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Between the Streets and the Sheets: A Raw Look at Culture, Crime, and Reparations

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Speaker 1:

peace, peace, peace. And welcome back to freeman's affairs Freedmen's Network. I'm your host, vaughn Black Aaron Vaughn Black, that is to be correct, and out of the gate. We want to thank you for tapping back in with us this morning, even though we're a little late today. Well, actually this afternoon we're very late, got a late start today and we apologize for that. Sometimes things come up and you have to take care of that, but we're still here. We're still here and we're dealing with knowledge, build and that manifest born in the mathematics Right. Knowledge is consciousness or awareness. Knowledge is consciousness or awareness. Build, destroy is not necessarily a positive and negative. It can be in some instances, but it is to construct or deconstruct. That's what happens with build, destroy and for anybody who can think they may be able to build something or deconstruct something without proper knowledge and awareness, try it and see how far you get.

Speaker 1:

This is why it goes in a mathematical order that in that way because you must have the awareness and knowledge first in order to construct or deconstruct something. And then, when we go to the 18th degree in the 140, the question was asked what is the duty of a civilized person? The question was asked what is the duty of a civilized person? And the answer was to that question to teach civilization to people who are savage. Teach them civilization, righteousness, the knowledge of themselves, the science of everything in life, love, peace and happiness. The science of everything in life Love, peace and happiness and this is what we try to do up here at the Freemans Network is to bring love, peace and happiness.

Speaker 1:

But sometimes things we have unhappy situations, and we're going to touch on that because this three weeks ago and this was just out of pure oversight that I didn't comment on on this particular situation of the Isley brothers, I totally, totally overlooked it unintentionally and I apologize for that. And he was very pivotal in our culture as far as providing the soundtrack to music to a lot of our lives. As you know, back some months ago we did the tribute to Frankie Beverly, who was very instrumental in a lot of the soundtracks of a lot of our lives, but same here with Chris Jasper. Let's see, can I get a little bit for that story, hold on.

Speaker 5:

Good morning everyone. All right, we start out with a little bit of sad news this morning. Singer-songwriter Chris Jasper, known for shaping some of the Isley Brothers' greatest hits, has died at the age of 73. I want to keep you here, laying next to me, sharing our love Between the sheets. I mean, that is a vibe. Jasper helped write, produce and arrange several of the legendary R&B group singles, including For the Love of you, fight the Power in Between the Sheets. In a family statement on Facebook, the family says Jasper joined the Isley Brothers in 1973 and is credited with helping them transform from a vocal trio into a self-contained six-member R&B funk group. His songwriting talent and expertise on keyboards and synthesizers became the cornerstone of the group's signature sound. Two years later, jasper embarked on a solo career and launched Gold City Records, where he released 17 albums, including four gospel albums. His breakout hit Superbad encouraged education and literacy, a theme he was passionate about his entire career. Jasper was diagnosed with cancer back in December of 2024.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so that's the ironic part that our brother joined. He was a brother-in-law to the Isley brothers, the original group, and he joined them in 1973. And ironic, ironic he died at the age of 73. Yeah, and um that. Once again, we apologize up here for not bringing that story. It was just the oversight and it was unintentional. And, moving forward, we're gonna move to another sad situation that we have to report on before we go any further. Let's get that story in here.

Speaker 8:

Hold on just a second out of car wash in forest hill just outside of fort worth. Now this is a scene that is still very active at this point as dozens have come to see it unfold. Fox force alex boyer joins me now with the latest on this Alex.

Speaker 9:

Hi Hannah. You know we've been here all day long and so far Forest Hill police have yet to provide us with any additional information. According to MedStar, though, two people were killed in a shooting at this car wash behind me, and a family member tells me that it was a man and his five-year-old daughter. Take a look. That same relative provided me with this picture of Chucky Smith and his young daughter. I told her birthday was just yesterday. The two were reportedly at this Slappies Express car wash located off I-20 and Forest Hill Drive shortly before 11 am when they were fatally shot. Family and friends were visibly distraught as they arrived at the scene of folks leaning on one another for support. I spoke to Smith's aunt, who is desperate for answers.

Speaker 4:

All we know is that he was doing the car, cleaning the car out, and somebody came through shooting and killed him and the baby. He was a good kid, y'all he was he didn't bother nobody, he didn't. Him and that baby.

Speaker 9:

Sky4 captured part of the crime scene from up above. You can see a red Dodge Challenger with its doors open being processed by investigators. Red Dodge Challenger with its doors open being processed by investigators. A neighbor told us that she heard between 15 to 20 gunshots. Fort Worth and Mansfield police officers are here assisting with crowd control and at this point again, we have limited information from Forest Hill Police. The police chief told us briefly by phone that this was still very much an active scene and that he would be putting out a press release later on. We're still waiting for that, so at this point we don't know if they have any persons of interest, anybody in custody or a motive for this deadly encounter. Hannah.

