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“Wait... Where Are My Clubs?” + Mission Inn Madness & Senior Golf Vibes
Hey there! Ever show up to a competitive golf event... without your golf clubs? Our resident rules guru, Roger, did just that, and lived to tell the tale (and shoot respectably!). In this episode of Golfweek Amateur Tour – The Podcast, Tim Newman, Chris Rocha, and Roger tee up the laughs, drop some serious amateur golf rule knowledge, and spotlight the passion that fuels our golf community.
We’re also heading to the beautiful Mission Inn Resort for the Howie in the Hills regional, where players took on the rare Florida hills and came out swinging—including former PGA Tour pro Dave Rummels, who staged an epic Champ Flight comeback with four birdies on the back nine. And yes, he’s 67 and just returned to amateur golf tournaments after decades as a pro.
Plus, we dive into what makes senior golf events such a vibe: camaraderie, relaxed competition, and stories that go beyond the scorecard.
Highlights & Tee-rific Moments:
- Roger’s hilarious “no clubs” story (seriously, check your trunk!)
- What’s OB vs. penalty area? Learn the golf rule definitions that could save your round
- Dave Rummels’ comeback after SEVEN straight bogeys—mental game on point
- The highs and hills of Mission Inn: Las Colinas & El Campeon courses
- How local golf tours bring players together from all over the country
- The difference in energy between the Golfweek Amateur Tour and Senior Amateur Golf Tour
- A heartfelt reminder of the impact this amateur golf podcast has had on players, especially veterans
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Nominate your Player of the Month by May 5th
Enter the Srixon irons raffle for just $10 via Venmo (@TimNATC) — because showing up club-less is only funny once
Whether you’re grinding for a National Championship or just here for the golf tips, laughs, and community, this episode is packed with everything everyday golfers love. Thanks for being part of the Golfweek Amateur Tour family!
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Welcome back, chris. Glad to be back, are you?
Speaker 2:I am man Doing good, I enjoy having new conversations Good.
Speaker 5:I miss you.
Speaker 1:Anytime. You know you got to get through sickness and life, but no, everything's doing good, good Well remember, you know, last episode we talked to JR and we talked about Stu's subs, right? Right.
Speaker 7:And I told you what I wanted to do, because we had that meeting to go to right.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 7:And I was dying for Stu's subs all day long. All day long. I'm going to have me a Stu's sub for dinner and my wife God bless her she didn't realize what time they closed and guess what I did not get. Guess what I did not get.
Speaker 1:Your stew sub.
Speaker 7:I did not get a stew sub.
Speaker 2:Well, it's funny.
Speaker 7:Worked all day craving it and didn't get it.
Speaker 1:It's funny that you bring that up, because at my last event, I had to get something to eat at the turn and they had a chicken wrap, chicken Caesar wrap and I got that. It wasn't as good as I can imagine a stew's wrap would be, because it was still fried chicken, it wasn't like a grilled chicken, which is weird. Yeah, I mean it was good, but it wasn't a stew's wrap, good. So, jr, if you're listening, when I'm there in October, you're going to have to bring one down.
Speaker 7:There you go. Well, let me tell you Howie and Hills was great. We'll talk about that later. We've got to make sure everybody's listening, or, tour directors, make sure you get us your. Player of the Month nominees. Yep, we've only got a couple days left in the month to do that. You have until April 5th to get us marches. But we've got a good show for you, for everybody, chris.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's going to be a fun show. I'm never going to be able to say it again without laughing no, it's going to be some fun stories. I'm never going to be able to say it again without laughing. No, it's going to be some fun stories, so I'm excited to get into it, All right let's go ahead and get started. Let's go ahead and get started.
Speaker 6:Ladies and gentlemen, golf Week Amateur Tour proudly presents Golf Week Amateur Tour the podcast Talking about all things. Golf Week Amateur Tour proudly presents Golf Week Amateur Tour the podcast Talking about all things Golf Week Amateur Tour, including interviews with tour directors, players and course professionals. Now here are your hosts, tim Newman and El Paso Las Cruces Tour Director, chris Rocha.
Speaker 7:Welcome back, Chris. I know you've got the allergies. You're allergic to something I'm allergic to bad golf.
Speaker 1:That's what it is.
Speaker 7:Is that what it is? Yeah, we were at. I don't know if I mentioned this to you, but we went to Howie in the Hills.
Speaker 4:You ever hear about that, yeah.
Speaker 7:Because this is our best episode in the history of our podcast. I don't know if we want to reference any others, but Howie in the Hills, the Michigan Resort was really nice. The courses were beautiful, the weather was great, terry and Mark got some really nice trophies.
Speaker 2:I really like the trophies.
Speaker 1:I saw a picture of a flag. Was that also included in it?
Speaker 7:No, well, I don't know. I don't know if they gave flags or not, but, um, but trophy was nice and one of the things that that mark did which I really liked. So they uh, part of the entry fee included. Uh, um, they had two things that were really nice, part of the entry fee included, like a per person dollar amount in the pro shop.
Speaker 3:Nice.
Speaker 7:So what Mark did was he bought five hats and then took them to a local embroidery and had flight winner From the course Embroidered on the side of from the course and it looked really nice.
Speaker 7:Nice on the course and it looked really nice, Nice. And the other thing that they did, that I thought was ingenious, you know, to kind of keep people interested and so forth. They did day two money, so they split the field in half and the bottom half whoever had the lowest score on Sunday got a $100 voucher for the pro shop.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, Depending on how you did on day one.
Speaker 2:No day two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we split it by however you did on day one.
Speaker 7:Day one and then day two was whoever had the lowest day two score. Wow, in the bottom half Right. Guys loved it had the lowest day two score Wow In the in the bottom half Right. Um, guys loved it. I, you know I'm I don't know if other other tours are doing that, but I thought that was great. Um, you know you, you you're giving giving guys who don't necessarily have a chance at at at being in the money for the regular tournament are still going to walk away or something.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:It's not a waste of time. They're doing something other than skins, or your name.
Speaker 7:That's pretty cool, yeah, but again the weather was nice. Restaurants, I mean, they had like five or six restaurants in this place and it wasn't as big as I thought it was going to be. The resort yeah, there was lots of it kind of reminded me a little bit of Hilton Head, how you know when you go in the resort at Palmetto Dunes how there's different communities in the resort. That's kind of how it was.
Speaker 7:But the main resort where the hotel was, they had like five or six restaurants, right there in the hotel complex Interesting. Yeah, it was nice. So a lot of people didn't know I was going to be there and that was good. So I had a good time there. And how about you?
Speaker 1:You know, just surviving every day, trying to figure out where my golf game went from 2024 to 2025. But I need to pick it up.
Speaker 7:We'll talk about that in the closing. We don't want to depress everybody, Right, right, uh, we'll talk about that in the closing. We don't want to. We don't want to depress everybody. We got a great episode today, Uh, so again, real good episode. We're going to talk to Roger and we've got the winners from the from the regional admission end. So, um, we, we need to get on Roger a little bit. I mean, he outdid himself this past week.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's going to be a fun story to talk about.
Speaker 7:So let's go ahead and bring Roger in. Roger, welcome back bud.
Speaker 3:Thank you, I think I'm going to be glad to be here.
Speaker 7:Well, I don't know, because I I need to tell you, I I don't know. I I got lyle's text before I got your text. So, um, I don't even know how to explain this. I I've never, you know, I I've never heard of this happening before you. You were, you like, I said I, I got lyle's text before I got your text and, and, roger, I don't even know how to explain this, I've never heard of this before, what? So? So you're gonna have to tell everybody what happened, because I, again, I've got no words so before I start, I gotta tell this isn't the first time.
Speaker 3:That's the problem.
Speaker 1:Oh no, this is not the first time. I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3:The first time it's happened on tour.
Speaker 7:Okay.
Speaker 3:I've gone to a golf course and I open up my trunk and my clubs are not there.
