The Conscious Salon

What you need to know about Salon Team Development Days

Nicola and Tessa Season 1 Episode 166

What if the key to building a strong, connected salon team before the silly season isn’t another checklist but honesty, pressure, and celebration?

In this episode, we take you behind the scenes of our Life Ahead Team Development Day: a mix of raw journaling, a horror-themed escape room, and a practical debrief on communication, roles, and trust. It was messy, emotional, and incredibly powerful. The biggest surprise? How clearly our team patterns showed up, and how small shifts in language and leadership can completely change the way your salon operates.

We talk about why journaling first thing clears emotion before the day even starts, and how a Saw-style escape room revealed who naturally leads, who supports, and who needs a moment to find their feet. It turns out, the way we play games is the way we work. From there, we dive into real tools like short scripts for asking for help, mapping communication styles, and reframing leadership as a circle where everyone can both give and receive support.

You’ll also hear real reflections from our stylists and leaders about sisterhood wounds, boundaries, and how to celebrate each other without losing focus. This is a must-watch for any salon or spa owner who wants to build a more united, resilient, and self-aware team especially before the holiday rush.

🎧 If this conversation resonated, make sure to like, subscribe, and share it with another salon owner who’s ready to elevate their culture. And don’t forget to leave a quick comment below. We’d love to hear how you support your team through big growth moments.

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SPEAKER_06:

This episode of the Conscious Salon Podcast is brought to you by Revlon Professional Australia. Welcome back to another episode of the Conscious Salon Podcast. Tess, we have five lovely guests in the room. Six including me. Seven including the dog. Six to seven. But we have just wrapped our team development day. And we always try and do a potty up when we have these team days because this is one of the most special parts of what we do at a head and really what started our work at the Conscious Salon. And it's really interesting because everyone that listens to this podcast will be people who are interested in self-development or trying to be better versions of themselves and working on themselves. And I think it's really important for salon owners when they're going through these changes and having all of this self-development to actually have the give the team the opportunity to pass that on to them as well. Because that's literally how we started our program, our life ahead program, which is our team development programme, which we started eight years ago. And it literally started because Tess and I were deep diving self-development, learning all of these amazing things that had completely changed our lives, and we wanted to pass it on to our teams. So we've just wrapped our Life Ahead Day, our final one for 2025. And we have the A team here, our ahead team sitting here, and we want to debrief the day with them. Tess, do you want to kick start and give a little bit of context as to what our intention was coming into this day?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. Um, so Nick and I we had a few different thoughts, and we've shared with the girls as well that we had one idea and then we pivoted from that, and then we went back to it, and then we like pivoted again, and it was really actually quite challenging to be able to come up with something for our team because they're all perfect. And we found it really challenging because normally before we'd be able to identify, you know, we can really help them with this and with that, and there wasn't a real clear thing that we were working on, but the big one that we have been like where we decided to go with it was really leveling up for our teamwork and communication, especially as we head into our most busy time of the year.

SPEAKER_06:

It was really interesting because yeah, usually we look at what the downfalls are in the team or what we can clearly see as an issue, and then we sort of base it off that, but there was nothing that was really screaming out at us, so we decided to over-prepare prepare for the silly season, which feels great. So we did a few different processes and then we took the team out for a um a little exercise together, which we're gonna get them to debrief. But Tess, I would love you to pass the mic down to Tay Tay.

SPEAKER_04:

Great.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh actually, no, hang on, the girls have got a mic. Ava, grab the mic. Ava is our newest team member. You've done a podcast episode with us before, though, Ava.

SPEAKER_05:

Turn it around the other way. Turn it around. There you go.

SPEAKER_06:

Perfect, there we go. But you've done a potty episode with us before. You are 18 years young, and you've been with us only for three months, four months. Yeah. Four months. Yeah, four months. And it's magical months. This was your first life ahead day today. How'd you find it?

