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When Justice Gets Personal: Prison Deaths, Mortgage Fraud, and Black Business Ethics

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Speaker 2:

yo peace and welcome back freeman's affairs radio, the freeman's network. I'm your host, aaron vaughn black. And today, april 22nd 2025, the math wisdom, wisdom is the math for the day, and that brings about culture. It bonds culture, wisdom, wisdom bonds the culture and, right off the rip, let me say thank you for tapping back in and coming to sit with us for a few minutes while we go over some of the stories and concerns of the community. As you heard, as you heard or have been hearing, there's a lot going on and before I get started, before I get started on the actual stories that I'm going to cover, let me say to the Christian world, catholic, christian, let me say condolences to you, whoever's listening, and maybe Catholic, maybe Christian, I don't know Protestant or whatever denomination that you are. Let me, especially to the Catholic world, let me express condolences for the loss of Pope. The Pope, I believe, passed away yesterday. He had been ill for some time and he has expired, and we here at the Freedman's Network send condolences to the entire Catholic world and that's what it is. So but yeah, back to it. Family.

Speaker 2:

We have been dealing with a lot in the past couple of weeks, as you know the incident on April 2nd out there in Fresno, texas, the incident involving Austin Metcalf and Carmelo Anthony, both 17-year-olds, and the twin brother, hunter Metcalf. Around 10 am in the morning on April 2nd, what started out as a verbal altercation ended up heightening to a physical altercation, ended up in a young student losing his life and that was Austin Metcalf and subsequently Camelo Anthony, 17 years old, as I said, was arrested and charged in the incident. Now let me say this before we get really underway here. Let me say this In my opinion this is just my opinion, I'm not saying I'm right I don't think that this incident arised from the matter of race. I don't think it was a racial issue at the core of it. However, it has become a topic of race in these few weeks that this has took place. In these last couple of weeks. It has become a racial issue. The situation coming from a white nationalist propaganda machine and then legacy media has been involved in it and, of course, it was met with staunch resistance from the grassroots in the black community and independent media has been met head on right and pretty much cut off at the knees, but the case is still ongoing. The prosecutors don't have the case on their desk, yet they don't have the files because the investigation is still ongoing. Okay now, as I said, he was charged with murder one and set at a $1 million bail. Since then, on April 14th he had Monday, april 14th he had a bail reduction hearing and Judge Angela Tucker proceeded over that hearing and reduced it to a $250,000 bond and the young man's family was able to get him out. So he is home with conditions. Some of the conditions are he has to wear an ankle bracelet, a monitor and he has to always be in the presence of an adult. This is some of the stipulations to his bond. Okay Now, the family has been going through a tumultuous experience since this whole thing happened.

Speaker 2:

Both families now. Both families. Both families now, both families, family.

Speaker 2:

What I'm trying to express here at the end of the day, at the bottom of all of this, there's no winners here. There is no winners. There's outside elements outside of this thing that are making this thing into something else that it's really didn't start out, at the core of it, and you know, it's just. It has become a thing and this is really unfortunate. But this is what happens Because society has set a certain precedence and a certain tone.

Speaker 2:

So now that the roles are reversed, people are jumping the gun. They're jumping, you know. They're prematurely making analysis and predictions and statements and we just don't know. Now we can assume what happened. We can assume what happened. We can assume some of the stories and rumors that are out, and I'll tell you what I think up here, as early stage that it is the case is in now, I'll share it with you and, for the record, I do not want you to quote me as saying I have the facts, because I don't.

Speaker 2:

I can give my opinion or the way I see how things happened or may have happened, or what I, from my experiences in dealing with criminal justice, what I could see from from certain angles, but it's still, it's not my uh, it's not written in stone. Nothing, I say, nothing, nobody says, until these fact, more facts come out. Right now, this this is how messy this thing is getting hold on. Back in here. This is how messy this thing is getting Hold on. Get the bag back in here. This is how messy this thing is getting the judge, angela Tucker, black woman. She has been receiving death threats because she was the one that presided over the bond reduction hearing and she lowered the bond and she's been getting threats where she had to hire extra security to protect her black woman. So of course you know that brought out the blacks of independence media and the social media crowd and the X-faces and everything has been on fire.

