The Conscious Salon

"I'm being tested for ADHD."

November 13, 2023 Nicola and Tessa Season 1 Episode 65
"I'm being tested for ADHD."
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The Conscious Salon
"I'm being tested for ADHD."
Nov 13, 2023 Season 1 Episode 65
Nicola and Tessa

Ever wondered why despite all your efforts, something always seems to be amiss? A sense of being present yet detached? Nikki's seven-day challenge may hold the answers. Join us as we probe Nikki's journey on three distinct fronts - money, relationships, and health - and how the concept of 'diamond presence' transformed her approach to life. She brings an honest reflection of her experiences, sharing how eliminating podcasts and social media for a week invited more presence in her life, making her more tuned in to her needs and less susceptible to distractions.

As we delve further, Tess opens up about her potential ADHD diagnosis. This personal revelation leads us to a deeper conversation about the pitfalls of unconscious living and how conditions like ADHD could contribute to it. We stress the importance of mindfulness in the way we spend our time and energy, and how recognizing and altering our routines can bring about positive shifts in our lives. We also touch upon the role of distractions in our lives and how growing up in an environment filled with constant stimuli has shaped current habits.

As we round off our conversation, we underline the power of positive language and an open mindset. It's fascinating to observe the role these elements play in attracting what we desire. We believe in the potency of self-reflection and self-awareness in acknowledging and rectifying our behavior. And that is precisely what we've aimed to explore in this episode. So tune in for a profound conversation on presence, self-awareness, and conscious living. It will certainly leave you with valuable insights and food for thought.

To follow our journey:
Instagram @aheadhair_
@the_conscious_salon

This podcast has been produced and edited by Snappystreet Creative

Show Notes Transcript Chapter Markers

Ever wondered why despite all your efforts, something always seems to be amiss? A sense of being present yet detached? Nikki's seven-day challenge may hold the answers. Join us as we probe Nikki's journey on three distinct fronts - money, relationships, and health - and how the concept of 'diamond presence' transformed her approach to life. She brings an honest reflection of her experiences, sharing how eliminating podcasts and social media for a week invited more presence in her life, making her more tuned in to her needs and less susceptible to distractions.

As we delve further, Tess opens up about her potential ADHD diagnosis. This personal revelation leads us to a deeper conversation about the pitfalls of unconscious living and how conditions like ADHD could contribute to it. We stress the importance of mindfulness in the way we spend our time and energy, and how recognizing and altering our routines can bring about positive shifts in our lives. We also touch upon the role of distractions in our lives and how growing up in an environment filled with constant stimuli has shaped current habits.

As we round off our conversation, we underline the power of positive language and an open mindset. It's fascinating to observe the role these elements play in attracting what we desire. We believe in the potency of self-reflection and self-awareness in acknowledging and rectifying our behavior. And that is precisely what we've aimed to explore in this episode. So tune in for a profound conversation on presence, self-awareness, and conscious living. It will certainly leave you with valuable insights and food for thought.

To follow our journey:
Instagram @aheadhair_
@the_conscious_salon

This podcast has been produced and edited by Snappystreet Creative

Speaker 1:

Here at the Conscious Salon, we acknowledge the traditional owners of the land in which we stand today, the Boon Rung people of the Kula Nation. We pay our respects to the elders, past and present, and extend their respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to the Conscious Salon.

Speaker 1:

Welcome back to the Conscious Salon podcast. I just didn't kick Tess up the arse because she's got to leave.

Speaker 2:

In what half an hour?

Speaker 1:

Nikki said pretty sick, go Okay okay.

Speaker 2:

Pretty sick go. But I mean the time wasting. We don't do time wasting around here.

Speaker 1:

Apparently not. I was just having a nice chat, but I guess Nikki was not interested in chatting today.

Speaker 2:

Well, actually because we're doing a podcast, but we are back with another episode of the Conscious Salon podcast.

Speaker 1:

Nikki is committing to the Birkenstocks and Thons Tess is talking about the greens Socks. Birkenstocks and socks Bright green and black. Bright green.

Speaker 2:

Birkenstocks, which I mean. They're a choice.

Speaker 1:

They're a choice.

Speaker 2:

But that with socks. Nothing wrong with that and no time to be wasted today. So we're getting straight into our first little catch up. We do the weekly wrap.

