When Reality Feels Unstable After Loss

A house fire in a small community leaves a family shattered, and we do not try to talk around it. We sit with the raw details of what it’s like to witness the chaos, wait for help, and then do the one thing no parent is trained for: tell an 11-year-old that his mom is gone. We talk about Ruben’s questions, the pressure to keep him “okay,” and the way grief shows up in flashes when you’re trying to hold it together.

We also zoom out to the ripple effect after tragedy. People reach out who have not spoken in years, neighbors rally resources, and donations matter because burn injuries, hospital stays, and missed work can crush a family. We share where support is being organized and why community fundraising is more than a nice gesture, it is practical survival. Along the way we touch on the day-to-day realities that suddenly land on one parent’s shoulders, from school needs to medical appointments.

Then the conversation takes an unexpected turn into the strange places the mind goes when reality feels unstable. We get into the JFK assassination video, the Mandela effect, “timeline shift” theories, and even parallel universe ideas, not as answers to grief but as a window into how people process shock and uncertainty. We close with a blunt reminder about smoke detectors and home safety, because electrical fires and missed warnings can change everything fast.

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Joe 1:23

Hello everybody, what's up? My name is Joe. And we have Thee Gooch This show is brought to you by Suavecito, everybody. Suavecito people, everybody. go to your nearest , Walmart, everybody. They there Shopping, and that's all right there, everybody www.suavecito.com. Trust me, man. Like a good boy scalp. I love this product because uh it does wonders to your hair, to my hair, and all that stuff, especially when you have the dry look, the matte look. I'm gonna get some really awesome, everybody. I just wanna say thank you to all the listeners out there. Listening to our show and viewing our show, thank you for all the listeners, that are Listening and I wanna thank all of Europe, Japan, Japan, Africa, and North America, Central America as well. Thank you for remembering What's up, Mr. Central is coming for me? What's up, Mamma Bum? What's up, Mamma Ray Park? What's up, some cement? What's up? What's up, Peace and WhatsApp? Mamma Marie Park. I'm sorry, um, Remo didn't make it right now. Um, he probably being a short notice, so we'll see what happens if Remo shows up today. So he's part of the show. He's a host too. So talking about that, Gooch. What's going on, Gooch? Uh can I talk now? Yeah, yeah, you can you can. Is it my turn? Yeah, it's your turn, Gooch. What's up, Joey? What's up? How you been, Gooch? Kind of a fucked up kind of a fucked up week uh for all of us here in Reburton. Well I didn't know we were gonna start it off with my sad news of what happened on May 30th. Last Thursday, I guess. That uh my son lost his mom on Thursday. Thursday afternoon uh in a house fire. It was very sad because I I reached I was there, you know. It was I was just down the street at my buddy's shop, and we noticed there was smoke because we heard all the commotion,

Running Toward The Fire

Thee Gooch 4:57

you know, cops, cops and shit. Yeah, and we saw we saw a lot of people out there and it was just terrible, man. Terrible thing to witness all the way around. I'm trying to deal with my son. I'll go, he's doing good right now. Yeah, I'm trying to keep him occupied and saying yes to everything he wants to buy, pretty much, you know, the Lego's he's into and ordering stuff on online for him. And yeah. I mean, and I'm gonna act like I didn't know about it, but you told me about it, and I just couldn't believe it because I mean she was your your ex, right? Yes, yeah, just an ex. Usually, I mean, I'm not just an ex, but yeah, she's an ex. But you know, and it's one of those things like you know, our connection is because of my son, you know. Obviously, we had a kid together, so we I had to keep in contact with her when we were able to, and for the boy, so you know, she was always around. And I mean, she didn't come around, like, you know, whatever, but but there's a connection. And you know, through all of this, to me, it's just it's just a horrible, horrible, horrible fucking situation to be in right now for my son, at least. And you know, she has young kids, younger kids than my son. Yeah, so I can only imagine what they're feeling, you know. Right, yeah. It's just what's that situation, though. Yeah, when you told me, when you told me about this, uh while Remo gave me a call. Actually, uh Remo gave me a call, and I thought something bad happened to you. And I go, Well, what happened now, man? Right. And that's when you told me the situation, you know, about Mace. Well, can I meant can I mention her name? Yeah, I would because I I'm going to. Okay, so Macy, I just couldn't have I just couldn't believe it because uh she was a nice down-to-earth person, and mom liked her too, right? You know, yeah, yeah. And my mom liked her a lot, dude, to be honest. But um, that's that's a sad situation when uh Remo told me. I was like, like I I just it was like trauma right there, dude. Like, yeah, I just couldn't think about it. I mean, the the pain like uh Ruben was going through when um I just I just couldn't imagine, dude. Someone losing their mother over that. I want you to just tell me tell me what really happened, or tell us the viewers out there that would, you know, what you witnessed. So I I uh well we heard the commotion right there at my buddy's shop, right? It's just a block, maybe a block away. And we heard all the commotion of the cops, and then we stepped outside and we we noticed there was smoke, and I said, Shit, you know, it looks like it looks like Macy's house, right? And then I got closer and said, Oh fuck, that's Macy's house. So I started running towards the towards the burning house, right? I started running and it was fucking chaos. The fire department hadn't been there yet, and it seems like forever it took the fire department forever to get there. And I ran into it would be Macy's sister-in-law, you know, hysterical, rightly so, you know. Yelling, and then she saw me and she said, you know, that the daughter was in the house, dude. Like her six-year-old daughter was in the house. How old was she then? The daughter is six, but so they thought, right? They thought the daughter was in the house. And as soon as she told me that the daughter might be in the house, I fucking I was running, I was gunning for the back door, dude. I got running into that fucking fire and and smoking shit. But I got fucking stopped. You know, some dude fucking stopped me from running into the house. Right, right. Whether it was a good thing or a bad thing, I don't fucking know. At the moment, you don't give a fuck. You don't think it was just your adrenaline rush. Yeah, exactly. And I started yelling for Macy's name, you know, so she can hear where the noise is coming from. Because you know, you're in a fucking house full of smoke, you can't see shit. Uh-huh. But before that, before I approached the house when I was running towards the house, before I approached it, uh and big props to Macy's brother for saving the two young kids. Oh man. Pulling them out of the house. And the in the first ads in the in the in the in the social media or whatever, they were saying good Samaritans tried to, you know, pull the baby out and whatever, or they pulled the baby out. Well, well, that wasn't true. It was the brother. There were good Samaritans there. But they didn't do anything. A lot of people trying to help, but I mean it's fire, you know, it's smoke, you know. Yeah, even standing outside, bro. You're like you're standing outside. I was standing outside, maybe about five, ten feet away from the house, and my my fucking clothes when I got home just reeked of smoke, you know, just standing back clothes. Yeah, so it's it was there was a lot of smoke. Right, right. And again, it took the fire department. I don't know, I want to say it felt like an eternal, eternal fucking wait, but I want to say maybe 10-15 minutes it took the fire department to get there. Jeez. And as soon as they got there, they break into the house, right? They, you know, they're bashing all the windows, and yeah, yeah. They were told that there was somebody else in there, which would be Macy. Yeah, yeah. And they finally found her and they fucking took her out through the window. And the fucking scene, that sight dude will never leave my mind. Uh it was horrible. I don't want to get too much into detail of it because I don't want people to remember her or how I saw her, you know. Because it was horrible, man. It was uh the smoke around her body, and you know, just it was just fucking horrible, man. The smell, you know, of the smell of everything too. And I called my ex-wife, which would be the boys' mom, and I told her to get our son out of school, which would be Ruben, to get him out of school. Yeah, pull him out of school, uh, you know, and I was hysterical, dude. Like, you know, your fucking emotions are like going a thousand miles per hour, dude. Like, you don't know what to think, what to do, you know. So I just called the boys of moms, been like, hey, you know, get Ruben out of school, please. And I was fucking crying, dude. I and then she was tripping out because he was like, Well, what the fuck's going on? You know? So that the house is burning, I don't know what the fuck, you know. Just get him out. I don't want because Ruben goes to his mom's house every after school. Okay, okay, all the time. So she got him out. I was there talking, and that same fucking guy that stopped me from going to the house, he kept fucking touching me, dude. And I was getting fucking angry. I was getting fucking irritated. Uh-huh. Because I, you know, I wanted to find out what the fuck happened, what was going on, you know, whatever. And I was starting to get fucking pissed off at this dude that kept fucking touching me. I don't know who he was. I probably won't ever see him in my life again. But and I want to give a huge shout out too because one of the guys there, a good Samaritan, after the baby was pulled or pulled out, one of the guys there gave the baby CPR and revived him, brought him back to life. I don't know if I can say his name or not, but I'll say his first name, the Paul. His name is Paul?

