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Peace, peace, and welcome back to the Freedmen's Affairs radio program, the Freedmen's Network. I'm your host, vaughn Black, and right out the gate, thank you for tapping in. This week and January 21st 2025, we're dealing with wisdom, knowledge, wisdom knowledge is the man for the day, but check this out In the summer of June in the summer of 59, I was young and cool and shot a bad game of pool and hustle all the chimps I could find.
Speaker 2:Well, now they call me sport, because I pushed bar short and loved all the women to death. I partied hard and packed a mean ride and could knock you out with a right or a left and by the time I was 11, I could pad roll seven and down me a whole quart of wine. I was making it a point to smoke me a joint at least once during the course of a day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, family, yeah, hustlers Convention. Hustlers Convention, those of you who know know. But anyway, as I said, today's math is wisdom, knowledge, and that would born understanding. However, however, that is not the proper order of things. Even though wisdom, knowledge, will born you an understanding, you will come to an understanding. But but wisdom is is right discernment or judgment, and you can't have right discernment or judgment unless you are aware and you have knowledge of something. So knowledge is always first. Now does it get to the same point of understanding? Yes, it will, but not without hardship. Understanding, yes, it will, but not without hardship. Because how many times have you went into a thing, maybe a relationship with someone, and you didn't really know the person, but you just moved so fast because there was a real strong attraction. And you end up with this person and you know, a month or two later you realize, wait a minute, man, I should, I should have took my time and got to know this person. Man, this person is not what I thought it was. And that's the understanding you come to because you didn't do the proper steps. In other words, you didn't do the knowledge first. You see, you got to do the knowledge first, the awareness, and then you can make a judgment and come to an understanding of what you need to do, how you need to move, where you need to go. All right, so now that we got that done now we got that done right, we got that done. Got that done right, we got that done.
Speaker 1:We are sitting here talking about the inauguration which took place yesterday. Uh, the the um president 47, that donald j trump is, uh, now the official 47th president of the united states. He was sworn in yesterday and family they've been beefing and carrying on about Nelly, snoop Dogg and this and that and that and this. So we're going to bounce around a little bit, but what I wanted to say, I wanted to address all of you, the Freedmen, the Foundationals, those of you who listen and tap in every week and listen to us and come back in here and sit with us. I wanted to say didn't I tell you? Didn't I tell you? They know Now the other side will never admit this, but they know it just took a few million of us to shake the table and make the cups and the sauces and the dishes fall and break, and that's what happened to the Democratic Party. But I want to go into something. Hold on a second, let me see Can I find this guy Hold on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, here it is. Here it is family, here it is. I want to hear something from my boy here. Hold on, just give me a second, we're going to get right to it.
Speaker 5:All right, you guys, I'm back with a quick video fair, use fair use.
Speaker 5:So, as you all know, donald trump is officially the 47th president of the united states. He was just sworn in. The inauguration party is probably still going on. I understand that, but guess what? He's officially your president, all right, and we're to give a round of applause for that. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5:Donald Trump, a man, he, he, he, he withstood a whole bunch of bull crap to make it here and, um, man, listen man, I just, I appreciate everybody. I appreciate all you guys, all the Patriots out there, everybody that's been subscribing to the channel. I got like a thousand new subscribers in like a couple of days. It's crazy, y'all.
Speaker 5:I appreciate everybody that has been subscribing to the channel, that's been supporting me, that's been liking my videos, that's been sharing my videos. You guys make this all possible and I appreciate you guys for constantly supporting me and constantly showing me that you're going to stand in my corner, even when I take a different direction. All right, I appreciate that, man and we're going to stick with this direction permanent. But I want to. I want to point out something in this inauguration that the speech that Donald Trump gave afterwards he specifically thanked the blacks and Latinos for getting him in office, because he understands how important our vote is and things like this is what family, what I have, what have I been teaching and talking to you about up here on this, on this program, see, a lot of us don't think we're worthy, but they know, they know.
Speaker 1:But let us continue though.
Speaker 5:Respect and appreciate. Joe Biden would never and these Democratic presidents would never say anything like this. And that's what I like about Trump he is upfront, he says what he means, he means what he says and he's not going to say it if he doesn't mean it. Now a lot of people are going to say, well, trump's not going to give us reparations. Listen, I'm not even going into that debate because I already explained the reparations part, but I want you guys to hear what Trump said in his inauguration speech. Excuse me, after he was sworn in, watch what he said here.
Speaker 3:We won by millions of people. To the black and Hispanic communities. I want to thank you for the tremendous outpouring of love and trust that you have shown me with your vote. We set records and I will not forget it. I've heard your voices in the campaign and I look forward to working with you in the years to come. Today is Martin Luther King Day and his honor. This will be a great honor, but in his honor, we will strive together to make his dream a reality. We will make his dream come true.
Speaker 5:Now, that's what we want to hear. That's what we want, he said. He not only said I thank the blacks and Latinos and Hispanics, but not for just thanking them. He said I look forward to working with you guys. So it's not just I thank you for getting me in the office and forget about you. I look forward to working with you. He said I've heard your voices. See, that's one thing. I see. If, y, if y'all really follow this.
Speaker 1:Now, family. We've talked about that up here. Now let me get one thing straight before I continue on, let me get one thing straight I did not vote for Trump. I do not. I'm not a Trump supporter. I'm not a MAGA, I'm none of that. I'm for what he just said. If you willing to work and put something out there, put. Let's get to the table and see what, what, what we can do, I'm for. I'm for all of that. I'm for all of that that came from his mouth.
Speaker 1:Now, we know, we know that that in the past, we've been made promises and things of that nature, right, but like the brother was saying, that's the research guy. Shout out to him and, by the way, fair use. But, as you heard him say, I look forward to working with you. I've heard y'all, I heard your voices. He's talking about us. He's talking directly to us. Family.
Speaker 1:Now, they did have some in certain states. They had some help from the, from the hispanic voters, yes, but a lot of that came from, not just the couple of few million of us that voted, because it's, it's between in the grassroots that that participated in this thing. It's between, I want to say, between three and seven million, three and a half, seven, between three and a half to seven million, that that that either voted for Trump or stayed home and that's what shook the table. I'm leaning towards that seven number, seven million number. I'm leaning towards that and that's.
Speaker 1:That was no good for the Democrats, but anyhow, anyhow, if, if he stand if he's he usually stands on what he say I know about the build a wall. He don't keep none of them keep fully 100 percent their, their promises. But now Biden promised us some things too, right. And the minute he got elected, elected and was able to address us, you know the police oversight and all that stuff the lift every voice. Well, we in a crisis right now. We fighting COVID or whatever. I ain't got time for that right now. Kick that down to Nancy Pelosi. I can't deal with that right now. Same thing with Ice-T and the contract with Black America. He said I will speak to you after the election. I think Ice-T was still waiting up until last week maybe he was still waiting to hear from them.
