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β€’ Aaron von black β€’ Season 11 β€’ Episode 107

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Imagine navigating the labyrinth of life with a map drawn from the stars and numbers of the universe. Join me, Aaron Von Black, on a heartfelt odyssey as we reflect on the profound concept of the "knowledge cipher," inspired by the teachings of the Nation of Gods and Earths. As I return from a family gathering in South Carolina, I honor the memory of my late cousin, Ms. Linda Gatewood, whose inspiration fuels this exploration of identity, legacy, and truth through supreme mathematics. Let's embark on this journey together, where every equation holds the potential to unveil the mysteries of existence.

Our conversation today also dives into the emotionally charged landscape of current events, marked by heated debates over reproductive rights and the intricate saga of the Jordan Neely case. I share my initial emotional responses, unraveling the complexities of the case and shedding light on key figures like Judge Maxwell Wiley and prosecutor Dafna Yoran. Through personal anecdotes and critical analysis, we explore the layers of societal perceptions surrounding mental health crises, spotlighting the controversial actions of Daniel Penny during the tragic subway incident. Together, we tackle the intersection of race, justice, and mental health, seeking a deeper understanding of these pressing issues.

Politics and social justice are woven throughout our discussion, with reflections on Mayor Eric Adams' law enforcement challenges and Vice President Kamala Harris's political strategies. From the tensions between policing and community concerns to the diminishing influence of the black church, we investigate the societal and moral implications of these dynamics. We question the effectiveness of political maneuvers, the shifting role of influential figures like Al Sharpton and Oprah, and the accountability of leaders in the public arena. Join me in this thought-provoking episode as we navigate the complex tapestry of justice, leadership, and community, urging reflection and action in these critical times.

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Speaker 1:

Peace, peace and welcome back. Welcome back to Freeman's affairs radio, the freeman's network. I'm your host, vaughn black, aaron vaughn black that is, and we welcome you on this glorious sunrise de December 10th 2024. Today's math, today's math is knowledge cipher. That's what we're dealing with today is knowledge cipher. And let me just say, let me just say family. I want to first apologize before I go any further with the knowledge cipher. I want to first apologize for my absence in the last couple of weeks. It was unexpected, but we'll get into that. We'll get into that and today we start off, as said knowledge cipher.

Speaker 1:

We're exploring the number 10 as a symbolic correlation between the numerical mathematics and life's journey. You know, a lot of times we, we, I come up here, I and I kick the math, and this is the language of the, the nation of guards and nerves, and I'm very inspired by it. It's not for me to get up here and to try to sound super intelligent or some kind of esoteric mumbo jumbo that you don't understand. I try to make this thing as simple as possible and, as I said, I'm very inspired by the thought or the discipline of the supreme mathematics, the supreme alphabet, the lessons of the nation of gods and earth. I'm very inspired by and I've been around these lessons for most of my life. As you know, I have family members that most of my family members were in the nation of gods and herbs, so I was raised around that culture. Salute to Ebony Born Asia.

Speaker 1:

And speaking of that, before I go any further, today's podcast and program is dedicated to Ms Linda Gatewood, who left us some years ago. I believe it was 1985 or 86 when she departed from us due to an illness of breast cancer. And this was my family member, very beautiful soul, beautiful soul, beautiful woman, physically beautiful, I mean, she was just. Even. She was so beautiful the children used to just look at her. You know, I know, as a child I looked at her like, wow, you know she, she was just a beautiful lady and a beautiful soul in person. Her personality, very bright, cheerful personality. So salute to her, born December 8th of 1953 and she, uh, we remembering her today and, uh, as the rest of my family remembered her and saluted her on the Facebook and different things like that. But yeah, so there's this, this. So this morning's podcast, well, today's podcast, I'm getting away from that morning thing, but today's podcast is dedicated to Ms Linda Gatewood Sleep on, cousin, sleep on and rest in power, because you are remembered here and you are loved and you are very missed. So I wanted to get that settled and taken care of and we did that.

Speaker 1:

So life to the numerical system, because the universe that we exist in is governed by mathematics. So we try to be in the mathematical mindset when I leave or look out the window, or leave the house and look up to the skies, or I'm looking out the window as I'm speaking on the microphone, looking out the window, and I'm imagining, okay in my mind, the distance from the earth to the sun and the power of the sun that's pulling the other planets. The distance. These are mathematics and this is the mindset that I have every day when I wake up. I don't wake up and turn on the news and let the dominant society dictate my thoughts. My first thought is the discipline, is the mathematical discipline, what's today's date? The distance from the sun, the planet that we live on, the measurements of my immediate surroundings, the cipher of my cipher, right? Because, as we know, knowledge represents awareness and a cipher can be people, places or things, right? So today we explore that, the symbolism and the paradox. 10 represents knowledge cipher where knowledge is awareness, and cipher as zero holds the duality of everything and nothing all at once, and it's the infinite loop of potential in life. The infinite loop of potential in life, a concept mirrored in our understanding of identity, legacy and truth, and that's what we unpacking today. That's what we're going to unpack, and awareness of the knowledge of people, places and things. You see how that correlates. You see how that correlates. You see how that correlates and we understand the cipher also to be as a zero in value, but also it is the sum of everything, because it is a whole, it's a circle, 360 degrees, it's complete, if you can understand that.

Speaker 1:

Family, yeah, so this is, this is uh, the thoughts that we uh, that I try to have, that has inspired my life so much, till I get up here and I try to convey it to you. Let's get a bed back in here, let's get the bed. Yeah, so this is what it is. Family. And back to my situation where I uh wasn't up here for a couple of weeks and there were some people that were concerned and they were calling and texting and emailing about they thought something happened to the show and to the, you know, to the podcast. And did I stop or discontinue? No, it's just, I I took a short hiatus unexpectedly.

Speaker 1:

Um, my family had, uh, put together an event for the thanksgiving holiday. You understand, um, salute Wendy Smith and everybody who participated. It was a beautiful gathering and, yeah, so that's where I went, to South Carolina. You know, that's where most of my family are at and this is, you know, on both sides of my family and that's where I was at. You know, it was a family gathering for the thanksgiving holiday and I went and I enjoyed it, even though I was away from you and away from the microphone. I I enjoyed it and, uh, that that's all. It was just a short hiatus. I'm not, you know, uh, under any kind of bad weather, anything like that. It's just that sometimes you just gotta, just gotta unwind and reset, and that that was perfect. So now we back and we back to work here.

