Embracing the Rest Cycle: Lessons in Surrender and Service

In this week's episode of Shattering Ceilings, Lauren and Megan dive deep into the concept of rest cycles and how they play a vital role in personal growth and success. Following her transformative coaching session with Allison, Lauren opens up about her recent struggles with energy and productivity as a Manifestor. The duo discusses the power of surrender, releasing attachment to outcomes, and shifting from a "get" mindset to one focused on service and value.

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Transcript

SC - Episode 106
[00:00:00] Lauren: Hey, everyone. Welcome at the shattering ceilings. It's Lauren.
[00:00:03] Megan: And Megan, and we are here on a Saturday morning recording a quick little episode for you guys. Last week you were listening to our interview with Allison, who is a, is she a life coach?
[00:00:18] Lauren: She's a life coach. Yeah. And I think she does business coaching too. I mean, she's, she does it all, you know?
[00:00:24] Megan: so what I feel like with a life coach, it gives you a very broad umbrella of like what you it's all aspects of life and Lauren actually booked a session with her this week. So we wanted to pop on and talk a little bit about what that experience was like and some of her takeaways. Mm
[00:00:39] Lauren: Yeah. So, you know, just to kind of give you some background information, guys. And we talk about human design and we're going to be talking more and more about human design. And I'm a manifestor, you know, and Megan's a generator. And so one of the biggest differences between a manifestor and a generator is Megan has consistent [00:01:00] energy, right?
[00:01:00] Lauren: Like when she's doing something that she loves and is finding joy and she can go forever like a freaking energizer bunny. Right.
[00:01:08] Megan: In theory.
[00:01:10] Lauren: In theory, in theory, right? Me on the other hand. I am not right. So like my sacral is not defined. That's what determines whether or not you have this battery. Right. And so mine is not defined.
[00:01:24] Lauren: So my energy comes actually from my throat, like that's my motor source. Right. And. It's not consistent. And so this is kind of like where I'm learning how to operate in this world now, which it can be a challenge because I'm used to being someone who's always like, go, go, go. But I found myself like July, August, where I had the drive in my head.
[00:01:52] Lauren: I knew what I wanted to do. I felt motivated in my head, but when it came to actually like doing the [00:02:00] things, it was like, I couldn't get myself started. I'm like, what the fuck is happening? Like this is, and it's so frustrating for me, you know, and I probably been telling Megan this now for two months, you know, and here we are in September and like, I'm like, why is this taking so long?
[00:02:15] Lauren: Like this rest cycle, right? It's the, we have rest cycles as manifestors, right? And so they can last. A week, a month, a year. And I'm just like, please Jesus, let it
[00:02:26] Megan: I know. Yeah, we were in a coaching call this week and our coach, Lauren, was like, I am in this rest cycle and it is absolutely destroying me. It's been two months. And she's like, Oh, it's only been two months. Sometimes people in a rest cycle for a year,
[00:02:40] Lauren: right. Two years. I'm like,
[00:02:41] Megan: Yeah, Lauren's eyes got so big.
[00:02:44] Lauren: yeah, I was like no, I, that can't happen. You know? And the thing is, I mean, Megan talked about this off, off camera, off pod. You know, the more I resist it. Right. What you resist persists. Right. So the more that I like, try to like [00:03:00] bully my way out of it, the more I feel like my body's just like, no, you're not ready.
[00:03:06] Lauren: You're not ready. Right. I just keep
[00:03:07] Megan: well, I think something important to point out and something that I think is actually the struggle with you is this idea that a recycle means that we are not producing. Yes, like, it just looks different, just like the same all of you girlies out there that know the week of your period, you're not gonna have the same energy as the rest of the month, like,
[00:03:28] Lauren: Mm. Mm.
[00:03:29] Megan: it doesn't mean that you can't get anything done, it just means the work looks a little bit different,
[00:03:33] Lauren: Exactly. That's
[00:03:34] Megan: have to take care of yourself and tend yourself very differently, and it's learning to let go of that, like, oh, no, I need to be on all the time, if I'm not at 120% And I'm not doing enough, which is a hard cycle to break, especially in the society where we, I mean, we can say we're getting away from hustle culture, but if you work in corporate at all, that it's all, what can you do?
[00:03:56] Megan: How fast can you do it? What can you do more
[00:03:58] Lauren: Right. Right. [00:04:00] It's just the world doesn't stop. Right. Like that's just the reality of things and things are going to still like pull your attention. And so, you know, with that, what I did notice and I'm going to eventually get to like our coach and call it Alison, but what I did notice is, and I said this on the call with Danielle, like, I had one of my.