Speaker 1:But anyway, moving forward, family, that's what it was. That's what it was. The inauguration was yesterday. I watched it. I watched it on the networks, on the legacy networks, and it was pretty cool. It was pretty cool. The Democrats are crashing and they're still crying and whining and they're talking about Snoop Doggg and why did he go up there, him and Nelly, and this, this and that. Let me play these guys. Let me see these guys crying. Let me see, can I find it? Hold on, give me a second.
Speaker 6:Including Snoop Dogg, nelly and Rick Ross, were performed at one of President-elect Donald Trump's inaugural balls. Of course, this decision was met with a ton of backlash, as rap fans would express their disappointment and ask why these artists would accept the gigs from the future President Donald Trump, especially considering most of Trump's supporters probably don't listen to Snoop Nelly or Rick Ross. Well, after hearing all the backlash online and in the mainstream media, nelly would defend his decision to perform during a conversation with rapper Willie D. I'm not doing this for money. I'm doing this because it's an honor. I respect the office. It's an honor for me to perform for the president of the United States, regardless of who's in office. If President Biden would have asked me to perform, I would have performed. If Vice President Kamala Harris would have won and asked me to perform, I would have performed. If Vice President Kamala Harris would have won and asked me to perform, I would have performed. Later on in the conversation, nelly would also pose a question to Trump's critics who suggests he's a white supremacist. I would ask them to show me where he's a white supremacist Now.
Speaker 6:In addition to many social media users who would ridicule Nelly for choosing to perform, dio Hughley would take to social media to specifically respond to Nelly's own defense. On Instagram he would go on to write Wow, that's what we doing. Trump, propping up white supremacy isn't just in his past, nelly, it's who he still is today. This man called Daniel Penny a hero. He still stands behind his opinion of the Exonerated Five Haitian people eating the dogs. They're eating the pets. That was months ago. He doubled down on it. Multiple people on his staff said he uses the N word. Come on, bro, sometimes it's better to say nothing To me would also share a post from the social media user A girl has no president where he would, yeah, family, they still want, and they still crying and whining.
Speaker 1:President where he would, yeah, family, they still whining, they still crying and whining. But let me try to get nelly's voice with when he did the interview with willie d. Hold on, let me see can I get that in here, because I really want you to hear that again.
Speaker 7:Fair use, by the way, fair use, fair use willie d live, considering the backlash that you've received for agreeing to this performance right.
Speaker 2:But I've been getting backlash. I've been getting backlash my whole career.
Speaker 7:But this particular backlash is different. How do you reconcile your artistic choices with the diverse political beliefs of your fan base?
Speaker 2:That's my fan base, if my fan base really have a political belief right. Here's the thing Like I agree in family first. I believe in family first Period Period, family before politics, family above and beyond, like right, like. So now we don't always seem like we're making those choices. Sometimes, when we're, you know, when we grow up, the way that we grow up, sometimes when we in the hoods and we're doing certain things, it's like no, uh, you know you're not putting your family first when you're out there, uh, hustling, or you're not putting you're really putting your family first. Like we can rationalize that and say that we are. We can rationalize that and say that we are. We can rationalize that and say that we are, but really we're not because we're taking certain choices, but in our hearts we truly believe that. So in this type of situation, if my fans are, so, if politics is above and beyond anything other than what that person stands for, what that person has done, then I apologize that I quote unquote let you down, because I thought you was riding with me for the scholarships that I've been giving away since I've been in this business. I thought you was riding with me for the people that I got signed up on the bone marrow stem cell registry. That was all record breaking and helping people save lives. I thought you was riding with your boy for the children that we visit at Children's Hospital to brain. I thought you was riding with me for the bikes and the presents and the things that we give away to unfortunate kids at Christmas. I thought you was riding with me because I put on for my city and I try to bring my city up every step of the way. I did not know you was riding with me because you thought I would ride for who you voted for. I didn't know that. I apologize. I apologize. I didn't know that I had to agree with your political choices and I thought it was the things that you do, not the things that you say should be done.
Speaker 2:If you follow what I do, this shouldn't even be an argument. He's the president. He won. This isn't a campaign. This isn't an RNC. I'm not out on a political campaign. I didn't get none of that 1.5. You see what I'm saying To try to help somebody get voted. Kamala didn't invite you to vote. No, she didn't invite me.
Speaker 3:She didn't invite me either man, I was going to do all you know, but I don't knock the ones that did.
Speaker 2:I don't knock the brothers and sisters that benefited from it. I don't knock the correspondents that may have gotten money to do that. I'm not doing this for money. I'm doing this because it's an honor. I respect the office, it don't matter who is in office. The same way that our men and women, our brothers and sisters who protect this country have to go to war and have to put their life on the line for whoever in office, so if they can put their life on the line for whoever in office, I can damn sure perform for whoever in office.
Speaker 7:What do you say to the people that say we're not giving you this backlash because of your political affiliation or your political choice or whatever. We're giving you this backlash because you are propping up a white supremacist.
Speaker 2:I would ask them to show me where he's a white supremacist. And here's the thing. Okay, I get it. He did say if you don't vote for me, you're not black, right? Oh, no, that wasn't him. That wasn't him. That wasn't him. Hold on, I'm trying to think, Hold on, Hold on, Hold on.
Speaker 2:He did create I know where you're going, I know where you're going. He did create the crime bill in the 90s which said that if you get caught with five grams of crack, you do a mandatory five years. That had mass incarceration. I think even the vice president, Kamala, spoke on that part that said that the crime bill played a huge part. He, OK, no, he didn't do that. Let me see what did he do? I'm trying to think the white supremacist. Hold on, I'm gonna get to it.
Speaker 2:Okay, he did not rent to black people. What was it in the 70s or the 80s? Is that what they said? And like, okay, is he renting to them now? So nobody's allowed to change, right? See, here's the thing. So we can talk about past, but we never want to talk about our past. If we bring up, if our past get brought up in our community for a lot of what our men did we always call it real big? Say yo, these young bros, we've been through a lot. I know I've been through a lot. If my past was what was going to prevent me from winning today, to prevent me from winning today, I wouldn't be here. You know what I'm saying Now. I'm not saying that he ain't got some fucked up ways. That's not what I'm saying at all. That's why I'm not telling you who to vote for. But what I'm saying is that he's the president of the United States. He's not the candidate for the United States, he's the president he won for the United States. He's the president.