Speaker 1:

But speaking about that family, about the, about the holiday thing, um, you know, I was a couple about a month ago I was talking to a friend of mine, israel, a Hebrew-Israelite fellow, good friend of mine and great guy, great guy, and we got. He always steers the conversation into the Bible and different things and the religious aspect of his, his faith, and uh, we disagree upon people's uh participating in, in, in these holidays, because there's a backstory to most of these holidays and we got in, we get into that and you know they're very, very uh dog dogmatic about that, about, uh, black people participating in these, in these uh, these uh celebrations or these holidays that that are that were, um, contrived but contrived by the dominant society, right, but I try to be logical about things and you have to understand, during these times in this society that we live in, during these times, most jobs are shut down. You know, you have some 24-hour operations in some businesses and industries that go no matter what, but a lot of workplaces are shut down. People on vacation, the children out of school, kids at home from college, doing recess for these holidays, some of them and we just take advantage of that and we, we, we, we um go around the family and enjoy them. I don't think most of us, we because I'm speaking for myself and I think I speak for a lot of other people we really don't care about the actual backstory behind Thanksgiving or Christmas or Easter or any of these things like that. These things mean really nothing to us as far as the cheer of it. You're not going to see, you're not going to really catch us going to the Thanksgiving Day paradeacy's Parade and being out there with all those people. You know, I just don't see that us doing that.

Speaker 1:

Like I said, most of the time the people are out of work, those kids are out of school and it's a time for family to get together and that's that people usually take advantage of that. You got people coming in from out of town. That's that people take usually take advantage of that. You got people coming in from out of town. And just because it's a, it's a backstory to these holidays, does it mean I shouldn't go around my family or I shouldn't go break bread with them and enjoy their company? Let's think about that. Is that practical? Well, they say well, why we got to do it on those particular days, why you can't do it all? Because this society we live in is not designed or set up that way.

Speaker 1:

Now we do have some holidays that that we from our culture, as far as like, uh, the juneteenth, which there's some people have a problem with Juneteenth also, and understandably so. But these are things that, again, if you really pay attention on the Juneteenth is getting bigger and bigger. It's always been around for the longest, but now it's becoming more and more popular and people are participating in it, more to the point where I think it's going to for us and our culture. I think it's going to overtake the 4th of July, and that's fine. Then we got the upcoming Rata Sase holiday on the 24th of December and we're working to get that into the culture. You know, the brother just put this forward and we're trying to gain momentum and get this into our culture, the celebration of Arata Sase, because during that time these were where a lot of the captives on those plantations would make their escape during or around the Christmas holiday. So I think that's something to celebrate, that's something that is something very significant in our culture that we should, uh, pay attention to and pay homage to. So, yeah, we it's a work in progress, but but at the, at the meanwhile there's I don't see anything wrong with people going and enjoying their, their family.

Speaker 1:

Whether you're christian, muslim, uh, hebrew, buddhist, whatever you, your discipline is or your faith, I don't see anything wrong because I'm not a Muslim, but I will go to a, to a Muslim celebration or festival. They have the Eid after Ramadan. I participate in that. I used to be a practicing Muslim. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, you know, you're just going to enjoy the celebration of that particular movement or that faith and you just enjoying the people that you come there with, or you know, I don't have a problem with none of that. Do I subscribe to their particular faith or belief? No, but I will go to a hebrew israelite celebration. I'm not a hebrew, hebrew Israelite. I don't subscribe to their, to their tenants, but I will go and enjoy if they have a celebration. Like I said, I have a good friend of mine as he's a Hebrew Israelite. If he invited me to a celebration, I would go and participate and enjoy him and enjoy his people.

Speaker 1:

So we have to stop being so silly about all of this stuff and we know the backstory behind these things. Now, if you see me running around here with on saint patrick's day, and I'm running around here dressed up like a, like a leprechaun or something, on christmas time I'm dressed up like one of santa elves or something like that. Now you, you got reason to look at me like what's wrong with this cat, are you. Are you some kind of fool? Yes, I would be in that instant. But as far as is just breaking bread and having a good time and enjoying your people, there's nothing wrong with that family, and we were. We know from the, from the uh the results of the general election.

Speaker 1:

You had people like Joy Reid from MSNBC. She was advocating for people who were Harris supporters to not participate in Thanksgiving dinners with family members who voted may have voted for Trump or may have not voted for her right. This is what Joy Reid was was uh advocating and and uh spewing out to people to not be around their families, and I thought that was it was uh disingenuous. I thought it was foolishness and I would advise anybody not to do that. Go and enjoy your family whenever you can, because, just like in my family, we had this past Thanksgiving celebration or get together or whatever like that. You don't know if you're going to see these people again or some of us may not make it to the next time or to the next gathering. So go and enjoy your family, break bread and I got to tell you, during the festivities, we did get into some political discussions, as most families would. During these dinner table discussions.

Speaker 1:

I've seen some of me and my own female cousins uh, shout out, nut nut dolores, beautiful dolores, right down california. That's my cousin. We had a discussion and she really surprised me of her um awareness of of the political strife and that's going on in the country now. She really you know her, and my other cousin, uh, pat, she, you know, at one point they were just, she was just like let's, let's drop it, let's just change the discussion, because they were very emotional about it and which is understandable because there are a lot of females that felt or they feel that they feel, very strongly about this past election, the whole thing with the reproductive rights thing and stuff like that. They're very strong about it and they were very upset and I have to respect that, you must respect that.

Speaker 1:

I don't understand, I really don't understand why. Um, what I will say is this because I try to look at things from a logical standpoint, not saying I missed the spark or nothing like that, but we try to remove ourselves from from a lot of the emotions of things and most of our people, from my experiences with it, most of most of our people don't want to do that once they are locked in and honing on somebody believe in something they don't. Even if you bring them a factual textbook, 400 pages of facts, they don't want to hear it. They still have a hard time accepting it. They will skip right over the facts of the matter and it's always this yeah, but yeah, I understand that. But you understand that they don't want to deal with the. Okay, let's talk about this, this statistic right here, or this, this, this nut. Because, as I always say, as I always say, um, men lie, women will lie sometime, the children will lie, but the numbers don't lie. Back to those mathematics, right, it's not a lie. You can conclude some factual analysis from numbers and percentages, right, but most people don't want to deal with that Because I believe my thought is this I've been this way for so long.

Speaker 1:

Ain't nobody going to change me? And we got to get out of that, because that's nothing but more buddy, buddy motions. And we, you know we are very emotional creatures, not just saying black people, but all people. But I'm dealing with the experiences I have with my people Very emotional, very emotional, detached from a lot of times, detached from the reality of things, and this is where we have a problem. Hopefully that changes.