Speaker 2:

So here we go, here we go. Now, you know they had the crowdfunding Give, send Go and the young man was, I think that first week, I think the first week they we, because I donated money to it to help help out, whatever, whether it was the bond or legal fees or whatever was able to raise over four hundred thousand dollars, almost a half million dollars, right, and that has people climbing the walls. Family that has the dominant society at large. They are going bananas behind that. Because now, and for any of you who listen to us up here weekly, who come up here or who support us, if you donated to this young man, to this, to this situation with him, I want you to take your flowers Because and I'll tell you why it's not a celebration because, as I said, keep in mind, as I said, there are no winners. There are no winners in this thing on either side, either family. There's no winners in this thing on either side, either family. There's no winners.

Speaker 2:

What I'm saying to you is that money was raised in a short amount of time the way it was, from people donating five, 10, 20 dollars, 25 dollars, 50 dollars. It didn't come from any big entertainments, any celebrities, any athletes, any million dollar, the black elitists it came from none of them. That money came from people every day, ordinary people like you and I, from the grassroots. That's where it came from, from the grassroots. That's where it came from. You might have had a few people that you know doing rather well. You know they was able to maybe put $500 on it or so, $1,000 on it or so, but for the most part that came from everyday people $5, $10, $20, whatever they could. You got children, children donating because they seeing what's happening and there's a potential. We always look at things as a potential railroading for this young man and this is why the call was so strong. Right, young kid Now. Right, young kid Now. Oh boy, this, this, this thing. I didn't, I did not really want to get up here and talk about this, but we have to. We got to talk about it. So right away, the dominant society, the race hustlers and the haters came out and they started saying, putting out a narrative, that well, the family, they raised the money and they brought a new house and they brought new cars and you got to spend the money. You know Now doing the bail hearing, let me see if I can find a bail hearing. Hold on. Hold on, let me see if I can find it. Let me see if I can find a bail hearing. Hold on. Okay, yeah, here it is. Here's the story here. Let me read the story Now. Keep in mind now they made all these assumptions and put out this false narrative about how the family was spending the money. And let me read a little bit of it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, the 17-year-old charged with first-degree murder in the fatal stabbing of a teen at a Fresco track meet earlier this month has had his bond reduced and will now be on house arrest following a judge's ruling Monday agreed to lower Camillo Anthony's bond from $1 million to $250,000. Anthony will be required to wear an ankle monitor and stay inside his parents' home. If they can post bond, which they did, anthony has been in the Colon County Jail since his April 2nd arrest for allegedly stabbing and killing 17-year-old Austin Metcalf, a Fresno ISD track meet at a Fresno ISD track meet. According to witnesses statements, anthony and Metcalf were involved in a verbal dispute and at one point Anthony pulled out a knife and stabbed Metcalf once in the chest. Anthony complied with officers at the scene. They see that state. They messed it up right there, and this is from CBS. Anthony complied with officers at the scene and was taken into custody. He wasn't at the scene, he had ran away from the scene. While in the police vehicle, anthony reportedly asked the officer if Metcalf was going to be okay and if what he did would be considered self-defense.

Speaker 2:

Now, this is for whoever the youngsters are listening and for you parents that may be listening to this. You have to, especially your boys, your children. Teach them when they have an encounter with law enforcement and they may be detained. Do not say anything. Get your phone call and call your parents or whoever you need to call your guardians or whoever else. You don't talk to the police, not that you're trying to be a wise, you know slick, or nothing like that. You're exercising your right because you're not supposed to say anything to them that can be later on detrimental to your case, and this is why they tell you to stay silent and they're supposed to give you the Miranda Act, so informing you of such rights. Okay now, okay, I read that. Okay, all right.

Speaker 2:

Since his arrest, anthony's family hired defense attorney Bill Billy Clark and Kim Cole, who promptly requested that Anthony's bond be reduced. They put a motion in for him to get the reduction. Carmela Anthony's bond reduction hearing. During the hearing on Monday, anthony's defense attorney questioned the team's father about his character. His father testified that Anthony was an A student. The captain of both his football and track team was an A student the captain of both his football and track team. Anthony's father also told the court that he's the sole provider of their family and couldn't afford the $1 million bond amount.

Speaker 2:

Prosecutors, who only submitted the police report and no witnesses, also questioned Anthony's father during the hearing. They asked about a separate assault involving Anthony on February 4th which was handled internally by Frisco ISD. That was the high school. He wasn't arrested or anything and there was no law enforcement and they had to throw that in there to criminalize him. It was handled by the school, anyway. Prosecutors also questioned why Anthony's family hadn't used the money donated through a fundraising amount account for his son's bond. We do not have access to the money. Anthony's father responded Now that right there kills everything they've been putting out the narrative the family brought a new house.

