Could you imagine a future where ailments like arthritis and heart disease are treated with the very cells that constitute our bodies? That's the riveting journey we embark upon in our latest episode, as we intertwine humor with the groundbreaking potential of stem cell therapy. We kick things off with light banter on the quirks of spring weather, but soon steer the conversation to the medical marvels of stem cells. By sharing anecdotes, including a pig organ transplant tale, we illuminate the intricate dance between regenerative medicine and the human condition, pondering if our own cells could hold the key to a future free of organ rejections.
We then wade into the moral waters of stem cell research, where the promise of health meets the complexities of ethics. Peppered with personal stories of headache woes and the surprising virtues of pepper for certain overindulgences, the dialogue turns to the societal ripple effects of this technology. From hair regeneration to anti-aging, we explore the cosmic questions of immortality and the essence of human experience, all while keeping the mood as buoyant as a boat on a gentle stream.
As the episode concludes, we pull back the curtain on the less-discussed terrain of clinical trials, honoring the likes of Christopher Reeve and Stephen Hawking for their inspirational legacies in medical science. We reflect on the transformative impact of participating in such trials, and how, through personal stories and shared wisdom, we're navigating the vast ocean of health and wellness information. It's a candid chat that promises to arm you with insights and provoke thoughts on the ethical tides of tomorrow's treatments, all while reminding you to carry the torch of knowledge for your own health journey.
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Could you imagine a future where ailments like arthritis and heart disease are treated with the very cells that constitute our bodies? That's the riveting journey we embark upon in our latest episode, as we intertwine humor with the groundbreaking potential of stem cell therapy. We kick things off with light banter on the quirks of spring weather, but soon steer the conversation to the medical marvels of stem cells. By sharing anecdotes, including a pig organ transplant tale, we illuminate the intricate dance between regenerative medicine and the human condition, pondering if our own cells could hold the key to a future free of organ rejections.
We then wade into the moral waters of stem cell research, where the promise of health meets the complexities of ethics. Peppered with personal stories of headache woes and the surprising virtues of pepper for certain overindulgences, the dialogue turns to the societal ripple effects of this technology. From hair regeneration to anti-aging, we explore the cosmic questions of immortality and the essence of human experience, all while keeping the mood as buoyant as a boat on a gentle stream.
As the episode concludes, we pull back the curtain on the less-discussed terrain of clinical trials, honoring the likes of Christopher Reeve and Stephen Hawking for their inspirational legacies in medical science. We reflect on the transformative impact of participating in such trials, and how, through personal stories and shared wisdom, we're navigating the vast ocean of health and wellness information. It's a candid chat that promises to arm you with insights and provoke thoughts on the ethical tides of tomorrow's treatments, all while reminding you to carry the torch of knowledge for your own health journey.
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Speaker 2:Hey everybody, kenny Cotman Lewis.
Speaker 1:Crawford and I'm Tom Remmage, the Jersey Guy.
Speaker 2:Yo, what is going on? My people, what's up? What's up how you doing, papi, you okay, I'm doing good. What's up? Louie Lou, I'm good, alright, good shit, what's?
Speaker 3:up, what's up, what's up, what the?
Speaker 1:fuck is going on. I should do it. There you go.
Speaker 2:You can't enjoy that eventually. Yeah, alright, dude, I feel like we haven't been here in a while. Man, it's weird, yeah.
Speaker 1:It feels like, yeah, but it just feels super long. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. It's all good.
Speaker 3:So everybody's peace everybody had a good week, everything nice and groovy, yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 2:That's all I want to hear. Good stuff, good stuff, good stuff. Yeah, it's just weather, bro. I'm waiting for this shit to hurt, but it's starting to get warm again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I hear we're getting snow. Yeah, stop. I only heard a little bit of stuff.
Speaker 1:I just hate the tease. Spring is always a fucking tease, yeah it is it's too early. You think of the flowers and the first day of spring comes and you're like it's fucking cold yeah it is.
Speaker 2:I show myself like that, though.
Speaker 1:Early spring is really winter.
Speaker 2:part two yeah, right, yeah, it just sucks. Winter part two. But you know, you're right, it is like that, but it's just, it was nice and then the second half of the spring is like pre-summer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it was nice last week. Yeah, yeah, we can team last, well, last week before.
Speaker 2:whatever, it was just nice.
Speaker 1:It was comfortable. You can thank global warming. There's no such thing, Tom.
Speaker 2:No such thing Tom.
Speaker 1:Yes, until we're like podcast yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's the next podcast. I know that might be too political. That sounded more like Chewbacca. I was trying to sound like that Water Water. Yeah, water, water, water.
Speaker 2:That's another episode, yeah, but yeah. So appreciate everybody for coming and listening to us this week. Today's topic is Stem cells.
Speaker 3:Stem cells, you know we do have sound effects on the board you can use.
Speaker 2:I know, but I didn't see the pictures, all right. All right, do we have the drum board? I'm just saying.
