Fantasy Football with the Dork and the Dude.
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Draft Review
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The 2026 draft is in the books. I give every team a C. But the real analysis is here.
Welcome to Fantasy Football with the Dork and the Dude. This is our draft review. That would be the dude over there, and I am the Dork. That's it.
SPEAKER_02Welcome back. We're getting more viewers all the time, Dork.
SPEAKER_03We are. Dude, I gotta tell you, um this draft, for one, it was fairly weak. A little light on talent, deep on good rotational guys.
SPEAKER_02That's what everybody's been saying. That's the narrative, Dork.
SPEAKER_03I'm I'm looking at the team and I can find something to like and dislike about practically every draft. Sure. And you know, it's I don't see any one team that stood out.
SPEAKER_02It's not an exact science, Dork.
SPEAKER_03No, it isn't.
SPEAKER_02And I'm sure before you get into your analysis, Dork.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh didn't mean to cut you off. I've got uh uh something I've got to play because uh the draft's over, and one of the first things they do uh with the new rookies is they have uh the rookie sub symposium. Have you heard of that, Dor?
SPEAKER_03I I have, yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh well, this is a little clip from uh uh uh symposium, I don't know, 2011 or some bullshit. Uh this was uh rookie year for Teddy Bridgewater.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Here we go, brother.
SPEAKER_01All right, now I'm gonna let my whole voice know. Y'all wanna keep rolling like this? I need to know who's gonna be the full guy, who's gonna be driving.
SPEAKER_03Because y'all gonna be a big deal. And at this point, Warren Staff is laughing his ass off.
SPEAKER_01If you're gonna have a crew, one of them fools got to know he's going to jail.
SPEAKER_02He's going to jail and they'll get him out, Dork.
SPEAKER_03Chris Carter. Is that classic? Letting the rookies know. Yeah, you need a fall guy.
SPEAKER_02That's right. But you know, the m more complex life gets and the older that I get, I realize everybody should have a fall guy.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. I'm here for you, dude.
SPEAKER_02Uh okay, man.
SPEAKER_03I'm the I'm I'm the fool going to jail. All right, just bail me out.
SPEAKER_02Give us your winners and losers, Dork, and I'll do some commentary. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Um, like I said, um, you know, they um I I thought it was all fairly even. I mean, this is uh inexact science, anyways, as you said. Yeah. Uh we won't know for two or three years how these people are gonna pan out. But we can't help analyzing it because that's who we are. That's what we do. And first of all, just let me say, I'm not putting teams like the Jets, Miami, Cleveland, and Vegas in with the winners. Appreciate it. Because they um they did Because they're losers. They did the easy part, and that's accumulating talent. And I think they all did a pretty good job, but now you got to develop it, and you know, they're at the bottom, and they're just hey, everyone come on in here. Yeah. And um the other team in that bundle, Arizona, they lead off my losers. Okay. I just they are the worst team to be taking a running back in the top ten, I think.
SPEAKER_02I don't really uh I don't agree with that, Dor.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um uh this guy by uh many estimates was the best player in the draft.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02You're rebuilding. Uh yeah, granted, it might not pay off till year three with the CAC when you put a good offensive line uh around him. They have weapons. They do. And they need a quarterback. Uh Brissett was putting up 300 fucking yards a game last year. I don't know why everybody's talking about him like he's dog shit.
SPEAKER_03I I am not averse to a quarterback tandem of Brissett and Minshew in a bridge year, and I mean Minshew as a backup. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um in a bridge year when you're hope that that sucker never gets into a game.
SPEAKER_03Right. But um, you know, he he has done some good things in his career. It's been a while. But it has been a while. He's a journeyman, a backup. I I don't know. I go for a premium position if it's me. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Uh and and where's that gonna get you since you're going nowhere anyway?
SPEAKER_03He's gonna give you a piece who um is gonna be there hopefully 10, 15 years in being all pro. Right. Um, it's just you know, you could go back to Barkley, who didn't improve the Giants. Um that's because the Giants are a dysfunctional organization. And what are the Cardinals, I guess I'd say.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh, but they've got uh new coach uh staff, you've got to figure they're gonna turn around. Uh I think uh I don't have a hard time with that pick.
SPEAKER_03I don't know, but I just heard the same thing about Bichon and Genty the last few years, and it just it just doesn't seem to work.
SPEAKER_02And um it helps if you have a uh a s a good quarterback.