Speaker 2:

Their family had or. You don't buy a house in a day. The family had already purchased the property and I think it's not even a purchase, I think it's a rental because they had to move from their, from their former residents because of this incident. They were. The family is receiving so much threats and death threats and things like that, so they had to move and the address was doxxed, just like with the judge she has been, her information has been been been, uh, doxxed right. So the narrative was put out they brought a new Escalade, they brought another car. These people already had these vehicles.

Speaker 2:

The father makes money. No, he couldn't afford the $1 million bond, but when he dropped it down to $250,000, he was able to bond and brought the child out. The mother's a stay-at-home mother. This kid comes from a very solid home, good home, both the mother and father there. The mother's a stay-at-home mother I think there's a total of four children in the house and the father's there with the mother. He works, he makes his money and he does good with the mother. He works, he makes his money and he does good. Because the narrative that usually they looked look for and when I say they, I mean the dominant society. What they look for is oh, he's a thug, he's a gang member, he come, you know, his father's going to father around and mother's a way of fear, a Section 8 queen, and she's ghetto and ignorant. And you know, that's the narrative. That's usually what they want to. They feed to the public. Right.

Speaker 2:

Couldn't do that this trip, so they started lying right away and we met them head on. We met them head on with it, told them no, no, you're not gonna put this out, you're not. We met, they met resistance hard, hard. They met, hard resistance on it. Because every platform twitter, instagram, facebook, twitch, whatever youtube we, we was on a bumper, hard we was. We was right there, right there in the trenches with them. Every lie they put out, we combated. Then you had, you had all of the, the um, the black ones, the black bootlicks, the bootlicks, the bootlick crew, yeah, um.

Speaker 2:

Well, I didn't hear vince ellison say anything about it. I heard that his, his, uh, homegirl, april Chapman, she said a little something about it. She didn't get crazy, you know, because usually her and Vince Ellison, they got smoke for black folks, especially for the black church. But anyway, the Jason Whitlocks, the officer Tatum, charleston White Though that bunch, they had plenty to say about this kid. He should be in jail. He shouldn't have got no bond. When you kill somebody, you should be. You're supposed to go to jail when you kill somebody, no matter what the circumstances is.

Speaker 2:

This is what Charleston White say. Right, he said this. I'm a hypocrite. Right, he said this I'm. But you're hypocrite and sometimes Charleston White, a broke clock is, has the correct time twice in 24 hours. So some there has been times I have played some things, some profound things that Charleston White has said. But you know, his thing is his brand, that offensive on the edge, shock jock. Everything he says and does is for shock value. That's how he makes his money. These people don't really believe this stuff. That they saying is Jason Whitlock. Jason Whitlock was called out by Nick Fuentes, called out, called him a token on public. Called out by Nick Fuentes, called out, called him a token In public and all through the internet. Now, all you know, jason Whitlock, big chunky behind, always got smoke for black folks, right?

Speaker 2:

You had nothing, nothing, nothing to say, not one negative thing towards Nick Fuentes, and he's not even a white man. But you know, nelly Fuller told us. Nelly Fuller told us if you want to know something, the truth, from a black person, when you ask them something, sit them in front of a white person and ask them, and you'll get just what it is. They'll hold their head down and they will submit. But you sit them in front of black people, they'll huff and puff and buck up at you and poke their chest out and yell and scream. Sit them in front of a white person, their voices go down. They want to talk about Jesus and God and the Bible, and calmly. You know, nick Francesco, if he wants to talk, we can have a conversation. So yeah, but anyway, anyway, family, let's see if we can, let's see if we can, let's see if we can get some, get some of the story in here. Oh my, I don't know if this is going to be it or not. No, that's not it. Yeah, so OK, we got we. At least we got that that put out. At least we got that put out. At least we got that put out. But yeah, but like I was saying, though, this thing is. They put out lies and lies and lies about the family using the money for all kind of nefarious stuff. And they were talking and we met that and killed it. We just killed it.

Speaker 2:

And salute to Dana with the data. Salute to her. I was on, I was on the other night. I was on the other night on her x space. I joined in her x space. I forget the topic was something about the diaspora, but go look at her thing. I think it was, um, I think it was sunday night, sund, sunday night. Sunday night I got in on her live. I was up there and I said a little something. It was nice. And also salute to our sister, voodoo Doll. Y'all go to Voodoo Doll channel on YouTube and check her out, young sister doing her thing. And we up here at Freemans Affairs Network Radio we absolutely love Voodoo Doll TV. Go check out Voodoo Doll, young sister doing her thing. Man and she be holding it down, she be holding it down.

