Prepare to embark on a mesmerising journey into the realm of witchcraft with our awe-inspiring guest, Suzanne, a hereditary witch with unique insights to share. Harnessing centuries-old traditions and experiences, Suzanne brings us closer to understanding the fascinating world of pagan celebrations, energy manipulation, and talismans. You'll be spellbound as we unveil the mysteries of Samhain and its importance in witchcraft, a time when the veil between our world and the spirit world is at its thinnest.
Intrigued by the metaphysical? With Suzanne, we delve into the profound meanings of angel numbers, particularly the angel number 851, and discover the role they play in manifesting our desires. You'll also learn how to harness the power of intention and visualization for effective manifestation! Plus, Suzanne gives us a peek into the significant role animals play in witchcraft: not just as companions or pets, but as spiritual familiars offering comfort and guidance.
Whether you're a seasoned practitioner or a curious novice, this episode will illuminate the powerful connection between witchcraft, nature, and the elements. Suzanne guides us through the complexities of astrology magic and the importance of inclusivity and diversity within the witchcraft community. And for a little fun, listen to a cautionary tale about messing with the power of manifestation, a hilarious story from one of my co-workers. It's time to embrace the mystical, respect the supernatural, and appreciate the earth's boundless beauty on this magical excursion into witchcraft with Suzanne.
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Prepare to embark on a mesmerising journey into the realm of witchcraft with our awe-inspiring guest, Suzanne, a hereditary witch with unique insights to share. Harnessing centuries-old traditions and experiences, Suzanne brings us closer to understanding the fascinating world of pagan celebrations, energy manipulation, and talismans. You'll be spellbound as we unveil the mysteries of Samhain and its importance in witchcraft, a time when the veil between our world and the spirit world is at its thinnest.
Intrigued by the metaphysical? With Suzanne, we delve into the profound meanings of angel numbers, particularly the angel number 851, and discover the role they play in manifesting our desires. You'll also learn how to harness the power of intention and visualization for effective manifestation! Plus, Suzanne gives us a peek into the significant role animals play in witchcraft: not just as companions or pets, but as spiritual familiars offering comfort and guidance.
Whether you're a seasoned practitioner or a curious novice, this episode will illuminate the powerful connection between witchcraft, nature, and the elements. Suzanne guides us through the complexities of astrology magic and the importance of inclusivity and diversity within the witchcraft community. And for a little fun, listen to a cautionary tale about messing with the power of manifestation, a hilarious story from one of my co-workers. It's time to embrace the mystical, respect the supernatural, and appreciate the earth's boundless beauty on this magical excursion into witchcraft with Suzanne.
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Keny:Hey everybody, kenny Cotman.
Tom:Lewis Crawford and I'm Tom Remmage, the Jersey Guy.
Keny:Hello, hello my friends, what's up? My people, how's your doing?
Tom:mate. Hey, what's your doing, mate?
Keny:Not hanging out Ready for Halloween?
Tom:Yeah, yeah, I know what.
Keny:Tom is. Hell yeah you know, man yeah nipples of heart with this.
Louis:I'm telling you, the whole lawn is taken up. There's not even a space of grass.
Tom:So we got my friend Suzanne Bax.
Keny:Suzanne.
Tom:Nice.
Louis:How are you?
Keny:Welcome home. I live in the dream, yes, Everyday. Well, now you are cause you're talking to us.
Louis:That's right, you're on.
Keny:So how you been, how you doing, what's going on, I'm good.
Suzzane:Chilling, getting ready for Sawan, which is for you guys, halloween.
Keny:Right.
Suzzane:It's kind of a big thing in the witchcraft community. For myself personally, it's one of the what we call saw bits. So yeah, just getting ready for that.
Keny:So then can you really quickly? So that's what we're talking about, by the way. Well, that's what we're talking about. Just like people know, we're listening.
Tom:My friend Suzanne's here and she was here a few episodes ago. We talked about veganism, but she is also a witch, so we're going to talk about that. You know, being close to Halloween, or what is it? Sawan, is it called?
Suzzane:Sawan. It's spelled S-A-M-H-A-I-N oh okay, people try to say Samhain and like oh, okay, that's actually how it's pronounced, because I've always said Samhain. Yeah, samhain yeah. Yeah, it's called Sawan, so basically it's a time of the year where the veil is most thin. It's between equinoxes, spring and fall equinox and going into, you know, the fall season or whatever, but it's a shift. It's where the days get dark for much longer and it's a really good time to reconnect it with your ancestors and people who have passed to the other side.
Keny:Oh, that's cool. Yeah, that's not anything close to what I thought it was. Well, then again, I'm lying because we just started with that. So now is it? Well, like nature-based, I guess is what it is, because, like you know, I've heard I waswhat I understood to being witches and they would, like you know, like, go into the woods and meditate kind of thing.
Suzzane:So I didn't. Yeah, so it's a pagan religious celebration that would come at the harvest at the end of the summer, and people would basically go into the woods or clearing obviously mostly just so that they don't like their house on fire, and they would light bonfires and they would wear costume.
Tom:Oh.
Louis:I think we lost her All right. Well, we'll have to wait for it. Oh, there she goes.
Tom:We lost you for likewe lost you, for like a few months.
Louis:Yeah, for the good part. We were experiencing some technical difficulties. Sorry.
Suzzane:Oh, so where would Iwhere would I?
Tom:You said they would go into the woods and they would start big bonfires.
