like 10%. It says Uber and uh I'm sorry. Uber and Doordash asked the judge for an injunction to block the new law, which requires food delivery apps to offer customers the tip option or the option to tip delivery workers. Where did I see somewhere that said at 10%? I didn't highlight this thing because I'm a piece of shit. You know, when I go over these, I'm like, oh yeah, I'll remember. It'll be fine. And then you uh and then you uh get live and you can't really Yeah, you start scrolling.
SPEAKER_07:Like, I know I saw that in that article somewhere. I know it's in there.
SPEAKER_06:So so basically it got squash. Um, it said, according to the judge, it did not demonstrate a clear likelihood of succeeding on their claims that the laws, including a requirement that they recommend a minimum tip of 10%, violated the First Amendment rights to free speech. I mean, I I don't know about that. That's quite a stretch. So yeah, that's gonna happen in there. I um why okay, so why do you think DoorDash they don't want that? Is it you because you would think they would be like, oh, it's probably because they have to pay them a minimum. Because like for us, you would think, oh, they want the tipping so they can lower the base pay.
SPEAKER_07:Right.
SPEAKER_06:But in New York, you can't do that because you gotta pay them a minimum. I mean, New York, man, they are just they fucking hate business in New York. Like, it's like the capital of capitalism, but yet they fuck you so hard on the that's where all the battles are fought. Yes, yes, when that stuff, but like, yeah, I'm like, you guys, you know, the New York Stock Exchange, like everything's business, but yeah, oh, by the way, we are gonna stomp you so hard. Um so yeah, that's what's going on. Uh I don't know. What do you feel about that? Do you feel like what do you what do you feel about the whole deal in New York anyways? Do you like that setup? I think it's like 23 an hour, you're guaranteed. I don't know.
SPEAKER_07:You know, it's it's tough when you're not you don't work that market to know all the nuances of it.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Um I mean it all according, you know, as a gig worker, it always sounds good. Oh, we're gonna get guaranteed. But you know, you always redefined detail. Oh, it's only you're only guaranteed when you're when you're doing this or you're doing that, or and that's gonna cause us to start, you know, you're not gonna be available all the time whenever you want to work, you're gonna have to do shifts. And yeah, there's always gonna be a uh give and take on it. You know, you give a little, you have to give a little. Yeah. And so they give you something, they're gonna probably take something back or take it away.
SPEAKER_06:And just on that, the amount, the 23 something, like that doesn't even seem great for me in Grand Rapids.
SPEAKER_07:I'm not gonna for New York, that yeah. Yeah, doesn't go not gonna go far.
SPEAKER_06:No, and and and maybe um maybe that's why they wanted to add the tipping option to, I don't know, or or the force tip. Um, yeah, I don't know. It it's gonna be interesting if if it stays the same or if they're able to fight it and get that change. But uh, Traveler, New York sucks, take my word for it. Yeah, you know it's funny. My daughter is a senior this year, and we're we're gonna do a senior trip. I don't know what it's gonna be, but she wants to go to New York. I said, I fucking do not want to go to New York. Like, I don't want to deal with the people, I don't like huge crowds. I mean, I would really like to visit a few like key places there, but it just sounds like an absolute nightmare.
SPEAKER_07:I I mean I I enjoy I love going into New York to visit. I've been in probably half a dozen times or six or eight times over the years. Okay. Um it's it's yeah, it is. It's it's weird to visit these places that if you've never been there, you know, these places you heard about and seen in movies and and uh you know you're in central and you walk through Central Park, you recognize so many different locations from movies that have been in it over the years, or you're there and you're like, Man, this is this is this is the Wall Street, or this is Broadway. This is you know, we're Broadway, this is it, you know. To to see all that stuff once at least is is uh really cool in my opinion. But you know, you do there's a lot of people in that city, man. A lot of people, and it's when you first go, you're like, it's just like the movies, there'll be eight lanes of traffic and just cabbies honking their horns all the time like, dude, there's nobody's going nowhere. What are you honking for?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, what it you know the everyone must be stressed there.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, like a lot of people are. But it's it's crazy. Uh I don't I don't I'd I'd like to live there for maybe six months just to see everything I want to see in that time and then and then go, but yeah, the price of it and everything, but it is neat you know seeing the uh 9-11 museum that's you know, top of the list. That's that's so um just I don't know, it just brings back so many memories and think about what happened uh during that time. So yeah, I mean I would suggest if if you have a chance to go in once at least I might do it without my kid and not being the senior trip.
SPEAKER_06:Like there's a little pressure with that, you know what I mean? Um, but I'm like, honey, don't you want to go to Mexico for like four or five days? Just me, you and your mom, like you know, I want to do New York. I'm like, yeah, fuck that shit.
SPEAKER_07:Um Sue said you're gonna be overwhelmed.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, she knows me. She knows me. She's like, oh, Jason's gonna kill somebody. Um anyways, yeah. Speaking of like 9-11, the it would the challenger uh 40-year anniversary. You know, I I started talking to my daughter about that today at lunch. Um, and she I was like, Yeah, I was um I was 10 years old. I remember at school they had all the TVs on because you know that was a big freaking deal.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, yeah, yeah, it was huge, especially because the school teacher was going.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I mean that was never happened, and then like freaking a minute and a half in, it blew up, and I'm like, oh my God, it was horrible. People were crying. It was it was a disaster. I'm like, that's probably the last time they did anything live on TV at my school.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I can imagine. And and that was I'm sure that was the case at schools all over the country. I remember that was I mean, back then, I mean, it you know, just a shuttle takeoff was a big deal. You know, all the you know, back then you had three, three channels, you know, three networks to choose from. And it was on all the channels, you know, and that was a big deal. They cover our you know, they covered all of them. Uh, I remember that day very clearly. I was uh it was my first year in college.