Speaker 3:I got you. You know, you have that thing you can put on it and it tells you what it is. You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we listen. We have this fancy soundboard that has buttons on it and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but see, the funny is Kenny's making noises. Yeah, yeah, but there's no, yes, there's a drum sound on there.
Speaker 1:Ah, we need a drum roll.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that serious? No, it isn't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2:I can tell them to look at it Okay, never mind, it doesn't matter. And there's that See how it? Looks Kenny's the greatest. I am here in the room. So yeah, stem cells, yes, that is going to be an interesting topic to talk about. Yeah, now we kind of touched a little bit on that in one of our other episodes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we kind of mentioned it. I think we don't really get into it. Yeah, the cryo one wasn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it was a cryo one before that, but we were.
Speaker 3:But that's Go ahead. It's supposed to be a big thing now. I mean everybody hearing it more and more now, people using it, but it's supposed to be helping a lot.
Speaker 2:Well, did you hear? This past week there was a guy who got an organ from a pig.
Speaker 1:Yes, shrug the bob.
Speaker 2:I don't remember what it was, but yeah, so that then they had to take that organ and they had to kind of grow it. It was a transplant, but they had to take the organ, they had to get it used to his body, if you will. So then his body wouldn't reject it. I just can't remember what freaking part it was.
Speaker 3:Well, you need to. Yeah, yeah, I know what I'm saying. Bring it up.
Speaker 2:Well, so that then now, here we have the stem cell stuff. Hold on, lou, get it. So now go ahead, lou. So what is the stem cell.
Speaker 3:It's a medicine that utilizes stem cells to treat our prevent diseases and injuries. Stem cells, known for their unique ability to develop in different cell types, can regenerate damaged tissues and organs, making the promising candidate for medical intervention in stem cell therapy. These cells are either harvested from the patient's own body I think it's called autologous or from the other sources, such as donated tissues or embryos.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, your body does produce stem cells but not a high amount.
Speaker 2:Right, so that's what they did. It was a kidney. So they took some of his stem cells and started to grow the kidney with his body, his DNA, his stem cells and some of his blood stuff to get it ready to this way. His body wouldn't reject it, the kidney, so they grew it in the pig. I didn't hear the whole thing. No, no, no, listen, because it was a transplant. I was just saying that as an example. It's not the same as the stem cell stuff, but I'm just saying that they were using that kind of stuff to try to get the pig. So now then my question would you know what we're talking about, if it would be better to use the stem cell? You know, because you're literally using just your own body stuff. You know it's from your own body that you're having to exercise.
Speaker 3:It helps your hair or whatever is going wrong with you.
Speaker 2:So then, instead of taking it, and chances that your body may not take from.
Speaker 3:Well, no, it's better to use it. What's the most compatible thing is yourself, right? So yeah, absolutely. Unless you had no other choice, let's say you couldn't do it. Maybe you didn't produce some cells I don't know if that's possible and you needed to get them from somewhere else.
Speaker 2:Well, and so now it's funny because you know me, I still so many things that we talk about which?
Speaker 2:I don't think it's possible, but what we talk about, like even with the cloning. So there was this movie called the Island and they had taken clones, put them on this island and when, I guess we'll say the original person was sick or whatever, they were going to take the parts from the clone. Yeah, instead of having to do all the stem cell search and research and implants whatever. So then they can do it. So if you needed a kidney, you would just go and get your clone that was on this island and take one of their kidneys. You know what I mean, gotcha.
Speaker 3:They were growing human beings. They were growing humans Right.
Speaker 2:But you had. It was for you only. You know it wasn't like you're gonna have to.
Speaker 3:It was just still kind of crazy. Oh yeah, no it's funky yeah it was crazy to tell that's kind of a weird man, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I mean, it's just all the things that we can come up with, that movies, science, you know, have come up with, and honestly, stem cell seems like to be the only one. That is, I guess I'll say, most realistic. And Well, to me anyway, most realistic, the better bet. Yeah, you know what I mean. The safest one. I mean, what are you thinking? I mean, like I said, lou, this was.
Speaker 3:I think anything that you can use from your own body is always a good thing.
Speaker 3:And if you need to get them somehow. Usually they're done from your whole body, but you can get them from other places, right, like I mentioned. But either way, it's still, you know, something your body's going to be familiar with and it's going to repair whatever damage you have. I hear it's good for, like, back injuries and sports injuries, things like that, right, all kinds of things that they could use it for. You can go and get it, but I don't know how much. I don't think it's practiced as much here in the United States. A lot of people go out of the United States to get these therapies.
Speaker 3:But, I think we're starting, I think the United States is starting to kind of. I think we are getting close to having it available for people.
Speaker 2:Well, because I mean everybody else.
Speaker 3:I'm sure it's gonna be ridiculous, of course, like it always is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I mean because everybody we're here, we're kind of nervous. We don't wanna use people, humans, as the guinea pigs to do these things. The closest thing that they say to us, to humans, are pigs. So then they try these things and practice on animals. I know, Tom, that's the bad part, but that's what it is. Like I said, they take a kidney from the pig Go ahead.