Speaker 2:

But anyway, back to this thing, family, because we not going to stay long. I'm already up here. The clock says 24 minutes and 35 seconds. So we want to going to stay long. I'm already up here what the clock says 24 minutes and 35 seconds. So we want to get out of here. I don't want to stay long at all, but yeah, that's what's been happening Now. They did have a rally. They did have a rally over, I think on the 19th. That was Saturday the 19th. They call Protect White America group One of the January 6th guys. He's heading the group there. Let me see, can I find it. Let me see, can I find it. Yeah, we got it.

Speaker 5:

We're going to pull it right up here, hold on Month after month, year after year, and I'm tired of the anti-white racism, I'm tired of anti-white hate, I'm tired of anti-white violence. Let's make a stand together now. Let's make a stand together today. I see right now Antifa, hamas, some other massive group of people that's the police are responding.

Speaker 5:

We had to answer the call to God. We cannot sit silent when these type of acts are crushing and killing people. White Americans are living in abject fear. This is tyranny. This is the tyranny our founding fathers warned us about. We are asking the American people do not be silent on this issue.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, family. So you heard that Now in this rally, in this protest, somebody called the Metcalfe father His name is Jeff Metcalf and asked him to speak. They wanted him to speak to the crowd. There was only about two dozen people there at this rally. It was a failure for the public. They think it would be hundreds and thousands of people out there. It was two dozen people out there.

Speaker 2:

Now they did call the father to speak to the audience and the father told them listen, you're part of the problem. He's talking to the founder of Protect White America. He said you're part of the problem and I want you to take my son's photograph, his school photo, off of your website. I don't want to have my family and I don't want to have my family and I don't want to have anything to do with you. Now it could be all cap, but the father has been coming out, as I said, since the very beginning, when this thing first happened, and saying that he don't want people to make this issue of race, because it's not, and I am of that mindset. I don't believe that it make this issue of race because it's not, and I am of that mindset. I don't believe that it started out that way, and I think the more now the police are still doing the investigation. I believe I'm of the mind that the police have to because there's no video or nothing has been released. Now, one thing I want you to keep in mind is that if, now, one thing I want you to keep in mind is that if, if there was any clips or snippets of anything that would point to this Camillo Anthony kid as being aggressive or starting this thing or being in the wrong, they would, they would have been released already. I think what they're doing, because they confiscated a lot of the students phones to see who was filming, and I think they're telling the father that it doesn't look good because from from a couple of accounts that they, these two brothers, these twins, they were the aggressors, they went to this kid because they supposedly quote unquote don't quote me on this, but there's been reports that has has been saying that they are known bullies and they went and tried to bully this kid and it didn't work. Well, this is some of the things that are being said Now. They're still investigating, they haven't released any video, have videos, they have videos, and I'm thinking from my experiences with these kind of things. I'm thinking that the police and the prosecutors are telling the family look, it's not looking good, because the narrative is this Austin was innocent and he shouldn't have been killed, which he shouldn't have been. It shouldn't have escalated to that.

Speaker 2:

My thing is why they didn't if this kid, they said he was trespassing. It started pouring down raining. At this event, the kid, carmelo Anthony, went up under the tent to get out of the rain and it was one of the, the competing schools. It wasn't his school, but and this is what led to the, to the verbal disagreement. And now you know, you had Judge Joe Brown talk about hey, he was, he was trespassing, he was trespassing and stop it, stop it. There was kids under that same tent from other schools that were under that same tent. Were they trespassing also?

Speaker 2:

So we'll get the facts as the case progressed. We'll get the facts. Now here we go, right. There's two of them approaching this kid.

Speaker 2:

Now some accounts, some people are saying that a phone was snatched out of his hand because when they approached him he was on his phone. He was sitting by himself on the phone. They came over to him. I heard one account, one or two accounts, saying that they snatched the phone from him and smashed it. That's a robbery. Okay, that's a felony robbery, especially if it was an iPhone. That's a felony robbery.

Speaker 2:

Now he some statements said. He said touch me and see what happens. Some statements were made and said touch me again and see. So if he said that, that means he was already violated once his personal space. Now there's two of them, two of them right. So let's see where this goes with the self-defense thing. Let's see where this goes. But we got to, we got to move. We got to move Cause I, like I said I want to move quick and I want to, I don't want to keep you here all day. And we got to go to this other story. He, right here in New York state, upstate New York, we prison, another inmate was killed. Now you know, you had a month or two ago you had Robert Brooks. It was about a month, about two months ago Robert Brooks was killed in an upstate prison, upstate New York. And now this story, let's go to it, Hold on.