SPEAKER_07:

I loved it. It was so good. It was um much better than like a much better experience as well for me than the retreat, just because I was so I think I was like much more nervous. And just because of how close I've gotten with um the team and you guys, it was just so much easier to share and to like fully enjoy it as well and have fun. So yeah, it's been really, really good.

SPEAKER_05:

That's actually worth mentioning as well, because Ava, I think, when I that was the first time I met you was at retreat. We had not met in person. So I was literally like, hi, bring in your suitcase and welcome and lovely to meet you. I think you'd only been with us for about two weeks at that point. So it was like, and it was a big the retreat, is always a big that is really our time to like really nut out what we're wanting to like nut out. So it was amazing. This is a little bit more fun and a little bit more lighter. How did you do you want to talk us through the day? What did yeah?

SPEAKER_07:

What was our what was the first thing that we did this morning? Um, so this morning we did um some journaling, which was always nice just to see where everyone is, if anyone needed to share anything and just how they're feeling in general, which was uh tears, lots of crying. Um, but it's good because we just all get to see where we all are currently, and it's just nice to talk and let things out before getting into the fun stuff, which we then did um the escape room, which was so fun, it was a bit scary, but it was good. Yes.

SPEAKER_05:

Um jump back quickly over to the journaling because this is something that we often get asked about how come we always start with journaling? And I know you're someone that loves journaling, like you have your own, you've got like a multitude of your own personal journals at home too. You're a she's a journaling girl. Yes. Why do you think journaling is so important when we start these sessions? What do you think is the biggest reason that it is such a key part of what we do?

SPEAKER_07:

Um, I think just the emotional release. Yeah. You really you to get that out of the way at the start as well. And you you can't really lie to the pages as well, because when you're sitting there and you're being asked a question, you're sitting there in silence, it's like, okay, now you actually need to reflect, yeah, and you need to be completely honest with yourself. So I think it's just very thought-provoking. Yeah. Um and it's just I think it's what's needed for us as well to start the session or to start the opening space, yeah. Yeah, and to hold space for each other as well. Agreed. Is good.

SPEAKER_05:

I love that you've said that because I think that's something that we get the biggest feedback of like, I don't want to do journaling. Because I think a lot of people look at it and they think that journaling looks only one type of way, or it's gonna create too much emotion, we're not gonna be able to like reel it back in. But I think what I really love more, I see you really loving it because you're you're a deep thinker. So for you to have that time and that space and to actually share what's happening for you and the safety to do that, because quite often we'll always kind of push ourselves to just always be okay and you know, not share these moments. But I really love how beautifully you share and like the fact that this is such a big part of who you are outside of this place because you were doing this well before coming into our space. What do you think if you were talking to salon owners that might be questioning whether this would actually be worth doing with their teams or potentially wanting to like scrap it, what would you say to them?

SPEAKER_07:

I would say that it's just it's something worth doing, especially for people that struggle to talk to each other and share with each other how they feel about each other and things that they are struggling with. Because once you've I I feel like it's very healing to write something down and then share it out loud because you're going off a script, but the script is like your inner thoughts. So I don't think it's something worth scrapping. It's just um it's confronting, but I think every I would tell a salon owner that they should definitely do it with their team, especially for people who struggle to um be on the spot and talk on the spot. Like they get time to themselves and then they get to face the challenge of sharing it with the people they spend every day with. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

I love that one. Great answer.

SPEAKER_06:

That's beautiful, Ava. I can't believe you're 18 every time. Um, Ava, I want you to take. Can you actually at the end of the day, we did, which I we're gonna get into when we pass the mic because we're gonna get everyone to talk about a different segment of the day. But my biggest standout with you today was the phrases that we got to write down. So we basically were talking about communication and how majority of people in the hair and beauty industry feel like a burden asking for help. And we really want to normalise asking for help and normalise healthy communication without getting into passive, avoidant, or reactive um tendencies and archetypes that we all have within us. Do you know, do you remember off the top of your head what one of your phrases was that you were going to commit to moving forward to be able to ask for help?