SPEAKER_06:God, I was in elementary school. Yeah, I was 10, bro.
SPEAKER_07:I I remember walking down and uh I was walking with my girlfriend, and we went to her dorm, went, you know, stopped by her the lobby of her dorm and and somebody talked about it. And so I immediately like went back to my dorm room and started watching because I love I mean, I was a always loved watching you know the space stuff always thrilled me. Yeah, it's amazing the technology. It is amazing, but yeah, what what a tragedy.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. All right, nice downer. Thanks, Larry. And you brought it up, not me. Yeah, whatever. Uh so I know I know you said 40 years ago. I know, I know. It just it just it was just interesting to talk about since you're talking about 9-11 history. Yeah, uh, Larry wants to talk about Waymo. So this is not Waymo in the news. We do have a Waymo in the news, but we're still doing these frickin' school buses. I uh they're they're wild drivers, anyways. They need to be off the road.
SPEAKER_07:They are wild. So yeah, this uh this is an article from a Texas school district says that Waymo continues to illegally pass its buses even after they did the recall that supposedly fixed it. So this is in Austin, Texas. So they have video uh showing Waymo vehicles, you know, illegally passing uh stop school buses again, even after they said they've updated their software to fix that problem. Uh this uh TV station has obtained and viewed uh videos showing at least 24 different instances this school year. Damn where the uh autonomous vehicles passed while the stop arm was out. That's a lot. That's for this this school year. Yeah. Um so yeah, it says those are those are among more than 7,000 citations that the school district has issued to drivers this year for passing the bus. Oh my goodness. So yeah, uh yeah, you know, they they had the big recall. We we talked about this a while back, and they said they were having a recall to fix that problem. They were updating the software, but apparently they have not solved this problem at all because it's still happening. 24 and what how many months y'all been in school?
SPEAKER_06:Well, a while. I mean September August. Yeah, so five months ago. But still, I don't think I've had 24 people run my reds like regular cars. Yeah, like by myself. I bet we haven't had well, we may have it with our entire fleet because some people drive on some roads that are busy. But um, yeah, I uh that's a friggin' lot.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Um I don't understand what the big like glitches.
SPEAKER_07:I don't understand either. I really don't. You would think we've talked about it. I mean, it's it's you know, a big red flashing stop sign on a bus. Yeah, big, you know, big giant yellow vehicles hard to miss. So you would think that's be something that they could get right, but apparently they have not yet.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. It's kind of it's really kind of embarrassing, honestly. It is.
SPEAKER_07:Hey, Jerry, just want to say hi to Jerry. He's from here in Bowling Green. Can't drive in Bowling Green. What do you mean, Jerry?
SPEAKER_06:Because of the ice probably because of the ice.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's it's like I said, the main roads are fine, but um the subdivisions and and side roads that where they don't plow and stuff, yeah, it's it's just still solid ice, a lot of them. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Well, hopefully they'll get this corrected. Um, again, we talk always about accountability, like who's gonna be accountable for this stuff, or who's gonna be accountable when you run over a freaking kid.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it says in seven of the videos that this TV station reviewed, children could be seen in the video frame. Uh the videos also show multiple other cars illegally passing the school bus.
SPEAKER_06:Well, yeah, I mean, it's it's I see there's a there's a not a channel on TikTok, but it's the same area. I don't know where it is, but these people just it's like they've never even heard of the law. And these are multiple people just blowing past yeah, this thing. And and I get it's annoying as a as a as a driver. Like I have a street that I can't let cars pass. It's a double yellow all the way, it's hilly, and I'm stopping and I'm not cross, I'm not even crossing kids. So the oncoming traffic, I mean, technically, my kid is getting off the bus and walking up the driveway, but you still gotta stop. That's just the world, that's the law. I'm sorry, that's annoying, but fucking do it. Like it's it's literally 25 seconds of your life.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, it's yeah. I mean, it's you know, it happens, stuff like that. You you have to, you know, you just have to be patient and things like that. I was going to my PT appointment today, got behind um on the main road, they were they were plowing, and you know how they do it. I have they had four plows, yeah. And so there was no passing. No passing. And and I was, you know, something that normally would have took me about, you know, six, eight minutes to go, took me probably 20, 25.
SPEAKER_06:You know, you know, they don't do that up here. Oh really? No, they might have two on the highway, but they never, they never, you can always get around. They never, but I see it in a lot of states, they put them, they block everything and just get it all off at once, which I mean, I don't think it's a bad idea to do that.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, no, like I said, just you know, it it's snowy out in anyway, so make sure you leave early and give yourself plenty of time. Uh, and you know, I just ended up getting behind those plows and not much you could do.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Jerry says his list summary does not show tips.
SPEAKER_07:I didn't, yeah. My I didn't see it on mine either.
SPEAKER_06:So Uber's the only one because honestly, they kind of have to do it right, because wasn't it a big like to do with Uber and Trump or something like that? Like they had like some sort of conversation around the tips. I thought, God, I I can't remember shit, Larry.
SPEAKER_07:Well, we talk about so much of this stuff, it starts to run together.
SPEAKER_06:I know it's wild how much it does. I feel like an idiot when I talk, but I'm like, I just don't remember.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, we'll we'll talk about things and we're like, didn't we cover that on the show? Or did we, you know, we'll do something and then find out later we did cover it earlier and we don't remember covering it. Yeah, we're it it is. We talk so much about it that it's hard to keep straight. And uh especially when you know if you go on Steve's show and talk about things. Yeah, I know, which I'm starting to do a little bit. Yeah, it really gets hard to prevent that uh from happening then.