Joe 12:30

Yeah.

Breaking The News At Hospital

Helping An 11-Year-Old Grieve

Community Support And Fundraising

Thee Gooch 12:30

I I knew him. I know him from work-related uh stuff, but it's just a horrible scene, man. And then, you know, of course, after everything was all said and done, I didn't know after they pulled her out of the window. I don't I didn't know if she was alive or if she had passed, right? Because I heard conflicting stories about, yes, when they pulled her out, she coughed. Uh-huh. So that was a good sign in my part. Okay, well, she coughed, you know, so that means that she still had life in her. And there she's in the paramedic, so hopefully they give her some fucking oxygen. Yeah, yeah. So I had to I had to rush home to my son, Ruben, and give him the bad news, you know, like this and it was hard, dude. Like it was fucking hard. Because you don't know how to talk to your kid like this, you know. There's no fucking handbook on shit situations like this. You know, it was fucking hard. So I came home and I talked to Ruben and I said, hey, uh, there was a out. I was fucking crying. Keep in mind, I'm fucking crying, dude. Okay, I'm like hysterical. Okay. That I don't know if your mom's okay. I don't know if your mom's alive. I don't know if your mom's dead or whatever, right? Because there was a house fire. She didn't look really good, but she's at the hospital now. And you know, he started fucking crying right away. And, you know, I told him, well, what we can do is we can go to the hospital and we'll find out, you know, the situation. So he agreed to go to the hospital, right? So we get to the hospital, and you know, the front desk, we tell at the ER, we tell him who we are, and this is our son, and I'm whoever the, you know, the dad with her son. And they brought us to the back. One nurse brought us both to the back, and they separated us because they already knew, you know. Yeah, yeah. They said they put Reuben in a little room with a female nurse. And then the nurse came and talked to me, and that's what he told me that she didn't make it. And I was like, fuck, you know, so I lost my shit again. You know, and all the while, you know, it's like, yeah, it's fucking sad, it's it's fucking horrible. And, you know, it's like, like I said earlier, like she, you know, we were connected, her and I were still connected because of the boy. Yeah, you know, so it's not like like, you know, just anybody on the fucking street where I'm not gonna feel bad. Of course I might fucking cry and beat my ass up, you know, these situations, you know. Yeah. But anyways, I had to go into that little room at Ruben and talk to him and tell him that his mom could be naked. It is just fucking horrible, dude. It's just something I will never forget. Yeah, dude, it's been really, really traumatizing. And it's just horrible, man. It's just fucking just sad. You know. So how's how's he doing right now? Right now he's okay, dude. He's uh I'm trying to keep him entertained, you know. I'm trying not to talk about it too much, but he does have his questions, you know, and like when our parents died, at least when at least with me, when I my our parents died. Uh-huh. You know, we got to see him in our dreams, you know, which happens. Yeah, which is the whether or not it's our subconscious. Or they came to visit us in dreams. I I I like to say that they can they come to visit us in our dreams. Yeah, yeah. You know. Spiritually. So I told them to expect that. It's just it's just sad, dude. I just couldn't believe it, dude. I mean like uh because we all matter, the family matter, right? So mom met her, mom liked her a real lot. And um and uh just I just couldn't believe it. I was shocked that day when you told me to I was like, I still couldn't get over it, dude. Like it was just on my mind that uh you you know, you get that photographic memory. I'm just imagining I'm here thinking about it, and you're and you're like the the what uh ex-hus uh ex-boyfriend, right? Right, and um or your her ex. And thinking, and then I have thinking about Ruben, what he's going through, you know, because that's his mom, you know. You know, I wanna yeah, I wanna say that, you know, whether or not he fully understands or or whether or not it's hit him 100%. Yeah, it's still up for debate. But I I just want him to be occupied because he still has a funeral to go to, you know? Yeah, he still has that to do, you know. And I don't want to continue to to put him in a situation where you know he's constantly being reminded that his mom has. I want him to heal. He knows he's gone, you know. He knows he's gone, but I want him to start healing, you know. Whether it's whether it's through his cousins, you know, brothers, myself, you know, television games. Whether it's through healing like that, he's not forgetting her by no means. You know, and I won't let him forget her, obviously. But I want him to heal. Yeah. You know, um, it's gonna take a long while. Absolutely. Yeah, you know, that takes time to I mean, I still can't get over dad and mom's you know, passing. You know, it always enters enters our mind. Oh, yeah. That doesn't go away, you know. Especially, especially when you're going through, I mean, especially if you have a good bond with your parents, you know. If you really have a good, good bond and and knowing that your parents passed away, and it's still gonna enter. And my problem, my problem, yeah, exactly. My my and my problem with this situation, and I'm not blaming anybody, you know. My problem with this situation is that he is so fucking young, dude. Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, and that not just him, but his little sister, and then the little two boys, his little brothers that are in the hospital right now, dude. Jeez, they're still in critical d condition. Last I heard, yeah. That was that so the the other the other child was at school, yeah. Yeah. Are you serious? And and that's the the daughter, yeah. The daughter. The daughter. That's tragic. That was very tragic. I mean they go, man. It's just I'm I'm still in disbelief, you know, like fucking crazy dude. Like why, you know, not so much why, but fucking how, dude. Oh yeah. So did they still haven't figured out what happened? I don't know, dude. I'm I'm leaning I'm leaning more over uh electrical issues. Electrical house, yeah. But it hasn't been confirmed. I I really don't know. Yeah, just that's uh yeah. When I was like when they told me I just like the first thing I thought it was Ruben's feelings, you know. How is he reacting, you know, like man, like I mean, losing your parents, dude, is like it's the hardest situation, especially, you know, especially when it was your mom and dad, you know. I mean, to be a hundred percent with you, man, like to be because I I've never I was never even even with my oldest children, dude. I was never about taking kids away from their mom their moms. Yeah, yeah. Never, like it absolutely never, never. I did it with him, you know, because I had to. I had no choice. But honestly, dude, like it's just it's just fucking sad that his mom was thinking because you know, mom, you know, we loved our mom, right? Like moms, moms are moms, moms are we'll only have one, just like dad. Well, we can have plenty of dads, don't get me wrong, but we only have one dad. But there will always be one mom. No mom no woman can ever replace your mom. Yeah, no, that's true. Yeah, it's like it's crazy, dude. I mean so when is the funeral? You don't know? Oh, I don't know, I don't know yet. I I don't know. I mean, my condolences to the family for Macy's family, you know, my condolences for uh the family and Ruben. Um I hope he hangs in there. I mean, God's God's gonna you know carry him out. He's gonna like be there for him. So he's I mean I don't know, it's it's there's no words to express it's it's really hard, dude. I mean, because sometimes when it's something like this, if you I've if someone was saying something, it might come out the wrong way. Yeah, things like this, it just comes out like you know. And I've talked to so many people when this happened, dude. I I talked to so people hit me up on Facebook that I had I hadn't even talked, spoken to in fucking years, dude, like years. You know, giving their condolences, dude, and and and and almost all of them said that they have no words. Yeah, yeah, you know, and they don't, you know, and I don't, you know, like how do how do I continue, you know, try or at least try to explain to my son why his mom's gone, dude. Yeah, you know, because he's 11 years old, man. Like he's got a lot more understanding of it. Yeah, understanding and time to heal. Yeah. And it's and it's exactly what it is, dude. I have no words, and and a lot of people don't have no words because this is just shocking, dude. Like it's shock. Yeah. You know, and I went to work today, dude, for the first time. I only I mean, I only took a day off because of the incident to comfort Reuben, but I decided to go back to work today. But honestly, dude, it's like fuck, I couldn't do it, man. You know? So much we're gonna try again tomorrow and I'll go to work tomorrow and you know It just seems like I need to be close to my boy, you know. Yeah, you have to be there for him and shit. But at the same time, I need some I need some adult interactions to get me out of it, you know? Yeah, yeah. Because I had I I'm going through this shit too, you know. Yeah, no, just you know, it's just uh you need someone to talk to, and you know, yeah, it's just tough, dude. It's wasn't expecting this at all to happen, obviously. You know, none of us did. It is a shocker, dude, to be honest. Yeah, it fucking is, dude. You know, it's like uh I can't believe it, dude. I just was the what was the last time I saw Macy was like uh it's been a while, man. Yeah, it was like since 20 maybe 2018, 2017 around her. You know, so I mean around her, right? Should be around her. Yeah, it was before mom passed. Yeah. It's like so my my condolences to the Bosby family and and the kids. Hope for a speedy recovery on the two babies. It's just fucking terrifying. And the only girl she had, you know. And that's because every time I see her, when I pick up Reuben, because uh Ruben wants to go to you know his mom's house every every day after school, you know, to get dropped off, you know, he had his reasons, right? To get dropped off at his mom's. And I pick him up there, and every time I see her daughter, she would call me dad. Uh-huh. And uh and I would call her, I would call her uh daughter or moposha. Uh-huh. No, no. It's crazy. It's just fucking sad, dude. I just uh hope the the two young boys get uh speedy recovery, dude. And um I'm praying for them too. So the the boys, I don't know which is which, and I won't say their name because they're minors, but yeah, one of the boys was 70% burned, 70 for 70% burnt on their bodies, and the other one was 50% burnt. There is a GoFundMe for the dad of those two boys. It actually it actually exploded, and and I mean unwillingly, I'm enjoying I'm enjoying the community coming together, dude. Like like I never seen so many people come together in a community, in a small community like this, and everybody's just coming together and raising funds because the dad needs to be with his kids, you know, and so like city. Yeah. Just imagine he's what he's going through too, you know. Yeah, I imagine that, dude. It's just so fucking traumatic, dude, all the way around, dude. It was like, you know, it's like you're you're in a fucking lake, right? And you know how you throw a little pebble in the lake and it ripples?