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, one of my main ones that I think I would definitely start using is it this is like specifically direct talking to someone is if you have hey, like if you have time, can I please ask you two questions? Like just being very specific about what your intention is and what you need from that person's time, especially if they're they've got a lot on their plate already. So just saying to the girls, like, hey Taya, if you have one minute, can I please just ask you these two questions? Like that would be appreciated.

SPEAKER_05:

So direct and gorgeous. I love that. It's great, so good, beautiful.

SPEAKER_06:

Thank you, Ava. Can you pass the mic down to Mills? Amelia. So Mills is our second year emerging stylist. Mills is killing it. She just opened up her foils package, and I think this is really important for other salon owners to hear as well because so many salon owners are hesitant to put emerging team onto doing foiling services and colouring services. But you are bloody killing it, and the feedback that we've had for your foils package so far has been incredible, and you're just blooming. It's like usually I feel like this is the point in everyone's apprenticeship that gets it gets really hard and it gets like a bit stagnant, a bit stale, and it it is hard, don't you think? Girls like this, hard to see the finish line light at the end of the tunnel, but you're just absolutely smashing it. How'd you find today, Mills?

SPEAKER_09:

Oh that's a great question. Um always eye-opening. I feel like there's always a lesson to be learned after a life ahead day. And even like when you go into it, you're like, you know, what are we gonna get out of today? And then by the time we get to this stage where you know we're all wrapped up, I feel like there's just so much that we can take away. And I feel like that's the really special part about it is that each one of us can take something away from this and learn and use that in our you know, in the workplace and when we walk out of the doors in our home life as well.

SPEAKER_06:

So Mills, after we did the journaling, what did we do? Where did we go? We went on a little excursion.

SPEAKER_09:

We went on a little excursion to an escape room. Well, not all of us, I might add.

SPEAKER_06:

One of us had to stay behind, and it was me.

SPEAKER_09:

Well, it was maximum for six people, so we're like, sorry, Tess, yeah, can't come. Um, yeah, so um well that's my second one with you guys as well, because we did one last year.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes.

SPEAKER_09:

Um, so obviously a bit different team as well.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09:

Um, so yeah, a little bit different to how I remember it when we did the first time.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, let's let's go back. How was it different in comparison with that? Like um first time you've done it whereas and second time you've done it, and with different people.

SPEAKER_09:

Um so having a few different team members, like I think Jazz and Nick were the only ones that were in the last one when we did it. Um and Tay, Jess, and Ava. Well, because Tess wasn't in this one. It wasn't the first one that was.

SPEAKER_05:

Obviously, this one was much worse. No, actually, let's talk realistically. What what what could you see when you're like thinking back? Even whether it's within yourself, within like the dynamic, what can you see was like the big difference? Because there were quite different rooms too, right? The first one that we did was was it the time travel one that we did last time?

SPEAKER_09:

It was um like a medical one, like we had the. Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that's right. And then this one was sore themed from the movie Saw.

SPEAKER_06:

And they did a really good job of the room. Like the room was, yeah, you said it was the best one that you've done. It was really I thought it was really good.

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Um, but I think yeah, the room itself was a lot more challenging, in my opinion, than when we did it the last time. So I think that really having that extra pressure changed a lot in like how we all responded, how we worked together and reacted to certain puzzles and stresses and stuff. Um, because yeah, the room, you know, it's got the scary scary scary music.

SPEAKER_05:

It looked really creepy. I don't think I would have been any help to you guys. I reckon I would have failed.

SPEAKER_09:

Absolutely. Um, but yeah, so like I think having that extra like, you know, pressure of like, oh, we're gonna die in this room if we don't get out and solve all the puzzles. But just yeah, seeing, you know, how each person like can handle being in that pressure, you know, some people really step forward and take on that leadership role, and others kind of can just step back and watch and just see what's going on. So just seeing how people can respond in those situations is yeah, always very interesting.