Speaker 7:Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:My excuse. I have three different cars that I drive. My excuse. I have three different cars that I drive and I have my SUV, and then I have my sedan and then I have a convertible. But the night before I decided to switch cars at the last minute and I threw some stuff like my shoes in the car and my bag of like we feel the one ball roll. But it is key that you throw your clubs in the trunk too.
Speaker 7:That's important. That's important.
Speaker 3:And I have like extra things in my SUV anyway and I had like a bag in there and maybe I saw that bag and I saw, oh yeah, I got my clubs. So I get to the court and it was our 20 hour and 20 minute drive down to North Carolina. We're playing. Yeah, open up my trunk and well, golly, there's no clubs in there. So just a couple of spares that, like, I have some extra clubs I go practice with. So that was an adventure, yeah. So I borrowed the pro shop, gave me a 64 degree sandwich and a putter. I had a driver actually in my car and a couple of clubs, and then some guys lent me some clubs. So I keep smell the set together. But it didn't really work out and not having a pitching wedge was the death of me. It was. Yeah, that was because I can hit a 64 degreedegree wedge about 30 yards. That doesn't help for the 100-yard shots.
Speaker 7:No, that's going to take you three there, so how did? But you didn't finish last though, right? No, I didn't no actually.
Speaker 3:So the first day and I was going to mention about what you said what that other tour did with the money was pretty interesting. So I rode with a guy and Lyle actually made an announcement. The guy I rode with I took over his reign because he had done the same thing and it was just a coincidence that we were riding together he said roger cowan, you're taking over for dave slosson and uh.
Speaker 3:So dave lent me some clubs, but dave and I were about uh in the in the middle point. We had 24 guys I think it was in our flight and we were right smack in the middle, so not too bad. I got a driver and I putted pretty well. But the funny thing was what you said about that second day score. Dave ended up the guy I rode with. He ended up having the lowest score in our flight that day, so he would have won that money you were talking about, but he ended up catapulting himself. Tied for third, I guess it was.
Speaker 7:Oh, wow, but he wins twice. Yeah, oh, he would have won twice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, so he would have won twice, yeah, and I moved up to like 10th out of 24. So I was overall can't complain too much about that, but I learned a lesson.
Speaker 7:Well, well, you do have another option, right? You could just have a complete set for each car.
Speaker 3:Each car. That's a good idea.
Speaker 7:And then you know I won't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1:That's a great idea. Well, because I asked you why you didn't just rent a set from the course.
Speaker 3:That would have been a whole lot easier. I wasn't thinking, yeah well, a set from the course. A whole lot easier, I will.
Speaker 6:I wasn't thinking, yeah, well, I think I told you, I'm a cheapskate, so that's, that's the real reason, oh, yeah, I did like my, so I had a epic callaway, epic driver that I regularly play with.
Speaker 3:Anyway, I guess that those expert clubs were a couple of clubs I had taken to the range to like practice with. So at least I had some of the clubs that I actually did like right now filled in with the others, but that's yeah so I hopefully I've learned my lesson, but it was. It was a good, it was a, it was a, it was a lot of fun actually I'm sure yeah sure it was so.
Speaker 7:So I did a tournament one time where a guy it was on a Sunday in Atlanta and a guy showed up on Sunday after a bachelor's party and forgot his shoes. Oh, he was barefoot, oh, like no shoes. Like no shoes, no shoes. Had his clubs, but no shoes, and I said I'm okay. If the course is okay with it, I'm okay with it. Good luck, don't hurt yourself. Um yeah you know so, but without the club that that's a first rider but, yeah, but thanks, but thank you.
Speaker 3:Thank you for that I'm just hoping somebody takes over my reign someday, but I don't know that that's going to happen. That's tough to be.
Speaker 7:What do you have for us this week?
Speaker 3:So last time we did this, I mentioned about. Definitions are important and I don't want to bore people listening to this, but there's a reason I want to talk about definitions, because some stuff came up already this year and it's really key to playing the game and what you can do and what you can't do. And even before the definitions, old habits are really hard to break and believe.
Speaker 3:It's been six years now since the 2019 rules changes, which doesn't seem that you know it's six years, that's a long time, but some of the wording has changed and even like penalty areas versus hazards, temporary water versus casual water and things like that. And for a rules guy and in any of these websites I'm on or chat groups, we all always still cringe because people aren't using the right terms. And it does make a difference sometimes because you've got to make sure you've got the term right so that you can give the right ruling. Okay, and like it's temporary water now, not casual water.
Speaker 3:Like I said, and I'm bringing that up for a reason, because I'm going to go over something and my friends are some of my golf friends that aren't on tour and even the tour guys that I'm in a tech group with. They're good sports because sometimes I'll ask them what do you mean by? What's the answer to this? And I'll be surprised if they get it right. And usually it's not a trick question. I don't try to trick people like the USDA tries to trick people on those rules test. I swear they do. But it's a good gauge for me to go over stuff like on this podcast, because I know what people know and what they don't know. So a couple of things like definitions, though, like what is the definition of a ball out of bounds, and that's like one that I will give my friends, or what is the definition of a ball when is a ball in a penalty area so for out of bounds? And I like to use that one because if you're out of bounds you get one of the harshest penalties there's no going back.
Speaker 3:You have to go back, play another ball, plus get a penalty stroke. Hope you hit it in the fairway the next time. And then now let's say it was a tee shot. Now you're hitting your fourth shot.
Speaker 3:So, out of bounds is only when the ball is completely out of bounds. The whole ball needs to be completely out of bounds is only when the ball is completely out of bounds. The whole ball needs to be completely out of bounds. If it's off a line. Let's say there's a painted white line on the ground and part of it touches that line, you're good. If it's stakes and you line it up and any part of it is on that imaginary line, even just the sliver of it, you're inbound and that's important because you just save yourself stroke and distance.
Speaker 2:Right right.
Speaker 3:Okay. Now how about a ball in a penalty area? I almost said water hazard In a penalty area? It's almost like I'll say the opposite as long as any part of it touches that part of it, it's in the penalty area. Okay, so the whole ball doesn't have to be in the penalty area. If it just is on the red line, it's considered in the penalty area. So those are two good examples of knowing.
Speaker 3:The definition is important because it could save you a stroke or it could also cost you a stroke. For those definitions and I was mentioning about casual it used to be called casual water, now it's called temporary water. In the tournament I just played in this past weekend, we had a red stake and the red stake was literally 20 yards into the water and we're looking at it like and a guy's ball was on the edge of this water, but the red stake was 20 yards deep, okay, so what is that water in between the red stake and where we were standing in the fairway? What is that water considered? That's considered temporary water. It's not part of the penalty area. Uh, does that? Can you picture that? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So the player was going to get free relief from from that, not from the penalty area. He's going to get free relief from the temporary water, and temporary water falls under one of the four things that are called abnormal course conditions and that's where temporary water stands. So, um, that was important there because on this course I played with a guy that played there regularly and he said normally that water is 20 yards the opposite side of the red stake, so something. It wasn't like we had had a whole lot of rain, but I guess it was high tide or whatever it was.
Speaker 3:So it's important that you know what the definition is out of bounds, penalty area, temporary water versus the red penalty area, so that you can apply the right rule or not have to take a penalty stroke where you're not needing to. Exactly so I was thinking about penalty errors. I was going to say about a penalty area when you're Give me one sec here, because I wrote something down that I thought was oh, about the penalty areas, uh, and and the temporary water? That's what I was. So there's no such thing as temporary water in a penalty area and the reason that? Just think about this for a sec.
Speaker 3:A lot of you know, with the new definition of penalty areas, woods are now penalty areas all over the place. Where in the past they weren't Penalty areas were water hazards, basically right Before most of them. But now so many courses are lining, at least where we live, so many courses have the woods as penalty areas. But let's say you go in those woods and there's water there, even temporary, it rains. Well, you don't get relief for that because you're in a penalty area. So there's no relief for temporary water in a penalty area. That make sense.
Speaker 5:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:So that happened as well because we were in the the, it happened at the course we were at. And then another thing about like what is the definition of? You know, where does a penalty area start? And if it's not marked I think I've mentioned this before If it's a pond there and there's no red stakes, yeah, I had one guy say, well, there's no stakes, you can't take relief.
