Uber And DoorDash Built A Business Around Subscription Addiction | Ep 301

We track how gig platforms chase predictable revenue through subscriptions and premium customers while drivers still eat the chaos of gas prices, bad estimates, and the algorithm. We also swap stories that sound funny at first, then land on the same point: trust and safety break fast when platforms and people cut corners. 

• Uber One, DashPass, and Instacart subscriptions are driving earnings despite inflation 
• Why “big spenders” matter more to the platforms than price-sensitive users 
• A balloon delivery fail that turns into a real lesson on wind, photos, and communication 
• A hostile “private drive” sign and what drivers should do when access looks risky 
• Amazon’s 30-minute delivery rollout, fees, and whether it can undercut food delivery apps 
• A Walmart Spark shoplifting case and how fast greed leads to getting caught 
• Spark mileage estimates not matching reality and why screenshots matter 
• Waymo rider puke, how to protect your car’s paint, and why speed matters 
• DoorDash Reservations and how credits keep customers inside the ecosystem 
• Drift air freshener subscription and why riders notice the car smell 
• Waymo flood recall and why water is hard for humans and robots 
• Uber’s rental car delivery idea and the hidden costs of getting back home 
• DoorDash account sharing, fake profiles, and why reporting protects everyone 
• A Lyft pickup confrontation and the simplest rule for avoiding escalation 

Transcript

Welcome And The Week’s Theme

SPEAKER_04 0:18

What the hell?

SPEAKER_02 0:20

There we go.

SPEAKER_04 0:23

Hi guys, welcome to the Gig Economy Podcast. Uh, episode 301. Hope you all are doing good. We're gonna talk about Uber Doordas chase wealthier customers while drivers fight the algorithm. You know, we gotta get that little click baby. Click baby. Clickbaity. Oh, we were talking about baby quip. There's the connection. There it is. Uh the clickbaity title. So uh God, slow frickin' news week, y'all. Like slow, slow, slow. So uh bear with us. But how's it going, Larry? Nice to see you.

SPEAKER_02 1:00

Yeah, good to see you as well. Yeah, it's going good. Um did a little gig work over the weekend, but nothing much, nothing really to speak about. But yeah, looking forward to talking over the little bit of news we were able to find this week.

Subscriptions And The Wealthy Customer Play

SPEAKER_04 1:14

Yeah, that's right. No gig work for me either. Uh, lots of stuff going on. Uh, my daughter's graduating this Thursday or well a week from tomorrow. So just busy time at the house. Hopefully, I'll get out this weekend, but yeah, nothing for me. So we're gonna jump right into gig economy in the news. Larry, uh, just like we were talking about, Uber and Doordas chase wealthier customers, um, and and let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

Yeah, so uh, you know, prices are going up, you know, inflation's hitting everybody, gas is way up, uh, everybody's uh you know having trouble affording things, but yet uh three of the biggest you know gig apps that are out there, Uber, Doordash, and Instacart, all uh beat their quarter one earnings. And um that is due to their subscription services. So Uber One, which is the you know subscription you can get for I think it's$96 a year. Uber has uh 50 million Uber One paid users. Damn. And they it says they they that uh accounts for close to half of Uber's rise. Yeah. Dash Pass signups, which is you know the subscription for DoorDash. Also their signups uh grew quite a bit in quarter one. Um all three of their stocks rose. So yeah, so some of these companies that are they're having trouble out there uh you know with this economy, but but not these three. You know, the uh Dara, uh you know, Uber CEO, he he describes Uber's, you know, their strategy as kind of a barbell. I said one one end of the barbell serves you know people who are very price conscious, but the other end serves the really big spenders, and the big spenders carry the low. But says uh Uber says that you know their big spender customers are 3.5 times more profitable than uh people who don't use the uh subscription service. Uh but it says low cost and and paid plans together pull in more than 25% of new Uber rides. So yeah, DoorDash orders rose up 27% year over year from a year ago. Uh Uber Eats posted a 34% jump in sales and a 28% rise in in uh bookings. Um yeah, they're saying that you know they definitely see that not all consumers are are under the price pressure. Some of the people are still earning very well and doing very well and you know are willing to spend their money. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:43

It makes sense, you know. What you know, we talk about the gas prices and like everyone's oh, where does the economy so bad? I mean, but there's people out there that it's it's not affecting them, you know what I mean? And you know, you kind of you you go off what the news says and what this TikToker says and stuff like that, and it's good to just like anything, not get wrapped up in all that stuff. But going back to the Uber One, every time I hear people say they talk about um Uber One, they hate it. You know what I mean, especially on the food end of it.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

Yeah, but yeah, they have 50 million of them that are hating it, and so that's a lot of money.

SPEAKER_04 4:19

Yeah, it is. I mean, 50 million, and it's what, like uh 96 a year.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

I it's 4.8 billion, is what that comes up to. Uh put it in the yeah, I put it in, I put it in the calculator.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

Thank you for doing the math.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Yeah, well, the calculator did the math.

SPEAKER_04 4:34

Well, I mean, attempting it. I was I was gonna try to do it in my head, and I was like, nah, I'm not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_02 4:40

Yeah, yeah.$96 times$50 million,$4.8 billion.

SPEAKER_04 4:45

So that's just like just for the subscription, like not even like them even spending anything inside the app.

SPEAKER_02 4:52

It's exactly that's that's just what they're making from that subscription. That's yeah, that's a that's a lot of cheese, man.

SPEAKER_04 5:00

That's bonkers. That's bonkers.

SPEAKER_02 5:02

But wild to wild to think about, but yeah, you know, so we we we do. We talk about uh, you know, people like gig workers. I mean, gas goes up, that hits our bottom line, you know. Right, it just takes right off the top of our profit when the gas goes up like that. But there are people, like you said, you know, people that that are really high earners or are doing well. It it doesn't really put a dent in their lifestyle that much, they don't really change, change too much.

SPEAKER_04 5:29

I mean, it definitely re puts a dent like a small tiny little scratch, and it does lower whatever they're making, but it's not so much that it it that they notice it as much.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

Yeah, they don't have to they just don't have to adjust as much.

SPEAKER_04 5:44

I mean, my my life, you know, I feel like I'm pretty blessed, but I I'm still taking some action. Like yesterday, my wife, I had the day off from work, it was her birthday, so we cruised around town. We took my car, you know, my electric car, you know. Even though she drives a Toyota, it's just like, why not, right? If we're gonna drive around town, sure, gas jumped up to five bucks here again. Um this doesn't make sense. I'm gonna try to save where I can, but um, yeah, I mean, it just it doesn't affect people as much. Um, shit. I had a point another point I was gonna say, but I I kind of forgot.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

But think about that. I I can see people justifying it too. They're like, hey, you know, gas, gas has gone up. It's cheaper for me to order DoorDash now than it is to go get my own food. I mean go get my own groceries, you know.