Suzzane:Yeah, so they would go into the woods and they would light bonfires and they would wear costumes to ward off ghosts, so people who were stuck in between worlds, and they didn't want them to possess or cling on to people. So they would wear these costumes to ward them off. And then when the Pope Gregory the number three, got involved, he came in and of course, the church screwed everything up and then it became all Saints' Day, on the 1st of November, and blah, blah, blah. But saw when, as the pagan, and which tradition is a, saw that it's aone of the calendar things that we celebrate as whatever, like festival of lights and whatever for other people.
Keny:Right, okay.
Louis:That's pretty groovy.
Keny:Yeah, that's way different than.
Suzzane:Yeah, most Halloween traditions come from the pagan, of course, right. Well, most holidays in general.
Louis:Yes, mostly Easter Christmas, Just a few more actually, right.
Tom:Yeah, remember, were you telling me, lou, about the reason? The bunnies, the rabbits, yeah, yeah.
Louis:To procreate is really what it was more about than yeah, yeah, that's where the rabbits came from.
Tom:I don't know if that's from pagan or that's a different part of. Easter. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Suzzane:Yeah, most of it is. I mean Christian Christmas and all that stuff really comes from the festival of lights and crumpets and all that kind of stuff.
Tom:Right, yeah, crumpets.
Suzzane:Yeah crumpets.
Keny:Oh my God, that is great.
Louis:You know, I never knew about that, that the chain of subject but the crumpets, until recently Go ahead. When the movie came out, when it was a few years back, I didn't even knew there was such a thing until that happened. And then, of course, I read about it. That's crazy. I didn't mean to cut you off.
Suzzane:No worries. So for myself, I just want to make a disclaimer. I am not wicked. I do not follow any religion. I don't follow a deity per se. I'm not 100% sure that there even is a quote. God end quote. I would lean more towards agnostic atheist. However, I'm a hereditary witch, which means my mother is a witch, I'm a witch, my daughter is a witch, my niece is a witch. Over the years, though, my mother has denied being a witch, and now she says it's alchemy. But witchcraft is witchcraft. I don't care what you call it, and all religions do it. I mean the Catholic religion, with their incense and their holy water and the dunking and that's all witchcraft.
Louis:It is, if you think about it. And the host and all that.
Suzzane:So for myself, my mother practiced witchcraft when I was young. She worked a lot with herbs and different I guess she would classify as a kitchen witch. She would make different remedies for illnesses and whatnot from herbs and different tinctures and that kind of stuff. She taught me about manifestation and basically it's manipulation of energy, because from a scientific level, we all know that their energy never dies, right, it only changes forms. So there would be, it would make sense that you can manipulate energy or you know kind of change it and do some manifestation and rather, you believe in a deity or not. I've still been able to, collectively with my daughter or just by myself, or you know, our covenant is basically a small covenant of three. It's just me, my daughter and my niece.
Suzzane:I don't claim witchcraft as an aesthetic, which is why I stopped posting on my Instagram about it, because it's become a cute aesthetic for a lot of people and that's fine, like listen, that's, that's cute and nice and whatever. But it's not an aesthetic for me. It's. It's an actual lifestyle, similar to the whole veganism thing. It's something I hold very near and dear to me and I take very seriously. So I just have stopped posting about it because it's become all the rage to. You know, do witchcraft and become a witch and whatever. And people get a little weird about it and a little crazy and they, they want to pigeonhole you into specific categories and I don't fit into any categories category.
Suzzane:I guess, if anything, I would be an eclectic witch. But I take from lots of different witchcraft backgrounds. You know a little bit of voodoo, a little bit of this, a little bit of that. You know, and I kind of do my own thing. Some of my best and most powerful manifestations have not been something that came from a grimoire or from a specific teaching. Sorry, it's just been things I kind of put together myself. What's a grimoire? You're going to ask me Right.
Suzzane:Okay, so grimoire is a book of teachings. Traditionally there's the mother, the maiden and the crone. Actually would go made in mother and crone. So Hikate is one of the deities that a lot of witches work with. She's the goddess and she's representative of the maiden, the mother and the crone, which are the three sages of womanhood, or the divine, you know, the divine feminine that women go through being a maiden, being a mother and then being a crone. She's all three of them in one and a lot of people will work with her. I just got sidetracked with the heck I was talking about. That's okay. I have a question for you real quick.
Louis:In regards to what you were saying earlier about being the spiritual part, right. So, don't you think that there is some type of a connection to a spiritual entity? In some sense we are more connected to the universe rather than a deity, like you said, or a god or anything, but more like we're all connected in a sense.
Suzzane:I do. I think that collective consciousness is God. I think that you know. This is why when people in traditional religious congregation, whatever pray together, it can be very powerful. It's just collective consciousness. It's a collection of people. You know kind of manifesting and praying for the same thing. You know Christians call it praying, I call it spells. You know it's really the same thing it's. You know visualizing speaking, and you know kind of manifesting energy, manipulating it into something that you're trying to achieve.
Louis:Right? Has it mostly been positive for you though?
Suzzane:Oh, it's 100% positive. So let me just say this also I don't do dark magic. I don't mess with people's free will. I do not do love spells. Love spells do not work out.
Suzzane:I know somebody very near and dear to me and I may have touched base with this a little bit before my mother, who's now 83 years old, manifested a 30 year old husband and everything was hunky door in the beginning. It ain't so hunky door now. So here's the basic rule that I live by, the rule of three, and that is this Every single manipulation of energy manifestation, every binding banishing, hex, positive magic, candle magic, ladder magic, sigil magic, whatever it is, you had better be prepared for that to come back times three if it's not serving your highest self and in alignment with the universe. So basically, if you try and do manipulative magic, it's going to come back on you times three.