Speaker 8:

Looking for some more answers there. All right, alex, appreciate your work there. Police are still working leads and evidence after a father and his five-year-old daughter were murdered in Forest Hill just south of Fort.

Speaker 6:

Worth. We know from surveillance images there were at least two attackers. Fox 4's Dionne Anglin has the latest on the investigation tonight. Dionne.

Speaker 11:

Heather Steve a day following the shocking double murder of father and his daughter. The police investigation continues and now city leaders, local community leaders are sounding off in outrage. And there is this. These are still images from surveillance video obtained by TMZ. There's a view of a victim, ronnie Sibley, in bright colored clothing, running across the parking lot of the car wash and two men chasing him. Parking lot of the car wash and two men chasing him. Seconds later, cars speed away and Sibley a rap music artist who goes by, lil Ronnie, lay dead near his vehicle, gunned down His five-year-old little girl, armani Sibley, who was still inside that vehicle, also killed by gunfire. Our own Sky 4 video shows that crime scene on Monday, with markers placed by a slew of shell casings from the gunfire. Today, elected officials from Forest Hill, fort Worth, came together with faith leaders and advocates against gun violence to issue a message to the community.

Speaker 1:

We always talk about healing and making a change and wanting to see a change.

Speaker 12:

when moments like these happen, let's stop the knee-jerk reaction and let's make sure we're working continually to make sure that a family don't have to deal with this type of tragedy.

Speaker 11:

Phil police said earlier they would give an update on the case. They later canceled that and now the chief says that there could be more information to come tomorrow. On Wednesday Now, five-year-old Armani was a part of a local cheerleader group, safari Sports. That group has issued a statement expressing they are devastated and praying for the family. The community support continues. An online fundraiser has donations thus far totaling more than $27,000.

Speaker 6:

A manhunt is underway for two capital murder suspects who killed a father and daughter in Forest Hill. Good evening, I'm Steve Vigor. Police say 24-year-old Adonis Robinson and 21-year-old Jacoby Russell are responsible for shooting and killing a local rapper, Ronnie Sibley, and his 5-year-old daughter Monday at a car wash. Fox 4's Dionne Anglin has the latest from police Dionne.

Speaker 11:

Hi there, Steve. The police chief here in Forest Hill says the search is on for the two men responsible for this double murder. The chief also called them cowards. Two capital murder suspects are now identified and subjects of a manhunt.

Speaker 13:

They're scared, they're cowards, they're hiding.

Speaker 11:

They are 24-year-old Adonis Robinson and 21-year-old Jacoby Russell, both of Fort Worth. Investigators say the two are the gunmen captured by surveillance cameras at a car wash Monday during the ambush and double murder of music rap artist Ronnie Sibley and his five-year-old daughter Armani.

Speaker 13:

We have public enemy number one, Adonis Robinson, who is also a registered sex offender. Public enemy number two, Jacoby Russell, who's on the run Public records show.

Speaker 11:

Robinson was arrested in 2019 and later convicted for the violent assault of a woman who was walking along a trail near Marine Creek Reservoir. Forest Hill police will not speculate on a motive in the double murders, nor will they say if or how the suspects and victims are connected. Pointing out, the Texas Rangers are the lead agency in the investigation.

Speaker 13:

Based on the music industry that he's a part of. It is all part of the investigation and, like I said earlier, we're in a fact-finding base. Everything that's being put out is being reviewed and analyzed by the Texas.

Speaker 11:

Rangers. We know from surveillance images obtained by TMZ that Sibley was chased on foot through the car wash parking lot before he was shot. Police say it's unclear if Robinson and Russell could be hiding out in the Metroplex. However, they are the subject of a nationwide be on the lookout alert.

Speaker 13:

They are dangerous, they are armed and we need you to please call 911 and let our police officers respond and take appropriate action.

Speaker 11:

Now we asked the police chief if there was a vehicle description to go along with this search. The chief let us know that the vehicle used during the double murder is already recovered. He would not say where that vehicle was found.

Speaker 8:

The manhunt continues for the second of two suspects accused of murdering a father and his five-year-old daughter at a car wash. One suspect in the Forest Hill shootings was arrested yesterday in Southeast Texas. Fox 4's Dionne Anglin is following the developments in this case.