SPEAKER_03And if the if this uh it's LaFleur's brother, right? Yeah if yeah, if he's if he's another genius on the level of Sean McVeigh, I suspect he'll make it work, no matter who they drafted here. Sure. And um loves receiving ability. They say they think he can play some slot and be used as a weapon in the passing game. That does change the calculus a little.
SPEAKER_02No, fuck that. Uh the plan is he's gonna be Christian McCaffrey.
SPEAKER_03Okay, that's that that's good, but that did not work out for Carolina when they had Christian McCaffrey.
SPEAKER_02No, this is the Shanahan tree. Carolina's dysfunctional.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, we'll see. I'm I'm I'm I'm uh I'm uh I'm not impressed. Another dislike is the Rams. I love their draft. I'm not arguing with taking a QB here or a six-string tight end and after him. Right. But um, you know, tight ends are becoming a big thing, as we know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, your team uh draft one in a third round.
SPEAKER_03Yes, they did. But um the QB is full of red flags. He's he's not a weapon as a runner. He can scramble, but so can everyone. Right. Um he didn't have a great year. You know, it's it's they say it was injury, but it's also possible once people got film on him and studied him, right? That's when his uh numbers declined. Okay. And uh he's smallish for a QB. Right.
SPEAKER_02What is he 6'1?
SPEAKER_03I think 6'2, 210.
SPEAKER_02Okay, uh, yeah. I have no problem with uh uh any of his collegiate shit at this point. He's in the fucking NFL. He got drafted in the first round uh to one of the best organizations and coaching staffs in the fucking game. Uh uh, they will prepare that guy, and if you have to set for two years, so be it.
SPEAKER_03It it it might work out great. It might give him uh keep the keep their uh success going after Stafford. Uh-huh. But there are just too many red flags for him as a quarterback to take him that high in my mind. Too early to tell for me. It is too early to tell, but that's my take, dude, and I'm sticking to it.
SPEAKER_02Okay, man, but we're looking at big picture as well as macro.
SPEAKER_03We're looking at big picture as well. You got that? Is it macro big picture? We're I mean micro. We're looking macro and micro. Okay. Another one. Um Atlanta. That's another loser.
SPEAKER_02Three years from now you'll be uh or three years from now you'll be taking Ty Simpson in our fantasy fucking draft.
SPEAKER_03Well, it's that's very possible. I mean, I I don't want to doubt Sean McVeigh, but these guys aren't right all the time either. I'm just saying. True. You know, and if he could just take anyone.
SPEAKER_02Well, he took uh Jared Gaw.
SPEAKER_03Yeah number one. If he if he could if he could just take anyone and um turn him into a great quarterback, he'd said, no, we got Stetson Bennett here backing up uh uh Stafford. He's next to him. He uh he was a national championship winner, Bennett was.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he'll be a he'll knock around, he'll make three million a year as uh holding a clipboard.
SPEAKER_03Flipboard holder? Well, good for him. Uh next is Atlanta. That Pierce trade was just so dumb. Yeah, it was. In fact, it's a nice segue here because the pick that the Rams used to get Simpson was from the Pierce trade. Freebie. And um I knew from reading stuff that he was the worst character case in last year's draft.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And um so you know everyone in the NFL knew that. Yeah. And it proved to be true. Now, Matt, I hope he turns things around.
SPEAKER_02But um But to trade up for the pool. I mean, uh if he drops to you uh third round because no one wants to touch him because of his issues.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay, that's one uh move up first round, give a first round draft pick.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Next, Tennessee. You're Titans.
SPEAKER_02I love him! My boys! Okay, I I think we're gonna possibly have some disputes here, Dork.
SPEAKER_03People tune in for.
SPEAKER_00Oh God, here we go again, Dork alert.
SPEAKER_03They picked the second best receiver on his team, on his college team. Uh according to whose estimation. Everyone's. Jeremiah, is it Jeremiah Smith?
SPEAKER_02Oh, and they're all right all the time, too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And um they passed on a couple of possibly generational defensive talents in Arvell Reese and Sonny Styles. Right. And I just don't think that's a good that's smart. Okay. Okay. I think Carnell Tate will be a fine player, but most people didn't even have the as the top receiver in the draft. It was uh doesn't matter. Fucking uh Jerry Rice uh went number 16, for God's sake. Well, you know, I will gladly come on here and say I was wrong if he's the next Jerry Rice.