Speaker 1:

We're working to change that and I think the way we change that is we have to, in some cases, deal with a strong hand of a hard hand, stern, uncompromising hand. Sometimes we have to deal with it in a very subtle and gentle way and it depends on the personality of the people you are addressing. It depends on the personality Some people. You can. You can be stern with some people. You have to treat them with kitten mittens on, so to speak. Right? So let's keep that in mind. Family, let's keep that in mind.

Speaker 1:

And what do we got here? What do we got here learned for today's program? What do we got here? We need to start yet. Ok, we went over that knowledge cipher, we went through that and we talked about a little bit about the dinner table talks or the politics. We talked a little bit about the dinner table talks or the politics, and now we want to turn our attention to the Jordan Neely murder in the trial of Daniel Penny. Right, we want to turn to that Now.

Speaker 1:

As of Friday, because I don't think I covered anything. I know they deliberated yesterday, which was Monday. They deliberated on the 9th because, as of Friday, the manslaughter charges were dismissed, the manslaughter that was the top charge, the manslaughter charges, and those were dismissed because the jury uh, I think, on a couple attempts trying to be deliberated on a couple attempts they tried to come to a conclusion in the deliberation and they came up deadlocked. So the courts took it upon themselves to, uh, the court ruled a dismissal for that top charge of manslaughter. I think it manslaughter, manslaughter too. Now the judge, uh, what is this judge's name? What's his name? Maxwell, uh, what is his name? Maxwell wiley is his name. This is the judge who's presiding, presiding over the case Right now.

Speaker 1:

And the prosecutor is this when I say family, when I say she is a liberal, a liberal nut, I researched and I looked at video on her. Her name is Dfna yoran. Dafna yoran. She is the lead prosecutor on this case. She's that's over this case. Um, she is assistant district attorney in in the borough of manhattan, where this case is. When I family, I looked at video or I researched to the woman is you very liberal, very liberal? To, to it's, it's, she's so liberal, it's insane almost. And this is why I believe that the Democrats lost the election.

Speaker 1:

Now, with this case family, and when it first happened, I was very caught up in my emotions. I even did podcasts talking about the case and I was angry because this white boy killed this brother. You know he was on the train. He was shouting out he was hungry, he was panhandling for money and I was very upset. He was shouting out, he was hungry, he's panhandling for money and I was very upset. I was very upset.

Speaker 1:

But again, going back to the research and digging in deeper into the case, you start understanding things a little better. Now, before I say anything else that will upset you or anybody that's listening or who may hear this on the replay, let me say this. Let me say this family, jordan Neely, did not deserve to meet his demise in the fashion that that he did. He was a child of the state in his young years. His mother was murdered in front of him. From what I understand from doing the research, he was very young and that forced him to be in foster care most of his life and you know orphanages and different foster situations and you know what comes with that family. You know what comes with that we. We know the history of these things. A little alcohol wipe down here and he was a child of the state and the state failed him miserably. The state failed him and he was on the train panhandling. He was hungry and he was having an episode.

Speaker 1:

Um, like a lot of times you you see these people, especially here in new york city, on the subway, walking down the street. Some of them are talking to themselves or talking to to kazoo. You remember kazoo? Right from the flintstones, the little green fella that only fred and barney could see. But yeah, so you'll see a lot of that in society here in New York City, especially talking about my experience, right, so he got on the train. He was having an episode. He probably was not on his meds, because a lot of times these folks be on meds and if they're having an off day, usually they're not taking the meds.

Speaker 1:

I remember years ago I was working for a beverage company and me and my partner was doing a delivery down on Montague Street downtown Brooklyn. We was delivering to a Duane Reade. We was there getting ready to unload the truck and deliver these beverages to Duane Reade. There was this guy. I tell you this dude was huge. He had to be about 6'5", 6'6", big, solid, fella man, just big.

Speaker 1:

This dude was having an episode. He was carrying on right in front of the place where he was going to deliver at. Let me tell you, family, he was carrying on so much that that whole part of the sidewalk was all his. People would move from the sidewalk to the street to avoid him. That's how much he was carrying on. So when me and my partner we pull up and we jump down off the truck there, we used to keep chains. There was a these thick chains we used to keep to to to secure the equipment that we would use, whether it was hand trucks or whatever the case might be. And I grabbed my chain, I told my partner, I said look, man, we got to deliver in here and we might have to deal with this guy. I don't know what he's going to do when I say he was yelling man. He had one of those deep baritone voices that echoed and he was just going off.

Speaker 1:

And so we started loading up the product to take in the store and fortunately the cops showed up. Somebody must have called 911 and the police showed up. The law enforcement showed up and they were able to talk to him because they seen he was a huge guy. They wasn't going to have an easy time handling him, but they were able to talk to him to calm him down, to at least get to why he was upset, come to find out he was a guy, he was on some type of disability so and apparently his family members had stole his money they took his checks and cashed them, had stole his money, they took his checks and cashed them and stole his money and he was just having a meltdown and this is why he was going off and they were able to calm him down and then a few people started giving him money I think the cop might have gave him a dollar or two or whatever and he started calming down a little bit and he calmed down enough to where people could, you know, be a little relaxed, but he had, he had the sidewalk shook, he had people shook.

Speaker 1:

So I went into that story to say I understand, um, looking into the to the daniel penny trial, I understand, even though I wasn't there, I kind of understand what was happening and what was the, the mindset of some of the people that might have been on that j train that this incident happened on. And again I will say that he should, he didn't deserve to meet his demise in this, this fashion, but look at it, to his into uh uh, jordan Neely's history. He had a very tumultuous history. He was arrested. Scott was arrested 42 times. Four of the incidents were revolved around violent behavior that he actually attacked people.

Speaker 1:

Now, on this incident on the j train that day, he didn't, he hadn't touched anyone. They say he got on somebody. The testimony was he got on the train and took off his jacket and threw it at some people, whatever, but he hadn't physically harmed anyone. Maybe that's what you can call physical harm, but there was a threat there. So, uh, you know, uh, you just uh, wait a minute, let me.

Speaker 1:

Let me go back into it because, um, there was reports that he had been arrested for kidnapping and different charges like that, and that just was not true. It was not true. Um, jordan nilly was a was not arrested for kidnapping. His criminal record included 42 prior arrests involving petty larceny, theft, jumping subway turnstiles and several and several assaults, including a high profile incident where he attacked a 67 year old woman. And Neely's life was marked by significant struggles, including trauma of his mother's murder and subsequent mental health issues which led to periods of homelessness and resistance to treatment efforts and resistance to treatment efforts. So, yeah, he. He had punched this woman, a 67 year old woman, in her face, broke her nose and dislocated her her eye socket, and I think he did a little time for that. But other than that, this guy has been arrested 42 times.

