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Keny, Louis, Tom Season 2 Episode 34

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Ever chuckled at the thought of aging only to realize that it's catching up quicker than you expected? That's exactly what happened to us! Join me, Keny Cottman, Louis Crawford, and Tom Ramage, the Jersey Guy, as we swap stories and share a few laughs about the realities of growing older. This candid chat is filled with unexpected wisdom and insights as we discuss not just the downsides of aging but also the positives it brings, like a better understanding of our own selves.

You know that harsh physical pain that seems to be a constant companion, especially as we age? We've felt it too and it led to a fascinating exploration of holistic treatments versus traditional medication. Remember the good old Bufferin? We reminisce about these old remedies and share our own personal journeys dealing with recurring ailments. Plus, a candid chat on our health concerns, family history of life expectancy, and our attempts to extend our own lifespans.

Can you imagine becoming a cyborg? We certainly did! In a rather imaginative turn, we veer into the realms of midlife crises, supercars, the concept of uploading consciousness into a computer, and even the idea of transforming into a cyborg. As we wrap up, we advocate the importance of a healthy diet and lifestyle, the joy of cooking, and the thrill of pursuing hobbies in our golden years. Join us for this humorous yet poignant conversation - it's sure to leave you pondering about your own aging journey.

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Aging and Dealing With Physical Pain

Tom

Cotman, crawford and the Jersey Guy podcast.

Keny

Hey everybody, kenny Cotman, lewis Crawford.

Tom

And I'm Tom Remmage, the Jersey Guy.

Keny

Hey my people.

Louis

So yes, we're having a good old time. We are absolutely. Yeah, we're dancing to our own theme song this guy, we're in the intro.

Keny

Yeah, that's freaking hilarious. How's everybody's week? How's everybody doing?

Tom

Good, good, everything's great.

Keny

Yes, Senor Lewis.

Tom

Good man.

Louis

Joe Chilling Bobby. End of the week Weekend. I like that.

Keny

Yeah, tom bro was getting to that time Like.

Louis

Halloween, bro. Yeah, your son is in his glory.

Tom

Yeah, getting ready to put the Halloween decorations up. So you know, it's great my mom's staying. I told her I'd give her a shout out first. So, hi, mom, shout out to you because I left to go to the podcast today. Yeah. Yeah, so that is why we're going to be doing our Christmas Halloween decorations, and my son has acquired a large amount of animatronics.

Louis

He can't sleep at night, he's probably just we have 13 animatronics already in a matter of three years. I think he should stop right at that number, just for the fact that it's 13.

Keny

Yeah, it's Halloween.

Tom

Well, actually technically 14, we did get something, but it's I guess it's considered animatronic. It's like a ghost that goes on a wall. That goes between, like wall to wall, and rides a string and goes.

Keny

That's what that does, Now you're going to set up in the front lawn kind of thing, or you're going to just sit.

Tom

Yeah, everything's on the front lawn. That's going to be so great and then we're going to put, and then some of the animatronics we'll put on the driveway.

Keny

Oh, okay, okay, and you're going to set them up this weekend.

Tom

Yeah, I mean we're going to see where we're going to put the animatronics and then, but I think some of them we got to bring inside.

Keny

Because not like all waterproof A?

Tom

lot of them aren't waterproof, so I got to kind of stay in the garage and come out of the garage.

Keny

Like if we'll put them out on the weekend. You know what I mean. Right, right, right.

Tom

A lot of them aren't waterproof. They say, Ken waterproof. You can put like Saran wrap on the gearbox, scotch guard it. But I don't want to mess around with that.

Keny

That's too much work.

Tom

Yeah, I'm going to put it on the car. Oh wow, I'll fucking it up Exactly.

Keny

Yeah, no, that is great. Well, at least you know I'm cool with the. At least you waited until October.

Tom

Yeah, exactly.

Keny

I'm cool with that. There's that early shit.

Tom

I'm like yeah, I mean, I love it. Yeah, we did one. Well, indoor stuff came out early. We had stuff already on like top of the TV stand.

Keny

Yeah, what I'm saying is like it's in your house, it's not like you know. You have a yeah.

Tom

Like you haven't been outside. Chase can't help himself.

Keny

He's got to get some. Yeah, that's cool, but that's not, that doesn't count. You know Right, that's groovy.

Tom

So what are we talking about today? The actual topic, if anyone is listening, yeah.

Louis

Obviously, they didn't have a clue of what we were talking about None None, but that was cool though, because that's good stuff. Yeah, he loves that stuff.

Keny

Yeah.

Louis

It's about. It's about aging.

Keny

Yeah, fuck that. It's about aging, because now it's for the birds.

Tom

Fuck this shit.

Louis

Yeah, yeah. And now we're at a point in our lives that what I've been, what you've only been figuring out, is that we have to. We're not the person that we are in our head or our soul, or whatever you, whatever you yeah. We don't feel where we are as far as Now. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, I'm not old in the sense of you know, I'm elderly or anything like that, but I'm 57 years old and things are starting to feel different than they did before, and now I have to take things in a different direction.

Louis

Yeah. So you really just have to realize that it's probably I think it's probably the best thing to do, because if you deny it, I mean, but that doesn't mean that I would stop doing the exercising or anything like that. You just gotta kind of do it in a different way. Yeah, sometimes you have to just go a different direction.

Keny

I'm not denying. I'm just denying that it happened so fast. Yes, it's happening so fast. I'd say it is happening so fast.

Tom

Yeah, it's crazy this is bullshit. I remember, I was just thinking.

Keny

It's just a pup man, I know, but I was thinking the other day I was just thinking like wow.

Tom

Like I felt like my 20s was like, not that long ago. I'm 40 fucking two now.

Keny

Yeah, and it was a lot longer than what happened. What?

Tom

happened.

Louis

I just felt like it just went, it's gone Right For all those people we used to laugh at they go you know what the older people back in the days. Yeah, you know what you need to live your life. Don't worry about that. You know what are you talking about?

Keny

Yeah, exactly. And now you're over there and you're like yeah, yeah, yeah, you're like oh, get it now. Yeah, it's just shit, it's fucking, it's just painful.

