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Lost Hope, Gain Hope And Politics

Joe and Thee Gooch Season 3 Episode 10

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A week of night shifts, glitchy gear, and a stubborn mixer sets the stage for a bigger conversation about value: what it costs to keep creating, and what it means to stand by your work. We share how we keep the show running—why we delay firmware updates, how we’re wiring phones into the board for cleaner call‑ins—and why those choices add up when you’re independent.

Then we hit the story that lit us up: a 16,000 square foot drywall job where the owner pushed a rock‑bottom 95¢ per sq ft rate and expected a discount based on shared heritage. We walk through the math, the ethics, and the pressure to cave for “opportunity.” The takeaway is blunt and hopeful: knowing your worth isn’t arrogance; it’s how you protect your craft, your team, and your future. Sometimes the win is the one you walk away from.

From there, the energy flips to pure joy and a little redemption. We relive the Dodgers’ back‑to‑back championship—the anxiety, the late swing from Miguel Rojas, Will Smith’s game‑winner, and Yamamoto’s stone‑cold presence in the biggest moments. Beyond the highlight reel, we talk team culture: fewer egos, more trust, and the kind of unselfish play that wins tight games. A standout moment came from the Blue Jays’ tribute to Alex Vesia, a reminder that even on the sport’s biggest stage, grace matters.

We also wade into SNAP, the shutdown, and how spending fights get tied to everything else. Agree or disagree with our takes, you’ll hear real questions about clean funding, foreign aid, immigration, and who ultimately pays. It’s not about yelling; it’s about asking for clarity and owning the tradeoffs.

We wrap with community: a shout to Suavecito and small shops grinding it out, our latest download milestones across Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube Music, and an open invite to write in or come on the show. If you value honest talk about work, money, sports, and daily life, this one hits home. Subscribe, share with a friend, and tell us: when did you say no and come out stronger?

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Welcome, Shout‑Outs, And Support

Joe

What's up everybody? What's up? What's up, everybody? What's up? This is the talkers podcast unscripted. How's everybody doing out there? Happy Sunday fun day, everybody. Happy Sunday fun day, everybody. How's everybody doing? My name is Joe and we have The Gooch. What's up in the Gooch? Yeah, I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up, everybody? Before we start the show, I wanna thank everybody. All the downloaders are downloading on podcasts or hearing and tuning in on Amazon Music, I Heart Radio, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube Music, and all the podcast platforms up there, everybody. Thank you very much. I wanna thank on Europe, all of Europe, Japan, China, Africa, and South America, North America, brother. Thank you guys, thank you, thank you. Thank you for my downloads and tuning in. I'm surprised. And um if you guys wanna support our show, go to theetalkers.buzzsprout.com and um I got a QR code here to to show you where to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's up everybody? What's up, what's up? How's everybody doing? Everybody doing good? What happened? What's what's going on, Gooch?

Thee Gooch

Should I even realize I still had my mic on on mute?

Joe

Oh yeah, no, no, no, no. You're good, you're good. What's up, everybody, what's up? There is the QR code. The QR code, everybody. If you want to go to our podcast, just put aim your camera to the QR code. It goes directly to our buzzsprout page, and you can follow us and support our show and subscribe to Thee Talkers Podcast. Unscripted, everybody. What's happening, Gooch?

Thee Gooch

What's up? I'm just trying to get my stuff together here.

Joe

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about.

Thee Gooch

Oh, God, what a week, Joseph. How you let's here for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Joe

Yeah, dude. No shit. No shit. Everybody was uh beautiful game, but we'll talk about it after, Gooch. Um uh it was a good game. I wasn't shiting it, but uh you know, you know. But uh but so how do you been, Gooch? How was your day?

Thee Gooch

It's been pretty slow. Um I've been working nights the last six days. And um it's pretty exhausting, man.

Joe

Oh shit. You look tired. You look tired.

Thee Gooch

Oh, yeah. I'm very fatigued right now, man. I'm very fatigued. Like, you know when you drive, when you're driving and shit, and then you like you feel like you want to doze off?

Joe

Uh-huh.

Thee Gooch

Yeah, that's how I feel right now. So I need your butt cheeks as pillows.

Joe

No shit.

Fixing The Mixer And Call‑In Plans

Thee Gooch

Oh my god. Other than that, I've been alright. Huh? Other than that, I've been alright.

Joe

Oh, you you have? Nice! But um, yeah, dude. Well, we have like we had re-recorded last week because of my uh technical difficulty issues and all that shit with my audio. I'm right here fucking what the fuck is sounding weird, you know, because you know, when we record an audio, I only hear it low. It was kind of low, like, oh dude, I don't think we're gonna do the podcast on Sunday, something's wrong with my mixer or something wrong with my or the StreamYard um website and things like that, you know. So that's one of the reasons why we didn't record last week because of due to audio technical difficulties and all that stuff. But um, yeah, so I found it out. It was just uh the minor little thing that I fucking missed because um I didn't put it on stereo and all that stuff. So it was my my dupe, my little my little oopsie doopsie, you know that shit.

Thee Gooch

So it was your technical difficulty.

Joe

It was my technical difficulties. I don't know, it's because uh sometimes uh the mixer always gets updates, and I always do the updates, and I don't do it before the show. The updates, because sometimes the audio can mess up when it when they give us updates. Because right now we got I got another update. I got to download it, and but I don't want to do it right now until we or when we're when we're done on the show. Okay? Every time I do something, when they do an update in our firmware and my mixer, it um it messes up the audio, so I don't want to risk it today. Uh I was gonna do it after we're done with the show. And the the the the the download, the update is about, you know, I think you could put you could connect uh the USB cord to my phone instead of using the Bluetooth. So I could just uh use it with in case people want to call. So just go directly to the USB USB cord, connect my cell phone, and I I could receive calls like that better. Something like that.

Thee Gooch

So we can receive calls on the mixer.

Joe

On the show? Yeah, we could well if if I connect it to my mixer and I add my uh my phone, yeah. And I even have that uh option too on the mixer, too. But uh I just give them a code and I'll email it and they'll well they got to go to the site, a website, and then they get it from there and they could just join the show. But it's for free right now, but after I'm done with it, I got to pay a monthly charge and all that stuff. But I don't want to do that shit. But we'll see what happens.