SPEAKER_04 6:34

I yeah, I know what I was gonna say. I feel bad for the lawn care guys, especially the company I used to work for, the fertilizer. Because the fertilizer skyrocketed too, because it when oil oil goes up, like they need for fertilizer. It affects a lot of stuff, and you know, they're they're driving those big F550s, and you know, they get like four miles to the gallon, and it's just like five bucks, five bucks, like fuck. That's yeah, wild.

SPEAKER_02 7:01

So yeah, yeah, you don't think about that. Yeah, you know, people mowing yards, and you know, just the cost of the gas for the for the mowers and stuff, you know, when it goes up that much, you know, that puts a that puts a dent in them.

The Balloon Delivery Photo Gone Wrong

SPEAKER_04 7:12

The problem with those mowing guys, too, is the the the margins on mowing, just the mowing, are rail thin already. Like it's so labor intensive. So when you have an expense that spikes, they're almost if if they don't have something in their contract that says they can you know increase for fuel or whatever, they're they're probably losing money. Yeah. Which is which is unfortunate. But um, moving on, DoorDash. I I can't believe this actually happened. Uh, we're gonna watch a video. So this guy was delivering some flowers and he took the fucking delivery photo. The flowers, I'm or the flowers, the balloon. Did I say flowers right from the beginning? Yeah, uh, the balloons, the balloons uh literally get launch, and he takes the delivery photo of the balloons in the air. And I I gotta give it to him. Like, you know what? You didn't get the door in the picture, but you you obviously attempted it. So uh we will watch this video. It's about 30 seconds. Oh my gosh. Hang on, I didn't there we go. But if you go into the comments, you can see the picture. I I'm such a dick wad, I didn't take the picture of him. Um, but he does take the picture of them floating up. But obviously, if you're listening to the audio podcast, you wouldn't hear that anyways. But yeah, I mean that's like I feel bad for him. I don't even know what he said, like it's a big ceramic pot, and like he said it, it felt like he kind of tucked it in, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

Well, and look, yeah, it had one of you know, had one of those obviously some kind of little weighted thing on the end of it, but not heavy enough because it was windy, it was windy. Those you know, those balloons were blowing pretty good. I think I I think that railing right there, I think I would have wrapped it around the railing or something, maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 9:33

Well, Larry, you and I are old men, and we've had we've dealt with balloons before, and there's no way in hell I'm just setting that down. I'm gonna tie the shit out of that thing. Um, by the way, that camera, how nice was that freaking camera?

SPEAKER_02 9:47

Yeah, yeah. That was I don't know what it was, but yeah, that was the guy could add a food chrome on his mouth, and I think the camera would have picked it up.

SPEAKER_04 9:54

It was so clear, but yeah, just very clear. Just a tip. Yeah, if you're delivering balloons, if they're not there, or um, I I think I would even try to knock, even if it was no contact, if it being that windy out, like I just wouldn't feel comfortable.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Or maybe try to say, you know, I just didn't want them to blow away.

The Amazon Driveway Sign From Hell

SPEAKER_04 10:12

Yeah, or maybe communicate with them on the way and say, hey, you know, this this is going on, and blah, blah, blah. People don't ever think about that. Well, especially drivers, but you know, customers too. They just think they live we live in this fantasy world where everything can be perfect and it gets delivered great, and weather doesn't play a factor, and the raccoon around the corner trying to get into the food doesn't play into effect, but it definitely does. So it does be careful out there. All right, Larry, talking about this awesome photo.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Yeah, so this is uh yeah, this is a uh uh warning sign, I guess, for Amazon drivers who I guess if I think if you had this kind of attitude, man, you don't need to be getting stuff delivered to you. Anyway, this says uh big big sign, big wooden sign, says Amazon driver, private drive, stop sticks ahead, tires will be flattened, you will be arrested.

SPEAKER_04 11:09

Now, my opinion on this is this guy doesn't get stuff delivered, and these drivers keep accidentally turning down his drive.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

Maybe, but uh the other picture that went with it, I should have included it. It's a it's a pretty long driveway. Okay. Yeah. The house is pretty good ways away. Uh, but if I was delivering to something, I I mean I I guess you just drop it off right there at the sign and and call it good.

SPEAKER_04 11:34

Yeah, I I wonder how that works when you when you're looking at stuff like this and you know, stop sticks ahead, blah, blah, blah, tires will be flying. Like, does this guy get charged for something like this? Like, if you accidentally, because like I get when you pull in someone's driveway, like, what is the legalities actually of is that considered like an easement going up? Like, what I mean, if you have if you accidentally drive in someone's driveway and it it's an accident, all of a sudden this guy pops your tires, like what what the hell?

SPEAKER_02 12:05

Yeah, like I said, this is really on driveway, though. Like you have you would have to go way up this driveway to get to this point. Like, if it's just a short driveway, like me and you have, yeah, I don't think you put stop sticks in there and and I think you could get in trouble if somebody accidentally, you know, was turned around or something and and pop their tire in there. But I mean he he's warning them, you know, he you can't miss this sign, it's a big sign.

SPEAKER_04 12:28

But I just wondered, just and I know you don't know, but just kind of rhetorical, like what is what is a driveway considered? Do you once you pass the sidewalk of like like I have just a small driveway.

SPEAKER_02 12:39

If I pass the sidewalk, am I technically on that person's property now, or am I just, you know, am I yeah, I think because you know, there there is easement there on properties for you know gas lines and then different things like that. But yeah, if you're up in somebody's driveway up by their house, I mean I don't think you have any uh I don't think you have much pool there. Now, as far as it's saying you you will be arrested, yeah. I think that's BS. Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:08

But nothing says hillbilly when you spray paint, although it wasn't horrible. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

It wasn't a horrible lot that we've seen.

SPEAKER_04 13:16

Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't horrible, but I was saying nothing.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

Somebody does have an anger problem or a people problem or something.

SPEAKER_04 13:23

Yeah, I was like, nothing says hillbilly as a spray painted uh sign on a piece of plywood, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:29

I mean, if it gets you, maybe he has, you know, maybe he's laid down a bunch of paid for a bunch of gravel several times and people keep coming up there and messing it up. And yeah, I who knows it. There you would think there's something behind the this thing, you know, behind the behind the scenes or some backstory to this. He didn't you don't think somebody just woke up someday and like, all right, don't put the sign on there, motherfuckers. Right.

SPEAKER_04 13:52

I think a lot of it, you know, and it's gotten better as GPS technology's gotten better, but a lot of it, like for whatever reason, the GPS like maybe the drivers are so close. And I've I've freaking done this because I I a lot of times I'm not even looking at addresses because the GPS is so good, but sometimes it floats and I'll pull in the wrong driveway, and it was the driveway right next to it.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

Oh, yeah, yeah. I think that's happened to all of us, you know. Yeah, pulling the wrong driveway.

SPEAKER_04 14:18

Yeah, you don't it doesn't have much in the city, but in the country a lot of times, because you know, you'll have like a house up in the front with a driveway, and then right next is the other one, like maybe this one where it's really long and it goes all the way back. Um, I don't know. The guy needs to get a grip, though. That's that's a little much.