Speaker 3:I say the definition within the penalty area includes things like ponds, ditches, lakes, water features, even if they're not marked. And that penalty area would start basically where the slope of the ground goes down. And if it's a flat area, basically you would make a judgment call If you had to call in the committee, like where does it start, where does it end? And that happened in the group I was playing with. A guy's ball went into the area. There were no stakes but there was just water everywhere and we could tell it wasn't, it was, it was. It was basically more like a a ditch, I'd say than a than a lake, and we gave him release because it was water that was always there. So that was a penalty area.
Speaker 7:And generally you'd be able to tell where the water would stop, the high water mark or what have you. There would be any grass, there'd be grass or no grass. Obviously, sometimes that's not the case and then you've got to make that call, but most of the time you're going to be able to tell really pretty easy where the penalty area is now and not the hazard line. Good job.
Speaker 3:You're doing good, Chris. Go to the hazard class.
Speaker 7:Well, you got me a few weeks ago on that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right. And then, like on my home course, we have it's lined by ditches and it gets very wet out there, but often the water overflows and I end up having to take relief for temporary water and that that comes up in our tournaments there as well. It's temporary water Again. There's lots of other definitions. Those are really important, just to know, because so many people go. They either hit the ball out of bounds or you have to bring your partner over to see. All right is it?
Speaker 3:inbounds, is it not inbounds? But you need to know that because, like I said, it's one of the harshest penalties stroking this Exactly, yeah, yeah, because, like I said, it's one of the harshest penalties stroking this. Exactly that was it that I had for those. I mean, there's tons more and I could go over a few each week or something, but I thought those were important, yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't believe it's been six years since the rule changed. It seems like it was just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3:Yep 2019, january 1st 2019.
Speaker 1:We need to get. If your ball's on a divot, get free relief. That needs to become a rule already.
Speaker 3:I will never agree with that. I'm sorry, and you know these tech groups I'm on. That question comes up all the time and we will get 100 responses and replies on it and you know most, most of them. Uh, yeah, it goes probably 50 50. But like, what's an imperfection? What's a divot? What's not a divot? What if it was a divot from three weeks ago? That's still, that's kind of grown in but not not grown in. It's all that. What if somebody filled in a sand?
Speaker 3:So I'm a member of these rules chat groups and then you get a lot of people talking about well, if I'm playing with my buddies, it's like, well, this is a chat group about the rules. If you're playing with your buddy, do whatever you want. People come here to find out the actual rules. And you know what's surprising about those chat groups and that people they really don't. A lot of people don't realize like there are things like the golf week amateur tour, that we play by the rules, or that there's competitions and all that kind of stuff. Like there's like what do you care what the rule is? We're not on tv playing. I say, well, I know, we're an organization that has 10 000 people that play in it. I think that's what we're up to, something like that, and we play by the rules. So you know it.
Speaker 7:It is good to have the knowledge it, it is, and, and maybe you know again, there's nothing wrong with playing with your buddies. It's fun, it is what it is, but when, when, but when you're playing by the rules, the game really changes. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yes, Yep, and I'm totally so. Sometimes I get in competitions with guys that never have to play by the rules and I'm not that good a golfer, but when they get out I crush them like every time by like 15 or 20. I'm talking like literally and it's like well, now you know what it's like to play by the rules. It's like, wow, this was different.
Speaker 1:Exactly yeah, especially the gimmies, and we don't do gimmies People are upset about that.
Speaker 3:So we're not supposed to be doing that. What? Right uh, other than you know, other than definition, I'll just say the first couple of tournaments it's when we've talked about these things before that it's basically the same. Those same basic elements keep coming up relief from a car, path, path and water, hazard, penalty areas, things like that. Those are the same things that are coming up and knowing about the basics on those have come up in our tournaments that have started this year so far. I think our tour has had three tournaments so far.
Speaker 7:Yeah, and like always you have uh real good turnouts. I mean, obviously loud cloud does a great job there and you guys have have uh huge turnouts um, uh I.
Speaker 3:I just gotta ask you guys something you didn't notice I learned. I'm a quick learner. I'm maybe not about remembering my clubs, but I'm a quick learner about one thing I noticed in a past video with one of your guys.
Speaker 9:They had a trophy in the background, so I don't know if you can see I put a trophy back there.
Speaker 3:I hope I earn another one in the next couple of years.
Speaker 7:Well, let's put it this way, roger we made a deal with Kevin Odom from the Louisiana North Tour If he wins three in a row, he's going to be a regular guest. So you forget your clubs three times in a row, we'll create a new segment for you.
Speaker 3:That sounds good, all right. Yeah, they've got two tournament two days in a row, two separate tournaments on our tour, but I'm out of town the next one, so it'll be a while since I get to play again, which I'm going to miss it. But yeah, I'm done. Okay this year so far. Standings-wise.
Speaker 7:Well, what's that trophy that you got back here?
Speaker 3:That was the 2022 regional that I won, so that's probably my best one. Regional yeah, I don't think I've won since then, so I don't think I won any. I know I didn't win any in 2024.
Speaker 7:Well, you've got to bring your own clubs.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 7:Really helps.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that helps. That'll definitely help.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it did make you appreciate some. Like I said, I didn't have a pitching wedge and I did have a nine iron, a borrowed nine iron, but it just wasn't the same and not having a pitching wedge or a gap wedge was just killer. Yeah, which you can imagine. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7:Yeah, was just killer, yeah, which you can imagine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, when a number of years ago, when I was playing a lot and traveling a lot, I I actually had two sets of clubs, one set that I traveled with that just pretty much stayed in my travel air travel bag, and then the sets I would normally play with and, um, yeah, that you know that way, if something ever happened, I I had the extra set, but the travel set was just never had to worry about forgetting to pack something up in it or anything. We just took off and went.
Speaker 3:I might have to get three sets, in case I leave a set out, of course.
Speaker 7:Oh my goodness, I'm going to hook you up with my buddy Will Allen from Atlanta. I'm going to hook you up with my buddy Will Allen from Atlanta. Will Allen was a guy who got in his car, drove all the way to a tournament, played in the tournament and after the tournament was over, realized he left his car keys at home oh no yeah, so anyway. Well, roger, thanks so much For all that you do and we'll see you here real soon.
Speaker 3:Okay, thank, you guys appreciate it, see you buddy.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, tim, it's great to have Roger back on. You know, it's been a little while since we've had him, but it's always a pleasure to have him on there and being able to define these rules and these sayings, because, because, um, you know, you don't have the privilege of getting it as much as I do now, but, uh, during the tournaments, getting rules questions while I'm trying to play is not fun, um, but I think my guys are understanding that. You know, just play two balls, because I'm gonna ignore your eight texts as you send me, and you're probably done with that hole anyway, and you played two balls anyways and you're you probably with that hole anyway and you played two bowls anyways and you're probably going to score on both of them, right, so, um, but it's great to have the clarification, cause I I've known some guys that have told me, uh, because of his segments they know the rules better and they've actually used some of his.
Speaker 1:I don't want to call them cheat sheets, but uh, but being able to use the role in your advantage, to their advantage, and it's helped them out. So it's always great to have Roger on here. It is.
Speaker 7:You know, and so I sent him a question, you know, a few weeks ago, and I kept saying hazard, kept saying hazard. And he said, tim, I don't know what you're talking about. I said what are you talking about, roger? Just answer the question, man. He said I don't know what a hazard is.
Speaker 1:Right, it's out of his system now.
Speaker 7:He said did you mean penalty area? Yes, yeah, I did. You knew, that's what I meant. He laughed, he laughed.
Speaker 1:Now we have the upper hand with him forgetting his clubs. I know someone who went out to a party for his birthday the day before retirement and had to get a ride home, which was great, but didn't realize that his car was in a parking garage that was closed Sundays, and guess where his clubs were. Didn't realize that his car was in a parking garage that was closed Sundays, oh boy, and guess where his clubs were in the garage Closed parking garage.
