Mukesh and Siva talk us through considerations in an SAP upgrade of any type, and proven methods to lower costs and achieve the right outcomes.
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Mukesh and Siva talk us through considerations in an SAP upgrade of any type, and proven methods to lower costs and achieve the right outcomes.
Music Selection: "Change"
Logisolve i4 Marketplace, a Logisolve Company Melinda Hyde #sap #leader #changemanagement #projects #linkedin #linked-in #podcast #logisolve #i4marketplace #it #consulting #friday
3:09.96
kelly99
And welcome to episode 2 in the Kelly Oneland Podcast we're talking Ecc to s 4 hanna upgrades on the call I have Shiva Shanamagan and makesh monka gentlemen thanks for being on the show. Yes, of course. So.
13:23.10
Mukesh Munka
Thank you Kelly.
13:24.30
Siva
Thank you for? Thank you for having us.
13:29.79
kelly99
So guys I want to talk about something that I know is near and dear to both of your hearts and that's how to lower costs within an a implementation and and so I'll just start out with that question for people that are considering an Ecc to s for hanna or upgrade or they are running those. Tools. Ah, but they want to add some modules. Are there any anything you recommend um to customers for for lowering costs when they're looking at new modules or looking to expand sap within their environments.
14:04.23
Mukesh Munka
So yeah, with that with ecctwo s four Hanna migration and like you know once they are on the s four s 4 actually gives them in a lot of flexibility to kind of enhance with the s se p. Btp platform that scp provides which is called business technology platform which allows you know the companies to do lot of ai ml stuff lot of analytics. You know the real-time analytics the predictive predictive analytics and you know any sense or process. That they currently have which they need to kind of enhance and kind of make it more robust for their needs. They can actually do that customization and development there without even writing a single line of code. So definitely with the s four hana there is a lot of flexibility that comes along with it but the whole question is like is the company ready for s four hanna if they are on Ecc then definitely there are lot of you know, none d-party tools. You know, ah that they could probably utilize you know which could probably bring a lot of ah new functionality and kind of bring down. Lot of cost for them that they are currently spending doing things manually. So but again it all depends on what areas that they are looking For example, you know, ah for any companies where they don't have a good you know, forecasting and planning process today you know? ah. There are a lot of tools that aree in the market for forecasting and planning as a None d-party toolssep itself has a tool called spiibp you know? Ah, but you know we recommend like you know? Ah, but there is a couple of tools which we have seen is to be like more effective. Then what sp brings to the table and which is like almost one third or onefour of the cost of ssep one of the tool being called giibgiib is a very specific forecasting and planning tool. You know that kind of provides the company who is specifically on ssep you know. Provides the company. The functionality to sit on top of sep utilize all the data that they are managing inside the Sep platform so they don't have to worry about any external integration. They don't have to worry about you know any errors that they could bring in any wrong data from outside. It will you absorb the data from your system you can create all the different algorithm that goes with your company can put all those calculations there and it will do everything that you need to do and kind of give you about what you should be following for the next three six nine twelve months
16:52.13
Mukesh Munka
And how much of a septi stock that you should be managing based on the twelve month history that you had in your company in terms of sales in terms of back order and what are the different market trends that are currently going on. It takes data from the external system as well. Based on that. And it kind of takes everything into consideration and then gives you you know Ah the the complete picture about what sort of forecast you should be looking at and how much of his talk that you should be maintaining in terms of your components or materials the same goes for the labor scheduling. Same goes for the capacity planning. But I think shiva you can add more details to it because I have just added the high level but I know there are few specific use cases that would certainly help Kelly to understand more about it. So.
17:44.84
kelly99
Yeah Shiva I know you you spent a lot of time in different None party tools as part of your efforts to lower costs for people when they're implementing and we can stick with with forecasting and planning because I know you're doing a lot of that these days with with what's happening with Covid and supply chains. In your experience does the the None d-party tools that are a approved like GIb. Are they effective for for your customers and in ah, planning and improving their ability to to work with their customers and suppliers to get product in the door and. And out to their customers in a timely manner.