Speaker 1:

Yep, last week been. Yeah, good, good, I've just lost my place. Where are we? She's throwing me with a one, two three.

Speaker 2:

I'm too afraid to really set go.

Speaker 1:

It's actually really set go, but yeah, hey give me up, because, oh no, do you know that? That's the thing, though. If you go, if you want to go and do something, you know how sometimes, like in your brain, you can't do it. You have to count down rather than count up. Cause if you go one, two, three, well, that worked as a child, but it hasn't worked in my adulthood, whereas if you do three, two one yes, the Mel Robbins five second rule you're talking about.

Speaker 2:

That's where I've learned it. Yes, Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, mel. Very good, thank you, mel. It's coming very handy for us, especially today. I couldn't remember where I'd pick that up anyway.

Speaker 2:

So is that your answer for how's the week been for weekly? I don't think what it was.

Speaker 1:

Um, you start Well, I'll follow from you.

Speaker 2:

Well, I was just saying to Tess, I have just finished a seven day challenge, which has been really interesting, so I thought you're going to mention the fact that I told you that I was watching real housewives of Sydney. I mean, I just was like it's clear who's showing up for their personal development this year.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you got to have some white noise. I can't just be success, success, success Got to have a little bit of downtime. I have also decided watching below deck, down under. I actually cannot with you.

Speaker 2:

Do you want to hear about my seven day challenge?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's hear about you like improving yourself. I'll get to you improving yourself.

Speaker 2:

Um, but yes, I have just finished a seven day challenge. So I jumped into a? Um a seven day container with a person called Tiana Rose. She's a lady from the Gold Coast. Um, really, really interesting. The challenge um basically it involved like three different pillars money, or money in business, relationships, and health and every day they would add little um extra things, um like little challenges that we had to do. It was really really interesting. So we had a step challenge. We had um a health challenge like drink this, like salty water, which I really struggled with. Um you had to get 20 minutes of sunlight every single morning. Like, first thing, no mobile phones. Um, until after you had done all of those things and it was. It was really really interesting. And then they kept adding little extra challenges. I'm aware that I don't want to give it away because obviously yeah, no, probably pretty busy, it was like a paid container he's just like.

Speaker 2:

So on day one we did Exactly, but so she kept adding little different challenges um throughout the seven days, and it was I reckon if you played a card right so you could probably get the whole container out of Nikki In his episode. Um, it was really interesting and one of the biggest things that I took away from it because she talked a lot about, um, you know, being having diamond presence is what she refers to as like diamond presence and being super in the moment, and basically.

Speaker 1:

Not the secrets out.

Speaker 2:

We've got the name. We, um, we create like so many different barriers and distractions for ourselves so that we don't actually get things done, and this is the thing I feel with society at the moment. This is one of the major reasons why I had to remove myself from social media on a personal level was because I was wasting so much time, um, like choosing to distract myself every single day and I really never felt like I could be truly present in anything that I did, Whereas her philosophy is you know, if you're truly present and you're like a hundred percent in the moment, you'll get things done in like a quarter of the amount of time. Really simple thought, but it was really groundbreaking for me. Um, and then there was some really uncomfortable things. Like you know, we weren't allowed to consume any other media for like any other form of podcast or anything for the whole seven days. Did?

Speaker 1:

you say I'm doing a podcast.

Speaker 2:

I don't have to. No, well, I didn't listen to our podcast until yesterday, so seven days and I didn't listen to any of my other podcasts, because I'm a big podcast listener, so I didn't. And when I think about, like the actually being really, really present in my life, I use podcasts when I'm driving, I use podcasts when I'm walking and I use podcasts when I'm cooking, so all of these things that could be really present practices for me, but instead I'm filling it up with two things.

Speaker 1:

Oh, don't worry, Do you want me to make you feel better? I feel it. Do you know what I'm doing? In those times I was like oh, what do I do in those moments when I'm in the car, I'm talking to you or like my best mate? We will send like a video not video sounds like I'm recording like the Marco app, marco Polo, it's a big app that we use.

Speaker 1:

So you're walking talking, or mum sometimes she's lucky enough or if I'm cooking, I'm watching reality TV. If I'm working out, I'm watching reality TV. I spend so much of my time watching reality TV, but I'm not really watching it. I'm listening to reality TV. Well, this is the interesting thing.