Speaker 11:

Dionne Hannah not many details, but authorities do confirm the one arrest and say they are working many leads hoping to apprehend the second suspect. Forest Hill double murder suspect Adonis Robinson is in custody, with the Texas Rangers Police revealing he was captured Thursday in Livingston, texas, about 75 miles northeast of Houston. Details surrounding how 24-year-old Robinson was tracked down are still unclear. Fort Worth police have acknowledged we assisted on the arrest efforts. A second suspect, 21-year-old Jacoby Russell, is still on the run. Investigators identified Robinson and Russell Wednesday, saying both are responsible for the murders of Ronnie Sibley, whose rap music stage name is Lil Ronnie, and his five-year-old daughter Armani. The ambush shooting that left behind dozens of shell casings played out Monday at a car wash in the 6500 block of Forest Hill Drive. Investigators say they recovered the vehicle the suspects used during the murders. They would not reveal where it was found Following Robinson's capture. The Forest Hill Police Department noted the arrest results from relentless investigation and coordination. The investigation remains ongoing as we work to bring the second suspect, jacoby Russell, into custody.

Speaker 11:

I reached out to a family spokesperson for a reaction for their reaction to Thursday's arrest. The response they are not yet ready to make any comment. That's the very latest. Live, hannah, back to you.

Speaker 10:

Police confirmed that they have arrested the second suspect in this week's double murder in Forest Hill. 21-year-old Jacoby Russell is being held in the Tarrant County Jail without bond. He was booked for capital murder as well as previous charges. Late this afternoon Police say Russell and 24-year-old Adonis Robinson killed 30-year-old Ronnie Sibley and his five-year-old daughter Armani. Both were shot at a car wash on Monday. Robinson was captured yesterday in Livingston, texas, that's northeast of Houston.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, oh man, oh, wow.

Speaker 1:

I let that play for a little bit because the investigation was continuing and the stories were continuing, so I let it play until they caught the last guy, the Jacoby Russell cat. These alleged killers One of the guys I don't know which one, I'm not clear which one one of them left a identification inside the car that they pulled off in. They left the scene of the incident and one of them left an ID. I guess it was frantic by then. I want to say that they called these guys, both of them public enemies in this manhunt, right, and that was because of the five-year-old baby that was killed in this incident. And you know, your heart just bleeds for the family, for that, for the child. And also I want to say this, I want to say this, and also I want to say this. I want to say this this seems like it wasn't no, just spur of the moment happened, or two guys got, a couple of guys got into. You know these guys probably knew each other. You know the shooters and the victim. They probably knew each other. I don't know if it was some kind of beef. It's not clear, and the investigators are not saying what the reason for the shootings were. My thought would be right now, in this premature analogy, is that it's the street. The street happens, the streets happen and unfortunately, two people lost their lives the father and, of course that, that little, sweet, beautiful little baby. If y'all seen the pictures of her and it just breaks your heart that this had to happen, this, this way. And these young men these are young men in their 30s, late 20s and 30s uh and it's, it's just a waste. I don't know what happened if there was a beef or or you know, you just don't. To the family of the little girl and her mother and the rest of the family Condolences. And you know, you got the other side to it where they alleged shooters. These were young men also and I would hope that they didn't know that the child was in the car and you know they, they was just trying to kill this, this other young man, and that's a tragedy within itself, that incident, but I would, I would hope that they didn't intend to kill that child, even though they intended to kill him. You heard somebody, a witness, say that it was. They heard 15 to 20 shots and they chased this, this young man, across the, across the car wash. You could see the video of him running. So it was something. It was something previously in on on the stove brewing that caused this deletion. I should say it's homicide and yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, unfortunately, we have to move on. We have to report these things, as heartbreaking and sad as they are. We have to report this.

Speaker 1:

But let's try to make things a little bit lighter and we're going to go to a, as I said, uh, last year, this time I started a, a, um, a, a segment of the program that I said I was going to continue, and it is called the. I coined it, the, the, the culture session, the culture session. For right now, that's what I had originally coined it and I've gotten away from that over the last year. But we want to start getting back to that where we start to recognize people from our lineage, our past heroes and our great ones, and we want to pay homage to them. So we had to bring you the news of the passing of brother um chris jasper, and then the shooting incident there in fort worth, texas. But now, but now we want to flip the page a little bit to a great woman in our culture, and this one touched me because it was close to home. It's right there in Pineville, south Carolina. And let's go to the story. Hold on.

Speaker 7:

The South Carolina Hall of Fame was founded in Myrtle Beach in 1973 to recognize and honor contemporary and past citizens who have made outstanding contributions to South Carolina's heritage, history and progress.

Speaker 12:

In the early 1920s, for many South Carolinians living in Pineville and the surrounding countryside, finding adequate health care was a challenge due to its virtual non-existence. One courageous woman would single-handedly answer that challenge, becoming their angel in twilight, changing health care in Berkeley County forever. Maude Evelyn Callan was born in 1898 in Tallahassee, Florida. One of 13 sisters, she was orphaned at the age of six and raised in the home of her uncle, Dr William Gunn, Tallahassee's first black physician. She studied nursing at Florida A&M University and Tuskegee Institute in Alabama. In 1923, she was called to Pineville, South Carolina, as a medical missionary, creating makeshift clinics wherever she could. Maude Callen was one of only nine nurse midwives in South Carolina at the time.