Speaker 1:He won, I think, if Trump some of these ways like you know, with the, and that's it for that, Because we don't want to stay on Willie D's thing too long and too much. But you get the gist of what the conversation was about, right, you get it. You get it. Make the point now. I'm now. I'm again.
Speaker 1:Again, for those of you who are listening to me, I'm not a trump supporter, I'm not a maga. I didn't vote in the in the um, I voted in the general election, but I voted for the senate in the congress seats. I didn't vote for the top of the ticket because there was nothing on the table at that point in time for my ethnic group, which is the foundational black Americans, the descendant of the freedmen of the United States of America from 1863. That's where mys are and if you ain't talking about nothing, that's going to be a benefit to that group of people. I don't, I really don't. You know that my couch is very comfortable. I'm very comfortable on my couch, so that's where we at with that family. That's where we at with that. But as you heard the brother play, the research guy played um after he was sworn in his inaugural speech.
Speaker 1:You heard that and what he said now I don't think he's the kind of man that just puts things out there. Well, he did say about that. I remember him saying about the the wall, the border wall, and they're gonna make mexico pay for it and that never happened, but something of this magnitude I don't think he was just talking to the wind.
Speaker 1:Now, whether he moves on what he says, that remains to be seen. That remains to be seen and you know, we shall see, we shall see. I'm not holding my breath for anything because right now we on a delineation movement and that is giving us power and it's, it's built. We're building a lot of momentum with that, with that situation. We're building a lot of momentum and I like the trend in the direction we're going in, that we're trending in and we got to keep doing it. We got to keep doing it and, uh, there's, there's been, there's gonna be some um, there's gonna be some roadblocks.
Speaker 1:Of course, like with anything else, there's gonna be some roadblocks and, um, we're gonna take a quick intermission and, um, because Faze said he was calling in, he wanted to come up here and spit some game. My man, dj Faze, from out of the Bronx, the First Division Black Spade member, I've had him, he's been up here a couple times on the program and he said he wanted to come up. So we're going to go to a quick little intermission and I'm going to see what's happening with that and maybe he'll call in and we can get to it with him. With that, let's go to play some commercial non-commercials, let's go.
Speaker 8:This is the 50th anniversary of hip-hop and we still have a lot of discrepancies as far as the origins of hip-hop. A lot of claims, who did what, who was the first, this, who was the this and that, and such and such. But at the end of the day, we need a definitive story, all right, and that story can only be told by the founders of this culture. Like everything was being driven and influenced by young black American culture, like the slang, the style of dress, the initial music that we chose.
Speaker 9:Look at all the furrows you got. You know Money Makin' that Hand and Money Earnin' Mount Burnin' and Crooklyn. The Bronx was the boogie down Bronx. We was partying up there. I am Coke LaRock, the first MC of hip hop.
Speaker 2:First cat to pick the mic up. I introduced rapping to the turntables because when I came with it, nobody in the world was doing it.
Speaker 8:I'm right after Rudy Ray Moore. They want to come in the mix. They want to say I was restarted. No, no, you didn't, no, you didn't, no, you didn't. What can't be known as hip-hop was solely an african-american creation what would you get out of some?
Speaker 1:jamaican toast. What is that? I've never heard. I think I got the signal. Now you did okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got the signal. I got the signal. Good, good, good. I just went to a commercial, to a little commercial Commercial, non-commercial, you know, to give you some time To call in or whatever. And the minute I went into the commercial, boom, here you call. So here you are, here you are. Well, I was just about to get on Because I finished with the, the inauguration thing. Them talking about snoop and nelly and all that just before now, before we get into your thing, I want your thought on that, on them brothers performing at the inauguration you know I have my mixed thoughts about trump and I've been saying that for the longest.
Speaker 4:Um, I believe and this is just with my heart I believe like this. I believe like if you're a crack dealer I use crack dealer as or any kind of drug dealer you don't want to serve a neighborhood that doesn't have money. You don't want to go to the poor, poor neighborhoods that don't have money. You don't want to go to the poor, poor neighborhoods that don't have money because you won't be able to make money. So I feel I take that same theory with Trump. He wants to keep the money here in America so that he can make money. And how can he make money is by having the neighborhoods that have money to spend their money. And one thing that he also wants that I've seen during research is that, just like you know, he said he doesn't want an immigrant to come here, make money and send it back to their country. Because is that benefiting us? It's not benefiting us at all.
Speaker 4:I agree with that, you know. And so those are some of the things that happen and those are some of the things that's real. I mean, yes, they say that he might be racist or whatever. We're racist. I don't like pink people because of what they've done to us for all of these years, because of what they're still doing to us.
Speaker 4:Out of all of these Now I'm not going to just put them all in one basket and say all of them, but for me, the most of them have that alternate interior. They have that in them and I can 100% sure say that if you have just two people and they have a seven-bedroom house and they have, you know, just two people and they live in a nice area or whatever, and, like I said, they got a seven-bedroom, four-and-a-half bath house and land on there and they know that there's a family that lives in a two-bedroom apartment and they have maybe eight kids or whatever. And even if it was a condo or something like that, they would never say okay, listen, I want you guys to live better, so you guys come and live in this house and we'll co-live there. That'll never happen under any circumstances. They will not accept and say that they're Black and we're white. They'll never say that and nothing. They'll never accept that, because they know the status of black. It's not even a matter of saying the color of black, it's the status of black, All right. And so that's why you know, and that's why you know things happen the way they do.
Speaker 4:So you know what they want us to do, and I was just watching a movie today and what they want us to do is say, oh, yeah, okay, we did you dirty and everything, but just get over it. And you know, the Bible says something is turn the other cheek. The Bible says something that says turn the other cheek. And so, yeah, we could do you wrong and everything. But you know, don't be bitter about that, Don't be bitter that we, for 400, 500 years, that we put you in slavery or whatever, Don't be bitter about that. You know, just go on with your life, Just go on with it.
Speaker 4:Meanwhile, who's on the bottom end of the stick? We are, and that's the problem. So they don't want us just like hip hop. They don't want us to benefit or, you know, have something that we can claim. They didn't want us to say that this is our land and we are from this land. We're not. You know, we're from this land, we're not foreign to this land. They'll never want you to say that. They never want you to do that. They don't want us to be educated and know about the laws that they, you know, have manipulated for all of this time. They don't want us to know that. And so that's the problem Anytime we get close. Because imagine, just imagine, out of all the stuff that we've been through, we still survived. We still survived, no matter what they put on us. We survived drugs, we survived alcohol, gun use put on us. We survived drugs, we survived alcohol, guns. All of that stuff we survived. Now imagine if we didn't even have to go through that stuff.