Patreon Support And Shoutouts

SPEAKER_02 14:34

That's a little harsh.

Amazon’s 30 Minute Delivery Push

SPEAKER_04 14:35

A little harsh. So uh go to patreon.com slash the GiggyCon Podcast. I'd love for you to join the show. We podcast uh on the Patreon ever after every show at 8 10 p.m. Uh, you get an extra podcast a week. Uh on your third month, you get an exclusive piece of piece of merch. Uh supports the show, which really helps pay the bills, which uh do increase. Can I say that our bills have increased because of the the fuel prices? Definitely. Uh I want to mention the people that always support us, and we can't thank them enough. Samson, Bud, Omar, Frank, Tom, Jim, Miguel, Linda, Jerry, Faith, Metal Kickass, and Anna. Appreciate you guys so much. Like I said, go to patreon.com/slash the gig econ podcast. All right. Um, so Amazon launches their 30-minute service. Now, I think we talked about this, but I think it's finally live across multiple cities. Looks like Atlanta, Dallas, Fort Worth, Philadelphia, Seattle, and live in parts of other cities, included Austin, Denver, Orlando, and Phoenix. So yeah, this is just um a 30-minute service, uh, which you still have to pay for. Um, but it's uh for subscribers, it's four bucks, and not subscribers, it's fourteen bucks. Um, and then smaller orders, of course, will charge another two bucks if you're a member or four bucks uh if you're not a member. So you'll find out when you have it. It says it'll um you'll see a 30-minute delivery option in the banner of both the Amazon app and the web page. So yeah, I guess uh this is you know, they're trying to compete with Walmart because Walmart kind of has this. Um, not in 30 minutes. If you want it then, you do have to pay, even though that were a member. Yeah, I think you have to pay like 10 bucks if you want it like now. Um, but if you wait three hours, typically you can get it for free uh just with your membership. But uh Walmart currently offers, like I said, express deliveries that reach customers in less than two hours, but again, you're gonna have to pay as well as his own drone delivery service for deliveries in 30 minutes. So it said in Amazon's most recent quarter, their online store sales of 64.2 billion. That's a B, y'all. Yeah. Up 12 up 12% year over year. I mean, it they're just killing it. You just can't beat it. You know what I mean? The prices are good, the the delivery is good. Faith says she's done about 12 of those deliveries in a week. Oh, is that the one you've been talking about recently? Then I remember I try to pay attention to the chat, but there's times where I don't. But I remember you talking about this. So average tip for me is three dollars per delivery. So this you're getting tipped on these? That's interesting. So these are the these aren't just food, right? This is the actual what we were just talking about. Like if you eat a pair of AirPods, you're getting tipped on those deliveries. That's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

Yeah, I never saw that before.

SPEAKER_04 17:39

I mean, is it it must be giving the customer an option to tip when they check out, which I've never had. Okay, yes, there's an Amazon now facility close to me. Okay, that's what she was talking about. So that that is interesting. They're kind of they're kind of treating it like um a Whole Foods order, then, because I know when you order Whole Foods, which I haven't, but there's tips on all those if you if if the customer wants to tip. Oh, mostly snacks. Who's gonna fucking pay four bucks?

SPEAKER_02 18:07

Who's got the munchies, man? He needs his snacks. I mean, here you go. He needs some Cheetos right then.

SPEAKER_04 18:13

We're talking about the economy. This person it it it still costs as a prime member four bucks to get it delivered in a half hour. I mean, hey. Although I guess I guess it's probably cheaper than DoorDash, because if you're are if you're already a prime member and you're and you only have to pay four bucks plus, it's gonna be cheap on the Amazon app to buy the Cheetos. It's not like DoorDash where they raise the prices. I guess it wouldn't be that bad. It'd be cheaper than DoorDash or Uber Eats.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

Yeah, and she said you know, weed weed is legal there. So is that really a thing?

SPEAKER_04 18:45

Does weed really like that's always been a joke?

SPEAKER_02 18:49

No, there's there's truth to that.

SPEAKER_04 18:51

Okay, I just want to clarify because like uh I don't know. I uh so I've heard. So yeah, I mean I've used cannabis back in the day, and I think I guess it never really made me. I guess you have to really bake yourself or something because I've never really got the munchies.

SPEAKER_02 19:06

So oh goodness.

SPEAKER_04 19:08

But yeah, face is definitely competing with DoorDash is true. It's gotta be cheaper. I mean, even with the four bucks. I mean, I don't think it would be if you were a non-Prime member, because of what what did they say? It was like 14 bucks.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:19

Although it did say if it was a small order, it was an additional two. So now you're paying six bucks plus a tip. Unless you order a case of Cheetos, which I'm not gonna judge you. Cheetos are good.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

They are cheap. They are good.

Spark Driver Arrested For Shoplifting

SPEAKER_04 19:34

All right, moving on, Larry. Walmart spark delivery driver arrested in a shoplifting scheme. So this is Yeah, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

So this one, this one uh hit close to home. Uh oh. One of our members uh sent this to us. And uh Bowling Green police arrested a Walmart spark delivery driver accused of shoplifting during shopping trips for customers. They arrested 27-year-old Aletha Hatfield Goodnight after an investigation into multiple thefts. So she was she was loading up her cart with their stuff and her stuff, and she would scan their stuff, but just put her stuff in the bag without scanning it. Said uh Walmart's Walmart's loss of prevention reported 15 separate incidents at both the Bowling Green and Walmart locations. She was booked in the Warren County Regional Jail and charged with theft by unlawful taking, shoplifting, a thousand dollars or more, but less than 10,000. So yeah, this is my hometown.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

This is it. We've talked about this to the ends of the earth. We do how easy it is.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:44

Now I wonder how she got caught.

SPEAKER_02 20:46

Like I wonder I mean, apparently I mean, they s had her on apparently probably on tape 15 times. So somebody probably saw something. They maybe they started going back. I don't know if they can track like when you shopped or something, but uh so when you check out, you're not scanning anything. Right. Well, that's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:07

You're just bagging. So it would have to have been caught like in the store. Well, obviously, somebody saw something. All it needs is one little tip, and then they're like, okay, they got cameras everywhere. They got cameras everywhere. Let's follow this person. Yeah. And and and we're gonna see what she does. But yeah, because it's I mean, it would be easy to do. She probably got greedy, that's the problem. She probably started doing it every order instead of like once a week. Spacing it out. Yeah, spacing it out.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Yeah, that's how you get caught, you get greedy. But yeah, one of our one of our telegram chat members sent this, uh posted it in the chat, and they're like, Hey, popularity, do you know this person? And I'm like, What? And I'm like, Oh my goodness, this right here in right here in Bowling.

SPEAKER_04 21:54

Oh, the picture, yeah. She does look like a crackhead. Why the mug shots are frickin' hilarious? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

Yes, they are.