Speaker 1:

Welcome back here on Live Now from Fox 336 on the East Coast and 1236 on the West Coast. My name is Josh Breslow and I'm here to bring you all of your top stories and live events from across the country and across the world. I do want to get to a developing story that we are following now, as 10 New York prison guards have been charged in connection with the fatal beating of a 22-year-old inmate last month, including two charged with murder. It's the second time a group of correctional officers in that state has been indicted for a death behind bars this year. We are hearing from the state attorney right now providing more information, so let's pop up the audio and listen in All right.

Speaker 6:

Good afternoon everybody also. Good afternoon. My name is Bill Fitzpatrick. I am the Onondaga County elected DA and I have been appointed special prosecutor by the Attorney General, letitia James, to investigate the death of Messiah Nantwee, which, as you know, occurred on March 1st of this year. Today in Oneida County, grand jury reported out a single indictment charging 10 current and former corrections officers with various crimes relating to the death of Mr Nanwe. Six other corrections officers, who have not appeared in court yet, have agreed to cooperate with the special prosecutor, and I have made deals with them. Two of them will be pleading to felonies and four of them will be pleading to various misdemeanors. All defendants, even those that I've made deals with, are entitled to the presumption of innocence. An indictment is only an indictment. It's a set of allegations and there's a lot of work yet to be done in this particular case. I'd like to summarize for you what is in the public record regarding the indictment.

Speaker 6:

As to the events of Saturday March 1st of this year, as you all know, and as Commissioner Marcello is acutely aware, at that time there was a corrections officer strike going on. There was also an influx of National Guardsmen that were present at Mid-State and several other correctional facilities throughout the state of New York At approximately 10.55 am that morning. The people are able to show that all was well in building 21 where Mr Nantway resided. I know that because the corrections officer who was assigned to do rounds on that occasion walked past his room at approximately 10.55 am and there was nothing going on. At about 10.58 am a call went out over the radio at the facility calling for backup. The evidence will show that when the CERT team responded and got there at approximately 11 AM, there was virtually no or minimal effort to determine what was the need for the backup, what the nature of the call was. No weapons were observed and no assault of behavior was observed by the 13 members as they entered building 21. A non-CERT team member, a corrections officer, recorded the last video of Mr Nantwick before the alleged assault and he was no longer able to communicate. That corrections officer exited the room and various 13 members entered. None of them. None of them, to our knowledge at this point, were wearing mandated body worn cameras.

Speaker 6:

Approximately four and a half minutes later, mr Nantwee is removed from his room and taken down three sets of stairs where it is alleged by the grand jury that an additional assault occurred in the stairwell, handcuffed and taken to the infirmary and laid on the floor in a holding cell. An additional assault is alleged to have occurred by the grand jury. An additional assault is alleged to have occurred by the grand jury. Fragments of Mr Nathwee's entrance into the infirmary are captured on one corrections officer's body worn camera.

Speaker 6:

It is not a continuing flow, but there are enough indications to name and identify the individuals involved and some of the things that occurred. Many other corrections officers, apparently intentionally, either turned off their cameras, placed them in an area of concealment or simply looked the other way. Conkle ambulance personnel responded to the infirmary following a call at 1136 AM, at approximately 1147 AM and at that point detected no signs of life in Mr Nantwick. It was determined by the Onondaga County Medical Examiner that Mr Nantwick died from traumatic brain injuries as a result of violent blows to his head, as well as at least 69 other serious blows about his body. No COs required any medical intervention.

Speaker 2:

I can't take it no more. I can't listen to no more. I'm sorry, family, I can't listen to no more. What, what, why was that necessary to do that? Why that many blows to the head and body that? Why that many blows to the head and body? Now this kid is in there doing his time. I was 22 years old doing his big. What's that? What's that? Mid-state, mid-state correction? I've never been to mid-state, um, but I know, I know about it. Why and this is the second one in 2025. We only in April. This is the second incident and a New York State inmate has been murdered by corrections officers.

Speaker 2:

See, this is why I said at the top of the program there's so much going on, man, we can't even keep up with all this stuff. We can't keep. We got, and it's man, we're going to be spread thin With all of these uphill battles we got. We're going to be spread thin. This is why I say we don't have time to worry about nobody else. We have enough on our plates foundationals Friedman talking to you. We have enough on our plates Foundationals Freedmen Talking to you. I don't want to listen to no more of that. I don't want to listen to no more, but we're going to stay with the story. That just hurt me. That was actually the first time I listened to it in length Like that, and it's very disturbing, I should say.