Thee Gooch

Yeah, it's always money, always spending money, always everything. It's always money.

Joe

It's like that's that's the thing. I don't yeah, it's always about money and shit, you know? And I mean, what more do they want? I mean, we we spent a lot of money with the product as it is, or making a lot of money with the product that I buy, and you know, so it's a good brand, Rode, you know. It's a good brand. It's the Rode Caster Pro 2. I'm talking about the mixer.

Thee Gooch

It's always doing money, all time to sleep. Yeah, I know. Now you know how that feels, huh?

Joe

Yeah, exactly. Danny, can you buy me this? Can you buy me that? No, Miho. No, you got to go to work. Get a job, get a job. You all you do is eat and shit and sleep. You know, you're like a you're like a cat, Mijo. Just eating, you just eat shit and sleep. You know, just like a cat. Yeah. They don't have to pay bills and all that shit, no worries or anything.

Thee Gooch

Luck, I wish I could go back to those days where I don't have to pay bills. Yeah, I know, right? To rely on our parents. Yeah, I know. You know, they just go to school and all that stuff. Honestly, bro, I actually I wish we can go back to the 80s, man.

Joe

Yeah, that's what I want to go. You know, uh, we already explained it last year. I mean last year, last week, huh? Um, two weeks ago. What reason? What year? You know, things like that. Yeah. So Gooch. What's up? So you send me a picture of your workplace. What is that all about? I mean, you know, give me.

Pricing Dilemma On A 16k Sq Ft Drywall Job

Thee Gooch

Yeah. Okay, so I have a I have a dude, right? And this dude is Mexican, so he finds if he hears or sees that people need a drywaller and a finisher, then you know, he'll let them know about me and shit. And he gets a piece of the pie, you know. I give him my number, and uh, you know, somehow, I don't know how he does it, but he gets a piece of pie. He gets a piece of the pie of my work, right? Without doing a fucking lifting a finger. Yeah. And I'm sure every race has this dude. And the shit I dealt with last Monday, dude, is kind of fucked up. And it was the first time I had to deal with it. And you know, that's this is my this is my own shit, right? This is my own company. This is what I do, you know, as a for a living. So, anyways, that picture I sent to you. Do you have it? Is it posted? Yes, I do, sir.

Joe

I've got uh picture one right here. Okay, picture one right here.

Thee Gooch

Just show one. I don't think we have the two.

Joe

You know, the two. Okay.

Thee Gooch

Okay, so this house is uh and the way we measure it out when we're in drywall and finishing, we measure it out by square footage. Okay, so this house is 16,000 square feet of drywall that needs to be hung, right? Okay, and the guy who so the owner of the house who who so happens to be Mexican from Mexico kind of kicked me in the balls, dude. Like expecting a free ride, you know? Uh-huh. Like, you know, and that's and that's the the one thing that really fucking bothers me, dude. Like, and I'm sure all the races have this problem that just because you're one race, like I'm Mexican and he's Mexican, that I should give him a fucking discount.

Joe

Uh-huh.

Thee Gooch

Right? That's what I picked up. You know, that's what I picked up. And when I was there sitting there talking to them trying to figure out, you know, numbers and shit.

Joe

Uh-huh.

Thee Gooch

He said it three times. Oh, I got a crew in Ohio or whatever the fuck he said. I got a crew in Ohio that that will charge me really cheap, you know, like 95 cents, 95 cents a square foot, right? I was like, 95 cents a square foot? And this and and these are these are the Mexicans that they bring. You know, I don't have 15 Mexicans in my crew, right? Right, right. It's me and my helper. If I need help, I'll get two other guys or three other guys, whatever, whatever the case may be. Okay.

Joe

And is your is your helper Latino?

Thee Gooch

Yeah, he is.

Joe

Okay.

Thee Gooch

He's a real good worker, he's a loyal worker, dude. I've been he's he's been working for me for a long time, dude. Okay, he won't go anywhere else. Well, anyways. So, anyways, three times, dude. Oh, I can get a crew from Ohio, 95 cents a square foot, blah blah blah blah blah. And I was like, Jesus, you know, how the fuck are they making any money?

Joe

Right, yeah.

Thee Gooch

Because at 95 cents a square foot, if you tell tally it up, it comes out close to 15k, right? 15,000. Okay, when you do all the math.

Joe

Right.

Thee Gooch

And I told him, Well, you know what, man, after being there for like fucking 30 minutes and shit and listening to the bullshit, expecting a free ride, I was like, you know what, man, you might as well get that crew, man, because I'm gonna come nowhere near that number. Nowhere near that number. Oh no shit.

Joe

Yeah. Well, what do you tell you when you told him that?

Thee Gooch

He says, Okay, well, if you if you think you can give me a discount because I like deals, I like this. This is a success, it looks like a successful person, right? I mean, he's building his own fucking house. You know, not a lot of people can do that unless you're successful, right? Yeah, oh well, I like deals, I like deals, you know. He's all this is taking place in Spanish, right? I said, All right, well, I'll come up with a number, but I don't think you're gonna like it. And then I pull that guy, the guy that looks for work for me. I pull him aside and I said, I'm gonna take off. I'll think of a number, I'll call you tomorrow or whatever. So I called him the next day and I told them, Look, I won't say it now. Let's just call him Pepe, all right? Okay, Pepe. I said, look, look, Pepe, respectfully turn down this job because there's no way I'm gonna come close to 95 cents a square foot. There's no fucking way. You know, the amount of work, the it's just too much for that that price. So tell him I said respectfully, I'm declining this job. So I declined it. There's no fucking way I'm doing that shit, dude. Fuck you know, it's just it was to me, it was just a kick in the balls. Like your own race would expect you to give them a discount because you're their race, too. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and that's fucked up because I have buddies and friends that have their own businesses, uh-huh. Okay, and you have to be respectful. You want to see your friends succeed, you know. You want to see your friends succeed. I'm not gonna go into my buddy's shop and expect a discount. Fuck no. You know what I mean? You know where I'm getting at, Joseph? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I know. That's it. It was just in a kick, a kick in the butt for me, dude. That's it, it just sucked. Like, I I just yeah, I don't know, I couldn't do it. It kind of dragged me down the rest of the week. It it ruined my day for sure.