Speaker 7:Yeah, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:And he had to go to the course and he had to actually rent clubs and, uh, he didn't do pretty bad. But you know he tried to plan ahead and and good thing he did, but I mean I guess he had too much fun to be able to drive home.
Speaker 7:His name wasn't Chris, was it? I'm not talking about you. No, it was not me.
Speaker 1:But I'm not going to confirm or deny any allegations of that. I just think it's funny because you know we all try our best, like even me, especially when I'm traveling and have to drive to the location. I'll stop maybe five, ten minutes because I'm like, damn it, I packed my bag. I might as well stop now and get to the destination and not have my bag. So even I do that, but at least I check way before an hour and a half at the parking lot of the golf course oh, you got you it's.
Speaker 7:I shouldn't have to say this, but you gotta have your clubs yes, yeah, especially for a golf tournament. Yes, well, roger, roger's awesome. Obviously he's a good sport with that and um you know, he, he mentioned he said it wasn't a lot a lot of content, but I I those two pieces of information that that he gave is huge.
Speaker 1:I mean, right, it's, it's, it could be a difference between two and three strokes, definitely, I mean, and you can use it on any course during any time of the season. Yeah, um it, it, it will. You said it'll help you save strokes At the same time. I'm pretty sure there's been a time where you're like man, is this temporary water or is this, you know, penalty area?
Speaker 1:Um or if, if we're a team, have a shotgun at 7am and the spring cruise just got turned off, uh, and there's a collection of water somewhere, what are my options? So it's always great to know those things, because you never know when you can use it or you can help somebody else with that information Right, exactly, exactly, well, you know.
Speaker 7:Again, roger, thanks, we need to make sure we thank him for his time and everybody understands amount of time that Roger puts into doing these segments for us. I don't think people realize we give him some just general topics and then he— he runs with it and he goes and does research and really does prepare to come on. And you know it's it's so I and he does. He does it because he loves it, he does it because he loves the tour and wants to help and and you know we, we can't thank him enough for for what he does For sure For us. Roger, thanks, we really do appreciate it and obviously we'll we'll talk to you again here real soon. Appreciate it and obviously we'll talk to you again here real soon. Chris, hello, what the hell in the hills?
Speaker 1:I just, mary, I just love saying I think of a band. That'd be a good name for a band. Would it Like like a jazz band or a I don't know, but it'd be a pretty cool band name so um and and again I, as we said in the opening, it was great um, I really here's.
Speaker 7:You know, there's a difference between the seniors and golf week in the golf week side. Um, obviously the competition is the same. Everybody wants to win, but the senior side guys are just much, much more laid back, still having as much fun. Competition is still there, but it just seems down a notch. I don't know if it's.
Speaker 1:No, I agree you know what I mean. When I was director of the senior tour here, the guys would come in and they'd turn in their scorecard, but they really didn't even care how it ended out. You know, let's get a drink, let's hang out, let's just talk. And they were just having a good time trying to get out of the house.
Speaker 1:Most of them were retired, so you know, just being able to go out there and be with a group of guys and gals that just wanted to go out and play some golf, some competitive golf they just seemed real chill about it and whether they missed their last putt to win or get into the prize money, they were like, okay, well, it is what it is, and I think just having those years under their belt kind of gives you that attitude of nothing you can do to change it.
Speaker 7:Exactly exactly, and you know, saw a lot of people there that wasn't expecting. I saw one of my Atlanta members there, Jesse Durham. It was good to see him. Shep Ellis from he's in a deflate in Orlando, met him in Chicago when I was tour director up there, so it was really good seeing him. Charlie James Saw him. Let's see who else was there. Robbie Got to see Robbie Robinson and I'll come back to Robbie here in a second. But Saul, let's see who else was it? Gary Granback from Chicago who I met when we were up there. Oh, I know I'm missing somebody. Shane McAdams yeah, Tampa Tour director. He was there. Nice, A lot of people had a good time Again, not expecting to see them along with some of the other people that were up there.
Speaker 7:So it was a good time, but I had an opportunity to sit down and talk to Robbie a little bit and I was really surprised. Robbie told me how the podcast him being on the podcast changed his life Really and that's not a joke. That's not a joke to think about his time in the service in a different way and got him to open up about some of the things that he's been keeping.
Speaker 7:Keeping back Right. Yeah, I was shocked, and so when we do this, it was something that number one I wasn't expecting, and it's not about us, it's always about them, it's always about the members. It made a big impression on me and I want to let you know that, how much he appreciated, how much he appreciated us having him on, even though he didn't want to do it.
Speaker 8:Right.
Speaker 7:But he's. But he was so glad that he did it and he wants to come on again. I said, well, we'll have you on it. You know, whenever you're not on the cruise if you want to come on, you know well, whenever you're not on the cruise, if you want to come on, you know we'll have you on. But I want to let you know that. And I told him. I said you know, other veterans have told us no, I'm not going to force anybody to come on. If you don't want to come on, that's fine. And people have different reasons for wanting to and not wanting to, especially from that perspective. And you know we respect that. And you know I think I never really looked at it from the, from his perspective and and some of the things that he he really at the time had no interest in in bringing up and I you know when we do this.
Speaker 7:we just kind of let them go Right. What you want to talk about with your military service and we don't want to talk about that, we won't, we won't bring up and go on from there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, we usually give them how they say. You know, we give them the floor and let them kind of leave that conversation because some topics can be harder to talk about than others. Yeah, because some topics can be harder to talk about than others.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we're not here to bring up any past remorse or any bad memories.
Speaker 1:We're just here to Celebrate, yeah, so I mean that's awesome. I'm glad you shared that because you know we hear it all the time, especially during nationals, as we're walking around you and me. You know we get the compliments and this and that, but I don't think everybody understands how difficult it can be to come up here. And now that we're video, you know, when we were just audio it was a little easier, and now that we're video those nerves can come up and we appreciate everyone that comes on there, because without them we wouldn't have anything to talk about and we wouldn't have a podcast.
Speaker 7:Let's get into the winners bud. Let's do it. Welcome to the famed Mission Inn Resort. We've been playing here over the last two days. They've taken really good care of us. We're sitting in here in the Vista room. They've got us set up Us. We're checking in and scoring was. The staff here has been really good. Good, we've got our first champion of the of the. We've got our first champion of the tournament. In is dave rummels and the champ flight dave.
Speaker 4:congratulations on the win this week. It was, uh, it was a tough, tough the two days out there for everybody. So it was just trying. I'm trying to hang in there as best you can and hopefully make a few birdies. I didn't make a single birdie yesterday and I didn't make a birdie the front nine. So I finally got it going the last nine, but it was.
Speaker 4:It's really difficult. I think the main problem you have out here is it's so tight and if you miss the fur we get a lot of iffy the abs, real iffy like, and you know you have to hit a lot of shots under tree limbs and stuff. And you know I felt like at the front nine, even though I had seven in a row, I had some decent shots but I just couldn't make a par. I either had mud on the ball or I was in a rut or in a tree. I just could not seem to make a par. I had some poor chip shots. Really. I mean I didn't really hit any good chip shots in that stretch.
Speaker 4:And in the back nine I had it going. I had four buries and I should have had a fifth At 10, I had an easy chip just off the front edge and didn't get that up and down. So that kind of got me going. I said, hey look, you know you got to get, got to get it. Now is the time. You got to run out of holes. You only got eight holes left. You got to turn around.
Speaker 7:Then I made two talk about the mindset again, because you know looking at your scorecard seven bogeys in a row.
Speaker 4:I've never done that since I've been playing golf.
Speaker 7:And then you turn around, talk about the mindset.
Speaker 4:I already came up here knowing that. When I told my wife, I said if I make a bunch of bogeys I'm not going to get mad, because I know how tough a course it is, because if you get mad on this course you're gonna shoot mid-eighths. So I just try to stay patient. I think for me, uh, since I don't play much golf, my short game is is not up to the standard that needs to be. So when I miss greens, like I did on those sevens in a row, I didn't. I didn't get any up and down because I didn't hit it close enough. You know, I had a money, many chips. I left 12, 15 feet short. So you can't do that. The score you've got to be able to get them inside of three, four feet and really that's the area where it's really touch and you have to practice in it.