Speaker 2:

Now, letitia James is over this. She's the Attorney General presiding over this incident, but she's in a wee bit of trouble herself there. Yeah, she's in a wee bit of trouble. Let's go to her. Oh boy, oh boy, let me see if I can get her. Wait a minute. Yeah, she's being investigated right now. She hasn't been charged with anything, but she's being investigated for mortgage fraud. Let's go to the story. Hold on.

Speaker 3:

General Letitia James' office is blasting a federal criminal referral, potentially targeting the AG. The Department of Justice is being asked to investigate after the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency claimed that James falsified records for home loans in Virginia. The referral says James listed a Virginia property as her principal residence in 2023, despite holding office in New York. Federal officials also say James misrepresented the number of units at a Brooklyn property and previously listed her father as a spouse for more favorable loans. A spokesperson for James released a statement reading. Attorney General James is focused every single day on protecting New Yorkers, especially as this administration weaponizes the federal government against the rule of law and the Constitution. She will not be intimidated by bullies, no matter who they are. Joining us for a closer look at the referral is legal expert Nicole Branecki. Nicole, thank you for joining us. This referral comes after James launched a civil fraud trial into the Trump organization. Do you anticipate action from the DOJ, including criminal charges? Good afternoon, cindy. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 7:

I think we all remember the big, bold civil fraud case that she brought against Trump and prevailed, and she has built her entire career on exposing deception. So right now it's a very problematic situation for her because she's being accused of the same act that she accused Trump of, and I think there is a high probability that they will go after her. Civil fraud is when you sign a declaration or make any statement to obtain some favorable outcome, some benefits of any type so in this particular case it would be more favorable mortgage terms.

Speaker 7:

If that is proved, then that constitutes civil fraud.

Speaker 3:

So the referral mentions other mortgage fraud cases involving public figures in other parts of the country. Does that precedent hold any weight?

Speaker 7:

Precedents hold weight in terms of federal law. Any weight Precedents hold weight in terms of federal law. So if this is prosecuted as a federal act and these prior acts were also federal then it definitely holds a precedent because it pertains to the same statutes.

Speaker 3:

Now some of the allegations are decades old. Are there any statute of limitations on mortgage fraud cases?

Speaker 7:

Yes, there are statutes of limitations on all types of fraud cases, because time passes and witnesses disappear, documents disappear and memories wane, so there is a statute of limitation. I think that is why that last instance, where she allegedly declared her husband her father, her husband, that was mentioned last in the letter because it's just, I think, inflammatory at this point because it was so long ago.

Speaker 3:

Okay, nicole Brunecki, thank you so much for your insight. Stay with CBS News New York for the very latest, as this story continues to develop.

Speaker 2:

We have a reporter digging into yeah, she's in a wee bit of trouble there, folks. She's in a wee bit of trouble there, folks. She's in a wee bit of trouble there. You know she went after Trump and have made him, got him prosecuted and convicted and well, I don't know if he's convicted of that in that case, but she went after him for the same type of thing with with the, with the real estate thing, but in turnaround. And you now you're being investigated for mortgage fraud. Same thing.

Speaker 2:

You said that no one's above the law for remember her up there at the podium shaking her head, and you know, and see we don't feel we're not standing now. She ran as a friday she ran and did a pressure at, uh, the national, the national action network, without shopping. She went up there that I was repping our shopping and the national action network. She went to them, the mold negroes up there, and held the presser and, um, now you see they it never fails, never fails, never fails. They come down when they get in trouble. They're going to blackity, blackity, blackity, black it up now. Going to black it up now, going to rub it out and let them old senior citizens clap for you and shout for you. That ain't going to help you with this, because you, you weapon, they weaponize the law against Donald Trump and got it and, and, and they were going, and if Kamala would have won that election, they were going to find a way to put him away, to put him in prison. And now, and we could have predict this, if you didn't see this coming, you, you got blinders on. If you didn't see this coming, you got blinders on. If you didn't see this coming, he's going to. It ain't so much of him, but he's the puppet master behind the strings.

Speaker 2:

Because now, the guy that blew the lid off this thing, this guy was a criminal. He was, uh, remember the, the electronics, um, uh, giant on crazy eddie. Well, some of you gonna remember it was back in the 70s. He was, uh, he had those crazy eddie, crazy eddie commercials, eddie, uh, antal was his name, I believe his, his brother. Well, you know, he got out of the country, he went back to Israel and the brother I forget his name, his last name was Antar, but his brother was the one cooking the books for the company, for the electronic company. He was cooking the books, went, got prosecuted, convicted, did his time. Now he works for the FBI and the Justice Department. They seen how good he was and they realized he would be helpful. Now he works for them, and he's the one that blew the lid off of this thing with Letitia James.

