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Golfweek Amateur Tour - The Podcast
Leadership on the Greens: Donnie Thomas’ Golfweek Tour Success, Record-Breaking Scores, and TPC Scottsdale/French Lick Excitement
Ever wondered how a passion for golf can evolve into leading a thriving tour? Discover the journey of Donnie Thomas from the Jacksonville tour, whose leadership and teamwork have sparked incredible success. In an episode filled with heartfelt stories and valuable insights, we also celebrate the remarkable achievements of players like Lance Lacombe, Joe Jaspers, and Chad Frank, whose record-breaking scores set the bar high for competitive golf. Our travel plans are shaping up, and we're thrilled about the upcoming regional tournaments and the much-anticipated trips to TPC Scottsdale and French Lick Resort, promising a blend of camaraderie and fierce competition.
Our conversation spans the fast-paced end of August, reflecting on the Kiawah Island Regional tournament and the unexpected, yet insightful, data from Dennis. For those balancing careers and passions, we highlight a fascinating story of managing a law enforcement career while directing a tour, showcasing the dedication and camaraderie within our golfing community. The impact of live scoring on the tour is a game-changer, and we delve into the essential role of behind-the-scenes contributors who ensure fair play and integrity across different regions.
From discussing rules around alignment aids to celebrating record-breaking achievements, this episode covers it all. Hear about the unforgettable experiences at Greyhawk and TPC, including a memorable sandstorm encounter. We also provide updates on the shirt contest, aiming to make it more inclusive and exciting for everyone involved. As we gear up for our trips to TPC Scottsdale and French Lick Resort, the friendship and competitive spirit of our golfing community take center stage, promising an episode filled with engaging stories and valuable insights for every golf enthusiast.
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All right, chris, almost through August, wrapped up Kia with us past weekend. Only two regionals left and we're less than 60 days out from national championship.
Speaker 2:Yep, it's been fun. I keep saying that, I don't know why I keep saying that, but it has been, I think, more enjoyable now that we get to do what we get to do. But I'm going to travel out to Scottsdale next couple days and then give it one more chance to hopefully pull a W in the regional this year.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, we're always pulling for you and you know when you're going to be in Scottsdale, I'll be in French Lick, but in the meantime, let's go ahead and get this episode started. Let's go.
Speaker 3:Ladies and gentlemen, golf Week Amateur Tour the podcast Talking about all things Golf Week Amateur Tour, including interviews with tour directors, players and course pros. Now here are your hosts Atlanta Tour Director, tim Newman, and El Paso Las Cruces director Chris Rocha.
Speaker 1:Chris, time is completely flying by, Correct? It's the end of August, we just had Keywood just finished, there's two regionals left coming up this coming weekend and you know we're into September and about 40, 45 days away from national championship. I don't know where all the time has been.
Speaker 2:I don't either. I was telling my members you know when we're doing the pairings, you know when you start the the season, it's right there on top and it's easy to find. And then when you start scrolling down and you realize you're almost at the end, it's unbelievable. Um, so it, it goes by pretty quick, but um, at the end of the day it's. You know, it's been fun and uh, start looking forward to next season.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know, dennis caught us both by surprise last week when he sent us the email with the with the data in it that we generally ask for in September. I was kind of surprised when I got it. I can't believe that he knew that I was going to be asking for a year, real soon.
Speaker 2:Right, it shows that he pays attention to our podcast, which is great. You know, make sure that he's aware of it. But you know we'll talk about more of that data later, but it was nice to see, yeah, the one thing I'm upset with that kind of again.
Speaker 1:You know you and I are going to hell. That slipped through the cracks. You know we talked a couple of episodes ago about the. You know the good things that some of our players are doing outside of the tour. You know the good things that some of our players are doing outside of the tour. And Joe Jaspers did it again and we didn't know about it. He qualified for the US Senior Open and when this comes out it'll be over with. So hopefully we'll have some good news Right, and I'm sure he's going to do well. He always does well. So congratulations to him and good luck, because we're obviously recording this before he goes out to play. But good luck to him and hopefully we'll have some good news next week.
Speaker 2:Right, right, but are you really surprised that he?
Speaker 1:qualified. No, no, I'm not surprised that he qualified, I'm surprised that we didn't pay attention to it. True, true, but then again, when we missed Mother's Day, nothing really surprised me about us, anyway.
Speaker 2:We don't talk about that. We don't talk about that. We don't talk about that.
Speaker 1:So we've been doing this podcast for two years and we've talked to a number of different people and players and tour directors over the entire country. One of the things I looked at recently is there are a couple of tours where we haven't talked to anybody yet, which I was really surprised at, and especially surprised from our next guest that his tour. We haven't talked to him or or any any of his players. So let's welcome in tour director from jacksonville, donnie thomas. Donnie, welcome to the show, bud good.
Speaker 4:Thank you guys for having me and congratulations on the uh podcast success. You guys are doing a great job. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much and I'm sorry that you know we haven't gotten down to talk to anybody in Jacksonville yet. I mean you all have a really big tour, lots of really good players. You know lots of good things going on, so it's surprising that we haven't had you on yet.
Speaker 4:Well, again, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. We are proud of our tour. I'm proud of our members. I'm proud of the two people that I have helping me, Craig Tomlinson and Tad Cruz. They pitch in and really I couldn't do it without them, so I want to thank them for everything they do for the tour as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned, you know, the people that help you. I don't know of any tour director who's doing this by themselves and only by themselves. You know we can't run, you know, good tournaments without that help. You know, for me myself, obviously, I've got Jen, and you know she's one, jen's really one who does all the work. And then I've got you know Al Shepard, who, I mean, I couldn't do anything without him. You know he's instrumental in making sure things go smoothly on game day. Chris, I know you've got help. Yes, across the board.
Speaker 4:Yeah, tad, he really helps me out on the front end with all the setting up the stuff in the computer. And then Craig, he's the day of guy. He helps me with the scoring. And again, when you're running a tour that's 150 members or so you need help and they do a fantastic job.
Speaker 2:I mean any help on the day of the event is great help. I mean I know we just said that a couple of times, but I couldn't think of a better word, because you know, setting up flags, picking up flags, checking in people especially tee times for those directors that play as well Having that help is just tremendous play as well.