Speaker 7:Yeah, and it's the touch that's going to be able to be able to get, like you said, inside that three feet.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I really, to be honest with you, I haven't played in competitive golf since 2016,. So I don't practice at all. I play nine holes or 18 holes a week. That's it on Thursdays, and I might hit occasional balls here and there, but not enough to really to be consistent. So now that I turn amateur I just turned amateur about two months ago I'm going to try to play some tournaments, so hopefully my boss will let me play a little bit more.
Speaker 4:He's kind of tough. He was squealing when I had two days off on the week. He said you're taking a week off. You can't do that. You know we're busy. I said, ryan, I gave you a three-month notice. You knew I was going to take the time off. So he'll think he'll be okay with me taking a few days off, but I still have that competitive fire off. Uh, but I still have that competitive fire.
Speaker 4:You know, I played professional golf for 36 years, so I still have that desire to play and I'm getting the age now, right, you know it's almost too late, I'm 67. So, oh, it's like it's. It's not just. I still have it. Like I said, I still have a desire. I just want to play some tournaments. It's just fun to get the nerves going. Yes, I don't know, for some reason I I actually enjoy that it's. I don't know if I'm something wrong with me, but I think there's something wrong with all that. It's just I thought why I want to put myself through that punishment. But I I enjoyed just trying to to fight the nerves and just play the best you can through all that.
Speaker 7:But that's kind of who we are right yes, I mean, that's one of the reasons why we do this. You, you know, you talk about age. You know, a couple of years ago we had somebody in the A-flight who was 71 years old, won a national championship oh shit, in the golf week, not the senior side. So it's everybody out there listening. It's never too late to pick up the club no-transcript mad.
Speaker 4:I came close a couple of times, losing my cool today. But you know, I just I kept telling myself, just hang in, hang in. Everybody else is playing poorly. If you just get it going, you might have a chance.
Speaker 7:Yeah, and that's, that's the other thing too. I mean this, this, this tour. You know we don't, we don't relish in other people playing poorly, you know that is yeah, I don't like to see that.
Speaker 4:I don't like to see it, and especially in the group you're playing in, cause I actually sometimes, if you're playing well and there's other guys in a, it's like the language is bad. Yes, it's difficult to stay focused, and that's kind of what happened with our two groups for two days. The course conditions were tough enough that if you weren't hitting the ball well, you're going to shoot some high scores.
Speaker 7:So, which is the toughest course, do you think?
Speaker 4:I didn't play but I wrote down the one we played the first day because it's much tighter and much quirkier. There's a lot of blind shots on the other east. So I didn day because it's it's much tighter and much quirkier. There's a lot of blind shots on the other east. Yeah, yeah, so I didn't. I didn't play a practice round so I didn't know where I was going.
Speaker 4:The first day I had no idea on some holes. So I played this other one a couple times when I first opened. So I I remembered a few holes but but it's been 30 some years since I've gone. So I I really had to really just kind of like pick out a yardage how far I wanted to hit it or the tee and try to stay back away from the tree lines and stuff. So that's the hardest part out here because you want to try to get down as far as it can. But some of those holes you couldn't take that chance because the tree line kind of and there it was and there it was down where he and I had a couple on the front and I was in the fairway having my shot, I was underneath the tree tree and punch it. Unfortunately I didn't hit good shots coming in. You've got to have a lot of discipline on a course like this. You've got to stick to your guns and play high percentage golf, even if it leaves you longer shots into the green.
Speaker 7:That's one thing. That's also fine with Chanflet players. You guys go in with a plan and you pick your spot. We're as high handicapped.
Speaker 4:It doesn't matter, we're pulling out driver.
Speaker 4:The thing that really gets away with most people is when they're not swinging well, they go away from the game plan. They start playing more aggressive Right and that's what really gets you in trouble. And a course like this you can't. You have to be disciplined Right and say like I only need to hit a5 off this tee. You have to do it because if you start getting aggressive it can really get you in trouble. I'll give you a big number, yeah, big numbers. Doubles and triples pretty easily. Well, dave, thank you so much for all of us, and I was congratulating us. Thanks for having us. We'll talk to you soon. Sounds good, all right.
Speaker 7:Welcome back to the Vista Room, the Mission Resort. We've got Dwayne. Congratulations on the win this weekend, Thank you, Thank you. A-flight is tough competition. I mean looking at the scores, you went 74-81, 1-by-2 over Al Clerico. Talk about the round yesterday.
Speaker 9:Well, yesterday it was some good shots, some lucky shots and some pretty good putting, and the course was in really good shape. The greens were beautiful and I got lucky on a few shots and made a few puts.
Speaker 7:And today, you know, talk to some players that have come in. Some said yesterday was tougher, some said today was tougher. Today was tougher.
Speaker 9:What was tougher today? Way tougher today. I think one thing the greens were faster. The greens yesterday were plush. You know medium speed was tougher today, way tougher today, I think, uh, one thing the greens were faster. Um, the greens yesterday were plush. Um, you know medium speed, so you could, you know, you, you didn't feel you felt comfortable rolling the ball up to the hole and not worrying about getting too far by today.
Speaker 9:Um, some of the pin placements on some of these holes were murderous. Um, you know it was. It was a lot of fun, uh, but you know, you have so much elevation change right on this course and it really got all of us at some point during a round I think it was on number six today it was straight up the hill, I almost got to the green and then it rolls back down 40 yards and then I hit it and it rolls back down 40 yards and I hit it and I get to about 20 yards and then I hit it over the back. So it was one of those courses that, especially in Florida, you don't get to play a lot, a lot of flat courses down here.
Speaker 7:Yeah, so I mean you were paired with Al and Robin. You were up by four over Al going in today and five over Robin, but you shot 81 and they both won 79. How was it going back and forth with that group today?
Speaker 9:Oh it was great, you know we all. So I started out one under for the first five holes and felt really comfortable. But then we got into the teeth of the golf course and um, robin is a little bit longer than me and Al and Al is very consistent um in his, in his shots, um, I got a little wobbly on a couple of holes, um, and that brought them right back into the, into the match, um and uh, but I made a few birdies. That that kept it, you know, kind of bouncing back and forth. Robin made a good number of birdies. Al was all day long just barely outside the hole for birdie. So he, he didn't get one today. Uh, he deserved it. He hit some really good shots, some really good putts and they just didn't fall. Well, that's, that's just kind of how it works.
Speaker 7:sometimes you know and and, and you just kind of hang on and and and win. But you know, for me it's it's a competition, especially when you know you, you're in the last group and then the winner comes out of last group and the other other two guys that you're with it's right there. So you're, you're banging each, every, every shot, every hole. That's, to me, is what really makes it fun it does they?
Speaker 9:uh. We got down to the and really you've got uh on 15. It's a short par three but if you miss the shot, yeah, you're in the junk and you might be taking trouble. Yeah and uh. So we all hit um right on the center of the green there, made par, um and then um al and um robin got Al and Robin got in a little trouble on 16. And I almost missed the green but got on to put it for par and so I got a little bit more room there and then hit probably the best drive of the day on 17. Because to me that's one of the scariest holes on the golf course, especially if your lead's not very big. You got to put it up over the trees, you got nowhere to land it and you got to put that second shot in a good place um to be able to um to get an easy shot into the green.
Speaker 7:So I was thinking 18 because you got number one. You got to go over the water and then you got the water all the way down the side, on the right side, and that green to me again I didn't play, but to me it this morning it looks like it's actually kind of tucked behind that was a tough pin placement today, Al.
Speaker 9:All three got off the tee box. Okay, there Al hit his ball a little bit to the right and he needed to make birdie here to put the pressure on me because I had a two-stroke lead. It was almost an impossible putt because there was a ridge and it was a really tough putt to get close, but we ended up. I ended up coasting in because I had that lead. So I three putted the last two greens because I really had to try to make them. That's right, Two stroke wingy.
Speaker 7:I wanted to make them. I saw you collecting some money from them over there. I did it with you wherever, which, again, it's always good as well.