SPEAKER_06:Well, yes, so don't run the bus lights. Please don't run uh I will turn your ass in. I have cameras and I don't care. I go right up to my dispatcher, I'm like, gotta pull my tape. And uh she doesn't like it though because it's not it's not cloud. So she's gotta go get the hard drive from the bus. They won't pay for it because it's too fucking expensive. Sure, sure. Um, because you gotta pay for it in the summer, even though those buses just sit there. So they walk out, grab the hard drive, put another one in. I mean, it's a big hard drive. They can record a lot of stuff, but yeah, if you if you pass my bus, I'm gonna freaking report you. So yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Man, they need to get some wireless uploading on those.
SPEAKER_06:Something. I don't know. I the our district's uh technology is so far behind. Like we're just we're just for the first time ever distributing electronic W-2s. First time ever.
SPEAKER_07:You're on the cutting edge there, aren't you?
SPEAKER_06:Dude, we the up until five years ago, or no, because I was still there. Three years ago, they were doing payroll with pen and paper and then uploading to a spreadsheet that gets distributed to payroll at admin. Like that's how, yeah, it's bad. All right, hand and chisel. Right. It's bad. I mean, we're lucky to have freaking cameras on the buses. That's one thing. Our district does spend good money on buses. They are they are decked out. All right, Amazon is bringing a new building concept, which is hilarious because later in the show we're gonna talk about how Amazon Go, which is a actually a building concept, are closing down, but we'll um we'll get to that. So I haven't watched this whole video, and I might pull the plug early because I saw it was like three minutes. I'm like, how can we talk about it this for three minutes? So we'll play this and then uh chat about it.
SPEAKER_01:Sitting at the corner of 159th Street and Lagrange Road, at the site of what was once Orland Park's Pete's two restaurants is a 35-acre bean field that will soon become Amazon's first-of-a-kind big box store, integrating in-store technology to the shopping experience.
SPEAKER_05:It helps cement Orland Park as a go-to place for retail, and it has a lot of benefits for our communities in terms of the revenue.
SPEAKER_01:Renderings of the development show what the eventual 229,000 square foot store will look like. One that, according to the proposals submitted, includes dining options as well as retail. What it will not be, says Mayor Dodge, is a warehouse or fulfillment center. The scope of the project is the biggest question mark attached to it so far. And so even as the village's boards voted tonight to approve the proposal, voices of opposition continue to be heard from those who worry too much, remains unanswered.
SPEAKER_02:This project is being rushed forward with only about two weeks' notice to residents. This proposal is a prototype facility. Its financial success is uncertain. Projections are guesses, and if it fails, there is no redo.
SPEAKER_00:Show me the numbers, show me the details of the internals because no one has seen that.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. When we get to city council, we don't give a shit. Time to pull the plug. I mean, I don't there's always somebody bitching about it. Ain't a data center, yo. Okay, so what the fuck? Oh, you know what? We should have fat because they didn't really exactly say what it was gonna do. Uh, I can't fast forward either.
SPEAKER_07:It's just a big box Amazon store.
SPEAKER_06:Well, yeah, and that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, no one goes to the mall now. What shit? I should have played the old video. I'm kicking myself now. Because I was hoping at the end they were gonna say it's going to like it. Although, why didn't they say that at the beginning? Or maybe I missed it. I thought it was really picking up.
SPEAKER_07:No, they didn't really explain exactly. They just call it a big box store. A retail store. Yeah, retail store. So I mean, why why are you going to go there instead of just ordering it online?
SPEAKER_06:That's my whole point. Like, why would we that's why I was hoping maybe at the end they would have wrapped it up with like, well, this is an advantage. Like, I I I'm with them as far as like worrying that there's gonna be blight after it doesn't work. Because obviously that that that restaurant on that busy corner is dead, you know. So maybe that's what they're worried about is the blight of like if it does if it fails.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. Yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I mean, I I do everything in my power to not go to the store. Like, now my young daughter, she's 18, a girl, she actually still likes going to the mall. Um, she probably won't buy a lot at the mall because she knows she can buy it cheaper, but she still likes going and kind of browsing through the stores and stuff like that. But like, sure, I mean, I want to order a bookshelf. I'm gonna look at my phone and kit click send to my home. I I don't want to drive there. So I I I really don't know what the advantage is.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, if it's just if it's just a retail store that sells the same stuff you can get on Amazon, I I you know, I don't really want to.
SPEAKER_06:Well, and even at that point, how much more can they put in there? Like it's only a certain size. You're only gonna put, I mean, maybe they'll run, you know, they have surveys of like they know what people buy in that area. That Orland Park is actually in Chicago. Um, I have a friend that lives down there, so but yeah, it should be interesting.
SPEAKER_07:I think it's gonna be a flop, but yeah, I think I think it will. It'd be interesting to see.
SPEAKER_06:So who s has seen people that slam their phones in front of the faces? And we've played these before, but this is the same thing, right? Or is it a little different?
SPEAKER_07:Uh, pretty much this. I mean, this one's just uh you know, obviously uh set up. Uh uh It's not real? No.
SPEAKER_06:Gosh, you spoiled me. You spoiled it.
SPEAKER_07:But uh yeah, just they're trying to trying to illustrate what probably the uh people who work at the restaurants have to deal with sometimes.
SPEAKER_06:Right. Bubba Sewis says general merchandise and grocery. Okay, the grocery thing, it that's and that's like at the other article, they're getting rid of the Amazon Fresh Stores. So the Amazon Go was like a convenience store where you walked in, you didn't have to pay. Well, you had to pay. They you could just walk out with it. They they just add it to your phone.