[00:04:19] Lauren: Personal one of a high month in my, in my Arbonne business. And guys, I barely did shit. And I'm not saying that to brag or impress anyone. Cause I'm not happy with my, my results necessarily. Like my overall results. Right. But like, I noticed that I really didn't do a whole lot. I was consistent in, you know, servicing my, my current clients and, and coaching in that sense.
[00:04:44] Lauren: But like, otherwise, like, I didn't really do anything new. I didn't do any new, not, not a lot of new things. Right. And so again, Danielle said to us. That's the proof. Like that's the proof that you can be in a rest cycle and have a really successful personal [00:05:00] like sales month or whatever. You know what I mean?
[00:05:02] Lauren: But you got to lean into that and learn how to put systems in place. So
[00:05:06] Megan: Yeah.
[00:05:07] Lauren: brings me to my call with Alison on Thursday, who again, you guys, you guys are so you're in for more, right? She's going to be, we just got more episodes for you guys to
[00:05:17] Megan: a long interview.
[00:05:18] Lauren: long. Cause I mean, Alison is like full of stuff.
[00:05:21] Lauren: She's been, you know, in therapy, in coaching for years, and she's been a business owner and entrepreneur for, I guess, probably like, right, almost 20 years, probably at this point. So she has a well of knowledge to share. So anyway, we got a call me and her, and here's what she told me. And like, literally it flipped my like world and my energy around, like within like a day.
[00:05:47] Lauren: Okay. So she said to me, you know, even though like. Right. Like I focus on how can I serve, how can I add value in this world within again, my wellness business, within the podcast, within [00:06:00] family and friends and just whatever I do. Right. And at the end, I'm still looking for a result. Meaning like I, I, I have this pressure where I feel like And I, cause listen, we all do, right.
[00:06:13] Lauren: We all have to keep the lights on and food in our house. And we have bills, right? We have families and like my family, we run on a two income household. I need to provide. Right. So we have this pressure and she's like, or I was telling her, like, I still need to do and have results. And she's like, well, here's the thing.
[00:06:34] Lauren: She's like, you're in what she calls get energy, right? Like I need to get. A booking. I need to get a client. I need to get more listeners. I need to get whatever it may be right. Okay. Fill in the blank for whatever you do. Right. And she's like, when we're in that get energy, like that is going to keep you stuck where you're at.
[00:06:55] Lauren: Like you got to where you're at. Right. And I have, I've gotten to a [00:07:00] great success in what I do, but in order for me to go to that next level and to really expand, which was my word of the year, if you guys remember, right. You have to sit in a place of service, she says. So she said to me tomorrow, I want you to wake up.
[00:07:14] Lauren: And instead of thinking about all the things that you need to do and all the results that you need to have, I want you to think of who can I serve today? And what can I do to be a value and of service in this world? And I just want you to sit there and I want you to sit there as much as possible. And I thought to myself, wow, that's really.
[00:07:31] Lauren: It's a really good idea. So that was, you know, I woke up, well, that was Thursday. And so Thursday I had a great day, had great conversations. And Friday, yesterday I woke up and I was like, okay, I'm going to focus on. Letting go again of the result. And I had a conversation on Thursday with a local business owner.
[00:07:51] Lauren: And I'm going to give you like a little pull the curtain back for you guys. Me and Meg were talking about doing a wellness retreat. And we were just like, we were thinking [00:08:00] about it, doing it this summer. And we're like, we're not, I don't know if we're ready yet. Like we just couldn't pull the resources of what we needed together fast enough.
[00:08:06] Lauren: And we all, we both have a lot going on personally. And we're just like, I don't know if I can do this. Right. And we didn't
[00:08:11] Megan: And well, I think it was very much one of those get things, right? Like, we need to do this to get more interest in our podcast to get more interest in the services that we offer. It wasn't, I just want to pause on that, like, the service without the outcome, because it can be so easy. And I think that especially language now, like, everybody is in this new language paradigm of like, oh, we're in service.