SPEAKER_02Oh, he's not gonna be, but uh they need Cam Ward weapons. Yeah, Avril Reese ain't gonna fucking do that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but he might uh cause turnovers and sacks and get him the ball in good field position.
SPEAKER_02Uh you still gotta have someone to throw it to. It's an offensive-minded league, Dorot.
SPEAKER_03But there were good receivers available in round two, three, and four. Um He was their guy.
SPEAKER_02I have no problem with taking your guy.
SPEAKER_03I think this was a mistake. And anyways, the last one, well, I get that. I agree. I totally agree, but I'm gonna have a take that's different, and I I'm gonna I have a platform here and I'm gonna say it, damn it.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's what we do, Dor.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And uh finally, everyone's piling on San Francisco. Yeah. And I I actually kind of like their picks. I have no problem. Except why do they keep drafting running backs in the third round who fail?
SPEAKER_02Well, it's been like every year they draft a good. Well, because if you hit on one, uh uh uh no one remembers the failures. Uh uh Jordan Mason's a good back.
SPEAKER_03Jordan Mason, but they got him uh wasn't he late round or even an undrafted free.
SPEAKER_02Elijah Mitchell was a good back to the back. But again, he was later than that, I think. Injuries and shit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02No, I'm not worried. Uh uh, I'm not worried. They they take risk.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Sometimes it uh pays off, sometimes it blows up in their fucking face. What was Kittle? A fifth rounder?
SPEAKER_03Kittle was a fifth rounder, I think, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so no, I don't question those cats.
SPEAKER_03Well, but we gotta. We can't we can't put these guys up on a pedestal.
SPEAKER_02No, but we but we can't uh just fucking uh hammer them.
SPEAKER_03Yes, we can. That's what we do.
SPEAKER_02Oh, so you're doing a hatchet job on John Lynch and Shanahan. Okay, Dort, go for it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because who Tyreeon David Price, Trey Sermon. I know there's been some others. Um and I like Tyreon David Price. Everybody makes mistakes. They make one with a running back every draft.
SPEAKER_02You don't want me to go into the Chicago Bears draft history, do you?
SPEAKER_03Dort the Bears. I didn't bring up the Bears. No, but I am not what do you think that after Chicago Bob's report? I'm gonna play the straw man. Okay. Anyways, these are the ones I like. Okay. Um, I mentioned, you know, the Jets, Miami, Cleveland, Vegas. You know, I think they did a great job. But they're rebuilding and they did what they had to do. Congratulations. They're dysfunctional. We don't expect much from them. Right. Tennessee's dysfunctional too, but you love them. I do. Arizona's dysfunctional, and you know. Anyways, uh Baltimore. I like that. I like what they got. I, you know, they had a lot of picks, which is really good in a draft like this. Sure. And their first round pick, they draft well. They got a stud. They didn't worry about positional value. They said this guy's an all-pro as a guard. Let's get him. Yeah. Uh Carolina.
unknownUh good.
SPEAKER_03My boys! Yeah, they got good players at premium positions, I believe. I got some Carolina gear uh uh downstairs.
SPEAKER_02Just arrived uh, I think Vedac.
SPEAKER_03Excellent. I can't, you know, you're gonna have a rotating uh bit of uh gear this year. I mean, I'm gonna love it. Oh yeah. That's that's uh that's the way I rolled, Doric. Um Washington, I I like. Oh yeah, wow. They they waited on Sunday. They're style who's looking like the next door locker. Okay, you know, style. Fast guy, tall guy.
SPEAKER_02Good pickup at seven.
SPEAKER_03And then um they got value on it. If you look at every one of their picks, he was pick picked um let's see. The consensus on him was way earlier than when they took him. Right. So I think they did a good job. So they got good value. Yeah. Um three more, I think, did well. Dallas, because they got downs. He's he looks like an impact player and that pass rusher. Yep. And they focused on defense. Which was their weakness. Um, Buffalo, I thought, did a good job. I did too. Ten picks they had. They got an edge, a tackle, and a cornerback. Um, and they're uh, I'll mention this guy later, but I think the receiver Skyler Bell is a good uh long shot for rookie of the year. A lot of people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he's uh a lot of people are uh talking him up post-draft.
SPEAKER_03Obviously the Giants with their two first-round picks, but they also have big hole in the middle of their defensive line, so we'll see how that goes. I gotta get some Giants here. I don't have it yet. Who aren't your boys? Come on, dude. You're usually all you're usually bashing and doing a hatchet job on these clowns. Well, Dork, seeing as how are you softening up in your old age?