Speaker 2:

So basically, her philosophy was, if we stopped trying to multitask all of the time and we had diamond presence and extreme presence with whatever we're doing, we will feel less overwhelmed, less tired, less over consumed, less I had to have enough hours in the day, less I'm exhausted, and I did this for seven days and it truly worked.

Speaker 2:

So for you, tess, as a person who has said this a lot recently I'm exhausted, I've got too much on my plate, blah, blah, blah. This could be really huge. So for me, my thing is like oh, I'm running out of hours, I'm running out of hours, I'm running out of hours, but what I realized was I'm trying to be, I'm doing too many things at once and I'm not giving like 100% focus, so I feel like I'm over consuming and my brain's like exhausted by the end of the day. It was a really simple thought and it completely rocked my world and I was able to see so many things that I should be and could be doing differently. Really groundbreaking for me in my life and for me to actually make some changes and be able to live a more present, more conscious life and also like less overwhelming for my brain. That's really nice. It was beautiful Really amazing.

Speaker 1:

Nikki said a massive week of evolution and I've taken mine into what's the other word, like the gutter Reclusion. I was like, oh good, nikki's really enlightened and evolved. And I'm like watching Melmour's politic down under Rich people spending. Do you know how much they're spending on these super yachts? So it's like $80,000 a day, a day. A day, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2:

I reckon I've gotten that wrong. Wow, 80 grand a day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so anyway, that's been good.

Speaker 2:

What is that in tail? What is the 80k in tail? Is it like meals team?

Speaker 1:

I think. What am I? I'm just trying to think because I'm obviously not consciously watching it, or just to charter the boat. Yeah to charter the boat you get like the captain's a hunk. He's like some Aussie little. Oh my God, it's not little little, he's actually very big and broad. He looks like he should be in a movie like Thor or something Like very everyone's, like you know, obsessed with him, forgotten his name.

Speaker 1:

Actually, I can't tell you any of the cast's name. It's not. I'm just like oh, the brains are safe. I cannot give you one fact about this show, Apart from the fact that it is being shot on Ailey Beach, which is where my sister-in-law lives. And I keep saying to Mick, when he's definitely not watching, but sitting near me as I'm watching it, like oh look, we've been there, oh, it's the reef where we've been, and like I get really excited by that and he's not interested at all. It's probably a shit show and some of you may go on and listen to this and some of you, I mean, watch it and some of you may not.

Speaker 2:

You have completely proved my seven day challenge in a 60 second rap.

Speaker 1:

You've just proved it, absolutely, I'm genuinely taking out what you've said and been like oh I wonder if I'll like cooking. If I actually do it, I feel like I put on the distraction so that I don't recognize because I don't like to cook. I wish I did. I wish I was one of those people like you, and dad and Mick and actually pretty much everyone around me except for myself, felt with cooking Because for me it's such a chore and it's such a thing that I don't like doing. Therefore, I very rarely do it, and when I do do it, I have to put something on so I get distracted by it. But am I doing that because I actually want to be distracted or am I? It's yeah, I'm like already.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, do you actually want to?

Speaker 1:

be president at that moment. I think it's actually a really good subject that you've brought up because, honestly, I'm yeah, I think that's my week. I think I've gotten into a couple of new shows, and obviously not very well, because I couldn't tell you a cast member from the other one that. I'm watching what's that called A Real House as a Sydney. Yeah, it's super unconscious living at the moment, so I'm going to get shit load out of this episode.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the unconscious, so on. Oh, I'm amazing with that, thank God. But everything else? I feel like my brains are sieve. I am actually in the process of being assessed for ADHD. None of you probably find that a shock.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure everyone's like oh God, we can hear you nodding.

Speaker 1:

And I you know what I'm going to sit and actually be a bit uncomfortable in this. I've actually found it really full on process, as I'm sure many people who have gone through this process have found. It's really overwhelming, and I even the fact that when you asked me what was happening in the week, I couldn't remember anything. I thought, yeah, I'm so thankful that my first official meeting is happening on Tuesday this week coming, because I'm actually recognizing so much of my brain is just not able to keep up with my life at the moment or is it the other way around? But yeah, it's actually becoming a bit of a struggle to be able to function in the way that I want to.