Speaker 4:Having that help is is just tremendous. Yeah, because if you're running t times, you know as tour director you want to get out early so that you can get in early and and start passing out trophies and and prizes and stuff. So, uh, yeah, having help being a tour director that plays that's uh, that's very important. Um, I haven't played a lot of tee time events this year, but I definitely like to jump in on those shotgun days and get my rounds in.
Speaker 1:I would much prefer shotgun starts than tee time events. Most of our events this year have been shotgun. We've had two that have been back-to-back tee times and guys come up to me and said Tim, we've gotten used to the shotguns, can we just do them? All the time I said, well, I'll do what I can for you, but sometimes there's nothing I can do.
Speaker 4:Sometimes, you know, some of our players think that we can just call the golf course and say, hey, you know, I want an 8 o'clock shotgun you know, I wish it worked that way. I really do wish it worked that way, but it doesn't. You know, we're at the mercy of their schedule, their membership and, but we're grateful for all of our courses and what they do for us. They roll out the red carpet and I can't say enough about the courses on our schedule this year.
Speaker 1:But you've got a lot of really good courses With being in Jacksonville.
Speaker 4:you've got access to some of the best courses in the country. Yeah, and you know, jacksonville offers up some good courses. Since COVID, you know, golf has exploded and so it's getting a little harder to get in some of those Jacksonville courses. But we're fortunate to play up and down the East coast of Florida and we even go into Georgia, as far up as almost into Brunswick Sanctuary Cove, osprey Cove we have a two-day major where we'll play Sanctuary Cove on day one, we'll play Osprey Cove on day two Very popular with the players because they're just two phenomenal golf courses and then we'll go down to Daytona Beach. We've got LPGA International there, you've got Venetian Bay, plantation Bay so some really great courses to choose from on the East Coast of Florida.
Speaker 1:You didn't even mention some of my favorites. You had King and the Bear and Slammer and Squire.
Speaker 4:Yes, King and the Bear and Slammer and Squire. King and the Bear is closed right now for renovation. They'll open back up again in October. So I'm already in talks with them to schedule a two-day major with them and then we'll also play a single-day event with them next year in 2025.
Speaker 1:Those are really good courses. I probably say this every episode that if anybody who's interested in traveling you should travel to whichever guest we're talking to, but especially where Jacksonville is located, with so many tours really within driving distance, you know, three, four, even five hours within driving distance. That's right. I mean, hop in the car one weekend and go down and play some of these courses, you won't be disappointed.
Speaker 4:No, absolutely not. You know we've also got TPC Sawgrass, tpc Stadium. The senior tour is taking advantage of having some, some events there. Um, and you know, if you're a member of one tour, you're a member of all. So, uh, this weekend I'm headed to uh keowa island, south carolina, uh, to play in the two-day major there. So you know, being a member of the golf week tour really opens up a lot of courses to you that the general public just doesn't always get a chance to play, and that's the great thing about being a member.
Speaker 1:Exactly, but, donnie, you've been a member for 15 years, right?
Speaker 4:Yes, sir, actually probably about 18 years, I think I first joined the tour in 2007. I first joined the tour in 2007. I was just pilling around on the computer and I come across the Golf Week Tour and I contacted the tour director. I played my first event down in Orlando. I was nervous, as I could be, but after you play a few events you realize that you're just amongst good people that enjoy competing in golf and that's what the golf week tour gives you the opportunity to do, no matter what your skill level. You know, we um, we've got guys that are going to shoot 68 and and we've got some that are going to shoot 108. But the thing about it being flighted, you know, each, each flight takes their, their, uh, their game just as serious as the guys that are shooting 68. So it's competitive. So for the person that has that competitive bone in their body, the golf week tour is a great way to, you know, quench that thirst.
Speaker 1:Yep, well, you said you got guys that shoot 68. And I'm going to bring up Lance for a second. Yep, you said you got guys that shoot 68, and I'm going to bring up Lance for a second. Yeah, what's it like to be able to watch this guy play. You know, week in and week out. And just so that everybody understands, you know we talk about Joe Jaspers a lot. You know we talk about some other people a lot and you know Lance's name comes up a lot, but he's probably the quiet one that people don't that I'm assuming. His index chris. Okay, it's sick.
Speaker 4:It's minus 4.2, uh huh I've seen that I've seen players like that I had the uh fortune of playing with him last year at king and the bear and, uh, he shot 62 and and I didn't realize just how low he was until it was me, craig Tomlinson and Lance playing in threesome. And I didn't realize how low he was until we had played about 12, 13 holes and we had about a 15-minute rain delay. And we're sitting under the shed out there waiting for the rain to clear and I looked at live score and he was eight under. And I'm like what the heck? He was eight under after 12 holes and you know the difference between I'll just use my game, for example, in his game, you know 190 yard shot is like me hitting my pitching wedge.
Speaker 4:You know he's going to hit the green from 190 yards to where your average golfer. You know you're going to be chipping after you hit your 180-yard shot. You know it doesn't matter what yardage he's out, you know he's going to knock it up there to where he's got a legitimate shot at birdie. And you know that's how he shoots, so low his, his approach shots. No matter the yardage he's, he's gonna knock it up there pretty tight just be able to watch him play.
Speaker 1:A lot of people say you know how do you get better? When you get better? By by playing with good players and watching good players and trying to emulate and do the things that they do. You know with, course, management, not always hitting driver. But to watch somebody like Lance play smooth swing, very controlled, very deliberate, doesn't get too high, doesn't get too low, just hits the ball, goes. The next one hits the ball again and picks up after three picks up out of the hole.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, he's going to compete in every tournament. He goes to Again that day. Watching him shoot that 62, it was a thing of beauty. And but you know, that's the good thing, that's the great thing about the Golf Week Tour is regardless of what flight you're in. Yes, you know, you're playing against other people at the same skill level, you know, and them guys are competing, just like those guys in Champ Flight. They're out there grinding it out, playing shot by shot, and it's just fun to watch these guys and girls and how seriously they take the game. You know, we've had so many guys that started out with us in D-Flight, you know, and they're now playing B-Flight. You know, this tournament golf has helped them improve their game and that's what I would tell anybody out there listening. If you're looking for a place to play where you can be competitive against others of the same skill level, you know, look us up at amateurgolftournet and and you'll you'll wind up playing, enjoying yourself and meeting lifelong friends exactly how did you become a tour director?