SPEAKER_07:And I've done those at the airport, yeah. When you're getting off the plane or getting you know, waiting for your plane, you walk in, you pick stuff up, and you walk out. You know.
SPEAKER_06:Which is well, you still have to scan your card before you go in. Yeah, yeah, you have to scan your card. But I think with Amazon, they'll know that you have an Amazon account. Like, I don't think you had to scan. I like that uh concept. And then the Amazon Fresh, we didn't have any of those around here. So I don't know why that wouldn't work either. Probably because Whole Foods. Well, we'll talk about it later.
SPEAKER_07:No, Whole Foods. Speaking of Whole Foods, my son lives in the store to Whole Foods, and uh when he goes in, he it reads his palm.
SPEAKER_06:What do you mean?
SPEAKER_07:Hey, palm readers, just put your paint, you put you you connect that to your Amazon account.
SPEAKER_06:Shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, all you do is put your palm on there.
SPEAKER_06:And you just throw shit in your cart and walk out?
SPEAKER_07:That's it.
SPEAKER_06:Damn. So they don't do facial recognition, they do palm.
SPEAKER_07:Uh uh on his, it does. I'll I'll be there this weekend. So uh me and him will be going over to Whole Foods because I always pick up a few things on the city. That's super cool. Okay, if I if I'm correct, which I'm pretty sure I am, then I'll videotape it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, that'd be cool to see. Huh, interesting. All right, anyways, this annoying guy in a restaurant. Let's watch this.
SPEAKER_04:Hello, welcome in, sir. How can I help you? Uber for Uber Eats, okay? Wait, what the fuck are those three phones? Sir, I don't even think that's allowed. That goes against like Uber's policy 100%. Uber. Yes, I know you're an Uber, but you can't be doing that. I can't give you all three orders. What the fuck? Bro, what you mean, no? Uber. Yes, I know you're a fucking Uber, alright? But I can't. Alright, buddy. Uber. Yes, I know. Uber, Uber, Uber. I know, I know, I know. Yes, I know. I can't give you all three orders, sir. Alright? I could get in trouble for that. No.
unknown:Uber.
SPEAKER_04:I know, but no, okay. Fine, okay. Just this one time, okay? Uber.
SPEAKER_07:Okay. Yeah, man. If I was that dude working at it, if that really had no restaurant, man, I'd be so I'd get so frustrated.
SPEAKER_06:Well, the thing is, do you do you think there's restaurants that really if I I see I can understand if you have a Doordash or an Uber. That I think that's fine. That's that's fair game because you know it's it's a different app, but you can't you can't do multiple phones, no. No, with the same app. I mean, clearly it's right you're using someone else's account.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, obviously, which yeah, yeah, which I think you know at the beginning he's saying, no, you can't do that with three phones. So I think they were trying to point that out a little bit. Oh, Bubasue said that they use uh Palm Reader where she's at also.
SPEAKER_06:So we do have a Whole Foods bias, but I first of all, I you know, Whole Foods Whole Paycheck. Um I've never shopped there. I've picking up uh what are they called? Whatever the Whole Foods orders that you like deliver the food or whatever. I don't I there's a name for it. I'm it's I don't know, slip in my mind, but um, but I've never bought anything from there, but yeah, that's that's super cool tech. I don't know. I I who uses freaking fingerprints or palms anymore? Like that just seems like you would think everything's face ID.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I don't I don't uh I don't know why they use palm instead of face, but uh yeah. I mean he just mentioned it to me and I was like, really? Because uh usually when I'm there, like a lot of times I'll go over there and pick a few things up, but he's not with me. So um but I well yeah, obviously you don't have to do it. This is just convenient because I always go over there and get they have these really really good uh Italian mango sodas that are just wonderful.
SPEAKER_06:They're mint.
SPEAKER_07:And uh yeah, but yeah, I'll go and uh when I'm there this weekend and try to take a little video of it.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. Yeah, did you know? So I it's been rumored that uh Apple's coming out with a foldable phone with no crease. So you know, like um you can get the Samsung Z fold or whatever, like it's not a new concept. You know, app everyone gives Apple shit because they always come out with shit. No, they come out after they see what you fuck up and then they master it and then but anyway, just hired the guy that made it from for you and right. Well, apparently that it's going that is going back to like a fingerprint to unlock for that one, but these are all rumors, like it's not been announced or anything. But okay, and they also said that it was gonna be$2,400.
SPEAKER_07:$2,400 for a phone. That is crazy.
SPEAKER_06:It looks tits, though. I'm not gonna lie. The prototype.
SPEAKER_07:I don't care, man. I don't care, I don't care how good it looks for$2,400.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, again, that's a rumor. Although, how could it be$2,400? Because my a brand new a brand new like regular iPhone is like a thousand. How can that one be like$2,400? I can see like maybe two grand, maybe, or maybe$1,800. I don't know. I don't buy new shit anymore. That's I wait till uh I'll get a model. And you don't want the first model, anyways. Because it's probably gonna be shitty. Sorry, we're getting squirrels. Okay, uh, here we go. Amazon flex, uh, fucking New York City. Here we go. Just like we're talking about. Yeah, bop, bop, bop. Okay, so this is interesting. Uh, they got this on their app, um, and this is New York City. So I'm gonna just kind of read it. Pay the delivery service must pay you all earnings at least once a week, offer a no-fee option to receive payment and give you a detailed statement. Delivery service must tell you how much the customer tip for each delivery and pay total in your total pay and tips for the previous day. Um the oh no, this is this is the huge one. The app must tell you route details before you accept a delivery. Details must include pickup address, estimated time, distance, tip, and pay. So this must be for like the Whole Foods thing I was talking about. So this is wild because Amazon Flex has zero transparency, and someone commented about it, like, yeah, they're breaking the law for independent contractors because of this. And I, you know, I never really you know thought about if if that's what they're doing or not. Yeah, but yeah, there's literally no transparency with Flex. So I was kind of like, that'd be nice to like decide if you want to take a route, you know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, because I mean it's just a roll of the dice, right?