SPEAKER_04 22:01

I want to know. Well, they're probably not going to tell you how how she got caught. But yeah, they just probably not. I mean, they I bet you they can look at every position in that store. Like I bet everything is covered by some sort of camera.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Yeah. I mean, if you just look up at the ceiling and and realize how many cameras there are. Yeah, and they I I know they're they're overlapping. They're not leaving any place uh that's not covered by camera.

SPEAKER_04 22:28

Yeah. How do you think they could? I mean, I'm thinking like, how could they stop that? They would they could probably stop it a lot easier if they made us scan it a second time at the register, because then you would see it, right? That would be easy. I mean, that those registers are touchy. Like if you if you forget or you just go past it without scanning, it flags that you know the camera catches it, and then they have to come over and override it. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, I moved this over, I wasn't thinking.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

Right.

SPEAKER_04 23:02

Um, but I think that would be the only way, but that would slow us way down.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

Yeah, for sure. But um Yeah, you wonder how often this happens. Because yeah, we we used to talk about it all the time. Like, yeah, it's like I just yeah, I don't see how how this doesn't happen all the time. And maybe maybe it you know, maybe it happens I think it happens every day. Yeah, it's just like I said, she probably got greedy, probably started doing it you know every time, probably taking you know more things, you know. If you flipped out one something small every time or something, you know, I think your odds. Not that we're advocating that by any means.

SPEAKER_04 23:38

I've done it one time, not on purpose, and and you know, them, and this is why I think well they brought it, but let me let me go back. So I had before when we would go to the o our own checkout, like or not our own, when we would go to the the public checkout.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Yeah, the private checkout.

SPEAKER_04 23:55

I would bag, and if I grabbed a soda or snack, after I bagged, I would take it out, scan it, pay for it, and walk out. Well, then they moved us over to a place where you couldn't do that. Can't do that, you just have to scan it, and that's fine, whatever. But as I said, either last week or the week before, they've moved us back, they've shut that down for some reason. I don't know why. So now we're back in the public. But I did. I forgot I had a uh an energy drink and it I missed it. I I had put groceries that I bagged, and I usually put it in the little where the kid goes, and I missed it. Do I get did I go back and pay for it? Absolutely not. I said, fuck you, it's fine. I didn't do it on purpose, and and you're a billion-dollar company, you can afford to uh lose one soda, but I would never do it on purpose. That's dangerous. The spark means too much to me. I mean, even if I was shady, the spark job means too much to me to get deactivated from.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

Yeah, it's not worth it over a free soda.

Spark Mileage Estimates That Do Not Match

SPEAKER_04 24:53

It's not worth it. So um, speaking of kind of my moving into my next topic, uh, I saw a post on uh Reddit talking about miles not matching up. So this person took a trip that was, and this was on Spark, uh$22 for 10 miles, which was good. Ends up being 50 miles. So I chat with support and tell them I do not like being misled, especially right now with the gas prices high as they are. And the response was I will make note of it and they may compensate you, but I can't promise anything. Anyone else miles not matching up? So I'm guessing this custom or this driver is new. Uh Walmart does bird's eye view. That's how most of them do it. Because this is the way you can't cheat the system, especially before when Uber, I think Uber kind of did the same thing, right? Because, and I could be wrong, but they to keep you from taking a slow route, they did bird's eye view. Was that correct on Uber or am I wrong on that?

SPEAKER_02 25:51

You know, I'm not positive. Okay, I'm really not positive.

SPEAKER_04 25:55

Maybe not bird's eye on that, because that would that would be crazy. But I know that on Walmart, it's if you look at it, it's just a straight line. If you look at the picture they show you, it's just like a line from A to B. It doesn't turn or everything, so it's it does it on that, I guess. Yeah, and I assume, and you know, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that's what they do. And so I mean, five miles seems a little heavy on bird's eye to be out of the way. But that's a lot, that's a lot, unless it was five miles round trip if he's basing it on that. So I can see maybe two miles, but mine are never accurate what they say. I mean, but I just like you know, it's whatever.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Walmart's like, hey, our drone can get there in that amount of miles. I don't know why you can't.

SPEAKER_04 26:40

Yes, you know, get your four-wheel drive and yeah, and shut the fuck up before we do drones every time. That's right. But uh the next time I do a spark, I'll try to get a screenshot of what it shows, and it's just a straight line from the Walmart to wherever it is, it doesn't go like you know down the road. Yeah, so keep an eye on that. I mean, I guess if it is if it is truly doing five miles over just for the one-way trip, that that is something that definitely needs to be addressed. And you know, these companies will do this stuff, and until one of us get together and do we start going to Reddit and talking about it, and all of a sudden we got this huge issue that you know they need to correct, or it's a class action lawsuit.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

So yeah, I gotta call them out on X and Reddit and everywhere else.

X Feels Like Bots And TikTok Fatigue

SPEAKER_04 27:27

I don't even go to X anymore. I I used to be on there all the time. Hell, that's where I met Steve from Rideshare Rodeo. Uh, I met a lot of people, and then I don't know. It's 50% bots now, I think. Is it really? Seems like it. It's it's crazy that you know the apps, you know, something else is gonna come out. You know, we say that you can't find another social media app, but then TikTok came out and that was great. And I don't know, I don't just go to X anymore. So I don't think they brought back Vine, man.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

They brought back Vine, yes, like an actual app, yes, six second videos, six seconds.

SPEAKER_04 28:00

So that's like Snapchat basically. I mean, it's because it doesn't Snapchat.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

Vine was huge, man.

SPEAKER_04 28:06

Vine was huge, came out, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

And it was only six seconds back then, too. I think so, yeah. I think so. We never resurrected. I got I don't know where I saw it, but I was like, oh shit, I'm gonna download it.

SPEAKER_04 28:17

I should just to fuck around with it. Um can't do much in six seconds.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

So hey, gotta be clear, concise, efficient.

SPEAKER_04 28:24

Yeah, yeah. None of this four-minute god, I rangeable. This fucking TikTok is just killing me for patience. I mean, you got you got 10 seconds, I'll give you 10 seconds, and if I can tell, like this is gonna be a and then I look at the bar below and I'm like, absolutely not. Like, give me the hook right away, and then I might continue to watch. Like, let's hear the story.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

Yeah, any one of them that that has a thing that says, be sure and wait till the end. I'm scrolling, I'm not even I'm not even gonna try to looking at it.

SPEAKER_04 28:56

Well, if I I will I'll take the bar and I'll just take my finger modes exactly and go fast forward. And there's there's a couple of trends that they I know they're gonna be about 30 seconds because it's the song. I'll hold the screen to go two times just to like blah blah blah blah get to the end. Like I'll do that too. It's like I just don't have the patience anymore.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

Yeah, we we don't. It's crazy. All right, moving on to the TikTok world, we have no patience in the news.

SPEAKER_04 29:22

All right, Waymo in the news. This literally uh has a trigger warning. Uh this is trigger warning. So you know you've been a ride chair driver, and sometimes sometimes people get sick. Props to that fucking cameraman. Was that not great? He it was steady. Uh yeah, so for audio listeners, he this guy in a Waymo, he's just puking out the front window or the all down the side of the door. All down the side.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Yeah, which is what happens.

