Daniel: 0:27

Hello, and welcome to the second episode of four, two dash six podcast. I am Daniel Aguilar and here with me is Jonathan Aguilar, John, how's it going?

Jonathan: 0:38

Going pretty well going pretty well. Keeping busy, a lot of things, you know, happening around the household. What about yourself? It

Daniel: 0:45

was a busy day for you because you had someone start school today.

Jonathan: 0:52

Yeah. Yeah. Uh, my oldest, sorry, kindergarten today. How exciting? Pretty exciting. Uh, that's something that's, uh, I mean, each year I'm gonna learn more and more cuz you know, uh, this is only the second school year of that we were going through. So, um, yeah, getting back in the routine of being back in school season and then also my youngest here in six months. Congratulations.

Daniel: 1:19

Yeah. Congratulations. Big day in the Aguilar household., yeah. Going back to school, I mean, it's really hard to, in my experience to go from summer schedule to school schedule and getting the kids yeah. Out of bed at a certain time, going through the routine and not just nighttime also morning. Waking up. Oh yeah. Having to, to hit your checklist and stuff. So we're lucky our school's literally down the street. It's like, I believe six, seven houses down. So we don't have to worry about fighting traffic, loading her up in the car. We could simply just walk and about three to four minutes she's there. So we avoided that situ. So it was just getting her ready, breakfast, all that stuff.

Jonathan: 2:11

Yeah. With us. So last year when my oldest was going to CK, uh, he has his younger brother. Um, and so I would load them both up in the car drop. And when I dropped them off, got them both out, walked into the, you know, The fence, let him go in. And then I would take, you know, my, uh, second son back to the car, load him up, then take him to our in-laws. Now I have a third son and, uh, I'm probably gonna have to carry that car seat yeah, but then I walk him out too. So you're, you're very lucky just being down the street.

Daniel: 2:43

Yeah. Yeah. Hope you're ready. So what did you think? Episode one in the books.

Jonathan: 2:50

A lot of notes were taken that's for sure. Uh, for everyone that's listening. Thank you for coming back. That's very brave of you.

Daniel: 2:57

well, I should be said that first, that Jonathan and I have always been the glass half full kind of guy. Oh, we're always positive, positive. We're very positive. And so the stuff that people responded back to us, the critiques. I already had in my head, that's what we needed to work on, but I was happy with the content itself. The overall,

Jonathan: 3:25

yeah, overall, I, I was pretty, pretty happy with, but, um, definitely a lot of tools need to be sharpened to, to go where we want to be. Um, but yeah, I mean, some of the feedback that I got, um, you know, people said, oh, you did a good job, but you know, I would kind of work on this or that. And. I definitely see you and I making those adjustments and improvements. And so I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how close we get to that bar we wanna reach.

Daniel: 3:54

Yeah, absolutely.

Jonathan: 3:55

Absolutely. What about you? What, what do you think about the podcast?

Daniel: 3:58

Well, first of all, I just want to give a big shut out to Ohio and our friends all the way back in Germany. We did have a listener from Ohio. And Germany that listened to our podcasts. So nice. Yeah. So that was exciting to, to see wasn't just, locally family and friends, people that we don't know were actually listening in. So that's awesome. And I noticed too, are Instagram followers went up after the episode, so, so good things, good things are coming, but I was happy with it. I was very happy with it. I, like I said, I, I like the content, couple things I would probably work on as far as maybe like our conversation. It's weird. It's, it's totally weird hearing your voice on your way to work. And so then I'm gonna have to get used to, but yeah, it was a lot of fun and I look forward to everything that's gonna happen ahead. Like the more recordings, so, oh yeah. Okay, so let's go to our next segment. Jonathan, how was your weekend?

Jonathan: 5:09

Pretty good. Pretty good. So I have a little short story and I have a confession to make. So, uh, here in our household, we don't wear our shoes that we wear outside inside the house. I had to kind of help keep the forks clean and everything. And, um, my wife suggested to me for one of my slippers I wear inside, cuz I go through slippers pretty quickly, uh, to get Crocs. And I was always turned off by them. Never thought that it would be someone that light CROs or they just looked weird to me. So I kind of brushed it off. And then, uh, after about a month of when she suggested it, I saw on Amazon, you can do like the, try it out for like seven days before they charge. So I was like, why not? You know what I have to lose. So I ordered some and I'm not gonna lie as soon as I put'em on. I, I really, really like them. So, uh, I'm a CROs guy now, so I enjoy CROs. They're comfortable, those holes on the top, let my feet, you know, air out. It's it's nice when

Daniel: 6:07

you're a dad, I think it's important to feel comfortable 24 7. So you gotta do what you gotta do. So no judgment here, you know,