SPEAKER_05:

So, how do you think you went in this one versus the first one? What do you think is the key difference for you? Which whatever you've noticed when you think back.

SPEAKER_09:

I think pretty like the way I played, I think, is still pretty similar. I think it was just a more high pressure situation in this one where I was like, fuck, like what am I doing? Right. Um, and yeah, so a lot of it I was just kind of like watching back, seeing everyone else kind of handle all the different puzzles, and then if I'm like, oh, like wait, guys, there's this.

SPEAKER_05:

Um, but do you feel you were more effective in this one or the same or less?

SPEAKER_09:

Um I don't know, it's hard to say. I feel like I was less effective. I feel like the girls took charge in a lot of it. But not what I heard at all. I don't know. I mean, like, I think like those moments where I was like, oh guys, I think it's this. But other than that, I was like, I'll let you all take the reins.

SPEAKER_05:

You know what's interesting when you guys came back and we debriefed on it, and again, I like saw none of this, so I was literally living the experience through what you were sharing. What I heard was everyone had a different moment of like leadership or like taking charge or having that, like it didn't sound like anyone was kind of like completely step back, which I think is really indicative as to how you all work in terms of like within the salon. You guys really do, like I know that we've had like moments of this, but consistently you guys work and plug into each other really beautifully, which is where we found it really challenging to actually work out how we can best like support you and where we can level things up because you're already sitting at such a high standard. But I think even with that, of like the thinking of like the from where I can hear you speaking on it, this situation was even more pressured. But the result, you guys still got out, you still were able to like have the support, and like there was no one that was like super frustrated or like left alone. Like you guys might have had moments of like those things, but at the end of the day, you all can ban uh what's the thing, not comband, can oh my gosh, band together, band together and get it done. Yeah. And I think this is something that you really do, like all of you, so well, is you all have each other's backs and all like no matter what the pressure is, you always are working together and not on your own. Mills, what would you say would be like one word to describe how that escape room experience, not necessarily the like scary side of it, when you think of it and like the actual like solving and getting out? What would you say one word to summarize the experience overall?

SPEAKER_09:

I don't know if I have like one word. Like I feel like it was just interesting to see how from where we started when we came in to how we evolved by the time we got out. I think right by the end, we all just kind of came together and knew what we were like doing. So it was very different to like how we started when it was like chaotic and there was like things happening everywhere, and then the last few things were like, yeah, you do that, you do that, you do that, and then we got out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

We talked about that afterwards about everyone sort of assumed their own role. So like one person was on the um the torch, one person was on the clue, then the other person was on the um picklock thing, like the padlocks, and everyone sort of had their same thing that they kept doing it on each thing. It really fell into place beautifully. That's amazing, Mills. Thank you for sharing. Mills, can you pass the mic down to Jessie Girl? So Jess has been with us for nearly a year, a magical year. Bon anniversaire almost. Jessie is one of our seniors, and she has been one of the most incredible gifts that we've had in this business, and she's also had a really transformative year. So, Jessie, how was today for you? And I want to mostly ask you about the debrief when we came back after the escape room and the things that you learnt about yourself in the way that you showed up in the escape room.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, so I think like going into the escape room, I was one really scared because I hate horror. And it was hack what's the theme? Like hacksaw. I don't even know the movie.