Speaker 3:

They sent him.

Speaker 2:

They went and sicked him on her. Go, get him, get him, get him, let's get him. And he got her. Now, whether she gets convicted or anything, that remains to be seen, but they on her bumpers, they on her hard, they on her. Now, family, let's, because we got to move, we got to move, we got to get out of here. We gotta move, we gotta move, we gotta get out of here. Uh, the last thing I'm going to talk about up here before we go is, uh, the, the wallow from from, wallow and gilly podcast, the million hour for game thing. They, um, he just recently did a thing uh, hold on on, let me get it up in here Talking about black business, and he overstepped some bounds. I'll tell you what I think in a minute. Just give me a second to pull it up. Hold on, hold on, let me get it up here. Let me get it in here.

Speaker 4:

Okay, I'm black, I'm black. Nobody gives a fuck about that. Kill that shit. Either you got a good business or you don't. All that shit Don't nobody want to hear that shit. That's a hustle. Support me because I got a black business. Is your restaurant clean? Is the food good? Do you got consistent cooks? Is the material on your shit good? Stop doing that. Oh, you support the white people. No, I support consistency baby.

Speaker 3:

Who the fuck about what color you is? I'm going to spend my money.

Speaker 4:

That's not a paper. I'm going to spend them meals where the fuck.

Speaker 1:

I want to spend it at Brothers poorest.

Speaker 3:

Ferrari lender. I'm going to do what the fuck I want to do while I'm here, but I'm going to tell you one thing I ain't going to be finessed off some black shit.

Speaker 4:

But one thing about it 70% of you motherfuckers is not going to. I'm the fucking fake-ass motivational speaker that taught this dumb shit. I'm the number one nigga in the country. You know why. Y'all seen me come out of the penitentiary.

Speaker 8:

I mean million. I have nothing against Wallow or anybody who agrees with the message. However, I want you to think about black-owned businesses. Black people are not white. We don't have many, many generations of entrepreneurs where we've been doing the same business for 50, 60, 70 years. Like white folks, we don't have access to the same level of capital. It takes time to build black-owned businesses.

Speaker 8:

Now, I would never advocate for anybody supporting a black-owned business that was not doing its best. We know the restaurant needs to be cleaned. We know that the work needs to get done. We know that the customer service needs to be solid. But to say I don't give a F if you're black, that's a problem, because there should be a preference for black-owned businesses that are doing the job properly.

Speaker 8:

Also, we have to understand that white folks ain't supporting black-owned businesses. White people been boycotting black businesses for hundreds of years and black people boycott black-owned businesses. So this idea that somehow we don't care if you're black, well, let me just tell you this Asian people care if you're Asian. Jewish people oh, they care if you're Jewish. White people, they may not care if you're white, but they really aren't going to support your black-owned business if you're black, unless you're making money for them by being the number one nigga in the country, in which case they'll probably give you millions of dollars. So no disrespect or anything like that.

Speaker 8:

But at the end of the day, man, we have to stop sharing the wrong message. If you see a black owned business, that is not where it needs to be, you don't have to give them your money, but you can give them your love. Love don't cost you nothing. It don't cost you nothing to say, hey, brother, I can't support this because you need to clean up the kitchen a little bit better. Or hey, sis, you know your product has these flaws that you need to improve upon. Or hey, man, you know your customer service could use an upgrade. You can invest in black-owned businesses without always having to give money. But to go and openly speak against black-owned businesses when you've got millions of highly inferior white businesses out here, that's the type of self-hatred that we cannot tolerate. That's my two cents Peace.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it Right there. And this is why I like Wallow and them. I like Gilly and Wallow, I like them.