Speaker 1:I was actually looking up something here.
Speaker 1:I don't wanna change the subject too, much because I know you guys are talking about this. But this is related to stem cells. Loonos, from working with me in the past and I was doing, sometimes I would do these five day water fasts. When I was doing I lost a lot of weight doing it. But there's other benefits to that and one of them is like autophagy, right, and that's when your body, like the cells, like kinda go through like a rejuvenation where they're like they'll consume the dead cells. But while that's happening during fasting, especially in the longer prolonged fast, your body increases its stem cell production during a fast fasting increase. And there's a whole article I'm looking on it. It's actually this is an article from, I think it's New England Journal of Medicine or National Medicine or National. It's NCBI. It was one of the medical journal websites, so it is a reputable source. Just wanna say that because I know there's a lot of pseudoscience out there and stuff like that especially involving fasting.
Speaker 2:You hear some weird pseudoscience stuff.
Speaker 1:So you gotta kinda like navigate through it because there's a lot of bullshit out there, but anyway. So yeah, fasting increases the percentage of stem cells with longer telomeres. Telomere length is a marker of aging, so like, yeah, produces stem cells that have longer telomeres, so it helps your body kind of anti-aging. It's a really interesting shit which we can hold a fucking episode on that. We should, we might have to do an episode on fasting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean because everything that we've discussed being a vegan Lou, with your martial arts, your stretches and whatnot we always end up touching on what it is that we do could do that rejuvenates something in us. So I remember the last time we talked about being, you talked about veganism. Yeah, yeah, yeah that you were saying us not eating certain things makes the body produce those things, when now our bodies have basically become lazy, if you will.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so that's right. Your body produces that we were talking about. What's it called? What's the building box of protein amino acids?
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, yeah, you go acid-o-acid-o-acid.
Speaker 1:So, like there's a certain amount of amino acids that your own body produces, so you don't need to consume them, but they are in meat, right so. But if you don't consume meat, your body up right produces these, but there's one called carnitine. That's one of the, and if you consume meat frequently, your body kind of stops producing the carnitine. And then when people, a lot of people, when they go vegan for the first time, they get like kind of like feel shitty, but it takes like a while to your body start producing that carnitine again. So sometimes they go through like a period where, like they feel like shit and then someone and then they go wow, maybe veganism's not for me, and they go DPC.
Speaker 2:And they go. Oh my God, it feels so great because they haven't been producing carnitine.
Speaker 1:But you should, of course, and that's, and I read that that there was a whole doctor talking about that, but anyway, so it's one of those things when people go vegan they have to like. Sometimes the transition might take a little bit.
Speaker 3:But your body has to get used to it. You might need supplements and stuff like that. Right, yeah?
Speaker 2:just to hold you up Till you get back on. I'm sorry y'all got high. Cut you up before we're gonna say you're gonna read.
Speaker 3:No, I was just listening to you guys. But no stem cells, you know they're saying it does have a range of things. However, let's see treating a wide range of conditions, including neurological disorders, cardiovascular diseases, orthopedic injuries and autoimmune disorders.
Speaker 3:That's a lot, yeah, and actually you know it could be the beginning of something that's gonna be the next step into medicine, where we start to figure out how things actually work and how we can use them to where you know, like the drug companies, you know they're gonna be like this is gonna be a battle kind of thing. You know what I mean? Because once you could figure out how the body can take care of itself people are not gonna wanna go on medicine and do all this and I'm not to say that medicine is never gonna be used, but I'm talking about just you know what's the point. If you can do it.
Speaker 1:Naturally, there's always gonna be use for medicine and other uses. Of course.
Speaker 3:If we can eliminate a majority of it, that would be good, well, eliminate just the bad side of it and also the greediness about it too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, but I mean, I think what we have to do Big pharma, right, yeah, you know, but you know, I think what it is is we all want to be healthy. Nobody wants to live in pain. You know? Stem cells here's the one thing that is being told, that is being said, is super healthy for us. You know, that is the best thing so far for us to do, because we're growing it from our own bodies and it's used on us to make us better. You know what I'm saying. To make us stronger, whatever, and for us to turn around. Every time we take a pill, it's taken away from what our body can produce.
Speaker 3:Well, you just yeah, you're hurting something in the right, exactly. So you know, like If you're not doing the right thing.
Speaker 2:Right. So here I have my headaches, I get the crazy bad headaches, but, and I take the excedents, excedents, they work, man, they work for me, but then me taking too many and messes up the what Is? The kidneys? I think so. So the kidneys, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:You take Well, it's technically a blood phenomenon, when you think about it too, because it's aspirin there is aspirin, and then you know.
Speaker 2:Right. So then I'm thinking you know. So then what else do I take? You know, then I take whatever anti-inflammatories because it's to help with the arthritis, and it's like I'm always looking for something else. Yeah, I've been trying to eat healthier. You know what I mean. But if I can have you know, with all the stem cell research that's been happening.