Joe

Yeah, you know, I imagine.

Thee Gooch

Although I didn't lose any fucking sleep over it, but yeah, it was definitely a kick in the balls. That your own race can do that shit to you, dude. You know, yeah.

Joe

Oh, look, in other words, oh, we're you know, you brother up and things like that.

Thee Gooch

Fuck all that shit.

Joe

Sheez. Oh my gosh. I mean, if it was like uh my brother or my cousin, yeah, you know, I'll hook it up for a fucking discount. No, no, not even that. Not even that. Fuck no, I'll charge you double. You know what I'm saying? Oh shit.

Thee Gooch

No, yeah, with the exceptions. If you're a brother, your son, you know, he needs help because you're a fucking sorry excuse for a father and didn't teach him how to drive well. Fuck yeah, give him a discount, or don't charge him at all, you know. Oh shit, just buy the material. But shit like that, dude. Fucking that shit fucked me up. Like, God damn it. I was talking to that, I was talking to Pepe the next day. I was like, I don't know, you know, why would he say? And then when I left, he said, Well, yeah, he said it like four or five times after you left, too, that he has a crew in Ohio that can do the for that. Well, let him fucking do it. Let them lose fucking money.

Joe

Yeah, well, let yeah, exactly. Let them work for cheap, right?

Thee Gooch

Yeah, yeah. And that's what it is, is that these even Mexicans from Mexico are okay with exploiting immigrants. You see that shit? Yeah, they're okay with that because they'll pay these guys out. Like I said, I don't have 15 Mexicans running around that I can pay on $50 a day and get a job done at this size, at this magnitude, in two days. You know what I'm saying?

Joe

Not even Tata will go for that shit, right?

Thee Gooch

No.

Joe

Tata will say, yeah, loco.

Thee Gooch

Yeah, uh, you know what I'm saying?

Joe

You know, shit.

Thee Gooch

It was just uh it's just my rant, it was just my rant, and it bothered me, and I thought I'd share it to the people. Don't don't let people take advantage of you. Yeah, because that is some fucking horseshit, you know.

Joe

Because you you you need money to survive and support your family, right?

Thee Gooch

You know, it's it's not it's not about the it is about the money, okay? Yeah, yeah, I can't lie. But the fact that you're willing to drop your price that low and rub it in my face for that long and expect me to be like, oh fuck that you know what I'll do it for 90 cents just so I can get the job. Fuck that.

Joe

Shit.

Thee Gooch

And your own, and and above all, your own race doing that shit.

Joe

Jeez. I I couldn't really imagine if you would have if you would have probably did that work, you probably would it would have probably took long to pay you, you know what I'm saying?

Thee Gooch

Yeah, and the one thing that yeah, and and not only that, but you'll get people that want to do that, and you do it for them, you charge them cheap, you give them a good deal, they will become the most anal people you'll ever fucking meet in your life. Because then they'll start nitpicking everything. Yeah. And then they start nitpicking.

Joe

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they and then they'll they'll take long work for you to pay. Hey, where's my check? Where's my check?

Thee Gooch

Yeah.

Joe

And then, oh I'll be I'll give you half today and half tomorrow, next week, and shit like that, you know? Yeah, that's what you got to watch out.

Thee Gooch

Yeah, it would have been a fun, it would have been a fun project, but thanks, but no thanks. I'm good. Yeah.

Joe

But the way it looks at it, you would have got a lot of money for that shit, huh?

Thee Gooch

Oh, yeah, dude.

Respect, Fair Rates, And Walking Away

Joe

Oh, fuck yeah. It's just that he was just too stingy.

Thee Gooch

Trying to fucking pull the wool over my eyes, dude. I've been doing this shit way too long, dude, to be fucking being fucked in the ass with some bullshit like that. Because he wants a discount.

Joe

Fuck shit. Oh shit.

Thee Gooch

I told my I told my compadre about that, dude. He got all fucking pissed off, dude. Oh, you did? Yeah, he's a he's a fuck it. Tell him the fuck off with that shit. Because he's in the same business, you know?

Joe

Yeah. And you should have told you should have told him that, you know what? Go once you get your people to bring it or tell you the ones that know how to work that will pay you for cheap. We'll charge you for cheap. Bring them, bring the guys over there to do it for you then.

Thee Gooch

Yeah. Let them do it. Let them lose fucking money.

Joe

That was just my don't break even, huh? Yeah. If you would have done that, you would have broke even, huh?

Thee Gooch

I mean, I would have made some money, but I would have fucking I would have killed myself.

Joe

Yeah.

Thee Gooch

I would have most definitely killed myself. I can imagine. And it and for the money, the that amount of money. I'm good.

Joe

Hey, so yeah, that's that's it really sucks. It sucks. You know who sucks? Oh my gosh. But um, so did you watch the game yesterday, Gooch? The Dodgers? I've been working nights over the last six nights.

Thee Gooch

I didn't get to watch it. However, I did, I did listen. I did I did listen to it on Sirius X and Radio.

Joe

Oh, you did? I watched it, dude. Let me tell you, I'm gonna be honest with you, dude. The the Blue Jays were playing so fucking good, dude. It was a good fucking team, dude. Okay, it was I was fucking worried. All right, I was worried since uh game six, game seven, yeah. I saw that stuff. Yeah, I was more worried every and anything else, dude. You know? Yeah, I saw that.

Thee Gooch

And um I took a screenshot of it too.

Joe

Yeah, and um oh my gosh, I was like, I was telling my co-workers, hey man, how do you Joe, you gonna see the game? What about the Dodgers? You know what, dude? Um I already lost hope on it already. It looks like they didn't want it. Even Sexy Pants was telling me about it. I don't think they're gonna do it. I don't, I mean, we were both feeling the same thing. We were losing hope already on the Dodgers, right? So I was watching it yesterday, you know, because the Dodgers were struggling, dude. And Blue Jays were fucking tough, dude. They were a great team, and I respect that. My hats to them, dude, because um they give the Dodgers a good game, dude. They give them a game, and um I was like, fuck, me and sexy pants. So I go, hey, sexy sexy pants. I go, he says, what? I go, you think the Dodgers are gonna do it? Or he goes, I don't know, man. They look like they didn't want it. And they go, You serious? I go, uh, and I was having hope at first. Oh, you know what? They're just fucking bullshitting, just uh playing the emotions of the blue jays. You know what I'm saying?