Joe 25:47

Yeah.

Joe and Thee Gooch 25:47

It has that ripple effect. That's what's going on. What is it? Yeah, train reaction.

Thee Gooch 25:52

Yeah. And that's what's going on right now because there's one single death, and it's affecting a lot of people, dude. Jeez. You know. It's uh horrible. And I didn't want to put anything on Facebook or my Facebook about it, you know. Because I don't want, you know, I didn't want people to be like, you know, I didn't want to look for the attention or or petty. Yeah. But I had to do because it's fucking it was fucking hard, dude. Telling your son that, hey, your mom didn't make it, your mom's no longer here. You know. I mean, I didn't say like that. I mean I was I was fucking in those moments you forget what you say, huh? Yeah. I was out of it, dude. I was 100% out of it. I could imagine, dude. Um and the only way I could explain my feelings to get them out there is just, you know, I feel really bad for everybody involved, dude. Like my feelings are fucked up right now, dude. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't imagine. You know. That's uh yeah, and it and it's and it's the way for me to explain it. Her and I we didn't talk a lot. Her and I, we didn't, you know, and but when we did, we were cool. It was, you know, this is like everything else. We all have bumps on the roads, right? Yeah, yeah. You know, we were cool, but for the most part, yeah, we were cool. You know. But I was gonna say too that I forg I forgot what I was gonna say. And now I gotta figure out, you know, stuff for Ruben that I didn't I didn't take care of, but you know, where she did, like doctor's appointments and yeah, immunization. I didn't even know kids had had had to get shots. Now I do. You know, now I gotta get that for Ruben. Well, yeah, we we get chicken pox and polio vaccines and things like that. Is that what you're talking about? For school, yeah. For school. Oh, for school shots. Oh, okay. Doctor's appointments and yeah, she took care of all of that, dude. I just went to work and came home, you know. Oh, that's over now, dude. It's and it sucked because there's Remo. Hey Remo! Hey, what's happening? What's happening? Yeah, we're here with the Gucci talking about what what happened with Macy's never in the in that moment.

Remo 28:28

Just smoke voice acting. So I don't call it. This is fucking devastating, man. That's always been, you know, honestly, that's always been my fear.

Joe 28:38

Uh-huh.

Remo 28:43

She's been out there for three. Shit, you know shit happens, you know.

Joe 28:46

Yeah.

Remo 28:50

Settling the news, breaking the news to your kid. Like, you know that shit happens. Yeah.

Joe 28:55

Yeah, that's kind of tragic, dude. I mean, I just can't believe it. When you when you called me when you told me about that, I go, Oh my god, what you know? I was trying to I was trying to make my rounds, dude, but it's just it's just fucking hard, dude. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking crazy, man. And that's uh and that's what my my fear is, dude. Well, not my fear. I think it's everybody's fear because you know, this is the reason why that we were at home, you gotta turn everything off, your electric your electrical stuff, your wirings, and all you gotta make sure you double check, you know, things like that that could happen, you know. Yeah. They're they're leaning, they're leaning towards electrical, electrical problems. The cause was electrical.

Remo 29:46

Oh, okay.

Joe and Thee Gooch 29:52

Yeah, yeah. When I called Riemel, dude, I was fucking it was still fresh. It was still fresh in my mind. Yeah. It was probably within that within that hour, you know, after I told Ruben that his mom didn't make it and shit. And that was before the that incident happened. When I voicemail, when I voice text you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was way before. That was way before, right? Yeah, that was a couple of hours before we got. Yeah, okay. And that's when I when when I came home, that's when Remo told me about it. I was all like shocked. I go, what so for anyone local who's listening, there's a fundraiser for the kids for all the kids. So it would be it would be under the Macy Ballsby Children's Fund at the Wyoming Community Bank. If anybody would like to donate, that would be the place. Do you have the GoFundMe Joe? Yeah, I do. Yeah. Okay, here's the QR code. You just got to aim your camera phone on it to the QR code, and it has a goal, GoFundMe. Yeah, cable. So gofundme.com. Just aim your camera if you want to make any donations. Well, what do you have to go? Gucci, go to Cass City, Cassie Lady. Last name is L-I-E-D-Y. Go to the Cassie Light Lighty Lide. GoFundMe. It's for to support Bryson and his two boys that are in Salt Lake City, Bernie and the kids are in critical, critical but stable condition. Anything will help. Anything will help. Yeah. So please please consider donating. Yeah, just uh I just uh you didn't have a you don't have a picture of Macy? Yeah, so just uh my prayers is out to the family and especially the the father and um the father of the kids. It's a tragic lost. I mean we knew Macy and and uh she was a great person, you know. And uh and I just uh prayed uh pray for Ruben and everything. So he'll he'll he'll be strong. He's gonna stay he's gonna be strong like his dad. The gooch. Oh I don't know about that, Joe's.

Remo 32:57

But you know what the good thing he's blessed about is that he has Joe, I mean uh the boy's mom, you know. Yeah, he's very fortunate.

Thee Gooch 33:07

Like like I was telling Joe, like you know, we only have one mom. There's no real yeah, there's not a there's not another woman that can replace yeah, but but I think the boy's his mom, yeah. You you're right.

Remo 33:18

She he she's like she's having taken a minute since day one, you marrying, yeah. So yeah, but I know, but it's still it's still gonna fuck with them. That's gonna be something that'd be heavy on his heart the rest of his life, you know what I mean?