SPEAKER_02No, seeing as how I'm riding my uh super uh betting season from last year and stuff. Uh uh, I realize I'm on a roll. I got the mojo. And so I'm gonna be cashing a lot of tickets, Dork, that you're gonna say, uh, I'm hey Dork, you were right. I didn't think the Titans would do jack shit, and and uh I cash big tickets. Okay, well it works.
SPEAKER_03We'll uh in in maybe a month we'll have a uh an updated uh wind totals uh show. Sure. And uh we can do some side bets then, okay, and we'll see who caches who.
SPEAKER_02Sounds like a total plan.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um although the wind totals aren't going to change much, probably in the next couple months.
SPEAKER_03Probably not. Okay, and um also I like Denver. I thought they made some solid lipstick. I thought they were solid too. And the fact that they they brought in Jalen Model. The gutter snipe drafts well. So those are the those are the guys I like. Okay. And now we talked about the Bears. We have Chicago Bob's Bear Report. Thank you, Chicago Bob. Yep.
SPEAKER_02Want me do it now, Dorne? Yeah, let's do it. All right, here we go. And thanks again, Chicago Bob. Uh, your analysis is always right on. Says, uh, hey Dork and dude, another NF NFL draft is over and done with, and for the second year in a row, the Bears surprised us with their second day selections. Yours truly was right about the Bears taking a safety in the first round, but I did not expect Dylan Thinelman? Is that how it's pronounced? The enemies. Uh he's an organ duck. Yes, he is. Uh the Bears were fortunate that he dropped because it was a position of need also. I was predicting, hoping, they would go D-line with both day two picks and pick up a center and tied in later on. But they flipped the script on me and did pretty much the opposite. Here's my expert analysis. That's why we have you here, Bob. That's it. Bob knows his bears. That's why he's Chicago Bob.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, round one, Dylan. The enemies. I'll get that. Did you bet him for rookie of the year, Dory?
SPEAKER_03Uh, not yet.
SPEAKER_02Uh, you need to get on that. Uh safety out of Oregon, great value at 25 overall. We'll start alongside free agent signee Kobe Bryant. Round two, Logan Jones, center out of Iowa. We'll start the offseason behind Garrett Bradbury, who has one year remaining on his contract. Jones may compete for a starting job this year. What did you think about the Jones picture?
SPEAKER_03I like it. I they needed, I wanted depth in the interior offensive line, and he gives it to them. And you lose Dallas. He's also a tough, uh, you know, he's the only knock on him is he's a little undersized, I believe. He's not one of those big corn fed farm boys? Um, apparently not. Okay. He's only he he I think he's only like 303 pounds. Okay. Yeah. That is kind of light for Iowa linemen. Dave Remington Award is the best center in the nation last year. Nice. He uh comes from Iowa, who produces good offensive linemen. Yeah, they do. And um he he moves really well. He's super quick, and I I think in this scheme he should do real well.
SPEAKER_02Okay. All right, round three, Sam Roche is it? Rush. Rush. Tight end out of Stanford. The Bears moved back from round two, pick number sixty, here for a fifth round pick. They needed to take a tight end because they often run multiple tight end sets. Uh Rush will play some as a third tight end and probably contribute on special teams.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02What did you think of the pick there, Dork? Would you have been there in the fourth round?
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna say no. I mean, Ben Johnson has a plan for him, but that doesn't mean it's a good plan. Um, he may have been there in the fourth round, but they targeted him, they went by their board. I personally would have liked to see him take a take an edge rusher, and there were decent ones there.
SPEAKER_02And you had two third rounders. Yeah. Okay, so your second uh third rounder, you picked, uh, and everybody considers this as a reach, just like the 49ers with their wide receiver was a reach. I don't care. Xavion Thomas, wide receiver kick returner out of LSU, has blazing speed, ran a 4.28 40-yard dash at the combine. What do you think about that, Dorf? Was it a reach?
SPEAKER_03I agree it's a reach. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Um blazing speed that they may But you know, by round three, I I I've been watching some analysis. If you wait till round three to get an edge rusher, they're gone.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Right? Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah. So you got uh uh And no really no round three edge rusher or put it this way, a round three edge rusher or defensive interior guy is highly unlikely to make an impact on the roster as anything other than uh rotational help. I hear you.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so uh uh then in round four you took Malik Muhammad, cornerback Texas. I've heard good things about him.