Speaker 1:All right, Imagine Right, right, I got you. You kind of veered off a little bit into something else. Well, you veered off in what we're going to be talking, what you and I are going to discuss a little bit up here. We're going to chop it up about that. But first I have to apologize because the audio went out for a second, so there was some dead space, and when I finish putting my touch on this thing and getting it out to the people or whatever, I'm going to try to polish over that. But I apologize to the audience, the listening audience, first because some of your audio didn't come through, because there was a glitch, and then I figured out what it was Because when you called in I had the commercial playing and buttons.
Speaker 1:I was touching buttons so some of your audio wasn't being able to hear, but the last part of it, everything came through. So I want to apologize for that. You wasn't aware of it, but I could see. I'm looking at the monitors in the screen here so I could see everything Family. The question was I was asking DJ FaZe how did he feel about Snoop Dogg, rick Ross, soulja Boy and Nelly performing at the Inauguration Balls? And he went into a diatribe about how he felt about it. I don't think he appreciated it or whatever like that. It's not that I appreciate it. My thing is I see nothing wrong with it because, for the simple fact of, these are performers, they're entertainers. They're not political leaders. We don't look at them for our social cues or anything like that. We look at these people for entertainment. So I see nothing wrong with them going to uh entertain for the, for the, the person who won, if they don't, if kamala would have won and they would have went, I wouldn't have had a problem with that either.
Speaker 1:But you got people that you got people that are calling them sellouts and this and that and the Coons and all of this stuff.
Speaker 4:Well, I have a question what did they sell out? This is what I'm asking.
Speaker 1:That's the question. I ask what did they sell out? Because Nelly said he ain't doing it for money. Nelly got plenty of money. So do Snoop, so do Rick Ross. Now Soulja Boy said he needed the money. I saw that when he said he said man, they gave me a bag to go up there and do that. So that's what I'm going to do, and yes. I'm not mad at them either. Get your money, go get your money.
Speaker 4:Right, but I guarantee you that they took the bag, no matter what, of course.
Speaker 1:And I ain't mad at them for that. I ain't mad at them for that. I ain't mad at them for that because I'm taking a bag too and I'm doing what I want to do, because the other side has been done nothing in the last 60 years. They have done nothing. They've been getting a vote for free and they have done nothing. We got a whole congressional black caucus right now. We got a whole entire caucus. Right now we got a whole entire. It's about 60 63 members of the black caucus, right? Guess how many of them are freedmen or descendants of the freedmen. Guess how many? How many? You said there's 60 of them. There's 60 of them.
Speaker 4:Guess how many are freedmen probably now that you say that, probably 80 percent, 13, 13 members of foundational.
Speaker 1:That's it. The rest of them are from caribbean descent or either africa, the congress I'm talking about the congressional black caucus, the Caucus. The woman who was just elected to the chair for that caucus is a Jamaican woman. Wow, wow. So now you know that's a whole nother discussion yeah, I don't want to go into that, but I just. I just wanted to up, yeah.
Speaker 4:I just wanted to bring me aware of that. Yes, yes, and I wasn't aware of that. I would think that you know, with the standards of what's going actually the reality of what's going on that more freedmen would probably step up to the plate.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's disappointing to be honest, I'm going to tell you what's going on. See, on the left, they want to keep these type of people because they know we're going to raise some hell. Dumb people are not going to do it. Dumb people are going to go with their agenda. Whatever their agenda is, that's what they're going to raise some hell. Dumb people are not going to do it. Dumb people are going to go with their gender. Whatever their gender is, that's what they're going to go with Right. So it's more beneficial for them to look for foreigners to represent which they don't represent us, because if you look at the congressional black caucus, they do things for LGBT, Hispanics, Asian, the this one immigrants, immigrants and all this other shit you know, that's when it comes to us.
Speaker 1:Well, oh, oh, oh, okay, I'll call you.
Speaker 1:I'll call you. See, this is what. This is, why the work we're doing in the delineation thing we're doing, all of this is so important. The thing with the hip hop defend we can get into that right now Us defending the origins of that, us causing the Democrats to crash and burn with the general election. That was us. And during the inauguration speech, the President Trump mentioned that he thanked the Hispanic. Well, he said it in this order To the black and Hispanic voters I thank you for what you've done. You helped me get here. He said that you understand and I've been preaching that message from this microphone. I've been preaching that that we're stepping into our power, we're stepping into it and we're leaning into it.
Speaker 4:I have a question on that. Let me ask you that so what do you think will happen if we end up with that power? What do you think will happen to us as a people If we do get that power, obtain that power? What do you think will happen to us as a people if we do get that power, obtain that power? What do you think will happen to?
Speaker 1:us as a people. We already have it. The problem is that previous generations have been afraid of it. We already have it, we just don't understand it. They understand what we have. They understand it Same thing with this hip hop thing. They know this is why the people are coming at us like this, because they know the power. We already have the power it is. The question is is when we realize it and start waking up and using it. Because, through through the annals of, we've been afraid of power, and I was listening to a broadcast earlier to earlier. Well, yesterday I was listening to a broadcast by Tariq and he was saying how, on the plantations, you had some of the.
Speaker 1:Some of the brothers and sisters were very talented in different things and they would dumb themselves down because they didn't want their attention, because once the slave master realized that they had a special skill, a special power, they would be auctioned off and they didn't want to leave their families, they didn't want to be separated from their children and wives and stuff or their husbands. So they dumbed down. That's why some of them acted ignorant the way they did You're my husband Because they knew the talents and the powers that they had, but they dumbed it down just so they wouldn't get the attention, and that has been transmitted through the annals of time with us. This is why, whenever we step out and say, listen, we want reparation, we want this, we want that, we want this, we want that, the older people say no, no, no, no, yeah, shh, shh, y'all be quiet. Now you're going to make them folks mad. Now Y'all stop that.
Speaker 4:Now Y'all don't do that now Right, right, and I think that's a perfect example of what we were just talking about with the entertainers. It's not the pink people that are bringing an uproar about those entertainers that they call sellouts. It's not them, it's their own people that's doing it.
Speaker 1:So if we really had the power. That's them, scared Negroes. It ain't the grassroots. Because we ain't the grassroots, we behind Snoop and Nelly and all them, we behind them.
Speaker 4:Go get it. And, like I said, if we had the power, if we really had the power, that wouldn't even be a percentage of us. If you think about it, the generations before us and everything, they only would learn what they were taught. They didn't take something and say, okay, I'm gonna learn it this way, I'm gonna do it, I'm going to. They didn't do that. Very, very few of them did that. And so if they were taught to do something, that's what they did. They didn't. They didn't wander anywhere off of what they were taught.