18:22.78
Siva
They are effective. Um, in fact, any tool within Sap is is is useful for the customer but a tool like gib just speeds up the whole process of achieving that functionality. Um, with Gid it it sit's on top of SA. So there's no of building the interface and shuttling data back and Forth. So That's that's a huge plus point and and and it speeds up the implementation time for the customers but with it with a tool like gb. You can build pretty much any. Use case. For example, if you want to um, reduce your inventory or optimize your inventory. You could do that but before covid that that was the use case. But after Covid people wanted to stock up. Um Inventory at ah, different supply Points. So. With the tool like gb you could You could monitor the stock you could forecast her for at at each supply point and ah the tool. Not only helps you achieve these but then also allows you to monitor your supply chain and and keep them at the optimal level. Um, so. Before Covid. The goals were different but post Covid The goals are changing and in a changing environment. You need a tool like Gi Ib that could take care of issues in your supply chain. It's It's not strictly optimizing or reducing inventory which was the earlier case. But now with the changing Scenario. You have to be ready to adapt to any situation and without a tool like Gv. It will be pretty difficult out of the box s a yes you you could do some of these functionalities that Gv does. But it's it's going to be cumbersome to do all these transactions and multiple. Multiple steps and then take the data out into an X excel sheet and then perform some analytics and then bring back the data into Sap So It's It's pretty long process and a tool like Gv just helps customers to achieve that pretty quickly and rapidly.
20:29.77
kelly99
So Shiva For those listening who aren't familiar with these None party tools would you say that the tools that that you're recommending, Um, that are lower costs significantly lower cost than Sap Would you say they're of equal quality equal effectiveness or would you say there're. Better effectiveness or would you say they're not quite as effective but they're so much cheaper that you know you you recommend using them. Yeah.
20:57.15
Siva
So um, more than the cost the the speed in which they could do or analyze the data and come to conclusions. Um, these tools are pretty effective. Um, especially a tool like giv that sits on top of Snp. Where it's integrated into a it just provides the customers a single unified user interface to shuttle information or even jump from None screen to another within sap compared to other tools where you have to switch. Back and forth between these two 2 different user interfaces and make sure the data is moved to the other interface and perform analytics or perform digital analysis and then bring back the data into sap and somehow tie in those. Um. Results that you performed in the other tool and then connect them in Ncp so that those are all gone with the tool like gv so in a way they're they're much more effective than than I say be itself.
22:03.34
kelly99
And so you would both agree that you're part of the process of lowering an a implementation cost is is to look for viable alternatives that are either partners of Sap and they've proven themselves to be valuable and in an implementation.
22:18.59
Mukesh Munka
So.
22:22.66
kelly99
Um, maybe in in conjunction with that that strong emphasis on Frontend planning so that that you're always keeping business objectives front and center as you go through the long process of getting something something implemented and then you actually in use by your users is that is that kind of the 2 ways you you. You you try to save costs during one of these things.
22:42.71
Mukesh Munka
So absolutely Kelly Absolutely and you know as you rightly said like you know it's not just the cost. You know it's the effectiveness you know so with gi ib for the forecasting and planning like you know when we were doing. For a few of our clients like we kind of went through a very robust exercise of kind of going through around None to None different vendors and tools. You know that we kind of did all the comp of pros and cons about what is doing what you know so definitely with Giiv and with s seps. Own tool like you know the features and everythings are all same. You know, maybe with giv like know it was more easier because gi ib sits on top of Sep with other tools like you know Aiva Menson and also the se's own tool. They are all outside. Of that Ecc system. So in that way. There is definitely that integration piece that becomes like a nightmare because there could be some connection problems. There could be some data not aligning well but with giv definitely the functionality. They are not behind on anything what other tools can do. Definitely at par and in some cases because they sit on top of Sep and the datas are real time. You can develop lot of new functionalities which is not very easy to do in some other tools. So definitely considering all of that you know our clients like kind of like that. They've been. Using that and what they have seen is like in in the last six to eight months they have seen that their overall supply chain process had been optimized by at least None to 30% and is still improving every day. It.
24:24.17
kelly99
Well, that's fantastic I want to thank both of you for your time shiva shan magan makesh monka is always great to talk with both of you. You are listening to the Kelly Winland Podcast have a great Friday and weekend. Thanks.
24:36.72
Mukesh Munka
Thank you Kelly for having us. Thank you have a nice weekend. Everyone thanks.
24:40.86
Siva
Thank you.
24:43.52
kelly99
Awesome guys appreciate it I'll ah I'll I'll get this stuff in the next week here. It'll be ah, edited and all that stuff and we'll get one of these out probably next week or the week after depending on the lineup. Yeah.