Thee Gooch

Like that, right?

Joe

Or they're just it's just a money-making theme to for the economy and all that shit. I was thinking otherwise and all that stuff. And then after when they when they lost, I go, Oh fuck, I already losing hope. I don't know, dude. The blue jays are playing so good, they're giving the Dodgers a a good game, they're hitting well. I was just already losing hope. You know, I go, what a fan I am, huh?

Thee Gooch

And uh yeah, I saw it. Look at before you continue. Where's my camera at? Look at it, says it right there. Oh, yeah. Can you see it?

Joe

Yeah, I said I put it uh to next year. Yeah.

Thee Gooch

Because I was losing hope, dude. Oh, you sure did.

Joe

I was losing hope or I go, oh my gosh, you know, the Dodgers already were losing it. And I mean, I was like, I was all for it, you know. Hey, the Dodgers are gonna win. Hell yeah, the Dodgers know they were seeing all that stuff, okay? And then um, so I turned it off yesterday. I go, you know what? They lost. They lost. Yeah, I just they fucking lost. I ain't gonna watch it. So I put it on uh the TV. I was all drinking of my six-pack. I was already feeling loaded already, I was all buzzed already, and shit like that. And so I was watching Halloween and shit like that, which Halloween already passed and shit like that. So I was all like disappointed. Then I heard of people outside my neighbors out there that were like throwing fireworks because I missed like mostly, let me see, I missed like 15 minutes of the game, and that's when Max Muncie hit that home run. Right, that's when they went to three and four. And uh and then so I put it back on. I asked sexy pants, hey, sexy pants, you watching it? Yeah, I'm watching it. I go, I'm not, dude. I think they're gonna lose, dude. Just you losing faith already? I go, yeah. Well, we're both the same. You said the same thing, and then I said the same thing, and then you disagree. It was like back and forth, you know. So uh so I put it back on. So I finally I was watching it, and then finally they fucking won, dude. I go, shit. You know, but I yeah, I was giving hope, I'm gonna admit. I was giving hope. Yep, you sure did. And um not me though. Not me. Oh my gosh. Huh?

Thee Gooch

Like Kobe Bryant said, it ain't over. The job still ain't over.

Joe

And uh, I got some clips. You want to watch the the clips of the When They Won? The play by pilling? The play by pilling? Yeah, okay. So this one is about um play by playing. Let's see, hold on. When they won the World Series. Okay, I'm gonna play the one that uh the whole thing. It's gonna be short, okay? That's the end.

Clip

The Dodgers stand tall! They win back to back title.

Joe

So they won back to back since uh last year, right? The 2024. It was a good game, dude. As you can see, we're all wearing the Dodgers jerseys now. You know, so my apologize to the Dodgers, but um, it's just that I was worried. I'm a huge Dodger fan. We all are, you know what I'm saying?

Thee Gooch

I think uh I'll I'm gonna I'm gonna text sexy pants here in a minute. I think you deserve a spanking.

Joe

Oh, I don't, I don't think I do. I don't think so.

Dodgers Win Back‑To‑Back Titles

Thee Gooch

But no, that series, the this this world series was probably one of the best world series in my lifetime, at least, bro. Me too. Uh it was pretty, it was pretty, it was a pretty good series, man. They they fought, they both fought until the end, and dodgers came out on top, you know.

Joe

I mean, uh, I've got to hand it to Will Smith. And I knew this guy was a good hitter, dude. I'm a huge fan of Will Smith. So I'm gonna buy his jerseys. So uh yeah, because uh always tell um sexy pants, uh hey Will Smith fucking hits good, and he's doing he's doing all the plays, and oh he's not he's no we so he's did he he's always disagreeing what I I like, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, so Will Smith was the star, Yanni Moto was a star, and uh Muncie and Rojas, especially Rojas. If it wasn't uh Miguel Rojas, shit, dude. He tied up.

Thee Gooch

Yeah, Rojas, Rojas, Rojas hasn't done anything in a month, dude. Yeah, he hasn't. I think this this is his last uh season, he's gonna retire.

Joe

Oh shit, I didn't know that.

Thee Gooch

36. I don't know how because he's 36 years old. I don't know what's the age for Dodger. I think it's uh 40.

Joe

Yeah, and um clean Clayton Kershaw too is his last uh season.

Thee Gooch

Yeah, well he he I mean rightfully so because he's already up there in age. Yeah, he's 37 too.

Joe

Kershaw's already he's 37.

Thee Gooch

Why does he look a lot older than you?

Joe

I don't know. God damn. No shit, huh? Yeah. Okay, here's another clip. Here's another clip of the Dodgers, the play by player.

Clip

Over the fence to beat the champ, you got to knock him out. The Dodgers titles.

Joe

Dude, to be honest, this team that they don't have big egos, dude. They're not selfish, you know. And yeah, technically they're not selfish. I mean, they're they leave their egos on the side. This this is a team. You know, everybody respects each other. You know what I'm saying?

Clip

Clayton Kershaw's major league career ends as he watches his team win a game's Devin Epic. It didn't look like they had any shot in this one until the very end. When an unsung hero, a most unlikely hero, Miguel Rojas, tied the game with a home run with all the focus on the man that was on deck, Shohi Othani. It was Rojas who delivered the shot, and then it was Will Smith who delivered the game-winning home run in the top of the 11th inning. And Yoshinobu Yamamoto, legendary stuff, wins three games in this world series, a complete game in game two. His team faces elimination in game six. And then, like Randy Johnson, like Grover Cleveland Alexander, like some of the all-time greats, Yoshinobu Yamamoto finishes off game seven. Unbelievable. That's just the only word I can say. Unbelievable. People who have pitched, they will appreciate that more than anybody else. Five to four in game seven.