SPEAKER_05:

Was anyone a fan of Zor? Can I just ask me? I love horror. Nikki, yeah. Nikki, there was that's I was quite happy to say I love horrors. Nikki, I don't do horror either.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, so yeah, it was quite scary for me, even just thinking like I don't know what I'm going into. We like got blindfolded and then handcuffed. So yeah, so it was like the added scariness for me of not knowing what I was going into. Um, and I normally can handle things pretty well, but yeah, that was a scary moment. Um, and yeah, so when we got in, I sort of sat and I was like observing a lot. I really didn't feel like I had a a place, like I thought straight away that you know, I my brain doesn't work like this, I'm not wide this way, I have nothing to contribute. Um, and those thoughts like instantly came flooding in, and I just felt like I'm just gonna sit back and just watch everyone for a second. Um, and I didn't really contribute at all because I just felt like this is so overwhelming. Um, so yeah, and then it wasn't until maybe like halfway through that I started to like find a little bit of a groove. I started to try and solve a few things, and I was like, okay, I think I got this. Like, I'm just gonna throw myself in. And one of the intentions for me today was to not be scared by the theme and just try and give it a go.

SPEAKER_03:

Have a fun.

SPEAKER_08:

Um, so yeah, so and then halfway through I had to remind myself that that's what I was here for and to just not let it get to me and just try my best and see if I can contribute in any way. So yeah. And did you? Yeah, a few times by the end, I was like solving a couple of things. But um, yeah, I think automatically, especially for escape rooms, it's something that always comes up for me that I'm like, I just can't do this, like it's not something that I my brain I can't solve riddles, my brain doesn't work that way, I'm not wired this way. So those thoughts like instantly came flooding in.

SPEAKER_06:

And then by the end, do you know what I also saw from you, Jesse? I saw so many moments of you jumping in and problem solving, but the way that you celebrated the girls when they got a problem, like when they solved a problem, the way that you jumped up and down and were clapping and carrying on, the fact that you were in a good way. Carry-on's a great thing. Um the way that you were celebrating them so much was so beautiful. So even though you were nervous, and I could see you were nervous, and I could see the moments where it was really interesting just to step back and really observe and to see the moments where some of you guys stepped forwards, some of you were like, Fuck yeah, I know the answer to this, and some of you would move backwards, and there was different points for everyone. But one thing I consistently saw with you is every single time someone got something right or solved a problem, you were over the moon. And that really was getting out of his place. No, you were celebrating the women and supporting them, and it was so beautiful to see. So that was a really big takeaway that I took from you, and the way that you were in the room. What was what did we learn about the way that we play games when we came back? Oh do you remember what they said? The way you play games is the way you play.

SPEAKER_08:

Live.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, yeah. That is what uh our first ever mentor said to us after putting us in a high-pressured game and Tess and I losing the plot and yelling at everyone. The way you play games is the way you play life. So it's really interesting to see that some of those themes that are coming up for all of us are really prevalent. What's your biggest takeaway from today?

SPEAKER_08:

Um, I just think that you know, coming into this, um, obviously we didn't know what the like theme of today was, and we always talk about in our pump-ups like our teamwork and how well we communicate and all of that. And I think just actually, when you go even deeper into it, you can still find things to improve on. And even though like we talk about our teamwork all the time and how good we are as a team, and you would think that there is nothing to improve, but there still is things that we can do, each of us to work on it and make it even better. So I think just that um was like pretty massive to do, and even working on the communication stuff.

SPEAKER_05:

I think that always plays into you know what we speak about and what we've spoken about a lot of today, like always working on becoming the next version, the better version, the more improved, the woman I'm becoming, the team member I'm becoming. It's never hitting that point and just going this way. This is where we're at. Like we found our baseline. It's constantly elevating, and there's a certain type of person that can do that, and you five other women that can do that. And I think that's where it really does, like it can be at a good point. It's not about there not being enough, it's just about how do we keep going to that next level. Because none of you want to stay stagnant. That's the thing we know about you constantly wanting to push to evolve, to grow. But it's also why you guys get so much out of these. You know, there are people that will do these days and not and we've had team before that we will do these days and they will not hit. They won't get the same takeaways, they won't get it, can even be for moments for like especially some of our like OGs that have had multiples, there will be certain days we'd be like, I'm gonna get much out of that. And it's because of where you're at at that moment. You may not have been super inspired to do it. It may not have felt right, you may not have felt connected or like trusting it whether it's us or the situation or the group or whatever it is that's playing out. But the fact that even with this, what I saw today and how you know, especially when we're journaling this morning, the way that you all share, and you I know you guys all have each other's backs, like that teamwork, that like genuine sistership is real, but seeing it today go from already pretty fucking incredible up to like a new level again.