Speaker 1:

Right, and he was on a list of top 50 lists maintained by authorities identifying individuals considered potentially dangerous due to violent behavior or mental health issues. Right, and in 2021, uh, nearly assaulted a 67 year old woman, breaking her nose and fracturing her eye socket. So he had a history of violence. Again. Again, I'm gonna say this he should not have met his demise. Now, daniel Penny, this good Samaritan, as they're calling him, and they're trying to even get him to get some kind of heroes award, which I don't agree. I strongly disagree with that, because there's no winners in this. There is no winners in this. He took it upon himself to to subdue this perceived threat.

Speaker 1:

Right, I wasn't there. I can't say I know I've gotten on a train and people have been acting up and not you know. I remember once I was riding a six train going uptown to the Bronx and, uh, this was late one night. I was staying in the Bronx at the time and this guy there was a young lady sitting across from me and this guy got on the train. He was, he was acting up, talking loud and cutting up and the girl was so scared she was afraid and I told her miss, I don't know how long you're gonna be on this train. I told her stop, I'm getting off. I said, but while I'm here with you, you got nothing to worry about. He's acting crazy, he's not. He's not as crazy as he's acting. And I said it loud enough for the guy to hear it and he realized there was a possible threat to him and he walked to the next car and started harassing people in the next car and I don't know if he ended up getting beat up that night or not. I don't know, but this is the incident. So I understand these things Right, but these people, it's not warranted that he should have been killed.

Speaker 1:

Now, daniel Penny was a military trained officer out there. I believe is in the Marines or something, one of those armed forces. But he was trained Right and I believe it was his instructor that testified. They called his military trainer and trained him to testify and the man said himself that it was unnecessary for him to put to apply the pressure that he did, because once you put somebody in a yoke like that, in that chokehold yoke, and you're cutting off oxygen and circulation to to the brain so you we used to call it you put putting them in sleep and once a person is, you would think that you would let up and ease up off of the pressure. And that's not what the video showed. You could see Daniel Penny grimacing and just you know you could tell he was choking. Maybe he was scared for his, his, you know, because the guy was saying, when I get up I'm gonna get y'all, or whatever. So he was holding on for dear life. I don't know this. I do know that once there was no more resistance, maybe he's unconscious and let him go. There was people on the train saying that you're gonna kill him, let him go. So this is why I think the judge uh ordered them, even though they dismissed the top charge. I believe the judge said no because there's uh this reckless, uh. You acted reckless, recklessly. So keep deliberating on on the lesser charge. Now, the lesser charge is it don't hold nothing, but I think a couple years, maybe four years, and if he's sentenced he might get probation or and at the at the worst case scenario for him would be he would be released in the with good time and stuff like that, or work, work, release or whatever in in two years or so.

Speaker 1:

He's a student, from what I understand, but yeah, family this thing is. It was very disturbing and there was a component of Black Lives Matter coming out there trying to make it a racial thing. I don't think at first I did. I don't think this this is has a racial component to it other than the fact that Daniel Penny is white and Jordan Neely was black. I don't think there's an overtone.

Speaker 1:

Some people are saying I heard Tyreek on his broadcast in some of his spaces that he was saying that he was, he was. In other words, he was saying that if this was the other way around, you know, would it be this and would it be that. And I understand that and that's how I felt at first. But as I dug deeper into this thing, I am. I'm not calling Daniel Penny a hero, a vigilant. You know I'm not with that vigilante stuff. You know, if there's someone that needs help, you help them. If there's someone that needs help, you help them If you can. If you are able to, you help them, especially women and children or elderly, if you can. So I'm not on that thing where I'm calling him a vigilante.

Speaker 1:

I am very saddened and disturbed by the failure of the system to protect society. Even Mayor Adams talked about that there is a failure in the mental health industry. There's a failure. There's a big-time failure and this is why you have these people on the street yelling and talking to themselves and don't let there be a competency of drugs, drug use or drug abuse involved in with these, with these people with mental health issues. It makes it even worse. So, yeah, there's no winners in this, there's no heroes in this. Ok, let's see, let's see. I'm going to see. Can I bring up? You had some of them, black Lives Matter people out here instigating, trying to. Let me see, can I find it Hold?

Speaker 3:

on Of the courthouse right now we do have family members speaking from the Neely family. Let's listen in on live now.

Speaker 7:

There was no way you could put nine white people in a room that would find Daniel Penny guilty. They picked a white supremacist jury specialist to target the racist in that jury. The prosecution pointed out the fact that defense was eliminating people based on race. Let me take it back because I don't want to scare y'all. Logically thinking, if you pick a white supremacist jury specialist and you pack the jury with white people, obviously you think race has a significant role in this case and obviously you were looking for that one white supremacist holdout. That one holdout might have been more, but there was definitely one person in there that said I'm not going to convict this white kid for killing that poor little, mentally ill Negro piece of trash. Forgive my language, but I'm proving a point. This is how they think.

Speaker 7:

The defendant himself called Jordan a dirty crackhead and the police let him go go. The police found inconsistencies in his story and allowed Daniel Penny to walk free. When does that happen for black people? Am I not making my point clear enough? Racism has its tentacles all over this case. Racism has its evil tentacles all over this case. Racism has its evil tentacles all over its case and all around the minds of white america. Are all white people bad? No, the prosecution did a phenomenal job. The judge is trying his hardest to bring justice to giordely's name, but Let me just speak on what he just said.

Speaker 1:

See, you can't have it both ways. You're saying the prosecution did a phenomenal job. This, what's her name, daphna Urant did a phenomenal job and the judge is doing his best, but you're saying that this case has the tentacles of white dominance over it. Right, you can't have it both ways, bro. I believe this is Jordan's father, jordan Neely's father, I believe it is. I'm not sure who this guy is, but let us continue.

Speaker 7:

Racism is still alive and kicking in America. There's no other way to view this and kicking in America. There's no other way to view this. Everyone has looked at the case and those among you who say that Daniel Penny is innocent have racism and bias in your heart. If you look at the facts of this case, then you understand that Daniel Penny is guilty. But today white supremacy got another victory. Today the KKK, the Klansmen, the evil in America got another victory. They got that top charge dismissed. America shall continue to America and shall continue to pace second class status on black people and black people. Don't get your hopes up. I'm going to spare you the shock. Even if convicted of the top charge, he wasn't getting more than four years. We don't get justice in these buildings. They might throw us a crumb here and there, but we don't get justice in these buildings. They might throw us a crumb here and there, but we don't get justice in these buildings. And I dare you to show me a study or some case law to prove that, to disprove that.