SPEAKER_04 30:08

If that happens, you go you need to go rinse that off right away. There's acidity in your in your stomach that will actually fuck up your paint if you leave that on there, or it'll take forever to get off.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

Yeah, I remember I remember that happened because people, you know, they think they're doing they think they're helping you out. So they're trying to throw up out the window. Right. Which, you know, it does help you out a little bit. As long as it doesn't go down in the window. There you go. You know, and you have to take the whole door panel off. But I had that happen one night. Somebody you went down the side of my car, you know, just down, you know how it goes all down the side of it. And it was like one o'clock in the morning, and I'm like, what am I gonna go? And I remember this was like this was like a year after I retired from the city. And I remember they had a garden hose hooked up to the outside in the back of City Hall. So I I put my car. I'm I mean I'm sitting right in front of a camera too. You know, yeah. And but I take that hose, man, wash my car down real quick. That's amazing. I never heard that. What a great thought. I I was like, man, I'm not letting this stuff ruin my paint. Cause yeah, I mean, it's worse than you know, it's not good to leave, you know, bird crap on there, much less puke with all that stomach acid.

SPEAKER_04 31:18

Yeah, that stuff will muck up your paint pretty quick. So when you had to do that, don't you guys have uh like I mean, like uh a quarter car wash that's open 24 hours where you can just spray it off with a power washer?

SPEAKER_02 31:32

I think we do, but it's uh but I was right downtown, it was like a really busy night and I didn't want to get out of there. So I'm like, man, trying to think of something right around here that I can use. And at the end of the night, I did go through that car wash because you know the holes will get will get it, but not as good as a brush, you know.

SPEAKER_04 31:48

It'll get the chunk off.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

Yeah, yeah. I just want I wanted to get all that, you know, like I said, that stomach acid off there so it wasn't gonna screw up the paint and everything. But I didn't want didn't want to go too far away from downtown because it was busy.

SPEAKER_04 32:00

Okay, that's fair enough. Yeah, there's nothing worse than throwing up after drinking. It is the fucking worst. Because like everything you ate the last six hours is coming up. Yeah, like yeah, it's oh god, it's been a while since that happened to me, but oh man, no thank you.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

The worst throwing just throwing up from anything, yeah. It's been a long time since I've thrown up from from drinking, but even just throwing up from being sick.

SPEAKER_04 32:28

Yeah, well that I feel like that's not as bad when you're sick. I mean, it's still bad, like throwing up is bad, right? We're not there's not a good or a bad, it's bad. But I feel like with drinking, it's just like because you got a headache, you're sweating, oh yeah, and you're still drunk, and you're like it's burning your throat when it's com it's fucking worst.

SPEAKER_02 32:49

It is, and you're like, I'll never do this again. I'll never, I swear till tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 32:54

Yeah, and and let's keep let's keep weed banned because you know that's it's just so terrible, so terrible for you.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

So exactly.

DoorDash Reservations And Dining Credits

SPEAKER_04 33:03

Uh all right, Larry. Let's talk about some DoorDash reservations. So are are they turning into a like catering company now or what?

SPEAKER_02 33:12

They are, yeah. So um this is something it it's they're they I guess they've been testing it, but it says it's expanding it, you know, coast to coast in the United States. So it's called DoorDash Reservations. Uh it gives you exclusive access to uh tables and and uh reservations in in a lot of restaurants. Oh, okay. Not only that, it also gives you credits back whenever you use it. So if you use it to reserve a table, you get like a ten dollar credit. Oh shit on DoorDash. I'm trying to find where it listed that, but I know it said that. Well, anyway, yeah. Uh I know I read that in here somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 33:51

Yeah, the only platform where your night out helps pay for your next night, every time you dine in with DoorDash reservations, you get a ten dollar and DoorDash credits to put toward your next delivery or pickup order. Yeah, there you go. Uh DoorDash Pass members get even more. You get$12 every time you dine. Well, God, that's like kind of a no-brainer then.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

It is. I'm I'm gonna pull up DoorDash and see if that reservations tab is is here. I don't know if it's in bowling green.

SPEAKER_04 34:16

No, it's it of course it's in Las Vegas. London, Boston, San Francisco. It's definitely not in Bowling Green in Los Angeles.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

Not here yet. But anyway, um, yeah, but it says they are you know you know, it's trying to expand it um you know coast to coast eventually. Uh I'm sure in the bigger cities, like you said, the you know, and they're probably more you know, these upscale restaurants where where you need a reservation if you're gonna go eat.

SPEAKER_04 34:41

Oh, okay. So they're like high-end shit.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

Yeah, I would think so. I I I'm sure they have they sound like they are pretty high-end, you know. I don't think they're gonna be uh put giving you a reservation for you know steak and shake or something, something like that. But yeah, you know, and it's just another way that um just like Uber, you know, DoorDash is trying to integrate and make these partnerships, trying to keep you in their ecosystem.

SPEAKER_04 35:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

I just wonder what how long it's gonna be before Uber buys DoorDash and then it's all just I don't think they're I don't think they're gonna they would don't want to sell.

SPEAKER_04 35:17

I mean DoorDash is doing well, they're not struggling.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

Yeah, I don't know why they would.

SPEAKER_04 35:21

I mean what number what number would they sell for? A hundred billion? I mean it'd have to be an absurd amount of money.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. It definitely would. Uh but yeah, that's a I mean, that's a pretty good deal. Getting, you know, getting not only do you get you know get get your reservation at your favorite restaurant or you know, where you're wanting to go for a special night out, but to get that ten or twelve dollars back in DoorDash credits. I mean, you know, that's that's that's just like a ten dollar discount on your meal.

SPEAKER_04 35:52

Yeah, but if it's if it's like the super high-end shit, I mean, what's$10 to these? You know, I'm kind of clo trying to click through some of these menus to see if I can this website's terrible. You're a high-end Oh, okay, so that's not that much. Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure they're not I mean not all. You know, no, like an entree, like uh pan seared halibut, forty-seven dollars, pan roasted salmon forty, organic chicken, thirty. So that's I mean, it's not horrible. I mean, it's under fifty bucks for a meal, so yeah, that's not terrible. I mean, if you're going yes, you're you're not going there on a Thursday at five just with your friends, but right.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

But yeah, if you know if if you're going out for uh, you know, celebrate an anniversary or a birthday or something, you're going to a little more of a high-end place. I mean, hey, just think, you know, what we're getting, you know, twelve dollars back or ten dollars back on this. So yeah, yeah, for sure.

Drift Car Air Freshener Subscription

SPEAKER_04 36:49

All right, moving on. Larry is gonna talk about drift, um, our new uh obsession, as you will.

SPEAKER_02 36:58

Yes, uh so yeah, I I I told uh I was telling these guys about drift for a couple years, man. I finally got them to try it out.