Speaker 1:you said you first started playing and then you yeah I'll tell you exactly.
Speaker 4:I I had searched it up on the internet and um found the golf week tour and I signed up for an event, played the first event, met the tour director and I came back home and I told all my golfing buddies about it because I was very enthusiastic. I had a great time. It was so much fun competing. Well, the very next tournament, two weeks later, I brought seven buddies with me, and so you know that caught the tour director's eye and he said, hey, you know, do you want to help me out? And I said sure. So what I started doing for him was after the tournament. He asked me to write up the article, you know, of all the flight winners and you know, just write a couple of paragraphs, you know, to summarize the golf tournament. And so I started doing that for him. And then he moved on and we got another tour director in. Hoke Board was the tournament director, and then Hoke had it for three years and in 2010, when he could no longer do it, he got in touch with Dennis and said, hey, there's this guy named Donnie Thomas. He's a great promoter of the tour. You know, he would be the guy to to take over after me, if? If so, you should talk to him and me and Dennis talked and, and in 2010, I took over as tour director and my first event we had 17. So just like me going and promoting the tour after I played in my first event.
Speaker 4:You know, as tour directors, we do all we can to promote the tour. You know Facebook ads and emails and this and that, but I'm telling you there's no better promoter than your players. Yes, I agree, if they're excited, they're going to tell people and I love it when I get a new player in and they win their very first tournament. Yes, they are excited, they are ecstatic, and this past weekend we had a female player. She came in and deflight, she shot a really good round and when she left there, I guarantee you she's told a dozen people by now and at some point we'll reap the rewards of that, because she'll be bringing new players in. And so you know, if you can get your players to go out and recruit two players, your tour is going to just blow up.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 4:So that's a lot of fun to watch as well. You know players that they come in, they get excited and then they do just a fantastic job recruiting players for you.
Speaker 1:I got a D-play player who joined this year and he won his first event and he said he's been excited all year and he was the very first person to get the registration in for National Championship. That's how excited.
Speaker 4:He was Nice, nice, so yeah.
Speaker 1:We were talking a little bit offline and as you became the tour director, you had just retired from the sheriff's office.
Speaker 4:Yes, sir, I worked most of my career. I've been in law enforcement for the Florida Department of Corrections for most of my career, but for about four years my last four years before I retired I worked for the Columbia County Sheriff's Department in Lake City, florida. I can remember working midnight shift, getting off at 6 am, packing up and headed to golf tournaments on the golf week tour, you know, and recruited several players from the sheriff's department that players that are still playing on my tour today. That's crazy. Most of our guys are really good guys?
Speaker 1:right, they are. So do your guys know that you were working sheriff's office and work for department of corrections and do they not get, do they not try and get anything over on you because they?
Speaker 4:know you're gonna catch them. Yeah well, I, uh, I'm pretty good at uh reading people, so so I, I, uh, I try to keep a keen eye out for that. You know you, when you've got 60 or 80 guys together and girls, you know you're dealing with all kind of personalities so you, you, over time, you learn those personalities and you, you try to make your pairings, for instance, such that those personalities uh favor each other, you know yes, yes, yes, yes, you're not wrong there.
Speaker 4:You learn, you know who's your faster players, who's your slower players, and then you, you try to do your pairings to. Uh, so those people compliment each other. Yeah, you try, yeah, you try. Yeah, that's right, that's the key.
Speaker 4:That's the key you try, yeah, and you know, something else that that's, I think, was a game changer for our tour is live scoring. Hats off to Jamie who built that program, to to the live scoring for us. I can't thank those guys enough for what they've done. And for those out there that are wondering what I'm talking about, live score is a way that on game day, we, you know, players can input their scores hole by hole and they can keep up with the leaderboard you know, right there on their phone, you know they know where they stand, they know where their skins are holding up, they know how much the skins are worth, and I just think that really added a lot to our tour when LiveScore came along.
Speaker 2:It's a blessing and a curse having that LiveScore, because if you can't handle what you see you might crumble Right.
Speaker 4:Right. Yeah, it's amazing how you hear guys some guys will check it after four holes, some guys don't want to see it at all.
Speaker 2:I'm the one that will check it after hole 16.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and at that point it's either too late or it's just the right time, but after that, I know it's got ahead of you, Yep, but you know for when we, when we send our report in, you know it. It saves some time on the back end for us as tour directors when we send our report to dennis. You know it helps that. It's helped there, but it's also made it interesting for the players. I can remember I think it was 2017 when I first started using LiveScore and I was telling my players about it. You know I had some players grumbling oh, we got to put our score in after each hole. You know that's time consuming. Well, now, if I was to tell them we were going to take it away they wouldn't like it at all.
Speaker 4:You know they're hooked on it.
Speaker 1:They're hooked on it yeah, yeah, I'm with you when we first started using it. Now I'd like to be on. I like being on the golf course. I have my phone around the set and the other thing, and now we can't, we can't get it out of their hands yeah, you know everybody behind the the scenes that helps us out Dennis McCormick, our president, his wife, jennifer Jen Newman.
Speaker 4:You, tim Susan Geller. I can't thank all those people enough. They've not only helped me out, but I mean I consider them when I say lifelong friends. I consider all those people friends.
Speaker 1:Donnie, I appreciate it, but I don't do anything man.
Speaker 4:Well, you do, yes, you do.
Speaker 1:You saw Jen come in, come in the room. She, she does all the work.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, I know she's, she's a, she's a go-getter, that's for sure. But, um, you know, another thing that we have now that we didn't have is that tournament committee that, oh yeah, that keeps uh, you know, looks over the scores each tournament to determine if there's any scores outside our flight parameters. You know that that's a big help, that's a an improvement over what we were doing, because, you know, we have to protect the field and the integrity of of the game.