Jonathan: 6:17

So, uh, so yeah, so that was, so that was something that like, uh, that was life changing for me. But, um, as far as the weekend, um, had some fun with the kids washing the truck. They, uh, they had a blast got to wear, suck'em down with the hose, which is always fun. Um, took'em out. They have like one of those little toy Jeeps that they ride. That was a good time. They enjoyed that. Almost hit a couple cars, so real fun stuff. And uh, oh, uh, we made, uh, some s'mores on Saturday night. We over the stove, they enjoyed it. They had fun. So it was good times. It was good times. It,

Daniel: 6:57

it, it tastes better if they're coming from a fire than a stove.

Jonathan: 7:02

Well, very well, technically it was a fire there's gas instead

Daniel: 7:06

of wood. So outdoor fire. And you have a fire pit. What happened?

Jonathan: 7:12

Yeah. When you have three kids. The youngest is six months loading up wood. And then just to put it out pretty much almost right away. It's not worth it. It's easier on the stove.

Daniel: 7:26

Ah, disappointed in you, John disappointed, but it's okay. Again, we're positive. We're a half glass, half full podcast, so, so I'm glad you gotta enjoy a delicious Smore. So not bad.

Jonathan: 7:39

Let me ask you, how do you like your smore? How do you like your marshmallow? Do you like your burnt toast?

Daniel: 7:44

All right. So my favorite smore is the Graham cracker marshmallow melted just a little bit. I don't like it burnt. So once it starts to become gooey, I take it off and I tend to not use Hershey's. I use Reese's pieces. okay. Reese's person

Jonathan: 8:08

fancy with it.

Daniel: 8:09

Yeah. So game I did it one time. It was a game changer. Never going back to Hershey's. Just, Reese's pieces circle candy on top, on the bottom marshmallow sandwich between two ground crackers. There it is.

Jonathan: 8:28

To try that out. So. Uh, similar to you. I don't, I mean, if the marshmallow burns, I'm fine with that. Ideally I like the outside. Nice and brown toasted where the inside's super gooey and, um, we actually use, uh, we do use Hersheys, but we use the cookies and cream. That's a, a nice little twist to it that we've done. I mean, nothing wrong to classic. Always enjoy that, but, uh, just spin it up a little. We, we do cookies and cream. Oh, not bad,

Daniel: 8:58

not bad. What about your

Jonathan: 9:00

weekend? Well,

Daniel: 9:01

my weekend was a little different than yours. Saturday woke up, got to play some tennis with some buddies, had a wonderful time. Then came home, had to print out some stuff for the following day and then the family Hopped in the car. And we went to go watch our God daughter, Layla play her soccer game. She won. I think it was like four, five to zero. And congratulations, cuz she scored a goal. So at a girl, very, very proud of her. So the hija was coming off, coming off strong. And then I'll get to this in a minute, but she already had to go. We had to go, as I said in the last podcast that we're having some work done at our house and. we had to go back to the house that night to, take care of a few things. Mm-hmm um, yeah. And then Sunday, got the family, as you know, family got together for our family draft for fantasy football. That was fun. And came back home, spend a day with the family until Sherry and I had to go back to the house to finish what we started from the previous night. So it was a mix and match. There was times where it's very important, I think. And I think you would agree, John, that it's important to take a little time for yourself, especially as a dad, cuz you need to, you need to release some stress. You need that therapeutic activity, time to yourself. And so, I got to do that on Saturday with tennis, with my friends and then Sunday at the fantasy football draft, so, oh yeah. Yeah. That's

Jonathan: 10:49

completely agree. Um, there's a lot of dads out there that are just doing what they can, any way they can to help out the family, whether it's, you know, going to get. Dinner, taking the trash out, just doing one thing after another, um, putting the baby's sleep and not saying, you know, the other parent doesn't do that also, but for both parents it's expo, it's exciting, exciting, and important to take some me time and just kind of do something that you enjoy and, you know, puts a different type of smile on your face.

Daniel: 11:21

Absolutely. All right. So yeah. Sounds like we both had good weekends and. okay, so next segment, what's hot. What's not. So this is where John and I are gonna pick, two things, that can be personal or news related. And we'll have a, a little discussion about that topic. John, did you wanna go first?