[00:08:33] Megan: We're not hustling. We're open to receiving. But if you are like, Okay. Quote, open to receiving, but still attached to the outcome, you're not actually surrendering, right? And so we can say the words, but we have to get into it in our actual
[00:08:48] Lauren: We embody it. That's the key is the embodiment piece. And like, listen, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that that's what most of us are missing. Most of us understand and can feel it. [00:09:00] Comprehend like what you were just saying, that we want to be of service and we want to give value and we want to be open to receiving and surrender the outcome and how, okay, you can think that way, but are you feeling that in your body?
[00:09:13] Lauren: Are
[00:09:13] Megan: you believe
[00:09:14] Lauren: way? You
[00:09:15] Megan: Are you saying that because it's the appropriate thing to say? And in theory, that's what you want. But that desire to have more, get more, need more, trumps it.
[00:09:25] Lauren: Exactly. And I think that it's, it's, that's the hardest part and that cannot, it can't really be taught, man. Like that's something that you really have to. Actively pursue within yourself, right?
[00:09:40] Megan: have to experience it to understand it. Like, it's, I think you having the call with Allison and then immediately being put into an opportunity where you could sit and say, okay, here I have the opportunity to like, I'm meeting a completely new person. There may be nothing to come out of this conversation besides me knowing that.
[00:09:58] Megan: It was a great conversation.[00:10:00] 
[00:10:00] Lauren: So that's what happened. So like this woman who has a beautiful venue on a farm, she posted on, it's gorgeous. She posted on Facebook. Oh, back to our one sec. So anyway, the location was issue with me and Meg finding like a location for our wellness retreat that could hold enough people, but also have shelter because God forbid the weather sucks that day.
[00:10:21] Megan: Right, where we weren't having to put
[00:10:22] Lauren: all the logistics.
[00:10:23] Megan: you know, yeah, like we wanted it to feel the way and be the way that we want to present. Cause there can be a drive to like, okay, we've got to get this done in this timeline. So this is what I want it to look like, but we can be okay with it looking like this.
[00:10:36] Megan: And I think that's another thing that comes up a lot too, is like, you have to wait for what it is that you actually want. We've talked about one guy here that wanted clients that had no less than like 100, 000 to invest. It took him almost a year to get that first client, but he knew what
[00:10:50] Lauren: he waited.
[00:10:51] Megan: what quality that, right.
[00:10:52] Megan: And he stayed regulated in that waiting, right? He could. Mhm.
[00:10:58] Lauren: Right. And that's, and [00:11:00] so, so that's like the back end of that. Right. And so then I, I, this woman has this venue, beautiful farm. She posts and she says she needs vendors. So I reach out and I talked to her about how. You know, I can, I can coach and teach nutrition and then, you know, certified in human design, you know, and she wants to chat with me.
[00:11:21] Lauren: And she's, you know, so she gives me her number and I call her on Thursday afternoon, we have about a 45 minute conversation. It was beautiful. She's like, come and see the farm. And I said, and I said to her, I said, you know, it's funny. I said my grandmother was a florist and owned two shops and here you have a flower farm.
[00:11:37] Lauren: And my grandfather had a beautiful restaurant Marina. Like I grew up in the service industry. I said, so you kind of have like two of the things that I'm used to in my life. Like, right. Which I think obviously connects. Right. So I go there yesterday. And I end up spending two hours with this woman and I'm, we're walking the property where [00:12:00] then we're inside the venue and we're sitting at this kitchen table and we're just talking and we're just, I mean, the dreams are just flowing and the possibilities are flowing and I'm excited and I'm not talking about like, What I can get, right?
[00:12:15] Lauren: Like we're, I'm talking about like, what are all the things and the possibilities that you could do here? What are the ways that we can add value? And this woman is so beautiful. And she said, I just want a space where women can get off their phones. Cause everyone's at home on their phones. They can come and they can be in community.
[00:12:31] Lauren: They can learn how to take care of themselves and they can love each other. And I was like. This is exactly what lights me up. I was just like, so excited about it. And I just knew in that moment, and then it hits me, like I'm sitting there at this table and I'm like, Oh my God. I'm like me and Megan wanted to do a retreat and we didn't have a location.
[00:12:50] Lauren: This is where we'll do it. Like this is it. She goes, yes, you could totally do it here. And so anyway, I left that conversation. And when I left. She says to me, thank you so much [00:13:00] for coming today and, and staying here with me and chatting about all these different things. This has been such a pleasure, like chatting with you.
[00:13:07] Lauren: And I just left with my cup so full and I came home and my head's like spinning of all these ideas. I'm still excited about it. Right. And like, that is truly what it feels like to sit in service. And this is the abundance that's possible. I just made a new friend, right? I'm going to call her a friend. I know she's gonna be a friend, right?