SPEAKER_06:

What a what a gift. Yeah, what a gift is here. Magic. Thank you, Jesse. Can you pass the mic to Jazzy Girl? So Jasmine has been with us for four years. Hello, four magical years. She's no stranger to a life ahead day. She could probably run a life ahead day, let's be honest. Let's not do that. Let's and I love the surprise. Jazzy has had a very, very transformational 12 months. And especially in your professional life, I think you've had a really transformational six months. It started at the last retreat, at the team retreat that we had. Well, when was that, three months ago? And we just saw this completely different version of Jazzy, and you have continued to blossom and bloom and become what I believe to be more your more authentic self. And seeing you today is honestly, I can say hand on heart, the happiest I've seen you probably ever since I've known you, has been today, which is incredible. Jazzy, tell me a little bit about today and what you took out of it.

SPEAKER_00:

Um we did an escape room. Uh-oh. Um, I think it's just like strengthening the bond that we've got with our current team. Um because we I feel like we see each other every day, but especially when we're busy, we tend to lose that communication, like that connection side of talking about ourselves and what we're going through. Um, so I think it's really nice to sit down, especially with the journaling and like chat to what's going on in our personal life so we can understand each other a lot more.

SPEAKER_05:

That's a big thing that um especially for the last I would say like six or twelve months, Jazzy, you've really been wanting to like push into being vulnerable, pushing into sharing, because that's not something that comes naturally for you. Nah. Jazzy is someone that is like truly the definition of like some like a happy and bubbly person. And I think what you've been really pushing through lately is still being that that version of yourself, but also allowing the struggles and the um the more or like um vulnerable side of you to come forward and seeing you doing that in the way that you do and have done that now consistently for I would say a minimum of six months, maybe even longer. But how do you feel now when you go into like journaling and when you come to share? How do you feel within yourself?

SPEAKER_00:

I think just like pushing through, um, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Uncomfortability sometimes. Um, but I think I was even thinking just before when the girls were sharing, a lot of the past life ahead days I've had things going on. Um, I've had some grief and stuff, and I think this is the first one I've come in feeling really good mindset-wise. Isn't that beautiful? Um, so it's been completely different for me today.

SPEAKER_05:

And even that's really like great to even acknowledge just recognition of like I've had struggles and things happening, and today I'm feeling really good. That doesn't mean that you don't you've still shared really openly and really vulnerably, and you've still like had deep impact with things, but just even that acknowledgement of like, wow, this is what doing the work does. Yeah, it leads you to oh I feel good. Yeah, whoa, hang on a second. Wait a minute. That always makes me nervy though. I feel like I'm like I've done that before I've gone into a retreat. I remember Nikki saying, like, oh, I'm just so nervous, like I've got all these things happening. I was like, Well, I feel fine. I was like, no. But I feel like for you, you've already done the work to get to this point. Now it is gonna be reap the benefits. All the benefits for a while, which is gonna be lovely.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

What do you feel in terms of that as a team member that may like you know now? We've got the um the opposite, like with Ava, who is a journaler who still might have that same thing, but like I think sharing gives like a little um insight into who you are. So taking that, whereas for you it might be a little bit more of a like, I want to share, but I want to control the amount that I'm sharing, or whatever it is that it is that where that share or like that actually allowing people to see you.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

What would you say the same way that I asked Ava to salon owners that may not give this opportunity or not see the benefit in it? How would you say that you found the benefit in sharing and pushing through those that stop or that like actually, especially within you we've spoken about you being with us for four years and really this authentic version? What do you think you would say to sell on owners that may not see the benefit in doing this sort of work?

