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Champion Stories and Strategies: Golfweek Amateur Tour & Senior Amateur Tour National Championship Stories
Discover the secret strategies behind the remarkable performances at the 2024 Golfweek Amateur Tour and Senior Amateur Tour National Championship. Join us as we reveal how Chris Rocha's unwavering focus on personal performance secured him the Director's Cup, despite not winning the National Championship itself. You'll hear firsthand accounts from winners like Bryce Benson, who triumphed over challenging weather at the Atlantic Dunes course with a stunning round of 73, showcasing the grit and tenacity required to conquer such daunting conditions.
Immerse yourself in engaging conversations with champions like Sokati Pavese and Michael Anderson. Sokati opens up about her strategic mindset and composure that led to her three-stroke victory on the Jones course, while Michael shares his unexpected success and the role of camaraderie in his triumph at the Country Club of Hilton Head. Both winners paint a vivid picture of the beautiful courses and favorable weather that made the tournament a truly unforgettable experience. We also explore the heartwarming journey of a D-Flight golfer who navigated personal struggles to achieve success, offering deep insights into the emotional and strategic dimensions of competitive golf.
Feel the tension and excitement as we celebrate Robert's rare back-to-back victory at the Senior Amateur Tour National Championship. His story is one of intense pressure and strategic gameplay, with a thrilling finish and a nail-biting showdown at the Hills course. Listen in as Robert reflects on his historic win and shares his eagerness for the 2025 Senior Amateur Tour. This episode is packed with stories of resilience, camaraderie, and the pursuit of excellence, capturing the spirit of the Golfweek Amateur Tour and its remarkable participants.
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Ladies and gentlemen, golf Week Amateur Tour the podcast Talking about all things Golf Week Amateur Tour, including interviews with tour directors, players and course pros. Now here are your hosts atlanta tour director tim newman and el paso las cruces director chris rocha chris, we've got.
Speaker 2:The 2024 National Championship is over. We're getting ready to interview all these winners. Yep, you had a really good week. You didn't win National Championship, but you won Director's Cup. Yep, you accomplished some goals that you wanted to accomplish. I think you won you some money, and I'm not sure if I should get a cut of that money or not. My agent you won you some money and I hope that you learned something from that whole piece, and especially what I was trying to tell you the other night when we were talking. You came down here to win the national championship. Don't worry about what other people are doing, worry about you. Play your game and things will take care of themselves, and they did. You didn't win, but you played really well.
Speaker 3:No, I agree. And that actually came into effect today when I started realizing I can only control what I can do. And at one point I mean I started off with, I think, four or five straight bogeys, okay, and went on a seven par, seven hole par run and had a slip up on the next hole that took a double. But I went and, you know, ran to the car, looked at the leaderboard because it hasn't updated yet and I was fourth place, which is crazy to even think about. Um, and you know me, we've talked about I'm not as a board leader, but I wanted to see, with these seven pars, where it got me and just be playing my game and let everybody else fall right.
Speaker 3:I mean, out there today, bogeys were pars and pars were birdies, um, so it really helped out and you know, came down clutch uh director's cup first year it was one of my goals and uh came down to a playoff here on hole 18 and uh stuck it to three, three feet maybe, missed the birdie putt, tapped in the par and still uh secured the victory. But I mean it was great to hit that shot from 105 yards, yep, and we had a gallery out there, I'm sure. So that was cool to hear them cheer and go crazy and then see if it's over here. You know, don't three-putt, we don't want to see a three-putt. It's like dude really. But no, it was a fun week.
Speaker 2:Played really good good and I'm happy with the way I played. I'm proud he really is. It's like next year he's gotta be our friend slave. We're working on that. So we've got five winners coming in. Uh, there's. There was some some really good scores today. Across Overall for the weekend I think scores were generally high. The weather was nice. It was a little windy Friday and Saturday, today's a little bit calmer, so scores came down a little bit. But some of the winners somebody shot one under at Atlanta, no, no, no, even par winners. Somebody shot one under at Atlanta Dunes, even par. I think it was even par at Atlanta Dunes. That's solid.
Speaker 6:On Friday Come on, dude Right.
Speaker 3:That's solid. Come on now. He was going dirt.
Speaker 2:Everybody else was the next closest one. That was plus six, Right.
Speaker 3:That's a solid player right there, solid player.
Speaker 2:I mean across all the flights. There were some really good scores throughout the weekend, whether they were one-offs here or there, right, but again, friday and Saturday wins were up. Scores were generally a little bit higher. Today was better, so scores were a little bit lower, but I'm looking forward to talking to all of our champions, for sure. So, uh, so, scores a little bit lower. Scores were a little bit lower, but I'm looking forward to talking to all of our champions, for sure. So let's get into it and, uh, see how they did. Yeah, all right, welcome to the 2024 golf week amateur tour national championship. We're at the hills course in palmetto dunes and we have our first national champion of the of the year with us, chris, uh, which you know that. We understand that there are five flights, but we champ is one that everybody really looks at. You know they're the ones that really set the tone for my entire tour and this weekend, uh, he set the tone, he really set the tone. Um, so let's welcome. Welcome, bryce Benson from the Dallas tour. Bryce, congratulations and Thank you.
Speaker 2:Let's start off with Atlantic Dunes. You know the two toughest courses we play are the Hills course, where we're sitting at right now, and Atlantic Dunes, and Atlantic Dunes is way tougher than Hills course, and you played there Friday. The winds were up, the greens were very fast and you smoked the field. You shot one over 73. Closest score to you was six strokes back, excuse me, five strokes back as 78. I mean, I'm looking at your card. You had four bogeys, three birdies. Tell us about it, bud. I'm shocked. I'm not shocked. I'm shocked that it was a 73 and then, with everybody else, was so far back.
Speaker 7:I was just like I kept it in play all day. I was hitting it all good off. The tee Drains were so fast, my putting my speed was really good, so I just kept it good off. The tee Drains were so fast, my putting my speed was really good, so I just kept it in play, just played smart and never really made a big number.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the key, I don't care what flight you're in, that's really the key. Right, with champ flight there's no triple bogey rule, so you really have to make sure that you don't get a 9 or a 10, get a big number, because you know, in champ fights there's really no coming back.
Speaker 7:yeah, mostly a lot of irons off the tee. Keep it in play and make sure I give myself an opportunity to make a birdie or easy par ish right.
Speaker 3:and then you go golden bear correct, yep, shoot a, yep, shoot a 71. Yep. Obviously it's an easier course, but how did you feel going into that course?