[00:13:29] Lauren: I just made, you know, I know that the, the opportunities are, are endless. And I also know that we're going to cultivate this beautiful community that women can be a part of, right?
[00:13:42] Megan: Which is what you're all about.
[00:13:44] Lauren: Which is what I'm all about. So again, like, and I had, it was just dropped out of the, it was just dropped out of the sky. Do you know what I mean?
[00:13:51] Lauren: So like, that is like my, that is the lesson, right? That was the proof. And here's the thing, like, I have to look for it and I have to look and like, I'm, this is my [00:14:00] lesson that I wanted to share with you guys is that you have to look at these things and realize that this isn't just a coincidence, right?
[00:14:06] Lauren: That this happened this way. You have to look at it at, okay, I was taught something on Thursday. I implemented it quickly. I changed my feeling, like my
[00:14:17] Megan: Which is your nature, right? Like that's your nature to just quick, quick changes,
[00:14:23] Lauren: Quick implementation, I think, right? Like
[00:14:26] Megan: what I mean. Implementation
[00:14:27] Lauren: a lot of shit, right? And a lot of times we miss out on what's possible in learning those things because we we think that we have to Learn it study it practice it practice it practice like just fucking start
[00:14:40] Megan: sometimes you just have to be it, right? I think this is a perfect example of, like, you talking about being in that get mode, right? It's not even that, and I don't know why this language is sticking out to me so much, like, you said you gotta look for it. It's not even looking for it, because looking for it is trying to get something, right?
[00:14:55] Megan: You sat down and got still enough that you could see it. [00:15:00] There's something very different than searching and seeking and grabbing for. Mm
[00:15:05] Lauren: maybe looking for, it's not the right word, realizing that what was happening was in alignment was, was purposeful, what was on purpose. Like this isn't something that I was searching for, but it found me even though like, and in a way, like, yes, I am searching for this, like in my head and my body and all that, but you know what I mean?
[00:15:26] Lauren: But I'm not actively looking is my, I guess how I'm trying to say, do you know what I mean? So I had to realize that this. Opportunity. This situation, this experience was on purpose. And so how many times do we miss things because we're not realizing that like, Oh, this could be it. And then what's even funnier.
[00:15:45] Lauren: Let me go one step further. Okay. So just tell Megan, like this whole story too, and like connecting the dots. So then later last night, my friend comes over and I'm telling her, I'm all jazzed about it. I'm telling her all about it. And she goes, she's [00:16:00] talking about her cousin. She's talking about how, and, and Nicole said to me, she goes, you, she goes, this is like your wheelhouse.
[00:16:07] Lauren: Like you gather people like you, you put things together. And that's what I do. I'm like a gatherer. Of people. That's like one of my things. Right. And she goes my cousin, you know, she's, she's in Maryland and she's holistic practitioner. And she was saying how, you know, there's not like a, like a professional network of holistic providers.
[00:16:26] Lauren: Like, you know, when you look up a doctor and you, you go on a hub on online or your insurance or whatever, and you can find, you know, or, or even like, it's not web MD, but it's like something like that list doctors, you know, I'm
[00:16:37] Megan: like where you search you need an orthopedic surgeon in
[00:16:41] Lauren: and they bring up all the people and they rate them and all that, right?
[00:16:44] Lauren: You can leave reviews. She's like, there's nothing like that for Holistic. She's like, we, she's like, my cousin was like, we literally have spreadsheets, like, you know, and she's like,
[00:16:54] Megan: Facebook groups where you're like, hey, do you know anybody in this
[00:16:56] Lauren: right. I'm like online, like
[00:16:58] Megan: recommended people. Yeah.[00:17:00] 
[00:17:00] Lauren: Right. And she's like, she's like, wouldn't it be cool if you could like make a network of these people?
[00:17:05] Lauren: And I'm like, ding, like another light bulb went off. I had a new guys. Remember we had Mitch, the modern medium on. Let almost a year ago. Okay. And I had a private session with him first before we brought him in the show. And he told me last November, he goes, Lauren, you're going to have like this. He's like, I see like a web and I see like circles and I see like different, maybe like.
[00:17:29] Lauren: Practitioners, healers, teachers. He's like, I don't know, but like, you're going to like link it all together. And I like, that's what I see. And I didn't know what he meant like back then. And then when she said that last night, I was like, Oh my God, is this what Mitch is talking about? Like, could this be right?
