The Side Hustle and Business Show with Eric Lindsey

From W-2 Engineer to Full-Time Investor: Adjusting After Interest-Rate Spikes with Lane Kawaoka

• Eric Lindsey • Season 1 • Episode 131

Lane Kawaoka started investing while working full-time as a civil engineer. When interest rates jumped and loans tightened, he paused new acquisitions, re-checked every assumption, and pivoted from quick cosmetic rehabs to ground-up multifamily development 🏗️. By building units for roughly $150 K and targeting exits around $200–250 K, he now builds in wider margins and stronger downside protection.


🔍 Things Discussed


Post-2008 rental cash flow looked steadier than stocks, sparking Lane’s first purchase.


Engineering discipline—spreadsheets, reserves, and strict assumptions—guided every decision.


A 20–30 % price reset (driven by higher rates) proved old underwriting no longer worked and pushed him to rethink strategy due to the interest-rate spike.


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Early years: dawn underwriting, lunch-hour lender calls, weekend property walks.


Market shift: lenders now top out near 60 % LTV, so investors must bring more equity than before.


Positive trend: deals with DSCR ≈ 2× are appearing again—an encouraging sign that healthier spreads are back on the table.


⚖️ How Lane Balanced Life, Family, W-2 & Real Estate


Delegated day-to-day tasks to property managers and virtual assistants, preserving family time.


Batched site visits on weekends and scheduled calls during breaks.


Built a multi-year pipeline (4–7 years) to smooth cash flow through future market swings.


🔑 Lane’s Current Business Focus: Strategic Growth in This Market (2025)


Conservative underwriting—account for higher debt costs and lower leverage.


Ground-up multifamily—new builds offer more control and longer asset life than 1970s rehabs.


Selective diversification—evaluating mobile-home parks, self-storage, and hotel conversions to balance risk.


⭐ Key Takeaways & Advice for Busy Professionals 💰


Track DSCR opportunities 📊—a 2× coverage ratio today can signal an amazing cushion if you can find them, though it is not required to make an investment.


Plan for lower leverage during inflationary environments 💵—with 60 % LTV common, line up extra equity early.


Pause when numbers break or don’t work in the market ⏸️—waiting beats forcing a thin deal.


Build a 4–7-year pipeline 📆—one downturn shouldn’t sink your strategy.


Quit last, not first ⏳—secure dependable cash flow before leaving a paycheck.


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