Jonathan: 11:46

Sure. Uh, so for my hot, I'm gonna go with. Fancy football drafts. I like you mentioned, we had, you know, one of ours this past weekend on Sunday. It was awesome getting together with, you know, uh, that one was with family. So with cousins, uncles, and everyone, um, just, you know, enjoying ourselves, having some fun, cracking some jokes. Um, it was awesome. I just had a blast. We have another one coming up this weekend that I'm really looking forward to. Um, just having some beers and enjoying the good. uh, yeah, one plus it helps when you have a good draft, which

Daniel: 12:20

I did. Yeah. Right. So we'll. Yeah. So that kind of goes into the one I wanted to talk about and football is back like, from here on out. I don't know if you realize this starting this Saturday up until the first week of February, there will be college and pro football. College football starts this weekend and then right behind it is the NFL season. And like John said, we're both fantasy football fanatics. And so, yeah, I can't wait. We have our, the draft, I would say we care about the most, this, this Saturday of coming Saturday. I've been doing it for 16 years. No. Yeah. 16 years. 16. Yeah. I think. And so

Jonathan: 13:09

it's our Christmas. Yeah. Is what it is. Pretty much. We count down to it. We can't sleep the night before and we just enjoy it so much. Absolutely.

Daniel: 13:17

My second think of what's hot is, uh, game of Thrones. Are you a, a game of Thrones?

Jonathan: 13:25

I am. I, I do enjoy it. I haven't, uh, I think the first episode was what yesterday. Yeah. So for

Daniel: 13:32

those who don't know a new show, the game of Thrones, it was a Preco to the original show. And so a lot of fanatics are going crazy. I've never seen game of Thrones. I've heard great things about it, but I just haven't took the time to, to watch.

Jonathan: 13:51

how can your hot thing be the game of Thrones and you not watch game of Thrones?

Daniel: 13:54

It's one of the things that are trending right now in the news. So every, like I said, it was a very popular show and I'm thinking of watching it. How about this? How about this? How about this? If, if you think, if you would like, if you think it's a good idea for myself to watch Hema throne, And I'll do a little recap every week. Let me know. And either the comments below or message us at four, two dash six podcasts on Instagram or Twitter.

Jonathan: 14:28

I I, so I think you'll like it, it's just, I know it's not your, uh, your go to cuz you're a big comedy guy, but uh, I don't think you'll be disappointed at all. It's okay. It's a, it was a great

Daniel: 14:39

show. Yeah. Yeah. And then anything that's not training for you these days or this week.

Jonathan: 14:48

so, um, it's good. And I mean, it comes with its pros and cons, but. Back to school seasons back in. So that means, like you mentioned earlier, getting the kids up earlier, getting them ready, um, hitting that checklist of, you know, breakfast, brushing teeth, go to the restroom, get dressed. And when you have multiple kids, it's just that much more of a task. Uh, Yeah. Today was the first time of waking up early. And not only the kids have to get back into school shape, but I had to get back into school shape of waking up early and going again.

Daniel: 15:23

Yeah. So like when I brought up, school schedule going from summer Schedule to, to school schedule that's for the kids, but no one really talks about the parents, you know, cuz you're going to bed maybe a little bit later trying to prep everything for the next morning. And now you're, we are also waking up earlier.

Jonathan: 15:42

What kind of, what kind of person are you as far as that? Cause me, I'd rather stay up late, get everything done as much as I can. So that way I don't have to wake up as early in the morning. I know my wife, she's a morning person. She rather go to bed earlier at night and then wake up early and get things done. I

Daniel: 15:59

think that's a tough one. I think we're more like your wife. you guys are. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because warning people, because our daughter sometimes will change her mind, like, okay, I'm gonna wear this tomorrow, but then she wakes up and it's like, ah, you know what? I might want to wear something else. and so we're back to square one. So I didn't think it was gonna be overcast

Jonathan: 16:25

today. So

Daniel: 16:27

I think, yeah, so usually the routine is getting her up, getting her in the shower, brushing tea. Actually, she doesn't brush her teeth after she eats breakfast and then, right. Getting dressed. And the, the battle for, for us is getting her hair done. Girls are a little different than boys. And so

Jonathan: 16:48

I looked

Daniel: 16:48

that on that one. Yeah. Yeah. So that's where the battle comes in in the morning. So, and that's something you can't really do anything the night before? We've tried combing it the night before. So it won't be as bad as the morning, but you're still gonna have a few knots and it's gonna be a little uncomfortable. What's not training is construction. Uh, so we got true. We got as the last podcast, I said that we were having some work, done the bathroom in the kitchen. Now we got news over the weekend that they're gonna have to rewire the whole house. Sherry. And I had to go back to the house and pack everything, make sure nothing was up against the walls. So when they go inside the walls, they have room to work with. So we were basically going back and forth all weekend long to the, to the house. And so, yeah, it's, it's uncomfortable, but hopefully it'll be done sooner and later. So you need to hope for the best. Like I said glasses half full. So trying, trying to be positive.

