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just"},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2326.379,"endTime":2328.119,"body":"a little bit about it?"},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2328.119,"endTime":2328.479,"body":"Viv?"},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2328.899,"endTime":2329.349,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Vivian Krishnan","startTime":2329.349,"endTime":2333.399,"body":"It's about,"},{"speaker":"Vivian Krishnan","startTime":2329.349,"endTime":2333.399,"body":"um, two sisters and, um, an"},{"speaker":"Vivian Krishnan","startTime":2333.399,"endTime":2335.169,"body":"older one and a little one."},{"speaker":"Vivian Krishnan","startTime":2335.589,"endTime":2340.479,"body":"And they're kind of growing apart and"},{"speaker":"Vivian Krishnan","startTime":2335.589,"endTime":2340.479,"body":"learning the struggles of what it's"},{"speaker":"Vivian Krishnan","startTime":2340.509,"endTime":2346.059,"body":"like to kind of have a distance in"},{"speaker":"Vivian 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then."},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2403.029,"endTime":2405.069,"body":"So thank you so much for sharing such."},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2405.329,"endTime":2407.279,"body":"Uh, vulnerable moments with us."},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2407.309,"endTime":2411.869,"body":"Um, I'd really think that it helps"},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2407.309,"endTime":2411.869,"body":"people feel more connected, um,"},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2411.929,"endTime":2415.319,"body":"to their own experiences without"},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2411.929,"endTime":2415.319,"body":"shame when they hear others, people"},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2415.319,"endTime":2416.97,"body":"share so candidly about their own."},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2416.974,"endTime":2419.399,"body":"So thank you so much, Vivian."},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2419.789,"endTime":2420.659,"body":"Hey, thanks for"},{"speaker":"Vivian Krishnan","startTime":2420.659,"endTime":2421.439,"body":"having me."},{"speaker":"Vivian Krishnan","startTime":2421.439,"endTime":2424.019,"body":"I can't wait to see the"},{"speaker":"Vivian Krishnan","startTime":2421.439,"endTime":2424.019,"body":"rest of what you do."},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2427.599,"endTime":2430.119,"body":"Thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2427.599,"endTime":2430.119,"body":"listening to talk about your period."},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2430.449,"endTime":2432.129,"body":"Be sure to subscribe to my podcast."},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2432.129,"endTime":2435.129,"body":"And if you liked what you heard,"},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2432.129,"endTime":2435.129,"body":"please consider leaving a kind review."},{"speaker":"Karen Daubert","startTime":2435.579,"endTime":2438.849,"body":"If there's anyone, you know, who would"},{"speaker":"Karen 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