Louis

It's not that it's, it's just yeah. But I mean there's a lot of good stuff that we get out of it too, because we're in a different point of our lives, and hopefully in your own mindset as well. You have matured and you've gotten to a place where you are comfortable with who you are and what you like.

Keny

Right. Well, that's not my issue, it's the fucking pain that's kicking my ass.

Louis

I know I get it. You know what I mean. Totally with you, bro, yeah.

Keny

Like we were talking earlier before the show. We were talking about the car accident, yeah, and I remember I had an accident on my motorcycle and I hit a deer and this shit hurts more than that fucking deer did Like serious shit, you know. And it's like three weeks and I'm like yeah, nah, still hurting.

Louis

Yeah, bro, because you got jarred. It's that bull shit. You got blindsided, you had no clue.

Keny

But that's why you figured that it would be less time, less pain, because I was loose, you know what I'm saying. Like I wasn't pain-intentioned, I didn't tense up for the hit and it just happened. And I'm just like oh, this is bull shit. Like I'm fucking hurting. I can't even lay down right in the bed Like, oh, this way, this way, that way, yeah, this is bull shit. Man, I can't say it enough. I know, bro, I get it. This is so sucks.

Louis

I'm not giving up without a fight.

Keny

Yeah, I know, and it's crazy because I'm injured, right now too.

Louis

You know, I know it's been giving me problems for like almost two months now. Now I re-injured it. So now I have to like, totally like, take, don't do anything other than what I need to do every day. Just, you know, go to work, do them, don't do anything other than that and let it heal. Because that's the thing when you're young you heal quicker, right, right. And in your mind you're like oh yeah, I'll be fine. No, hold on a second, bro. Yeah, you're, and I just you look at the clock at 57 now.

Tom

Yeah, things change Exactly. It's great For me too. I'm 42. I just went to the orthopedist. I got my neck problems. I had to go to start going to physical therapy and shit.

Keny

Oh, do you know shit?

Tom

Yeah, for my neck. I have like a problem with my neck. I get stiff neck all the time. I have a chronic pain in my neck. I just get stiff neck all the time. So now I'm doing these like stretching exercises. Yeah, I see I never even think we're stretching exercises. Really, we'll all see you guys later, but yeah.

Louis

Right, yeah, no, I can hit this. I do the same thing, yeah.

Discussing Pain, Medication, and Aging

Tom

You're good with the physical therapy. Yeah, I try this, when I pull my back. Lou's like, oh, you got to do you got these stretches.

Louis

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, because I'm Lou's good with that.

Keny

Yeah.

Louis

Time you'll ask me, because I'll like, I'll look, I'll examine myself to the point where I'll say, okay, what muscle is this? So I'll look up a muscle graph on whatever part of the body I'm looking at. Okay, okay, it's in this area, so it's got to be that, okay. And then you look up things that could be happening with that.

Keny

What would you?

Louis

get. And I'm right on the money.

Keny

Usually I'm yeah, I'm like you're such a nerd.

Louis

I'm like I'm gonna figure it out because I want to know what it is.

Tom

I don't want to go on pills, I don't want to do any of shit, I want to figure it out. That's better, that's fucking.

Louis

Right, you know what I mean. I want to just I'm the same way.

Tom

I don't like throwing a medication at a problem.

Louis

Right.

Keny

It's just like here just take this book, you know, and fucking yeah, you want to do it holistically as much as you could.

Tom

Right, exactly. And then pills should be after that.

Keny

Yeah, that's it.

Tom

We've exhorted that you got to take some kind of medication.

Keny

That's what I got to start doing. I got to really start looking at it that way because I'm quick to take, you know, like excedrin or whatever.

Louis

No, it's just a master problem.

Keny

But the craziest that Excedrin's the only shit that works on me, like I get crazy headaches, and excedrin's the only shit that really works. You know that takes the edge off of that kind of pain. Yeah, and oxys and and what's the other perks.

Tom

They don't fucking work. Oh really, they don't work on me. Oh they don't. No, yeah, I'm looking at the doctor. That's scary for surgery.

Keny

That's because that's what they give you after the surgery yeah Listen, I'm like this shit don't work. Well, that's the very.

Tom

They're very careful now the way they do it, they have to, just Right. They won't even give it to you, right, yeah, and it's only a certain number. Yeah, right, like the, like the, the pharmacy could put in there.

Louis

Yeah, and this is all you get.

Keny

Yeah With everything that happens, so like the ambulance took me away from the With the accident. Yeah, and the doctor like well, what can give you this? I mean, I was like, well, none of that shit really works. You're like what? And I was like none of it works. That's why I have such a high tolerance for pain yeah.

Keny

And he looked at me for a second and I was like, hmm, well, I'm going to give you a perk, see if you can handle that. I'm like, okay, he gave me a perk and I'm like I, it took the edge off, like now I can breathe, you know? Yeah, it's like I feel like I can't still move.

Louis

Yeah, but don't forget either. Yeah, your adrenaline was already off the roof.

Keny

Well, that was already. No, the roof man, that was even after, like I said, while sitting in, yeah, but you're still in that.

Louis

It may have just happened, maybe 20 minutes, half hour, 45 minutes ago, but you're still in, okay.

Keny

You're dead.

Louis

I had that happen to me when I dislocated my shoulder.

Keny

Hmm.

Louis

My back now and I went to the hospital and they gave me medication for it. They did it like two times. I'm like, yeah, no, no. So I'm working, sorry, and then they just popped it in. You know what I mean. But I was too, my adrenaline was too high, or whatever happened when it happened, and then that just kind of took over. The body was like, yeah.

Keny

Yeah well, I've taken it in the past, before this accident, for I had a wisdom tooth pulled and they gave me the perks to help after that. Doesn't help, bro Like seriously.

Louis

You have to regular over the counter stuff is what works for you yeah, for the most part yeah. Excedrin's really caffeine and an aspirin. Right, yeah, that's pretty much what it is, excedrin's do work for migraines though, because when I get one, I take those in the media. Take them bitches real quick. Remember.

Keny

Bufferins yeah, see, naheo, this is the old man talk. So if people thought we fell off of the topic, we're still here. This was the old man conversation. Those were super strong. My mother used to have those. What is that?

Louis

Bufferin.