SPEAKER_03Good athlete, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Corner uh with good height and speed, adds depth, and could be a starter in 2027.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Hey, you know, fourth, fifth rounders, if they make your teams and produce, you're happy. Round five, Keyshawn Elliott, linebacker out of Arizona State, high character guy who will start out as a depth piece, a special teamer.
SPEAKER_03So the Bears, um, one of the reporting out of this was they really went for not just high character guys, right, but guys who love to play football, love to work at it. I like it. And you know, the kind of guys who had to be chased out of the weight room. Not that they do that, but and um, so I'm I'm all for that if all these guys are like that.
SPEAKER_02Cool. Uh round six, uh uh your only defensive lineman taken, Jordan Vandenberg, defensive tackle out of Georgia Tech, another high character, high effort guy who would join the defensive tackle rotation.
SPEAKER_03He's um interesting guy. He's a real good physical specimen. He didn't get to the combine, he didn't get an invite. But he had a pro day where his uh testing was off the charts, I guess. Cool. So uh he lasted till the sixth round. He lasted till the sixth round, and that's an obvious red flag, but we'll see. Okay. South African guy.
SPEAKER_02Okay. And then it says Best Bears rookie names. There's a tie, Doric. This award goes to two undrafted free agents. Squirrel White, wide receiver, and uh out of Florida State, and Hayden Large, tight end Iowa.
SPEAKER_03First of all, I love the names. Yeah. Iowa tight ends do great. I mean Kittle, Dallas Clark, Hawkinson, um, they're tied into Laporta. Um, you know, I'm never gonna argue with an Iowa tight end, and I I know I missed some. Um uh Hayden Large, undrafted free agent, but who knows? We'll see. Uh maybe they'll afore tight end offense. Who knows? And I love the idea of a Caleb to Squirrel matchup, you know? That would be awesome. I just hope he doesn't run like a squirrel where he's just going all over the place and you can't find him.
SPEAKER_02Uh they call him squirrel for some reason. I don't know, maybe he's from Alabama and they ate it growing up. Could be. Uh anyway, Bob gives him a uh B plus grade. Uh he says, again, I was hoping for a day one or two defensive linemen, but the Bears had invested heavily in that group last year and are hoping that better coaching will turn it around. I think they're managed to add depth at some positions that will help them manage the roster with respect to the salary cap. And he also wanted to thank uh I missed page two. You got the rest of it uh yeah, finish it off there, Doc.
SPEAKER_03It's pretty clear that Ben Johnson is in charge. They had significant contributions from last year's draft class, so I will give Johnson the benefit of the doubt here. That's all I have for now. Thanks to the Athletic Chicago Sun-Times and 670 Sports Radio the Score. And Courtney Cronin. And Courtney Cronin. And Stacey Dales. I saw her, she was on there today. I watched a little video of her thoughts on the Bears. Nice. Um I like Stacy Dales. Yeah, yeah. Smart, uh, smart reporter. Yeah, she is. Um, I agree with the I I give all of them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm I'm gonna give my opinion too. So that's what we do. Our viewers demand it. Our listeners demand it.
SPEAKER_02There wouldn't be a damn podcast if that's not if we didn't do that.
SPEAKER_03Fucking A right there we have.
SPEAKER_02You got any other stuff to add, Dork?
SPEAKER_03Um, real quick, uh, just early thoughts on some uh fantasy players. Nice. I think Jadarian Price with Seattle is a good one. You know I don't like running backs in a round one, but John Snyder has had a lot of success drafting running backs early. And this guy's probably gonna be the man from day one behind a decent offensive line and a good offense.
SPEAKER_02First, he might be uh uh the the guy first five or six weeks till Charbonnet gets exactly.
SPEAKER_03Um a couple of uh a couple of uh obviously Love's gonna be a good pick because he's gonna get the rock. Yep. I like uh other some later drafted running backs to keep an eye on, and of course, watch the camp news, see what's going on, all that. Yeah. Uh Jonah Coleman from Denver, got out of Washington.
SPEAKER_02You know, in our fantasy draft, someone's gonna take a uh a flyer on him.
SPEAKER_03Nick Singleton, I believe he's with the Titans. Does that sound right?
SPEAKER_02He is hell of a pick. I should have talked about it when you were running them down and doing a hatchet job on their ass.
SPEAKER_03That's okay. I think he might be a decent fantasy pick. And his teammate at Penn State.