Speaker 7:I just went to play golf. I wouldn't necessarily say it was easier, yes, but it was still trees everywhere Right Missed it off a tee. We were going to be in a lot of trouble, and just the kind of same thing. Just make sure I hit it in the fairway, put it on the green, give myself an opportunity. If I? Kind of same thing. Just make sure I hit in the fairway, put on the green, give myself an opportunity. If I make birdie, great if I make par move on next hole and keep playing golf.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and again, you still had a relatively clean card two bogeys with, with, with three birdies and, but you only let one person gain any strokes when it was only and they only gave one stroke on you. So I mean you, you really built on your lead yeah, you just just like I said just.
Speaker 3:I just keep the three. It's a three-day tournament. He's just focused.
Speaker 2:And he's not like us regular people, right? You know we all like JoJo the circus clown and get all worded up. So you know you leave the course. You know golden bear, you know you've got. I think it was a five or six stroke lead. What was your thinking? You know you've got. I think it was a five or six stroke lead. What was your thinking? You know, from the time you left until you know you teed off in the first group of swan. If you say just keep it in play, I'm going to scream.
Speaker 7:What were you thinking? Hopefully I wake up in the morning and keep playing golf. To be honest, I mean, yeah, it was a lot harder today with that lead and then trying to like obviously you want to build on it and for me my game kind of just went downhill today but I was able to still keep playing. Good, but it wasn't.
Speaker 2:What you still won by four stroke. I did, I did, yeah, I did, it was me, and you played in a stacked group, I mean.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, Second place Jeff.
Speaker 2:And then, yeah, in the group right behind you I played leader last year. Well, Joe's a seven-time national champion.
Speaker 7:Yeah, good golfer.
Speaker 2:Lance Lacombe. We've had him on the show a couple times. He's gotten Corbin I mean all guys that we talk about on a regular basis and again Jeff was right behind you, yeah, and I think at one point he was actually two strokes. Yeah, it was close and I kept watching the looter boy and uh, and you know so, when you hey and again, this is not on anybody, but when you beat that stack field, that's that says something. And I would say, you shot 78 today. Is that what was 78?
Speaker 7:yeah, okay, that that's wasn't very good, that it was good, and it's good enough, it's respect and and again.
Speaker 2:So you know we, you know we're. We're going to talk to, I think, the C-Flight player that had a pretty good lead as he was coming down the stretch. I was talking to someone I said look, he's going to need stroke leading If he's a smart golfer and I know the guy and he is he's just going to. He's not called for pens, he's not going to do anything stupid, he's going to just dink and dunk. And if he takes a bogey, it's fine, don't take a double, don't take a triple, he doesn't need birdies to win, which almost makes it harder when you get inside your own head, yeah, but it makes it hard because you're like, oh, just be protected, instead of you're one up and you've got to really play golf and keep playing.
Speaker 7:It's a big mind game out there when you're winning by a shot.
Speaker 2:But it's also a big mind game when you shoot a 100% yeah 100%.
Speaker 7:Why am I still playing golf, exactly?
Speaker 2:Exactly. So what's next for you? Because this is a really big accomplishment Again, playing the courses that you played and the conditions that you played in what was next week?
Speaker 7:I guess just keep playing some golf week tour in dallas, all right I heard that.
Speaker 2:I heard there's no competition in dallas. They only get like two or three people. They only get like two or three people at a tournament out there I'm not not much.
Speaker 7:I'd take the dallas field over, or anybody out here. Well, right now I would too. You did, you did. I mean there's a bunch of guys that didn't show up that are just as good. So who's your big competition in Dallas? All of them. Phillip's probably really good. Mason really good All of them. It just depends what. We're playing golf, we can shoot in the 60s any day. And the champ you got to challenge them to get them down here, nick, they need to.
Speaker 2:They need to come down here and own this. Yeah, and just so everybody knows, I'm joking about the Dallas tour. They've got the largest tour. They get 128, 130, some guys to every tournament, the director's okay, he's all right.
Speaker 7:He's all right. There's a couple issues with him, but everything else is pretty good. We'll talk about that later. So, but yeah, the champ fight, even champ fight. We usually have 20, 30 guys every week. Most stewards don't, they don't.
Speaker 2:And that's what really helps. It doesn't really matter what fight you're in. If you get 20, 30 guys in there, there's going to be good competition and you've got to bring your A game up to be able to play every week. Well, Bryce, thank you so much for coming and joining us for a couple minutes. Congratulations on everything. Thank you, We'll see you here next year, Yep.
Speaker 7:Thank you, Congrats both Thanks guys All right.
Speaker 3:Next we have our A-Flight champion. I hope I pronounced this correctly Sokati Pavese from Tampa, florida. Is that correct, right, congratulations. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4:I mean, but I just commit to it and I I mean I enjoy playing with everybody. It is so friendly, so nice, but every stroke I have to focus on it. I mean I have a lot of, a lot of trouble shot, but I just try to fix that problem.
Speaker 2:So you shot 81 on Friday, the second most round of the day.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:Pretty good. So you go into day two as one of the leaders. You go into day two as one of the leaders. So, teeing off on hole one of the Jones course to me, which is great because, Jones, you know you go out and you come back, so you don't have to take that long drive.
Speaker 4:What do you think of the Jones course? I think it's beautiful. I mean I love the layout and I love the green, and yeah, I mean I love the fairways. It's beautiful. I mean, what can I say? I think when I play golf I focus on the layout and the green.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you were two over on the front and and then you get to the back and that par five hole, number 10 on the back. You're hitting right into the wind, into the ocean. To me, that's one of my favorite holes on the island. Jonah's one of my favorite course, Everybody knows that, but that's one of my favorite holes on the island. Because of that, what was the wind like in your face on Saturday?
Speaker 4:Wow, I think about 18 months. Yeah, 18 months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a standard six-shot hole for me.
Speaker 4:My first shot. I hit into the bunker and that's my second day Okay into the bunker and that's my second day, okay, and so I just tried to get out of the bunker and I had trouble in that hole. Actually I love that hole.
Speaker 2:Is it a hole? I do yeah, but it's a tough hole. It's a pretty hole, but it's a tough hole, even when the wind is down.
Speaker 3:It's so hard because you always have that ocean wind in your face and I believe it's up there a little bit too. Yeah, a little uphill.
Speaker 2:Yeah Right, and so then you go back there for day three.
Speaker 4:Day three Day three, another 81.
Speaker 3:And I mean at that point, you know how are you feeling, going from Saturday night into this morning.
Speaker 4:Oh Lord, Honestly, I woke up at 1 o'clock. I could not sleep.
Speaker 6:Oh no.