Speaker 1:

So, I'm really looking forward to this process and hopefully having my world rocked a bit, because as much as we're laughing and making fun, I'm actually sitting here and being like, oh, I actually recognize how unconscious I am and I'm just sort of in a whether it is in a um, in the hamster wheel of just kind of keep going in Like I've just gotten a certain amount of like I, I'm a big one for checklist. I kind of have checklists every day with what I want to achieve and what I want to get done, and I, I live my life to that.

Speaker 2:

And I'm actually realized You're very driven by a tick.

Speaker 1:

I am very driven by tick, and what I'm realizing with even with what you're saying, is I'm like, oh yeah, I get my phone first thing in the morning and I distract myself all the time and I'm wondering if that's because I'm wanting to distract myself or if that's just the level that my brain is used to functioning at with so much like chaos that it's really hard for me to actually have what's a really yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like when, when we did this part of the course as well, I was like, oh, I live a pretty conscious life Yep, I've off social media. I really thought and, look, I probably live a more conscious life than the average person and that's fantastic. So I worked really hard on. But there was so many moments that I was like, oh, you know sunlight, 20 minutes of sunlight in the morning Like I was like bloody hell, I don't even know when I've done that. So there was some really big moments of and especially with that diamond presencing, and I was like, holy shit, I'm having so many moments.

Speaker 2:

Even the things that I do to quote unquote make me feel present, like cooking. Cooking is a really present thing that I do and I really I love to cook and if I feel stressed, I'll like get in the kitchen and cook something because it makes me feel really present. But even that present practice I was doing two things in there, not one, so not actually being truly 100% present. It was really really interesting and I had so many big aha moments of like, okay, the life that I want to be living and the space that I still have to level up, there's still so much room for me to grow and I had the same feeling that you're having right now. I'm like, oh shit, I get like I mean I don't reach for my phone in the morning like I used to a few years ago, but I'm like, oh when, when have I ever started my day being outside? I'll do a few things, then I'll go out onto the deck and have a coffee and write in my journal or whatever, but when do I start my day? Get out of bed, walk straight outside and sit outside for 20 minutes no music, no podcast, no talking, just sitting and being quiet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, it was a really big realization and I think probably everyone listening to this will probably be sitting there having their own moment of realization of how this plays out in their lives. Yeah, and how we want to show up Like I'm hyper aware when my son is around, and if Pete's on his phone and I'm on my phone, I'm like I don't want my son to think that this is normal, even though it is, you know, kind of normal for society now to just be sitting staring at your phone. But this is not the way that we want to raise our son and I will have to call us all out. Okay cool, let's put our phones down and be together. Yeah, but you know I'm then not happy to extend the same courtesy to myself when it's just me in that moment of doing the cooking. You know, it's really interesting to think about where we fill our lives with, where we fill our lives with distractions and where we're not willing to be present. Yeah, it's really an interesting thought Totally.

Speaker 1:

Totally, you're absolutely right on that Like there is so much unconscious living and, as I said, even me hearing this now, I'm sort of like oh, I guess even that thought like is this a busy brain? At the moment it's probably a little bit too busy and I'm wanting to you know, I'm reaching out to get help to correct that. Is this distractions, is this unconscious living? Is this? I'm not too sure, but I think that's really interesting. You've had such a transformative week and like I feel myself now being like, oh, I feel completely opposite. I'm sure many people would feel like that too, so it's kind of cool having that awareness.

Speaker 2:

Totally and look, I think it goes hand in hand, like, obviously you're in the midst of getting you know potentially an ADHD diagnosis, and even if you do get that diagnosis and you get medicated or get support or whatever that looks like for you, I think this is, first of all, really important, that we talk about this and get counted on this, so, but second to that, I think it's really important to also understand that, even if you did get you know I can speak freely on this because my partner has ADHD and he's medicated for- it and it's been a really-.

Speaker 1:

He's also one of the first people, like years ago, who put the suggestion to me that this could be something that I had, and I remember looking at him being like no, that's not me. So yeah, sorry, I'm going to judge you with that. I just wanted to highlight the fact that he might have found it.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, he was onto it pretty early on.