Speaker 15:

Ms Callen was very instrumental in bringing health care to this area. For some people she was their doctor.

Speaker 16:

Very important to the whole community. She was everybody's friend, helping everybody, giving you a free shot, what you couldn't pay for. She was more than just a nurse. She was a doctor too, Because you didn't have to go to the doctor after they left her.

Speaker 15:

She was not only a nurse, she was a doctor. A lot of people that couldn't go to the doctor in San Spiegel, ms Marge Callen was our doctor.

Speaker 12:

In 1936, maud Callen joined the Berkeley County Health Department as a public health nurse, providing vaccinations and examinations, keeping records on children's eyes and teeth and training midwives.

Speaker 17:

I've always said that she's the mother Teresa of Berkeley County because she gave so much.

Speaker 15:

She trained a whole lot of midwives that helped others. Her legacy was passed on. I am a product of one of her midwives Me and my brothers and ancestors. I probably was Mark Callen's midwife.

Speaker 18:

I do remember my grandmother just telling me the night in which my mother went into delivery. It was like, I guess, a little chaos there, but my grandfather went I don't remember if it was horse and buggy or with a truck and picked up one of the local midwife that she had trained In 1951, Life magazine published a 12-page photo essay by prize-winning photographer Eugene Smith.

Speaker 12:

This article generated thousands of dollars in contributions. Nurse Callen would use this money to support a modern health clinic next to her church in Pineville.

Speaker 17:

The article in this magazine really took her out of Pineville. Smith was an award-winning photographer and he captured the essence. When I look at these pictures I see he just captures the essence of the area of the personality of Maude Callan. This is a classic shot here a delivery of a baby, and this is at 5.30 am. The way Smith does this, with the series of delivery, the pain of childbirth, the baby born, the mother comforting the daughter and finally the baby arrives and then Maude looking out holding what looks like a Coke and resting a while after more than 27 hours, these two pages tell a story about a childbirth.

Speaker 17:

Here she has her bag and she has her lantern. She used to carry that lantern around with her because in many places, sometimes when she arrived, she had to have light because they had to go and find the lamp and light the lamp. What's interesting is that shot where she's walking over a branch where the water is high after rain and you had to walk from one puddle, one, a high piece of dirt, to another, then to a log and then to something else before you got over it. That was always the problem, and I know that she had that old Chevrolet or something that she drove and I can imagine that many times she got in bogs because I've seen so many of those cars and they'd have to put hay and stuff under them to get them or rock them out. So it was really an ordeal that she handled so well.

Speaker 16:

This was the first baby she delivered and he now is 86 years old, my brother-in-law.

Speaker 19:

When I was born I was a sick little baby, a little baby. But some people say I ain't going to live, but most of my babies could die. I say, yeah, you ain't going to do it because you swore a little, but I live. I surprised them because I didn't die. I live and I live from then up to now, and Marla Callen was my doctor.

Speaker 12:

Today at Claflin University in Orangeburg, South Carolina, Marla Callen's niece, Julia Dean Satterwhite, is a registered nurse at the Student Health Center. She recalls helping her Aunt Maude at the tender age of five.

Speaker 3:

I can remember a time, even at that young age, her husband was sick Richard Callan we affectionately called him Uncle Dick and she would allow me to give him medicine, his heart medication. I would have to check his pulse. At that young age she taught me how to do it, with this being her alarm clock. I would watch for 60 seconds, count his pulse, and if it was 60 or greater then I could give him the tablet. And that's exactly what I would do, and she would say great job, one day you're going to be a good nurse. And I was like a good nurse. She told me that so many times. I actually believed it and followed in her foot tracks.

Speaker 12:

Maude Callen retired from her clinic in 1971, but continued to serve the community as manager of the Senior Citizen Nutrition Council in Pineville. She delivered meals on wheels five days a week, as shown here in the 1983 CBS News segment On the Road with Charles Caroll. She says she works part-time. Part-time to Maud Callen is from early in the morning until the middle of the afternoon.

Speaker 14:

Miss Carrie, I want you to get your other plate there. I've seen people in need so much and there's so much to be done. I decided within myself that I was going to make some effort in order to help them to live a better life.

Speaker 20:

I can see. I can see in spirituality and the Christian way of life that Maude Callan passed more than just medical help to this area. I have a wonderful congregation of Christian-loving people and I think Maude Callan I know Maude Callan had a lot to do with that.

Speaker 14:

I visited when she did the nutrition center and she was wonderful with those elderly people. She was just phenomenal.