Speaker 3:

Siobhan Newsome.

Speaker 1:

Now listen to this chick. Listen to this chick.

Speaker 3:

N-E-W-S-O-M-E. I'm the co-founder of Black Lives Matter Greater New York. I stand here heartbroken because I have to hug a father who knows that the murderer of his son will most likely go free, who has to look in the face of a jury that, no matter the facts, no matter the expert witnesses, no matter the people yelling on that train that day to let Jordan go, you will kill him. They will not find a white man guilty of killing a black man. In modern day America. This is no different than Jim Crow. This looks like a picture out of the picture book when you look at that anonymous jury. We have baby boomers who were there doing Jim Crow on this jury. We have young people who are looking at Daniel Penny as a hero.

Speaker 3:

And what America is? A hero? A killer? He didn't give a crap about Jordan. The medical examiner said Jordan turned purple. Yes, black people can turn purple when they're denied oxygen. Every lab report showed he died of asphyxiation. And that doesn't matter because they want to spare a white man the penalty of his crimes. America has not changed and, I hate to say it. It may never change. And people who keep asking are we going to riot? Are we going to protest. Is that what's needed? Do glass have to break? Do cars have to burn for a black man to get justice in America? We can't show up with peace, we can't show up with facts, we can't show up with evidence and witness.

Speaker 1:

Now see, I disagree with that. What she's doing is dog whistling. I'm calling it, I'm calling it family. You can get mad with me if you want. She dog whistling, and I don't think that's right In this case, here. I don't think it's, it's call for. But let us continue listening and we'll talk about it, come on.

Speaker 3:

That's a witness. You give us nothing and then you ask us to love this country. America hates black people and we see it from that jury pool.

Speaker 7:

A black man was lynched and his name was Jordan Neely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you heard that. You heard that, like I said, that was some dog whistling by that young lady I don't know who she is. She said her name and spelled it out, or whatever. Black Lives Matter. I don't rock with them anyway. I never have. I don't support them. They've turned out to be hogwash. That whole Black Lives Matter movement was cap. All of it was cap, and the shysty individuals that were behind it, um, yeah, family. So no, I'm not falling into none of that. I'm not, I'm not and I'll. You know, I'll get up here and I'm the first to call out something.

Speaker 1:

Like I said before, I did my due diligence. I was very highly upset about this, this case. I even did podcasts here, I did it, reports on it up here on the podcast, and it wasn't until I took a real deep dive as the case went to trial and the trial started and I started digging deeper into both backgrounds of Daniel Penny and Jordan Neely and the testimonies of the people that were eyewitness to this thing. And then you start, things start unfolding, you start having a better understanding of what took place and I can't still with that. I can't say for sure because I was not there. I wasn't there. With that I can't say for sure because I was not there. I wasn't there. This is why I gave you the backstories to some of my uh experiences on the train and out in public with, with people, of mental health and, um, you know, maybe we can hold on.

Speaker 1:

Let me see see if, eric, there was something that Eric Adams had said in regard to this. Hold on, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. I wanted to get something that Eric Adams had said. Hold on, let me see. Can I find it? Eric Adams? Yeah, because he had made a statement about this thing. Here it is, let me see. Hold on, give me a second family.

Speaker 5:

I know you've focused a lot on his mental health challenges and some of the services, but it was ultimately a chokehold that killed him a chokehold from another strap hanger. Do you think Daniel Penny, who I know you didn't mention in yesterday's speech you didn't mention how he died or whose hands he died as the cause of? Do you think that that was an appropriate reaction from a fellow straphanger to someone who didn't seem to have a weapon, to someone who's experiencing a mental health crisis on a subway car?

Speaker 8:

You know, I think it's important not to interfere as the mayor of the city in those parts that the police department has yet to take their action. The police respond to me. The police department has yet to take their action. The police respond to me and I don't want, if this case goes to trial or anywhere further, I don't want someone to talk about changing venues, that the police, the mayor, are tainted when the police falls under one of his agencies. I dealt with the things that are within my span of control, that I've been advocating for from the day one that I got in office, and the DA will make the determination on how to handle this case and I respect that. I respect DA Bragg's, his job and what he has to do. I need to prevent and let's be clear, let's be honest, there are more Jordans out there. I said this over and over again. I see them, I talk to them, I interact with them, and so we need to make sure we prevent these things from happening. That is within my span of control, mr Mayor.

Speaker 1:

All right, you heard that. Let's see, I just pulled up something, and this is about Black Lives Matter threatening Mayor Adams Hold on.

Speaker 2:

Has promised to be tough on crime when he takes office, in part by bringing back some controversial police tactics, but after a recent meeting with Adams, black Lives Matter activists threatened riots and bloodshed if he follows through. Fox 5's Kayla Malek is live in downtown Brooklyn with more details. It's pretty incredible to hear a group saying those two words to the incoming mayor.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, absolutely Bianca. It's rattled a whole lot of people Now. Keep in mind. This meeting also marks the first time Black Lives Matter of Greater New York leaders has ever sat down with an incoming or sitting mayor, eric Adams, seemingly agreeing with the activists' ideas on how to combat poverty in the black community. But things got heated when the conversation turned to police reform.

Speaker 7:

If they think that they're going to go back to the old ways of policing, that we're going to take to the streets again. There will be riots, there will be fire and there will be bloodshed.

Speaker 6:

Leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement threatening violence on New York City streets if mayor-elect Eric Adams reinstates the NYPD's controversial anti-crime unit when he takes office next year.

Speaker 7:

So there's no way that we're going to let some Gestapo come in here and harm our people, right?

Speaker 1:

Let me tell you something, family. Now, this clip was from three years ago, when Mayor Eric Adams was first taking office and they were throwing threats at him back then. And you got to see these people, right, you got to see these people who are on these bullhorns talking. Ain't none of you, none of them, got no credibility in them and ain't none of them ever did a day? You never did a day. So start with all the tough talk your dog whistling with this case, with daniel penny, your dog whistling trying to get people excited on it, on emotion, on some kind of emotional sugar charge and have people out there getting in trouble and jeopardizing their freedom and lives for something that is not called for, really, that I don't see as called for. You got these people maybe 10 of them marching and with bullhorns and you really got no traction behind it, because people are not stupid.