Tom

I don't even know what that means. Yeah, they had their own version.

Louis

I'm pretty sure I'm right on this. If not, please someone correct me if I'm giving more information. But those were like the excedrin for the time, the excedrin was still out.

Tom

Yeah, I think so.

Louis

But it was another brand, right, they were just as strong. Yeah, they were strong man, that was no joke.

Keny

Yeah, no, these aches and pains are just ridiculous. As I went to my primary, the other day and he comes into the room and like bro, what's going on? He's like bro, bro, we're not bros. I haven't seen you in like four years.

Tom

We're not bros anymore. You get to earn this. I'm like what?

Keny

am I just saying Right, I've been living Like, yeah, whatever. So he's like yeah, you know what? So it was a post examination from the accident, so it was setting up for me to actually come in in another month for my full physical and shit. And he's like you know what? We had to check for colon cancer.

Louis

I'm like, oh, motherfucker, oh, you're going in for one.

Keny

Right, no, no, no, so he's telling me that you know what.

Louis

I did it twice already.

Keny

No, listen. He says I'm going to send a cola guard to your house. Oh snap. So now I got a cola guard. Now the box comes in and there's no kind of discreet.

Louis

You got to play with your own poop.

Keny

No, no, no. What I'm saying to you is that it's not even discreet. So anybody, to any of the neighbors that see the cola guard boxes at my fucking door.

Keny

I'm like what the hell, man? And then then, like you said, I got to play with my stuff. I was asking my wife to hold it while I took the dump. She's like, no, yeah, whatever, I'm going to call one of the kids and they don't do it, they're going to get punished, yeah. Meanwhile, all the kids are, like you know, 19 and up. They're freaking out loud, you guys are scaring me.

Louis

Yeah, so I did it twice. You're in for it, you guys are scaring me, I haven't had to do it.

Tom

Yeah, I'm like freaking out right here. You guys are talking about this Mike Park, I don't know what the matter is, I had two colonoscopies Dude already Two.

Louis

Yeah, I don't have to do another one for 10 years.

Keny

Ok, probably nine years now, because the year went by, yeah.

Louis

I don't have to do another one for nine years because fortunately, everything was cool. There was no you know, and he was like you're fine, but that's the only time I want to see you. As then, back to that time.

Keny

Well, I'm going to have to go.

Louis

I'm fortunate for that thing.

Keny

I'm thankful for that as well. So, oh man conversation.

Louis

Yeah, fucking pain Listen bro, it's funny now because we get the wisdom too, bro. Yeah, wisdom, we get the. Hopefully we get that you know, yeah, exactly we learn that and we enjoy the things better than we did when we were young. In a lot of ways we were so when you don't get me wrong- I love being young and I love growing up Right, right. I definitely do not like the pain, for sure.

Louis

Oh yeah, no, but yeah, no, we trade that into it, yeah, I think, if one thing away to hey, listen, I don't mind being the sage before crying out loud, give it a yeah. Yeah, I take the pain. I don't want it anymore.

Keny

Yeah, no shit, I was making a joke. I said so I'm 51. So now you know we're looking at when we're in that, that the AI, you know they're making the prosthetics the groovy prosthetic arms. But yeah, I'm doing the big, big, big, big, big, big, big big. But yeah so you know all the prosthetics, how they looking and whatnot. I said, listen, I have arthritis in my neck. Get rid of the fucking arthritis. Put in a metal little thing in there to turn around and, you know, take over for the bone.

Louis

You know. So make, yeah, like make a metal spine.

Keny

Ok, they do, they're already doing that Exactly, but it's going to be really good in like the next five, 10 years, yeah, and hopefully you won't need it. No, no, I want it because make me fucking by on it.

Louis

Yeah, I don't want this fucking pain bro.

Tom

Oh yeah, $60 million, man Get all day.

Keny

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and only few people know what that is, but you know.

Discussing Aging and Health Concerns

Louis

Steve Austin right here. That's right, baby. I looked it bro, I look six and right.

Keny

So that's what I want to be Bionic. Make me by on it, fuck that shit. Hell, yeah, he's going to be the board.

Tom

You what he's going to be the board yeah.

Keny

I'll be the board. Fuck that. Yes, do it Simulate. Yes, we're going to simulate.

Tom

Yes.

Keny

Yeah, go ahead, do it you want to do it.

Tom

Yeah, I want to do it. No, I don't, I'm not going to. Oh no, you're not. I'm not, I don't know what. Enough to do.

Louis

Oh yeah, you need to do the voice, yeah, you can't, you can't.

Tom

The voice of a turpentine.

Keny

No, it was only on what's in it. Oh, a terminator, you're doing it Board. That's how I was doing board.

Louis

Yeah, I'm just a huge do-board guy. I was doing something I'm not a golivism.

Keny

The big tissue. Well you know what? That's why I'm going. I'm ready for that. Now you think about death. Yeah, a little bit more.

Louis

Of course I think about it all the time, to be honest.

Keny

Right. So now you're thinking about death and, like you know, because you're at that age and you're like fuck, so I want to be a cyborg. Maybe I'll get a, you know, you get a little more time out of it.

Tom

I'm getting a little bit more time out of it, right, why not? My friend and Steve Vonn? He's got to do the voice.

Keny

He's got so many voices he does he just goes for walking. Really good, that's the one, really good, that's it. That's it. But see again, that's the old man.

Louis

Talk, yeah, who can imitate Christopher Walker better. What do they say? They say Christopher, you still have. How many years you think you have left?

Tom

Yeah, I think I have a certain amount of years left and made. I think I'll start to here it is. Here we go, here we go.

Keny

No, I mean what If I'm 51, you know, I've had both sides of the family. Everybody's been 75 or better.

Louis

OK, you know what I mean 75 or 100. So you got another 25 years I'm the low side Right 20 years or something like that. I quit smoking cigarettes and shit like that, and if you get more out of it, then yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I just want to be able to annoy people. Right, your faculties, that's the main thing.

Keny

That's what it is. Yeah, because once I start drooling on myself, I'm going to get out. It's over, yeah.

