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#30: This week on Rise, Recover, Live, Liz and Bryce The Third sink back into the couch for a real one on mentorship—why we chase it, when we need it, and when it might actually be okay to skip it.

For Bryce, mentorship has been non-negotiable. Whether it’s recovery, business, or just becoming a better human, he sees guidance as a lifeline. Liz? Not so much. She’s in a season of radical self-trust, choosing her own tools, her own path, and walking away from anything (or anyone) that doesn’t fit.

Together, they unpack what it means to seek wisdom without outsourcing your worth. It’s a convo about mentors, chosen fam, and how to keep the relationships that really see you.

Spoiler: Sometimes the best mentor is the version of you that finally says, “Nah, I’m good.”

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.  Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line.  Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line.  Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery.  Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help.  You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only.  This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix

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