Speaker 1:You know yeah, I agree that that's been a big improvement for us tour wide and I do sit on that committee and help dennis and and the other tour directors out on that and it's it's good to kind of see what's going on across the country and how other tour directors out on that, and it's good to kind of see what's going on across the country and how other tour directors are managing some of these issues. And number one it gives us ideas. Okay, maybe we should try what they're doing and do a little bit better. Or you know what this person over here is doing doesn't really work and so let's try something else. But you know it also lets the players across the country know that it's being monitored. And so what's going on in jacksonville? Jacksonville's not doing anything any different than the upstate new york or houston or california or whatever. Every everybody is being monitored the exact same way and using the exact same parameters.
Speaker 4:For us to make these decisions and and you know, when you're out there, uh, recruiting, you know that's one of the things that you can tell a prospective player you know to to make, to let them know that, hey, you know, our, our integrity is impeccable and and we want everyone to know that. You know we're not going to let a you know anyone come in and and you know, do what I call a hit and run. You know what I mean, right, um, and and all your players want to know that and they want to know that you're protecting the field. You know absolutely I agree.
Speaker 1:So, chris, you know you gotta cut that out what you're protecting the field you know, absolutely, I agree. So, chris, you know you got to cut that out what you're doing over there. You know you texted me while in the middle of my tournament this past weekend.
Speaker 2:Hey, you wanted to be part of the committee. I was just following rules.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you and I talked about that, and it's good that tour directors across the country are seeing this and are on board with it and not trying to get away with it either. That's the other piece to it. The tour directors are on board and they're not. Well, I'm just going to let this slide. All the tour directors are on board and they're making the phone calls in, they're checking those scores so that it's done right and done properly, which again is a testament to the tour directors. It's done right and done properly, which, which again is a is a testament to the tour directors. And, just like Diane said, you know the the integrity of what we're trying to do.
Speaker 4:And there's some other safeguards in place that that the national office does as well, like having a deadline for flight movement. Yes, Okay, yeah, that deadline for flight movement keeps someone you know, as we get closer and closer to nationals, you know, trying to manipulate their index so that they could get in a lower flight for the national tournament, and I hate to even think that we have to bring that up, but you know we do. But that's just another safeguard there to keep things the way they should be Right.
Speaker 1:I hate to bring it up too, but that's no different than than than any other league that's out there. That's right, they all have to do that. The reason we have to do it is because people try and try and get around just like anything else. Yeah, yeah, I think we do do a good job of keeping that at bay as best we can. Yep, but there, there, but there's no tour out there. There's no league organization out there that is running golf tournaments, even at your local club. They're doing it, they're trying.
Speaker 4:Everyone's doing it. That's right. It's not unique to us. It's just a way to go out and sell your product and let everybody know that, hey, you come play with us. You're guaranteed that everything's going to be done as best we can, the right way. Do we make mistakes? Have I made a few mistakes here and there? Of course I have. I'm human. But we do the best we can to make sure stuff like that don't happen.
Speaker 1:Out of 15 years, 18 years, what's been your best and most memorable round. It may not be your best score ever, but your best round.
Speaker 4:Oh man, university of Florida probably I wasn't a tour director was probably my second or third golf tournament and I was back then. I was still nervous. You know it was a tournament, you know, and I would be in my head more than I needed to be. But we were playing at the University of Florida and I just had one of those days. I shot 71, which is one over par, and anytime somebody comes in and shoots a low score, you know you hear the guys hey, you know. You know you got to move up, you're moving up, you're going to champ flight. You know you hear the guys, hey you know, you know you got to move up.
Speaker 4:You're moving up and you're going to champ flight, you know, and uh, but it was just just one of those days and and those guys, those guys and girls knew that, uh, that was a, you know, just one of those days for me. My, my best round on tour was one over par that's pretty good round.
Speaker 4:That's awesome yeah, it was just hitting those greens and and two putting and and getting out of there. Um, I haven't been able to relive that moment yet, but uh, I'm gonna try to do it this weekend at kiel well, chris, you had a good round this week.
Speaker 1:This past weekend. Was that your best round 75?
Speaker 2:Plus four tied for the best. Yeah, okay, nice.
Speaker 4:Good round, but Don he didn't win.
Speaker 2:I did not win.
Speaker 4:I lost by one. Wow, somebody really played well.
Speaker 2:It happens, but I'm the type that's going to play the best that I can and let the chips fall where they may. So that's what happens.
Speaker 4:That's me too, I want to go as low as I can every time. If that means that at some point I wind up in champ flight competing against Joe Jaspers and Lance Lacombe, so be it Exactly.
Speaker 1:Plus you get to play with them, and then you'd really get to see it firsthand oh absolutely.
Speaker 4:It's amazing. My Joe Jasper story is I don't know how many years ago it was, but the weather wasn't all that great and we were playing in Palmetto Dunes on the Jones course and it has that par three that goes out to the ocean. I can't remember what hole that is, but the wind was blowing in 30 miles an hour and the tees were all the way back and a lot of the guys were having to hit three wood or driver. And Joe steps up there on the tee on that par three, the wind just gailing in his face, with a four iron and just launches a bullet to about three feet from the pin taps it in for birdie, he's like what's the big deal, guys?
Speaker 4:What's the big deal? It's just a four iron.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, that's great.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's a good golfer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he is. Well, you've got four tournaments left this year. If somebody could only come to one of them, which one would it be?
Speaker 4:that would be kenderloo forest and baldosta, georgia. Oh yeah, okay, it's, uh, it is a beautiful. I put it right up there with tpc sawgrass. It is that nice of a golf course. They play the corn fairy plays a tournament there every year. It's immaculate. Um, it's, it's got everything you'd want in a golf course. It's just hard to to describe it. It's. It's as top notch as you can get. It's a beautiful place. A lot of uh, hills and and valleys and ravines. Um, a beautiful, beautiful place. Um, Kinderloo forest golf club in Valdosta, Georgia.