Tom

For the lifespan in my family, because everybody in my family that's died it's been from cancer, from smoking or whatever which are related, probably from smoking somehow. Like my father died when he was 53. From lung cancer. Well, he just turned 54. Like a month later. He died just from having cancer for so long. My grandmother, my maternal grandmother, died when I was four years old. She smoked Chester Fields.

Louis

Geez, no fucking filters. My mother smoked Chester Fields. My father smoked camels yeah.

Tom

My uncle smoked Paul Moles, my maternal grandfather. He died just old age. He died like at 83.

Keny

OK Well, did he smoke and stuff? No, never touched a cigarette. You don't smoke.

Tom

I used to but, years ago, I think so. I mean so. So my dad smoked.

Louis

Yeah, ok, and he just passed away right.

Keny

Yeah, but he quit smoking for right but he was 84.

Louis

And he, quit smoking for I have to say, maybe 15 years yeah. The last part of his life Right, which is a long, but the damage was done later on.

Keny

Right.

Louis

Plus, you know it's going to happen, and but he did quit too. So he wound up, but he didn't die of I don't, he didn't die of cancer, unfortunately it was all heart related stuff, so you know.

Tom

So my paternal grandfather died of cancer.

Louis

Okay.

Tom

When I don't know how old he was. I was little and he was a deadbeat dad. We just found out about that.

Keny

I don't know.

Tom

We found out he died of yeah, so, but my paternal grandmother died of. She had like stomach cancer, but it was probably related for smoking, because she smoked like several packs a day too.

Keny

So then how often did you go get checked? He's gonna have to do it soon.

Louis

I don't know.

Tom

I don't know. I never get checked for a cancer, but I don't know. You know he's a big dude 45, right.

Keny

Yeah, you better go.

Louis

Yeah, he's at 45, I don't think you should fucking me.

Keny

Why not, bro? I don't fucking want to.

Louis

I don't want to, I don't want to. No, you would have. You don't even know you were violent.

Keny

Yeah Well, if you have to get the camera on both ends. That's when you say you know, I hope they don't do the colonoscopy first.

Tom

You know, when you wake up and there's like a little bitter, it's so fast.

Keny

You know what happened. It's so fast.

Tom

It is shit, austin, a bit nutty, I don't know, that's just the last episode.

Keny

I didn't even joke twice. Yeah, it was still funny. Oh my God, dude, that's fucking great, that's bad. I'm trying to be professional when I'm fucking guest-time.

Tom

I'm like tastes like shit. Yeah, fucking asshole. That was awesome. He said it first. He said it first, though, so that's all right?

Keny

No, but like I said, it's just the pains man. The growing older thing is just where the biggest issue is.

Louis

Right, so we have to be now. We have to figure that out.

Keny

How do?

Louis

we take care of this, so we can continue to do what we want to do.

Keny

Well, like we would talk, like well, like we would talk about it. You can't sit still, you gotta keep moving. Right, the problem with the keep moving is that now, when you move a second wave, it's a dichotomy. Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah.

Louis

Yeah, this is yeah, this is the fun of getting older.

Keny

Right, this is what we've heard. Wait, wait, now the funny.

Louis

We've gotten to the weight part. That's the fucking funny, bro, yeah.

Keny

Dude, oh my God, and it's funny because I know a bunch of guys listening to the show. Then I can admit to how much pain they actually in and stuff like that. You know what I mean.

Tom

Nobody can say oh, they're gonna try to keep that.

Louis

No, everybody's got something.

Keny

Right, but again, you know people are gonna be. You know that little machismo for that hot second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, listen, it's okay. Just know, this is the help group right now.

Tom

Yeah, it is.

Keny

Just know, we hurt too.

Tom

Yeah.

Louis

We feel you pain upon a fucking support group.

Keny

Yeah.

Tom

No, but I mean just, you know it's tough, yeah, no, it's not. Even the act of it.

Louis

Going in is just a whole Let me just say one thing for you so what would?

Tom

all kidding aside, you're gonna lay there with your ass up, you know.

Louis

You have no idea. That's not how it happens. No, you are on the side.

Keny

Laying on your side. Okay, but it's so fast.

Louis

They talk to you while they're. You sleep, you sleep yeah, you're out like that, nixon, you know they're waking you up.

Tom

Yeah.

Louis

In the bed in your little area that you're in when you go in? Yeah, you had no like wait a minute.

Tom

You just came and got me and brought me in, and now I'm back over here. Also, the clean out that happens before with the drink and you got to drink that shit you're holding, oh yeah.

Louis

That is the worst part.

Tom

Yeah.

Louis

So you may want to, may actually embrace the other one.

Keny

Enjoy that.

Louis

Yeah, see, yeah, yeah that is the worst part. That is the worst part. And that's the joy of getting over it.

Keny

Yeah, oh, you know, there's your colon cleanse, by the way. Yeah, yeah, that's your colon cleanse, right there.

Louis

You're kidding, bro, people trying to do that or whatever. Wait, I think it's funny.

Keny

No, no, I don't think it's funny at all.

Louis

I mean, I make fun of people doing that shit Do you say have a doctor who actually tells you well, listen, we don't want to do the color guard because the other one does more than the other tests and we need to see those yeah.

Keny

But don't they still get a check for swollen prostate?

Louis

Why would they do it for prostate?

Keny

I said don't they have to check for swollen prostate?

Louis

Well, they would do that. That's an anal, of course, yeah.

Keny

Right, so he's going to lose his wedding ring anyway. Yeah, if you're not lucky, he won't lose.

Louis

Thanks for the visual.

Keny

I'm just saying he's either losing a wedding ring or he's losing his watch. Hopefully he's not wearing their jewelry?

Louis

Yeah, but if he is, you might have been thinking about what you did the last appointment.

Keny

Yeah, he heard you when he went on. The whole fucking doctor. He's wearing a big fucking skeleton ring.

Louis

Yeah, I just think, I think of things differently. I think about, like you said earlier, about dying. I think about that, but I don't think of it in a morbid way or like a freak that way or a way that I'm thinking like, oh my god there's nothing I can do about it. It's going to happen, and when?

Keny

it happens?

Louis

it's supposed to happen. Am I afraid? Of course Everybody's afraid of dying. Because, you don't know what that experience is like, but it's part of life and hopefully we go somewhere else that we don't have to worry about that anymore.