Speaker 4:And so I think the generations now and the generations like right after my, mine and your generations, I think they're more into learning what they learn. You see what I'm saying. So they might not have had the people to teach them that old style. They might not have had those people to say, oh well, you can't kiss a person on the first date, you know, because that's what they were taught. You see, when there's absolutely nothing was wrong with kissing somebody on the first date, showing signs of affection. So the generation after are the ones that say I don't see nothing wrong with kissing someone on the first date because they did it within their self.
Speaker 4:And I think that that's where the biggest problem comes in is that we come from a generation that was only learned what they were taught. They didn't digress from what they were taught. They were taught that Indians were here on this land. They were taught that Christopher Columbus discovered America. They were taught that they were brought from Africa to this land. They were taught that they were foreign to this land. You see what I'm saying. They didn't say well, wait a minute bit, hold up. How could this be? How could he even if that's what they're saying how could he discover something? And people were already there? You know, how can he plant his flag on a land that someone else is there?
Speaker 1:right. The thing with that is this what we gotta realize this generation, we in a whole new age now we, you know, we've cracked the dawn of Aquarius. We in the information age now, the things we know now. We might have knew very little of it in those times, but not as we know them now. A lot of stuff I'm still learning. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:So right, but why? It's not that the information wasn't there, yeah, but the information, the information was suppressed.
Speaker 1:If we was, we were suppressed from the information phase. We were suppressed from it for a very long time, but it was the thinking.
Speaker 4:Okay, so it was the amount of thinking. Wait a minute wait a minute Wait wait, wait, a minute.
Speaker 1:You said the thinking. There was information that was purposely withheld from us, suppressed from us.
Speaker 4:Right, but it has nothing to do with information, you see, it has the amount of thinking. So, in other words, you don't have to have any education to know that if somebody goes to a land and see people there already, that the people that were there already were the people of that land.
Speaker 1:Now, so it's a matter of thinking Right, I got that part, but you're losing me and saying well, you know there's nothing they could have. They fought, they fought as much as they could to be to come up from under the suppression.
Speaker 4:Yes, I admit that they fought. I admit that they fought, but we can't use the form of suppressed education. We can't. Why not? That if they want a bottle and they have a bottle in their hand and you take away that bottle, they know that that's not what they want. They know that right off the bat a baby and they know that if you give it back to them that they're satisfied and they want that. They know that if another baby has a bottle and they take that bottle from them, that they're not supposed to do that because they're supposed to wait for their bottle. They know that right off the bat and that's something that is not even toy, that's just a matter of inside, being inside.
Speaker 4:So the same way with and I hate to use it with the slaves. You know they knew, they automatically knew that if you're being raped and you're being, that that's a bad thing, that's a bad thing. And you know I hate to say it, but the house slave or whatever say it, but the house slave or whatever, they knew that the master was giving them a car launch because of them doing what the master would have, but not rebelling, not giving them any lip back or whatever, and would turn against their people, and that's what it is. You got a lot of the stuff happens and it still happens to today. People turn on their own people.
Speaker 1:people turn on their own people how the panthers get dismantled right and we get right and we can already touch on that now, before we do, I just want to say this. I just want to say this um, I'm not saying this is what you're saying, but I want to. This is for the family that's listening. We didn't just take weapons and never fought back. That's what they, that's what the, the dominant society that's what the dominant society would have. You believe that we just took weapons and we did, with plenty of revolts and everything.
Speaker 1:In fact Denmark VC had 10,000 people ready to go and revolt and and it was a, a coon or a house of hand of that that um spoil the um gave out the information and spoil it, spoil the loot. But we can really touch on that right now. Um, with this thing about, like you're saying, the house, negroes always go against their own and I'm going to play something now. I'm going to play the interview now. This is your boy Listen.
Speaker 9:Listen up. Yes, indeed, ladies and gentlemen, the legend king himself, grand Master Melly Bell, Ladies and gentlemen, the legend king himself, grandmaster Melly Bell. What I want to try to do is bring some kind of clarity to a situation that's been floating around and, as a matter of fact, just to try to get it off the front page. We want to put a little weirdness on the back page. Now they got this whole thing going on about who started hip-hop and whether Puerto Ricans was the backbone or whether black people was the backbone of the culture. Now there's no wrong answers. I don't believe in right or wrong answers, but there's results. Now, this is the bottom line. Everybody got their opinion, so now this is my opinion. There's no black culture. Hip-hop is not black culture. Hip-hop is Bronx culture. All the shit that made hip-hop the building blocks of hip-hop. It was formed in the Bronx. The first popular DJs DJ Kool Herc Bronx Cat. The first popular DJ is DJ Kool Herc Bronx cat. The first turntable is Flash Bronx cat. The first guy to do the scratch, graham Wizard Theodore is a Bronx cat, right, the first MC. You're looking at him.
Speaker 9:I was born and raised in the Bronx Monsignor Hospital. The Bronx culture Is hip hop culture. So the fact that If you got two different sides Arguing About the culture Of hip hop, you didn't even say none of the Bronx guys name Like all this, we shit, like you, french, who's all the we? First of all, whoever's speaking about that? You wasn't even there. I'm there. I'm 16, 17 years old. I'm looking at her.
Speaker 9:If you want to talk about hip hop culture and have it being beneficial for somebody, why ain't he supposed to benefit her? Why you can't ask to answer somebody? Ask somebody that was there. You're just going to take it upon yourself. Oh yeah, well, you know so. And so started the culture. Uh, uh, uh. At the end of the day, the people, the people wasn't even really behind hip-hop like that. You, you want to know who was behind hip-hop in in the very beginning was behind hip-hop, that's who was in the parties, and you had a couple of people from the outer boroughs and they came in, but the whole thing happened in the Bronx. This whole conversation is supposed to benefit the true founders and builders of hip-hop, but you never even asked them. Did you ask Herc? Did you ask Biggs? Did your ass hurt? Did your ass or Biggs? Or did your ass flash, yo Flash, what do you?
Speaker 1:Faze. I'm going to pause it right there because it's a lot. It's a lot, it's a lot to unpack and I got my what I want to say. I got what I want to say, but with you, you got so much, but I want you to keep, because we getting starting to get a little pressed for time. So I want you to keep to the shorter version, but give him the powwow, okay.
Speaker 4:The first thing you can definitely say is he started off by saying there's no wrong answers. That's what he started off saying. And then he said you know that this is the wrong answer. You know because it wasn't. It wasn't this or that, it wasn't. You know, black supporter, it was a Bronx thing. So he's already saying that. No, whatever was said before that, before he said what he was said was the wrong answer. So that's, that just shows right. An intelligent person would look at that and say that's the first contradiction of the argument. So another thing that you can tell right off the bat is that he had to be paid to say that he had to be because his stance change from when he was a microphone check Okay. So if his stance changed from microphone check to now, there had to be a certain amount of monies that would change for him to say that. Because remember what he just said, he said that her flash right and he was okay so did.