Speaker 2:

But I think this is what's really interesting here, because even if you do go down the path of getting medicated and getting support or whatever- that looks like to you and if you do get the diagnosis, even if you continue you know the you know in air bunnies, unconscious living or you know these things that we do in our day to day lives to distract ourselves, even if you do have that support and that medication or whatever the plan looks like for you, if we continue to have this unconscious living, you'll still be running like the same. You'll be running the same hams to will you'll still have the same things going around.

Speaker 2:

So it really does start and stop with us and the decision making that we make and being so aware of it. Yeah, so I think it's a really interesting point of you know being aware of it, because no matter like what thing we can, I guess, turn to for support, like support wise, we can turn to a heap of different things, but if we are, awareness is like the key to everything and if we're aware of it, then we can actually put some tangible things into change. But I think just having this conversation, for a lot of people are probably, is probably going to be like whoa, whoa, where in my life am I doing this and taking myself away and allowing myself and almost like craving, being distracted.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think I've always like been in the mentality like silence is deafening, you know so I've always busy that with sound, whether it's music, tv, stimulant, whatever. It's interesting for sure.

Speaker 2:

Well, we also grew up in a house that was like very heavily into the mute, like when dad was cooking. It was always like music and if I think of our childhood, it was very much based around like the senses. It was like there was always, you know, candles burning and things burning, or there was cooking happening and then there was music playing, like it was very vacuum cleaners on, exactly.

Speaker 2:

I'm curiously cleaning somewhere but yeah, like I think that we've sort of we've grown up thinking that that is just what happens, totally. And I remember when I met Pete, like I went to his house and I was like, well, it's really weird that your parents don't play music Like while you're having dinner like we always had music going like for vibe and ambience but ambience, ambience, ambiance. Is it ambience? Yeah, are you taking the piss?

Speaker 1:

No, ambience, oh my God, what a twerp, I'm going to be able to say castle.

Speaker 2:

What it's like when people say castle and I'm like castle.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do you know what I've started saying? That like is your son through and through. I now say toilet instead of toilet.

Speaker 2:

Toilet yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because it sounds like he says it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he does, he's like toilet.

Speaker 1:

Like got a real twang, yeah. But yeah, I heard that the other day I was like I said to a new client let me show you where the toilet is.

Speaker 2:

Great, great Toilet. Where is the toilet? But yeah, I think it's really interesting conversation. I appreciate you being open and vulnerable with that. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Super sorry. I did go super quiet then because I was like, really, you know, vulnerable and uncomfortable and like I don't know why. It's actually like fucked up thing, because it's, it is what it is Like, it's not a I'm going to speak slightly candidly on my very infant slash, no experience into this world, but it's such a process. To begin this process Well the system is fucking broken.

Speaker 1:

It's. It's so hard and especially when I'm generally speaking, you know people that are in this situation can get overwhelmed really easily and like be like it's so hard. It was hard enough to like go to the doctors. I actually you would have loved to have been in there. You can imagine exactly how I went in. I told you straight away when we came out of it I was so nervous to go to see my doctor. My doctor is incredible and like such an incredible. I love her. I think she's great, and I decided, just as she was bringing me into the room, that I was just going to talk about the asthma preventive that she'd put me on and how good that was. And so I spent 10 minutes of just talking about the difference that it made and how much I was enjoying it, and she was like, well, as much as I appreciate all the feedback I'm assuming you haven't just come in here to talk about the preventive I was like no, then went in, but I think with that, even with that process and not that this is going to be an episode on this, because it's not, it's going to be.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what the episode is going to be on, but not this, but I do think it is such a I was so scared to tell her because there's still so much shame in like. She said to me do you feel like you need to convince me that you have this Like? You're almost like you're gaslighting yourself? And I was like yes, because I don't typically present as like. I think when people visualize, or what they would visualize, adhd to look like is like you know, kids that are, you know, like virtually like you know, swinging off the monkey bars upside down and just like. This is a big misconception, exactly, yeah.

Speaker 2:

This is the big misconception. So you can have so many different. Like you know, I had a deep dive into my research with ADHD because when, when I went through this with Pete, I was like I want to show up as the best possible support that I can for him. And because I'm not this way, I need to understand exactly what every single tiny element of his brain is doing so that I can be compassionate and and understand him better.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes I regret doing that because I'm like I'm not as hard on him as with things like the fucking cactus farm that is started, but anyway the kind of farm that you currently reside at.

