When you think about your parish, does the word Thriving, come to mind?

Or another word 😬?

In this episode, Matt interviews Fr. James Mallon, founder and President of Divine Renovation Ministries and author of Divine Renovation: From a Maintenance to a Missional Parish. Hear from a pastor who took a risk, shook up the status quo at his parish, and now has an international team of leaders and coaches helping other parishes to do the same.

Is your parish in need of renovation? Pull up a chair and join the conversation.

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