Speaker 9:Always have some good little fun game that we do on the side. So um it's, it's always competitive and a lot of fun. So what's next? Uh, so next when two weeks? Uh, reunion. Also, I've got some FSGA events coming up, uh, for qualifying for some FSGA events and like the senior open and the senior amateur, but then I think we're at reunion in two weeks. I haven't played the Palmer course, I've played the Watson course and they're top notch courses in Orlando.
Speaker 7:Actually it's been a while since I played down there, but I love this course.
Speaker 9:I would highly recommend it. I, like you, know Terry and Mark do such a great job down here, and one of our favorite courses is PGA Village in Port St Lucie. They always do a great job for us there. It's really great golfing courses. I haven't played Reunion in about four years, but when I played it it was beautiful, so I'm looking forward to that. I know we're claiming PGA National this year, so there's a lot of great events that are coming up and I'm looking forward to coming back out here and playing with my buddies. Yeah, it's going to be great. Now I know I'll be at PGA Village as well, so I'm looking forward to going out there with you guys. I would say, if anybody listens to this podcast, if you get a chance to come down to PGA Village, it is one of the best golf courses we play Well.
Speaker 7:Dwayne, thanks. So much, congratulations, and we'll see you down the road. All right, thank you. Welcome back to the Vista Room at the famed Mission Inn Resort, here with our B-Flight champion, doug Chapman. All the way from the Michigan Tour, doug, congratulations.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 7:Welcome to the show. So you won. Today you went 80-85, one by three, over Jeff Kelly on the Orlando Tour. Talk a little bit about yesterday's round. We'll talk about the courses later and see what you think.
Speaker 2:But talk about your round yesterday and what you did. Well Started out driving really well all day long, hitting fairways and hitting greens, which is normal, what you want to try to do, and so that seemed to be my strong point yesterday.
Speaker 7:Well, you made a couple birdies yesterday too, so you got some skin money.
Speaker 2:I think I got tied. I don't think I won any skins, I think you got two.
Speaker 7:It's showing two. No, I'm sorry I can't read. Jeff won two skins yesterday, see, so maybe we'll give you a couple of skin money. You take the win, right? That's what's most important anyway, right? Yes, so today you shot 85. First thing you said when you sat down you don't want to talk about your front nine, right, right, it happens. So you shot 80. So what happened, seriously, what happened on the front night today?
Speaker 2:Um, got into trouble a little bit with some of my drives. Got into some areas that was uh where you don't want to be, and uh just couldn't recover very well.
Speaker 7:So but you went 45, 40, so you, so you did recover on the what was the key to turn things around in the back nine today.
Speaker 2:Sat down, had a talk with myself, started hitting the ball back in the fairway.
Speaker 3:Stop doing that.
Speaker 2:Stop. It Just started hitting more fairways and greens. The front nine played. I thought it played tough today because you're so much of the course is back uphill Right and trying to judge that which normally down here in Florida we don't have that Right. So just judging the distance is back up there.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Getting that right.
Speaker 7:I could see that as I rode around the course today, but luckily again, we don't want people to play bad, but Jeff shot 45 too, so you didn't really lose any ground.
Speaker 2:No, which kind of wasn't the case. All the guys in my group was having some trouble today in their front nine.
Speaker 7:Well, you know it's funny. You say that because you know the champ. Late winter he came in and he had seven straight bogeys on the front, nine, and that's something he said he hasn't done in forever Seven straight bogeys on the front and then finish up with four bogeys on the back. But out of both courses, which did you think was tougher? Because some guys have said yeah, she was tougher, some guys have said today was tougher.
Speaker 2:No, the first course we played today was easier than today's course. So the back nine here resembles a lot of the other course and we don't have the hills and we're back more on flat ground and stuff. But the front nine, playing back up into the hills, was challenging Very.
Speaker 7:So when are you heading back to Michigan? Three weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 2:You're going to be around here for a reunion. No, I'm playing in a member guest. I promised a friend I'd play in a member guest.
Speaker 7:You're around here for a reunion.
Speaker 2:No, I'm playing on a member guest. I promised a friend I'd play on a member guest. Oh you do. You're allowed to miss the tournament here and there. Yeah, I played over in Kissimmee. Okay, and when I come back down next year I'll make sure I'll play more of these.
Speaker 7:So what's your favorite course to play on tour up in Tuffman, michigan, arcadia Bluffs? Yeah so, anybody, anybody who's up that way, that's the course to not miss.
Speaker 2:It resembles a lot of. It's a Scottish-type course, but it plays on Lake Michigan, so you have all the views of Lake Michigan. So it's like you're playing on an ocean.
Speaker 7:But you've got to do it in the summertime, when it snows. Oh yeah, so it's summertime, when's the snow?
Speaker 2:going to be gone from up there it's snowing.
Speaker 7:Oh yeah, so it's snow, so it's summertime when it's snowing. When's the snow going to be gone from up?
Speaker 2:there it's gone. Now they're playing golf.
Speaker 7:Well, I saw. You know. The Golf Week tour director, michelle Gillen, posted some pictures on Facebook last night and she still had snow, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I'm saying no, we April and we're going to play in Egypt Valley, which is the senior tour. We used to play that Okay, up by Grand Rapids Okay, but we play really nice great courses. Dennis, that runs our tour up there. He does a great job with everything and I'll give a shout out to him. He runs a good program.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I love Dennis Nault's awesome. I love him program. Yeah, I love Dennis Nault, it's awesome. I love him Anytime he comes around. He's a fun guy to hang out with and talk with, but always hear good things about his tournaments and players love him. Dennis, keep it up. Stop talking to me. I'm going to get you on the podcast one of these days.
Speaker 8:Well, Doug, we could be here for an hour.
Speaker 7:That's okay. I love it when you talk to him. You're going to learn something, right, right. So well, doug, congratulations, it's good to see you. Yeah, travel safe and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2:All right Thanks.
Speaker 7:Welcome back to Howie in the Hills and the famed Mission Inn Resort. We've got our sea flight champion, ted Okowski. Ted, congratulations on the win this weekend, bud. Thank you appreciate it. So first off, you know, telling about your round yesterday.
Speaker 8:Uh, we, we played the the las colinas course yesterday and, if you don't know, las colinas means hills. Yeah, we saw a lot of hills, especially on the green, so yeah, it was interesting. I um uh had never played either course before, so it was new to me. And luckily, um, a good friend of mine, uh, john, that I was playing with, knows the course well and uh helped me manage the shots and stuff like that. And you know us golfers, we all think that we're pga tour pros and and you know we should shoot a 67 as a timeout and you know I was disappointed with my round. Then I looked at the leaderboard and I was like, oh, not so bad, he's this. So bad.
Speaker 7:You're only one shot back, so you weren't out of it. You were right where you really need to be in the final group, going into the round today at the El Campeon, which means the champion course. So there we go. Tell me about that.
Speaker 8:Well, it was a little tougher today, so the course is tighter. The greens were much slower, so it made you think that. You know, after yesterday I left half my first putts short, but it was super challenging and super fun. I think when we made the turn I had like a four-shot lead and three shots later I was three shots right. So you know, luckily I was able to score well at the end and come out on top.
Speaker 7:So well, you, you were paired with, um uh, mike Sickles today, right, and, and were you tied with him yesterday?
Speaker 8:uh, he was one stroke ahead of me.
Speaker 7:I was yesterday, yeah, so he was one one stroke up on it yeah um. So what was it like going back and forth today?
Speaker 8:it was great. He's like a really serious golfer, you know, and to me golf should be fun, you know, whether you win, lose or whatever. You're outdoors playing out, exactly beautiful. And, um, you know, I try to share a little jesus with everybody when I'm out there on the course and I'll learn a little bit about their lives. And just, I've made so many friends on this tour. Probably three of my best friends are from the senior tour.
Speaker 7:How awesome is that I mean that's. I mean we, we talk about that all the time, but you know to, to hear, you know players come off off the course and you know, in a tournament like this, by the way, it the weather has been great, and for you to mention that again, that just kind of shows what the tour is really all about. Yeah, there's a golf, there's a competition, but it's about the camaraderie, it's the friendships, it's the relationships that we build along the way.