Louis:Right, and it could disrupt your life in a different way, other than what you wanted it to do in the first place.
Suzzane:Well, yeah, right.
Keny:My question is does it always come back negative Like is it that kind of bad?
Suzzane:For instance, if you're trying to do a love spell and you're trying to force somebody, against their own will, to be with you, it may work. They may become attached to you, but they may become so codependent that they become stalkers. Right.
Suzzane:Like you know just it. Energy is a funny thing and you can manipulate it and you can, you know, change it and do these things. But you just have to be prepared if your attention isn't pure, because all magic, whether it's candle magic or whatever it is, it's all about the intention. You know the tools that you consecrate and the methods and the rituals and the spell work and the craft that you do is all just physical. You know tools to to manifest your intention. So if your intention is messed up, your magic is going to be messed up as well.
Louis:And I understood it too, that from other people who've grown up with certain types of things like voodoo or things like that, kenny, yeah, my grandmother Santaria. He's been around now for a while that if you don't, if you do something and it's positive for you or whatever it is you want it to happen, something could affect somebody else in your life negatively, depending on what it is that you actually did or wanted to do.
Suzzane:I mean, that's kind of a rebut, that's kind of a rebut, you so kind of a thing, right. But I really think that's only in my, in my experience. That really only is an issue if you're doing dark magic or black magic.
Louis:Right, okay.
Suzzane:Or negative magic. I don't really believe there's black magic or dark magic per se. Now, obviously in Santaria there are, you know, there are animal sacrifices and they're right. They definitely can get into some very dark ass shit.
Keny:Right, right, right With that said, like you said to, though, it's the lights and the dark, you know you don't mess with it. Like my aunt, she didn't do the dark. My grandmother, my grandmother, like he was saying for your, you said things, your mom, that it was, she was a healer. I guess you know she would, yes, make the.
Suzzane:Well, in in in history, I would say 99.9% of witches have been healers. They were midwives, they were you know, they were women who worked with herbs. They were in the Native American culture. They were shaman. You know they were. They were always healers.
Louis:It's almost like so they were the doctor of their time.
Suzzane:So really Correct.
Tom:Paganism or witchcraft or whatever is pretty much in all cultures, if you think about it.
Suzzane:Oh, 100%, it's in every single.
Tom:My year and it's.
Suzzane:It's been demonized by the patriarchy and the church in every culture as well.
Louis:And it's funny too, because speaking you know it's a Catholic church with their you know, and all that stuff.
Tom:Then it's funny because my grandmother was into some kind of stuff. My mom swears that she could like make herself levitate or something like that. I don't know, you know verbatim or something like that. I know something and my brother mentioned something like a. It's called a straga or something, I don't know. I think that's like the Italian witchcraft name or something. The horns they give you the horns yeah, that's just an Italian thing, the horns thing.
Suzzane:That's what you call a talisman.
Keny:Okay.
Suzzane:So a lot of us have talisman. For me A talisman, it's like a charm. You know, back in the day they would use like rabbit's foot and different like you know for Christians, it's their cross. For me. It's the pentagram I'm. You rarely ever, will ever see me without a pentagram on. It's my protection, it's my talisman. It's you know what I always keep me to protect myself, and the horn, I think, of the Italian, was a similar kind of a thing.
Louis:They always have the red horn hanging in the car, remember, yeah, yeah.
Keny:So now, what is the one thing, I guess, that really keeps you with this like to be a witch?
Suzzane:So again, I grew up around it and then you know, in my early teens I did it and then people who don't understand it will ridicule you and make fun of you and stuff and they'll fear you because they fear things they don't understand.
Suzzane:You know evil, in my opinion, is nothing more than lack of knowledge. It's stuff you know. If you turn evil the other way around, it literally spells fear, fear, f-e-a-r. So it's just really not understanding. You know what's going on or what you're doing or whatever. So I had stopped for a while. And then you know, raising kids. You just get busy raising kids and stuff.
Suzzane:And then I got back into it pretty heavily back in maybe 2017, 2018, when my daughter, alicia, came back from college and came to live with me and she started asking me questions about you know, what was grandma doing when we were doing this and what were you doing and what was this about. And she started asking me questions about it. And I would explain to her. Well, you know that day that we were mixing those herbs and whatever. We were, you know, trying to help somebody who had come down with like a rash kind of a thing or whatever, and I just it was explained in the tour and we started talking about it and stuff. And then she started popping off with a bunch of, like you know, rituals and spells and stuff that she shouldn't have known, like she didn't study it, she didn't know, but she just knew it inherently so. I was like damn this bitch, a witch too Like this is a family thing.
Louis:You know what I mean. Yeah, that's pretty cool, though.
Suzzane:So then we started out slowly. We started like doing new moon magic, full moon magic. A lot of witches work extensively with the power of the moon. The moon is, you know, extremely magnetic and powerful and it's really great for manifestation. In full moon you would do releasing things like simple spells, like writing down things that no longer serve you and write it as if it's gone.
Suzzane:Like with magic, it's all about intention. If you're questioning or if you're like, ooh, I think I'd like to admit that you don't really know Like if you're second guessing yourself, it's not gonna happen. You have to believe that it already is what you're trying to manifest. So if you're trying to get negativity out of your life or a negative person, or for myself, when I quit drinking you know now a disclaimer I was not an alcoholic, I just was definitely alcohol dependent. But after my brother died, I was like this isn't serving me too well, but I still had, you know, a certain amount of dependency physical on it. Like you know, it was a habit, it was habitual. So I released that at a full moon ritual where I wrote it down and on a petition paper and I burnt it and took it to the four corners of the street and put it back. You know, the ashes through the mountain to the universe, to to transmo into something positive or whatever. Quit drinking.