Speaker 3:Well, if you've got an injury like if you're getting all that pain and everything you know, most likely it's coming from somewhere and that's the reason why you're feeling the way you feel Right. So then I can take that stem cell therapy Right and put it in that area, and it will. I mean, I even saw something on I don't know how true it is and no, I would never do it for hairy generation stem cell, that would be good, right.
Speaker 1:So I'm thinking, okay, yeah, but I'm like, yeah, I mean, that would be a good use for it.
Speaker 3:No, absolutely. I mean if you could get do it that way, and it is possible, but I don't know. He's got a full fucking head of hair he's got a down of his shoulders, like was that Homer, or was it there?
Speaker 1:Honestly, Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I would let it grow and then I would super tight. It would be super tight and it would be pushed back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know exactly how he's going to fucking man, but yeah dude yeah, oh, yeah, and when he's walking into me he's going to have his own thing he's blowing in the wind.
Speaker 1:Stem cells might be able to ungray hair too.
Speaker 3:I don't care about that.
Speaker 1:Well, you see, but that's a good gray hair.
Speaker 3:But, why he bothers you. You know I don't like because you are getting quite a bit. I am no.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I hate that. It's patchy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know I like the salt and pepper look.
Speaker 3:Even. I hate the fucking Maybe stem cells could do that for you.
Speaker 2:Like for me, it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1:Gray doesn't bother me, I just don't like that.
Speaker 2:Well, no, no, even the patchy, because, see, like I have it in the mustache and beard a little bit there, but I don't have it like on the top of my head like that. It's not that kind of crazy, you know, it's funny as hell, you know. But I mean, but then do we want to really use what they said, this medical breakthrough?
Speaker 3:on just fucking my hair. I'm afraid it's not. It's not, I'm even talking about long.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm even talking about even like down the line. I want to be okay.
Speaker 1:But you know I've. The thing is is, once the technology's out there, people are going to want to use it for cosmetics.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:I don't think there's anything wrong with it If you're using for both. You know, if you, if you, if it's coming from your own body, right, then yeah listen, I think once people come to around to it, they figure it out.
Speaker 3:That's where they're going to drive the harvest your own.
Speaker 1:I know, do they have thing, you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know, right, yeah, you know you're going to harvest your own, so then you know you can just be in your own house and fucking. You know, after a while I'm sure not like within the next year or three you know, but you know. But then that's the funny, because then it goes to me talking about you know and who knows, you know they get.
Speaker 1:The technology is so crazy. Who knows, maybe, like a hundred years from now, be able to like, synthetically make stem cells and keep people young forever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'd be dangerous.
Speaker 1:So too many already overpopulated. Now people are fucking dying Right.
Speaker 2:But you see, that's why I said that's why I said I'll make me a cyborg.
Speaker 1:I'll live here. Everyone can live forever. But then it's like fuck, there we are. Yeah, because I'll be here for another couple of years.
Speaker 2:I'll be here until I'm 110. I'm getting all my shit together. I'll hop in a spaceship and I'll let you know what it's like somewhere else.
Speaker 1:If we figured out like eternal life right, we would have to like be like yo you can't make babies anymore.
Speaker 2:Well, but then only if people still live.
Speaker 1:Only if people start dying from getting killed. But if like, because that would be the only way you'd die If you could, if you could figure out how to live, or disease, I guess, because I don't know, it doesn't eliminate disease, but if you could just figure out a way just where people didn't age, it'd be like fuck we'll be facing overpopulation?
Speaker 3:Yes, you would.
Speaker 2:It would be a bad situation, but then again. So let's make it into something where they'd be cutting people's retirement.
Speaker 1:We're like wait, we're tired.
Speaker 2:But no, but if we make it to where it's going to be beneficial for mankind, humankind, yeah, of course. So now we've stayed, let's say we shouldn't live.
Speaker 3:It shouldn't be used as a novelty. It should only be used when it's absolutely necessary, like if you have like it says in here, if you have an injury, something's going on, even if you want to use a hair regeneration at some point. But I'm saying it can't be like, you know, a fad or anything like that.
Speaker 2:Well, but again, people want to be like but, like Tom was saying, people want to live longer, or some just want to live forever because they're just afraid of dying. So that then if we put, let's say, start your limitations on this thing, say so, boom, you turn around and we know that if we, if this stem cell research, that we can live to be 200 years old, right, listen. So now, well, I said yeah, because you know, tom and I, we fucking we go right out to the fucking other end of it.
Speaker 2:But now we turn around and you know, 100 years from now, 50 years, whatever it is that stem cell research has gotten to where it is, that it's regular that we're allowed to get in, there's no issues and all that other bullshit. And so I think that's the way that then not to overpopulate the planet, that then we can go other places. You know we can hop into that spaceship and, you know, go to the other side of the universe to see what else is out there and do like that. You know we can start the new Federation you know, it'll be Star Trek because we're able to go to all these places and live there.