SPEAKER_02Uh uh, he's gonna take uh Pollard's job before it's all over.
SPEAKER_03Catron Allen at Washington. I thought that was a hell of a pick, too. It'll be like when Lydell Mitchell and Franco Harris came from in from Penn State in the 71 draft, and both of them became Pro Bowlers. You're dreaming. Yeah, oh yeah, you just watch. Okay, uh there's a lot of good receivers out there, and I'll I'll just name them off. Uh Antonio Williams, Washington, Deshaun Stribling for the Niners, Omar Cooper for the Jets, um, Zachariah Branch for Atlanta, Elijah Surratt, Baltimore, he's an Indiana guy. Yep. The other Indiana guy, Omar Cooper was his first.
SPEAKER_02He was gonna take Bateman's job.
SPEAKER_03You know, obviously Tate Tyson in the first rounders. Sure. But you got Boston and Concepcion at Cleveland, Chris Bell at Miami, and uh oh, obviously Makai Lemon with Philly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. What a move by Philly to get that guy.
SPEAKER_03And uh keep an eye on tight ends, Justin Jolly and Dalen Bentley at Denver. Um the gutter snipe uses the tight ends well. They both looked pretty good. So uh just keep an eye on them.
SPEAKER_02And they're giving up on Ingram. That was a dumb signing.
SPEAKER_03Well, you know, you take your shots, but it turned out to be dumb. Didn't work. Okay, can I do one more thing here, dude? Do it, Dork. I yeah, I took a little deep dive on first-round quarterbacks. Give me a dork alert. Oh, thank you.
SPEAKER_02First time giving you your applause for your analysis, Dork.
SPEAKER_00Oh God, here we go again. Dork alert.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so, dude, did you know that in the first uh 62 years of the draft from 1936 to 1997, there were only 17 quarterbacks selected number one overall. I knew that. Since then, just kidding, 20 27 years, it looks like. Okay. Or 20 29 years from 98 to 26. Okay. There have been 22 QBs. As the importance of the QB has become apparent to if you don't have one, you got no shot. Right. But that's 39 overall, and so a lot of them before the Super Bowl era. Sure. So I I kind of started with uh Bradshaw in 1970. Okay. As as you know, for my thing. Sure. I counted three who were a lot of them you could call busts. Right. But a lot of them also played a long time and did put up a good year or two.
SPEAKER_02Well, and when you start with the worst team in the league, uh uh you can easily get shell shot.
SPEAKER_03And the three I identified as I would call them busts. Okay. Um were Derek or Tim Couch, sure, Derek Carr, or not Derek, uh David Carr, sure, and Jamarcus Russell. Sure. There were others who were busts like um Vinny Testaverdi, but he went on to play a long time. He did. Uh Jeff George was a clown, but he also played a long time and kept getting signed by new teams who thought they could coach him into being something other than a douchebag. Uh-huh. And uh, you know, so that. Um five of those, in all that time, five won a Super Bowl with their original team. Uh-huh. And that was Bradshaw, Elway, Aikman, and the Manning brothers, Payton and Eli. Right. Three of them won a Super Bowl with a different team. Our guy, Jim Plunkett, uh Manning, and uh Matthew Stafford. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02Of course, Manning wasn't the first overall pick. He was. No, that was a trade with San Diego. Eli was. But he was I mean, uh Eli.
SPEAKER_03He is listed as the first pick, though.
SPEAKER_02But he wasn't. It was the first one.
SPEAKER_03I think San Diego took, or they they picked him, but he was picked. Yeah, but if you look at the draft, he was the guy picked first. And then they traded him to the Giants.
SPEAKER_02Okay. I thought he was announced as a member of the uh Chargers or whatever. I'll have to look at that. No, he was. I remember him coming out carrying the fucking jersey. Yeah. So he was the number he was not the number one pick.
SPEAKER_03Well, he was, but they traded him. They they they picked him number one before or after? I think after.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Okay. Who went number one then?
SPEAKER_03He did he did. He was the guy announced as the number one pick. And then the Giants flipped flopped with uh with San Diego at the time.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so the Chargers announced him as their n is the number one pack.
SPEAKER_03And honestly, Rivers was a better quarterback. Yeah, he was. He just uh had a couple of uh, you know, lucky Super Bowl wins when my my theory now is that Tom Coughlin said, remember all those signals we used to have? Oh, we're gonna change him for the Super Bowl, and that's why New England was clueless about what to do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh Manning had a pretty lucky fucking career like Warner.