Speaker 4:And I tried to close my mind, but I could not sleep. And I told my husband. I said lost my mind, but I could not sleep. And I told my husband, I said I'm just going to just commit playing 18 hole and let the result come out by itself, right, and I hit left and right, left and right. It just like put all over the place. But again I, uh, I tried to fix the problem. I had a lot of mistakes, but I tried to fix it and it helped. Just try to stay calm.
Speaker 3:Right yeah, keep the nerves down a little bit.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, yes, but I still have it.
Speaker 2:But again you shot 81, again and you know you still won by three.
Speaker 4:Well, in golf, you know, I believe in mindset.
Speaker 8:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 4:Like I said, I made a lot of mistakes. Like I, I hit balls. My driver is so bad. I have 230 yard shot to go and then I try to lay up in front of the bunker and then I have 64 yard to go and then I make one putt for punt.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and that was it.
Speaker 4:So when you knew, that's not the 18 hole.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 4:The 18 hole I tried to play like par 5 because it's kind of difficult and so I just pretend like it's a par 5. And so I just hit straight, lay up and then try to stay close to the green, but unfortunately I went into the bunker tried to get out and tried to make two putts Again.
Speaker 2:A bogey on 18, that's fine, yes, so were you watching the scoreboard on live score?
Speaker 4:or were you just playing and found out afterwards? I watched halfway Okay. Then when I have a lot, of, lot of nerve, I say I have to stop watching it, I have to try to focus on it, especially like I have three leg holes, three whole life, and you know, that is kind of like my heart, it is just like crazy. And so on the past three, on the 17th I hit off the green lawn.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:Almost out of bounds and in the deer footprint.
Speaker 8:Oh is your ball.
Speaker 4:My ball and I feel like, wow, what am I going to do? So I said, well, it is what it is. I just tried to get it out and I take five. I'm happy, very happy with that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's fine. I mean, it is what it is, and again you still win by three. But congratulations and thanks so much for spending a couple minutes with us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4:Thank you very much. I really enjoyed the tour. Oh, thank you, and I have to say that we have been blessed for this whole week. The weather is beautiful, yeah.
Speaker 2:It really is All right, take care. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3:Thank you, congratulations. All right, we're here with the B-Flight winner and one of my playing partners this week, mr Michael Anderson, cincinnati Day Intour Congratulations. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. So we started Country Club of Hilton Head. First round Shut at 83. Yep, how do you feel that?
Speaker 8:went Well. I had great guys in my group and I thought I played bad because I expected there'd be a 75 due to the yardage being short. I was shocked that there was not and I ended up playing a lot better. When I looked at the finals at the end of the round I was like, oh, I'm not near as bad as I thought it was right and I was actually very excited yeah, I mean you, you and me both shot 83 and I think we were like the third group and we were that's not terrible yeah, I mean you, you and me both shot at 83, and I think we were like the third group.
Speaker 2:That's not terrible. Yeah, I mean we were 1B. So you're only four strokes back after day one. So really you don't want to be in the lead after day one anyway. So you're in a good spot. You had a birdie on number nine. Did that pay you off? No, all right, well, at least you had a birdie. So then you go over to Palmetto Hall, the Hills course over Palmetto Hall. What did you think of that course?
Speaker 8:I thought that was fine. I got to play it a few years ago in the senior and I knew driver was not the play along. Right, it's just hit it to the dog legs and knock it up and you get on. It's great If not knock it up and you get on, it's great if not chip up and just keep chugging along. Then I had my wonderful group mates cheering me along, most of them.
Speaker 2:I had one guy that was dead set on texas winning and well, oh man so so was your group that you played with on day two as good as a group with these played with on day one. Be honest, just because he's sitting there, you can be honest. No, no, I had a great time with this young man.
Speaker 8:I'm not saying you didn't have a great time I said, was it as good as it was? Because I had a player from day one in my group on day two and day three. Okay, well, that's good we had a great time, so really.
Speaker 2:so what that tells me is is you guys are battling for 54 holes.
Speaker 8:We did. We had a good old time and we were cheering each other on the whole way. Who was that? I played with Jeremy on day one and day three Jeremy, who? What was Jeremy's last name? He's Hodge. Yep, he's from the Augusta Georgia tour. Good, and in day two we had Sean with us. I had him on day one and day two. Sean unfortunately didn't make it to day three with me, but we had a good time and they all cheered me on, wished me good luck on this morning.
Speaker 3:Right. So the four-stroke lead or four-stroke victory act. I should say congratulations, thank you. Uh, you're gonna be able to take your picture and have have a nice picture on the website, so, um, but again, congratulations. Thank you for beating me, oh sorry about that and you have a good one.
Speaker 2:Thank you, we're with the sea flight. Winner from clums ohio, kevin brown. Kevin, congratulations on the win this week. Thank you very much. That's a great accomplishment. Very proud of it. So tell us about you know you started the week at Worcester Reef, correct? How did your round?
Speaker 5:go then Didn't start off too well. It was kind of tight there and it's a lot of target golf. But once I got going going, iron play was decent and so I was able to to get to the greens and make some putts and so able to save some of my pars and that sort of thing so, but you shot the 87, which was second highest score of the day.
Speaker 2:Correct, I was surprised. Yeah well, the winds were out, out there were blowing pretty good. Yes, they were. So the 87,. The lowest score of the day was Kevin LePage from the Charlotte tour. He shot 85. So you know you were right there going into day two.
Speaker 5:Yeah, very happy when I saw the pairings the next day that I was, you know, in second place for the second bird.
Speaker 3:Right, and then you went to my favorite course. Jim says every course is a favorite course, but my favorite course, hampton Hall. How'd you do there? How'd you fare?
Speaker 5:The fairways are a lot more open there, so I was able to really pull out my driver and kind of do some target golf with my driver, make sure I got some good angles in, and iron play was really good for me and that's what really helped me to score so well.
Speaker 2:The second day you shot 79, which was low score of the day, low score of the tournament for sea flight. Yes, that's pretty good. But let's talk about Hampton Hall again, because it's one of my favorite courses. It's one of mine too Well, because for guys like me and most guys it's so wide open. I mean you can really kind of just sway away, but you don't want to get in the rough. Once you get in the rough, what happens?
Speaker 5:Yeah, your ball sinks down in, and then you're really trying to have to figure out which club you have to hit into the green. Now, kind of make sure it's hitting short of the pin, because the greens don't hold real well. So it's kind of knowing the course from that perspective.
Speaker 2:But you know you had a relatively clean scorecard, even though you had two doubles. You also had two birdies, yes, so that really kind of. You know they cover each other up. Did you win any skin money on that?