Speaker 2:you go.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking more like Star Wars without the force. Well, fair enough Because like if you watch Star Wars, there's humans living in all these different planets. Right, they had to start from somewhere, right?
Speaker 3:They colonized. I get it.
Speaker 1:Because in Star Wars, the galaxy is like 25, it's older than 25,000 years old. Because one of the oldest droids on the show is 25,000 years old.
Speaker 2:So like if you think?
Speaker 1:it. It'd be so crazy like have a whole civilization on a planet in like 10,000.
Speaker 2:Sorry, you know, I'm going.
Speaker 1:you know I'm not crossing again. I can't help with ADHD, yeah no definitely Star Trek for me.
Speaker 3:But and I can, and that's something you would probably see in Star Trek, kind of like in something in regards to this yeah. Right, they used Khan's blood to get in the member in the movie. Right, he used his blood because he was so you know, right, and his blood was like it could cure anything. Right, and they got him back from that and that little girl. So that's why that guy blew up the Federation.
Speaker 2:Right, right, yeah, he's like I can save your daughter, but you have to do this to me, right, you know, but in exactly so now you know you're looking at all these diseases. So you're looking at, you know, cancer, childhood cancer You're looking at, you know I guess cancer would probably be the biggest one. You know, diabetes, another one, right, you know. This is the things that people suffer from Brain injuries, brain injuries and stuff that you know. Or Jesus Christmas paralyzed. You know somebody who's paralyzed that this is going to be able to. You know, read.
Speaker 1:Oh you know, it was so big, right yeah, it was so big in the stem cell, right yeah, he was.
Speaker 2:So then, you know this is beneficial for us to be able to lead what we hope that it would be for us to be able to lead better lives. You know, if, god forbid, anything happened that you know we would be sick or where we would feel that we would be a detriment to our family or whatever, just a burden on our family, you know, and it's something that's worthwhile, of course, like we said, you know that's the right now. You know, like I said again, tom, the way you and I think we're already like you know, we're going to do this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're going to fucking fly.
Speaker 2:I don't need a spaceship. I'm going to do this shit on my own. I'm the new Superman.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be a.
Speaker 2:Mandalorian yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean you guys, my own clan, but you know, but that's us, you know, it's that bugging out for that hot.
Speaker 2:I know, I hear you, you know, but reality is that this is what's going to keep people from being in pain, from going through that hurt. You know where we couldn't. Just, you know, just help people be better and dude, not for nothing. It just sucks having to bury a loved one. It sucks when you're watching somebody go through the cancer, you know, to go through the pain. You know we're hearing.
Speaker 2:I mean, while I was watching TV when was it Wednesday? I was watching the news and they're like three people that were newscasters, anchors, that have that had cancer, breast cancer. I'm like what, Like what, Seriously, you know, you said, you hear about people that just they need it. You know I work with people with disabilities, so then you're looking at something that will make them, you know, be able to function a little bit better, to get them to focus a little bit more. Maybe you never know, you know this might be the way to go, this might be the one thing that is going to be worth Well, it might be something that leads into opening up other doors and answers to the human body Other than stem cells, because you might.
Speaker 3:it might lead you to something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it might be all good, but it's like anything else, bro. You do something that's going to be worthwhile and someone somewhere will turn around and try to make this something.
Speaker 3:Listen so it's got. It's got a couple of things that it's not major, but there are some things that you need to worry about. You know challenges such as immune rejection right, ethical considerations and regulatory oversight. Nonetheless, ongoing research and advancements in stem cell therapy continue to expand the possibilities and applications of stem cell therapy in modern medicine. Right, and now you know so, but that's, that's very like, that's really not a big deal when you think about that, right, you know, oh, that's it, as long as it's not a list like the medications we see on TV, that they and it was funny when we watch those things on TV, right, and they would listen. Oh, but if this happens and that happens and you know that comes up, that's only that's only some Hang out, it's only some of it.
Speaker 1:It's not even all of what it actually does Exactly. They have to legally report everything.
Speaker 3:So that's why it's like but a commercial, you can't do that Right. So you can say so many yeah, but in on the people working, everything you get with it. I'm sure it says that all that in there.
Speaker 2:And that's the it does usually with pharmacists. So yeah, right, right. But I mean, like I said, we know that there's downside to all of this. You know there's pros and cons to everything. You know and and being able to turn around and, like I said, that when it gets to the point where we can all use it, that's going to be beneficial to mankind. You know we got to start somewhere. Let's see.
Speaker 3:Let's see. It's available in various countries around the world Right.
Speaker 2:But now again it's. It doesn't happen overnight, it's not like we can go over there and take it out and it does say let's see, it's important to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's starting to be more and more available than which is really good, right, you know, developed countries, specialized medical centers and clinics focus on regenerating medicine over stem cell therapies, specific conditions such as orthopedic injuries, neurological disorders or certain types of cancer. Wow, that sounds pretty cool, right, I like that, so that then you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:No no no, no, no. I was going to say then with that, like I said before, that we can we're hoping and looking to use it for better you know, yeah, and like I said, just to, to stop. You know, cancer is an ugly thing, bro. Cancer is an ugly thing, you know, and it it fucks you up. It fucks up the family, you know, because you're watching your loved one just deteriorate, you know.