Joe

What do you think about that, Gooch? Heck yeah, dude.

Thee Gooch

I watched all the highlights when I got home. I got home like at one, I think, in the morning. Uh-huh. But I was watching all the highlights. Pretty exciting, man. I wonder if they're gonna do a parade in Los Angeles.

Joe

Yeah, Monday.

Thee Gooch

Are you gonna go?

Joe

Nah. I would, but uh it's uh it's it's gonna be crowded.

Thee Gooch

Idiots out there too, they get all violent.

Joe

Yeah.

Thee Gooch

You know, they get all violent.

Joe

They get too excited, and you know, you one little push and they get all offended and you know, things here and there.

Thee Gooch

But just stay home. You stay forever.

Joe

Yeah, I watch it on, I watch it on TV. Oh, well, the last time we went, it was in 1990, it was 1988. Remember when dad took us over there to City Hall? Yeah.

Thee Gooch

Yeah, just stay home.

Joe

Yeah. Yeah. Well, congratulations to the Los Angeles Dodgers, everybody. And my hats, my hats go off to the Blue Jays. They they they they put they they gave a good game to the Dodgers, and they the Dodgers uh just expressed their way how to beat them. So I think they were just figuring it out too, you know. So and my hats off to the Blue Jays, too, because they did a little tribute to uh Alex Vesia. I don't I don't know what's the issue with him. I don't know if you noticed. Uh they had a number 51 under hat to express their feelings about Alex Vessia and his family. So that's my hat's my kudos to them, too. I got a clip about that. They uh Kike was uh Kike Hernandez was explaining it explaining it to the social media. So I think here it goes.

Clip

All the Blue Jays relievers yesterday wrote 51 on their hats as a tribute to your teammate, Alex Vesia. What's that mean to you given you know the stakes of the World Series? But they realizing that there's things bigger than baseball. Yeah, I didn't notice till Bassett, actually, it was till actually after Bassett struck me out, and I like was looking up at the board to see their replay, and that's when I saw that he had fifty one, and I instead of being mad that I struck out, I was kind of going back to the dugout thinking did Bassett play the Vesia at any point? And then obviously after the game I saw that everybody had him Man, I just for those guys to do that. It's uh it's incredible. You know, they're trying to win a World Series, but they understand that this is you know, life is bigger than baseball and baseball is just a game and for them to do that and and with the stakes w where we're at it with the stakes, it's you know, hats off to them and I just I want to know that we we appreciate it.

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Joe

Regardless of what happens tonight, we we appreciate what they gave uh little you know cadence since I mean uh their thoughts to uh Alex Vesia. So you know who's Alex Vesia is the relief pitcher, right? For the Dodgers? Yeah, for the Dodgers.

Thee Gooch

Okay, I looked it up because I was totally confused. I don't know what the hell was going on. But he had to leave the World Series for uh for some deeply personal family matters, yeah. So he couldn't be at the World Series, yeah.

Joe

Which is uh hope everything goes alright with him and his family. So yeah, dude. So that was it. So congratulations to the Dobbs. Yeah, mm-hmm. Nice!

Thee Gooch

So, what's going on in the world, Jose? So, what else do we have for the people out there in the world?

Joe

Well, you know, you sent me some clear about the snap. What's going on with the snap thing? What's going on? You know what, bro? I don't know.

Thee Gooch

Because the federal government's down the shutdown, and not a lot of people are getting their EBTs or snaps, their food stamps, and all this other stuff.

Joe

Really?

Thee Gooch

I don't know. Supposedly there was supposed to be some freak out going on, like in the big cities where people were just gonna ambush Walmart and fucking take all the food without paying for it and shit.

Joe

So this does this is like the what is it, the welfare, you know?

Thee Gooch

Yeah, snap benefits. Okay, here we go.

Clip

On the snap benefits that to expire tomorrow, uh, folks are talking about putting canned goods and non-veritables for trick-or-treaters. Is there a possibility like you did with the military moving around funds? Is there a possibility to do that for the state? Well, there always is, but all the Democrats have to do is say, let's go. I mean, you know, they don't have to do anything. They don't have to all they have to do is say the government is open. And we only need five Democrats. But they're, you know, they've become a radical left party. So they really have become a very radical left party. And they've lost their minds. They've lost their minds. All they have to do is say the government is open and that's the end of it. And you know, largely when you talk about Snap, you're talking about largely Democrats. But I'm president, I want to help everybody. I want to help Democrats and Republicans. But when you're talking about SNAP, if you look, it's largely Democrats, they're hurting their own people. Thank you very much, everybody.

Joe

So what do you so what's going on with that, Gooch?

Thee Gooch

Okay, so last week they they okay, so that that SNAP benefit, what's going on? It wasn't another bill that was supposed they were supposed to pass. But see, what's going on with the shutdown is that the Democratic Party are insisting on having funds approved in the bill with aid going to to finance aid overseas to foreign countries. Some of them have a lot to do with the transgender stuff that they want the taxpayers, the Democrats want the taxpayers to pay for, like in Venezuela, you know, all overseas shit, you know. Yeah, uh funding Medicaid for illegal immigrants here in the United States. Oh, she's uh you know, for illegals to get you know welfare benefits. So the Republican Party is shutting that shit down. They don't want to do that. Yeah, yeah, you know. And why uh why us as taxpayers have to pay for that shit, you know?

Joe

I know, right?

Thee Gooch

So they they they did a bill last week where it was just strictly for temporary relief relief on the snap benefits with the EBT uh food stamps, and again, the Democrats voted against it. Again, so I mean everybody's pointing their fingers at Donald Trump. Oh, Donald Trump hates poor people, blah blah. Donald Trump has absolutely nothing to do with this.

Joe

Exactly.

Thee Gooch

It's the Congress's job.

Joe

Yeah, the Congress is in the isn't it the the government? I mean uh the mayor or and or the governor?

Thee Gooch

No, it's it's the Congress, it's Congress that has to approve and make this make the fight, uh, the decisions on where the money's gonna go.

Joe

Okay, I see.