Jonathan: 17:57

I had a boy. Yeah. Uh, but to be honest with you, with the construction, um, on one of my routes to work, there's some construction and that on top of again, back to school season, more people driving out there now dropping kids off at school, um, takes me longer to get to work now.

Daniel: 18:15

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. School traffic. Yeah. Forget about it. All right. So should we jump into the topic for tonight? Let's do it. All right. So the pregnancy, so last episode, we talked about getting the news that we were, how we reacted when we became dance. Right? Finding out that information, what was it like to process that information? And so today we're gonna focus on the nine months. I think this is an interesting topic, because usually when you think pregnancy, I think the first thing that comes to mind is the woman. Right. And it should be because you know, she's gonna go through an emotional, physical, long journey, but there's a lot of things dads have to deal with as well. Wouldn't you agree?

Jonathan: 19:05

Mm-hmm oh yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, as a dad, because your body's not going through those changes, you're just trying to see what you can do to help out in any way you can. And, um, we kind of get lost in the background sometimes with just, okay, what I need to do next, what I need need you next. And we don't kind of really take, take a step back and realize what's happening through, through those nine months.

Daniel: 19:31

Yeah. So John, I made a list and I thought we can go through. Share our opinions about it. And what was it like to go through the pregnancy with our lives? Yeah, that's fair. All right. So my first one, these are in any particular order, I just made a list and made some notes to go along with it. First one, normal. This was, this is basically one of the biggest. In your life. Right? And so freaking out feeling stressed, getting panic attacks. It's normal, it's normal. You're not alone. Every dad goes through this and I touched a little bit about it on the last episode, but it's normal to have these thought. So like what's gonna happen. You don't know what the outcome's gonna be. You know, you're not worried, you're worried about your wife, but you're also worried about your kid. And so, and you're also getting ready for your kid to come into this world and gonna be part of your life, basically gonna be your life. And so you have to get everything ready and it's a lot to process.

Jonathan: 20:41

Oh yeah. I think this is one of the, one of the many things that. unfortunately women don't hear or their partners don't hear a lot of guys. I mean, I'm not sure about you, Dan. I'm sure you did, but I know there was several times where, um, if I couldn't go sleep at night, I'm just like laying there thinking I, I was just, I remember thinking like this, what kind of dad am I gonna be? Like, I, I wanna make sure I'm obviously there for the, you know, the trial, but. what I mean, is the kid gonna like me? Like you just get all these weird thoughts in your head. Um, am I gonna be able to live up? So, you know, being a good dad, mm-hmm, you know, all these different things. And ultimately in the back of my head, I knew I would define, but I mean, at the same time, you still cross these, these bridges in your head as a guy. Um, and then we don't really talk. It's not like, you know, we wake like, oh, you know what I was thinking about last night? Like, how am I gonna be as a dad? Like, I mean, some guys may do that, but I feel like a lot of guys, that's just something that they just kind of think about put in the back of their mind and move forward onto the next day.

Daniel: 21:43

Absolutely. Absolutely. So if you're doubting yourself or you're not sure of anything, it's normal to have these thoughts and oh yeah. Talk it over with your wife. Cause I'm sure she might be having similar thoughts and you guys. Share how you feel together, cuz that's important in a marriage communication. Number one,

Jonathan: 22:04

reassurance helps out a lot.

Daniel: 22:08

Okay. So number two, let me see. I'm trying. Okay. Hey, I heard it. Sorry. Uh, you are in this together, so mm-hmm again, you know, a lot of the attention goes to the woman. Right. Mm-hmm um, but it's important that, you know, you support one another, this pregnancy's about the, both of you, not just her. I mean, again, she's going through a lot, but again, so are you too, so I think it's important that to do things together during the P.

Jonathan: 22:44

Yeah. I, I mean, one thing that I could kind of phrase it as it's not just a hundred percent her it's like maybe like 70, 30 Cause I mean, like we said, you know, majority of her body's going through those changes her emotions, her, uh, you know, mentality. A lot of things are changing with her, um, physically and again, emotionally, but with the guy we're still involved in that, so you, we're not completely out of it. Um, and if you, I feel like a lot of guys, if we feel some sort of either resentment or some kind of like, Hey, what about me? It's easy for us to just to put that like, okay, well, you know, whatever, like you just backlog it and just kind of move on. Um, like Daniel. Talk to your, your spouse, talk to your partner and let them know how you're feeling. And they may do something special for you, or they may start including you more things. So that's always, you know, communication, like Daniel said is key. Yeah.