Speaker 3:Oh, you know, I get it.
Speaker 2:And so then, if this is something, might be a to a point yet.
Speaker 3:Well, that's the thing in order for it. I'm assuming I'm gonna take a while guess here that If you're already that far gone, I don't think stem cell therapy would probably do anything for you. Well, it would have to be caught, and in the very oh yeah definitely, you know, if something like that before it got to a point.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm saying like, well, I'm going like I said just to be extreme, your death bed, and then you give you a stem, oh yeah, no, no, no, I'm talking about, like you know to to avoid getting to that point, you know, to avoid getting to where you know you're just deteriorating and it's, you know it's that kind of painful. You know I'm saying that if we can stop it early, or then where we are now and I have to go to the chemo, and you know Just all the pain of having to deal with chemo, I mean, even if you catch cancer early, you still have to go through some kind of chemo one way or the other, you know, unless they can surgically remove that part of that piece of whatever that's cancerous you know, they still gotta do radiation too.
Speaker 2:Right, this is gonna make sure it's not going anywhere. So to avoid all that kind of pain and that funkiness, well, of course, yeah.
Speaker 3:And again, that would be a better treatment or something option for treatment than the other thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, and so they don't have to use radiation anymore.
Speaker 3:It would be a great, absolutely. I think a lot of people would like that, and.
Speaker 2:I said, and that's just for you know, speaking on the cancer.
Speaker 3:You know, like I said, there's other things that we have. The injuries like ankles, knees, shoulders, exactly, have all these things Cardiovascular I've got arthritis, yeah.
Speaker 2:I have arthritis. I'm just, you know, down my whole left side. So then now, if I, you know, need the cartilage in my bone in my knee or my neck, or something like that, in my shoulder, that then the stem cell would be something that I can use, can you?
Speaker 1:imagine, yeah, all day If they figured out a way where they could have like just a piece of the tissue and like kind of like use stem cells to regenerate, like grow an entire heart, that's exactly Kind of like mixing stem cells. Yeah, kind of like fifth element, Right yeah, ooh, I love that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, they found just a hand and they put that whole, the whole gut in yeah.
Speaker 1:The machine.
Speaker 2:And that's what I'm saying. So that then for us, you know that if we could turn around and do that, you know that goes your transplant. So that goes your heart transplant, that goes your liver transplant.
Speaker 1:You know the kidneys, yeah you don't have to wait, you have to be online.
Speaker 3:Listen, they're gonna be able to Right. They're gonna be able to. They're doing it now.
Speaker 1:You could donate pieces of your like. I could be like I don't have to donate my entire kidney. I could just donate you a piece of my kidney and they grow a kidney and then they have it Exactly and you have it for somebody else, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know, that would be freaking awesome, you know, and that's why I think again, you know we did our own kidney.
Speaker 2:If the DNA is good, right, yeah, as long as the DNA is good, yeah, right, well, we did that, you know, and we're talking and we're reading out of. You know what we've read is for you know these little medical journals, like I've been reading out of the Mayo Clinic, and you know the things that we would like to see happen are things that they, of course, you know we're a freaking couple of machuginas that are sitting here having this conversation because, oh, we're gonna talk about this, you know, but us reading it and the things that we're looking at, it's like holy shit. You know, this is real. These are things that people doctors, scientists are really looking at and it could be beneficial. Do we wanna talk now about jumping into what's ethical? You know, because they're talking about where things come from, like where these stuff come in.
Speaker 3:It's the whole embryo Right exactly. So then you know we are not going down.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I'm not saying for us, I'm saying you know just where?
Speaker 3:you know, I will say this, though Uh-huh, it's ridiculous to think that way, because it's still something that the human body created. Yeah, so it shouldn't matter. It's yours, you made it, regardless of where it came from and how they used it it's. That can't be a bad thing, just because for the reasons that they protest against, which you know. I mean, it's just to have something to say.
Speaker 3:And then you go, then it's those people that are doing that that are saying that Anything that the body produces and if you can use it from that and it was something that came from you that I think is totally ethical, regardless, and it's no, no, nobody, anybody's business, and you do what you need to do to to live as healthy as possible.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm sorry, go ahead. I don't think it's ethical about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, not at all, but. But where you're getting it from is the unethical thing, and that's but where it makes no sense. So it's like you know it came from a human. What's the problem, Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah. And, like I said, it's just it's one of those things you know. It's who, how, when. If they're gonna take it this far, if they, I don't think so.
Speaker 3:Because it's been, I think, because people are gravitating to it and using it and people are advertising it and talking about it, and so that's a good thing. You know people like, hey, yeah, no, I'm gonna go do that, you know it's available.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's unethical as long as someone signed the waiver like saying you can use. You know this, you know.