Speaker 1:I've heard good things about that. I've got a member who lives down that way and, uh, he keeps saying we need to go down there and play. I said number one, it's, it's way too far for us, Right, he? He says nothing but good things about that course.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a special place and you know we play it twice a year. We'll play it early, like April, may, and then we'll play it again in September. And you know Dennis runs these spiffs right for us tour directors, you know, on our membership drives and stuff like this. And I won it one year because I had seven people join in September just to play that Kinderloo. Oh man, they joined the tour with just two events left because they wanted to compete at Kinderloot. So that kind of tells you right there what kind of place that is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's awesome. Well, donnie, thank you so much for spending some time with us tonight. I really do appreciate it, and you know we don't get to see each other much, but I do enjoy our time together at National Championship.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I look forward to seeing both of you guys there. And again, congratulations on the success of this podcast, and it's truly appreciated that you guys gave the Jacksonville tour some time tonight to brag on what we're doing down here. Well, you guys are doing great things so keep it up, all right Take care. Now Take care, bye-bye.
Speaker 2:Tim, you know, know, you mentioned it. We're almost to the point where we've interviewed somebody from every tour, which is awesome, um, but to get these tour directors on, you know, it's just a little bit special, because we get to hear what's going on in their tours and, uh, give them the spotlight for a second yeah, and donnie's been around for for for a for a long, long time.
Speaker 1:And you know, as I, as I said in there, it's hard to believe that we haven't had somebody from Jacksonville tour on over two years. Not not just, not just Donnie, but go back to our episode a couple weeks ago when I said we had a 62, it was Lance Right who we forgot, and it's kind of funny how that kind of plays into things. And so, lance, sorry we forgot about you, but we didn't really forget about you and you know you're definitely due and you know we owe you a segment on here. So whenever you want to come on, obviously we're happy to have you on the Jacksonville tour. They do a lot of good things. Good things, I mean, they got a lot of great courses. Donnie's a great tour director, like I said, he's been. He's been around for forever and as a retired sheriff and and correctional officer, I I can imagine nobody gets away with too much stuff down there oh, I'm pretty sure it's a tight run ship over there with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah so we've got, uh, you know, two regions coming up. You know we we've talked about already, you know, uh, kea would just wrapped up this past weekend, so that we're down to two. You're heading off to sc Scottsdale. When are you leaving?
Speaker 2:We're leaving Wednesday Going to do this thing called Wolf Creek with the boys. It's kind of like a water park retreat, kind of spend some time with them. Thursday and then Friday I got a practice round at Greyhawk Talon course, and then Saturday, sunday, is a tournament.
Speaker 1:Have you ever played at Greyhawk? You ever played at Greyhawk.
Speaker 2:I've played the Raptors course, but not the Talon I played. Raptors last year.
Speaker 1:You know what I love? Those two courses, love them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so can't wait, you know, before the kids, you know, got older and went off to college. You know, Jen and I used to go out to Scottsdale for a week and took lessons and played all over the place and, Greyhawk, it was some of our favorites. One time we were playing there and you could see a sandstorm coming in and I said, because we were on 18th hole. And she said, well, we should just pick it up and go. I said, Dom, I got to finish this hole, it's 18. We just need to finish and get over with. And we, literally we finished the hole, drove the cart over to our car and got in the car just as the sand started pelting us and we were in there for probably about half an hour. And if you've never been in one of those sandstorms, I'm sure that you have. Sand gets everywhere, I mean it. It, it gets into the car, it's, it's, it's, it's. Oh, yeah, you, you, you're tasting it. I mean it.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, but it Over the course of the weekend you're playing. You know three really good courses. Yeah, I am Honestly TPC. I'm more excited for champions course and stadiums course, because it makes me think a little bit more. So I'm excited for that one, and the fact that I had to miss it last year kind of has a little itch ready to go?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll take it easy. Don't hurt yourself, don't make sure that back's in good shape.
Speaker 2:I've been drinking plenty of water. I think we'll be okay.
Speaker 1:When we had Gabe on earlier in the year, you know we talked about that champions course and how that's kind of really kind of underrated.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, it is. It makes you think more than stadium, because stadium you can, just you can hit it, and if you know some holes, if you're right or left, you're still okay. But, champions, if you're right or left, there's no, there's no help for most of the holes. So, uh, it makes you really put away the driver and figure out what you want to help.
Speaker 1:the tee box Is your, is your uh foursome already done yet.
Speaker 2:But I'm interested to see who I get, Because I know a bunch of Arizona guys. So if I get Arizona guys it's going to be a lot of trash talking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was somebody else. There's somebody I know who's playing that I meant to tell Gabe to pair you with. I can't remember who it is.
Speaker 2:You better get to him quick, jamil.
Speaker 1:Jamil. Edward, remember we had yeah texted. You got Gabe's number versus just text him right now. Tell him you want.
Speaker 2:You want to be paired with Jamil but yeah, I mean we're gonna have a good time out there. You know, we do a different contest every year. We started off with really El Paso versus Arizona and then we kind of split everybody else. But we did the map and the western states have almost the identical amount of players as every other tour. Right, so we're doing the western states versus everybody else. That's awesome. So three, the top three lowest scores each day from each flight, um, get you know their combined scores and then whoever has the lowest total at the end wins and uh, it's a lot of fun. You know things to do like that. Uh, incorporating the way I do, I do par three total instead of CTPs, but we're gonna do that as well. Um, and who knows what the future holds? Maybe we'll do a two-man like we do at Nationals one year. We'll see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you've got, you know, 178 players out there. So how does this actually work? I know you've got half the field on stadium day one, the other half on champ, and then you flip it which, correct? Which flights are which? Then you flip it which, correct?
Speaker 2:Which flights are which. So I believe this year it's Champ and D flight together and they start on Champions course. Okay, and then A, b and C will be on stadiums to start up.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, that's really all you can do and it's great that there's those two courses and you can do that. You know when we did the regional at Whistling Straits that one year I'd asked if we could do, you know, straits one day and we're half half fielding Straits one day and the other half over at Black Wolf Run. But they didn't want us taking up the straights course for you know, for two days in a row For the whole day. Right, and you know in one sense, you know, on the straights course I'm glad that everybody got to. You know, to do tee times that way you really kind of play the course the way it was meant to do and I think if you do a shotgun there, number one when you've got to walk all the way out to to as far.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for a hole I would have been so mad, but but it is what it is and but, yeah, I think players got a much better. You know, is it? You know, being a straight course, I think they've got a much better experience. You know, uh, with it with a tee event, even though we were there, you know, if you remember, we started at 6.30 in the morning and it was dark when we got off. That was a long day, yeah it was For you all.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure it was a very long day. Yeah, I got to sleep in a little bit and show up a little bit later because I was on the second part of the tea time.