Thee Gooch 33:31

Yeah, and that's the shit that fucks with me, dude. That's the shit that like mean every time I look at him, dude. That fucking.

Remo 33:36

Right now he's a king. Well, right now he's a kid, so he like the most you know, yeah, yeah. As he gets older, it's gonna be hitting him a little bit more and more. So he doesn't need he's gonna need 103 now, that's for sure, definitely. You know what I mean?

Thee Gooch 33:48

Yeah, I got the school counselor talking to him on uh on Monday when he goes back to school. I was gonna I was actually gonna I was actually they're gonna go and keep him home for a week because next weekend is of course Mother's Day, right? Right, yeah, that's that's yeah that's the and I didn't want him to get I didn't want him to get involved in you know hey you guys gonna make something for your moms, you know, hey I wanted to keep him away from that shit, you but yeah, from feeling that that that that that not the guilt but that just that emptiness, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But but he's gonna see it around though, like he's gonna see it.

Remo 34:26

Yeah, he's gonna face it either. He could but he could make it do something for her and then just drop it in the you know, drop it at her at her wake, you know, or her service, you know what I mean.

Thee Gooch 34:37

Yeah, and then that's the thing too. I was telling Joe too that I was trying to keep him away from the situation right now because right now he's doing good, but then he has the funeral to his tensor again.

Remo 34:49

Yeah, yeah.

Thee Gooch 34:53

It's just sad, dude.

Remo 34:55

It is, it's fucking it's definitely sad, bro. It's devastating. It's it's fucking crazy, bro. It's it's hard to process.

Thee Gooch 35:03

It is exactly, exactly. That's the shit I was looking for. It's very hard to process, dude.

Remo 35:07

Yeah, doctor, it's hard and unbelievable to process. It's like a fucking nightmare you want to wake up from, you know.

Thee Gooch 35:12

No, yeah. It's crazy, dude. It's crazy. All right, how how you been, uh Remo?

Remo 35:23

I've been all right. Fucking kind of work here and there, little jobs in the email, waiting for the callbacks. I just got up. I talked to my alcohol worker not to longo, and you said that they want me back over there at the skin, bro. Uh Fitana Los Angeles, a little swami, the plaza.

Thee Gooch 35:36

Oh, really? The one that you went to. They want me back, yeah.

Remo 35:39

But yeah, yeah, with the Babu Ganoush. Yeah. So they want me back. I think I think I'm probably gonna jump on it just for temporary reasons or something else better comes in. Because it's convenient, it's close by, and it's like, you know what I mean? I already know what the fuck's up, you know.

Joe 35:57

Right, right.

Remo 35:58

So I'm considering it, but it's just you know, it's just the whole fact of like, you know, I can't put my head down my dick. I thought you got a better job, you know? Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

Joe 36:15

Well, do what you have to do, though.

Remo 36:17

You know, yeah, you know, exactly. I have no other choice, I have to take it. Fuck it. Just flipper until something good comes along.

Thee Gooch 36:23

So when are you gonna start that?

Joe 36:25

That's it.

Remo 36:27

I just found out today that they want me a black card, you know. I was, I was, I was in the special. Oh, really? But I gotta I gotta call and be like, hey, how's it going, guys? You know, stop by, walk in, you know, fucking the black.

Thee Gooch 36:42

Well, good luck with that.

Remo 36:43

Yeah, because they told me that they they haven't had uh they haven't had uh handyman there for the since uh July of last year, they haven't had someone there.

Thee Gooch 36:50

Oh really?

Remo 36:52

Because no one hangs it, bro. No one can take it, no one can take the bullshit with the fucking dealing with the people in the street, dealing with the homies, dealing with the fucking boss, dealing with all no one could hang it. I hang, I I took I took it for five years, you know what I mean?

Thee Gooch 37:04

Right, yeah, yeah. And they're all saying still work there, uh, not everybody.

Remo 37:10

Some still closed down already, some some still there, but I'm grateful for it because it was a stepping stone for me to get my shit together and be able to establish myself for a bit, you know? Right. So you know what I mean? Who knows? Maybe I need to get back in there to get myself up again.

Joe and Thee Gooch 37:27

You could you could hear us with your earphones on that thing, or what? Nice. Well, how do I sound? Sounds good? No, I mean, because I still I still hear the chamuco. That's crazy now the way it sounds. The what? It's crazy how it how it sounds, huh? Yeah, I don't hear it. I don't know what the fuck you're just talking about. You'll you'll hear it if you listen to the to our show on YouTube. Uh overdrive. Yeah.

Remo 38:08

No, open ceremony, open ceremony.

Joe 38:10

Everybody does that QR code if you want to donate. Anything counts, a dollar, stuff like that. So all you viewers out there, there's a QR code.

JFK Limo Mystery And Mandela Effect

Remo 38:19

Okay, this is one thing I want to talk about now.

Joe 38:22

Okay, go ahead.

Remo 38:24

Shoot. That's S. There's this thing that's been bugging me for like this past last week, right? I keep forgetting to bring it up. But have you guys heard about this whole the whole fucking uh okay, okay, okay, okay. I don't know if you guys have been uh you guys probably have heard about it, but the Kennedy shooting, right? The video.

Joe 38:40

Ah, okay, yeah.

Remo 38:41

How many fucking people were in the car at first? The what? How many people were in the car? Um four, right? Four, right? Correct. Tell me why today, as you go and look up any footage, any fucking video footage, there's six people in the fucking car. Really? The Mandala effect? Six people. It's it's it's a timeline shift. That's a timeline shift. It's uh it's it's the it's it's a fucking car that it looks even weird the way the seats are. It's like dick that car wasn't even never like that. So if you can look up the video right now, look up the video footage from anywhere, anywhere, and it's gonna show six fucking people in the fucking car.

Joe 39:21

Okay, but uh where do you find a video at? Where do you find the video?

Remo 39:24

And YouTube, that shit. You can YouTube it, Google it, the Kennedy assassination video, and it's gonna show six fucking people in the car, bro. Anywhere you look for it, it's only gonna show six fucking people.