Speaker 1:

It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2:

But it's a massive misconception with people with ADHD that they're just like off, like chasing butterflies and then a bird. Oh my God, there's this, there's that, and that's not the way it is at all. It can look like hyper focused, so extreme, you know, almost like, if not a fetish, because it's a sound sexual, but like extreme obsession. I can see Pete out the window.

Speaker 1:

He's just popping in the spa. He's popping in the spa.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I mean to live like Peter Young would be.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, we'd all love to marry Nikki and have the life of the elites, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

But he yeah, like extreme focus on one thing. So it could look like hyperactivity, it could look like avoidance, it can look like executive dysfunction, which is why the system is so flawed, Because the way that you have to get even assessed for ADHD requires you know appointments, phone calls consultations and you're asking someone who has executive dysfunction, so basically an issue being able to do things like make appointments to asking them to make five appointments. Yeah, you know, it's just, it's complicated.

Speaker 1:

I think that's such a good point Cause, again, like as we've established, I'm still on mom's Medicare, pete's still on his mom's Medicare. It's all of these, that is actually a syndrome ADHD. That's a question you get asked. Are you still on a parent's Medicare?

Speaker 2:

card. Oh, you are yeah.

Speaker 1:

But it is. It's so flawed and the process is as Nikki's saying, because it's not just that you then you've got to make the appointment for the specialist to then go and get assessed and then you have to do the pre-assessment stuff. And I'm not going to go with like. This is not going to be, as I said, not absolutely Like it's going to be a lot more practical than just you know how to find out whether or not you have ADHD, but it is. It's enormous. And there's, you know, the pre-assessments is, multiple forms. It's also getting other people to fill out forms on you and then you're going for appointments.

Speaker 1:

And it's not, you know, it wasn't as though I could call up and be like, oh, you know, here's the days and times that work best for me. It was I just got a text message of what I was saying, the two appointments that I need, and it was just this time and this date at this place Make it work. And I said to me, oh, straight away, me looking at the date going oh, it's a Tuesday, I can't do that. It's cup day. I'm like, oh, it's fine. But even then I said, oh, imagine if it was when I'm in Queens. I'm going to Queens a couple of times in the next few months. What if it happens then Me cause like. Well then you, you make it work. You either move your flight Like this is specialist. You don't get to like, give the luxury of like, when can I it's you take this? Or you go to the. You know the start again.

Speaker 1:

So, it is. There's a lot of a process with it. But anyway, where we're on the, on the journey, we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate you sharing this mate, because there's a lot of people uncomfortable with this and this is what we need. We need to talk about this because every time we talk about mental health, every single time we talk about mental health, we're normalizing it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Even if you feel uncomfortable. There are people listening to this who have ADHD, who were like, thank you, I didn't realize that everyone, like, goes through this experience or finds this complicated, or finds this daunting. There are people who are listening to this, who are resonating with the same tendencies that you're saying, that you have every day, who may go and get assessed and may be able to find support for themselves. So this conversation, although you feel uncomfortable, yeah, it's making a difference to so many people.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate that. I feel like it's look, I'm, I'm. I'm not quite there yet to like fully like. Maybe one day we'll do an episode on it. I don't know, we'll see how we go, but I'm, I'm just not quite there yet. I think it's still pretty. You know, new and uncharted yeah.

Speaker 2:

But it's great that you're sharing it in the moment. A lot of people share these things after the fact, when it's set on for them. It's quite rare for people to share things that they're actually moving through at the present time. Yeah, and you can hear people talking through. You know what they've, what they've moved through, like what they've been through and challenges that they've faced. They're moving like beyond it, so it's something that's previously happened to them You're talking about at the time, which is amazing.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, man, I appreciate it and thanks for being really good about that. Yeah, yeah, well, let's stay tuned. We'll just we'll pin it for now, but we'll stay tuned, let's see what next week has to bring?