Suzzane:I mean, just like that, you know, not a big deal for me. So we started doing that kind of stuff releasing negative things at full moon, manifesting positive things at new moon. New moon is when the moon becomes new. It's dark and you know, and then it starts to get bigger and bigger and bigger and brighter, and so, new moon, you would manifest positive things like I am so healthy and fit and I'm enjoying my healthy lifestyle. You'd write stuff like this down and manifest it through those writings and petitions or whatever. Sometimes you use candle magic, where you consecrate a candle with some oil or some herbs or you know whatever you're trying to do, and burn it and as it's burning, it releases that energy of your intention into the universe. It's all about changing energy and the tools that you use to fire the water. These kinds of things are really just meant to symbolize the energy being transmuted.
Tom:Okay, got, you Makes sense.
Keny:Yeah.
Tom:That makes perfect sense. Well, because.
Keny:I mean, I mean there's no sounds. It's kind of it's hard to say, like I don't want to say anything that's going to be offensive. So that's why I'm like picking.
Suzzane:Have you met me? Well, I know you, but you know, you got listening, I don't get offended, and if I do get offended, I'll just say it.
Keny:All right. So like now I see, I hear the movie Avatar and that's how I kind of believed, felt that the universe works. You know what I mean. And now you're saying that, being a witch, this is how everybody's connected. You know what I'm saying. I know it sounds crazy, but it's one of those things that that's how I kind of you know I can explain things, that's, you know, decipher them to other people or whatever. So I apologize, I'm a little bit mean, but you know, like that's how I just see it all. And if this is like what witchcraft is, then why was it like didn't anybody try to explain this back, when you know witches were being sacrificed Kind of thing Does that make?
Tom:sense, I think they don't want to. Yeah, they didn't want to. Yeah, evil, evil, evil. Yeah, that's all they could. Yeah, it's the devil.
Louis:Because, it was the history of the history of the demonized it because the colonists had their own religion.
Suzzane:That's what they came here to America for.
Suzzane:Mama said America because they were trying to do their own religion. And so when you had witches specifically, there were a lot of African American people that were brought over, enslaved, who were witches and had their own magic from their own culture or whatever, and when the people would see this, they would call them demons and call them devils and they would demonize it, because it's kind of the same thing that happens with big pharma now, where you know, psilocybin is demonized because it's actually medicinal which can't make money on it. Well, witchcraft was demonized because the doctors who were traditional medicine, they, these witches were healing stuff and the midwives were delivering babies and they were doing all of these things that the doctors wanted to do and they were doing it better.
Suzzane:So, they demonized it. You know it all goes back to the patriarchy, it goes back to fear mongering. Religion in general, in my opinion, has been used exclusively to control people.
Louis:Absolutely.
Suzzane:And the war that we have going now, you know, with the whole thing that's going on over in Israel and Gaza. It's all about my God is better than your God.
Louis:And that's what happens. And they don't even realize that if there is a God, it's all the same God.
Suzzane:So I mean, yeah, it's all the same God and God, if he really is he, she, they, them, do exist. They certainly don't want you killing in their name.
Louis:Right, right.
Suzzane:Like it makes no sense whatsoever.
Suzzane:But that's what religion is about. That's why, for me, religion has been so negative and so whatever. That's why I reject any, even Wicca, and Wicca is pretty chill. It's about Wicca is more of a religion of, you know, respecting the trees and the elements and the universe and, you know, being one with nature and you know, and I'm saying that even that got a little astringent. You know, I know some Wiccans that are like, oh, you can't do this magic and you can't do that magic and you have to do this way and that way and whatever. And again, some of my best manifestations, my best spell work, have been done without traditional whatever and just kind of winging it, but also like there's a certain natural element, like, for myself, I'm something called cleric cognizant. You guys know what that is? No, I don't. I don't.
Suzzane:So it's a psychic ability. That means I just kind of know things without really a clear explanation.
Keny:Okay.
Suzzane:Like I'm so in tune with my surroundings, I'm very empathic and sometimes I'll just know stuff and I don't really know why I know it and it's true. Kind of has been a. It's been a bit of a problem sometimes, because I'll be like oh well, remember, you know this happened and blah, blah, blah, and the person will be like whoa, I didn't tell you that, how'd you know that?
Suzzane:And I'm like, oh, I don't know, trust me, I really don't know, Trust me, it's happened on numerous occasions with Suzanne.
Tom:I'm like how the fuck do you know about that?
Suzzane:Yeah, yeah, people get a little weirded out and my daughter has been like that conversation. She gets really mad. That conversation never happened, mom. That's not what they said, but it's just. That's how I get downloads.
Tom:Lisa Tarnzia, you know Our friend Lisa.
Suzzane:Yes, she's one of what we call the knowing she, that witch, knows a lot of stuff that she should definitely not know either, Like there's no way she could know it and she'll just all of a sudden just blurt out a bunch of stuff, you know, that just completely blows my mind and I'm not often surprised, so. But yeah, so that's clairvoyance. There's clair cognit. You know there's a lot of different kinds.
Louis:What about if someone and this is what happens to me a lot I'll say I'll talk about somebody, you know I mean connection, that's just connection and then all of a sudden, that's just a connection. Oh yeah, and it's a connection.
Suzzane:Yeah, that happens to everyone.