Speaker 1:So appreciate you on that. There was one or two groups I had to really push around, you know, to get them finished not mine.
Speaker 1:Uh, uh, that's for sure you know you're gonna be in Scottsdale and I'm heading to French Lick. You know when I made my arrangements. Yeah, I originally thought, you know, I was flying into Indianapolis or something like that, but we actually fly into Louisville, which isn't too far from Kentucky and the Bourbon Trail there. There you go. The problem is couldn't get a decent flight in to be able to go to do the bourbon trail on saturday and uh, we got an early flight out on tuesday because it's like you know, you're flying in and out of hilton head.
Speaker 1:you know you're, you don't. You don't really go anywhere non-stop. So you got to make the connector and I'm always of the mindset, especially when you're flying during the week, you need to be on that first flight that way you know you're going to get out.
Speaker 1:And eventually you know you'll get home Right. So if we can get there at a decent time on Saturday, no delays, I may be able to get over to maybe a couple of distilleries. But I'm not holding my breath on it and I haven't let me know how it goes. I haven't mentioned that to Jen yet, so I'm I'm going to try and keep her off of this so that not listen to the podcast. You know, until next week after, after we get back, so we'll see what happens there. You go there you go.
Speaker 2:Good luck with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, I think we. I think we already know how that's going to work out. So, but anyway, I'm looking forward to this coming weekend. I know you are. You know we're less than 60 days out from national championship and yeah it, yeah, it's funny. There's a lot of things going on in national offices. They prepare for national championship, and I just happened to have a conversation with another tour director Maybe it was Thursday, wednesday, thursday and Jen starts walking in my office and we're talking about national championship and she chimes in.
Speaker 1:She says well, you know, I need to stop you two from talking. You know you're making plans and Tim doesn't even know we're talking about him and the podcast and the things that they're going to be doing yet. So I saw your face, okay, saw your face. So you know there's things going on that we don't even know about yet, right? So the plans have already started, which to me, is great. I hate the unknown, though I do as well, you know, because one of the things I told the tour director I was talking about I said you know, I'm not sure where I'm going to be, but this is what I do, know, right, I just know from history. You know, on Sundays I'm out for Sunday, just I'm out. You know there's too much with me going on. You know, thursday we've got registration and actually Jen asked me what time we were doing the live feed. I said you know, chris, and I haven't talked about it yet.
Speaker 2:We have some ideas. We're reading all the time Exactly.
Speaker 1:Well, no, this is for national championship.
Speaker 2:Well, I know that, but let's get through this regional first.
Speaker 1:That's what I said. I said, you know, we haven't even talked about it yet. And she said well, I need copy. I need copy now. I said just tell them we're going to be there. Just Just tell them we're going to be there. Just tell them we're going to do it when the rope drops, so. But I know they're working on it and so, again, that's exciting. So, as you're listening, understand that things are going to be trickling out. Go ahead and get registered and get paid, because you don't want to miss it.
Speaker 2:That's for sure. Right, I'm in the process of getting that done. Know, you scolded me last time, but I'm in the process getting that done. So I'll be on that roster real soon and then, uh, it'll start. You'll probably start hearing some knee shake once they see that my name on that roster.
Speaker 1:I'm sure that's what it's gonna be. Oh, but it's, it's gonna be a good time. I'm, you know, again we're. I know you're. You're excited and looking forward to it. I am, and it's going to be a good time. I'm, you know, again we're. I know you're excited and looking forward to it, I am, and it's almost bittersweet right, because it's what we look forward to all year. Yeah, really, the first, you know, two weeks after, I think. You know we all need a break, which is fine, but then the anticipation starts for, you know, the next year.
Speaker 2:Almost immediately, most definitely, yep, most definitely. And it's just getting ready for all of that, and you know having to go and do our schedules once again, exactly.
Speaker 1:I copied you on a text message this morning that I got from Casey from the Tampa Tour, and I love these texts I really do because it shows, number one, that players are listening, but they're also thinking about the rules as well, right, okay, so I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to read a text to you. Hey, tim, this is Casey from Tampa tour. I heard you on the podcast with Roger the rules guy. You sound like you have a good understanding of the rules, so I have a question. Maybe you can answer for me. Well, I'd like to think I would go to hand on it, but I think you know when, when you can record things and and in case you, sometimes you don't know what we actually say on here. So, but I do appreciate the the uh, the good words on that. But anyway, if I'm standing on the tee box and throw a tee about four or five feet out in front of the tee markers, can I use that tee as an alignment reference point? Thanks for your help, and I just I thought about it for a second and I shot, shot him back something and again, use that T as an alignment reference point. Thanks for your help and I just I thought about it for a second and I shot him back something.
Speaker 1:And again, you know when I do, when I did that, I was thinking Roger has told us, you know, in the past, you know. You said, you know rules and stuff that maybe we don't necessarily talk about. Okay, right, here's my first, here's my initial response to him. I said, yeah, that's a great question. My initial reaction is no, but I'm also thinking it has something to do with the T's and they're special because they're not equipment and can be shared. What would you think? Now I know you got the text message from Roger. What was your initial?
Speaker 2:Well, before I got the response from Roger, I initially said no, okay. And the reason why I know it was no, I knew it was no, no, it was no, anyways, it was a no-no, it was a no-no Is because I aligned myself, you know, with the whole by looking behind it, and I was told you can't, you can't throw something out there to help you, okay. When I was told you can't throw something out there to help you, okay. When I was taught that, that you have to find a spot on the ground or something that's already there and you don't actually put it there, and I said that's fair, fair enough. So I already knew the answer. And when Roger responded, I was happy that I knew the correct answer. Well, he sent a follow-up text too, right?