Daniel: 23:41

And again, and any marriage supporting one another, can't go wrong with that. Number three, be, uh, empathetic. You know, you want to show good empathy, especially for, with your wife. Who's gonna be dealing with born sickness, cramping, bloating. She's not gonna feel good. So you wanna be, you wanna show her a lot of empathy, right? So how you do that is you wanna, you wanna to fill and see what they're going through in their eyes. So for instance, If she's having morning sick is try to picture how that would be waking up, feeling sick and try to see it through what she's going through. You wanna basically see everything in through her and I'm sure she'll appreciate. You doing that, taking that little extra time. So not blowing her off, like, oh, that sucks. Just try to be more like, oh, that sucks. That you're feeling that way or that this happened to you. You want to show empathy to her

Jonathan: 24:49

and kind of something that just reminded me of, uh, how a useful, a useful tip. And that's not just during pregnancy, but how Daniel just said like, oh, that. I says guys, naturally, we want to fix things. So if she's feeling, you know, morning sixes or whatever, we may want to just try to figure out, okay, what would help prevent her from feeling morning sickness or something? And mm-hmm, it's not always something that they need fixing. Sometimes they just want to vent to you. And exactly like Daniel said, you just said, oh man, yeah, that does suck that you have to go through that. Like, Ugh. I'm sorry. You know,

Daniel: 25:25

that's suck. No that's yeah. That's yeah. Well said, you know, you Don. Women don't like it when die, try to solve their problems, but they do appreciate it when you listen to them. And so just try to remember that

Jonathan: 25:39

it is a hard habit to break. Trust me.

Daniel: 25:43

okay. So number four, get involved. And I remember last episode, I said, the best advice I can give you is just show up. And so this kind of goes into that. It's your child. It's not just her cuz she's carrying, you know, your child, it's your child. So you probably, you want to make an effort to go to baby, in me class, go make an effort to go pick out for the, when, when we were pregnant with our first daughter, we went to, uh, a, a first time parent class. It was on Monday nights. Had to give up Monday night football, you know, it sucked, but you know, do I regret it? Of course not. I'm happy. I went to those classes cuz it gave me the tools to be a good dad.

Jonathan: 26:37

You didn't have one on your phone? um, no, definitely 100%. I mean with, you know, our first son, um, we, uh, my wife and I, we went to some classes and um, and then I actually went to a dad's class, which was, it was. Dad's allowed. So, uh, you know, the, your partner wasn't allowed to go with you and it was super interesting to kind of experience that. Cuz you had guys all different types of guys that, um, were gonna be dad some for the first time. Some, it was their second, you know, child, but uh, honestly across the board, it was a little awkward at first just because. dads were just kind of like kind of keeping to themselves, like how, like how we mentioned, like, we don't really naturally just open up to each other. I feel like at the other classes, So there are women there, you know, like, oh, how far along are you? Or, you know, they ask questions. And, um, this one, I think maybe two of the dads were talking to each other, besides that though the ones we are just sitting in the chair, just waiting for the class to start. So yeah. Yeah. It it's.

Daniel: 27:42

Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah. And you know, women are smart. So if they see the effort we put in, they're gonna notice and it's gonna mean a lot to. That we took the initiative and we're making that, that step, to becoming, cuz they know where our mindset's at. It's about family. It's not just us. So they're gonna appreciate that. All right. Got one more worry about the emotional, not the physical stuff. Okay. So meaning a lot of dance and I'm guilty as one of'em. Like always worried about chasing diapers. How to burp the baby. I never burped the baby before in my life. And so now I know that responsibility was gonna come. Don't worry about that stuff. Worry about the emotional, try not to that. Baby's gonna cry a lot and you're gonna get stressed. You're gonna lose patience. Work on. Rather than the other stuff, the other stuff comes easy. Okay. You're gonna learn fast on, on those things. I just me, uh, mentioned just a minute ago, but focus on yourself. Learn to be patient, learn how to control your emotions and keep that anger down.

Jonathan: 29:06

Definitely. Definitely. I would say, um, breathing and exercises. It's not just for Lamaze, it? Uh, just taking a, you know, one or two, or even as many as you need deep breaths, definitely how calm the nerves and stressful situations where you can gather your thoughts and kind of react more, you know, and the logic aspects instead of just going off emotion of just your, you know, frustrated or anything like that.

Daniel: 29:32

Yeah, exactly, exactly. So that's the list I made. Was there anything else that you wanted to like add? Or did you have like a story you wanted?

Jonathan: 29:43

Uh, so I did wanna ask just like a couple questions, like, um, did you talk to your babies while they were in the womb?