Suzzane:It's just about everybody has the ability to you know to do these kinds of things, these simple little spell work. That's basically a spell. You put a spell on them, you cast it a spell and spell. The reason it's called spell is because you know it's just words being used and Spell lean in general in school is is still kind of derived from the whole spell work thing. But what happens is when you, when you are connected energetically to a person and you think about them, you basically send them a, you're basically emailing them in their brain.
Louis:That's pretty cool.
Suzzane:It's like a soul connection exactly.
Tom:That's a really good analogy.
Suzzane:I like that is, though, yeah especially if you have a soul contract with somebody, like a parent or a child, or you know a loved one or whatever, and you think about them. You're definitely send them a soul connection email.
Louis:Okay, what about if you see a number Consistently?
Suzzane:so here's the thing there's a lot of 11, 11's and my birthday, by the way, is 11 11.
Louis:I'm just yeah, but that out there for that happen to be at the race I got my way.
Tom:It was recently her birthday. So or no not yet Wow, wow, sorry, they will be yes, okay.
Suzzane:But so 11 is a very high vibration, high, you know, it's a very spiritual number. All numerology, you know you reduce everything to its lowest form. So 11 actually reduces to two, which is like the master number and it's supposed to be like the most Magical number and whatnot. But people who see 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4. Yes, it could be angel numbers, it could be those kind of things, but here's what I'm gonna tell you. It doesn't have to be anything so Dramatic.
Suzzane:Our, our ancestors, our relatives, my brothers who have passed, contact me on a regular basis, and sometimes, yes, my brother Paul, will play with the lights, he'll fuck with the lights, will turn them on and off, to the point where we're like, okay, what's up? Like what? You know something you want to say, like what's going on, or whatever, almost to an appointment of an annoyance. You know they like to play games with. You know, turning the coffee pots on and off in our house and do different kinds of things like that. But sometimes it's subtle, you know, sometimes you'll hear a, you know a thought in your brain when it'll just kind of pop into your brain and you'll be like, well, no, that's not true, that's, and you start doubting it immediately. Don't doubt it. If all of a sudden, some thought pops into your brain about somebody who's past Bet your ass, it's them telling you that. Mm-hmm, oh, okay.
Suzzane:It is definitely them, you know, connecting it doesn't? It's not like in the movies, where a table moves, and not always. Sometimes they're grandiose gestures, but most of time they're subtle little little things. You know what I'm saying right, I can see you. I keep seeing it about 851 851.
Louis:That's done. Probably we see.
Suzzane:So that may have some significance. It does. I looked at you.
Louis:I looked it up, it was used to be the three digits of my phone number when I lived in Brooklyn. Okay, all right, so 851 9267, that was my number. But in the last year or so I've been seeing that number Consistently on, whether it's a license plate or on a clock or on my phone or something. Mm-hmm you know, and it's not like just Two weeks went by, it's like you know mm-hmm. So then I looked it up, it was an angel number. It meant that, whatever my direction, I was going in mm-hmm.
Louis:Whatever I was thinking of doing or wanted to do was the right thing to just go with whatever it was, whatever you were thinking, and stay in that direction. You're on the right path, kind of thing. Right is what I got out of it. Does that make any sense at all?
Suzzane:Yeah, yeah, it's confirmation. It's the universe giving you confirmation that you're on the right path to awesome. Doing whatever it is, it is going to serve your highest self.
Louis:Right, there you go. That's cool right.
Keny:Very cool, yeah, I mean, like I said, this is like enlightening, so go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Suzzane:Do you guys have questions about specific types of magic? Do you want me to talk about?
Louis:like well, actually yeah a little bit a little bit about a book actually. I went to spirit Halloween today, and they had a spellbook and I brought it just Because I wanted to see what was in it and just, and they had stuff like and of course I'm not trying to mock anything or anything like that I was really got it just so I had if I needed to reference something or ask a question, so I didn't want to Well.
Keny:So now, well, my question so Is there one that you personally kind of magic, I'm sorry, is there one kind of magic that you personally feel more tuned with? Is there any such thing? Is not being in tune with a particular magic, like not just you know, yeah, I mean every, every, which is different.
Suzzane:I don't. I don't do much sigil magic. You know, up until taking psilocybin recently, I was Dyslexic and had dysgraphia my entire life. So sigil magic is a situation where you'll write down a specific phrase like, say, you want to manifest winning the lottery. You write down the words winning the lottery and then you first take out all the vowels and then you take out all the repeating letters and then you write those letters kind of over each other, like W Obviously.
Suzzane:I would be gone and you don't use one and D. You write these things on top of each other in like a shape or a pattern.
Suzzane:Okay that's called a sigil. So then you would. Then, depending on what you're trying to do, you would either burn that, put it into the universe to transmute and become, you know, whatever it is your intention was, or Back in the day, like way back, which is used to sew sigils into Children's clothing as protection, that kind of stuff. I'm I don't do a lot of that, you know. I know my niece gets highly involved with the sigil magic. She's she's good at that. A lot of people like candle magic. You know any, anything that you're using the elements like candle, obviously it has fire, so fire is extremely powerful. You know. Often you'll use herbs, that's earth. You know air for the flame, so you know, and then water you usually have close by. That's using all four elements.