Thee Gooch 39:33

Okay, yeah, I remember four. Yeah, I remember four.

Remo 39:37

I remember four, too.

Thee Gooch 39:38

It clearly so in the back, it would be Jackie in the back, Jackie Onasses, and then so so so the new layout.

Remo 39:45

So the new layout is the guards in the front, two in the front, and then in the back seat, there's like another political family uh guy with his wife. I think I don't know if it's the vice president, I don't know who, and then it's fucking the the the oh my dad's shit.

Thee Gooch 40:03

I see it.

Remo 40:04

This shit has been this shit has been bugging me, bro. Okay has been fucking with me. And I at first I was like, wait a minute, this is crazy. Am I fucking going crazy? Am I fucking tripping? What the fuck? No, no, no, no, no. It's really been fucking with me, though. Oh yeah, people now. So where's the original footage? Where's the fucking footage that we all see?

Thee Gooch 40:23

Where that's true.

Remo 40:25

Where can we get that footage?

Joe and Thee Gooch 40:27

They're fucking trying to change it. Yeah, because uh isn't doesn't Trump want to like lay it out? See, that's it. That's just mind-blowing to me. That shit blew my fucking mind. Because the car, the convertible they were in, it was never a fucking six-seater or whatever the case.

Remo 40:44

That's that's another that's another thing that they brought up to that thing. That car doesn't even exist like that, to where it's built like that.

Joe and Thee Gooch 40:49

Yeah, yeah. That that looks like uh 1969 or something like that. Are you looking at it, Joe? No, I'm trying to find it, but there's an animation on it.

Remo 40:59

No, no, no, like a six-seater. Look at the fucking animation.

Joe and Thee Gooch 41:05

They're just they're describing it by animation on it. They have like a little like uh it's like a six-seater, like it has it right here. Look at it, look at the the Kennedy assassination as it happened. That's what I'm on.

Remo 41:23

They're all gonna show you a six-seater now with six people in the car, which is fucking full of shit. Okay, because we all clearly remember seeing the fucking driver reach over a seat going and being bam, right or wrong.

Thee Gooch 41:35

Right, right.

Remo 41:38

Because I'll tell you right now exposed this shit.

Thee Gooch 41:42

I'll tell you right now, what I remembered there was four people, so it'd have been the driver, the vice president, and then John F. Kennedy, and then Jackie Onassis. Hold on, okay, or Jackie and now there's two other people. Yeah. Give me a second.

Remo 42:03

And and the reason why I heard about this and I found this loud and it brought to light to me was because of the continental.

Clip 42:10

And the comedy nearly 50 years after those shots rang out in Dealy Plaza, there was now near silence. All right, we'll see that car where it now sits at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan. We all have images of that day burned into our minds, and every one of those images includes that.

Joe 42:27

Oh my gosh.

Thee Gooch 42:29

Oh my god. Here we go. Yeah, that see, that I don't remember that's bullshit.

Clip 42:39

That's bullshit. I don't remember that shit. The moment America lost a president. Five decades later, K's limousine remains one of the most powerful symbols of that day. The convertible the president and first lady were riding in through Dallas. 1961 four-door Lincoln Continental. Nearly 50 years after those shots rang out in Dealy Plaza, there is now near silence when people see that car where it now sits at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan. We all have images of that day burned in the city. Every one of those images includes that car and intimate part of the assassination. I mean, that's where the president's life essentially ended for people are. So many asking those what ifs? What if the car was moving faster? What if the bubble top had been on it? The limousine had no armor when the president was assassinated. It was brought back to Washington, studied for evidence by the Secret Service and the FBI. It was refurbished with new titanium armor, a permanent top added, it was put back into the presidential fleet, driven until the 1970s. It was codenamed X-100, though Americans only saw it on black and white TV that Lincoln Limo was actually of midnight blue. It's been said President Kennedy did not like the bubble top, and when the rain cleared that fateful Friday, the bubble was removed as the sun emerged in Dallas.

Thee Gooch 44:25

Is that the car that he got shot on?

Clip 44:27

To see it now is still jolted, all polished and presentable, without a hint of what happened 50 Novembers ago. Belatedly I clearly remember the car. The tragic Lincoln limousine at the end of the road in the Henry Ford Museum. You're still watching him, Joe?

Joe 44:46

No, not yet. No way.

Thee Gooch 44:49

How do you take it out?

Joe 44:52

Oh, I gotta I gotta log out.

Remo 44:54

It's out now, I don't see it. Yeah, I've been meaning to talk to about this shit to you guys and and bring it up, but I keep forgetting, but yeah. That's a fucking that's a mind fuck right there.

Joe 45:10

Yeah, it is, dude, to be honest.

Remo 45:11

That shit mindfucked the only shit tonight. That shit had me mind fucked all night. I was already thinking like fuck what's gonna happen to me. Did I did I find something I'm not supposed to find? What the fuck? You know?

Joe 45:21

Uh-huh.

Remo 45:22

But that's bullshit, man. That shit is clearly fucking and even when you go to the fucking uh to the YouTube starting videos, uh on the comments that says I'm here because of Cat Williams, and yeah, everyone's there because of Cat Williams and everyone agrees that that shit only had four people in there.

Joe 45:39

Yeah, yeah.

Remo 45:44

Yeah, meanwhile, everyone's distracted distracted to a fucking Epsy file of the war and this and that, and no one's fucking you know what I mean? Yeah, that's my that was my real rant for the fucking for the debate.

Thee Gooch 46:31

That's the real footage.

Remo 46:38

Yeah, but that's not what I remember.