Speaker 1:

The streets know, we know family, we know the streets know and we not. This is why you don't see a whole bunch now, when it's time to turn up and and get with it, you see the streets come out because they know and they recognize, but there ain't nobody getting behind this with these folks, with this Black Lives Matter, black Lives Matter, black Lives Matter. Man, get out of here, go somewhere, take a hike man, go fly a kite or something. Go in the park, man, and throw a Frisbee or something. Get out of here. But yeah, family, yeah, yeah, we running short on time, but I'm not worried about time because I've been away from you for a couple of weeks and we here, we talking, we kicking it, right, we kicking it.

Speaker 1:

And that's what we going to do One more story I want to get into. Well, two more. And this is their family, they starting to get on the Jigga man heels, which I don't believe. I actually don't believe. None of it. Jay-z has been mentioned in some kind of action with a rape thing with P Diddy or whatever. With a rape thing with P Diddy or whatever. And let me see Can I pull a story up. Let me see Can I pull that story up. It was a. I don't want the CNN story, I wanted the Fox story. But OK, we'll go with the CNN for now. We'll go with it. We'll go with that with the CNN, for now We'll go with it. We'll go with that. That corny story from them, Hold on.

Speaker 9:

This morning. Rap mogul Jay-Z is denying allegations he sexually assaulted a 13-year-old girl alongside rapper Colmes. That civil lawsuit, filed against Colmes in October, was amended Sunday to include Jay-Z in October was amended Sunday to include Jay-Z. The accuser identified only as Jane Doe says she was sexually assaulted by both men at a Video Music Awards afterparty in 2000. In a blistering statement, jay-z accuses Jane Doe's attorney of trying to blackmail him. He said further quote these allegations are so heinous in nature that I implore you to file a criminal complaint, not a civil one. Whomever would commit such a crime against a minor should be locked away. Would you not agree? He added my only heartbreak is for my family. My wife and I will have to sit our children down, one of whom is at the age where her friends will see the press and ask questions about the nature of these claims and explain the cruelty and greed of people Joining us now Joey Jackson, senior legal analyst and criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor.

Speaker 9:

There's a lot to unpack here, joey. I want to start with just the statement from Jay-Z, which is so forceful in its denial. I just read a teeny part of it. It's long where he says that they should file a criminal complaint. Is that even possible at this point?

Speaker 4:

So, based on the allegations Jessica, good morning, good to see you. I think that it could. It certainly could be. Why do I say that? Now? He, of course, is more than annoyed would be an understatement. He has a family and he has a lot to protect, including his brand. But to the extent that he's saying, hey, come after me. Criminally, that could be likely. Why do I say that?

Speaker 4:

Because rape in New York and what's alleged in this complaint is forcible compulsion. What that means in English is that it's saying that he held her down, raped her, and that, of course, the allegation is that Mr Combs did the same thing. And so, if those facts are actually accurate, it would require an investigation by prosecutors and if true, right, you could pursue it criminally. Now, with respect to evidentiary value, yes, it happened 24 years ago, right, more than 24 years ago. But in the allegations there's a few things. Number one, this allegation that another celebrity was present at the time, right, in addition to other people. Number two, there's the claim by the victim, right, that she left, that she went and she was seen by a gas attendant who saw her in distress. Number three, that she phone called her dad, who showed up the 13-year-old and now removed her. So civil complaint simply allegations needs to be proven in a court of law. But if true, it could rise to the level of criminality and you know, we'll see what happens off. The DA looks and investigates.

Speaker 9:

So what happens now?

Speaker 4:

So what happens now is is this is simply a civil complaint and in a civil complaint it goes through the technical legal process. Now the distinction, jessica, between civil and criminal, of course, is that civil is for monetary damages, right, the system can only reward you with money. There's allegations that this 13-year-old is suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, suffered depression, et cetera. So now you go to fact-finding. Right Before that, just briefly, there was a demand letter sent, and a demand letter is a letter being sent by a lawyer saying hey, I don't have to sue you, we can sit, we can mediate it. If we reach an agreement.

Speaker 4:

It never sees the light of day Jay-Z saying I don't care about your demand letter, I look at it as blackmail. You want to sue me? Sue me. You want to look at it criminally? Look at it criminally, but it will go through the fact-finding process. If a trial is to determine the facts, that's what will happen, but it will be deemed civil. No indication at this point as to whether or not any criminal investigation will ensue as a result of this.

Speaker 9:

Yeah, and Jay-Z came back incredibly forcefully against these allegations and really singled out that attorney as well for being I'm paraphrasing here but greedy, saying he's out to get money and calling that letter essentially blackmail.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and in addition to that, jessica also suing the attorney, saying he's intimidating him, harassing him, et cetera. Now, demand letters are not new. What lawyers do is they send them out as a matter of protocol and practice so that you can expedite the process. At the same time, there's certain ethical standards that you have to use and you have to have a good faith, factual belief, that this is true. Now you can argue this complaint was filed in October. Right Could have mentioned Jay-Z then. You didn't why it was amended now to include him. Are the factual assertions true? Are they fact or fiction? Is it a money grab or not? All of that will be litigated in a court of law. But according to Jay-Z, this never happened, is pure fiction. It is a money grab and he's fighting for his name, reputation and certainly innocence and justice in his view, which is he didn't have anything to do with it.

Speaker 9:

Yeah, and you touch on a point, too, that I wanted to ask you about, which was that this was an amended. This was an amendment to this already existing lawsuit. What are people to take away from that the fact that they're coming back and adding to this now with this specific name?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you know, jessica, so it depends. That's also common. You could amend lawsuits, right as a matter of course and you do to include certain factual allegations. The interesting thing to me in terms of your question and the takeaway if you had this information about Jay-Z it happened allegedly in September of 2000,. Why not include it in the original complaint? Now, that necessitated you putting in, and it's a question of credibility. Was he celebrity? A right, as was noted in the October complaint? Is this pure fiction? And what's interesting in the complaint? Is he really that is? The lawyer tries to tie Jay-Z to Mr Combs in so many ways. Right Birds of a feather is the argument that he's making. You can make that argument. You need the facts to sustain it. Let's see if they come up with any facts.

Speaker 9:

All right, we will see. All right, George Jackson. Thanks so much the industrial grade products you need, Granger.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you heard that family. I was using the iPad for that report. Let me say this. Let me say this I don't me personally, and I'm not. I used to be a whole fan, you know, before he got all Hollywood and with the dreadlocks and looking like a I don't know what that dude looked like walking around now and he's walking around with these pink looking suits on and all of this Hollywood glitzy stuff when he was whole for the, you know, coming from the streets and stuff like that. That's when I was a fan of his music.