Suzzane:When I'm going to movie when I'm going to do an actual Spell or ritual, because I've gotten to the point when Alicia and I have discussed recently that we don't have to do some grandiose ritual or spell anymore, because we're kind of powerful enough in Our craft at this point that we just kind of can manifest More or less just by putting the intention out there. Because, again, they are the all these things are just tools. You know what I'm saying, right? So I haven't done the big grandiose. We used to do the whole thing where we would take all our crystals that we have in the house and we would Put them into the moon to be charged. It's a lot of work and when it becomes a situation where your, your craft or your, your magic becomes Chore, then you don't enjoy it anymore and then that's it's.
Suzzane:It's defeating the whole purpose, you know, if it's not enjoyable, if it's not, you know, like the witches dancing in the in the moon naked, that shit was all for enjoyment. That wasn't like really necessarily. Yeah, long party who doesn't want to see a bunch of hot witches dancing the naked? Yeah it's a point where it you know you don't have to use those things as much. You know the candle magic and then this and that and the other thing. I mean I told you my mom killed my dad with just a phrase. Yeah.
Suzzane:Who's my mother, who is not a witch now?
Tom:allegedly yeah allegedly exactly.
Suzzane:She's an alchemist, so so my dad was a piece of shit. He was a child metal lister, rapist, like horrible, horrible, terrible low vibration person. Okay, they obviously have been divorced for a really long period of time. They got divorced when I was three years old.
Suzzane:Okay but recently my mother was here in August and my mother the alchemist Says to me on a Sunday she comes to me and she looks me right in my eyeballs and my mom gets this squinny ass little look when she's you know, really trying to send something home. She squints at me and she goes Susie, why isn't your dad dead? He should be dead by now. All that drinking and smoking he did, he should be dead. Why isn't he dead? She says this to me. I'm like I don't know, mommy.
Suzzane:I really don't think anything about it. Right, right Yo, that motherfucker died at 220 that night.
Tom:Well, no ah that's insane, yeah, but she told me that, did you told me that? When we're on their way to them, I was like oh, yeah, yeah.
Suzzane:So, the next morning 11 o'clock. I'm driving to work. I work the late shift on Monday, right? I'm driving to work and all of a sudden my niece is like have you talked to your brother Lonnie? And I was like no, why would I talk to Lonnie? I haven't talked to Lonnie three times in my life, like why would it? And I was like why is my dad dead? She's like yeah, he passed it to 20 last night. Wow, my niece is the one who's also a witch. And I was like my mom done killed my fucking dad. She manifested that shit with nothing but a phrase.
Keny:Okay, that's insane.
Suzzane:I mean, did she really?
Louis:I don't know but yeah, right exactly.
Suzzane:She put that shit out there. Was it ill intended? No, mm-hmm but still she put the intention out there. So Again, just to you know, kind of bring it back into the whole, it being very popular and it's, it's an aesthetic now and you know it's cute and whatever and that's all great and stuff. But like real witches are our healers, they're independent women there.
Suzzane:They're so much more than just like what you think of right you know, just working with a bunch of herbs and ladder magic and binding and banishing and and jars Do? I have a lot of mason jars around my house? I have a lot of mason jars around my house.
Tom:Which thing you know?
Suzzane:in terms of hexing or negative magic. In reality, there is only one person in all of my years that I have ever put in a jar and that person 100% deserves to be in an art and I was 100% ready-willing, and whatever, to have it come back times three. Right, so this person has done harm so bad to me and my children that it wasn't a vendetta spell. It's not an event.
Tom:Protection right.
Suzzane:It was a protection spell and it was keep them away from me energetically, keep them away from my children. This person has done a lot of harm over the years. This person has been out of my life for more than 15 years.
Louis:That's good.
Suzzane:Yeah, this person tried to insert themselves back into our lives, so I did do a witch jar, which for me consisted of her picture, vinegar some rusty nails some cat poop and some other things, along with words and chance and whatever, and I did hex her and I buried that shit in the backyard of my old house. Now here's the thing with magic you don't then call and say, hey, how's your life going?
Keny:Like you know it works.
Suzzane:You just know it works, you don't check up on it. If you check up on it, it's not going to work.
Louis:Just let it be, you put it out there and move on.
Tom:It's done. It's like turn on the switch. That's it.
Suzzane:To take care of it. Are you guys still hearing?
Louis:me yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like kind of like your 401K. You just put it in there and you don't even think about it and you let it grow.
Tom:And you let it do its thing Exactly. That's a good analogy.
Keny:You got to put in your 401K.
Louis:You know what I'm saying.
Suzzane:Yeah, it's true, though you know it's going to grow, you know it's going to do what it has to do, and you leave it the heck alone.
Suzzane:There was another time where a person had said to me some very after. A very close person to me had said to me some very challenging words, and this was before I took psilocybin, I was still a bit in my ego and he basically said to me oh, you and Alicia, y'all cute with that aesthetic, you cute with that witch stuff. And I was like, oh yeah, motherfucker, you think it's cute? So I did what's called a humility, humility spell, just to teach him a little bit of humility, to get him a little bit off of his high horse and to make him not be so full of himself or whatever. And maybe three months after that happened he called me up and he was like I'm really sorry and blah, blah, blah. And then he told me all these things that had happened and whatever, and nothing was really really bad.
Suzzane:But I just thought to myself wow, that was a little intense, Like I, and so I was like, hmm, so that kind of taught me to be really careful because I wasn't trying to hurt him or be revengeful or you know, be vengeful or none of that kind of stuff, but I was like man, that shit was quick.
Louis:Right, and I guess that's what you need to be mindful of when you're doing that, because you got to be 100%. You don't want to do something that's going to come back.
Keny:Yeah, by accident Right.
Suzzane:You have to be prepared if it is not universally in alignment with your highest self.