Speaker 1:He also mentioned. Graham was a theodore, and himself. Now, before I say any, he also mentioned, theodore Graham was at.
Speaker 1:Theodore and himself. Now, before I say any, before you go on, let me say this real quick. He did right here in this clip he's speaking. In this is Grandmaster Melly Mel from the Furious Five and flashing him right Now he called himself in this thing here, this video here, defending Fat Joe, coming to Fat Joe's aid to give him a lifeline. Now, when he says this is a Bronx thing, this is a Bronx culture, is not black culture, that's what we were just talking about. Those, those same kind of Negroes that that do that, why would you attack your own, your own people? Now, he went, he went. He's supposed to be in defense of fat joe. Now, fat joe's the one that started all this. Him and cologne and all them started all this with this 50, 50 stuff. They start. We didn't start this, they started it, of course. Now, of course, uh, you come out and you defending them now, because you see fat joe's catching it, he catching the backlash, he's catching it, he's catching it hard, so he's actually canceled.
Speaker 4:He's, he's he. We we've got enough to cancel him, right. He's canceled, right. But so he probably gave him the money to help.
Speaker 1:Now I'm gonna, now I'm going to let you in on something. I don't know if you're aware of this. He probably called, he needs some kind of damage control and this is why he gave the call to Melly Mel, and Melly Mel is going to in a roundabout way, kind of Except the bag. If you can read through the lines, that's exactly what happened because, ty, now there's a promoter. What's the old promoter's name? That was on Lord Jamal's show that time with Raheem. What's the promoter? He used to promote the parties back in the days, with all the flyers and stuff. What's his name? Van Silk, van Silk, van.
Speaker 4:Silk, van.
Speaker 1:Silk Van Silk. Van Silk called Tyreek on the phone and said Tyreek, I got Melly Mel on the other line and he wants you to say that hip-hop is not a black culture, it's a Bronx culture. Tyreek told him hell, no, I'm not saying that Right, Was you aware of that?
Speaker 4:You know, listen, listen. You know I have my things, that you know these people and I'm going to tell you 100%, this is 100%. All these people that you're talking about is not first generation hip-hop. That's just. There's no other way you can slice it.
Speaker 1:He's going to admit that that he's not a first generation, because he was a B-boy at first. Sasa and Trixie and them was first generation.
Speaker 4:Not necessarily, not necessarily, not necessarily. I consider the first generation of hip-hop, 70 to 74.
Speaker 1:Well, Trixie said he started in 70.
Speaker 4:But he didn't start.
Speaker 1:He was over on the west side with Herc and them Right, he didn't start b-boying.
Speaker 4:He was doing burning and stuff. What, what, what burning is? So burning goes back to the 60s, you know right, um, burnings probably goes back before that, you know. So you know that's just like R&B and soul music. You can trace that back to I don't know how long, you know, but that's not hip hop. So the first generation of hip hop is from 70 to 74.
Speaker 4:That's the first generation right, that's the first generation and so you know, just like the so-called fake flyer that brought her at 73, you know, still that's. You know, we're going to go ahead and make the cutoff 74. And from 74, 75, 76, 77 is the second generation, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82 is the third generation. So you have to really look at the people that were in the first one, the first generation, and then you look at the people that's in the second generation and you look at the people that's in the third generation and you look at the people that's in the third generation, and you'll notice that a lot of people that are in the second generation claim that they were in the first generation, because they see that the first generations are the creators of it and there's no other way to slice it.
Speaker 4:They'll run and say, just like, you know and I hate to say it, I'm the one that brought Trixie and Sasa to Tariq, I'm the one that made that connection, right, right, I'm the one that made that connection, right, right, but it's just, it's really, it's really. You know, sad to say, you know that what you're doing, that's just like you know a lot of people I just made this argument the other day. Well, they brought the argument to me. They said that you know, james Brown is really the one that started it. No, it's not. He's not. He didn't start hip hop. His music was used to start hip hop, but he didn't start hip hop. He didn't have the in his mind, he was instruments.
Speaker 1:He played instruments he didn't have in his mind we know that that's what I'm saying see now what I think needs to happen, because there's a whole lot of nitpicking going on right now and it's a lot of back and forth. But here's the thing with Charlie Rock, and it's a lot of back and forth, but here's the here's the thing with with with charlie rock and meli mel, kind of kind of messed up at, because once you go back, you you make a statement and you go back on that state, you, you're documented, you're documented saying, saying, saying one thing. Once you go back on that you, you almost kill your credibility, you understand? So, because you're trying to take up for someone you're going to, you know all the people you mentioned this is a Bronx culture all the people you mentioned Theodore Herc, flash, yourself who are I don't remember any Spanish person named in that.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 1:So what are you talking about? It's just the Bronx is a location. You have inanimate objects there. You have buildings, concrete, train stations. These are inanimate objects. The people who started the culture are who?
Speaker 5:Who are they?
Speaker 1:Descendants of Freedmen. Most of y'all people came from the South. Right the music that you were listening to. You was using your mother's old 45s and albums with Rufus Thomas and James Brown and Baby Huey, and all that's the music you was using, right, right. What culture is that? Is that music relegated to the Bronx?
Speaker 4:It's something, and that's one thing that I was just and I just said I'm going to give you all some jewels right now. There's a such thing as a metronome. I just said this in another interview. A metronome is a device that keeps time and it's just like a clock. It's just like a clock. It's just like a clock. That's why a clock? Um, there's a difference between, uh, a boulevard and a rolex. Um, you know the different timings now? Uh, different timings Now, metronome, we have a different timing within ourselves. It's just something that that god blessed us with and gave it to us. So our timing goes one and the two and the three and the four and the two and the two and the three and the four and the three and the two and the three and the four and the four and the two and the three and the four. So just that, anna, that Anna is our connection to our soul. That Anna and no other people have that in them. That's why, when you see a pink person dance, they're dancing to the standard metronome.
Speaker 4:They're dancing to the standard metronome, they're dancing to that time, which is pretty much off beat for us that's why if you take a James Brown record and you put it up against a metronome, it'll be off, because James Brown never used a metronome, he used his soul. And that's why the syncopated beats come in. That's why you know it's the stutter beat, because he's using everything. When you hear funky drummer, you don't just hear boom that, you hear the snare drum, you hear the rolls in the snare drum, you hear the hits on the hi-hat snare drum, you hear the hits on the hi-hat, you hear the different collections of sounds within the sound. And so that's the difference with our soul. And no matter what you do, no matter what you do, you can wear our hats, you could wear our clothing, you could even try to talk the way we talk, you could try to look the way we look, but that'll never be inside of them, ever. That's just what we are. That's why, when we're little kids, all of us from the South or whatever come and they say go you, go, boy, you go, and they're just doing their thing, and that's because that's inside of them.