Speaker 8:Yeah, and I'm a farm kid originally from upstate New York and some of the most beautiful scenery and animals I've ever seen have been on golf courses. It's really spectacular.
Speaker 7:Yeah, actually yesterday riding around we saw some wild turkeys yeah, saw them.
Speaker 8:Sandhill cranes wherever yeah, saw them Tons of alligators.
Speaker 7:I didn't see any alligators yesterday, but that's okay, I'm not seeing them. You know, if they're hidden I'll be okay. So you know you want my two strokes, obviously. You know you want my two strokes, obviously. Again, mike Sickles. But Jim Siders from the Columbus Ohio tour came in to play. I mean, there was people really from all over the country here. So Columbus Ohio, no, you're good, there was somebody from Michigan in the sea flight.
Speaker 8:You know, that's the funny thing is like you play with these guys and you find things in common with them. You know the guy the guy you said from Columbus Ohio actually lives in Alba, florida, where I went to high school and Jim actually has a house in Cape Coral where I grew up. How about that?
Speaker 7:Yeah, that's awesome. So you know what would you tell people who chose not to come here this weekend if we do it again next year?
Speaker 8:It's just really a fabulous golf course. Both golf courses are fabulous. The first one has, like really fast greens. The second one is really challenging. It's super fun. If you love, you know this is the best time of year to play. It's not too cold, it's not too hot, it's not too humid and not too windy.
Speaker 7:So, chris, did you hear that the weather was actually perfect? And Ted's right, it wasn't hot, it wasn't cold. I mean, the weather was perfect, really, no wind to speak of. It may have been a little bit yesterday, but today it was great. Come on down Next year, don't miss us Next year. Make sure you're here. But, ted, thank you so much for joining us. Congratulations, and what's next for you? What's your next tournament?
Speaker 8:Oh, I don't know. I'm going to take about six weeks off now and try to spend all this money that Harry gave me Go on vacation, right Probably going to Hawaii.
Speaker 9:All right, bud Again. Go on vacation, right Probably going for a while.
Speaker 7:All right, bud. Again congratulations, take care and we'll see you down the road. Thank you, bye, bud, bye. Welcome back to the Vista Room at the Fain Mission Inn Resort. We've got our final champion of the weekend from the D-Flight, dave Kubik. From the Augusta Tour, david, congratulations on the win, bud.
Speaker 5:Thank you, sir. Uh, it was a tight battle on. I was quite a bit, quite a bit behind for when we first teed off, but slowly creeped my way in, didn't make much progress on the front nine on gaining ground, but the back nine couple holes, and then it was just uh, it was just a dog fighting and we just had a blast doing it, though yeah, well, that's, that's good to hear, because again you know so.
Speaker 7:so, uh, you uh beat shep by one stroke. Yes, sir, sir, and after the nine today the lead was the same. So he was ahead by seven, eight, nine. Yeah, seven, eight, nine, ten strokes, something like that, and you closed that gap all the way up.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we both had some good holes on the back, we both had some bad holes. And then, when we got to 18, um, you know you, you do your pre-shot routine. And I thought, well, I know I'm still behind somewhere and you know, all I can do is um, put the best tee shot I can out there. And uh, she played beautiful and then hit a five. I can two-putt from here. I missed four buries today. Oh wow, and I turned around and I told my playing partner. I said you know, this will not go in, it's impossible. I had made a burry all day, but it was nice. I made the two putts and then Shep doubled. So it was an Aunt Jemima flip.
Speaker 7:I had me by the rope. Yeah Well, you know I was talking to another one of the winners Hole 18 to me and I didn't play, but I rode the course. Hole 18 to me seemed to be like one of the toughest courses, toughest holes, because you got to carry the water. You got water all the way down the right side and then the green seemed to be tucked back behind the water. So if you didn't make a par, that's a pretty good hole.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I was really happy with it. So it was the hardest. Today, for some reason, there was a part three where the water is short of it's all water in front of it. I can't remember the hole and the green was so fast I hit a flop shot, put it on the green and it rolls all the way down, rolled back off the water, so I chip it out to the side, put it back up on the green and it rolled all the way back to the water to triple on it and I was like, well, I had fun with it and the holes were beautiful. That was a nice thing. Every hole was so pretty, you couldn't help but stay positive.
Speaker 7:Talk about your round yesterday.
Speaker 5:And which course did you think was harder? The other one or this one? I never really look at a course as like one being harder than another. I always look at it as which one was I better mentally prepared for? Okay, and I was better mentally prepared for today's course because the folks around that have played it and hadn't played it before told me that it's harder. So I was ready to hit different clubs. Okay, I was ready to hit them, but both courses were just a blast to play, yeah.
Speaker 7:Well, that's good to hear. I'm glad you had fun. So you know, today, 48-45 for 93. That's a pretty good score. Yeah, I'm happy with it.
Speaker 5:As long as I don't have to be a triple-digit midget, I'm a happy kink. That's my joke to myself. It's like, hey, 99 is not triple digits, so as long as I can stay out of it, you know, I'd love to.
Speaker 7:Well, you had two good rounds Shot 95 yesterday, 93 today. Yep, that's solid, that's good. Deflate scores, that's old man game, that's all right, we'll take what you can get right.
Speaker 5:I'll take it. I'll take it. I'm in the right flight.
Speaker 7:I get to play with a bunch of great guys so I'll take it so the real what are you going to say to your brother? Because I don't know, I don't know when the last?
Speaker 5:time he's won a regional. Yeah, I do have two younger brothers that play on the tour and, of course, steve's the tour director up in Augusta. So the only thing I'm going to tell both of them is you know, we're still going to the nationals together. Just, you guys haven't qualified yet, and I did. I won one tournament last year and it was the Paulie's Island regional. Okay, oh, wow. So I'm still going to go back and play that, even though I won here. I'm going to go back and play because, defending it, right, right, you know I'm probably going to get my butt handed to me, but I had so much fun it's like this course, it was just so much fun to play. You can't help but play, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I'm going. I know it's going to bother Steve a little bit. You know we had him on the podcast this last episode and he's a I love him, oh, he's loving to death. I mean you have to say it because he's your brother, but I mean he's, oh, he's solid solid.
Speaker 5:Solid, I mean, he'll go out of his way to help anybody. He's such a nice person he's way nicer than I am, but I'm already going to nationals and he's now who he's got to work to cut in. So, steve, yeah, I think you got work to do.
Speaker 7:Sorry, man, get after it, right, you know well. Congratulations, it was good seeing you and we'll see you down the road. Super, thank you, bye, bye, bye. Let's take a break from the show to hear about Strixon's ZX Mark II drivers.
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Speaker 7:All new ZX Mark II drivers only from Srixon. Chris, you know. Again, interviewing the winners was a lot of fun. We've got David Kubik, the D-Flight winner. That's Steve's brother and the Augusta Tour Director and as soon as he got done the interview he called him. He actually has another brother who plays as well, called him and kind of gave him shit because so far he's the only one that's qualified for nationals and he's apparently the oldest of the brothers.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 7:So that was a lot of fun. And another really good story that came out of this the champ flight winner, Dave Rummels. I don't know if that name rings a bell, Dave Rummels.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't.
Speaker 7:He is a former PGA pro. Okay, played in the Masters. Played in Miss.
Speaker 7:Opens Played in PGA Championship. Yeah, I think he said he was 72, 73 years old, hasn't played golf in. I think he said 16 years, 72, 73 years old, hasn't played golf in. I think he said 16 years. Wow, and just got his amateur status back and I told him you know, at some point this year we want to have him on for a more formal interview. Have him on, just you know. Again, for me it's like I want to hear some stories, you know.