Speaker 5:I did. I got one skin, all right, better, better than nothing, better than nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Nothing Better than nothing.
Speaker 5:So you know you've got a pretty good lead going into day three when you, when you left the course saturday to the time you teed off so friday, when I left oyster reef, I was pretty down because I expected more from myself, and so I saw I was six shots back from the leader overall, and so when I found out, well you know I had the second, I scored. Okay, fine, let's, let's reset and go back and go back to Hampton Hall and really play there and just see what we can do, because it's a course I feel fits me well. And so I was able to go into there with kind of a let's attack type of mindset.
Speaker 2:And so you follow up today with an 83, again second-lowest score of the day. So I mean you didn't really play much different than yesterday. No, pretty solid, yeah, but you had like an eight or nine-shot lead for the majority of the day. So were you really trying to go at pins and get birdies or were you just kind of trying to play it safe?
Speaker 5:It depended on the hole. So if I was close enough say you know 150 or so in, I was going at the pins trying to get some birdies. I believe I only got one, had a couple of opportunities I missed, but still I was trying for that. And then towards the end it was a let's make sure we avoid the big score, because that's where you can really screw up you know, that's, that's kind of what I was was saying to somebody.
Speaker 2:you know, because I was at oyster reef today and I was talking to someone, I said, look, he's got, he's got a pretty good lead if, if I'm him and I know who he is and he's a smart guy, he he's not bagging the ball, he's, he's trying to play it safe. You know, take, take a bogey and move on. Don't take a double, but take a. He doesn't need birdies. You know, to move up to the leaderboard or to win, play safe. And he did that. He did have a couple hiccups on the back. Yeah, he took a penalty, so he took a triple and then he took another double on the other par three on the back. But you know again, let me see Fly. But you know again, we see flight. You're going to make mistakes. You're going to make mistakes and they didn't hurt you, but you did have a birdie. You going to get paid out of that thing. No, no, no, that's right, you got the big pay.
Speaker 5:Right, that's right, I'll take the trophy any day.
Speaker 2:So what are your thoughts? You've been around for a long time. Yeah, I have 12 or 13 years Minimum. I've seen you play pretty much that whole time Number one. I'm really proud of you. What are your thoughts on your?
Speaker 5:comps. Well, when I first came into the tour, I came in as a D-Flighter and was really trying to just learn the game. I'd only been playing for a couple of years. I worked really hard, got myself up to where I was, uh, got into the a flight at one point, but then, you know, I didn't keep up with playing. In the last couple years I haven't done much at all, and so this year was kind of like, all right, I want to play more, and so that just worked on. My game hadn't worked out too well. I kind of peaked right now. It was fantastic, perfect timing. All right, I'll take that any day.
Speaker 2:So what's next? I mean, obviously you saw the big picture. You're going to have a big old picture of yourself. I don't know what you're going to do with that but what's next for you?
Speaker 5:Going to play the senior tour next week Awesome. You're going to pull off the rare double no-transcript courses in a long, long time, so I'm not sure what they're like, so I just have to see how it works.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you're gonna do just fine don't, don't let this wind go in your head. Right, right, right. You'll be fine. All right, let's welcome the D-Flight National Champion this year from Cincinnati, dayton Thomas Hargis. Thomas, congratulations and welcome, and thank you for spending some time with us when you should be out there, you know, partying oh no, it's fun.
Speaker 10:Thanks so much. Doing this, this is awesome. No, this is you know it's actually our pleasure.
Speaker 2:You know it's this the first time we're, you know, actually interviewing. No letters on on, uh, on camera. Chris did it walk around last year. We're in a microphone. You know we're trying to. You know, as people say, just be better. We're trying to up in the game a little bit better. It's hard for us, you know, because we're really down here guys. You know so. So tell us about your, your first day. I mean, you played, you played, uh, golden bear. Yep, on friday, tell us about your round um, it was, it was fun.
Speaker 10:Um, I get here on monday because we don't have bermuda in ohio, so I'm like getting used to the opening the club face and, um, honestly, just getting here. This year my mom was diagnosed with cancer. She wanted home hospice, so I didn't even play a tournament until almost July or August. I got my five in and then I had to go back to work and kind of scramble. So, like the last, this is my third year playing golf and so every year I've conned my wife into coming up here, and so this is my third year playing golf, and so every year I've conned my wife into coming up here. And so this is my third year at nationals and D flight and I honestly wanted to qualify, just to be here and to enjoy the vacation and just I wouldn't even share if I was going to play this year. So, yeah, I played two practice rounds there and it was just, it was fun. It was fun. I had a great group of guys. I knew I wasn't going to be running at the front of the pack, so I I started on what 17b or whatever. We all know how that goes right and so it was just basically getting out of day one with my shirt on, and, and it was fun.
Speaker 10:It was a good group and uh, yeah, I was. I was happy to be there. That's probably why I shot so well. Well, yeah, you shot 87, the low round of the day. Yes, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was and and I'm still mad about the the bogey I took on the last hole for the three putts. So you know it's, it was a good day. I think I birdied one hole. There wasn't any major blow up holes, which was the goal of the day, and so, yeah, it was nice well, before we move on.
Speaker 2:You said you had to con your wife and they come to hilton head. It shouldn't be that hard well, we like the resort.
Speaker 10:I will say that the beach helps, beach helps, and we also stay after for about three or four days. Yeah, awesome A couple times. And so you know when I'm playing she's gracious enough to like leave me alone until like three or four o'clock and then we go out and have dinner, right? So for the next three days there's no golf, there's nothing. We're going to go have some fun.
Speaker 3:So the second round, you go out to the hard course, yes, and come out with a 90. That saved my tail.
Speaker 10:That actually probably won me the national championship.
Speaker 3:I would agree, because that low round of the day I believe.
Speaker 10:Oh no, it was absolutely the low round. As a matter of fact, most of the flight was in the hundreds and I took a practice round out there and I happened to catch a little side note that said we share caddies with the big Hilton head course, harvard, harvard, sound, thank you. And the Adrenaline Right. And I called down there. I was like you got a caddy that knows this course he goes, we do. I was like, get me him tomorrow for my tee time.