Keny

Well, yeah, like I said, it's just that immediate, right here and now the pain that I'm having and I'm like ah, I said to think about the death, because now I'm like yo, this pain, I want to die right now you know, what I'm saying.

Louis

That's what I mean, Like you know, 20 years is a long time, right, I'm 57. Well.

Keny

I don't know, bro. I mean, I better remember when I was in my 20s, I'd be 77, 20 years from now.

Louis

Right, yeah, I mean.

Keny

I'm 70. That's a long time. Oh yeah, definitely it's no, no, no. It's going to be fun, it's going to be great, you know, because?

Tom

I'd be 62.

Keny

Yeah, yeah, you're going to be carting us around.

Louis

We're going to be doing the podcast, yeah all right, you little bastards, listen up, we're going to do this in the dining room because we don't want to go up and down stairs.

Keny

Oh my God, yeah Tonya stop talking.

Louis

Use the green screen. We'll put out a logo, or no one will ever know that they're from you.

Tom

Exactly, you'll put your teeth back in your mouth. Yeah, yeah.

Keny

Bro, bro, bro. All of a sudden we're talking here Like what the hell is that? My teeth fell out. You know what?

Tom

I can imagine now, by the time we're older and like all the assisted living places got to have like fire sticks, everybody's got to have their own.

Keny

TVs and Wi-Fi. We're on.

Tom

You know the old folks that are in homes now.

Keny

Right.

Tom

Actually, they're starting to get people who you like are regular internet users.

Keny

Absolutely, you have it in there.

Tom

You know what I mean. Like people who are like on social media all the time, like it's going to be crazy, like we're. You know how like people are, like what do you call influencers? Right, there's going to be old people influencers now, absolutely.

Louis

Because we will be those old people, yeah, right.

Tom

Because most of the technology follows you. You know what I'm saying. I'm not going to stick with that. You know what I mean? Yeah, so I wonder what it's going to be like. I think it's going to be sick with it. Yeah.

Louis

It won't be sticking with that and we'll do that. But what shit will we not know about that all the young kids are into.

Tom

That's what's going to blow my mind when I see my grand kid. He's going to be like look what I have to have. Whoa. He's like splits into two or something. It's like a hologram that makes it look like he's two he's like, hey, I did this.

Keny

Yeah, what? Look at you, that's going to. That's fucking hard.

Louis

Yeah, you don't know what the future is going to be like. Hopefully, oh yeah.

Keny

No, definitely Again. That's why I'm making a fucking cyborg.

Louis

And then the other thing about what you said earlier about cancer. I know this is going to sound weird.

Keny

Yeah, but.

Louis

I've already to myself as well said there's a good possibility that that might happen. I don't know, but cancer is so prevalent and it's almost everybody gets it. You know what I mean. For one reason or another I don't want it Get me wrong what I'm saying, but at the same time I think you would, you know, I just Kind of. So you set your mind. You say, hey, listen, you're gonna be getting older, right? Older things change your body's different.

Tom

Yeah.

Louis

I'm strong, as in certain areas, hopefully we we keep up with ourselves the best that we can. Yeah, through it yeah get through the right and then get the hell out of here.

Keny

No for you in Memphis. Yeah, no, I didn't be around for a while. After that, just be fucking with people.

Louis

No, no, I don't want to be bothered. I know when I was alive.

Keny

No, no, I'm gonna be a ghost now.

Tom

Yeah, yeah, we talk about that one episode. Yeah, you want to just linger around.

Keny

Yeah, they get to the pearly gates right, and I can let me in right away. We'll be painting the gates out there. Yeah, you ain't coming in here. Yeah, motherfuckers, better got things, get to painting.

Louis

I was saying me my friend yeah, we're cleaning the fence. You can only look in Tiny wings because you only fly.

Tom

Yeah, you just hover, kind of thing, but the trick is but the thing that's gonna annoy the hell to you is that, if God is all Powerful, knowing he could have just had it cleaned himself.

Louis

You're missing the point. That's what the punishment is.

Tom

This could just be fucking fixed.

Louis

Yeah, that's crazy.

Keny

Yeah, no.

Louis

Well, hey, listen, either we Complain about it and and make a big deal about it and waste time in our life worrying about it it then that doesn't serve us.

Keny

Oh no, I don't think about that. I don't think about that.

Louis

We're gonna do shit you know my parents as they were getting older with their friends, yeah my friends, friends right parents parents and on and on how they grew older and everything and how they were when we got To where we are now, yeah, so I feel good about that, because now we're at that stage now.

Keny

We're at the next level now.

Louis

So you know it's part of the cycle.

Aging and Desire for Cyborg Transformation

Keny

Yeah, definitely, yeah, definitely, yeah. But now and now you understand why it is that you see so many old people driving the supercars.

Tom

I want the poor shit.

Keny

Yeah, now that's the midlife crisis, but you know the Porsches and the Ferraris and yeah, no, I couldn't have it when I was young. No, I'm not wearing a fucking way you're driving with the. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, the co-movers flopping, yeah, yeah.

Louis

Yeah, just my hair. Is you got coming from your eyebrows?

Keny

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, dude. No, the diet that you put in your eyebrows, I was gonna be happy because you're driving the convertible and he's starting to drizzle.

Louis

Oh yeah, it's just coming up Looking like crazy as clown. Yeah, I'm a scarice.

Keny

Yeah, but no, I'm not afraid of getting old, of being old. My only beef is the pain right now shit man.

Louis

Yeah, we're just. Yeah yeah, we're breaking down, bro.

Keny

That's the way to come down right, yeah, like I said, make me a fucking cyborg.

Louis

But we sit that last ever you could put your yeah your consciousness where you put trying to figure it out now, yeah, put someone what's it like? You're, yeah, who is what character?

Tom

into a computer or something like that. Yeah, what character was that in the, the, the Robocop movies? The enemy he just had, like it was just his head and and skeleton like a big giant. Yeah, yeah, robocop. It was a Robocop, but it wasn't the no, no, it wasn't the Robocop himself. It was one of the big machines.

Louis

Yeah, no, it wasn't Robocop, it was in Robocop. Yeah, yeah, yeah oh yeah that one?

Keny

Yeah, yes, it was Robocop, the new one, not the old one.