Speaker 7:I want to hear what it was like, you know. You know, if we look back to some of the episodes that we've done, you know, one of our most downloaded episodes was the one we did with Gaines Beard last year. Yep, and they're I guess they're probably close in age and I don't know the specifics of Dave and what he played, but it'd be really interesting to see what his experiences are or were in comparing them to Gaines. You know, where Gaines was doing many tours and qualifying each week and were trying to qualify each week, uh, uh, against somebody who uh, you know who qualified for the masters, qualified for the U S open, qualified for the PGA uh championship and those types of things. Uh yeah, I just can't wait to hear some stories.
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:It's it's, it's, it's really uh cool stories to um. It's like one of those, one of those episodes where you can just sit on just chit chat and just exactly what, what he's, what he's saying and what what he's been through. Because I mean, you and me can imagine how it is to go to these events as spectators or patrons, okay, but uh, being able to qualify and play and and be inside the ropes is a whole different thing.
Speaker 7:Whole different thing. Yeah, exactly so. But again, I really, really enjoy interviewing seniors. It was a lot of fun. Uh, michigan again beautiful place. If we go back next year and you're on the senior tour, you don't want to miss it, you really don't. Terry Mark did a great job and I can't wait to do their regional, their Golf Week regional, coming up here on Monday weekend.
Speaker 1:Nice. You know it's going to be fun to start to incorporate them in our podcast, the Senior Tour, because they deserve just as much recognition as the Golf Week, exactly.
Speaker 7:So you're not a senior yet, but let's hear about your. My experience with what hear about your, your, my experience with what? With, with playing golf, man, I mean, I'm not seeing your name on leaderboards and I don't, I don't, I don't even know what's going on with you anymore, you know it's, it's, I don't know it's.
Speaker 1:It's been interesting, an interesting first couple of events. I mean, the first event, I got third place. Next event, I think I got third or fourth, and then it just kind of Hit a brick wall. I'm not hitting any greens In regulation anymore, which is causing me to have to chip and two putt for bogeys. I've seen more bogeys Than I've seen in my life. I want to say the last event was because I was sick and wasn't able to play, but I don't want to use that excuse. You know for far too long. So I don't know. It's been tough, but everyone's been giving me encouragement to keep trying and keep going at it. So what do?
Speaker 7:you say. I want to hear the actual encouragement that Jordan's given you.
Speaker 1:Oh, jordan's asking me to move back down because he wants more money in the pot. A lot of B-fighters want me to move back down, but no, I've committed to this. I don't think I'm going to move down all year. If and it's a big if I decide to, it'll be right before the cutoff so I can at least try and do nationals in beef flight. But again, that's a big if and I don't want to hear from you because I already know what you're going to say. But I don't think I know. I don't want to hear from you because I already know what you're going to say. Um, but uh, I don't think it's going to happen. I think I'm just going to stick it out and, you know, tend to the wounds for the first year and and hopefully spark something in the next couple of weeks before I head to Ohio.
Speaker 7:Dude, it's March.
Speaker 1:I mean, I know and, and, and I've looked at all my scores in the past and um the first three, four months of the year, I tend to struggle um until I can uh, I don't know until the weather gets warmer, until it gets too hot to play golf, right, right, and then nobody wants to play and I'm cool as a cucumber. See, that's awesome.
Speaker 7:Well, again wants to play, and I'm cool as a cucumber. See, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Well again.
Speaker 7:I look at it like this man it's March, you're playing in competing distances that you're not used to. Right it is, and you have to remember your handicap is your handicap and you've got to figure out a way to play your game to get better scores. Right, because just because you're playing back for doesn't mean you swing harder on your driver. Right, it doesn't necessarily mean that you do anything too drastically different, but get better at the, at the piece that you can get better at to get a better score.
Speaker 1:Right, right, and I think that's I'm starting to see that um, and just trying to play smarter around the course. Uh, I, just I got to hit some, some more greens and regulation and give myself a chance for at least a birdie putt or or a par putt. Um, if not, work on the chipping game to get that thing dialed in, uh, to then do get one putts. But, um, it's a work in progress. I am learning a lot about myself and about the game and, um, I, I see myself up there on the top of the leaderboard pretty soon, especially with the events we got. We got lined up for my tour, Some of the some of the better courses I enjoy playing. So, if I can, if I can have a good round and enjoy the time that I'm having.
Speaker 1:I think the score will show, it will I, I, I agree.
Speaker 7:It will. So anyway it you'll get there. And so anyway it you'll get there. And you know, we're not complaining this one, the allergies, or the, or the sandstorms or any of this other stuff, you'll be just fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 7:Plenty, plenty of time left. So yeah, Although we said there's plenty of time left, there's not a whole lot of time left to get your nomination toward rushers, not enough, not a lot of time. To get your nominations in for Player of the Month for the month of March, you have until the 5th of April, that's, I believe, this coming Saturday. Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 1:Saturday is when we're having an event.
Speaker 7:So get them in I think we already have four or five at least and remember how this is going to go. We're going to take all identifying information off, we're going to send it over to our president, dennis McCormick, and he's going to choose. And from there, chris, we'll see if he can come on and announce it live.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hopefully That'd be cool.
Speaker 7:And if not, again, because I mean getting into into it too much, but things they're still running back and forth Right and and and that obviously takes precedent over a lot of other things.
Speaker 1:So Right, right, I mean, it's a, you know, it's life, life happens so Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 7:And then we got the the uh, the, the iron raffle. Make sure you know you can. Venmo me it's at TimNATC and all this will be in show notes and grab a chance to win a set of. Grab a chance to win a set of Srixon irons. Yes, definitely get in there, because chance to win a set of Srixon irons.
Speaker 1:Yes, definitely get in there, because I bet you you waste $10 on a cup of coffee from Starbucks. Why?
Speaker 7:not skip that cup First off, if you're going to Starbucks and spend that much on coffee, call me.
Speaker 1:Starbucks is expensive, man.
Speaker 7:It is, see, maybe it's me, which I doubt, but it could be. I'm okay if it is. But you know, way back when I was growing up, we would go to 7-Eleven, right See, and get coffee, for it was like 80 cents a buck, 80 cents a dollar maybe. And I remember and this was back before coffee was cool, right Before it was cool to drink coffee People would say I can't believe you're going and buying coffee from 7-Eleven.
Speaker 1:I still can't believe you're going and buying coffee from 7-Eleven.
Speaker 7:Oh, dude, you don't even want to know what we were buying from 7-Eleven. You don't even want to know. Okay, so I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying it was me, I wasn't even there, um, but at two or three o'clock in the morning, seven, 11, we should, we shouldn't be at seven, 11, two or three o'clock in the morning. You're, you've made bad life choices. No, you're, you've made bad life choices uh yeah, no see I'm a stripper for coffee.
Speaker 1:If you don't have good coffee, I'll never go back to your establishment again.
Speaker 7:No, is that I mean that? Okay, I think about if it's for breakfast but you, yeah, but you don't have to spend seven dollars for a coffee dude to get a good cup of coffee.
Speaker 1:No, no, you're right, I don't spend $7 for a good. I'm just saying you know, cut a fast food meal out of your week and put it towards a possibility for a new set of clubs.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Not a bad option.
Speaker 7:Exactly I agree with Chris. Did you hear that? Write that down.
Speaker 1:Mark it down.
Speaker 7:Oh boy, Dude, I miss you. Hope you get over this sickness or allergies or whatever soon.
Speaker 1:So do I.
Speaker 7:It's not good.
Speaker 1:It's not, but take it day by day, man.
Speaker 7:Let me ask you a question, okay, and I know you're about to put this on live, so you don't have to worry about it Are you just doing this to get out of housework?
Speaker 1:No, okay, you sure no, no, no Positive.
Speaker 7:Okay, I saw the wake there. Now, seriously, I hope you get over it soon. It's, or whatever it is, allergies. Whatever it is, you get it worked out, because you can't be walking around like this Right, I will.
Speaker 1:It's crazy. I don't remember having this before. Like Right, no, I will. It's crazy, I don't remember having this before, but my wife swears I have, so I know I can get over it. It's just a matter of time, yeah.
Speaker 7:All right, bud. Well, take care of yourself and best to your family. We'll talk to you soon. Yes, sir, be safe.
Speaker 4:Bye buddy.