SPEAKER_06:A fucking roll of the it's literally a roll of the dice. Like you have no idea the volume, you have no idea how many stops, you have no idea where you're going. Um, I don't know. I was pretty excited. I mean, I as much as we kind of shit on the government getting involved, that seemed I mean, it's true. You need to provide transparency, you're not. We're taking these routes completely blind.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and and we see so much we've over the years, we've seen so many people uh fight against the lack of transparency with DoorDash and Gub Hub and Uber, but you don't I don't ever really see much of it. You don't I don't either. I I don't know why.
SPEAKER_06:I don't know why either. What what what makes it I mean the pays can be decent, but it's not so great that you don't want to rock the boat.
SPEAKER_07:I mean I guess you know what you're making and you know how long supposedly it's gonna take. That is true. You do know you're right.
SPEAKER_06:Some of it. So yeah, you do know the amount you're making, you're right. And maybe that's it. Like I know, and it's a three-hour route. And then when you start doing you realize, well, it's not gonna take you the three hours, it's gonna take you like two. Um, so I guess there is some transparency, you're right. And maybe that's what keeps people going because they know I mean that is nice to know you're guaranteed this amount regardless of whatever happens.
SPEAKER_07:But it'd also be nice to know, okay, I'm gonna have to drive 45 minutes before before I start.
SPEAKER_06:Well, yeah, is it worth this this hundred dollar route? And and that would be interesting because then people would be like, Well, I'm not taking the far ones, you're gonna have to pay a fuck ton more before I'm gonna take these. Now, again, this this thing that we just read, it seems to be Whole Foods, so it's not it's not the right you think it makes it because then some maybe somebody in that area would you know that's already in that area would Yeah, they might they might drive up to the warehouse and take it because they know they're going right back home. I mean, you exactly you just don't know. So Larry, I know you're super excited to play this video.
SPEAKER_07:I am super excited. It's a I'm so excited, I think I might have to pee.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. This was an ad I saw on TikTok. I'm like, it's it's kind of nice. I mean, I I kind of don't hate the idea. And I'm sure No, I don't either.
SPEAKER_07:You know, we we used to we used to uh you know talk about the thirsty goose. This is an alternative, and I'd say a pretty good one.
SPEAKER_03:All right, here we go. I'm stuck in traffic and I have to pee right now. That panic hits fast. Legs locked, sweating, nowhere to go. This is why I keep these in my car. It's a disposable emergency pea bag that absorbs in seconds, turns liquid into gel, and seals tight so nothing leaks or smells. I used one during a 40-minute traffic jam. No mess, no cleanup, no stress. Perfect for road trips, kids, camping, sickness, or real emergencies. They come in a multi-pack, so you're not gambling on just one. They're cheap right now, and once you need one, it's already too late. Links right here.
SPEAKER_06:Grab a pack and keep one in the Okay, so I mean it looks pretty decent. But the thing is though, it's like when I'm doing gig work in the summer, I pee like seven times. I got the smallest thimble bladder, and then if you're drinking caffeinated drinks, it it just Yeah, it just goes to you. It just makes you go pee more. Um, I don't hate it though. It looked like it was comfortable. I mean, obviously it's for men. I mean, I guess, I guess a lady could, but a lady would have to like take their whole pants down.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, that would be something where you'd have to, you know, at least with guys, we can just flop it out.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, like I said, I mean, you know, especially you know, had has that material in there that that turns into a gel so you have to and then it seals up completely. Yeah, it's not a bad idea at all.
SPEAKER_06:I know Bubba Suit is literally I don't have a link for you, hon, but I'll I'll get one and and you can buy it for your friends. Um one of the things stocking stuffers. One of the things I bought, and it they're so damn expensive, but it has kept my car so clean. I bought these, they're literally disposable trash bags. And think about like uh um uh a t-shirt mailer where it's like what is that? It's plastic, and then you just take the sticky part off and close it, and that's how I like ship my t-shirts. It's like that. It is so nice. I've I haven't even used a whole one yet, but I put I've been able to fit so much trash. Honestly, we should like link them for people to buy them, but they're really nice, but they are pricey, they are pricey, but people hate on them so much because oh, you're adding plastic. I'm like, shut the fuck up. Like, at least you're putting your trash in it in a one spot instead of like, you know, I I floss my teeth with one of those pickers and throwing that in the trash, and it's loose. Yeah, you know, I don't know. I love them. I'll have to share the link, but I I think it and it's kept my car so clean because it hangs right, it's it's got a strap on it, hangs right from your um headrest.
SPEAKER_07:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:And then if like my son, I just slide it to the back and then slide it back front, and I just drop all my trash in there. No more trash in my car. There you go. It's nice. So, anyways, it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:And you know, want to keep the car looking good.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I mean, I don't have it's just it's just I don't I don't take passengers, it's just nice to not it, you know, it gets old after a while. Like, oh look at all this fucking trash. I'm I'm a hobo.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, geez, I don't I yeah, I've always kept my car clean. I mean, have you? I'll ever since I yeah, ever since I've had a car, man. I don't like trash in my car.