Daniel: 29:52

I don't remember. So I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna say, yeah, I don't talking to the baby, but I did make it a, uh, I did make our daughter a soundtrack of like classical music. And Lala wise. And so, and it's interesting cuz her passion right now is music. So I'm sure that had something to do with it.

Jonathan: 30:15

Yeah. Nice, nice. I definitely did. I, I talked to the baby, uh, like if we were just laying down or watching TV or something, I would just straight to fabric little conversation with the, with the little one and uh, for any dads that are listening that are going to be first time, dad, um, I mean, the baby's gonna recognize your voice if you know, with you being around, uh, your, your partner. But, um, if you talk to your baby, a kid do not. When the babies first are born, even if the mom or the nurse, or whoever's holding the baby, if you talk and they hear your voice, they will turn their head to like, look to like, look towards you. And it's so cool. It's because they recognize your voice. Um, So, yeah. So I always encourage, uh, to talk to the baby, sing to the baby. Um, it's just a little connection that you kind of get with them. Absolutely.

Daniel: 31:11

Absolutely.

Jonathan: 31:12

Uh, oh, go ahead. What are you gonna start? Mm-hmm uh, I was gonna ask, do you remember the first time with each of your kids? You felt the kick?

Daniel: 31:25

Mmm, no, not the kick, but again, the heartbeat stands out to both of. Hearing the heartbeat for the first time seeing the, the ultrasound, those stand out to me. I don't really remember. I mean, I'm sure they did, you know, remember sharing a couple times, say fill this kick, but I don't remember specific

Jonathan: 31:45

incidents. No. When you fill that kick though, it's so cool. The first time. And then obviously as the pregnancy goes on it stronger. and then when they get close to the end, you can actually like make out whether it's like a hand or what it is. And that's, that's pretty cool and little creepy. the one thing

Daniel: 32:07

that surprised me was that Sherry asked me, she was like, when, when the baby's coming out, are you gonna look? And my first reaction was, no, I haven't thought about it. I probably will be right by your side. And sure enough, when the second they said, oh, we can see the head, no hesitation. I just reacted. And I had a good look to make sure she was coming out and they were taking good care of my baby. So, um, I'll always remember that. And I'm thankful that I got both times, uh, got to witness.

Jonathan: 32:49

nice. Nice. Yeah, they, they told me, uh, on the first, first two, uh, not to look cuz um, there was at C-sections and so, uh, they said a lot of dads pass out. They said, if you pass out, we're pretty much gonna let you be there and we're gonna know, just attend to your wife. And I was like, okay. And I'll never forget the first time. Uh, for our first son, I. Told myself not to look, but I just couldn't help myself. And I looked over the curtain and I even took pictures and saw, you know, them get'em out. And I was happy. I did. It was awesome. I didn't mind that one bit obviously depends on your stomach if you, you know, don't mind seeing, uh, blood and stuff like that, but it was, it was awesome. I definitely enjoyed it. And I saw with each one of my sons come out, um, it was, it was a great experience.

Daniel: 33:44

So my question to you, last one. Do you have any advice for guests with going through the whole pregnancy? Um,

Jonathan: 33:54

I would say as far as one piece of advice, you are going to, um, it's gonna go by fast. I know nine months seems like you have a lot of time, but it's gonna go by fast. I think just that one piece of advice that Daniel said, uh, just work on your patients and that will get you a long way, um, through the pregnancy, through, you know, even just raising the kids. Um, if you could work on your patients and have a lot of patience. It's gonna help you out. I think that probably help you out in life in general. yeah, but, um, absolutely.

Daniel: 34:33

Absolutely. Yeah. I would say that at work with friends. Yeah, absolutely. Um, buys is, uh, don't buy everything. You know, a lot of, a lot of parents tend to buy things that they don't need. And I think they do it out of co. So they say something on TV or on online, and they're like, oh, that's cool. We gotta have that because this is what that does. And sometimes they only use it once. Maybe not at all. I wish to stick to the minimum diapers, bed chasing table, of course, and then figure out what you might need after that. Cuz you're gonna get a lot of presents and you're gonna get a lot of stuff. But. S hold off on those big, big purchases. You might get it or you might not need it. And so, and that would help with saving money. So

Jonathan: 35:33

one thing to piggyback off from that is, um, on your, if you guys are doing a registry, don't hold back, put the crib, put the recliner, put whatever you guys want, cuz that list is not, you know, you telling them, this is what you're gonna buy from me. You're just showing everyone the things you guys want. If you know, three or four, people want to go in together to get you that crib, or if you know, someone wants to buy you that that's awesome. I, one of the things, cuz I used to work at, um, bed, bath and beyond, and we did wedding registries and uh, one of the sister companies of that is buy by baby, which is, um, kind of just pretty much like a baby's are us. That's where we did our. Babies are us. No bye. Bye baby. Oh, bye.