Speaker 3:

I want to always remember her for her kindness. You know, in my neighborhood she did a lot of things for people. And she always said to me don't give to the people that have always give to the needy.

Speaker 14:

She really stepped up to the plate. She had that compassion to deal with people and she saw the need and she didn't let nothing turn her back.

Speaker 3:

Nothing stopped her.

Speaker 12:

Maude Callen died in 1990. It is estimated she delivered between 600 and 800 babies, trained some 400 midwives and brought health care to thousands. To them, nurse Maude Callan was their angel in twilight.

Speaker 16:

She loved people, she would do anything for you and she was just Maude Callum. Amen, amen, yes indeed.

Speaker 1:

Yes, indeed, salute to Miss Maud Callan. She is gone from us. I think they said in 1990 she left us. You know she passed on, she transitioned and yeah, but I thought that was. I thought that was a beautiful story. She wasn't the actual first black midwife. She wasn't. That started the midwife thing officially was recorded in the early 1600s, um, and it was another woman. Uh, I believe her last name was robison robison. And then there was another lady after her named mahoney, her last black woman. Oh, both of them foundational women in mahoney. Now the Robinson woman, I believe, was a freedman. No, she wasn't a freedman. It was too early, early 1600s. She might have been a slave, but this inspired me to do what inspired me to do that little piece on Miss Maude Callan was remember, a few weeks ago I did a piece on Erin Stratton.

Speaker 1:

That was the white woman in Richmond, virginia, that had been arrested and charged for the. She was let me see, let me all these things pop up all the time. And she was let me see, let me X this thing. All these things pop up all the time. Oh yeah, she was charged with abusing the newborns at a Virginia hospital. They had been suffering mysterious injuries out of nowhere and they did the investigation. It was many children. I'm looking at a picture right here with one of the children's father, dominic Hackney, showing an image of his newborn son, noah, on his cell phone. The infant wears a brace on his broken left leg. This is what this woman was doing.

Speaker 1:

So that story has been sticking in my craw for weeks since I reported on it and I've been checking, you know, keeping tabs on the story. Now she's bonded out Since then she has bonded out. So she's walking around now she's out on the lawn. She's still going to court, I would um surmise, and I'm gonna keep a close eye on that and see where where the case is gonna go.

Speaker 1:

But the you know, the reason why I'm bringing this up is not only that story but the vitalities of black women, that that that don't make it through birth. You know, giving birth, the rates of fatalities as opposed to white women, and there's something wrong. See, this is why we got to get back, we're going to have to get these kind of things back, these knowledge of how to do these things. You know, this has come to. We have midwiveswives because a lot of our people starting to really with all of the health consciousness and the the healthier living, we're not trusting the medical field. We're not trusting the medical industry anymore, the doctors in there. Then you can't even go to the hospital to give birth to your child because these people, wicked people like this, trying to break their bones and abuse them and hurt them and in some cases may even kill the infant, the newborn. So we getting away from conventional medical industry, the pharmacy, they, you know our people.

Speaker 1:

We're suffering from high blood pressure, diabetes and obesity and all this stuff and it's the food that's killing us. So a lot of people starting to see getting health conscious. They're getting away from. We still love our soul food, but we looking for. We are looking for healthier or better ingredients, better ingredients that won't keep us sick. You understand, because what happens after you so long are eating the same way sooner or later you're going to be taking medicine and your medicine will be your food Instead of your food being your medicine. Your medicine, your food. So we don't want that. We want our food to be our medicine, because the food is actually supposed to heal you and make you whole and nourish you. So we want to get back to that. But that's what inspired me that story about, about that woman in Richmond, virginia, the nurse that was breaking the bones and abusing the newborns. That and the fact of the fatality rate of black women giving birth in these hospitals and we are not trusting the medical industry anymore. A lot of our people, you know, even in education, a lot of people want to homeschool their kids, so we're getting away from the system. Family. And that brings me into to the last story, last thing we're going to cover here today because we're going to get out of here real soon. But anyway, right here in the state that I reside, in, new York State, let me get a bed back in here.