SPEAKER_06:Well, I don't I don't trash it, but like, you know, it's like okay, I'm gonna be good and make sure I bring all my trash out. And then I got my hands full, and then I'm just like, yeah, yeah, fuck it. And then it lays on the floorboard for three weeks until my wife gets. Not in my car.
SPEAKER_07:No, no, we'll be like, we'll be getting out, and like my wife will have a water bottle or something, and I'll be like I know you're not leaving that trash in my car. She's like, oh, nope, nope. She knows. Yeah, she knows.
SPEAKER_08:Good for you.
SPEAKER_07:We're just teasing, but yeah, I do not like trash. If there's a wrapper in the floor, man, no, I gotta pick it up.
SPEAKER_06:All right, good for you. You're you're better than me. All right, here we go. Waymo in the news. Uh, so Larry, you want to set this one up? You you popped it in there.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, yeah. So this is a this is this is a Waymo. These people are taking probably their first Waymo ride. Who knows? Uh, but you know, you get in and I guess you know, you get in, make sure you get your seatbelt and all that, and it pops up on the screen, I guess. And you know, when you're ready to start the ride, you hit start ride. And uh yeah, this Waymo as many sensors and cameras and everything it has around them. I mean, it kills almost kills them in about the first half second they're riding.
SPEAKER_06:All right, 21 seconds. Take me to Chanel.
SPEAKER_01:Hello from Waymo. As we end going, just give us one minute to come. Already almost got into a car accident.
SPEAKER_07:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_06:Alrighty.
SPEAKER_07:I am never doing this again.
SPEAKER_06:So funny, I I did watch this, but I must have had my volume down, and I didn't hear the well, I saw the video and I'm like, didn't look that bad. I didn't hear the horn.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah, the horn gives it away, and you're and then when the camera pans back there, so for our audio listeners, these people are in a Waymo in the back. They're they're you know, the car is parked on the right side of the street, so they get in, they hit start ride, and there's a car coming behind them, and this Waymo just pulls right out in front of him, and that driver lays on the horn. Yeah. And I mean, almost almost immediate collision, uh, you know, at two seconds into the ride.
SPEAKER_06:For sure. Yeah, it's uh God, that I mean the Waymo just kept going.
SPEAKER_07:I don't understand that.
SPEAKER_06:Like, even that's a simple thing.
SPEAKER_07:Like you saw all those sensors, all those cameras they have, everything you would think.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. I mean, even my even my own car, I have a mirror sensor that detects it. Yeah, it it it's it'd have thrown it. It would have said, Well, what the fuck are you doing?
SPEAKER_07:Exactly. Yeah, yeah. It would have been mine would have been beeping away.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, obviously it wasn't like if a driver was there, that probably would have been a blind spot. But like, who doesn't look first in your mirror and like, okay, it's clear? Waymo's just like, fuck you. They got brakes.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Oh my God, that was terrible.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, that that yeah, that was that was one of the closer closest calls I think we've seen.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. I also they were right there. Gridwise had sent out an email today. I'm sure you got it, but um about the God fuck, what was it again? Hold on. It was something with Oh, the 2026 Autonomous Vehicle Impact Report. So I haven't really read it and looked at it. Um, but it's something that I want to look at and just see it. It's probably in regards to like how much money we're losing and so on and so forth. But um people are watching and and they're taking uh they're taking notes with all that.
SPEAKER_07:Definitely.
SPEAKER_06:Uh Lyft works on teen rides. I God, Larry. Speaking of shit that I swear we talked about, I swear this was already thing. And I had to double check on the date, and it literally was posted on the 27th of this year.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, no, I don't ever I don't think Air Lyft's ever had the teen ride thing.
SPEAKER_06:Okay, well, here we go.
SPEAKER_07:Uber, Uber, but not Lyft.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, similar to Uber's program. It will match teen, will match passengers with drivers who have high ratings. There will be a pin off the uh you have to have a pin. I'm not saying that word, so fuck it up. Uh will be turned on by default to confirm the user gets in the right car. Another safety measure, riders will automatically be prompted to begin audio recording. So clearly they don't have to, but they'll they'll be prompted, which why isn't that automatic? And why is the teen it responsible for that? Instead of uh kids, they're they're not gonna do it. They're not gonna do it. The parents would. Parents will get a link to track their teens, trips in real time, receive updates at pick up and drop off, and have the option of community communicating directly with the driver. And then, of course, lift teen will be mat will match teens with drivers who meet the highest standards on the platform and offer transparency. Oh, that word. We love that. That's the new journey. That's the journeys of transparency as it's right for parents every step of the way. Um, the feature which has not been previously reported was included in code behind the latest version. Um, so somebody sniffed it out. Um, but yeah, kind of the same thing.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I'm surprised it took them this long. I really am.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. What the fuck? What are they even doing? Like, they're not doing anything. You know, we always talk about they're not doing food, they're not like what are actually are you doing? Like, this should have been out the day after Uber announced it.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah, for sure. And it's taken a while.
SPEAKER_06:And traveler, no kids ever. Yeah, kids are a pain in the ass. Except if you're on a school bus. Obviously, I can't say no kids.
SPEAKER_07:Exactly. Guy who drives all the kids.
SPEAKER_06:Right, all the kids, all the time. Damn kids.
SPEAKER_07:Kids and old people. You just don't want anybody in the middle. You want them old, you want them young.