Thee Gooch

You know, and then they vote on it. And if not everybody's on board with the bill, then it doesn't get passed. And then they they try it again, they rearrange the whatever bill they want to try to pass, and then they vote on it again, and then if it doesn't pass, then they go back to the drawing board, make adjustments, and then they vote again, and then everybody votes for it, and they're the government won't shut down. But right now, the Democratic Party is taking this government and uh taking the people uh hostage because they want to continue to do that wasteful spending. And the Republican Party's not you know having it, they're not having it.

Joe

But the the the whole point is that the Republicans not to go not to um bite in, huh? Not to not to give in, right?

Thee Gooch

Right. They're not gonna give in to the Democratic Party's demands, no, yeah, paying for shit overseas. Listen, half the people, half the world don't even like the United States. So we're gonna pay people to hate us. You know what I'm saying? They can hate us for free, dude.

Joe

Yeah, yeah.

Tribute To Alex Vesia And Sportsmanship

Thee Gooch

You know?

Joe

Oh shit.

Thee Gooch

Well, yeah, that's that's what's going on.

Joe

And here's another one about it. You could look at uh you could look at this person on the Masu, what is it? Masliku on TikTok.

Clip

You could look at 42 million people in this country that need food stamps on a weekly basis, and we're saying people deliberately instead of Americans, because most of the people that are on food stamps aren't even from this country. 45% of Afghanistan immigrants are on food stamps, 42% of Somali immigrants, 34% of every immigrant from Iraq, 23% of Haitians, 59% of all illegal aliens are collecting food stamps. Meaning that most of the people getting food stamps from the U.S. government and the U.S. taxpayer are not even Americans. Think about that. And we didn't know about any of this before the government shutdown started, but thanks to Democrats, we can confirm tonight that millions of Joe Biden illegal aliens, people who crossed the border when Joe was president, are now collecting food stamps from a program funded by hardworking American taxpayers, is so crazy.

Thee Gooch

So it's all the countries that hate us.

Joe

Okay.

Thee Gooch

That that are here in this in our in the United States that the Democrat Party wants to fund to get, you know, give them aid. And they're all illegals. And I want to make myself perfectly clear. I am neither nor fucking Democrat nor Republican. I'm not for the either party. I I consider myself more conservative than anything. Do shit the right way, you know? Right. Yeah. Enough with the wasteful spending shit.

Joe

All that for just to spend money and then spend some money for the LGBT, what is that thing? And then Sesame Street thing. Yeah, yeah. Other countries. Spending money on that too.

Thee Gooch

You know, if it's so important, like the like the PBS shit, if it's so important that it's that it's super uh educational, I think local governments can pay for it if they want it. If it's beneficial, sure local government should pay for it. But I don't think the federal government should.

Joe

So what do you mean by that? Local government is like your states, right?

Thee Gooch

Like, yeah, the states, like you know, uh the like for example, California, and they wanna, you know, Sesame Street these days, you want to fucking jump on Sesame Street and again, I'm not against the LBGBQ uh uh community. I'm not against the gays or anything like that. But if you're gonna influence kids on that shit, the federal government should not fucking fund that shit. Fucking crazy dude.

Joe

I mean what is this world coming into?

Thee Gooch

Can you hear my birds in the background? It's almost like they know.

Joe

Like when you're about to record, yeah.

Thee Gooch

It's uh porky and bad. El Chamuko.

Joe

El Chamuco, and um, and then he sent me another clip. Her name is uh you can look her up too. Her name is Isab Isabel Brown @ TikTok. Did you follow her? I followed her. I don't know. I don't remember. You don't know? Okay, here's a clip of Isabel Brown.

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Clip

The world is watching a genocide, and I know we love that word these days when it's politically convenient to use, but we are refusing to acknowledge it because it's not a sexy badge of honor to defend Christianity. It's not the black square, it's not hashtag free Palestine with a little flag emoji in our bios. But there have literally been upwards of 50,000 Christians slaughtered with machetes and gunned down in their churches. 50,000 Christians left without churches to even worship inside, as more than 20,000 churches have been burned down, all of this in the last 15 years in only one country, Nigeria. This is a systematic erasure of an entire religious group in a nation where Christianity makes up half of the population and the world is silent. Ask yourself why so it's an it's an absolute complete genocide in Nigeria slaughtering Christians, right?

Thee Gooch

With the slaughtering of Christians, and who's doing it, you ask? Muslims. Yeah, yeah, Muslims are trying to take over this world. I mean, it sounds far-fetched, but it's it's coming. Yeah, if we don't stand up to this shit, it's coming.

Joe

Yeah, and so people don't think that uh that it's not gonna come, right?

Thee Gooch

It's already here. I mean, they look at Minnesota, yeah. They already have their loudspeakers, prayer speakers, yeah. Yeah, Michigan.

Joe

Michigan, Michigan too. And you and and it's gonna about to happen to New York if Mandani gets a good idea. It's about to happen in New York, yeah. If Mandani gets voted in, he's uh he's already leading, right?

Thee Gooch

Well, here's the thing with that fucking douchebag. Mandami, whatever the fuck his name is, he's running for mayor in New York. You know, he wants to do this free rent, you know, no taxes, no this, no that, you know, free train rights, yeah. Yeah, you know, free this, everything free, city markets for everybody. Everybody can go to the city markets, you pick what you want, and you can go home, don't even pay for it. Well, somebody is paying for it, you know. Let's be real, it's the one percentages, the billionaires, right? But here's the here's the thing though, mayors don't have power. Okay, they don't have power to do that. So everybody's got their panties in a bunch, right? So, what can happen now is that if the Republican governor wins, because there's a race right now in New York for governor, now if the Republican wins, she can strip his power. If Mandani wins, mayor, she can strip his powers, but he doesn't have that much power to begin with, you know. Now, what these fucking idiots that are saying that Mandani is a fucking good would be a good mayor, okay. So what if all the billionaires get out of New York? Then who's gonna pay for it?

Joe

Yeah, exactly.

Thee Gooch

You know, they don't think about that. And it's uh there's only a one percent of population of billionaires in New York. Which means there's not very many billionaires in New York, right? So they all move out of New York. Now what? Who's paying for it? The people that voted for him is gonna pay for it. You know what I mean? It's just stupid. It's it's socialism that people think it's gonna work. It doesn't work.