Speaker 4:So the problem is that they might try to recreate what we have done, but it can't happen. Just like you know, when we were breakdancing, we were creating the moves as we go. So now you go, look at the Olympics and they'll tell you the thing. People tell you Well, look, if you move your arm that way, that's not break dancing. If you do this, you disqualify because that's not break dancing. How can they tell anybody how to dance what we created, our moves. So we don't have? No, we, we, we didn't. We might've did a different dance every single day. We did the dance.
Speaker 1:We might've did a different move. That's the argument that's been popping off is that, with the Latinos or the Puerto Ricans, whoever, when they say, oh, we was there from the beginning, we, you know, we helped create a hip-hop Breakdance, breakdance, breakdance. They focus on breakdance because there's nothing else that they can do.
Speaker 4:We come up with a dance every, and they can't do that.
Speaker 1:We come up with a dance every we come up with a dance damn near every couple of weeks is something new. To this day, it's still like that. This is why, when they started break dancing, they went into more of an acrobatic thing, because they didn't have the rhythm as you was where you was alluding to. But I want to go back to, to the, to the, to the last part of the melly mel thing and then, then you know we can, we can start breaking it down and going into it.
Speaker 4:Hold on, okay go hold on, go ahead, okay, when you, when you, when you're playing this millie mel thing. Let me tell you what the basis of this whole thing is, that he's saying you could play all this stuff and it still wouldn't matter. The bottom line is this Number one thing is he's trying his best to include someone that wasn't there. That's number one. That's all he's doing. He's trying to include his self into it. He doesn't have the authority to say what happened in the beginning. He can't tell you what happened in 70, 71, 72, 73. He can't tell you because he wasn't there.
Speaker 1:That. I know that I know, Now I have a recording of Melly Mel and them in 1979. And they were at the Queens Armory in Queens, hollywood. Eddie Chiba all of them were there and Melly Mel that's when he was first. They were starting to get recognition at that time Because all the guys we knew was hollywood and eddie chiba and all them and you know coke larocque, you know we heard of them guys. Then we started hearing about meli, mel and them and and the rest of the bunch you know.
Speaker 4:so, yeah, I found and that was like I told you, like I told you, you know there were many people that were. You know you. Look at Soul Train. You know, I think Soul Train came in 72. There were many people doing you know stuff. You can, you could go to the Jocko Henderson, which was a DJ. You know, wolfman jack, yeah, these, these are, these are, uh, radio djs and what they were doing, they were playing the hits of that time and that's it. It has nothing to do with DJ, I mean with hip-hop, right, and that's where the problem comes in at. The problem comes in as that number.
Speaker 4:One thing, and this is the most important thing, kids, not even teenagers, created this trillion dollar industry. Kids, and when we were doing it, the older kids thought we were stupid, thought that that was the stupidest thing that they could ever see. They thought that number was the stupidest thing that they could ever see. They thought that number one for us to play just the drums in the record, the solo in the record, that that was stupid. They thought for us to talk or not to snap on the mic was stupid. They thought for us to get on the floor and dirty up our clothes was stupid. They thought that, and this is in the beginning, and they didn't understand how we could have a whole record and only play that one little couple of seconds of the record. They thought it was stupid.
Speaker 4:But when Mario let us do it on his set and people started looking and seeing the amazement of us, what we were doing, then it became cool and as soon as it became cool the same thing that they're doing right now they say, oh, we did this, we were the ones that invented this, and that's the same thing that has been going on from how long. Look at Johns Hopkins. Look at that. You understand that that one of us did the surgery, did all of that, and what's to happen? They gave the lead, the pink man took it and that was it. You see what I'm saying. So you know, like I said, you could play the whole thing of Melly Mel and it doesn't. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. This thing happened to us from day one.
Speaker 1:Well, what? The reason why I'm playing it? Because, as we were talking and you alluded to, is about the about there's always going to be a house Negro that's going to crash. Now, what he did was crash out. Now he, like I told you, van Silk, caught Tariq and had Melly Mel was on the other line and he called in to Tariq and said Tariq, listen, melly Mel's on the other line and he wants you to say that it's not black culture, it's Bronx culture.
Speaker 4:Now, I hate to say it, but who's the sellout in that?
Speaker 1:phone call To me it would be Melly Mel. The way I see it Now, van Silk was just making a connection.
Speaker 4:Tariq said no he's not doing that. Why would he make that connection? Think about it. Well, hold on, hold on, if he knows.
Speaker 1:We can't put that on him because you know why. That's just like if you you know you and I friendship and you ask me to make a call to a person, for whatever reason your reason is, I'm going to make the call and tell you I'm not. I'm going to make the call and tell you I'm going to relay the message If you ask me to relay the message because of your relationship. I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 4:And I'm not going to do that. If you tell me something that I know is wrong, I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I wouldn't even let you do that. I would say no, brother, I'm not going to do that because that's wrong. What he's with the person is saying is wrong, so I'm not going to even make that connection. You got to get that connection on your own. I'm not going to do that connection. I see, I see the point. See, I see the point. I see the point. Um, exactly because you know that's where that's where integrity comes in.
Speaker 1:Well, of course, these dudes, these dudes we talking about, once you, you make a state, you go and you go back on your word. Now, sometimes things can happen and events can take place and things change and that would cause you to have a change of thought or a change of heart or whatever the case might be. Of course, you have to explain that now. That always happens.
Speaker 4:But with this. That's a part of that. Let me just say this that's a part of the explanation. So if I have a change of heart about something, then I will say well, listen, I thought this way, but I've had a change of heart and this is what I think as now. Okay, I wouldn't say I got a change of heart and what I said was wrong and this is right, or vice versa, because my change of heart, the same way that I learned, my change of heart, is the same way I can learn something else.
Speaker 1:so I'm not gonna put a I got you, but we gotta that's what I've been telling you gotta try to give the short version of things because we trying to cram it in.
Speaker 4:I don't have a, I can't give a. I'm sorry but I apologize for that. But you know, I think the short version is always what makes it just be okay. You know, if you don't explain exactly what your stance is, then I think that it just goes to be okay. Then I think that it just goes to be okay.