Speaker 10:I was on the fourth hole and it was windy, just like it's been all week, and he looked at me and he goes put your driver in your bag, tee that down and just hitch her three wood and four wood all day. And that's all I did. I shot piercers down the lane and the greens were lightning fast and I played. Of course it used to be a PGA qualifier, clover Nook in Cincinnati, so I'm used to the fast greens and so it was just a matter of playing bogey ball, staying out of major trouble, and you know we all thought we were playing badly until we looked at the scores at the very end and, matter of fact, I think my playing partner, he and I both stayed in the same group. I think he shot like a 96, I believe it was Zach. He shot like a 96 and I believe it was Zach. He shot like a 96, and he thought he shot himself out of it. And I said I was like there's no way everybody else played better than we did tonight, like the course was that hard.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, the neat thing about D-Flight is all of them are playing that course. Oh yeah, so you're not competing Like in the other flights, you're not competing against somebody on a different courts, right, you know. So you know how everybody's doing, right.
Speaker 10:Yeah, everybody's going to play the same hazards, the same wind, the same garbage, the same thing. And so I mean, honestly, that's why I love the golf week tour, because, like, I'll play some PGA events with handicaps, but look, we're all on the same flight, everybody's on the same playing field, right? You just you shoot what you shoot and everybody's got to play with the same garbage, right? No, that absolutely won me. That's especially after I played today. Today was like riding a bull. I said that yesterday, but today was even worse.
Speaker 2:It was just Well, when we look at your scores from Atlantic Dunes, you said after the fourth hole, you told you put away, you tripled one.
Speaker 10:No, no, no. And the practice route. I had a practice route because I was banging driver and the wind just kept taking it and like, after the fourth hole, he's like this is ridiculous. He's like drop your. He's like let me see you hit your three wood, let me see you hit your five wood. And he's like put the thing in your bag, just play with that three wood. The first hole was bad luck. I actually hit a beautiful five wood and and it took a bad hop off the fairway and hit in the water and then we ended up in a bad spot where I got caught in the wind and then it went in the water On the other side because I was like an idiot. I played for the hole instead of just trying to save the stroke and get my bogey and get off. I was trying to play for the pin like an idiot and then I forgot there was water and then I went get myself back under control.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no it, get myself back under control. But yeah, no, it wasn't a bad day. I didn't do anything to hurt myself. Yeah, even today you shot 94. Oh, it was horrible, so but but but yeah, you know, you had a. I wouldn't say you had a big league going into day three, but you had a and it was eight strokes yeah, it was eight strokes over by uh playing partners and tony came out of nowhere.
Speaker 10:Tony, like what do you shoot a day? You shot a 90. At one point he was shooting like an 84, he was tracking for an 84 and, um, I think actually. So my driver was on, I just couldn't find my irons and I was readjusting back to the slower green speeds and golden bear, and so there were a couple of like really stupid shots that just wouldn't fall. My irons were working and it got to 13. Tony cut it to two and I was looking at the scoreboard at that point and I'm like I didn't get together because it was. I started doing range drills just to get the ball down the middle of the fairway and playing for bogeys and I hate to say it but like unfortunately, tony had a bad 15, 16, 17. He hit two in the woods in both of those holes. It's super tight if we go down to the end. I did par 18. Well, you parred 14? That's right. I went on a run. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:You were three over over the last five. Yes, and let's think about this. Yeah, under pressure for a national championship. A deflate player, chris, again, I'm not downplaying you, no, no, no. Tournament golf is incredibly a mental game Three over to win the national championship Three over over the last five. To win the national championship three over over the last five to win national championship.
Speaker 10:That's a lot of effort, very solid, thank you. I didn't even think about it like that. No, it's, that's a good way to put it. I hope your mom is. Oh, I, you know what. I say this all the time. Most people don't get to spend time with their parents. We don't die, I know and for for there, and we spent time with her and, um, you don't get that back, you know.
Speaker 10:So it was, it was the right choice to be, and then we had to, had to get back to the companies and do what I needed to do, to to do that, and so playing here was really an enjoyment, like the fact that we weren't even sure, even a month ago, that we could afford to be here. We'd be here and all that stuff, and so, um, yeah, yeah, it's, uh, it's kind of emotional to be here and just to see how it worked out. And you know, I mean I'm sitting in the cart on what maybe like nine or 10 going, I'm coughing this up, I'm just absolutely doing it, and so, yeah, bearing down those last rails, I didn't realize I shot that well, in the last five. But yeah, no, it was, it was fun. This is always fun. We're glad you're here and so happy for you, congratulations.
Speaker 7:Thank you so much. Thanks for all you guys do.
Speaker 2:Congrats. Appreciate you, take care of yourself. We'll definitely see you here next year. Oh yeah, and I don't know if you have to convince your wife next year too, but you know, hopefully she'll say as far. Thanks guys All right, we're here with the 2024 Senior Amateur National Champions. It's been a great season and we're here with the Champ Flight Champion, Chuck Kirk from Jacksonville. Chuck, congratulations on the win, bud. Thank you very much, Appreciate it. You had a really good two days. You finished at three under.
Speaker 11:How are you feeling right now? Tired, tired, but happy. No doubt about it. There's a lot of good competition here, and I was just fortunate to get out on top of yeah, we talk a lot about.
Speaker 2:If you go to regionals, there's really good competition. But coming down here for a national championship, these are the best players across the country and you beat a really stacked field.
Speaker 11:Yeah, I was pretty impressed with everybody I was playing against. I was just, like I said, fortunate to make it out.
Speaker 2:So let's go back to yesterday's round. You played at Fazio. You shot even par 70 yesterday, because we haven't been on the Fazio course in a while. What score did you?
Speaker 11:get. I had never seen it either, so it was in absolutely beautiful conditions. A little trickery there and there as far as carry and some target lines, but for the most part it was very true for what you saw and it's of course I hope we get to play again. It's well worth it. Unfortunately, they don't have a range Right, so I had to come over here in the dark and hit balls for a five-minute drive to the other place, but it worked. It worked out.
Speaker 2:Just take what you can get. Yes, sir, so you end up with three birdies, three bogeys. Did you get any skin spouts on those? No, sir, no.
Speaker 11:Not, unless Dennis Kepin did tell me.
Speaker 2:That's possible too. You know, yesterday was skins across the whole National Championship.
Speaker 11:Three flights only had one. Actually our flight only had one. Yesterday it was over 1,000, so it over a thousand.
Speaker 2:So a good day for him, very good day. And then uh, today you played over at hilton head national, which everybody knows. That's one of my favorite courses. You shot uh three under um.
Speaker 11:Tell me about, oh I mean, it started out pretty quick not normally a quick starter and birdied the first hole from about 15 foot um, and I was like, okay, here we go. And but the guy was in second also birdied it. So I was like, well, we're going to keep this going as far as we can. And I just wanted to be steady all day and I was fortunate enough to be able to do that, didn't put myself in any real trouble. I had one bad drive that kind of put me in a weird spot, but I was able to get out of it with a good par and the other guy struggled in that hole and that's where I got my gaffe and my lead and was just able to finish up strong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so again you won by three strokes. You know second place. You know there was two tie for second, john Fryman from Columbus and Jay Barnes, which is also a play out of Jay today. So again you're going head-to-head, you know, really for 36 holes and you know to have a three-shot win like that, that's pretty solid.