SPEAKER_06:Nobody in the middle. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah, exactly. Uh, all right. Well, this is a perfect opportunity to talk about the storm because you're involved in it right now.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah. So uh this story is talking about how DoorDash uh they went they shut down their services in at least five states um as this you know winter storm fern has crossed the country. And it says, you know, parts of other states, and definitely Kentucky was one of them because I brought up DoorDash the other day and it says service is shut down in your area. So they shut it down for a while. I don't know if it's still down or not. I have not looked today, but yeah, a bunch of the states that were hit you know pretty hard. Uh let's see, I'm trying to says um New York, Tennessee, Texas, Oklahoma, and New Jersey. Those are are some of the states where it's been shut down. Um and even you know, even where it is uh open, you know, there have been humongous delays, which of course can be expected because you know, these people who are delivering DoorDash, they're they're just human, they're trying to get through the snow and the ice and everything, like everything else. So you gotta give them some grace. I know in some places they're you know adding on. It says uh it says here that um DoorDash was adding on, I think it said two dollars that is a storm fee.
SPEAKER_06:Well, for customers.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and I says yeah, says uh DoorDash was imposing a two-dollar weather impact fee that goes directly to the dashers during the storm.
SPEAKER_06:Well, so people were fussy about that, but it's just like a surge. Uh yeah, it's just surge pricing. Like if you take an Uber before, if it's shitty weather or they're busy, it's a surge price. And two bucks is frickin' nothing to pay to get your fucking burrito when it's like an ice storm.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, and these people are you know, they're they're taking extra risk of damaging their car or getting hurt during this kind of weather. And even if they're a great driver, you have to worry about the other idiots on the road who don't know how to drive in the snow and ice, and they're flying around like you know, it's nothing. And uh, next thing you know, they're rear-ending somebody or you know, knocking you into a ditch or something like that. So yeah, you know, I'm I it wasn't worth it for me to go out during this storm. There and I was looking, it wasn't really surging that much on anything. And even if it was, like I said, our neighborhood we got close to half an inch ice, and our our neighborhood, they do not plow. We're out on the outskirts of town, and then it's just been a solid sheet of ice because it's it's barely got up to I think 30 it got up to 32, I think, yesterday, but most it's been getting down, you know, in the single digits at night, so all that stuff is freezing back up.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, we haven't had been able to use salt in two weeks.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, maybe you're like, oh, I'll put some salt out of there. Like, salt doesn't do any good when it's 10 degrees.
SPEAKER_06:No, it just sits there. Um shit, what was I gonna say? Oh, I don't understand drivers that take the risk. Even if your jobs it's a full-time thing, like you kind of should set a little bit of money aside for you know a rainy day or a snow day. Um, just because I don't know. Like, I don't, I don't I mean, right now everything's still icy, but everything's plowed at least, so you may not be getting stuck. I don't mind working through that because if you just keep your distance and so on and so forth. I don't think the risk is as high because I mean we all got to live, right? But at some point, you gotta be like when it's like coming down and it's just like they're warning people and stuff, like just stay off the road, dude. Like it's not worth it.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, try to try to put some away uh so you don't have to work on days like this. And you know, people knew about this storm. It's not like something that just popped up and out of the blue, people knew to prepare, they knew to get food. There's no reason that they don't even be ordering for you know fast food during uh uh snow begging. Right.
SPEAKER_06:Well, I mean, they're welcome to. If people are willing to do it, it's fine, but um just if you're if you're like I just don't it's not worth the risk, especially if you're full-time and you just fuck your car, like for what? For you made okay, you your goal is$150 a day. Well, if you would have signed$25 a week away, yeah, you could have saved a day, you know what I mean? Um I don't know.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I just don't think it's worth the risk either.
SPEAKER_06:No. Uh all right. Are we done with that one? Yeah. All right, Amazon. We just talked about that. Um, I'm not gonna go over it. They're closing the Amazon Go, the fresh stores are gonna shift focus on grocery delivery and Whole Foods. I I really do wish and and maybe they do, but like you can't order a gallon of milk on Amazon, you know, and I think that's where the fresh stores were. You could go in and get milk. And and again, maybe that new store, I don't know what did they call it. I don't even know if I got the name. No, I don't know. I just put new building concept, but yeah, uh, maybe that's that's the point. It's gonna be like a my uh like a Kroger or well though no, not like a Kroger, because Kroger doesn't have anything else but groceries, right? Uh Meyer is a a full store. You can get anything there.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, no, Kroger does not have sporting goods and unclean. Yeah, you all that stuff. So I'm gonna have like a pet food aisle, but that's but no, not like Meyer.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, so I think that's what they're thinking. But again, I would love if I could order, if I could order my groceries like I do at Walmart and it was cheaper and I got delivered, I would do it. So I'm I'm maybe that's what they're gonna do. They're gonna offer delivery from that grocery store at Orland Park, but we shall see.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I mean, Amazon, what did they announce today? 16,000 they're laying off?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, corporate. I'm like, how the fuck do you have 16,000 corporate? Like, that could be like a secretary too or a receptionist, but that's considered corporate.
SPEAKER_07:I saw UPS announced 30,000 layoff, dude.
SPEAKER_06:So I was on TikTok today speaking of that, and some random like guy posted a video like, hey, Amazon, deliver your own shit. Like that was the whole video, and I had to comment. I was like, hey, yeah, they are, and they're laying off 30,000 people. I hope you're not one of them. I just had to do it. I'm like, read the room, bro. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Uh what's up?
SPEAKER_07:I said it's it's getting, you know, uh, you hate to hear people losing their jobs. Oh, no, it just makes it tough.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I I mean I wasn't teasing him, but I'm like, fucking don't post a I guess maybe he could have put it it was old. I don't know. TikTok's all fucked up since the new owner, so the algorithm's all wild.
SPEAKER_07:I kept seeing that like I I would I was watching the other day and like would see some videos, and this never happens. And then like I log in later that day and see the same videos. So yeah, never happened.