Tom

Yeah, the second one.

Louis

Remember, cuz he was a junkie too and he always Right, he put it in the thing and he would take it, and then he'd be like yeah, so you see, there you go crazy homo style.

Keny

Yeah, see, that's a sign of oh eight, because I forgot about that shit.

Louis

Yeah, see.

Tom

I forgot which one it was.

Keny

When was that? Sunny? Yeah, yeah, first time, but you said so. There you go. Like you know Robocop, there's a movie oh my goodness, I can't think of anything With. His girl is a cyborg and she doesn't even know that she's a cyborg and she was a whack of war machine and she's playing. It wasn't like an animal the whole thing, but um no, I know what you're talking about.

Keny

Yeah, at the end of the movie she starts, she plays the sport with other, like cyborgs and robots and stuff. You know, like it wasn't Machina, I don't know something else, but yeah, you know, things like that. That's just crazy. Like I said, think about it. If AI is doing what it's doing now, they can make me a cyborg. Yes, let's do it. Let's do it, yeah.

Louis

I think we're gonna miss that. It'll be the generation after us. Yeah be Privileged to that type of that.

Tom

You know it's never gonna. You know it's never gonna happen because it's already reaching over population, like now. You guys are fucking die, you know.

Keny

No, we won't have. We're not gonna be eating because we're gonna change our oil. You know we're gonna be running on solar power.

Tom

Oh space.

Keny

Yeah, well no, because then they're gonna send us to fucking Mars and Prudhoe and everything else with it. Wow, I'm just saying yeah, you guys are old, you guys are going on the fucking spaceship. That's the love. Bye-bye, motherfucker.

Tom

There's another show to upload. Have you seen that?

Keny

Well, I'm going to upload. Yeah, that's it.

Tom

They filled that mohawk.

Keny

I'm right over here, bro. Yeah, so we shit. So they took the consciousness. When you die, they take a consciousness and they put you into a computer. I'm not into a computer. Yeah, almost like a matrix.

Tom

But, they hopefully kind of into a matrix. But the thing is it's like super commercialized. You got right you got to pay to be there, and if you don't have enough points, I put you in this world. We only like a certain amount of seconds and you just freeze yeah, if you're broke, yeah, and then you like upgrades, like if you want to eat certain foods, yeah, have to pay extra for them, yeah, you know like, even though it's totally fabricated, they can just give it to you.

Keny

But yeah, yeah no, no, but the reason like so nobody knows that that's how they're gonna be living in there Until they get in there.

Tom

But the thing about the show is, though, they must upload. They must be able to upload people who already dead in the ground, because why? There's certain people black and white in the show, like there's people who are just like they're so old.

Keny

They're black and white, yeah they're black and white because that's how they wanted. That's what they wanted their consciousness to be. Oh, I got it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can make whatever it is, so you pay. So, like I said, it is download your consciousness before you die, yeah, and then when you die, is almost like you're plugged in and it's in the last few minutes of your shit and Almost like a thank the donor. It's like if you donate in an organ, yeah, it's fucking cool as hell, but again, I want to be a cyborg.

Keny

Okay.

Louis

Listen, if I was a genie, I would make you a cyborg no, no, not yet.

Keny

Give me a few years.

Louis

Oh, too late, you already got this, yeah, no, I don't want to do it right now.

Tom

I don't want to be wondering I still got some years on cyborg.

Keny

Yeah, no, but you know I said getting old is just aging. It's cool because you get to, like we said you know what you said, lou. You know you get to share your knowledge of all the stuff that you've done. You know it's pretty cool, that's groovy when you're teaching your kids stuff. The neighbor, you know a little kid in the store that just said something, just that you know you smile at somebody and they made their day and they paid it forward.

Louis

Whatever the thing that you've done as you've gotten older, that you wouldn't have done when you were a kid, just trying to be the best person you can be.

Keny

Nah, you're trying to be the best person you can be for the most part, not everybody because you know you got them old fuckers out there. Get off my lawn, you bastards. Meanwhile, you know we're across the street. Yeah, no, I don't want to be one of those people. Yeah, no, you know no.

Louis

You know, it is getting older, it's just grow old gracefully. Yeah, we can right, that's what we can do. Yeah, and just it's hilarious Because that's all there is. There is no other option.

Tom

Yeah, that's why I don't understand people. Like the other day I was working, I was working with my other co-worker and there was a guy came in he had like the worst wig on.

Keny

You couldn't see, it wasn't even like a two-pay.

Tom

That shit was like a wig dude.

Louis

Like that shit was like, it just stood out. Yeah, it's like, come on, it's like one of those costumes you put on a dog. You know what I mean. Like you know, you know when you're in a costume and it's funny as shit.

Keny

Don't hide the year old.

Tom

Just age, gracefully, you know what?

Louis

I mean, yeah, some people can't handle it.

Tom

I tried to die. I was last year I was like.

Keny

I died my beard.

Tom

It felt so fucking stupid yeah. Like I felt and I'm like having to keep up with it and I was like fuck this.

Louis

Yeah, you just added something to your routine now. Yeah, because I got.

Tom

I got like gray hairs in my beard in the last few years my entire beard is gray. Like like three or four years ago, I had no barely any gray hairs in my beard, and now it's like I got fucking gray hair, Full gray beard.

Keny

See, it was funny because it was a dude that I knew I don't know if I said this before that this guy that I knew him, like seeing him around or whatever, and he had like a stripe. It was like a gray hair stripe in his beard, in his mustache and then his hair. I thought that he was. You know, when I saw the because he didn't do the hair but he did the mustache and the beard it's like, oh, that's cool. But again, I wasn't so much thinking that he died it like that Years later when I get really up close to him I'm like this motherfucker is dying his shit. So the rest of his hair was jet black beard, mustache top of his head.

Keny

And he just left that gray streak in those. I'm like man you just fucked up the dreams.

Tom

Yeah, yeah, yeah, just like that, yeah.

Keny

So then, you know, I had almost willed and wished it to just be in one spot. So for a little while I only had gray in one part of Mike, the left side of my goatee, and then, yeah, it was just that. Yeah, mind over matter, I was going to be in that one spot and then all of a sudden just said, now I got it all over the place and they go and I keep my hair short enough where you can't see it in my head, but it doesn't bother me.