SPEAKER_04 37:06

You talked about it so much, and then we're like, that's fine, it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Like it's an air freshener, but it's a subscription air freshener service. Uh, you can get different ones. Mine is a little uh little piece of wood that they soak in um different kind of oil, you know, like essential oil every month. Uh the one that's shown on the screen now, I think, is the metal one. Is that what yours look at? Uh no, that's the slate one. That's what I have. Yeah. And then apparently they've come out with a metal one. But I pay about$11 a month, uh, between$11 and$12 a month. And I there's I I can't even count the number of times I get comment, you know, uh people comment on how nice my car smells, and they they really love it. And the smell's not overwhelming, it's not like super sweet, it's not like an unnatural smell. Um I just really can't recommend it enough if you want a car that smells good.

Waymo Flood Recall And Sensor Limits

SPEAKER_04 37:55

Yeah, check it out. Link is in the description. It's amazing. So uh okay, another Waymo story, not necessarily a video to show y'all, but Waymo has recalled over 3,500 robotaxis uh if they entered flooded roads in Texas. Uh, let's see, on April 20, an unoccupied uh autonomous vehicle entered an untraversable flood section of roadway with a 40 miles per hour speed limit at reduced speed. Uh on higher roadway speeds, the Waymo AV may slow but not stop in response to detecting a potential untraversable flooded lane. Then a TSA recalled. Um, so it was a voluntary recall. They did that. Um, trying to figure out it was breezy today on the warm side, but now we're tracking showers, even a thunderstorm. Just auto-played on the new site. I mean, you got to deal with the new right, you get it for free, but man, there's ads and shit that pops up.

SPEAKER_02 38:52

Pops up.

SPEAKER_04 38:52

Um so yeah, they're gonna obviously try to fix it uh and and do all that stuff. But then I say, why haven't they not recalled for the running the school buses? Like I haven't heard it come up recently, probably. Well, we talked about maybe a month ago. Um, but yeah, it's it's it's dangerous to go through floods.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

It's it it Yeah, and and that's gonna be a I can see why that's a tougher one because it's hard to tell how you know how deep is that water. I it's I think it's it's hard, I would think, for a sensor to really determine that. Is that something that's passable? Is that three inches of water, or is that you know 12 inches of water?

SPEAKER_04 39:33

This is where I agree. This is where down the road when AI becomes a lot better, the car could stop and watch other cars go through and decide, oh, okay. Because I mean it doesn't have that now, right? It's just basing it on Right.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

And and that would work in a in like in a in a busy city street, but if you're out kind of in the country, how long is it gonna sit there before you know to see if it's safe to go? It's gonna sit there for 15 minutes to wait for a car to come. So I don't know, you know, I don't know the answer um to that one, how they how they can figure out because even yeah, with the human eye, sometimes it's well yeah, we can't figure it out either. It's very deceiving. You think, oh, that's okay, because it happens to people every year. People get swept off the road because they oh, that's just a couple inches, I'll be fine. They they get out there, and by the time you realize it's too late, it's too late.

SPEAKER_04 40:23

Yeah, no, we're we're in the same boat. Like we we could do the same thing. If it's in the city, we're watching other cars go through. I'm like, all right, I'm good, or or just to see how deep it is and be like, they made it, but um, I'm gonna pass.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

Uh yeah, that big truck made it, but my my camera's probably not gonna Right.

SPEAKER_04 40:38

But we'd be the same in the country that we don't have cars going through it.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

I mean, honestly, for me, if I if I can't tell, I'm just gonna throw my maps on and try to find a different exactly a way around because yeah, it's not worth it because by the yeah, you can't really by the time you figure out uh it's too deep, yeah. Sometimes it's too late.

Uber Test Of Rental Car Deliveries

SPEAKER_04 40:58

Yeah, and you don't want to mess with water. I mean, yeah, okay, what's the yeah, okay, it could stall your car out, but if it ends up being one of those rushing waters and it picks your car up and and whips you down the road, I mean you could be seriously fucked. So be careful with that. Uh Larry, get paid to deliver rental cars. I know this is something that you want to do.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Yeah, exactly. So yeah, this is uh it looks like um uh one of the pop-up or mails that they send you within the Uber app says get paid to deliver rental cars. Uh hi Isaac, Uber has a new way for drivers and delivery people like you to earn money. You can now earn on the Uber platform by delivering rental cars. If you choose to accept these requests, you can either pick up the vehicle at Avis and deliver it to the renter, or pick up the vehicle from the renter and return it to Avis. If you're interested in signing up and learning more about this new way to earn, click on the button below. Uh to be eligible, you have to be you have to have a driver's license, you have to be at least 25 years old. You have to have or be willing to set up an Avis preferred account, purchase a credit card if required, and be able to clear an MBR check. Says no Uber does not provide transportation to get to and from the ballet locations.

SPEAKER_04 42:15

See, that's the thing. It's stupid then. How I mean I understand they can't do it, but can they figure out like I don't know, like do you have to you so you do you essentially have to take an Uber back to your car?

SPEAKER_02 42:29

Yes. They're building their own business here. I mean, you know, like here, uh deliver this car for us and then pay us to bring you back.

SPEAKER_04 42:38

Yeah, I mean, I can I I don't mind them doing that, but like you need to give us it to us dirt cheap. Like, because like how much are you making drive? I mean, are you making regular Uber rates driving this car from A to B, and then you pay double on the way back because you're a customer and not a driver?

SPEAKER_02 42:53

Yeah, yeah, it doesn't tell you any of that information. I yeah, I definitely would like to know more about the structure of it and how that all works from end to end.

SPEAKER_04 43:02

Yeah, I think we've I think we've talked about this before, but it is interesting that it's starting to pop back up again. Yeah. Um yeah, I don't know. And then you have to sign up, uh, be willing to set up an Avis Prevered credit card or or an account, and a credit card's required to do that. Which I I wonder what that's for.

SPEAKER_02 43:22

Well, you're driving the Avis car, so I I guess you would have to they wouldn't they wouldn't you probably have to have that account so you'd be covered under in their insurance.

SPEAKER_04 43:29

Oh, their insurance. Okay. I thought maybe again, yeah, I guess. I mean, I'd like again, I would try it just to get some information on it. You know what I mean? If that would be something that just to get figure out what's going on with that. But yeah, it doesn't seem like it's cost unless you got like a friend that's driving around with you, and then I don't know. It just seems it just seems like a waste of time and money.

SPEAKER_02 43:53

Yeah. So yeah, let me take this Uber to this guy's house to pick up the rental car so I can bring it back to Uber. Yeah.

DoorDash Account Sharing And Safety Risk

SPEAKER_04 44:00

Like fucking have him bring the car. Have the person that's renting the car take a fucking Uber to get it. Like it's stupid. All right. So uh we've talked about this time and time again. Uh investigates that uh through DoorDash that people are using other accounts. So this is a or the the names aren't popping up. And I've seen a lot of people on TikTok list just like random, like just you know, mommy bloggers or whatever, and then just like that this isn't their their platform, but they're like, you know, I had this weird interaction today. Like I ordered DoorDash and it said Cheryl, and you know, this big bearded guy came up, and I'm seeing a lot more of those. And um, I always comment on those. Like, I'm not a big commenter on stuff online. I just say make sure you report them, please. Yeah, you know, that's that's an important thing to do. So let's watch this. Uh two minutes and twelve seconds.

