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know"},{"speaker":"Bianca","startTime":1868.5040000000001,"endTime":1873.065,"body":"the number and was like, Here's a"},{"speaker":"Bianca","startTime":1868.5040000000001,"endTime":1873.065,"body":"hint, it's close to your weight."},{"speaker":"Bianca","startTime":1873.07,"endTime":1876.275,"body":"You guys are almost the same, which"},{"speaker":"Bianca","startTime":1873.07,"endTime":1876.275,"body":"I haven't been weighed, but it's"},{"speaker":"Bianca","startTime":1876.28,"endTime":1877.954,"body":"in my old chart from my surgery."},{"speaker":"Bianca","startTime":1878.045,"endTime":1879.515,"body":"And I was like, What?"},{"speaker":"Bianca","startTime":1880.805,"endTime":1883.595,"body":"I'm trying to teach Gray that"},{"speaker":"Bianca","startTime":1880.805,"endTime":1883.595,"body":"her weight means fucking nothing"},{"speaker":"Bianca","startTime":1883.595,"endTime":1885.395,"body":"about her health or her 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