Speaker 1:

Let me say this even with Puffy, but especially with Hov, I don't really believe Hov took part in something like that. He was that stupid part in something like that he was. He was that stupid, uh, combs, maybe because he he got so intoxicated with with the life that, um, you know he was turned out. From what I understand, he had clive davis and him digging in his back and teaching him all of this, this sexually, um, diverse stuff. But when it comes to hope, I'm not really feeling that and I understand the sentiment of some people. They're celebrating this, get all these niggas, and that's because people are on some low key, hating type of stuff. These guys are millionaires, they're powerful, and people who are not on some down low-key hating type of stuff. These guys are millionaires, they're powerful, and people who are not of that ilk have a problem with them. And it shows. And it shows. Now, am I a fan of any of these guys? No, I'm not. I'm not with all of the Hollywood. I'm not. I'm not with all of the Hollywood. I'm not a groupie. I don't hang on to people because they're successful or whatever like that. I don't jock ride people and all that stuff. I'm just not into the. I'm not a fan club person, right?

Speaker 1:

That said, if these guys done these things, then they are going to have to hold the burdens of what they've done. They're going to have to do that because, as he said, he's got a family, he's got a wife and all this stuff. These people have children and usually the children bear the burden of the sins and past transgressions of their fathers. That's usually what happens. So, that said, it sounds bogus to me. They keep talking about they're amending these charges with Puff and these guys they're amending the charges Let me get a bed, and they're just piling on, piling on, and it seems very weird to me. It seems it stinks of fish, of stale, rotten fish. You understand that needs to be thrown out Because these things are all over the place. But let me say this family, this is going to tie into the next segment and we're gonna we're gonna run out of here.

Speaker 1:

Let this be a lesson to all of you who climb in the corporate ladders of success in corporate america and different industries and you bootlicking and you shilling in political arenas and business and corporate business. Let this be a lesson to you. These guys were the toast of the town. These guys Jay-Z, diddy, sean Combs, all these guys these guys were the toast of New York City. They were at all the big events, all the big parties and everything. These guys were just, they had, they had the run of the run of the city. And now look what they're doing. Because, remember, jay-z made some comments at the what was that? At the music awards there, the Grammys about Beyonce Not getting an album of the year and all of this stuff. He made those comments. They don't like that.

Speaker 1:

Diddy's problems started happening when he went after that liquor company. That's when his trouble started. So that's telling you. That's telling you when your money don't come from the soil and your support. When the people of the soil are not behind you, this is what can happen. You don't have our protection.

Speaker 1:

Let this be a lesson to all of you In the political world. Who will jump in and lick the, lick the dog crap off of the boots in the heels of white society? Who who always grinning when ain't nothing funny showing their teeth? Who are we scratching when they don't itch? Let this be a lesson to you.

Speaker 1:

And we're going to tie this right back into old Revan Porkchop, himself Old Hogjaw. Well, he used to be Hogjaw. He looked like a bobblehead thing at Yankee Day, bat Day or something like that. He look like a bobblehead now. But old Revan, al Sharpton, they on his heels, they on his heels, they on his heels, all these, they're going after all these cats, man. So us on the soil, us black folks on the soil, and the grassroots, this is our time now. This is our time to rise up and lead our people to where they need to go and get rid of all of this falseness and all of this superficial foolishness. This is our time. Let's go to it, hold on, let's go to it, hold on. Let me find. Let me find that clip with uh, what's his name? Phil Scott there. Hold on.

Speaker 10:

Ladies and gentlemen, more and more fallout is happening about how the Vice President Kamala Harris campaign spent that billion dollars and the latest person who got a bag off of Vice President Kamala Harris is Al Sharpton. Oh, Al Sharpton got paid some good money, so let's go ahead on and, you know, get into this. All right, so they're talking about. The conservatives are outraged at MSNBC's silence. Like MSNBC hid this information. It said Al Sharpton took $500,000 from Kamala and did an interview. All right, so they're talking about. Conservatives are slamming MSNBC after host Reverend Al Sharpton said that $500,000 for Kamala Harris' campaign weeks before a gushing interview. As Al Sharpton sat down with the vice president last month and drew scrutiny for his softball questioning with the conservative Washington Free Beacon releasing campaign finance records, claiming his nonprofit was paid handsomely before the gig, so you know she passed him half a million, y'all Okay. So it said billionaire hedge fund manager and Trump support bill Ackman led the charge, telling the Megan Kelly on her show this week the payments were an attempt to manipulate the audience, it said. Another critic uh, question that they aren't political campaigns supposed to get donations. And um so they said Harris campaign uh, Leslie gave two $250,000 payments to shop Sharpton's national action network on September five and October one and October 20. Sharpton went on to praise Harris extraordinary historic campaign and a gushing interview. Uh, branded Trump it's as a hostile and erratic. It's the MSNBC state's tally over the payment, despite suspending Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough in 2010 for making a $4,000 in campaign donations. Well, here's the thing Al didn't make a donation. He received money, okay, and Al has a non-profit, so that's totally different. Like we just gotta keep the facts of what they are and say the payment to Sharpton's organization came as part of a $5.4 million fund the Harris campaign dished out to black and Hispanic advocacy groups, ostensibly to help bolster a candidacy among minority voters, which didn't work, obviously, and say however, however, the moves spectacularly failed as Harris struggled among key demographics, including losing 7%, as say, of Hispanic voters and 8% of black voters compared to Joe Biden's 2020 totals.

Speaker 10:

As, after the payments to Sharpton came to light, the scandal led to claims of favoritism and clear lack of impartiality on Sharpton's part, which began even before his interview with Harris. Okay, so we know that all of them did softball questions to her. We all know this. That's nothing new. So all them all mad about it and all that. Now, this is the thing I'm not tripping about, what they're talking about. Talking about, oh, the conservatives. They mad that he, that Al Sharpton's organization, got the money. That's not why I'm going with this. I am going to talk with the money, though.

Speaker 10:

How many times have we told y'all these Democrats shields are being paid to do what they're doing, and Al Sharpton was paid half a million dollars to his nonprofit Of course, not directly to him, but we know it goes to him of course but his nonprofit was paid half a million dollars to be selling Democrat and Kamala Harris to black people. Remember, she did this to try to get black folks and Hispanic people to vote for her. These Democrat shields. That was crashing out. They were getting paid. We've been saying this and now the evidence is a call coming out now about who getting money.