Tom

You know what I mean, it doesn't bother me either, that's what I'm saying, like just scope gray.

Keny

Yeah, why.

Tom

Why, why why?

Keny

Yeah, well, for guys mostly girl, you know women they're paying the ass and they don't want to die. You know everyone's here with you, yeah, and it looks freaking great.

Tom

And it was younger and like she's just fucking rocking the gray hair she don't want to shit yeah. She's just fucking good on you, you know, yeah, Be confident.

Louis

Yeah, it's funny. My whole beard is gray, but you know what it doesn't even you know what I like it.

Tom

You know, it's like I've had a lot of female friends explain to me like you know, like the way we make up, like like it's not for you know they wear makeup for themselves.

Louis

Yeah, it's not about you, right?

Keny

That's the same thing with dye and their hair.

Tom

So you know it's all about. So I'm not trying to you know shit on women who dye their hair, yeah.

Keny

No, no, no, no, no. I just like I want to see the natural yeah.

Tom

But yeah, but it's not. Yeah, it's not for you, Just like makeup is not for you, you know. So I just want to say that I'm not saying that.

Keny

Oh, no, definitely not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Definitely not. I don't care that you don't like the fucking hair I'm like. I know, I know, I know, I know I'm saying I would just like to see it, just I would. I would like that just for me, you know, and I think a lot of women are beautiful that they don't need to even wear makeup. You know what I mean. Right, right, exactly, like it would just be cool to just see the old, natural one time, you know.

Louis

But it's then not comfortable with that. Oh no, no, no, I get it.

Keny

Like I said, I understand, I get all that, you know, just like it was my wish, like I want to be a cyborg.

Louis

Yeah, time to always complain about oh, I got all these grays on my mic Really. Grace did you look at, we're both being the mirror.

Keny

You see this one.

Louis

Look how many grays I got there, yeah.

Keny

Exactly.

Louis

So I said whatever.

Keny

Yeah, no, my Mrs Haas is sitting over there and she's putting them out in the car and she'll see something sparkle. And she sees that gray off of the mirror because the sunlight will catch your just right. She's sitting there trying to pull it out and like, oh, we're going to die, we're going to die. Stay, still, drive the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm not worried about none of that stuff.

Louis

I didn't realize that I try to picture myself for what I'm gonna look like at that an older, you know as an elderly person and what I'm gonna be like and you can't you know. You just gotta hope that by the time you get there, you know, yeah, you're gonna be in a good place. I think, like everything else you kinda, your body, your whole thing kinda makes, prepares you for it, you know what I mean. You feel it as you go. You know what I mean. Yeah, no, it's weird.

Keny

Well, I tell you this too, and people, even now, I know we wanna probably maybe preach a little bit of the holistic, you know soothing you know?

Louis

No, we don't preach anything.

Keny

I don't wanna say, I mean just say you know people, yeah, but you know just to say you know, yeah, try to holistic, don't try to do so much meds or whatever. Yeah, you know.

Louis

But you know, it's just, yeah, it's just you know it's take care of yourself you know?

Tom

Yeah, that's it. I just you know, I see some people and I'm not judging anybody, but like when you see them take like they have to take like eight, nine, 10 medications at a time it's out of hand now, yeah. It's like, oh man, I'm gonna do whatever I can to do it holistically, but and the medication as a last resort. You know I don't wanna be fucking stuck.

Louis

No, I totally with you on that, but that's the thing you gotta be able to take care of yourself at the same time Right, right.

The Joys of Retirement and Food

Keny

So you don't have to get those things Right. So that's the key right now. So anybody who's listening, who's under 40, you know Now you might have some and hopefully it won't be 10, 11, like you said.

Louis

It would be maybe one or two things. Right, yeah, it's different. Yeah, I mean, because we get older, you know the food and if you get nothing, even better.

Keny

Yeah, oh, yeah, dude listen, that's what it's at. But you know what? That's what they say. No, the healthier you eat.

Tom

You know what I'm saying? The healthier you eat, the less bullshit you eat as a whole. And just because I'm vegan doesn't mean I always eat healthy. I eat junk food too, man. No, just marching on chips, listen, you know, I was just talking to Tyree, you know.

Louis

We were just getting the food upstairs and I was like you know, I see you came up. I'm like Tom Tom doesn't care, he loves food. I mean, it's not like he doesn't like food, he's just a vegan. You always talk about how to cook and what you did, what else you made. You know we made this this one time. Like, you, enjoy making food, eating food. You, it's a passion to you, you like it.

Tom

Yeah, I love food. Yeah, I get it. I was like I made a post on Facebook. They were like it's soup season. I like made my first soup.

Keny

I was so fucking happy because it was cold outside.

Tom

I love baking soups in the Instant Pot. I'm just like, yeah, soups are good, I love soup man, soup chili.

Keny

I love it. You know, I like what I? Yeah, definitely beef stew. Oh man, a nice good party. This guy, I'm just saying dude.

Louis

I'm hungry. What about you, Tom Beef stew? Yeah yeah, we can beef stew, yeah, which I see people do with different.

Tom

You know things. I'm sure, yeah, yeah they use the plant-based meats or they like you know people do stuff with mushrooms and stuff like that.

Louis

Yeah right, Suzanne, she was on the show. But they say there's a lot of things we talk about mushrooms. You did, you guys talked about it on the show. How they taste and how good they are. You would never you know.

Tom

I put mushrooms in that vegetable super make. It's a vegetable soup I make and like it's open, it's giving you this recipe and they're like. And then they're like, add like a half a cup of mixed vegetables of your choice. And I was like, oh, I'm gonna put some mushrooms in there too. I put like those oyster mushrooms. They're fucking awesome. And they're like they have like a meaty texture to it. It's really weird.

Keny

That's cool. So now, is that gonna help me when I get older and I have to go poop in a potty.

Tom

Yeah, I'll get fiber. Now we're going to poop in a potty. That's the one thing. If you're vegan, you have no problem with fiber.

Keny

Yeah, Everything. Yeah, it's all out. Yeah, there's no two bites and you're shitting. You're like a rabbit.