Speaker 1:

The New York, new York State, has a reparations commission put together by Governor Kathy Hochul I believe that's how you pronounce her name, hochul, right, and I got to tell you family what's happening is it's a waste of time, the way that it's currently ran. Now you've seen what happened back in the summer with the California Reparations Commission. There they waited to the 11th hour and then they crashed, they crashed it out, they crashed it out. The bill didn't even get to the floor to for a vote and it was just a recommendation. After a year too long study, a recommendation after a year too long study, and it went to the. It was supposed to go to the floor for a vote, to go up to Gavin Newsom, and it never even made it to the floor because of those, those legislators, the black caucus legislators there, they crashed it out at the 11th hour at the behest of Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 1:

So here in New York, here in New York city, well, new York City, well, new York State, we have a reparations commission that are full of foreigners. They're black people, but they are not freedmen, they are not FBA and people. Why y'all making such a big? Because we have to. These people cannot represent us. They have. They should not be in our reparations discussions. They should be on the sidelines with their support. If they're not going to support, okay, fine, still stay on the side, do not get involved. And this is by design family, because they know these people are not going to do the right thing Because they have. Let me bring up my man. Let me bring up my man. I'm going to first let y'all hear my man, devon Spit. I was trying to get this on last week's program. I couldn't get it, but I'm going to let you hear it now, but I'm going to let you hear it now. I'm going to let you hear it now. Hold on, I'm going to bring it in here.

Speaker 21:

Workshop educating the legislators and the public on how to get reparations correct and constitutionally sound. There seems to be some confusion about when we talk about who we are and where we came from. I want to be very, very clear. Those families whose ancestors were enslaved and emancipated in the United States of America are indigenous to the United States of America. By 1850, our families were multi-generational Americans, though we have ancestors who are African-Americans of Africa.

Speaker 21:

It becomes a misnomer and a tool and term of erasure because everybody with melanin is African-American in the United States of America. And so what has happened is that this bill has become a racial justice bill, and racial justice is not reparations, and so we cannot talk about correcting harms when the bill inflicts another harm. And so, after the event in Queens in December, commissioner Lurie Daniel favors to the public video where she talked about getting into the legislation, understanding it, so you can know what the commission is responsible for and what the legislators are responsible for. So I did just that, even though we did that the entire time when we advocated for this bill to be vetoed so it could become constitutionally sound. And so in the duties portion of that bill, it does ask and implore this commission study a race yeah, that was my man, divine spitting.

Speaker 1:

That was the end of that little clip. Um, I don't have any more. I don't think of divine, let me see. No, I don't have any more of that. Uh, that was uh, that was up in rochester couple of weeks ago, about a month ago. That was up in Rochester, new York. They had it here. I didn't make that one.

Speaker 1:

I was at the one in December that our brother spoke about and remember I had Divine up here. I had him up here and we had a discussion back in January, but that was him spitting right there. But anyway, anyway, now I last night I was tuned into Afro Elite. I was tuned into Afro Elite and here's some of we're going to now. This was this live. He did a live panel with Sister Brooke and Sage here from New York City. Sage, I think, is from Harlem, I believe he's from Manhattan somewhere, and Sister Brooke is over here in Brooklyn with me. Now she's a spitter boy, she can spit and I'm going to see if I can play a little bit of that. But I was. She was on afro elite's uh program last night on his youtube channel and they had a panel. And let's tune into some. I'm gonna be skipping around, so please be patient. I'm gonna skip around and we can do, and then after this, we're gonna get out of here hang on.

Speaker 22:

It's an it's. It's about whether we need we need to put pressure on the legislator. That is why I compiled this list. To these the legislators for the bill, the sponsors, the co-sponsors I added the lead sponsors of HR 40 on the one for that one, just like Ayanna Pressley and Corey Booker, and things like that. And then so there's about there's quite a few legislators that co-sponsored the bill. So it's way more than since I might say I just sent all three. There's definitely more than three. Just hit view, all at the bottom there's quite a few legislators.

Speaker 22:

So my vision is for the Democratic registration numbers to tank right. So let's say they go from I don't know how many registered voters they have in the country, but let's say it's 2 million, I don't know. Let's say they have 2 million registered voters. I want, in the next few months, for that to go down like by half you know what I mean Like or at least by 44 million. You know what I mean Like 44 million of us. We need to, you know, pull away from them. So, um, I would like to see their numbers be dramatically reduced because of us de um unregistering from the democratic party, then while it's simultaneously while we-unregistering from the Democratic Party, then while and simultaneously while we're unregistering from the Democratic Party, that these legislators are receiving emails, because most of these are Democrats, we know that right. So, while the Democratic Party is tanking, they are receiving emails about how unconstitutional this bill is and HR 40 is, and so that will send a message now I'm going to pause it right there and then we're going to skip to something else.

Speaker 1:

We're going to continue and then we'll skip to something else. But what she's talking about? Family now, this is a call to action that I'm asking you, who come up here every week, who listen to me, this is a call to action from your brother, from your warrior Von Black, up here. I'm asking you, all of you who listen to me, I don't care if you're here in the United States, you're in Britain, wherever you're at. There is a call to action if you go to changeorg online petition that we have generated that. Well, sister brooke put it together. She's generated a petition, an online petition to to petition this on unconstitutional bill. Because, uh, what is it here? Um, excuse me for the noise, it's um changeorg and the petition is if you type in the search bar, the petition is demand replacement, replace unconstitutional bill A7691. That is bill A7691 and replace it with a constitutionally sound bill. That is the petition.