Suzzane:Like, if it's not your, if it's not in best intention for your highest self, then it will come back. You know, when we go to do ritual, the first thing that we do is this is sort of like in the movies. This is my own journey. I don't know how other witches do, but I do call on the watchtowers of North, south, east and West. I call on ancestors and my, my brothers and people who have passed, and I make sure that when I'm casting a circle, when you cast this circle, you cast it in something called Wittershins, which is basically which talk for counterclockwise.
Suzzane:So, you cast a circle of protection around your workspace and you go in the circle three times and you basically say I'm casting a circle of protection, nothing but love, light and the eternal purple flame are welcome into this and you so mode it be. At least it doesn't use so much to be. She goes and so it is. Whatever you do that and then that workspace, if you're doing a serious ritual or serious spell, you really don't break the circle. If you have to break it for some reason, usually we will energetically cut a doorway out of the circle, go out, get whatever the heck we need to come back in, but I don't like to break circle. Like I'm superstitious with that shit. I don't like circle to be broke, but definitely you're letting the universe know that. No low vibration, no negative ghost souls, whatever, because there are definitely people who are stuck. Like.
Suzzane:I have a neighbor who has black shadow people running from their house on a regular basis. I don't know why shadow people are running away from someone's house. That makes me concerned about what's going on in that house. But these kind of shadows and these kind of entities that kind of are around us and stuck. I don't know if it's just stuck energy or if it's actually ghost or I don't know what the heck these people are, but they are everywhere all the time. I think that Tom recently has seen some of these people Really.
Louis:Yeah.
Suzzane:And you want to make sure that those people don't interfere with your magic, so you have to keep them out?
Tom:Yeah, exactly, and it's interesting too. I know there's two different types of go if it is ghost, and there's the ones that are just on repeat on a loop, and then there's ones that are present.
Suzzane:They're stuck.
Tom:They're just like yeah, it's just like a, like a tape playing.
Keny:We call it residual. We call it residual.
Tom:Yeah, like a tape or something like that. Yeah.
Suzzane:I mean, I think you've probably seen in movies where like you get stuck and like the major kind of gets it's glitch in the matrix where things to repeat, or whatever deja vu.
Suzzane:You know, I think it's me it is like deja vu. Yeah, kind of Well. But some people like, when I first moved into my last apartment you know I was living there and I was, I was I like to walk around naked after a lotion. I used to wear this tan lotion, this self tan or stuff, and so I walked around naked for like an hour. Your face is just perked up when you said that. Sorry, I was like I did it. It's still alive.
Tom:Lou and Kenny were like oh sorry, I'm sorry, I was like right, but.
Suzzane:I would walk around naked to let my lotion dry and after about maybe three weeks of living there, I kept getting this feeling again. I'm, you know, clark Ognis, like I just know things. I don't know why, but I knew somebody was watching me and was basically like the feeling that I was getting and the you know the words that were coming to me were put your clothes on, what are you doing? Why are you like, very shameful, like, why are you walking around naked, like a, like a, you know, like I was a small child, or like I was doing something sexually that I shouldn't be doing, or whatever, why are they negative?
Suzzane:And I finally, finally, said to this entity I was like fuck, it's my house, what? Is your problem, you know what I mean, like, if you don't like it, you can get the fuck out.
Tom:Yeah, you know, I'm here, motherfucker.
Suzzane:In my mind's eye I saw a heavy set black gentleman with a red and black striped sort of like flannel shirt on and I remember thinking, well, that's freaking weird, because we're not in Colorado. Like why would a black man in held in New Jersey, which is, like you know, block from Patterson, be wearing this kind of like he ha looking ass shirt or whatever? But I basically told this person you're not welcome, this is my house. And then I called my mom, who's not a witch and I said mommy there's.
Suzzane:There's um, somebody in this apartment and he's getting becoming disruptive, he's making me uncomfortable, um, like, like, I'm not afraid of him, but he's just fucking annoying because he's like at this fatherly weird kind of whatever. And she goes you know, salt the perimeter or whatever. So you know I banished him with salt or whatever. So then, maybe a month or two later, I was on the porch talking to the neighbor on the first floor and I was like talking, we're just talking, you know whatever. And I shared this with her and she goes oh my God, that's Booker, that's my husband. He died here. He had a massive heart attack.
Tom:Wow, so it was him. Was he wearing a black flannel shirt that day? He was, he was basically a hillbilly.
Suzzane:That was a black guy. She said he wore overalls all the time and stuff. So yeah, this is where he. This is his work clothes. This is the way he got out.
Louis:Wow, that's pretty cool. So I real quick, cause I know we're. You said we only got a few minutes left. Yeah, so well. My dog, bella died about two years ago. The first few days when we were home, I would go in the room one of the other bedrooms and the door would open up the way she would open it up every time. She would push the door open and there was nothing behind the door. In other words.
Louis:there was nobody out there, there was no breeze, nothing in the house. And I'm like I got the chills when it happened. So for me that was a big deal, cause you know like, all right, she's she's telling me everything's all right.
Suzzane:Yes, absolutely it was yeah, yes, yeah. My cat Michu, who died not this July but the year before. I still see him like not literally, but see him walking around the house and for probably the first three, four months after he died my other cat shouldn't would look for him, wow, and he would stare up at the stairway like he was looking at my cat. You know what I mean. I'd be like oh shit you see him, don't you?
Louis:My dogs have done that too, before they have to be like. What the hell are they looking at?