Speaker 1:Okay, so the follow-up text was kind of added some some context to it. His follow-up text says I was just thinking that if, if I walked onto a tee box and a previous player left a tee there, I should be able to use it as an alignment aid, why can't I put my own tee out there too for the same purpose? Just curious. And my response there was you're talking about two different things, right? Two very different things.
Speaker 1:If a tee is already there, that's different than you putting a tee there. So my response was that is something different. So say, someone hits your tee shot and the tee is there when you walk up. You can use that as an alignment aid. Because, number one, you didn't put aid because number one.
Speaker 2:You can't touch it, or?
Speaker 1:move it right. You didn't put it there and the intent of when that person hit that ball was not to use a team as an alignment right, so right.
Speaker 1:But then roger came back and casey, this is covered in rule 10.2. If an object or mark is there already, that's fine, but a player cannot put something down as an alignment aid. It's a two-stroke counting. If they do and Chris, you and I bingo, got it right we get our gold star. We do, we do. But that's a good question. And again, I love those questions, send them to us, because again it shows that people are listening and two, that they're actually thinking about the rules and how important they are. So, casey, nice job bud.
Speaker 2:Right, and I mean with the rules changing. I mean I feel like the rules have changed a lot in the last what four years maybe that people might not even be aware of the rule changes. So definitely send us any questions. We're more than happy to cover them.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely. So we got the shirt contest. This is the last week of August. Get your shirts in and you need to be entered by Saturday. Yes, yes, yes, be it Saturday's last day to enter and we do have some news. We kind of changed the rules slightly a little bit, you know, to answer some concerns and some emails and text messages from you all as members, to make it a little bit more. How would you say, chris, fair, I don't know the fair.
Speaker 1:We're open. We're open and inclusive. How about that? We're open and inclusive.
Speaker 1:Right, and, like you say, it's our podcast, we can do whatever we want there we go and what we're doing is, you know, we've had two players that, out of the seven months, had won five of the seven months, and so what we've done is we've talked to them and we've told them, out of the months that they've won, for them to choose the one shirt that they wanted to go forward with, and then, for those other months, we're reaching back out to the people that either came in second or third place and giving them an opportunity to be in the bracket contest with the shirt that they came in either second or third place, depending on where they finished and who's already in.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, I mean, you know, keep in mind, this is our first time ever doing it. Um, we want to do it again. We don't want this to be the only time we did it. Um. So, yeah, there are some growing pains and there are some learning moments for you and me, uh, but I think this allows us to have eight different people representing their tours than four, Four right.
Speaker 1:And that was one of the whole reasons of doing this was, you know, to get people from across the country in different tours into this. So we'll look at how we did this moving forward and make some adjustments for next year or what have you. But, um, I'm excited, that I'm excited, number one, that we're getting that we are going to have eight different people, maybe from eight different tours. I don't know. No, not, not, no, no, absolutely not.
Speaker 3:At least six tours, cause I got two Cause that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1:So eight people from seven tours, there you go, hopefully. So we'll see, we'll see how that goes. But again, get your, get your shirt, entries in for the month of august and, um, because we, we do again, we, we have a quick turnaround, got it and yeah, have the vote and then we've got the, the bracket that we have to put together, and then it'll be three weeks of voting in the bracket quick voting too.
Speaker 2:Like a week, a week's worth of voting. So get ready. You know, even even if you're part of the bracket, get ready to start um, putting yourself out there, because you're going to need to collect all these votes that you can, exactly, yeah it's going to be fun.
Speaker 1:A lot going on the next, you know, 60 days, really looking forward to seeing how things play out. And you know, as we, as we get closer to the end of the season, you know one of the things that you and I generally look at is stats for the tour, things that have gone on and you know we you know we mentioned earlier when we were talking to Donnie we missed Joe Jaspers qualifying for US Senior Open, us Senior Amateur excuse me, us Senior Am. I got my dates wrong. The first round is on Saturday so he won't be finished by the time this goes live, but hopefully he'll still be playing in the match play portion. But obviously we wish him well and this is his. He's qualified three of the last four years. There you go.
Speaker 2:I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I really I'm not surprised, especially being able to talk to him and got to meet him last year when I had to do his interview. So he's a baller and good for him. Good luck out there, Exactly.
Speaker 1:Let's look at some numbers that I'm not sure that many people really understand, and so, for these, these just are our champ flight numbers. And so, for these, these just are our champ flight numbers. It was the lowest score for the seniors in the history of the tours. So, out of 27 years, the lowest, lowest score recorded in senior tour history.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I know it because I see it, yeah, it's 64. And that's been done twice, once by Chad Frank in. Oh boy, chad Frank did that a couple weeks ago, in July, wasn't that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, orlando Falcons fire. Yeah, someone was on fire.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and Randy Ponty in June of 22 from Louisiana tour at Oak Wing golf course?
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a Tamaka Trails one. I played that course this year. Yeah, you did, didn't you, that's not an easy course 65.
Speaker 1:That's pretty good. But when we go over to the champ side we've got low score 62. And that's been done three times.
Speaker 2:Three times One as early as last year. Yeah From Andrew.
Speaker 1:Yeah, from Andrew Buse. Yeah, that was actually a year ago, august 26th, andrew Buse. A year ago, august 26th, andrew Buse and Lance Lacombe did it. You know who you know Donnie just talked about did it in August of 22. So just over two years ago. But the first time it was done was Jeff Allen from Myrtle Beach and he did that on September 16th.
Speaker 2:He did that in September of 2016. Well, look at the next ones, the 63s.
Speaker 1:You see those two yeah.
Speaker 2:Champ flight, day two, day three.
Speaker 1:Well, yes, so day three was actually a 64, but that propelled him to the win. Yep, hb was a 63, lowest round in national championship history. Yes, sir, that's solid right there. But again, if you turn around and Genki Sadato shot a 64 the very next day, which propelled him to national championship. Now you know I've talked about Hampton Hall in the past and how much I like it. One of the reasons why I like it is because it's so wide open. Oh, I love Hampton Hall. Yeah, and you put those champ play guys out there.
Speaker 2:I'm not shooting in the 60s, but I think I shot pretty well out there. Well, why not? I don't make enough birdies? Not yet, not yet. We're working on it. We won't go there, we're celebrating these low scores.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you're going to be just fine, seriously.