Speaker 2:Well, it's not unethical to the one that's using it. The problem is that do you you signing away or signing off that this you can? I can use this body. You know stuff from you, body parts or whatever you know. That's where it's coming from.
Speaker 1:As long as it has permission to like the family or whoever has the say.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, it'd be like when you donate a kidney or donate an organ donor.
Speaker 1:Like if I had like, or if you're like a woman who had a miscarry Right, like if she signs saying I can donate this to science, the body of science, and they use it for stem cells, I don't say I think wrong with it, but if it's just like they took it without like, permission or whatever.
Speaker 2:That's when it's like, hey, that's fucked up. Yeah, fair enough, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the only that's. You know, that's that's me. I think that, and that, I think, is the happy medium. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:It's yeah you signed the donor paperwork. Yeah, so check it out.
Speaker 3:So yeah, In countries with less stringent regulations or oversight, with stem cell therapies may be available in a wider range of healthcare facilities, including private clinics or alternative medicine centers. However, patients should exercise caution and thoroughly research the credentials. Right Of you know the, you know the physician you're going to use and oh, like in other countries, Right, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you want to make sure you know yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:Credentials, reputation of any facility offering stem cell therapy or ensure safety and effectiveness.
Speaker 1:Right. So body like organ harvesting is like a thing in other countries.
Speaker 2:So yeah, this is, this is yeah, right, but the body harvesting is like but again so that then now they take a kidney.
Speaker 1:This is not far fetched.
Speaker 2:No, no, no but they take a kidney or whatever, Right, and when they harvest. It is a hope that you're that that part that they're taking is going to be a match for whomever they're. Quote unquote take it.
Speaker 3:I didn't already know that information most likely.
Speaker 2:Well, no, how so? Because if you try to find, we're walking down there Nowadays technology, you can find out anything bro. But listen, I'm. I look like a specimen of perfect health, but you know, as somebody comes in, kidnap me and takes a kidney, oh, you mean, they find you got like a fucked up.
Speaker 1:You got fucked up kidneys, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Like you don't know if my shit is going to, if it's messed up or whatever. Like there's no telling when they harvest them like that.
Speaker 3:That's what you meant. No, I'm taking more of a good technology. People are able to find out. No, the blood type too. No, thinks about people and figure things out or whatever somehow. And oh, I thought you meant like the elixir stuff they hack you or whatever, and then they you know. But that's a horrible thing to even think about.
Speaker 1:The only thing is in another country you know, it's like you see it, a bribe a doctor to get medical persons medical you know, you know, get medical records.
Speaker 3:I hear you yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, it's those kind of things like body harvesting. There's guys working on the inside like a doctor like, if I got a patient, he's got good body parts. Give me a percentage you make.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I could black market, exactly 10%, 20%.
Speaker 1:Also, not also for black markets? Yes, black market sale. Yeah, right Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you see. So now in the Mayo Clinic. This article says why can't researchers use adult stem cells instead? So although research into adult stem cells is promising, adult stem cells may not be as versatile and durable as embryotic stem cells. Adult stem cells may not be able to manipulate to produce all cell types, which limits how adult stem cells can be used to treat a disease. So you know, so we say so certain stem cells are better than others. Right, well, again, the embryonic ones are better because they're versatile.
Speaker 2:They can switch up. You know again, it's brand new Right and we can turn around and you know it said you put you know your DNA with that, you know it'll just take to yours It'll adapt, so that then boom, Now you got it. You know you got it.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying, that's what, yeah, right Now, I didn't look and see.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to make beliefs. I'm hoping maybe you might have seen it. Can we use it to build new limbs?
Speaker 3:No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:And I said it's crazy, but you know that would be.
Speaker 3:I'm sure that. I'm sure at some point they'll be able to do that, They'll be able to figure that out.
Speaker 1:Who would even be cooler, as, if they can, you can grow your limb back.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That's what I mean?
Speaker 1:yeah, I thought you meant like grow a limb in a lab and then you start on. No, I was thinking you doing it yourself. Oh, I was thinking like like the show in the movies, you got like it's like hooked up. It's got like this this arm that that's looks like a fetal arm, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then they come back the next day, dead pool, dead pool. No, what about that guy? It's got, like you know, blood going through it and they got all kinds of shit. What movie was that with Schwarzenegger, with Mars?
Speaker 1:It's gross that fucking hand. What?
Speaker 3:What was the guy on the movie with Schwarzenegger with Mars?
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh um.
Speaker 2:Taldurikal yeah, Taldurikal yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then the guy.
Speaker 3:The guy had had the thing on his belly with that crazy hand. No hold on. With his hand. Remember the guy he went to go see. He was some kind of whatever.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was in his shirt.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the crazy cap and his hands and his face. Oh yeah, forget what his name was, but that was the actual guy. He thought he was talking to the guy and the guy opened his chest up and he was talking to the guy in the shirt, Exactly yeah, I had his crazy hand looking thing.