Joe

Nothing's free in the world.

Thee Gooch

Nothing's free, nothing's free. Someone's paying for it.

Joe

And he's gonna be eating his food out of his hands. Yeah, like his rice. He was eating rice out of his hands on the subway. Yeah, that shit. I mean, I mean, what is he trying to prove though? I mean, literally, you know, trying to be oh, I'm I'm not clean, I'm uh I'm I'm not I'm not too perfect, uh I'm not rich, you know.

Thee Gooch

But I'm not being what happens, you know. It's just people people think that he's gonna be a good candidate. The older people know what's up.

Joe

They're gonna regret it.

Thee Gooch

They'll regret it. But when they regret it, that's when it's gonna be too late.

Joe

Yeah, yeah, you know, and and and it's happening in UK. Whatever you see in UK, what's going on over there, and where what else? Um British at the end of the day. UK, France, France, yeah, France, Germany. They're regretting that shit right now.

Thee Gooch

And we still want we still want you guys, we still want you guys to email us. If you guys want to come on the show, email the show. Joe, what's the what's the email for the show?

Joe

The email is Benny. Well, speaking of which, that fucker texts, dude. He texted us uh last week. Well, on Wednesday. I go, I go, oh, you you like what all of a sudden this guy texts. Okay. Uh, if you guys don't know, Benny's one of our ex-co um co-hosts on uh the podcast, and he texts uh me in sexy pants, and oh, I'm going to the World Series on Wednesday. No way. Oh, you fucking bragger, you know, bragging. I go, that's that's what he's texting about, just to brag. And then it ended up after that, I didn't hear him for shit from there. No way, yeah. Yeah.

Thee Gooch

Does he listen to the show?

Joe

Uh I don't have no idea, but I bragged at my part in my end that we made what we we made a lot of thousands. Um listen, we have a lot of listen uh listeners now. I told him that. You know, you're gonna brag about you being in the World Series, okay. All right, that's the only time you talk and call or text, and just to notify, just to brag that you're gonna Wheel Series, you know, and just because you're a moneymaker, you you're the man hours and all that shit, you know. And they're gonna you're all stuck up, dude. You know, I was telling you fucking stuck up and all that shit. But um, if you're listening, Benny, you're such a bragger, you know. But I told them that we have a lot of listeners now. And I got the report here, Gooch, uh, for today. We have 68, I mean 687 downloads in the last seven days, dude. You know, and that's good, that's really good. 687 downloads in the last past seven days, dude. Okay, so that's pretty good. And and the rest of the last 30 days is 1692 in the last 30 days, dude. So we're getting popular, huh?

Thee Gooch

Yeah, we're getting heard, we're getting our voice heard.

Joe

And uh the main the main uh is uh Germany, Europe, all of Europe, and South America, and North America as well, everybody. And the last 90 days, 3244. In other words, 3,244 downloads in the last 90 days, and the total in the all-time total downloads, and uh let me see my drum set. No, no, I fucking fucking wanted to do the drum set. Okay, the all-time total downloads, we got 7,369 downloads, dude. Okay, total, right? Uh pretty good. I just want to thank all the listeners out there. I mean, the reason why it's a big deal for us, dude. All these downloads. The reason why, let me tell you something. I don't know if you know. Uh, I mean to change the subject about the the the the the email. Here's our email, and I'll get to a forgot about that. Yeah, I know. I sorry, I kind of sidetracked it a little bit and stuff like that. I sure did. But yeah, here's our email, everyone. theetalkers dot I mean, I already forgot. Okay, it's right there, dude. I can't even read, you know.

Thee Gooch

Well, you got to tell, you got to say it aloud for the people on the podcast to hear it.

Joe

Yeah, yeah.

Thee Gooch

Okay, but not all of us, not everybody's watching it on YouTube or Facebook. Yeah, that's true, Gooch. That's true.

Joe

And um, okay, the email is theet alkers4us@ gmail.com, everybody. It's T-H-E-E-T-A L K E R S four, number four, and us, U S. Not us, not the US, but us at gmail.com, everybody. So emails from there, you email us and um voice your opinion. You can come in here and yeah, so yeah, dude. So that's all I got to say. And thank you for all your downloads, everybody, and blah blah blah. You know? Anything else, Goohie?

Thee Gooch

Um, let me see here. What do we got? What else do we got? That's it. That's all we got.

Joe

That's all we got, Gooch.

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Thee Gooch

That's what happens when you're unscripted, you know what I'm saying?

Joe

Yeah, yeah. But uh, yeah, so that's our email right there. So I'm glad that everybody's downloading. I mean, the reason why that's important for us to download when all of you guys are downloading, because if it wasn't for the downloads, we wouldn't be on Amazon Music, we would we wouldn't be on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube Music, Pandora, and uh all the podcast platforms there. You know? So if it wasn't for those downloads, we wouldn't be another of those stations. Okay. Did I make my did I make myself clear? Do you want a Hambugessa?

Thee Gooch

I'm actually pretty excited how many downloads we begin. Honestly, no shit.

Joe

Yeah, dude.

Thee Gooch

Because when when we started, you know, three years ago, I was happy for having even four 40 downloads, you know.

Joe

Yeah, and you know my um my episode, uh, the beginning? It reached a hundred, it reached a hundred downloads. No shit. So yours, the the the introduction of The Gooch, it's uh 94 downloads right now.

Thee Gooch

Oh, so no shit.

Joe

Yeah, so that's pretty good. I mean, I look at it pretty good. Yeah, it is. You know, I I see it pretty good. Yeah, I mean, it's no like 4,000, and you know, when I mean, I'm not saying we're good, but you know, we're there. You know, we're getting there.

Thee Gooch

It'll take us fucking 10 years, but we'll get there.

Joe

Yeah, we'll get there. I mean, it's it doesn't happen overnight. Some of if they were really good, yeah, probably. But um, it's because it's I mean, yeah. I mean, we're we're we're there, you know. Just that if it will as long as we're on Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube Music, Pandora, and all podcast platforms, that's all that matters.

