Psyched to Practice

Bonus Episode: March Madness and CBT

Dr. Ray Christner and Paul Wagner Season 1 Episode 93

In this episode of the Psyched to Practice Podcast, Ray Christner explores the metaphor of March Madness in relation to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT). He discusses how filling out a March Madness bracket can reflect our decision-making processes, particularly the balance between gut reactions and evidence-based analysis. Ray emphasizes the importance of resilience and acceptance of imperfection in both sports and life decisions, encouraging listeners to use cultural metaphors in their therapeutic practices.

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