Joe and Thee Gooch 46:42

So there's six people in there in that tr in that car. Yeah. And I remember four. Oh I remember four. Yeah, me too. So now there's six. Who got sworn in Who got sworn in after Kennedy was assassinated? Oh, what's his name? Um L what's his name uh LB uh LB LBJ. LBJ. That fucker was happy when he was assassinated. I can imagine bad. Yeah, he was smiling when they were swearing them in. Oh, he was? Yeah. When his wife, when Kennedy's wife was still in the the clothes, uh her cloth her clothes still had blood on them when they were swearing them in. Oh shit. So this is the actual footage when he gets assassinated, right? And there's six people in their fucking car, and now history changed itself. Oh shit, no shit, huh? Time change, and then look at it, and then the other people got shot too. All of a sudden, they shifted it, huh? Interesting, good catch, Remo. I don't know. Anybody who remembers the assassination of Kennedy, leave it in the comments, yeah. I don't remember seeing fucking sending it an email to Joe. Or all of us. I mean, we're in the comments right here. There's a you know to Joe section, only Joe. What do you mean? But uh that's that's a good catch, Remo. You know, yeah, good catch, Remo. Good catch. Dude, I didn't I don't even pay attention to that, you know. She like, hey, remember that dog?

Remo 48:49

I only I only found out and realized this shit because of Cat Williams. He's the one who did a stand-up comedy and talked about it, brought it brought to everybody's attention. Was this a recent recent show of Cat Williams? I believe so, if I'm not mistaken, yeah, I think so.

Parallel Universes And Near-Death Theory

Joe and Thee Gooch 49:02

That's crazy, dude. Yeah, because we I seen, yeah, you're right. I seen four occupants in the car. Yeah, I remember four. And the funny part is you think they it's AI, they AI it or or you just think uh you think you're just AI. Either AI or fucking time shift, you timeline, yeah, timeline shift. So if the this is what what boggles my mind if the time shift they alter the future, I mean the the past or whatever you want to call it, what would I be doing right now? You know, like before that. You're probably the smartest man on the earth right now. Maybe I became smart, huh? I'll go a different timeline. We only had to imagine in the in the other timeline, we only had to explain things once to Joseph. You're right. Uh, because uh I remember I was dumb. What the the the word what is unheard of to Joseph? Yeah, what was unheard of so and you know I was thinking, Gucci, yeah, when they altered a timeline, okay. This is my my theory. I don't know. This just maybe just popped in. I've been thinking about this because uh since the Mandala effect. If they change the alter the they alter the universe, they change the timeline. I was I was always thinking so. That means that maybe my our our dad was in he didn't pass away, maybe he's out there. He's probably being a bum, you know. Why a bum? Why not a bum? No, he could be anybody. I mean, I'm just saying it's an example. It's an example, it's an example. He could be a homeless person, he could be rich, and I go say, Hey, you look like my dad. And he could be you Hefner, yeah, whatever. A fucking engineer, yeah. He could be an engineer, or I mean

Joe 51:02

that's why we say that's why they say that we have Dopplers like that look like us, maybe because of timeline shift, you know what I'm saying? Doppler right here. You know, don't you ever think about that?

Remo 51:14

It's it's it's it's like the the theory that that the goals that says, okay, those times where you've had a close life and death experience, right? Uh-huh. But maybe in this timeline in this parallel universe, you escaped it. But in another one, you fucking didn't, right? So your soul goes on and travels, your soul travels to the next parallel universe and continues.

Thee Gooch 51:38

Yeah, yeah. That's a good theory. That's a good theory.

Remo 51:41

So that whole concept of fucking afterlife reincarnation and going to heaven doesn't exist, right? This is the theory that I've heard. Doesn't exist. You just fucking shut down and you move on to the next timeline. And your life keeps going. You know what I mean? Probably another parallel universe. I got you guys are mourning me and shit, or or or vice versa, you know what I mean? Because I've had close to death experiences. Maybe those times I did actually fucking die or die or something happened, but that timeline is still going on in another parallel universe, but I wouldn't know because I'm not there no more. Now I shift it to my other fucking, you know what I mean?

Joe 52:19

Yeah.

Remo 52:20

I pick up and I pick up and go on from somewhere else. Just like the whole concept of the 2012, the whole world ended, but we just our our fucking all our kids shift it to another fucking, you know what I mean? Same concept, right? So this is a concept that I've been thinking about lately. Like, fuck. Maybe we don't fucking go to heaven. We maybe we don't see the light, maybe we don't fucking get to watch over our fucking loved ones. No, our life just continues on another fucking parallel universe. Yeah, and and and how many more universes do we have to it's parallel? Who knows? I don't fucking know. I let that I wouldn't know. You're blaming it.

Thee Gooch 52:52

Either way you slice it, between me, you, and Joel, we're all still idiots.

Remo 52:59

Exactly. 100%. I agree. That that in our in our timelines, we all fall in that category.

Thee Gooch 53:04

Yeah, you know, I've been so fucked up. I've been, you know, since this whole situation on Thursday happened, and uh my mind hasn't been 100%. Imagine it. And I went to work today. You know what? I went to work, I jumped in my car, still wearing my fucking slippers.

Remo 53:25

Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Your mind's not there. No, you you need a you need to fucking uh take some time off and let this settle in, let it adjust, you know.

Thee Gooch 53:35

No, yeah.

Joe 53:37

I mean it is it is tragic, Gooch. It is tragic.

Remo 53:41

It is definitely, man, 100%. Regardless whether you guys were together or not, no, that's the the mother of your son. It's gonna affect you. It's gonna affect him. It definitely affects you 100%.

Joe and Thee Gooch 53:51

No, yeah, because if it affects him, it's gonna affect you, dude. Yeah, 100%, yeah. Of course. And uh the the the the pouring of the pouring of a support, dude, is just it's been fucking it's been on point, dudes. Like it's just been it's been crazy. Again, people I haven't heard of in years, you know, they reached out and spreading their condolences and shit. That's why that's why I changed my name on Facebook. You know, and I'm no longer the goose for now, at least. Why not? So people can reach out. Oh see, that's the this is the the other Joel. Um, yeah, I'm the the paralyzed Joel, the dum joe. You know what I'm saying?

Remo 54:32

This is a Joe. I shift shifted Joe back. This is just the one that wears a helmet.

Joe and Thee Gooch 54:37

Yeah, I shift shifted name. You know what Joe I want back? You know what Joe I want the Joe from 1988 to come back.