Speaker 1:

And they set up an email where all you got to do is hit the button. Now, family, a lot of times we ask our people to. You know, you hear the YouTubers on their channels and they're saying hit the likes button, hit the thumbs up on your way in and, you know, hit the subscribe button. And sometimes it's so hard getting people do that. Now, the bigger influencers they can. Whatever they ask, they get it right away because people they're very influential, they have big followers and big platforms. We doing the best we can up here to do our part and I'm asking all of you, I'm asking all of you who listen to this program go to changeorg, sign the petition. Right, I signed a petition and I also emailed. The email is already written out. She did a this. Sister Brooke did a masterful job setting everything up. All you got to do is hit the button. You don't even have to type nothing. You just hit the button and these people going to get the emails. They already. The last time I looked they was almost at 300 and they need about 250 more for the campaign to be effective. Hopefully we can get a couple of 30,000 more emails and get it up there to these legislators to tell them that this bill is not right and once again, that is Bill A7691 for the new york state reparations. Please, all of you I'm gonna say it again go to changeorg. It's all. Everything is set up. If you go to afro elite's youtube channel and watch the uh the panel from last night, it's a three-hour program but they, they repeatedly set the link up. They repeatedly set the link up and you can go there and get the link. But I'm telling you what it is right here. I'm telling you what the link is. It's on changeorg.

Speaker 1:

I went in there today. I didn't do it last night. I was too tired to um. I had other stuff going on after the. It was a long three-hour. I had other stuff going on after. It was a long three hour stream. It was a three hour live stream and I was so tired and I still had some things. I had some work I had to do, so I didn't. I couldn't do it last, but I did it today. I did it first thing today.

Speaker 1:

I came in, came into office here and I got busy with the emails and all it was the emails already written out. Now you can customize your own email If you want to add something, a little spice to it. You know you don't want to be unprofessional and use foul language or anything like that, but the emails are already written up. Emails are already. All you got to do is hit the button under each legislator that it goes to and the email goes right to them. So that's what we're trying to do flood them with the emails and let them know. They on notice already, but you understand. And also we're calling for all of the FBA and the freedmen. We're calling for you to.

Speaker 1:

If you are registered democratic, if you're a registered democrat, you can still vote. You vote for whatever you want, you vote your interest. But we're asking the freedmen FBA foundational black Americans we here asking the freedmen FBA foundational black Americans we here on the grassroots are asking you to unregister from the Democratic Party and register as a non-party independent. And in my thinking, because that's what I am, I'm not registered to any party. I'm an independent. I'm registered as an independent voter. I'm not tied to any party. I vote on policies. I don't vote on party or candidates, I vote on policies.

Speaker 1:

It's like that old thing in the old west they used to say a hired gun. That's, that's what. That's how I look at this thing. But anyway, like I'm saying family, we want to really show them what could happen when you play with us. You play with us with the, with the California reparations thing.

Speaker 1:

You've seen what happened in the general election. Vp Harris got washed. Kamala Harris, kamala or Kamala whatever her name is that chick she got washed and it was because of a lot of black people stayed home and sat the election out and we didn't. A lot of us didn't vote and we want them to know. This is just the start of the gravy train. This is just the start and I left the comment. When I signed the petition, I left the comment. My comment is up there because you can use my comment, you can use other people who commented and send your voice to it, but don't just, don't just sign the petition. Send the email, changeorg. So now that you I talked about that, we want to get back to it, let's let's get back to it.

Speaker 23:

Let's get back to it then at that point they will have to come to us yeah, that's how we get it, that's how we get stuff done that's how we get it done all right, because they're going to come with hat in hand when they realize they right now they think they can wait for whatever reason. They're delusional enough to believe that they can wait us out, just the same way that they thought they they could wait us out with the last election. And we're gonna let them know this isn't a trend that's going to die. This isn't something that was going to die. We're not going to lose momentum, we're not going to slow down, we're not going to compromise. This is the new way forward.

Speaker 23:

The status quo has changed. So you can either fall and completely not be a viable political party at all and that's cool or you can have hat in hand and you can come to the table and say what do I need to do? Let me sign the check. Just let me know what I need to do to get back in your good gracious. Those are your only two options. You know, would they tell us that we got a compromise quote unquote for the lesser of two evils? Well, now we're giving you all the lesser of two evils. You can either do what we say all the way, or you can just not exist anymore. Those are, those are your two evils. You have to deal with it. It's not evil, but to you it's evil.