Daniel: 36:19

Bye baby. We got everything. Yeah. Bye bye baby.

Jonathan: 36:22

Yeah. So, um, and that's what a lot of people, even with wedding registry, like, oh, that's kind of expensive. I'll know if we should register for that. Just put it on there. I mean, they, they don't have to buy it worst case scenario. No one buys it and you're right where you are right now. So don't hesitate for that. And then, um, I had another piece of what you were just saying right now and I lost it. Cause I thought of that. Oh, I remember now. Um, so obviously baby or some people, they have baby showers, which is a great idea. You get a lot of gifts and all that stuff. Um, have a separate event. That's just kinda like a more casual, like a barbecue. And, um, you, we, uh, what was it, what did we call it? I think we just call it like a, um, I forgot the title of it. I know there's a title of it, but pretty much you just invite everyone over for a barbecue and you just say, you just bring, um, a pack of diaper. And or wipes and, um, you have family, friends come over, you hang out, you have a good time. And that alone is gonna stock you up for, you know, at least probably a few months, cuz you are gonna go through diapers like crazy and wipes, like crazy

Daniel: 37:32

diapers and wipes go a long way.

Jonathan: 37:34

Yeah, that's what we did with our kids. We had a diaper barbecue, or I'm not even sure what it was called, but, um, yeah, like I think for each one of our kids, uh, we didn't buy diapers for like the first, like three months or so. And then yeah, after that we're buy them like crazy.

Daniel: 37:52

All good advice. Good advice., alright. You ready? Dad? Draft.

Jonathan: 37:58

All right. So, I mean, do we wanna discuss about who won the last one? Yeah.

Daniel: 38:02

So the last one was movies with first time dads, Jonathan, you've got 30% of the votes. I got

Jonathan: 38:12

70%. I don't think we need to special you to say who won.

Daniel: 38:15

So I won. So I'm gonna, so the person that wins the previous week should pick what order they want to draft this week. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna take the first pick. Tonight's topic back to school supplies. And so I basically let's just keep this school supplies for elementary. Okay. Okay. All right. So now was trying to think, like, what did I want, like, what was important to me when I was in elementary school and. The first, my first pick backpacks has to be gotta be gotta have a, a strong backpack. You wanna start to school off your right, and it's gonna come off with confidence and I think gives you more confidence as a eight year old, then a good backpack back

Jonathan: 39:13

solid Batman backpack, spider man. Guess you're feeling.

Daniel: 39:20

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Jonathan: 39:23

Okay. So this one kind of go hand in hand with that one. It's a, I believe it's an obvious second, but uh, you gotta go lunch PA. Okay. Make sure you get the, you know, the right characters on there. Uh, some that come with the thermal definitely handy, but, uh, yeah, I remember, you know, if you had your lunch packed as in, you know, lunch pill that you, you were happy. Made a good day. I

Daniel: 39:50

thought about that, but I had a little down on my list because nowadays kids are not bringing their lunch to school. So I kind of dropped it in my rankings. Fair enough. Okay. All right. You got the next pick.

Jonathan: 40:06

Okay. That's right doubled up. Um, this one kind of came to me just because we got it from my son. Um, the pencil pouch. you get, there's some pretty cool ones out there that are pretty clever that, uh, they're handy. You keep, you know, color pencils, crayons, uh, all that stuff in there, but some of the good, uh, clever ones of the pencil pouch are, are pretty nice. Okay.

Daniel: 40:34

So this one I wanted every year growing up and there's a couple years I got it. There were some years I. and when I got this, it made me like, this is the year I'm gonna be organized. This is the year I'm gonna get my stuff together and get good grades, which didn't really happen. Never happened, but, but did give me hope and Trapp keeper. Okay. Love trapper keeper popular. Those was the ones where the folders at the end and had dividers and plastic dividers in the middle. And it was help kids keep organized for different subjects. So

Jonathan: 41:27

that was a

Daniel: 41:27

plan, loved them. And number three, for me, uh, I felt this is a safe pick. I've been here before, where I went to school and I didn't have a pencil and didn't wanna be that kid, not having a pencil. And now I'm asking the kids that sit next to me, then I have to go the teacher it's embarrassing. So I'm going with pencil. Oh, sorry. Pencil. Number two. Pencil. If the Al pencil.

Jonathan: 42:07

Of every school. I feel like that's a weak pick cuz pretty much almost any teacher's gonna give you that if you don't have it.

Daniel: 42:15

Well, yeah, but you still have to like, oh, I forgot my pencil or I don't have a pencil. Just gonna look at what's what's going on.