[00:17:45] Lauren: And so again, like going back to the rest cycle, Meg, if you can sit in it and you can really like, it's not where I do nothing. Cause obviously I'm not doing nothing, but this is like a big time of if I can really. [00:18:00] Surrender. Can these things just come to me? Right? Can I attract and be inspired? And this could be a time of like great ideas, right?
[00:18:10] Lauren: During these rest cycles.
[00:18:12] Megan: Right. And I mean, so we've talked about this before, as far as Chinese medicine goes it's like the winter, right? It doesn't mean you're not doing anything. You are just consolidating your resources and taking things in and letting things wash over you. So then when you are ready to be an activity, all the groundwork is laid.
[00:18:29] Lauren: Mm Hmm. Yeah. Mm Hmm.
[00:18:33] Megan: And I really think I just can't stop thinking about the attachment to the outcome, like not having an attached. If you had gone into that conversation with some sort of need attached to it, I have to see how this serves me. The conversation probably would have gone very differently because your mindset would have been different.
[00:18:51] Megan: So the thoughts that you had, the ideas that came up would have been different. It would have changed the trajectory of the conversation.
[00:18:58] Lauren: A hundred percent. And [00:19:00] that's, and that's honestly like, and you know, we're taught this like in, in like in business and, and, and social media, like, you know, adding value. And as soon as you mentioned your pitch, like lose people, right? So why aren't we doing that even like in regular conversation or even like how we're thinking about things, right?
[00:19:19] Lauren: It goes deeper than just how you're presenting business, how you're presenting social media. It goes into everything. And you know, like what I said to, to Allison was I learned back in 2021, and I think I've talked about this before in the pod, like, you know, I learned I had burnout in 2021 and I had to really take a look at how I was operating in business and switch things and go really into transformational, like.
[00:19:46] Lauren: Conversations and relationships and things like that, and really learn how to serve differently. And Megan, you say this all the time. And I, I said to Allison, I thought I was already doing that. And then I realized, no, I am, but [00:20:00] this is a step further. This is a deeper lesson. And so, like, Meg, you say all the time, we learn lessons.
[00:20:06] Lauren: But we will continue to learn them at deeper levels as we go. Right. It's like, okay, you got level one, you got level five. There's more, there's like a million more levels to go. You know what I
[00:20:17] Megan: go deeper and deeper. You know, I was listening to Jenna Zoe, who is like very big in the human Zoey with we've been saying it
[00:20:25] Lauren: Zoe. . It's Zoe.
[00:20:27] Megan: to her. Yes. I know. Cause I was like, Ooh, they
[00:20:30] Lauren: Everyone says, Jenna. Z.
[00:20:32] Megan: It's Zoe. I listened to her on her podcast. I know. I know, but so I'm listening to it and something that she talked about she has like a co host or somebody that works for her that pops in, you know, randomly throughout the episode and she said something about a spiritual awakening and Jenna was like, you know, I hope that for people like a spiritual awakening.
[00:20:52] Megan: It's not something that just happens once or every 5 years or a big milestones. Like, The awakenings continue to happen in small [00:21:00] places on a daily, weekly, monthly basis, because it's you coming home to your spirit, right? And when we get caught up in the needs of the mundane, of paying the bills, of getting the more business, of, you know, pushing ourself one step further in our career, trying to get the titles, when we're chasing those things, we are so disconnected from spirit.
[00:21:21] Megan: Right? That's what a spiritual awakening is, is remembering, coming home to yourself a little bit more. Oh, my gift, Lauren Wheeler, is to bring people together, is to create networks, is to provide a space where a community can thrive, right? All of those things that you're trying to get all the time come to you when you're operating from that place of spirit, right?
[00:21:44] Megan: Sticking with the intuition, letting the ego go. The ego says you have to go get. The intuition says. Follow this line, right? Talk to this woman. Have the conversation. Be a vessel open to receive. Everything else will come together.
[00:21:59] Lauren: And letting it [00:22:00] flow. Like that's that thing too. It's really about flow and there's something else I thought about and just, Oh, and realizing that you already have enough already have enough, you know? And I think sometimes that can be difficult because listen, I, I am not speaking from a place of like privilege and all of that, because I understand that things are difficult out there right now.