Speaker 10:

These celebrities there was telling us about her. Oprah got a million dollars and tried to hide it when she got two payments of a $500,000, right Wonder wanted to lie and say I didn't get paid. You did get paid. What are you talking about? Who owns Harpo? Somebody else? So, these Democrat Shields, they're always on the take and that's the thing. It was a waste of money and time. These people don't really move the needle enough to influence black people. That's the thing. Whoever was consulting her. Don't hire them, Not even to influence a dog to change his food, because these people don't know what they're talking about.

Speaker 10:

The things that she should have went to she didn't go to right, Like the first time when Trump went to the NHBJ, she should have been there. It's no way that, if I had to advise her on anything, tell her to miss that. No, no, no. You need to be at every black event out there that Al Smith dinner you don't miss something like that. No, you be there. Your fellow Democrats was even there. You be there. She was offending people left and right, left and right, left and right and how she was moving. Offending people left and right, left and right, left and right and how she was moving All this money. Everybody was getting out the deal right, Everybody getting money, but she still lost. See these Democrats' shields. Right now I don't know what to do because you have to understand. The Democrats lost a lot of money on these shields and they all listen. I know they're scared. We're going to speed it up a little bit. We're shields and they all listen. I know they're scared because they have no use for them because we press for time.

Speaker 10:

We're going to speed it up. It has been broken into a thousand pieces right now and the Democrats going to have to pick up those pieces. And real, and the Democrats listen, democrats, I'm gonna tell you okay, all of them. You can't be left wing progressive, they got to go. You got to be more centrist, you got to be eight and anything else you're going to lose too. But Al Sharpton has no influence on any body, except maybe people his age group. But the younger people who the Democrats want, you're not going to get them. You understand Boulay Martin and Ricky Smiley and DL Hughley and all them. They have no influence. It don't matter what.

Speaker 10:

When with black men uh, black men summon on BET, they have no influence. They're speaking to a echo chamber. They're not reaching new people because the new people don't want to hear what they're selling, because we see the beat, we hear and see the BS. Before you even get started, we know what they're going to say and that's really what it is. So, democrats, what I'm telling you and I know you're listening let all the shields go that you have, let them all go, Cut all of them. But cut the money off and say, hey, it was a good ride, but we doing something different. Now cut them all off. Cut them off and then start from scratch. That's it. And if you're not willing to do that, you're going to lose.

Speaker 10:

If you continue to attack black people, black men, if you continue to be a misandrist, if you continue with this, cussing out uh, people who could vote for you I mean I don't understand the strategy of that one. If you continue with that, you will never win an election. I'm telling you to start over. But but given Al Sharpton $500,000, give him Oprah $1 million. That was such a waste of money, such a waste. When y'all go back and look at this election, y'all can be like what in the hell did we do? Why did we spend all this money in the lose this badly? Let you know, black people don't want to hear. No, no, entertainers are shaking a butt. Beyonce has no political capital with nobody. Glorilla I like Glorilla and everything, but I don't want to Glorilla. I like Glorilla and everything, but I don't want to hear Glorilla was talking about politics. I listen to Glorilla when I'm in the gym. You know what I'm saying? That's a that's far as Glorilla go with me is in the gym. Other than that, I don't listen to Glorilla like that.

Speaker 1:

All right, I'm going to. I'm going to tap out right there with Phil Scott, because I don't want to put all of his content Fair use. By the way, fair use, what I wanted to get into. I had to open the window so you may hear some sounds. What I wanted to get into, really, before we get out of here, is the black church is going after Reverend Al they on his bumper and they're calling for MSNBC to suspend him for inappropriate behavior, as they deem it Right. But here's the hypocrisy. Here's the hypocrisy from the black church.

Speaker 1:

The criticism of the black church regarding hypocrisy often revolves around its stance on social and political issues, especially when those positions conflict with traditional Christian teachings, especially when those positions conflict with traditional Christian teachings. Some key areas of scrutiny include support for the LGBT rights. While leaders like Reverend Al Sharpton have championed same-sex marriages as a civil rights issue, many black church congregations and pastors have historically opposed such movements, citing biblical principles. This dichotomy has led to internal debates about whether civil rights advocacy can extend to LGBTQ plus issues without compromising religious doctrine, gender and sexuality. Critics have pointed to the church's involvement in broader society debates about gender identity and the rights of transgender individuals, while some argue for inclusion and equality. Others claim that the church has been complicit in discriminatory practices, either directly or through silence, on issues like children's gender reassignments. On issues like children's gender reassignments, financial and moral accountability the financial entanglements of leaders like Reverend Al Sharpton, particularly his connections with political campaigns such as Kamala Harris's, have drawn criticism. Critics accuse some churches of selectively denouncing Sharpton while failing to address their own lapses in financial transparency and accountability on issues like community support and leadership ethics. Allegations of moral contradictions the black church has also faced allegations of moral contradictions for condemning Sharpton's financial dealings while ignoring broader society inequities or failing to support comprehensive civil rights, marginalized communities. These uh criticisms highlight a broader conversation about the evolving, the evolving role of the black church in modern society and its ability to reconcile traditional beliefs with contemporary civil rights issues. This debate remains significant as the church continues to wield influence in both religious and political spheres.

Speaker 1:

You know something I'm going to agree with Brother Phil Scott Family the black church the least of your problems is Al Sharpton and his improprieties, uh, concerning money and stuff like that and and, uh, whatever, uh, sexual deviancies that he supports. That's the least of your worries, black church, and I'm not picking on anyone and I'm not condemning, uh, anyone's belief, anything like that, but y'all got enough on y'all plate, just like you heard just now what Brother Phil Scott was saying about you have no influence with the black youth. Yeah, you got your old civil rights and your old baby boomers that go to church and they at all the dinners and banquets and stuff like that. And then you go to some of these churches on Sunday and, unless they're one of these big mega churches that be on TV, you go to a lot of these churches and they might have two or three rows of people.

Speaker 1:

Back when I was growing up, man, them churches was full. You didn't even have standing room. What happened? What happened? What happened? I know what happened. You pastors started going to ditty parties, right. You started, uh, tap dancing with the devil, right.

Speaker 1:

So the revenue is the least the least of of the black church's worry the least of it. But anyway, we gotta run. We've been up here long enough and let's see, let's see, can we um get y'all back in here next weekend? We back on track, we back on the grind, we back to work. And, uh, I really enjoyed this discussion with you today and we look forward to continuing to raise questions and search for answers to our problems. This is Vaughn Black signing off Peace.