Speaker 23:

So you know, I appreciate your activism. I appreciate you signing this petition and doing all of this stuff To make sure that people know Family. We got a call to action. We have a mission. We got to make sure that we stay on it. Sage, I appreciate your activism. I also appreciate the fact that you are, you are brother, jason, all y'all y'all are very on it. As far as the hate crime bill OK, because that's something that's very, very important and it shouldn't only be bought up when we have a major incident. You know what I'm saying. It shouldn't have to be where you got a peyton gendron running into, because we also got to talk about that. Happened in new york too, uh, where the the shooter came into um a gruff buffalo, yeah buffalo, wasn't that buffalo new york right?

Speaker 23:

that well, that's the state of new york right upstate, yeah, yeah okay, okay, well, I mean that's, that's still a relevant situation, yeah, and it happened not long ago. That didn't happen long ago. This ain't like the, the, the 1950s or something like that. This, this, not happened long ago. So we can't just talk about a hate crime bill when we have a major situation pop off, like a jordan neely or like another mass shooting or Dylan Roof or whatever the case is. This got to be a consistent thing, because there's so many situations like Jordan Neely that don't go reported, that we just don't know about right, and there's one more thing, um, I don't I'm not exactly sure, but I know, um that there's a lot of talk about this.

Speaker 22:

The next thing we need to work on is the delineation. Well, actually we need to be working on this simultaneously, and I've been working on the reparations a little bit more, but we need to delineate on a state level, state and federal level. That's part of what the bill that the US Freedmen Project put forth. It also talks about us delineating on.

Speaker 1:

Let me explain what she's talking about right there. That's Sister Brooke, that's her, that's her and if I get a chance before we get out of here, I'm going to play her statement at the Rochester hearing. But what she's talking about here. As far as the delineation, I and I talked to Devon about this about a week ago. I talked to him we didn't talk about this when he when he came up on it on the program, when he came on the podcast, but I talked to him about it on the phone about a week ago and we were bouncing things, some things off each other. You know things I'm doing over here and things he's doing over there because he is the chair for the US United States freedmen project. So he I expressed to him I think that we should push for a status a. We already federally recognize status. The freedmen are federally recognized. However, we need a situation somewhat like the five Native American federally recognized tribes. They have what they call cards card carrying federally recognized tribes. They are card carriers and we need something similar like that, where these cards are federally recognized by card carrying people of the Freedmen status and that's what she's talking about here and Devon is working on that and I promised that I would help him in whatever way he needs me. If he wants to come up on here and speak and talk about it, he's welcome. I told him this is his home and he's welcome to come up here anytime, and these are the things that we're working on. Now I'm not going to. I talked to him about some things because I'm going to need some of their help from people like Divine Sage and the Sister Brooke for some things that I'm going to need some of their help from people like Divine Sage and the Sister Brooke for some things that I'm putting together, and I'm not going to talk about them right here with you right now. When they start manifesting, then we'll talk about it. But back to it. Back to it.

Speaker 1:

The audio got knocked out for some reason. Audio's knocked out. I don't know what happened here, but anyway, back to. Oh, let me get the music back back in here anyway. Oh, family, I don't know why does that happen? I don't know if it's this system or what, but anyway, we're gonna get ready, we've been up here long enough and, once again, family, go to go to changeorg.

Speaker 1:

The petition is there. Everything is laid out. Sign the petition. Don't just do that sign the petition and then go, stroll down and go to the email section. Where, where they, where, where it says ledger email legislator, go there, hit the button. All you gotta do is hit the button. Everything is written out. She's written that out already. And, um, we gonna, we gonna get ready and blow out of here, cause we been up here long enough. And um, in the words of Malik, you must respect life, love justice and cherish freedom, and y'all go in peace and keep the peace, and we gonna rock out. We gonna rock out with a little something. You must respect life, love justice and cherish freedom, and y'all go in peace and keep the peace, and we're going to rock out. We're going to rock out with a little something. We're going to rock out with a little.

Speaker 2:

We're going to leave you with a little something, thank you. How is it making you gotta fight the powers that be? Got so many voices Sitting on the scene Giving up, all around me, faces full of pain. I try to play my music this day. My music's too loud. I try talking about it. I got to be run around and when I roll with the punches I got knocked on the ground by all this bullshit going down. Hey, time is truly wasted. There's no getting straight. Smile isn an amazing. We gotta fight the problems that we I don't understand People wanna say those that got the answers Red tape in the way.

Speaker 2:

I can do it easy. That's just half the fun. Now we know Singing about satisfaction Keeps me on the run. I try to play my music. Say, say my music's too loud. I try talking about it. I got the big run around and when I roll with the punches I got knocked on the ground by all this bullshit going down. Oh, time is truly wasted. There's no guarantee. Hey, smile is in the making, wasted. There's no guarantee. Smile isn't making we gotta fight the powers that be. Got so many voices Stayin' on the scene, givin' up all around me, faces full of pain. Thank you.

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