Speaker 4:And I'm not just, you know, I would like to show why I say this. You know, we could say a million times that the sky is blue. And then there's people that can say, well, it's this shade of blue or whatever. So that argument is that you're not giving the reason why you say it's this shade of blue and that's where the lost things happen. And then, just like you know, we always say we say okay, wow, I never looked at it this way, I never looked at it that way. It's like religion. A lot of times we look at something because the way we were taught, but then when we step back and look at it for ourselves, we say, wow, I didn't realize it that way and that could have maybe, possibly happened with Mellie Mel. But the signs of it are not that. The signs of it is he still believes what he said in the beginning, but he got paid to say something else.
Speaker 1:Of course I'm glad you said that, because that's exactly. I don't know if the guy gave him money or whatever, but he threw him a lifeline because he said this is why I wanted to continue to play and we got to. I want to play and we got to get out of here because we've been up here, wow, well, I have. Anyway, let me, let me play this. He's going to admit to this and if you can read through the lines, listen, listen, hold on.
Speaker 9:So, so the fact that if you've got two different sides arguing about about the culture of hip-hop, you didn't even say none of the bronze guy's name, like all this, we shit, like you, french, who's all the we? First of all, whoever's speaking about that, you wasn't even there. I'm there. I'm 16, 17 years old. I'm looking at herping them. If you want to talk about culture and have it being beneficial for somebody, then why, why, why, why am I supposed to benefit her? Why, why you can't ask, answer somebody, ask somebody that was there. You're just going to take it upon yourself. Oh yeah, well, you know, so-and-so started the culture. At the end of the day, the people, the people wasn't even really behind hip-hop like that.
Speaker 9:You, you want to know who was behind hip-hop in the very beginning was behind hip-hop, that's, who was in the parties and you had a couple of people from the outer boroughs and they came in, but the whole thing happened in the Bronx. This whole conversation is supposed to benefit the true founders and builders of hip hop, but you never even asked them. Did you ask Herc? Did you ask Biggs? Did you ask Flash Flash? What do you think? Foundational black Americans? We was Afro-Americans, probably back then we wasn't even. It was no foundational black. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, so you heard that.
Speaker 1:You heard that. Now he goes on later on. I don't have that clip up here, but he goes on later on to say, well, joe is my man, that's my nigga and this and that, and he calls me to come over here and he takes care of me. He admitted that. So this is why you doing that. I thought. I thought that clip was going to have it, but it didn't. But that's what that's. You know, anybody can go look this up, but that's what he was saying.
Speaker 4:And yeah, so, so, yeah, faye, so, um, man, I don't you know and you know, you said, notice, he said, he said he mentioned Biggs, but he didn't mention Bam Bada yeah, yeah, yeah, and that was another thing.
Speaker 1:Real, if we can go through that real quick. Bam Bond has been raising his head lately and making statements and people have been talking to him. I don't know why that dude shouldn't even have a voice at all. If those allegations are true and I had been hearing about that I'm way on the other side of town, on the other side of the city, and I was hearing about this dude when I was in high school, about his behavior. So I'm trying to figure out. Why is he even talking? You should be banished, banished from the annals of hip-hop history. You should be banished. Now, I'm not from the Bronx, I didn't grow up in the Bronx, but I'm saying that If what you've done, if what they said you've done, was true, you shouldn't be talking at all.
Speaker 4:And you have to understand. This is where you have to realize that people go with the in-craft. So the same thing applies. If the Knicks are winning and you know they're doing their thing and people are talking about, oh, the Knicks are so great, and you say, oh, I'm a Knicks fan, I'm a Knicks fan, yes, I go for the Knicks. And when the Knicks start losing and then people say, oh, the Knicks. And when the Knicks start losing and then people say, oh, the Knicks, or whatever, that same person will say, oh, I never liked the Knicks anyway, I never do, you know, and they'll go to that and that's the same thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they call it jumping the bandwagon. Jumping the bandwagon.
Speaker 4:Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what we used to call it.
Speaker 1:We used to call it jock riding right, jock, ride, jock riders.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, and that's what we used to, you know so that's what it is right.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I know it's so much more, it's so much more, but we have time man, you know what.
Speaker 4:You know what we do. You know every time we get together we can go for hours but I heard um.
Speaker 1:You was on um, you was up there with um the scorekeepers, you was on their podcast and I watched that broadcast. Y'all chopped up a lot of game, y'all kicked a lot of game. Who are those cats, man?
Speaker 4:uh, basically they just came out of nowhere. I know they used to do scores for sports and you know they've been calling me and you know, because they watch our videos, you know you are 100% right. You told me that a lot of people have watched my videos and a lot of stuff is scared out because of my videos, and so that's just one arena of people that watch my videos, my videos been out for 15 years.
Speaker 1:Man, I'm tired of talking to you. I ain't gonna tell you no more. I ain't tell you nothing, no more, cause you don't listen to me. You won't think I know what.
Speaker 4:I'm talking about. I always listen to you. I always listen to you.
Speaker 1:I ain't talking to you, no more, I ain't talking to you no more. I be on these streets every day because this is what I do. I know what's going on. I listen to God.
Speaker 4:I listen to you. I don't know why you think I don't listen.
Speaker 1:I'm listening to dudes from the West Coast. I'm listening to cats from over here on this side, cats in the South, people in the South, and I heard your name buzzing around quite a few cities, but I ain't going to tell you no more. I ain't going to tell you no more cause you ain't listening to me. I don't know what the hell?
Speaker 4:you can never say that I didn't listen and I don't listen and I just admitted it, but every time I tell you something but every time I tell you something, you be like wow, what, oh, wow, what the hell you thought I was talking about?
Speaker 8:what do you thought I was talking you? What do you thought I was talking about? Just be popping my chops.
Speaker 4:It's hard, it's really hard to recognize things when it comes as far as you know, because I know the truth. I know the truth. You know because I know the truth, I know the truth and you know. One thing you can say about the truth is if you stand your ground on the truth, your story doesn't change. If you notice all of these people, the stories change. So that meant that the truth wasn't there from the start.
Speaker 1:Get ready to blow out of here and you want to come back up, man, and go into it, and we started something from the scratch, or whatever. You can do that.
Speaker 4:Whenever you're ready. Whenever you're ready, brother, you know you always. I'm always there for you, man, no matter what you.
Speaker 1:all you have to do is call me and I'm there for you, we're going to ride out, we're going to ride out and I'm going to give him a little brand new man, face to the God, face to the God.
Speaker 2:Hey yo, there go, that brother Graham Poole.
Speaker 4:Heard that brother got nine Peace and blessings from DJ.
Speaker 1:Faze, that's right. Faze, stay on the line.
Speaker 2:I'll be right with you I like, I like, I like, I like Outro Music.