SPEAKER_03So uh Mendoza, um, I like him. It's but he is one of those, he just coming off one real good year ago um uh prospects. Right. So we'll see. But he is the right pick. Um 31 other GMs would have drafted him or traded down to a team that would have drafted him if they had a quarterback. So I am not knocking the Raiders at all. It was Slim Pickens. Yeah, it was. And um I just I just thought that was interesting to share. One more thing, quick. Sure. Um, so the day of the draft, as it got close, I was watching DraftKings and um or looking at DraftKings and trying to predict a draft order because of the odds. Sure. It did not go well. Uh yeah. Mendoza was right.
SPEAKER_02No, like Mendoza was probably minus a thousand.
SPEAKER_03Fano went to Cleveland and Delane went to KC, they were predicted, but not in their spots. Right. Tyson, they got that right. Um, let me see. I'm just looking, going down the line here. They had the Rams taking Lemon, although Simpson had pretty decent odds. Right. Uh Ioni to Baltimore. Omar Cooper to the Jets, but not at 16. They got him later. Uh-huh. Um, yeah, they didn't get anything right hardly.
SPEAKER_02It's tough.
SPEAKER_03So, um, oh, Mala Malachi Lawrence to Dallas. He was he was kinda kinda set to go there. Uh-huh. But it was just an interesting little exercise, and it just shows that, you know, maybe maybe the the odds makers don't know. They don't. Yeah. The big thing was Reese. He was dropping like uh a rock at num for number two. Yeah, you were. His odds were down to minus 250, I want to say. Uh-huh. And we were watching it. I told you, it's probably going to be Reese. And then they picked Bailey, and I felt like a damn fool. Well, yeah But it won't be the first it wasn't the first time, won't be the last.
SPEAKER_02Most of the mock drafter drafters weren't right either. Okay, Dorg, before we close out here, I'm going to run down my Super Bowl bets. I think uh I've probably got about 400 in futures at this point. So let's run.
SPEAKER_03This is a guy who had Seattle at 65 to 1 at this time last year. So it you'd be wise to listen, everyone. That's what I'm talking about and take note. That's what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_00Huh? This is business, and this man has taken it very, very personal. It's not personal, Sonny.
SPEAKER_02It's business.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Okay. I probably watched that clip once a week on YouTube, that and the Mo Green clip.
SPEAKER_02I like it. I like the Mo Green one too. Uh okay. I I don't have a lot on the Super Bowl per se. I have the Rams. I got them at plus uh 950. Uh they dropped as far as plus 750, but they're back up to plus 800. Oh, okay. Uh I got Cincinnati 25 to 1. I like it. I got uh well the uh yeah, they're 25 to 1. I think they dropped after the draft down to 22 or something. Um I got Carolina and the Saints both 100 to 1. Uh I regret that I bet $10 on them because according to Oregon Law, any uh wins over $600 they hit John for taxes, but that was a mistake. I don't make many of those. Taxes are the price we pay for a decent society, dude. I got the Tennessee Titans, my Tennessee Titans, 120 to 1 dort. Like you said, no one should be 100 to 1. That's right.
SPEAKER_03And if you like them, take them.
SPEAKER_02Uh I got the Giants 70 to 1. I got the Vikings 55 to 1.
SPEAKER_03I like that one. That's that's really a good one. I'm gonna jump on that one.
SPEAKER_02Do it. And then I got the Rams over uh the Broncos, exact uh finish, 100 to 1. Love it. Divisions, I got the Broncos winning the AFC West plus 215. I got Carolina winning the NFC South at plus 360. Titans winning the AFC South at 750 plus 750, and the Vikings winning the NFC North at plus 550. They're plus 600. I I should have waited.
SPEAKER_03Here's what I'm gonna say on that. Anytime you get a team over about plus 500 to win the division, yeah, take it. That's what I'm thinking. Jump on it, throw a few bucks on it, whatever. That's what I'm doing, Darren. That's smart. Um, I did it with the Texans uh uh two years ago. Nice when they were, I want to say 22 to one, just five bucks. And they won.
SPEAKER_0222 to 1?