SPEAKER_07 44:50

Of the eight orders we placed that day, two of the DoorDash drivers did not match their profiles. That's 25% if you're counting.

SPEAKER_06 44:58

We just ordered from Jamba Juice, and it was supposed to be a guy who looks like in his mid-30s with a beard named Aram. Instead, it was a man much younger without a beard. I looked deep into his eyes, and it's not the same guy.

SPEAKER_07 45:14

Our last order of the day came from juice crafters, and once again, the driver who pulled up was not the person in the driver profile.

SPEAKER_06 45:22

It was supposed to be a woman. Right here, here's a picture. She has blonde long hair, and the person who brought us this smoothie was actually a young man.

SPEAKER_07 45:33

In a statement to us, DoorDash said, Account sharing is a clear violation of our policies, and we have zero tolerance for it. We permanently remove the accounts identified in this investigation. Sergio Avedian has driven for Uber and Lyft for a decade. He's also part of the team behind the popular Rideshare Guy YouTube channel. He says they started hearing about alleged driver fraud three years ago.

SPEAKER_08 45:56

I can buy myself a ready-to-go account to either drive Uber, Lyft, or deliver. So I don't have to steal anybody's idea. The work has been done already. I'll just pay the middleman a few hundred dollars and I'm delivering or driving passengers.

SPEAKER_07 46:10

And why do you think it is that people are buying or stealing these identities rather than getting cleared themselves?

SPEAKER_08 46:16

Well, because they're not able to.

SPEAKER_07 46:18

We reached out to several of these ads and within minutes got a live response. This one, written in Spanish, says, open a DoorDash and Uber Eats account. We asked, how does it work? To which the seller replied, you need an ID and social security number to open an account. We then asked, do I have to pass a background check? The seller responded, I can help you with that. He also said, if you don't have a driver's license, it's not a problem. Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Dingle from Michigan has been pressuring rideshare companies to improve safety for passengers.

SPEAKER_00 46:49

This is the first time that I'm aware of it, and I will be immediately asking questions. I think everybody's vulnerable. And we got to find a way to know that the person whose background check is being done is actually the person that's going to be driving that vehicle.

SPEAKER_04 47:03

Debbie Dingle from Michigan. Did you hear that last name? I did, man.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wasn't going to say anything till we were off the air.

SPEAKER_04 47:11

No, well, I was like, Debbie Dingle from Michigan. I've never heard of that. I mean, she's You don't know.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

I mean, she's your representative from your state.

SPEAKER_04 47:18

Yeah, well, there's a lot of reps from the state. My guess she's on the east side because I haven't heard of her. Um Debbie Dingle. Debbie Dingle. God damn, I would change my name if that was like first of all, fuck her parents. You named her Debbie and the last name Dingle? Come on, bro.

SPEAKER_02 47:35

I mean, she probably married into Dingle.

SPEAKER_04 47:37

Oh, that's a good point. I forgot about that. Well, that I'd change my first name then. It's on her then. It's on her. Fuck her. Um, no, this is a real thing. And and God,$150 to uh to get an account. I can help you pass your background check. You don't need a license. But then it said uh you need a social security number. So it's like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:00

Well, they're probably gonna steal your identity too.

SPEAKER_04 48:02

That's what I would be worried about.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

Yeah, and they're gonna get from both both sides.

SPEAKER_04 48:07

Yeah. Um I I don't know how you combat that. I don't know how you you know stop it from doing that, other than like, well, it starts with face recognition. You know, like screen your face. We talked to that guy about that. It doesn't matter. He he there's an app that you can literally when Uber asks for a photo, you can change your photo. Like it's not that hard to do, they said now. I mean, obviously it'll have to get more technical just due to the fact that you know these apps are getting better at it. But um, I mean it it it starts from the ground up, right? Got to report that shit every single time. And I know the people probably be like, oh, he's working. And and honestly, out of 95% of the the the mis uh identified, let's see, what am I trying to say? The out of the 95% of the people that are doing it, I'm sure it's not a problem, right? They're they're delivering fine, they're not creepers, but it's that five percent that are, and then you're fucked. Yeah, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 49:08

So sure, yeah. And yeah, most people are gonna be like, oh, my food got delivered just fine. Yeah, what's the big deal? They don't care, you know. And they'll still do no harm, no foul. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:18

But I mean it's yeah, it didn't it didn't happen this time, but what happens the next time if it's some guy that is a rapist and he ends up doing that and he wasn't background check and it's not the guy. Um, yeah, I if you know if that ever happens to me, which it hasn't, I'll report that shit like a mofo.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

Um yeah, in a heartbeat, and yeah. And it's amazing the things that people don't report. I I've had numerous you know, female passengers who've talked about Uber drivers who've done you know just really aggressive things. And I was like, I hope you report them. Like, no, I didn't, you know, I didn't want, just didn't. I'm like, Yeah, I'm not saying right in the second while you're in the car, but when you get out, you know, when you're home and you're safe, man, report that stuff. But I can understand because they're worried. You're like, well, he brought me home, he knows where I live.

SPEAKER_04 50:03

Yeah, but God, they're never gonna tell you. I mean, we've we've all gotten one stars and reports of unsafe behavior, and they fucking never tell you.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

Like, but a passenger didn't know that.

SPEAKER_04 50:13

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 50:14

But yeah, fucking and they're thinking, hey, if this guy gets fired and they're saying it's because you harassed a woman, then he's gonna know it was me.

Lyft Pickup Meltdown And Door Lock Rules

SPEAKER_04 50:22

Right. I mean, hopefully you wait maybe a day so that uh, you know, they definitely do some more rides and maybe not know. Um, but yeah, report that stuff. I mean, we all I'm I mean, I'm I'm we're talking to drivers, so we're obviously gonna do that. But if you ever have a family member or friend and that happens, like grab their phone and do it for them. Sure. You know, the only way we're gonna do this is if the the the companies like DoorDash actually take it seriously, they say they do, and maybe they are, maybe the the scammers are better, but um do that, and if we report, that's all that's it's gonna work. Exactly. All right, last story. Uh this lady, I found this later on, so it's at the end, but she refuses, right, Larry?

SPEAKER_02 51:11

She refuses to Yeah, she refuses to take a guy, and we and we you know, Lyft had a big lawsuit over this, but a guy's you know starting to get into her car, and she refuses him because she says he won't fit in the car. Uh and neither didn't handle it well.

SPEAKER_03 51:26

No.

SPEAKER_01 51:27

No, you're not recording me, right?

SPEAKER_03 51:29

I'm gonna record you. You just said I'm too large for your car.

SPEAKER_01 51:32

This is a matter of logic and rationale, and I have a right to say.

SPEAKER_03 51:37

No, you don't.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

Yeah, I do. It's my car.

SPEAKER_03 51:39

This is not your car. I'm not I'm not too large for your car.