Speaker 2:

Totally, but, tess, every week around here we do a little segment. What's it called Hockey Hotline? So, if anyone new around here, we do a segment called Hockey Hotline, which is a we put every week on Instagram. We put a question box up and we ask you for your troubles, your issues that you're having in your business, your woes, till it's just secrets. Yeah, so, tess, this week, what question do you have for us?

Speaker 1:

We have navigating growing pains in business, releasing old patterns and stepping into the next level.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's always hard when it's a question with no question.

Speaker 1:

So a statement for us to comment on yeah, pushing through growing pains, navigating growing pains in business, releasing all patterns and stepping into the next level. I guess this person wants our perspective on it. Let's do a practical tip, our best advice for it, and then we'll do like one together.

Speaker 2:

Okay, Don't you think? Yes, I definitely think so. My best advice on this is I feel that even this person wanting to do this is like step one. But the biggest thing that I've learned in my seven or eight years of personal development is, if I am open to growth and change and I understand that me myself is like a fluid being and I'm going to constantly change and hopefully always growing to be a better person I need to always go into personal development with an open mind. So some of the biggest shifts that I've ever had in my life have been from people that have triggered the fuck out of me. So I think being open to learning from other people and other people's perspectives and being open to changing your perspective is the most important thing. With releasing all patterns, stepping into your next level self, all of the things is just being really open minded. That's the best advice I could give.

Speaker 1:

What about you? That's great. I think we spoke about this earlier with one of our one-on-one clients today. When you do start stepping into a new frequency or leveling up or into a new vibration whatever word that resonates with you, sometimes the old patterns really stick there, and especially Nicky and I are really big on the old language, so it can still come from a bit more of a. When we start stepping into more of an abundant life or more of a potent life or a powerful life whatever word resonates again, find your word.

Speaker 1:

We can sometimes feel like we're not meant to be there, and so the lack mindset or the lack speak or the negative talk or self talk can really, like still run rampant. So for me, whenever I go into a next level up, I am so conscious of how I'm speaking and the language that I'm using and how I'm like making sure that I have a really strong positive mindset. That's in there. That's really gonna elevate my lifestyle, whatever it is I'm trying to achieve with that. So if I'm going into the next level but I'm keeping that lack mindset, I'm not gonna level up in the way that I want to, whereas if I'm leveling up, I have to level up everything that includes, like the way that having that open mind, as Nicky's talking about, and really speaking with intention and being conscious of what I'm saying. So when I'm showing up, I'm showing up in gratitude. All the time, I'm showing up with abundance, believing that I am a whatever it is I'm trying to attract in. So say, if I'm trying to attract in you know, a higher turnover, for example, morning, like our salon turnover to be bigger, I'm just gonna use this as an example.

Speaker 1:

Every time that a client books in, we will show immense gratitude for that client.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much, jessica, for booking in for your full head of you know foils, toner and hack up for today.

Speaker 1:

I'm so grateful that you are choosing to trust us with your experience and we are gonna really level up and show you that experience.

Speaker 1:

I am going to be grateful for every opportunity that comes with that, every appointment that comes through, every person that comes like doesn't online store purchase, every person that in any way is bringing money towards the salon. I'm gonna show immense gratitude and I'm going to really be focused on how positive that is, not how many didn't show up or not, how many gaps that I still have in the book or whatever it is we can sit in. That lack mindset that's gonna keep me stuck at that lower level, the higher level. I'm gonna be really so grateful for everything that's showing and I'm gonna keep trusting that that's gonna keep coming in. I'm gonna be keep trusting that more of those clients are gonna come through, more people are gonna go on that online store, more people are gonna be showing up and wanting to be a part of what we're trying to, you know, put out there. And I think that's a really important thing of having that really positive, positive self-talk, positive language and really like elevated and abundant language.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely Well. I mean, I guess you know the universe is gonna match your vibration that you're putting out there. Yeah, like I truly believe that Totally. I never think that when people would say that, but I truly believe that now.

Speaker 1:

Agreed.

Speaker 2:

One together.

Speaker 1:

Let's think of one. That would be a really good one.

Speaker 2:

Also, I think it's really important and you and I have done a lot of this. I think I can answer this definitely from personal experience of what we've done is identifying and being really, really good at being self-aware and self-analytical, like being able to analyze yourself.

Speaker 1:

Call out your own shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and look, I don't necessarily, you know, call myself out in a harsh way, but I get curious, and this is one thing that.