Speaker 2:

Tyreek put out a thing and that made people get on his bumper too. Tyreek put out a post on X saying where they family from. Because when you have Negroes talking like that, see, now you done blew up, now right, and now you in there, I don't give a fuck about that. I don't fuck about that. Stop that shit. I ain't getting finessed by no black because of some black shit. I ain't getting. You know, knock it off with that all. And see we and then we got to be over performative. Why must we always be the performers? You don't see Jewish people talking to he in a room full of other black entrepreneurs he's talking to you. See how he talking. That's the problem I have with it. Some of what he was saying might have been legit. Some of it might have been legit. It's the way you pushing it out there. Why do we feel like we always got to talk down on other black folks Jason Whitlock, all of these, officer Tatum, all of these bootlegs but when the white folks come in the room, you're holding your head down. You're so humble and smiling Hi, how are you? Yes, I'm glad to see you. I'm so glad you made it. Oh, yes, yes, yes, how have you been? How have you been? When you talk to black folks, man, you're raising your voice. You got a scrawl on your face. Why do we have to do that? So, right away, you have a, and when you see a black business, you, you have a notion, a built-in notion, and these, these niggas, ain't shit. You know, they ain't nothing. You got this built-in um thing already, instead of having the thing. You know what these, my folks? Man, let me go ahead see what's happening with it. Let me inquire If it ain't what I think it should be Now.

Speaker 2:

Customer service is very important, very important. You want to have smiles on your face. You want to be polite and courteous to your people who are supporting you and patronizing your business. You want to treat them almost like royalty. I would say so. Yeah, I'm not putting up with no disrespect where I'm spending my money at, or no flimsy service where I'm spending my money, I don't care who it is, and especially and it's even more so when they're not black. I'm spending my money, I don't care who it is, and, especially in this, even more so when they're not black. I'm really hot because I don't want to spend my money with them other folks anyway and on top of that, the customer services is flimsy. Yeah, I'm going to have some very strong, opinionated words about that, but yeah, so so you know he's catching backlash from this.

Speaker 2:

Because you came home, you were selling t-shirts. You said for five dollars. You did. He did about 20 something years in the penitentiary. He came home and got his grind on. He left the streets alone, started grinding, grinding, and this was very commendable. You was buying T-shirts for $5, and you said you were selling them for $20. Who was your customers? Were you selling to Asian people or Spanish people or white people? Were they buying your T-shirts? I guarantee you it was black folks.

Speaker 2:

Now that you've made money, you're making millions now because the Million Doll worth of game podcast is partnered with Barstool Sports. Some white folks have now they back rolling and they sign contracts. It was a three million dollar contract at first. Now I think they redid it and did 25 million. So now you in the money, now you're able to.

Speaker 2:

You've built up a brand and I loved, I love some of this stuff. I played some of this stuff up here on my platform. Up here I played some of this stuff. I love them, love what they're doing, and you're able to pay for different celebrity interviews and stuff like that and you have big names on your show, so you're blowing up. But now you done got to the point where you stuff like that and you have big names on your show, so you're blowing up. But now you done got to the point where you talking like that, nah, uh-uh, nope. Now I'm not on no cancel thing with them, I'm not gonna push for that.

Speaker 2:

But you need to check yourself, man. You need to really dig yourself, wallo. Dig yourself, man, and watch how you talk to folks, man, especially your folks who gave you your start. You know nobody. You know what. Give me. I did this with the muscle. I got it out the mud. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. You were selling t-shirts five-hour t-shirts for 20 pounds, so he was beating people. Then, right, and you had gilly, who was already you, so he was beating people. Then, right, and you had Gilly, who was already you know. He was rapping and doing his music and stuff, and you hooked up with him and y'all made a good tandem.

Speaker 2:

So don't come like you, some kind of business mogul or some kind of business wizard and you got out the mud. No, no, you didn't. Same thing with that other bozo, that other bozo not calling Wallo a bozo. That other bozo, um, not calling wallow a bozo, I don't think he's a bozo. But the other that, uh, the anton daniels dude. He's like, he's some kind of whatever. You know, you got, you got a, a lawsuit, some money from, from a lawsuit that your father got killed on a job, and you got the money. And now you, you portraying this thing like you, some kind of big business dude, and you make all this money. You got a settlement man to knock it off lame. Now he's a lame. I can't stand that dude, I can't stand him.

Speaker 2:

But anyway, family, I don't want to get into that. We want to keep. I'm. I apologize for losing composure, but we got to get ready and get out of here and I'm trying to get something where we can really blow. Yeah, here it is Okay. No, I won't do that yet. But yeah, we're going to blow out of here and we're going to bid you farewell and come back and see us next week. I don't know what we're gonna talk about, or who may be here, I don't know yet and um, and the words of big king, you must respect life, love justice, cherish freedom and treasure the peace. Y'all go in peace and keep the peace and we'll see y'all next time. We'll see y'all next time, and that's what it's gonna be family, that's what it's gonna be peace.

Speaker 1:

And that's what it's going to be family, that's what it's going to be Peace, outro Music.

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