SPEAKER_01 51:41

It's my vehicle.

SPEAKER_03 51:42

Are you dead ass, you fucking bitch? Fuck you. Are you dead ass? You are insane. Yeah, you're a fucking whore.

SPEAKER_04 51:53

Did she say at the end, do you want me to pull a gun on you?

SPEAKER_02 51:56

I did not hear that. Play that again. Yeah, let's play it again.

SPEAKER_04 51:59

It's 25 seconds. At the end, right before he closes. I missed it the first time I watched it, but I th I I did not hear that. Alright, I'll try to turn it up a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

No, you're not recording me, right?

SPEAKER_03 52:08

I'm gonna record you. You just said I'm too large for your car.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

This is a matter of logic and rationale, and I have a right to say.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

No, you don't.

SPEAKER_01 52:17

Yeah, I do. It's my car.

SPEAKER_03 52:18

This is not your car. I'm not I'm not too large for your car. I'm gonna fit. Are you dead ass, you fucking bitch? Fuck you. Are you dead ass? You are insane.

unknown 52:28

Get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_03 52:29

Yeah, you're a fucking whore.

SPEAKER_04 52:32

Yeah, she does say do you want me to?

SPEAKER_03 52:34

That's what she said. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:35

After I cranked.

SPEAKER_02 52:37

Yeah, neither one of them handled it real well. Uh, you know, he's like, she's like, this is my car, and he's like, No, it's not. I'm like, well, yeah, he I didn't know it is.

SPEAKER_04 52:45

I don't think he knew what to say. Um just because, you know, how that right.

SPEAKER_02 52:51

And and you know, we never we don't see a picture of him, so you know, we don't know.

SPEAKER_04 52:54

Well, I'm getting I'm getting a picture right now. Give me a second. Um oh no, that I can't never hold on. Um, but anyways, keep talking.

SPEAKER_02 53:02

But yeah, I mean uh if you're gonna do that, I mean I think the things do one, that's why we always keep our doors locked so people can't get in till we're ready for them to get in. Right. Keep your doors locked. And if you pull up and you see it, that just don't have any interaction with them. Just drive off. Just drive off and cancel.

SPEAKER_04 53:18

Right.

SPEAKER_02 53:19

You know, you don't have to talk to them. Don't don't say anything to them.

SPEAKER_04 53:22

So if you look at that, some somebody grabbed the video. He doesn't look that big. No, like maybe three over three hundred, but like not like huge.

SPEAKER_02 53:33

Yeah, it's not like he's 500 pounds or anything.

SPEAKER_04 53:35

No, maybe she just got a weird vibe from him or something, and it was just like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

But I mean that's always our advice. Uh keep your doors locked until until you know that you're you want them as a passenger and your car, keep your door locked. If you pull up and you see see something and you're like, I don't think he's gonna fit in my car, don't have any interaction, don't roll your window down, give them some, don't do give them, don't just don't interact with them. Just leave, just pull away, cancel the ride, go on.

SPEAKER_04 54:01

Yeah, because when you do this kind of stuff, even though like I sh I I don't want you to discriminate by anything, you're gonna get you're gonna get caught. Like it's gonna be a problem for you. But if you just drive on by, not a problem. And again, maybe she parked and was waiting for him. He opened the door, but again, like you said, lock the door, roll the window down. But it's during the day too. So like I don't want to blame her too much because I am such more more relaxed during the day, and it might have happened, but like he didn't look big enough. Like, I don't even think I would even say that to somebody. Like, you're too big, you're not gonna fit.

SPEAKER_02 54:37

Right. And and I mean, I actually there there's been one time uh I drove off. Okay, um, it was a combination of things. I was in Cincinnati, I'd been visiting my son when he was going to school up there and was driving in downtown Cincinnati, pulled up to a bar, and a woman came out to the car, and she was rather large, but you know, that's fine. And she's like, Hey, just a minute, I gotta get my sister. And she starts walking back, and I see this bouncer walking this girl out, and she's she's probably 400 pounds and she's trash.

SPEAKER_04 55:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 55:10

And I'm like, there is no way I'm getting her, helping her. Well, yeah, if she passes out. Right. And so when she when she walked back to get her, I just left. You know, I didn't I didn't say anything to him, didn't like say, like, you know, I'm not taking her, she's too big, or you know, I'm gonna hurt myself. I just just cancel, gone.

SPEAKER_04 55:29

Yeah. And honestly, like I know you and you know me. We probably felt bad after doing that, but you're like, I I can't deal, I can't do it.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

Like, I'm like, man, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna one, she's so trash, I'm afraid she's gonna get sick. But yeah, if she passes out, I you know, I'm not gonna hurt my back trying to trying to help get her out of the car, and there's no guarantee somebody else is gonna be home to help.

SPEAKER_04 55:53

And so you know, and now and now you're calling 911 waiting for somebody to come, and then it's like a whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 56:00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 56:00

So yeah, I'm I was gonna say it ain't worth six bucks.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

I didn't just say tell, I didn't yell out, hey, I'm not taking your sister, you know, she's too big, or you know, yeah, why why do that? Just cancel and go on.

SPEAKER_04 56:13

People need to need to learn to shut the fuck up. Like shut the fuck up. Close your mouth. And I hey, you're you're laughing, but I'm I'm run my mouth. I this is advice for me, too. Oh yeah, not Jason. Yeah, Jason needs to learn to shut the fuck up too, because you know, your mouth just gets you in trouble. And people and there's cameras everywhere, and it's just just don't do it. Not worth it. Some Elmo TikToks? Yeah. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 56:47

I found the channel. It's it's a guy doing Elmo, and I'll send you one. He's bitching about stuff like the one I sent to I posted in our chat was about uh about stopping in the middle of a roundabout.

SPEAKER_04 56:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:00

And it's just it's just funny when Elmo's telling you to shut the fuck up.

Weekend Plans And Final Takeaway

SPEAKER_04 57:03

Well, yeah, when Elmo's swear. I've seen some some of those before, yeah, for sure. Well, we'll wrap it up here. The the um the the podcast or the Patreon podcast is gonna be at 8 10 p.m. Uh so love for you to join us. Larry, any gig work this weekend?

SPEAKER_02 57:23

I will be in St. Louis visiting my son. We're going uh Saturday, we're going to see the uh St. Louis Battlehawks UFL football game.

SPEAKER_05 57:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:31

And then Sunday, we're going to see the St. Louis Cardinals play the Kansas City Royals. And then either Friday night or Saturday night, we're going bowling because my son has got into bowling big time. So I've got a hawk to be in a league like 30 years ago.

SPEAKER_04 57:45

Gotcha. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 57:47

So no gig work. For sure. We'll be out tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 57:49

No gig work for me either. Uh, maybe Sunday, like I said earlier, but yeah, I appreciate it guys. 8 10 p.m. for the Patreon. And as always, don't put up with anyone's bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 58:00

We'll see you on the road.

SPEAKER_04 58:02

All right, peace out.