Jonathan: 42:25

I, I, I wrote so much. I used it all. I need a new one. there you go. Um, alright. So for my last pick in elementary, I remember if you had, you know, crayons, if you had the standard eight pack, that was awesome. If you had that 16 pack, you were, you were pretty cool. You had a lot of options of color. Your rainbow was better. Your pictures were more, you know, brighter and more vivid. So I wanna go with the solid 16 pack of crayons. Okay.

Daniel: 43:00

Had that on my list, had that on my

Jonathan: 43:02

list. I feel like that's, that's. You definitely feel like you have an ACE up to sleep when you have more crayons.

Daniel: 43:10

All right. You got

Jonathan: 43:11

one more pick last pick. Um, the last thing I remember, you know, trying to get when, uh, the ones I was excited for kind of like the Trapp keep, but just the standard folder ones, actually. No, let's strike that. Let's strike that. Oh, I know. I'm gonna go, uh, the. What is it called? Uh, the name skipping me, but the pencils, but that you click, uh, the ones

Daniel: 43:44

that you really wanna pick, something that you can't remember the

Jonathan: 43:46

name of. Yeah. Because I'm not ashamed of it. I'm horrible with the names. I not lead pencil. Uh, I think they are lead pencil. I don't know. No, no. All pencils are out or lead.

Daniel: 43:59

See, uh, Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. I mean, I do know what you're talking about. I don't know what the name of it. Oh, I was like,

Jonathan: 44:06

really? Don't yeah. I would pick up the name for it. Okay. I don't know that in a pencil then, which you took. So, um, the last one that I would just go with, uh, just the regular folder. If you have a solid, you know, oh, it's

Daniel: 44:22

a panic pick. You panicked your time was coming down.

Jonathan: 44:28

Come on. You're telling me with your folders. You, you were excited if you had like a mid turtle folder. Okay. Yeah,

Daniel: 44:36

that was, okay, well, this is a tough one. Cause I have two, I won, I, I can't decide, but either one of is better than your left. I think, I think by picking what I'm about to pick. Push me over and I'm gonna win the second week in a row. And I'm gonna go with hand sanitizer. I'm gonna go with hand sanitizer right now. Okay.

Jonathan: 45:02

That's a parent pick. That's not a kid. That's well, what, kid's excited to school shopping

Daniel: 45:07

it's school. I work buying that supplies for our kids.

Jonathan: 45:11

I was in the impression the kids is supposed to be excited to have it.

Daniel: 45:15

I had that hand sanitizer. Okay. all right. Was there anything else that you wanted to pick, but you didn't?

Jonathan: 45:26

No, not really. That was pretty much about it. Yeah. My last pick was,

Daniel: 45:29

yeah, snacks. It's important to have good snacks. So when your kids come home, they get a good snack and then they can do their homeworks. You don't have good snacks. That's not school supplies. That's gonna be it's part of, yeah, it's part of, it's a red flag. It's still a red flag school routine. Any good. Any parents can have good snacks waiting for their kids when they come back home from school. It's just fact, it's just fact John.

Jonathan: 45:57

I mean, it's a fact. Yeah. You have fact good snacks. When can you also have dinner? You put dinner on there. Dinner's

Daniel: 46:03

a long time. Not time, right? You eating dinner at 3:00 PM?

Jonathan: 46:08

No, but I gotta eat dinner in order to go to sleep in order to go to school. There you go. You probably with school, it just doesn't work. Yeah.

Daniel: 46:15

All right. So. Backpack tracker keeper, number two, pencils and hand sanitizer, John lunch, PA pencil, pouch crayons, and a folder.

Jonathan: 46:31

Dig of crayons. So

Daniel: 46:34

should be interesting. So go ahead and, uh, I'm gonna put the poll up again on Instagram, uh, cast your vote and let us know who you think won this. Week's dad. Uh, for our Instagram, in case you forgot is four, two dads sakes. It's also that on Twitter and you can also find us on YouTube, uh, forward two dads, sakes, podcasts, Jonathan, anything you else you wanna add before we wrap it up?

Jonathan: 47:08

No, no, I think we, I think we hit all the key points on. Um, yeah, you want to give him a little taste of what next episode's gonna be about,

Daniel: 47:16

uh, that one. I'm so deciding. So we'll, we'll let you know on our Instagram

Jonathan: 47:22

that's when you say it's a surprise. So,

Daniel: 47:25

so it's a surprise. There you go. There you go. We're learning our, alright, so thanks for listening. And we'll see you next week. John.

Jonathan: 47:39

Stay.

Daniel: 47:40

All right, guys. Bye. And don't go changing.