[00:22:24] Lauren: And I see it. I know it. I, I see the struggle. I know there's a lot of people that aren't thriving, that are having trouble putting food on the table and they're in that desperate mode right now. And I understand that. And I also think that we have to embody this place of like, I have enough wherever you are
[00:22:52] Megan: Or enough is available. So like, I think it can be really easy to say
[00:22:56] Lauren: enough is available.
[00:22:58] Megan: Right, enough is available. And [00:23:00] if all of your basic needs aren't being met, that of course is like the first and most important thing, right? So, it doesn't mean that you go quit your job and start the dream business. It means that you start taking those tiny little steps on a day to day basis to regulate yourself so that you have the capacity to see where more resources can come in.
[00:23:17] Megan: Right? And support you into getting out of that place where your needs are not being met. Cause if that's not happening, then it's impossible to go into this huge manifestation mind. Like, you, we don't have the capacity. That's not
[00:23:28] Lauren: Right. Well, I was, I was, I'm actually reading the book abundance now by Lisa Nichols, who was in the secret and she came from a background that was not. She wasn't, she wasn't, I wouldn't say poverty, but I mean, they weren't, you know, they were scraping by and, and then as an adult, like she, you know, had a child and she says what, when we had nothing, I still embodied that we had enough, we ate weenies and beanies every day, or, you know, [00:24:00] spaghetti and butter noodles every day.
[00:24:02] Lauren: But I got creative and we had different names for them. And it never felt like lack because of where she was in her head. Right. She was, you know, nickel and diamond and trying to rub two pennies together. Right. But at the same time, she didn't look at it as lack. She always looked at it as I have enough.
[00:24:25] Lauren: I have my son, I have my health. We have a roof over our head. Like we are always taken care of. Right. You know what I mean? So like, I
[00:24:32] Megan: looking for the areas in your life that you are rich, right? And that's where the regulation piece comes in. As you can see, like, okay, I have a healthy child. I have a strong relationship. I have,
[00:24:43] Lauren: Mm
[00:24:43] Megan: you know, a job that is stable. Whatever it is that you have in abundance in your life, focus there.
[00:24:50] Lauren: Focus there. Exactly. Because if you're focusing on what you don't have, you will continue to not have it again. What you,
[00:24:59] Megan: can tell you that
[00:24:59] Lauren: [00:25:00] you resist will persist, persist, right? Yes.
[00:25:03] Megan: Yeah. Sometimes my job is very chaotic. Okay. And I can get caught in the loop. I work at a place where there's, there's actually physical violence. Like I broke up a fight between teenagers last week. And sometimes when there's, A group of patients in that are more agitated and aggressive towards each other or staff, it can be really easy to get into the cycle of like, I'm unsafe at work, right?
[00:25:25] Megan: This is chaotic. I'm so tired when I go home. All the things that feel heavy. And then it just brings more of like, no joke, my classes will go from being the calm space that everybody's able to decompress it to pure chaos in class. And a lot of it I found, and this has been me tracking it for the last two years.
[00:25:43] Megan: Has to do with the way that I show up. My mindset. Right? If I go into the class being prepared for chaos, chaos is coming to me.
[00:25:50] Lauren: Yeah, a hundred percent. Right. And that's one thing Allison said to me on Thursday too. She's like you have to find you can always find [00:26:00] safety She's like you can always choose safety in yourself And that's by again getting like literally putting your hand over your heart and saying like I am safe here I have enough here, you know to be like and calling out the abundance in your life and bringing focus to that You know,
[00:26:18] Megan: Yeah, so this was supposed to be a short little conversation that turned into a longer conversation. We've taken no, no apologies. We've taken you all over the fucking universe with this conversation.
[00:26:30] Lauren: it's all about abundance and flow and surrender and all the things. But I mean, like, yeah, when, when
[00:26:35] Megan: we also just low key argued about how to pronounce somebody's name.
[00:26:38] Lauren: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:39] Megan: So I hope you guys enjoyed that. It was a, it was a friendly debate.
[00:26:44] Lauren: Yeah. Yeah. I hope that you guys take something out of this and if you find that it was helpful and you find that probably it'll be helpful for someone else, please share it.
[00:26:55] Megan: Yeah. Or if you're like, man, I'm stuck in that lack. I can't find [00:27:00] the abundance. Fucking message us. Let's talk about it. Let's
[00:27:03] Lauren: Yeah,
[00:27:04] Megan: we would love to be of service in that way.
[00:27:07] Lauren: Yes. I think that we could totally, totally help you there for sure. So thanks for listening guys. We'll see you on the other side.