Suzzane:Yeah, animals are definitely very you know whatever. I remember one time that he was like in a really dark, depressive, funky kind of a mood and she was just not doing well with her mental health and you know whatever. So I came home and the cat was looking at her and kind of like looking at her like scared and shit, and she was kind of out of it, like her eyes were kind of glazed over and shit. I don't know what the hell was going on, but I immediately started cleaning the house, saging the house, you know. Right.
Suzzane:And letting whatever the hell was there know that it was not welcome and stuff you need to go.
Suzzane:But the animal was my familiar. By the way, most witches have a familiar. A familiar is an animal that we work with and when we're doing ritual or when we're doing any sort of spells, the cats come right to the table or they come they want to be part of it. They know what's going on. So, yeah, animals are very you know, down with that kind of stuff and they definitely will give you signs and let you know that they're around you still energetically.
Louis:That's cool. One more thing I got another question real quick. Hold on. What about astro magic? What is that?
Suzzane:I have no idea what you're even saying.
Louis:And this is in the book that I bought, so that book.
Tom:Is that book?
Louis:is this is bullshit.
Suzzane:Yeah, yeah, now I have to tell you something. There's this daily journal of magic spells. That was like some Barnes and Noble thing.
Louis:That I think, of one time.
Suzzane:I have to tell you some of the stuff that's in there was some really good magic.
Louis:Oh, there you go.
Suzzane:So you never know, yeah, you never, know, Because there's a money, am I?
Tom:just there's a money one in here, there's so many, you know, but again there's so many as Susanne stated in the beginning. There's so many different types of magic.
Suzzane:Right, that's true. That's true. She might not be familiar with it. Simple magic like money spells every day on the, or every month on the first of the month. I blow cinnamon. Let's go, welfare. I blow cinnamon out of my door. Cinnamon attracts money, so there's simple little things. I mean, it's so and this is why I'm saying there's no wrong way to live. And there are people who will tell you you got to do this, you got to do that, Whatever bullshit.
Louis:That's how you can tap. Whatever you use to tap into it. Some people would ever work Exactly.
Tom:Methodical kind of like religion. You know they're being methodical about it. Like you got to do it this way.
Suzzane:You can't do it any other way? Yeah, but they get a little bit astringent, right?
Tom:yeah, exactly, that's not what witchcraft is about Exactly yeah.
Louis:Like it gets monotonous and then it just gets to the point where you're like, yeah, Exactly it becomes about the ego.
Suzzane:You can't let it be about the ego. There are male witches, there are female witches. There are they, them witches, obviously non-binary. There's witches of all kinds. You know what I mean. Yeah. And there is, like I said, no wrong way to witch and some people like Alicia, you know she tends to call it just more, you know, spirituality and what kind of that kind of stuff, Whereas I own M and definitely claim the title witch and I stand in my witchhood because that's just part of who I am. You know what I'm saying.
Louis:That's awesome Well.
Keny:I'm glad we know that. Yeah, that's a positive note. Thank you very much.
Suzzane:I can tell you one story real fast One of my co-workers who I don't like very much. You guys know how I feel about being in the house.
Keny:You guys know how you feel about being in the house, right, yeah, yeah yeah.
Suzzane:So one day he's over standing over me. Everyone knows not to eat animal products around me. I never go in the kitchen and I leave that space for them. I never go in there, but I have my desk. That's where I eat my lunch every day. He came over me one day and he was eating pizza and I was like, hey, could you do me a favor, cause I don't like animal products around me and I don't allow that. I've taken the pledge of liberation, whatever I was like, so you know if you could go away and he goes. Well, that's not our problem.
Suzzane:And I looked at him and I was like first of all ours. Too many people, motherfucker, because it's only me and you here. Nice and I was like step away from me or whatever. That night he went home. He went over to his girlfriend's house. He was coming out of his girlfriend's house he slipped on the ice outside of her house, fell, busted his ass. Then he drove home. He got in this car in the morning to come to work. He had a car accident and then lost his phone, so he had these three things that happened.
Suzzane:So let me tell you something.
Keny:So listen, I hope you're friends.
Suzzane:He's scared terrified terrified. He's telling my coworkers that I hexed him and I was like bitch, I wouldn't waste a hex on you.
Louis:Wow, no, he did. That was karma is really what it came down to, but I'm not going to lie to you.
Suzzane:I did. I was like, oh, this guy needs to learn not to fuck with me. Like I thought that shit.
Louis:You put it out there, you put it out there.
Tom:You said it earlier, you said it you think it. You manifested that shit.
Louis:In fact. Anyway, that was awesome, Thank you so much for being on with us. I mean yeah.
Keny:Yeah, my pleasure, appreciate it. Nice good old Halloween. I think she will be a consistent guest.
Louis:I think we can say that now. Yeah, because you know.
Keny:I've got questions and I like talking shit, so we're going to have a great show. Yeah, no, no, but thank you, I appreciate you being on. You know, really, really big time. Yeah, and came on twice. That means, I guess, you'd like making fun of us too. So there you go.
Suzzane:I didn't get as much opportunity to make fun of you guys, so I feel a little cheated.
Keny:No, no, no no, no, no, I'm going to come back, that's all. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Topic yeah, if we ever.
Tom:You know, if you're ever interested in coming back and talking more about it.
Keny:Yeah, this and anything else. Like I said, you have an idea, you hit us up, or if anybody.
Suzzane:if your listeners have specific questions, you can always let me know and we can always you know.
Louis:Yeah, yeah that would be great. That would be great podcast. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, for sure I'm digging it All right. Thank you, thank you much.
Keny:You have a good one, and to all of our listeners I appreciate you guys like follow all that good stuff.
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