Thee Gooch

We need to bring some we need to start bringing some guests in. Why don't you hit up Paul Lamar Hunter? Hunter. Yeah.

Joe

He's he's gonna I got yeah, I got to he looks busy, dude. Yeah, yeah. I was gonna I was gonna tell you that he looks pretty busy. He's doing his thing too, and yeah. I wanna I wanna see if you could uh bring Isabel Brown to the show. You know? You know Isabel Brown? The one we just put on the video? Yeah, she looks pretty how you call it. You just want to look at her ass, bro. No, no, no, no. She has beautiful eyes.

Thee Gooch

That's what that's the first thing you saw. Okay.

Joe

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Thee Gooch

Uh I want to check this Walmart, see if we have it here.

Joe

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Thee Gooch

Yeah, it smells good. Really good. Yeah, it's not too overwhelming.

Joe

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Thee Gooch

Yeah, I remember that, yeah.

Joe

So their spaces were getting too expensive, the renting spaces on the Montebello. So it went increased. So she goes, uh, she was telling me that, oh, you know what, we're gonna go to Santa Fe Springs. We're gonna be over there. Go, oh, you know, no, you are you sure you're going over there? Yeah, the rent space is getting expensive right here, and plus everybody's not showing up. Hardly no one goes to the mall anymore and shit like that. And you know, so now she's in um Swamp Meet at the Swamp Me at Santa Fe Springs. No, what is it? Santa Fe Springs, isn't it?

Thee Gooch

Santa Fe, yeah, Santa Fe Springs. Santa Fe Springs, Swap Meet, yeah.

Joe

Yeah, that's the one you go a lot, right? Nice!

Thee Gooch

Yeah, yeah.

Joe

Well, she's there now, so yeah. Go you guys go there and uh check it out. The uh the pin up store in Santa Fe Springs.

Thee Gooch

Yeah, it's the old drive-in movie theaters.

Joe

Yeah, it's uh that's uh old drive-in theater, huh?

Thee Gooch

That's where we saw Popeye, right? Back in the day. Yeah, yeah.

Joe

Okay, I remember that. We saw Popeye in 1981 in Superman 2. Oh, really? I don't remember that one. It was back in the 80s. Sheez 82, no, 81.

Thee Gooch

I think Popeye was 81, 80 or 81. Yeah.

Joe

I remember that shit. It's a long time, dude. It's a long time. You know what I'm saying? And I'm so I want to thank all the listeners that are out there downloading our podcast. Um, I want to thank one of our supporters too, Mikayla. Thank you, Mikayla, for your support. $3 a month. And if you guys want to support our show for $3 a month, and you will receive a shout out. And you could also cancel anytime if you've been not satisfied. And you want to subscribe for season three, and you will receive a one-time gift, and then and then a shout-out. And you're not satisfied with the podcast, you could also cancel anytime everybody.

Thee Gooch

Alright, guys. Looks looks like we have two messages. He's who who's on those messages?

Joe

Well, it's uh Oh, they're still bots? Yeah, the same bots and all that stuff. And oh and Mikayla's on here, too. Mikayla, the supporter, one of the supporters. Thank you, Mikayla. We sound she says uh we sound wonderful. So they're probably trolling you. The what?

Thee Gooch

They're probably trolling you.

Joe

Trolling?

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Thee Gooch

Yeah. Squeeze your butt.

Joe

Yeah.

Thee Gooch

Nah, I'm ready for a nap, bro.

Joe

You ready for a nap? Okay, guys. You have any last words? Gooch, Goochie, Goochie, Goochie.

Thee Gooch

If you guys are feeling depressed, need someone to talk to. We should get a fuck. There's a phone number, isn't it? 811?

Joe

Whose phone number? Our phone number?

Thee Gooch

No, like for the suicide, the suicide hotline.

Joe

Yeah, we'll we'll we'll do that for pretty soon. We'll I'll try to find one, a hotline for okay.

Thee Gooch

Joe, uh, let's let's reenact. Let's pretend here, okay? I'm gonna call in, okay? You're the operator, you're gonna talk me out of my situation, okay?

Joe

Hello? Hi. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, good. Hold on, hold on. Hi, what what can I help you for, sir?

Thee Gooch

I wanna I wanna hang myself.

Joe

You wanna hang yourself? What the fuck?

Thee Gooch

My boyfriend cheated on me.

Joe

Wait a minute. You're saying you're hung, or you wanna hung yourself?

Thee Gooch

Well, I am hung low. Not too high though.

Joe

Oh. Oh my gosh.

Thee Gooch

Well, it's not a laughing matter. Sorry, guys. It's not a laughing matter. But if you guys, you know, this just fucking yeah. We need to get a hotline.

Joe

We'll get a hotline for the people that are feeling depressed out there.

Thee Gooch

So uh by the way, Joe didn't help me out at all, so I went and hung myself.

Joe

Yeah. Well, I'll be a bad bad psychologist.

Thee Gooch

Don't answer the phone again. Don't answer the phone.

Joe

I'll answer it again.

Thee Gooch

Just so you guys, just so you guys know, I am a suicide survivor. It's like using it's like a you know, we can use the n-word because we're part black as well. So not poking fun.

Joe

So there's our email, everybody. Okay, check it out. And um this is brought to you by Suavecito, everybody. Go there and check it out and buy it. It's on the nearest stores now at Walmart. Check it out. And um, thank you for all your downloads, everybody. Thank you very much uh for uh tuning in and um really appreciate it. Thank you, all of Europe. Thank you, everybody. Support our show. You can scan, uh use your camera, and um point directly to our QR code right there. It goes directly to the uh thee talkers podcast.busprout.com webpage. Check it out. And if you want to support our show for $3 a month, go ahead guys. Thank you very much for all your downloads. Hall of Europe, Japan, Europe, uh Africa, China, North America and South America too, everybody. My brain fart everything, that's why it kind of stopped. Sorry guys. Alright, guys, this is it. This is Thee Talkers Podcast Unscripted and my name is Joe and The Gooch, everybody. Thank you, Gooch.

Thee Gooch

You're welcome.

Joe

Alright, guys, too. And all I can say is bye.....

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