SPEAKER_00:

It I just think it definitely creates a safe like space, and we've got such a trust with you girls as well that I know whatever I say today, you're not gonna come in on Tuesday and be like, right. Like, yeah, it just 100%. There's no judgment, which is really nice. And I think a lot of like as women, um, we tend to keep things to ourselves. Um, and a lot of people might not have a safe space where they can talk about what's on their mind. So yeah, it's it's powerful.

SPEAKER_05:

It's so powerful, and I think that's something that is so important because what you like we can put all of these things in front of you, what you take and how you make them your own is completely up to you. And what I've seen from you in the last six to twelve months has been that real thing of like, I am gonna start taking this for myself. I'm not gonna sit surface, I'm really going balls to the wall. And I know everyone in here has my back doing that, and I think that's a really beautiful change that I see. Yeah, I love that. Thank you so much for sharing. Thank you, Jersey.

SPEAKER_02:

Nikki's still here.

SPEAKER_06:

I want you to leave us with what you're proud of yourself for today.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know. It's a good day. I feel like you've got an answer that you're like trying to I'm always proud of you.

SPEAKER_06:

Looking I've got a hundred answers. What do you feel really proud of?

SPEAKER_00:

Or it doesn't necessarily have to be for today, but what are you proud of for yourself this year? Oh um, I think definitely like the growth. Yeah. And I think especially with you saying like sometimes these days might not land. Like I always love a life ahead day. Um, but I think definitely like more so me putting in the work for myself. Yeah. Worthy of the work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

There's also the compounding effect. We always say to the girls, like, you just you can't put pressure on days like this. Tesla, I used to go into retreats and conferences and be like, this has to be life changing for us to be able to walk away being like, we've got our money's worth, or we've got our time's worth, or whatever it is that we had this hectic experience. Expectations around, and now we go into it with no pressure, knowing that we could walk away with a micro shift or a macro shift, and it it's all compounding, it is all making that up, and all the work that you've done in the past four years has literally made up for this moment of being able to be like you're in a completely different state, regulation-wise, like being able to self-regulate, being able to trust yourself in a different level, being able to be authentic, like it's just you have literally bloomed in front of our very eyes, and it's such a privilege to see. So thank you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you're welcome. I think I was thinking before when you guys said it's come full circle, we did the arrow break last year, yeah, year before. Four months ago, yeah. Two years ago, two years ago. Yeah, and I wrote something on there about like I am worthy or something. Yeah, I'm getting rid of loneliness. Um and 100% things come back. So yeah. Wow, have to get another arrow. What am I going to do? I love that. That's amazing. How cool's that? Yeah, which is really cute. I love that.

SPEAKER_06:

Incredible. Great too. Thank you. Thank you, Jazzy. Jazzy, can you pass the mic along to our serial offender of the Contrastalon podcast, Tay Tay? So Tay Tay's our team leader. Hello. And we have had the privilege of knowing each other for six years.

SPEAKER_02:

Longer than that.

SPEAKER_06:

Why are you saying longer than that? We argue about this all the time.

SPEAKER_01:

We've known each other for three decades.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. Ten years. What are we saying that it is? Is it eight years? A long time anyway. Can we work out what it is? Anyway, Teddy has been in our lives for a very long time. And today was really pivotal for you. I noticed a few really big shifts for you. And I think there'll be some massive takeaways. But I would love you to share what we did with the archetype quiz and how it affected you.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, so we did a quiz where it at the end of it it told us which archetype we are as a team member. And it was a really hard quiz. Some of the questions I had no idea how to answer. Um, but it was really, really interesting because my result on it was that I was um passive, but then we went through what it actually meant on each archetype, and I really resonated more with the avoidant, um, which is really, really interesting. But obviously, how I answered was a little bit different, but I can definitely see how that plays out in like in here in the salon, but then also in my home life as well, for sure.