Speaker 11:Well, like I said, I was fortunate enough not to make the mistakes that they unfortunately did and that just kept me in front of them and, like I said, hold on to the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think in champ flight I think that's one of the biggest differences in flights Can't make mistakes Costly. So if you make a mistake in a champ flight, it costs you the other flight. It's okay, you can make mistakes. It's cutting down on the mistakes, correct?
Speaker 11:Or being able to get out of them without any real damage, right.
Speaker 2:So what advice would you give to the higher handicappers? You know that's a question I like to ask all the champ flight winners because you know a lot of people come with a little bit different mentality in how they approach each course and each round. What advice would you give to the higher handicappers to get them to shave a stroke or two off their scores?
Speaker 11:Well, I'm fortunate I get to play a lot of competitive golf, so I've gotten comfortable and that's something that they probably need to do too play more competitive golf. So they are used to playing under pressure, right, and you know, work on your short game, right. Really that made a difference, you know. I mean you'd be surprised, especially some of the higher handicap rates, like 15 to 20. They can get down to 10 in single digits just by maybe able to get down a couple more times around, versus what they're able to do now, because I and it's just, it's just work. You, I love practice, so it's okay for me, but some people just don't have the time to get out and play or their course, it's just not a good condition to get anything out of it. So I would say short game and just get comfortable playing golf in a competitive spirit.
Speaker 2:Well, Chuck, congratulations on the National Championship. Thank you very much.
Speaker 11:Look forward to seeing you next year. Yeah, it's pretty wild. Alright, bud, take care of yourself. Thanks so much. All right, bye-bye.
Speaker 2:All right, we're back here with the A-Flight champion, Hawk Hawkins from Norfolk, Virginia. He's with the Southern Virginia Tour. Yep. Congratulations on the National Championship. I appreciate it. How are you feeling?
Speaker 12:Great actually. I I feel unbelievable.
Speaker 2:You know, you sat down and you asked how I was. I asked if not near as good as you and you said you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, we're doing pretty good. That's awesome. You know, you win the national championship. You got to be doing pretty good. So you played two really good courses. You played the two hills course, so you played Palmetto Hall. Right. What's the difference between two courses for you?
Speaker 12:I'll tell you what the course today. Of course it was my first time playing both courses. Okay, so what I noticed today was, you know, placing the ball not on a hill. I mean, you know, the difference was the hills within the fairways obviously affecting your lie. So that was the main difference and I thought the course yesterday played a little bit more difficult.
Speaker 2:Okay, it is. That's kind of difficult course. I think this course is a little bit more difficult, but that's. I shoot 150 each time, so don't worry about that. So yesterday over at Palmetto Hall Hills, you shot 78, two strokes back to walk me through the round. He shot 78, two strikes back to walk me through the round.
Speaker 12:Well, I mean I had a pretty consistent round from start to until I made a triple bogey. I think I was two over through 15 holes, okay, and got to a par four. Water to the right out of bounds, left wanted to stay away from the water. It was about 220 to get to the water and, uh, just trying to play conservative and got too conservative and hooked it left and and I think that was a telltale of of me dropping from because I was leading, okay, by two going into that hole and of course that dropped me down into fifth, which was still acceptable right first day. You just can't lose it, right.
Speaker 2:And really you don't want to be in lead in the first day anyway. I didn't. You really don't. That's why I chatted with that. I did not. I didn't want to sleep on a lead. Yeah, you know so well. Tell me about your mentality.
Speaker 12:Again, you're leaving here until you get to the course this morning. Well, actually, I wanted to get here, uh, which I did get here about an hour early. I wanted to get on the range and get some range work in and go through my bag, which I was able to do. That and, uh, and then my focus was to just stay ahead of the game from start to finish, which all I wanted to do was make pars, greens and regulations, and I wasn't able to do that, but yet still I was able to. My short game helped me out chipping and my putting was pretty good. So I stayed consistent with trying to make pars and staying away from those big numbers, and I was able to do it, with the exception of one hole, and I think that's that particular hole. I was putting for a double, so I was looking dead in the eyes of a triple and which I didn't want to do, and I made that putt and, believe it or not, that kind of brought me back to to where I needed to be.
Speaker 2:Well, you shot 75 today. Three over here on this course is not bad. Now Ronnie Iver from Louisiana shot the low round day at 73. So plus one. I mean he really moved up leaderboards? Absolutely he did, but you played again. You were going head-to-head with Duke Sturgis from Indianapolis and Dwayne Divers from Jacksonville all day today. All day.
Speaker 12:Talk about that a little bit. Well, I'll tell you they. You know it was pretty relaxed from the first teak. They introduced each other, but I could see the tenacity. Oh yeah, you know the tension was there, you could feel it. We wanted each and everybody to play well. But those two guys, I think I trailed them for most of the day until about halfway through and I kind of moved up a little bit and I just stayed ahead of them, tried not to make those mental mistakes, which I was. I think I did okay with that. I think you did just fine, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because you walked away with a I think it was a two-stroke victory over Duke Yep. Again, that's a two-day total of 153. So you were six, nine over for 36 holes. That's a pretty good run. That's a pretty good plane right there.
Speaker 12:Yeah, it was a grind especially today it was a grind. Especially today it was. The course is challenging and all in a doubt, got to be strategic. So and Air Force veteran.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Well. Thank you so much for your service. My pleasure. Congratulations on the win. Thanks a lot and good luck, and we'll see you next year. Thanks a lot, take care. All Appreciate it All. Right Back with the B-Flight National Champion, probably recognizing from A few minutes ago. This is one of the rare double-doubles that we've had. We've got Michael Anderson from the Cincinnati Dayton Tour. He won B-Flight Golf Week National Championship and now he's here and followed that up with the Senior National Championship. Mike, congratulations again. That's pretty awesome. So you know, I was with you a little bit last week and I was with you today. And you know, first thing, today's was really back and forth, today's round was really back. We'll come back to that because I was following that, because I was really at your course. But you know, tell me about your round yesterday over at Oyster Reef because you finished 78 round of the day one shot and a lead.