Speaker 2:

Georgie, my mentor this year, has really taught me. She talks about curiosity. So, okay, I'm curious why I'm showing up this way. What am I doing there? It's almost like catching yourself out, but in a compassionate way, so that there's no shame with no shame, just being curious around some of the behaviors that we do. So that I think you and I have become so good at being self-analytical and self-awareness, so that plays a major part in it, cause you've got to be able to say, actually I'm triggered as fuck by this person that I'm listening to right now. Why?

Speaker 1:

What's coming up for me Totally, or when we have moments in, or when we have reflecting in myself yeah, exactly. Or when we have moments of ego and we have to, you know, call each other out and say hang on, is that actually going on or are we actually in ego at the moment? And I think yeah, definitely being self-reflective and critical, critical thinking. Critical self, yeah, Without being critical in a negative way of thinking that you should.

Speaker 2:

Totally. I mean, this is a fucking balance, isn't it? It's like our whole lives we're just trying to be all the things, but I know I think going in with an open mind is really, really important. That's the biggest thing Like open mind, being self-aware, Super, super important. That was a great question and I think it's really interesting because it's come up a lot for our clients this week as well, so it has played out really really nicely, Just the way it was meant to Look at that. Tess, we're in every episode in gratitude. I would love to know what are you grateful for in this moment?

Speaker 1:

I'm really grateful that you definitely brought that awareness up and that also gave me the confidence to sort of share something that I definitely was not ready to share. I know I went a little bit uncomfortable with it, but I think you know it's. I'm really grateful for that Because I think you definitely make me feel like I can share anything and that it's worth listening to, because my inner critic will start being like, oh, I shouldn't have said that and I haven't got the diagnosis, all the things, and I'm like, oh, you know, I've jumped the gun here. Like what if they're like, nope, you're fine, and I'm just like, oh, okay, so I'm really grateful for that. Yeah, I think that was really helpful and I think that's really gonna help people moving forward start. We're all gonna get a lot more conscious when we're all gonna go doing the mundane things of cooking or going for walks or whatever. Just starting with those, even for me, I'm just gonna stop putting my phone as my first thing that I get in the morning.

Speaker 2:

And just see how I shop and feel.

Speaker 1:

What about you? What are you grateful for?

Speaker 2:

I'm really grateful that you just shared so vulnerable, as I said, like most people share. Well, after the fact, I would really love to ask something about community as well, and Tess will probably be squirming when I say this. If this episode has resonated with you, I'm not gonna ask you to review it or share it on social media or anything like that sort of stuff, but if this episode has hit something in you or if you feel have felt grateful to hear someone talk candidly about mental health, I would love it so much if you guys would send through a DM, because this is really important to share this and hear that it's resonating with people. But also, every time we respond positively to someone sharing something about mental health and tell them that it's okay to do that, it sends a message through our brain to say this is safe to talk about.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're so right and I really want you to feel that from our community because there'll be so many people listening to this episode right now being like, fuck, I'm really glad that they talked about that because it's helped me in ABC or that was really brave to talk about that, but they won't necessarily share that and if you feel aligned, if you feel called to it, I would love it if you would send a DM. I'm gonna leave the DMs for Tess to read, because I think this is really important. We talk about mental health really candidly, so really appreciate you talking about this at the time, not after the fact. Thank you, and I'm so glad that our community are gonna get so much out of this because there'll be other people in the same boat.

Speaker 1:

That's really beautiful, thank you. I also wanted to say acknowledge that I've had a couple of people send through some hippo content, which I'm incredibly grateful for, so thank you. That's a little nod to the episode before. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you'll have to scramble through and find it, but that was really lovely as well, so thank you. That's really beautiful. Thank you, mate. Let's leave her right there.

Speaker 2:

Leave her there, parker there. Thank you guys, so much for listening we really appreciate it.

Speaker 1:

Make a conscious guys. Love you all.

Speaker 2:

Thanks so much for listening to this episode and hanging out with us today To hear more about our journey. Follow us on Instagram at the underscore conscious underscore salon If you're a shit speller, check the spelling of conscious or at aheadhair underscore. Thank you so much for joining us today and we'll see you in the next episode.

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