Speaker 2:There's another Hampton Hall day three from 22.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lance, lacombe, lance.
Speaker 2:Lacombe 65. Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 1:So it's these Champlain guys? It's no joke, it really isn't, you know. No, I mean, you got Joe Jasper's name has been showing up there A couple of 64s, Jeff Wong 64 at Dolphin Head. Goodness gracious.
Speaker 2:A lot of 67s, that's for sure. The list we got is 200 names, 200 scores of Hello Park.
Speaker 1:Jeff Wong 10 times.
Speaker 2:Joe Jaspers 10 times.
Speaker 1:Matt Spruill from Tidewater has been on there a bunch of times. Chuck Spears from Louisiana North we met him, interviewed him. Brian Quackenbush he qualified for US Senior Open last year. He's on there four times. Will Morgan four times. You say what, will Morgan?
Speaker 2:Four times. Wes Stratter, yeah Eastern North Carolina, yeah Six times Six times Lance.
Speaker 1:How many times has Lance been on there? One, two, three, four, Eight times? Hb's on there. How many times? Five times Five, I believe. How about that? Corbin Holt? Yeah, I talked about him a bunch.
Speaker 2:Out of those 200, though, there's only eight that are in national championship. How about that? And guess, out of those eight, which course has the most?
Speaker 1:Oh, it's got to be Hampton Hall.
Speaker 2:Seven of the eight? Yeah, all in the same year, yeah, but good, I mean good form though, you know. Right, two day ones, one day two and four day threes. That's pretty awesome. So Dennis was being nice to him, that's what it was. He wanted to see fireworks, yeah, but you know what People did it. He's still going to make the shot.
Speaker 1:He's still going to do it. Right, you still have to go out and do it. That's the other thing there, right? So, but this is pretty awesome and I'm glad Dennis sent this list over. You know, and some of the other things, that the record for a number of wins in a year by a Champlain player is 14. Yep, and if you think about it, on average, tours only have 12 to 13 tournaments, maybe 14. Some will have more, but averages, you're talking 12 or 13. And for somebody to win 14, that's some good playing. And that was done by Jim Gallagher in 2009. He had 14. That's some good playing. That was done by Jim Gallagher in 2009. He had 14. And, as of right now, our tattoo guy, luke Boehm, he has 12 this year.
Speaker 2:That's probably going to be a new tattoo.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, and that would put him as a tie for second all-time for number of wins over the course of the year at 12. That's crazy. That's a lot of wins over the course of the year at 12.
Speaker 2:That's crazy, that's a lot of wins.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of playing. Yeah, I can't imagine that. You know, even playing all that time, you're not going to win every event, right, right. And we know Luke travels, yes, luke travels. So, jim Gallagher, in 2009 he played 22 tournaments. Jesus, he traveled a lot, he played. He played 22 rounds okay and wins 14 of them yeah that's, that's solid effort right there.
Speaker 2:I think the most I've won in a season was four, so I'm quite a waste, but it is nice when you win multiple ones per year. It is.
Speaker 1:Now I wonder how Ed Monroe from Milwaukee did this year, I know. I mean I saw him do a bunch of posts with trophies. I wonder how many he won this year.
Speaker 2:No, it's just pictures with trophies.
Speaker 1:Oh man, ed, I believe in you buddy, I believe in you, wonder how many he won this year. No, it's just. It's just pictures with trophies. Oh, man, and I, and I believe in you, buddy, I believe in you. But yeah, I mean some of these numbers, most all-time wins. Joe jaspers was 79, of course, again. So 79 wins, man, man, think about it Crazy. And Joe's been with Dennis, I think, all 30 years, the whole time.
Speaker 2:Right, and seven of those are national championships, yep. Seven of those are national championships.
Speaker 1:It's good to see these numbers going back Because, again, 30 years, seeing what some of these people have done over that know, over that time frame, it's impressive. It definitely is, you know, to say the least. You know when Luke was going for his 13th win, he was playing a tournament in Minnesota, playing against Matt Foch. Yeah, you know, matt's a sleeper man.
Speaker 2:He's quiet, he's quiet. He's quiet to begin with, but I'm pretty sure his golf game's the same. He'll just lull you to sleep and the next thing you know He'd beat you by 20 strokes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing him coming up here in a few weeks.
Speaker 2:I'm looking forward to it. Wife's coming up so everybody gets to see what I have to deal with. Just kidding, not what I have to deal with. She has to deal with me exactly every day. I don't know, I bless her heart, but uh, it's gonna be a fun time. I can't wait. And I gotta get that name of that candy shop because I know she'll love to go there pops, pops, pops, candy shop. But I'm gonna forget, so I'm just gonna ask you when we get there. Got a lot going?
Speaker 1:on. I know you're going to have a good trip and you're going to do well. Obviously, you and I are going to talk about when we're going to be live on Monday, next Monday, on Labor Day, yes, but we'll talk. Obviously, we'll talk before then and I'm sure that you're going to do just fine.
Speaker 2:No doubt I appreciate it. I'm excited, Especially with the score I shot at my last local event. It's encouraging so, because I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 1:I do. I expect from you all the time.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, with the way I was playing lately, I wasn't expecting it. We'll be all right. I'm excited, I can't wait. All right, man.
Speaker 1:It's good seeing you, as always. I know you're going to do well. Tell Gabe and I know you and I talked, but I'm hoping that there's a bunch of Atlanta guys going out there to TPC Scottsdale. I'm hoping that Gabe can put you with with Jamil or, you know, some of the other guys from Atlanta. You're going to love them. They're great guys You're going to have. If you do, you're going to have a great time. Oh, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1:You're going to have a great time anyway, but I, you know, I just you know some that are going out. There are a ton of fun You're going to love it.
Speaker 2:I'm excited, I can't wait. All right, my friend. Tell them to come say hi, I will. Will you enjoy yourself?
Speaker 1:Anybody who's?
Speaker 2:listening, come say hi Always, always, always. All right partner. We'll talk to you soon. Enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1:Take care and drive safe, yep.
Speaker 2:Likewise yep likewise you.