Remo 54:45

I was gonna say that you know what? I'm thinking about that. The motherfucking cool dude, the cool guy with the motherfucking party business in the front and party in the back, comb in the back pocket with the jacket. Like who was that in Disneyland? Who was that in Disneyland?

Joe 55:02

Who was up in Disneyland that day? I was on a Karen, huh?

Remo 55:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a little he had his pants tied up in a bunch for a bit. Yeah.

Joe 55:11

I was I was uh my foo's telling me I get like a Karen. Oh, really? Like an old man and shit, you know? No shit. Like these oh man.

Remo 55:23

Okay, look, I'm gonna tell you, look. Okay, so Junior, like Junior was all excited, he's having a good time, right? So he did it to me. He comes up to me, he's grabbing me, hugging me and pushing me and shaking me, like uh, but he's pushing me to the you know, and I'm like, relax, relax, no, but he's excited. He doesn't do Joe. Joe's a little lighter. Joe flies and ends up getting pushed into some people. The fucker pushes me, dude. Like I'm gonna say a lady, but but but it wasn't bad intention. But he was playing. But then but then but then Joe goes, Oh, you know, you like it, but I pushed in the front of the two couples to a couple, bro. I'm like, and then the the couple are like, what the fuck?

Joe 56:10

You know, like was and I was telling my food for like, you know what, see? Uh how do you like it? You're not gonna like it, right? I mean, it's just I was trying to show him, dude. But the thing is, but my point is that if I will do it, you do it to me, right? Okay, I you do it to me, okay. I'm gonna take it. Yeah, I'm gonna do all. But you almost put you push me in front of the lady, I almost hurt almost hit the lady, or I don't know what the fuck. And then now I go, and I do it to you, you're not gonna you're not gonna like it, you're gonna get mad. You know, that's what I'm that was my whole point. Yeah, yeah. But I didn't get mad, I was just trying to make a point. You know, I was just trying to point a point too.

Remo 56:45

The big dummy didn't understand what he was doing. He was just not happy I can knock a big kid.

Thee Gooch 56:49

Yeah, yeah.

Remo 56:50

I think I think he needed the helmet that day.

Thee Gooch 56:53

Where's that fucker at?

Remo 56:54

I kind of looked there, he was at work.

Joe and Thee Gooch 56:57

Yeah, I think he's working with his dad right now. Oh, really? Yeah, he wants to go to the beach today, but like the beach. Yeah, you know. Are we it, mama? I think so. We're it, we're it, yeah. So my turn. What kind of let me see what let me see your shirt? What's it say?

Remo 57:26

It says West Side 213, and has an aerial view of Echo Park. Oh, nice shirt, that's pretty bad.

Joe and Thee Gooch 57:34

Nice shirt. Where'd you get that at? My homeboy gave it to me. My homeboy scrappy. Oh, okay. Nice, nice, nice. Uh so my condolences to you, Gucci, and and yeah, Gooch, my condolences to you and the family, man. That shit was fucking I just can't imagine that the whole thing, you know. I mean, yeah, that was like I was thinking about it too. I was like, gosh, man. Crazy, man. It's fucking crazy. Moments of silence or what too much too much noise with the birds. Yeah.

Remo 58:26

Nah, you know I'm tripping down on the birds, right? You know when you go updoors and you hear birds chirping in the morning. You know what the fuck I wait. I was thinking about that shit yesterday when that whole May Day shit was going on, right? The Mayday protest and all that. You fucking the the helicopters, that's my motherfucking morning birds and shit all the time. Is it here?

Fire Safety Reminders And Closing

Joe and Thee Gooch 58:46

Yeah, yeah. Speaking of that, dude, I mean I want to cut this short, make it fast, but I'll make it a little bit more. Maybe we'll take it, maybe we'll take it another day. But what what they the protesters that uh the president Trump is the the king and all that stuff. When Prince Charles came in, everybody did a stand up ovation, all the democrats and liberals, like ah, yeah, and they're like, you know, you know, they shit. Yeah, they're all clapping and all that. And uh that's a stupid dude. I got the hypocrisy is real, dude. You know, so yeah. All right, then I think we're it gooch. Yeah, and uh sorry for everything and what you went through. And um every no everybody, if um you want to make a donation, gofundme.com. That you could uh reach out, get your camera phone. There's a QR code right there, scan it and anything counts for the family, the dad, and everything. My condolences to the dad. Let's go.

Remo 59:48

I'll probably right now.

Joe 59:50

And uh I hope they pulled through and everything. My my prayers uh for the kids that are they got involved in the fire. There's the QR code, everybody. If you want to scan it, I think this is it. Any final words, Gucci? You guys stay vigilant out there in your homes.

Joe and Thee Gooch 1:00:12

Anything is anything can fucking happen. Yeah, smoke detectors, smoke detectors, as soon as you just yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah. You know what? Um they're so they're they're so annoying though, but they they do come in handy. And um yeah, just uh make sure you have your smoke detectors connected and everything like that. And um what about you, Remo? What's your last you know?

Remo 1:00:39

And I agree with the smoke detectors. I sometimes I unplug them because you know I smoke in the house and shit, and and and you don't plug them because they go out because they smoke, but yeah, but you gotta make sure to plug them back in and you know be vigilant, yeah.

Joe and Thee Gooch 1:00:50

Yeah, when I'm cooking too, that they they just just they're sensitive and they go off. But um, other than that, I see I see the Gooch's uh condescending look. You have something to say? He has that condescending look. Like, yeah, I was gonna I was I was gonna say opening up a can of fucking raviolis is just a cookie uh joke. All right, then Gooch, uh Remo, thank you, and uh everybody stay safe out there. Um my prayers to the family. Rest in peace, uh Macy, and um God be with you. Alright, everybody. Um there's the QR code there. Make sure. Got the wrong one. Um scan your scan the the QR code there and um make a donation everything counts. All right, guys, thank you for listening. Thank you for tuning in, everybody. My name is Joe and Remo and Thee Gooch, everybody. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you for looking tuning in, everybody. Uh thank you for all your downloads. Um see you everybody. Bye.