Speaker 8:I had 23 putts for the day. My group was giving me a hard time. Anything that was inside 25 feet it went in the hole. So they were like why are you even putting that? Just pick it up and let's go Save us some time. Okay, next time I will, but for real, that's what happened. And, um, this morning they were making fun of it. They go are you even putting today, or are you just picking them up? And they were saying I hope we putt like you today and you said I hope you don't well, no, I said I would well.
Speaker 8:There's you the best there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2:So did you feel any pressure at all? You know, going into today, knowing, because you correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you were low around you know, two of the three days in golf week, the second day for sure.
Speaker 8:No, no, no, I wasn't no. Second day I was not. There was a 78 and a 70. No, no, no, the second day I was not. There was a 78 and a 70. But you were right at the top. I went to 80 on the second day. First day was 83, so I know it wasn't. The last day was 82, I think, which was close. I just played really consistent on that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but again you were right up top of the leaderboard. So you've been top of the leaderboard for five straight rounds.
Speaker 8:So did you feel any pressure going into? There was more pressure today. Why is that? Well, after I hit eight provisional drives today, I only had to use three of them, okay, whoa. So it could have went way sideways. I got lucky on a bunch of a couple of bounces off the trees and we were joking around I'd hit a tee shot, even though it hit the green. They go you hitting a provision. It got to that point. Okay, just a nice running joke that we had going, I mean, and when we today, when everybody started to get on a little bad stretch, somebody in the group just walked over. Hey, head up, let's go, you're still in this, let's go, come on. You got this and we cheered each other on and I think we finished one, two and the other guy was tied for third.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so let's talk about that today, because again, you guys were going back and forth, back and forth and actually Mitch was in first place up through 16, and he had some trouble.
Speaker 8:He hit his tee shot on 17 in part three, pushed it right and it plugged in the bunker and he had a few issues there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Mitch finished tied for third out of the Augusta Tour, mark Clank, tour director from Southern Florida, ty for third and Wilson.
Speaker 8:And Wilson Shelton. He was in my cart today.
Speaker 2:He was plus 16. You were plus 15. Wilson from Central Carolina Ben was in the cart today, but that's got to be fun, though I mean back and forth.
Speaker 8:We were having a good old time and we were cheering each other on. We didn't look at the board until like whole 13 or 14 and they go. Well, you guys know you're like one or two, or you guys are going back and forth all day long and we're like well, we're cheering each other on, that's it.
Speaker 2:We didn't care who won, as long as there's somebody in our group again, and that's, that's part of the the the thing about the tour, right? I mean, you know, especially with the senior tour, it's not, yes, everybody's competing hard, everybody's, you know, wants to win. Everybody wants to do that but not at the expense of other fighters, and that's off I mean, we were having so much fun with each other.
Speaker 8:On the last hole, on 18, one of the guys hooked his t-shot. It hit one of the decks and we didn't see where it came off. So we went and identified his ball. We go hey, is this yours? With the three marks here? And then, of course, one of the other true B flyers goes with the gray paint on it. There you go.
Speaker 2:Oh God, that's awesome. Well, michael, again thanks for spending some time.
Speaker 8:I know you interrupted your championship duties. I'd rather do this than that. Oh no, I understand.
Speaker 2:Okay, congratulate, thank you, and we will see you next year. Absolutely, I will be here. All right, buddy, take care of yourself, appreciate it. Okay, we're back with the Sea Flight National Champion, dave Mullis from Southern Virginia.
Speaker 9:Dave, congratulations on the win. Thank you, ray. I appreciate that. You know you struggled today Well, you played a really good round today. You led. I was fighting it Well, you shot 86.
Speaker 2:The low round of the day was 85. Yeah, so I mean you were right there. You were one shot off the lead yesterday at Robbers Row, Right? So we haven't been to Robbers Row in a number of years. What were your thoughts on that course?
Speaker 9:I thought the fairways were a little lacking and the greens they were a little bumpy, but they were faster than the greens were today. Yeah, but all in all it was a fun day yesterday.
Speaker 2:Well, walk me through the round yesterday, because again you shot 85 yesterday. Yeah, low round was 84. So I mean you're one back.
Speaker 9:I struggled again yesterday. I had five double bogeys and so that was just kind of like I kept pounding my head against the wall. It just seemed like you know I started out on 17. And I thank Dennis for putting me on the number two handicap hole. On the first day I questioned his parentage, but that's okay. And then he got double bogey double bogey right off the bat and played a little bit better birdied one and went on from there to play. I have a decent round, but those doubles kept popping in somewhere. I just wasn't pleased with how I played either. I'm glad I played well enough, but I could have done better.
Speaker 2:Well, so you were in the third group today, Mm-hmm. So again right there at the top, who were your players?
Speaker 9:Tim, and I can't remember Tim Wall, and then Bob, and I think it was Mike. No, mike, I've forgotten himself. Well, that's all right, they didn't win anyway, no offense, I'll tell you what the foursome I had today was absolutely great. We had an absolute marvelous time out there. Good, we were laughing and joking, and really it was right off the bat. We were all relaxed and enjoying ourselves. So it wasn't one of those tense rounds where you go out there and fight or anything like that, and so I really enjoyed the day.
Speaker 2:You know I talk to people a lot about one of the differences between the senior tour and the golfing tour. You know a lot of the same guys play on both. But you know, when you come to the senior tour it just seems a little bit more relaxed, a little bit more laid back.
Speaker 9:Well, I've played both. I played many years on the regular tour at Virginia Beach and then only about the last four years have I played. Just concentrate, because I can't hit it with the big boys anymore. That's a struggle. What was really interesting today? I'm a retired naval aviator, but the airplane my airplane actually flew over on the 16th hole, okay, and that kind of got me kick-started again. Awesome, because I was kind of down after bogey, a couple bogey and that. So that was kind of fun. What did you fly? I flew E2Cs, okay, awesome. So I scared myself way too many times. Oh, I'm going to board the boat, but that's all right, that's all right.
Speaker 2:That's. You're here with us, I am, I'm on this side of the divot, that's all exactly. And you know, we've got yeah, there are so many of our members that are our military, prime military, retired military and you're like the, the fourth aviator that I've talked to, oh, yeah, I mean, um, you know, I've got some s16 pilots, a10 pilots. Talked to somebody, uh, last year who was a F-16 pilot and his son was an F-16 pilot as well, so they were like one of the only two father-sons flying at the same time. Oh, wow, yeah, so it's pretty good and thank you so much for your service.