SPEAKER_06:Never yeah, I don't know. It's all messed up. I don't know how it like, unless you're actually physically going in and changing things, like it's just you just bought it. Like, why is things all fucked up now?
SPEAKER_07:Exactly. They gotta put their own touch on it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, all right. This last thing I think we'll do this video or this picture, uh uh for the audio listeners, there's a lot of I mean, a lot of snow, maybe seven inches. Yes, not a ton.
SPEAKER_07:So the caption says I am not walking in 40 centimeters of snow, which is 15 inches of snow.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, well, okay.
SPEAKER_07:First of all, 15.75, so really 16 inches of snow.
SPEAKER_06:This must be a man talking because you know he's exaggerating on the length. Um, does not look like 15 inches, but um, so basically he wasn't gonna deliver it. Uh, a little update. He did leave it right at the side of the road, which I what do you think uh distance-wise is from the front door? Maybe 50 feet? Yeah, maybe okay, and he decided he didn't want to walk through that. Looks like this was posted 13 days ago. He did not get a contract violation. There was no tip to start with, and I actually drove by the house and it's still the only one in the street that it's not shoveled, and you can see how he walked in the snow to grab the food. So he took a no-tip order. Okay. But what are your thoughts on this? I just do it. Like I'm already there. I'm not gonna leave it in the street.
SPEAKER_07:No, I'm not gonna leave it in the street either. Uh, but I I mean, I would hope though, if I was if I was the the customer ordering this, I would I would make a walkway for them.
SPEAKER_06:But well, no, I mean that's the obvious thing, right?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, but yeah, if I if I'm ordering it, yeah, I'm I'm not gonna leave it in the street like that.
SPEAKER_06:I'm just gonna suck it up. I mean, I did have a grocery one. I don't know if it was, I think it was last weekend, or maybe I don't know. There was snow and they did not shovel. Yeah, and there was probably six inches in their drive. And I I bitched about it and mumbled to myself, like, come on, motherfuckers. But then I think, well, maybe they're elderly.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, you never you don't know their situation. If if I'm gonna be out delivering food in weather like that, and you know it's not a surprise, you don't you don't get halfway through and all of a sudden there's snow on the ground. Right. You gotta dress for it. You gotta have, you know, you gotta have some coveralls or something on and some boots, and you because you're gonna be walking in snow. Yeah, it's just going to. So yeah, you should be prepared for it if you're gonna be out working in that. So yeah, you need to be ready to walk that thing up to the door.
SPEAKER_06:I mean, honestly, like you're you're almost guaranteed to get a bad rate. I mean, and maybe you don't care about that, but you took a no-tip order, so fuck you to begin with. Like, you what are you complaining about? You took a no-tip order. I mean, I I don't know. I just I just couldn't in good conscience leave leave neither. Now I might leave an Amazon box there. But even so, if there's if it's I would not leave it that it's gonna get hit by the plow. Like, I mean right, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I wouldn't say I can just air mail it from there.
SPEAKER_06:Well, or that I'd put it on the back of the car. I'd at least walk to the back of the car. But yeah, if it's food, groceries, or like hot food, like subs like that, I just I just couldn't.
SPEAKER_07:Walk it, walk it to the I mean, like I said, you gotta be prepared. You gotta be prepared. You know you're gonna be in snow. There's a lot of snow out. You I mean, you don't know if all the restaurants you're picking up from are gonna have their their parking lots plowed. You gotta be ready to walk in the snow if that's what you're gonna do. So be dressed for it and walk it to the door.
SPEAKER_06:Well, even being prepared is just I wear jeans and shoes that are not tennis shoes, and that I wouldn't say they're winter boots, they're slip-ons, but uh they're waterproof at least. So I'll walk through it, I'll bounce them off on the ground and get in my car, and my feet'll it'll melt the rest and life goes on.
SPEAKER_07:Like yeah, go on with your day.
SPEAKER_06:Right. It's not like he's gotta like swim in that 40 centimeters of snow to get there.
SPEAKER_07:And yeah, you don't have to use snow angels.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, every every foot you drop down and do a snow angel. Like, come on, guys, like ridiculous. But get with it. Some people are stupid and they're babies, and I don't I don't understand it, but yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I think they just like to post stuff to get reactions.
SPEAKER_06:Internet clout. So uh all right, I'm gonna skip the last one. Uh maybe we'll talk. I got a few more on the Patreon. Gonna talk about some scammers. Uh, looks like Grubhub data breach. Um, that's gonna be at 8 10 p.m., which is in about 11 minutes. You can go to patreon.com slash the gig econ podcast. Sign up for a seven-day free trial. And if you like it, great. If not, uh you can cancel. So um anything else, Larry? You're gonna tr or try to get out this weekend? Probably not. Isaacedon.
SPEAKER_07:Uh uh, actually, I'm going to uh St. Louis. Oh, that's right. That's right, that's right, that's right. Son's having surgery on Monday, so uh I'll be bringing him back here Monday night, and he'll be rehabbing up here in the uh in the uh man cave for about three weeks.
SPEAKER_06:Very cool. Well, I don't know what I'm doing. Um, there's a possible field trip that I might get on Saturday, which is like nine hours, so I'm like, that's a good payday for sitting around doing nothing. Um, but uh if I don't get that, then I definitely be out doing some gig work.
SPEAKER_07:So alrighty.
SPEAKER_06:All right, as always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit.
SPEAKER_07:See you on the road.
SPEAKER_06:All right, have a great evening. Stay warm.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, ready to be safe out there. Stay warm.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, for sure.
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