SPEAKER_03Maybe it was 11 to 1. I won 110 bucks on it. Cool. So it uh if I bet five, it was 11 to 1. If I bet um or whatever. Okay, dory. Anyways, I got the Dork, the dude has Teams of Destiny. I picked out two today myself. Who are they, Dor? Uh, the Cleveland Browns. Okay. Because that is a division in flux with new coaches and everything. I'm gonna do it. Or 10 to 1. Yeah. Do it. The other one is the Las Vegas Raiders. Okay. They have a superstar on both offense and defense. They got a new coach who seems to have gotten things together. Right. Um, it might be Cousins, it might be Mendoza, I don't know. Who cares? But I'm really not impressed with where Kansas City is now, especially with Mahomes maybe missing the start of the season. He will miss the start of the season. I'm not impressed with um, you know, I I I like the Chargers, I like the Broncos, but Bonicks didn't blow me away last year.
SPEAKER_02No, the Broncos are gonna kick ass.
SPEAKER_03And um who knows? But those are my two teams of destiny. So um, there you go. Okay. I might get some gear.
SPEAKER_02I've got I've got a few teams. My teams is of destiny, and this is a lot of this is based on my betting, Dor. Uh the Rams, the Titans. Um the Rams, Titans, uh, the Panthers, and the Saints. Okay, so uh I gave you divisions, wins over and on uh or under. I got Denver over nine and a half, I got Cincy over nine and a half, I got the Saints over seven and a half, I got the Vikings over eight and a half, I got the Giants over seven and a half, Carolina over seven and a half, Jacksonville over nine and a half, Philly over ten and a half, and I got New England under nine and a half.
SPEAKER_03Love it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh Drable, it it's not good out there, brother.
SPEAKER_03It's not good for him.
SPEAKER_02So, you know, I'm I I could see a possible uh regret, and they had the easiest schedule in the world last.
SPEAKER_03They did.
SPEAKER_02Super Bowl loser, I mean Super Bowl loser hangover, uh coach in scandal. Yeah, uh not a good combo. Okay, and then I also got some uh uh parlays here, Dory. Let's hear them. Tennessee plus Carolina plus Minnesota to make the playoffs 31 to 1. Love it. I got New England plus Detroit plus Seattle to miss the playoffs, 18 to 1. I like that too. Purdy, MVP 20 to 1. Like it. Uh defensive rookie of the year, I don't even know the cat. Uh Anthony Hill. Anthony Hill. That's a good one. 40 to 1.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he's on the same uh same kind of situation as uh last year, Swechinger. That's what I'm hoping for, Dark. Good thinking, dude.
SPEAKER_02I got one more. I got uh I placed it today, Kevin O'Connell, coach of the year, 30 to 1. Love it. My Vikings.
SPEAKER_03Anytime Kevin O'Connell is over 20 to 1, jump on it.
SPEAKER_02That's what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Uh who do you real quick, who do you like in the Derby?
SPEAKER_02Uh I I just got my racing form today. I haven't done my handicapping, Dork. Uh, so uh I really can't commit, but I've got a couple of long shots uh that once I hone it down a little bit, I'm leaning toward it. One's called the Puma.
SPEAKER_03The Puma. Love it.
SPEAKER_02Um let's see, who else do I like in there? Uh I've been looking at other races a little closer, uh, first off, uh whatever. But one thing is for sure. The favorite is has the number one post position. It's death.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And so uh it's wide open. Easily you can hit a 12, 15 to 1 shot to win this damn thing.
SPEAKER_03I heard that it's wide open this year, and I like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I'm gonna be working my uh magic uh Friday with the form and uh placing my bet Saturday morning. Okay. And so there it but this is gonna be one of the fun ones because a lot of times the derby, there's like two big horses like last year. Yeah. Journalism sovereignty. Uh and uh one of those two uh maybe three horses are gonna win. This is so wide open, there's five or six horses that could win this, and what no people would go, I wasn't surprised.
SPEAKER_03Okay. So excellent. Yeah. Thanks for joining us. We'll be back in maybe a month, we'll see. Um but if you hit that subscribe button, I think you get notified, right? Yeah, and it's free. It's free. Yeah. Subscribe for free. But thanks for joining us. Enjoy the beautiful weather we're gonna have across the country.
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SPEAKER_03Thanks, kid.
SPEAKER_02Okay, but thanks for watching, Fanny people are going to do that. You have a gambling problem. Well, when they had the gambling problem.
SPEAKER_01So I got to teach y'all how to get around all this stuff, too. If you're gonna have a crew, one of them crews got to know he's gonna jay.
SPEAKER_02You go on the jack. We'll get him out. Come on, see where I'm