Speaker 9:I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much you guys, I'm an Army guy, okay, well, exactly, we're going to visit Army. Well, dave, thank you so much for taking some time with us. I know you've got championship duties that you have to go do Congratulations on the win and we'll see you next time. Thank you again. Take care, bud. The final national championship of 2024, and you can probably see right behind us we've got our first back-to-back winner in forever, I think, outside of Jamf Flight, robert. Congratulations, bud. Thank you, we did it by phone last year. This time I get to shake your hand. Thank you, this is an awesome, awesome accomplishment. Going back-to-back, what do you think? Wow, I was going to say wow. So tell me about it. Tell me about yesterday. You played, actually, you played right here at the Hills course. Tell me about the round.
Speaker 6:The. Oh, I was so nervous coming into that first round. All I you know, I said this last year and I'll say it again All I wanted to do was just bogey call, and I think I accomplished that with a 91. Yeah, you shot 91 here yesterday, which is a really good score, um, but yeah, I'm pretty happy with that. It was just nervous the whole time, just trying to keep up with everybody and sticking to the game plan and right, well, but so so you had, uh, low round the day was 90 by jody broussard, so you.
Speaker 2:So you're one shot back, you're in the lead group. You know what? What again? What are you thinking? Because so let's go back, let's go back a little bit. You know, last year you finished second in golf week, right, right, and then tell I and didn't tell anybody, and then you won the seniors, won the seniors. Yeah, so you come into golf week. You didn't have as good a year golf week, but you were top 20?.
Speaker 6:Tied for 19th yeah. Tied 19th yeah.
Speaker 2:So again, that's still pretty good Out of 128 golfers really pretty good. Then you come into the senior tour tour and you're one shot off the lead. What kind of pressure was it?
Speaker 6:It was a lot of pressure. I'll tell you that right there. It was a lot. Just trying to figure out you know hate to say this just trying to keep up with the other guy Right, right, right, watch what he's doing, keeping out his strokes and all that stuff. It was kind of tough to deal with that.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're playing with him, you're going back and forth with him all day long, right? So you shot 89. Jody shot 91. Yeah, I mean, that doesn't buy a stroke, right? So he had you by a stroke day one. You beat him by two strokes today, so that's where you have the one-shot victory. But again, you know, that's 18 holes of back and forth, and back and forth, and back and forth. And I told you before we got on here that I was following you all day. That's so cool Because I'm saying I'm hoping he does it because we haven't done it forever. I was, you know, truth be told, I was following three people. I was following Michael Anderson, the B-Flight National Champion, kevin Brown from the C-Flight, because he won the golf weekend and he had a really good day but didn't get it done. That sounds bad. But didn't win.
Speaker 6:And then you, so I didn't look at the scores at all. I think I told you that before. I try not to look at the scores, but this time when we made the turn I thought I'm going to go ahead and take a peek, and I think he was up one stroke on me, I think he was. And then after that it was like all right, now I got to grind a little bit, Stay on track, Watch what he's doing, See where I'm at. And you know, he had a couple bad shots and I capitalized on him and then I just stuck with him and then we went a hole. I think we were like 17. I think we was like 17. I think it was maybe tied and we double bogeyed that last one in the last hole, number 18. He got caught in the sand, kind of chucked it out, and then I end up capitalizing on that one.
Speaker 2:But again, it's almost like match play at that point, right yeah, when you're down to the last nine holes and you're either tied or up one back one, whatever it is. I mean, there's a couple different philosophies about going about it, but you have to make sure that you don't make a big mistake and that you, you know, my biggest mistake right now, which I think he ended up catching me, was a par three.
Speaker 6:I ended up tripling that thing. Yeah, hole 16, you did triple. I tripled that one, and that's when I started thinking about all the scores. I'm thinking, yeah, he's, he's close to me right now, so I think we was tied at that at that point. Okay, and then yeah I think you're right.
Speaker 2:you're right because it was tied and actually last last score that I saw when my cards started coming in and started verifying those cards, is you were tied through 35 holes and so you know, if you look at the last hole, you bogeyed, he doubled and that was a clincher. That was it, yeah.
Speaker 6:That's all. Yeah, that was. I was like yeah, I can't believe it. Okay, can't believe it. Yeah, I didn't think I would do it back-to-back, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, robert, thank you so much for spending some time with us. Congratulations, Thank you. I appreciate that. Hold on before we go. What are you going to do? Because now you have space for two?
Speaker 6:I don't know what we'll do with them, man, but it's going to look good, it's going to look good on the wall.
Speaker 2:yes, robert, take care of yourself. We'll see you next year and thanks a lot for following us this year. We'll see you all again next year here in Hilton Head for the 2025 Senior Amateur Tour, golf and Camper Tour National Championships. Take care. National Championship Week is, or week and a half, is now officially over time to start thinking about the 2025 season. What are your thoughts, your overall thoughts, about the year?
Speaker 3:year was successful, accomplished a lot of goals. You know we talked about in the opening, really happy with what I did, can't wait for the next season. You know January, new chapter, I mean we've talked about it A flight, we'll see how it goes. But got to get some work done in this offseason, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:I'll lay out a plan for you. I'll lay out a plan for you. There's, you know, I thought the season went really well. I mean from the golf, from uh, the podcast, some of the things we did, how there's gonna be some new changes. Like, if you're seeing video now, uh, videos can become a a big thing, a big thing. Um, I'm not sure when the regional series is going to be announced, but I'm pretty sure we'll know, because we've got to plan something.
Speaker 3:You keep telling me we're going to travel a lot oh yeah, we're going to do some traveling.
Speaker 2:Um, hopefully we get some more sponsors, because that's really what we need, right, to be able to fund these things. Um, you know, we're neither one of us are independently wealthy, no, so, uh, we need some sponsors to do that. But again, you know, I can't thank the sponsors that we had this year enough for all the support that they gave us. Oh, yeah, for sure. Uh, dennis and Jennifer, the, the, the, the tour directors, the members really supporting us and the podcast and what and what we do. Uh, it's, it's, it's really been a blessing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it has, and I mean being able to be recognized at the director's meeting. Um, another chapter, another chapter and now. Now we're gonna have another season, more fun, and I gotta start shaving more if I'm gonna be on video gaming more.
Speaker 2:You know, you gotta get, you gotta get I gotta do my hair now and all this stuff. You know I'm not doing any of that, so this is this is just my face, right? Nobody wants to see that. But anyway, this is, this is what we're going with, um, but yeah, a lot of good things coming. As everybody knows, registration opens up on Black Friday. Our next episode is November 18th, right before Black Friday, right before Black Friday. So again, thank you everybody for all your support this year. I think it's been a wonderful year, very successful for the tour, for us individually, the podcast, and can't thank you enough. Yes, thank you very much. We appreciate it all. All right, y'all Take care, thank you.