SPEAKER_06:

What did you notice about in the salon? Because we don't need to delve and tell all your secrets about your home life. Josh will be able to confirm those later on with us. But what did you notice in terms of the things that come up for you in the salon with being avoidant?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I think just definitely not wanting to burden anyone with what I have going on. I think, especially being a team leader, I have a very high expectation of myself to be strong, be okay, and like be the rock for everyone else. So I think in my brain, I'm like, if I'm not strong, then how does anyone else rely on me or you know be able to confide in me or you know, need my support? Um, so often I will drown and kind of just do it to myself. But today um has just reaffirmed, which I knew I know all the girls are always there to support me, but it's definitely reaffirmed that I need to speak up and that you can't do it all on your own, and that's what your team is there for. As much as you're there to support them, they're there to do the exact same. And it's not fair to not be able to give them the opportunity to do that as well.

SPEAKER_05:

Beautiful. Yeah, I think that is something that is so like play that part again, if that is like something you're like, oh, what was that? Go back. Because it is you literally like you gave them the opportunity to really see you in your vulnerability, similar to Jazzy. Actually, everyone gave everyone the opportunity to see that each other in your vulnerability, and you all gave each other permission to do that and to trust that and to go with that, which is so special. How do you feel in terms of where you started today and how you're feeling now?

SPEAKER_01:

So much lighter. Yeah, yeah. I um have just been feeling a bit overwhelmed lately. I think I've got a lot going on, um, which is great, and I, you know, all the things that going on are such fun things, so I think I have that resentment within myself of feeling overwhelmed. Um, but I think just like vocalizing where I'm at and letting everyone else know, and like um giving myself the um uh what's the word I'm looking for? Like giving myself the permission, yes, thank you. Permission to ask for help and you know not be all strong all the time and you know be okay to not be okay.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, even that like keeping that facade of like oh I'm amazing all the time, 24-7. It's fucking exhausting. So just the fact that you've shared. And who feels closer to Taya now that they know that she's yep, it's like that. No one left you or rejected you. Everyone said let us help. Which is the thing. We have that, and we spoke about this really openly as a collective. Majority of the time for us in here and for you at home listening to this, we don't share the deep dark things because we don't want to burden people or and like put that out there. We don't want to like bring people down with it, and pushing through that, actually sharing and saying, Hey, this is what's happening, gives people the opportunity to grab onto our hands and say, I've got you. And you did that today, which is great.

SPEAKER_03:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06:

I was sharing with the girls this morning. I'm reading a book at the moment called Leaders Eat Last, and I said to Tay this morning as a team leader, like you one of the biggest things that you are there to do is to protect the tribe. And I you know, sometimes that comes with sacrifice, and sometimes that comes with pressure, but you're also a member of that tribe as well, so it's about protecting yourself as well as protecting everyone else in that in that crew, and vice versa, the girls doing that for you as well. Massive. I've seen a massive shift in you today. Thank you. Thank you, guys. These days are just so important, and I really want to say thank you to the A Team for being here and thank you, Angel, for actually putting yourselves like going all in on these days, because we could do these days for a completely different audience and it would never land. And the fact that you guys are always willing to be so vulnerable and so open, like, yes, we've built that trust, but you guys have really taken that opportunity and lent into it, and it doesn't always work. So we are so unbelievably grateful to every single one of you guys for creating this incredible space. And we spoke this morning about the fact that we have the ability to heal sisterhood wounds in here, which all of us have, they run deep in every single woman. And in this space, what we're doing here is we are creating a space where it's safe to have relationships with women, and that's something that we will change generationally for our kids and for our daughters, and to completely rewrite the way that women feel safe in relationships with other women and friendships with other women. So, thank you guys for doing the work. Thank you. Thank you guys for listening to another episode of the Conscious Salon podcast.

SPEAKER_05:

Love you guys, stay conscious.