Tom

I have no problems. No problems going poops. That's good, unless I eat, like you know, a lot of white rice or something like that. But you know, well, that's good shit, yeah.

Keny

I'm just saying, that's become hilarious. Yeah, yeah, all day, all day. Yeah, no, I mean I think you know. All jokes aside, I think, because we all know that we're getting older, we just need to take care of ourselves, enjoy life. You know what I'm saying have fun, have fun. Yeah, exactly, you know.

Louis

Yeah, absolutely, because that's the best way to do it, because you're getting visible all your life. Because of that, you're just wasting time. Yeah, because you don't have any Right. Think about it All the people who were before us and before them and on and on and on.

Keny

For everybody before them, man, they only lived to 30.

Tom

And the thing is people have to learn too is that you can't be a couch potato, especially when you're a tire. When you're a tire, especially because then if all you do is sell the couch, the entire time your time's going to be shorter. A lot shorter You've got to get out and do stuff. Yeah, I know that's a hard thing. Retirement, too, is like you just sit and watch TV all day Like what do you?

Louis

do no, I think You're busy, I think you got, I hope not yeah, yeah.

Tom

I'm saying like you know, like because you know, when I come home from work I'm like tired, I'm watching TV and stuff Right, I got it. It's starting a work week. I got the kid, but like I don't think I could do that for retirement, like what do you do?

Louis

You wouldn't though you wouldn't. I got to be honest with you. I got to get a hobby and do stuff. We talk about all the time, Tanya and I, about what we want to do and how we're going to be, and hopefully we're going to be in a good place. Health, you know, wellness-wise, that we can enjoy it, you know, for the last part of our lives.

Keny

Right, you know what I mean.

Louis

Yeah, I mean think about it. Makes some people crazy yeah.

Keny

Because when you have the whole day to hang out, you know to go do anything and everything you wanted to do before my friend is retired, now Got to get a hobby my best friend Frankie Shout out to you.

Louis

My friend, who used to live in Florida from Brooklyn known all my life. He is now retired. He is in Tennessee. He's bought a mountain. I mean, that's how we describe it. I bought a mountain. He's enjoying himself. He says to me this is exactly what he said to me. I said how are you enjoying your retirement? He goes bro, every day is Saturday. Now, yeah, man, hell yeah.

Keny

That's what he said to me. Every day is Saturday, yeah.

Tom

And I totally get what he said to me. I was like I'm with you, bro, I can't wait to get to where I am. The whole part is like I said I would do I would walk all the time. I think that would be my thing.

Keny

Absolutely. You're going to be the guy we see walking around town.

Louis

That's right, you're going to have the black socks on.

Keny

Yeah, you see, bro, then I'm going to run your fucking ass over if I ever see you fucking doing that shit no you're not, bro, then you can't associate with me. So wear a mask. You don't fucking ever walk outside looking like that. This guy You're fucking out of here. You're not going to represent me like that. I'm definitely doing it now. Yeah, tom, you do get Birkenstocks, birkenstocking. I'll kick your ass too.

Tom

You better motherfucking, not bro. We're members only, jacket.

Keny

Oh, my God no.

Louis

Got my little sweatpants on my wrist.

Keny

Dude, listen, I'm telling you right now. You know what I'm saying. I will kick ass, I will commit you guys. I'm calling the ambulance, yeah.

Tom

We'll see. We'll see. Fuck out of here. I don't want people swag.

Keny

Yeah, no man, that's not, you know, like the commercial. Yeah, you become your parents when you buy a house. Yeah, right, no man. I'm telling you right now, you guys better not even. We'll see what happens. No, we're not going to see what happens. You're not going to see it coming, bro, I'm going to knock the shit out of you, oh yeah.

Louis

Fuck that we apologize for the violence.

Keny

No, no, listen, no friends and brothers, family of mine, are going to be wearing, looking like that, yeah no way, I'm absolutely wearing the white re-box or the black socks, bro. Oh, my God, no, and I'll tell you now I'm saying this now, any of my kids, let me look that kind of fucking crazy I'm going to do the show.

Louis

I'm definitely going to come back to watch you Because of my kids I'm going to try this shit nuts yeah, I know Dad, did you really have to wear those? Yeah, no.

Tom

I think it's true what they say the older you get, the less you give a fuck.

Keny

Yeah, well, listen, I'm going to give a fucking to the end. You're going to be like ah, ah, ah, I'm already going to pick you up.

Tom

We're going to be like, ah, ah, ah ah. We're going to be like, ah, ah, ah, ah, Fuck it.

Keny

Listen, I'm picking the clothes I'm getting cremated in. Fuck that shit man. We'll see. Well, with that, that's our time, my people. That was fucking halal.

Tom

Yeah, that was good. That was a fun of it, that was funny. It's good we have a fucking episode.

Keny

Yeah, but people, yeah, take care of yourself, yeah it's going to be like us Enjoy the listen.

Louis

You know where to go to listen for it, yeah like follow message or the good stuff. Instagram, Facebook.

Keny

Yeah, so thank you all for listening. Oh, you know Sprout. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Tom

No, no, no, I started, I started. You know the videos I've been making for.

Louis

Yeah, which you do a phenomenal job at. Yeah, awesome job.

Tom

Thank you, I took a break this week I had to take, but I made some funny videos instead, but I started re-uploading. I'm just re-uploading on YouTube. I just used what our Google account and I started re-uploading some of those videos on YouTube.

Louis

On YouTube shorts. You are the man.

Keny

Holy crap, holy shit, that's shit. So, man, I appreciate you, bro, so find us on YouTube now.

Tom

Yeah, yeah, now on YouTube.

Keny

Hell yeah, yeah, Maggie's working on some other stuff for us, so we didn't forget. Yeah, so she's doing that. I'm just re-uploading the reels that I'm doing as YouTube shorts yeah, no, we're trying to get famous, so then we can do all the shit we want to do when we fucking when we get old?

Tom

Right, we can do it before we get old.

Keny

Yeah, what I'm saying, we can do all that stuff because we're going to be retired, like tomorrow.

Tom

Yes, there we go, so that being said yeah, so everybody.

Keny

thank you for listening once again. Love peace and hair Grease Live long and prosper and go vegan. Hello, Be safe mom.