Speaker 3:It was weird, Ha ha ha ha. That was a weird scene. That was a Taldurikal.
Speaker 2:You see, even you went to that side, Lou Just saying.
Speaker 3:So, as far as availability, it looks like the United States stem cell therapy is available in the United States with numerous research institutions, hospitals and clinics offering approved treatments for certain conditions. The Food and Drug Administration regulates stem cell therapies to ensure safety and efficiency.
Speaker 2:So now us talking quickie. Google research Says can humans regrow limbs with stem cells? Humans do not regrow their limbs, although, interestingly enough, there are sporadic reports in the medical literature of people regrowing certain organs. So you may not be able to, but they've been working on it with animals. So again, testing it, you know, which is yeah, right. And I said, I understand, I get it, that's not too groovy and whatnot. I get that, you know. But you know, I know, it's just one of those things. Do we give it a shot? Do we try it on a human? I mean, I think we should just try, not humans, we're off the bat. In all honesty, you signed a waiver and just make it happen, you know.
Speaker 1:They do human testing all the time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hey, people a lot of money for certain things.
Speaker 1:My buddy was in college. He comes back to me he's got like this makeup on his back with the tape. I'm doing the testing. I gotta go they come back and they give him like I forget how much money.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you could make a lot of money. Yeah, you know it's crazy, yeah and, like I said, I, was doing it funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think literally know the law, but I think I'm gonna start looking into doing that kind of shit because, dude, why not buggy, what's? I mean? Like I said, what's? My kids are grown. God bless them, thank God. You know I love them and everything.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm said you glowed the fuck. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:We can go camping, you know, but I'm just saying you know that's stem cell therapy. Yeah, I can feel I do that, bro. Give it a shot, Like I said, see what it does and how it takes to me, for all people that are like me, with whatever illnesses or whatever you're gonna do one, you gotta do one where you were able to like the.
Speaker 3:You could smoke Marijuana all day and they test you that way.
Speaker 2:You Just blazing well fucking day, you don't have any way to go they'll take care of yourself that happens.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But if you're getting paid money, oh yeah, but I was like, oh, like, like, too much, like, like, like. I mean you don't die from from smoking too much weed, but you get fucking paranoid and fucking sweaty. Okay, by the way, if you take.
Speaker 3:If you take pepper, grounded pepper, right, yeah right. You put it in your hand or a cup or something and you you breathe in the fumes from the. You know the descent right. It's supposed to help level out. You're high. You don't have the power. No, you're right. I think I've done this out. You're pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 2:I didn't think you were going with that.
Speaker 1:You're probably gonna sneeze a lot, oh no, no, don't sniff the fucking pepper, bro.
Speaker 3:Somebody give me a straw. I want to do my row.
Speaker 2:You're the guy that we see on this guy all over the place.
Speaker 3:You didn't eat a. You know one of the soap things, yeah the bath bombs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we can't grow limbs yet as far as themselves, but we can do they. They're working on the organs and getting that stuff. So you know. But again, it's like anything else, it's the beginning. You know. There's the infancy of stem cell research Technically, you know, and you might be able to. You know you look at the veterans that have come back that they've lost limbs and stuff people in terrible accidents. You never know. And again, you know we talked about Christopher Reeve to if stem cell research was More advanced he might have been able to walk again you know it's a good possibility Today he would yeah, that's what I'm saying to be alive too, because he would get those infections, say people right exactly killed him.
Speaker 1:Right, he had like a like a bed soar infection.
Speaker 3:I think that's what it was, something like that. Yeah, I was so sad.
Speaker 2:Man that broke my heart, but that's just so many, because he was such a fighter about it.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, he was all day an advocate.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. And what's his name? The one, the scientist. I always forget his name, but I used to know his name all day, the one that was in the wheelchair. Yeah yeah, guy, yeah the guy. There was a scientist that he was in the wheelchair and he had Hawkins.
Speaker 1:Thank you, I couldn't think of his name talking about that. He knew what I was talking about. Of course I have to think of that movie. Yeah, I think it was in the. The was the movie, the pregnant movie, the one, the one would just. That's Rogan when he's knocked up.
Speaker 2:Like I forget. You know they all the banter between him and his roommates. That's how he was a ship.
Speaker 2:You see, listeners, this is what it is, man, but yeah but, anyway, but he's another example that then you would able, if we had stem, so I Guess, just advancements in stem cells, what we could have that he'd be able to, you know He'd be somebody who would still be alive, he'd be able to walk you, be able to speak, communicate as a, you know, on his own, without the computer. And you know it's just I. I Welcome the idea, the thought that we as a race, human race, that these are one of the good things that we do. You know, again, it's something that's gonna help us yeah, you know what I mean and For anybody to live pain-free, regardless of where the pain is coming from, you know, whatever diseases and such, if this is something that's gonna help us and make us stronger, that's gonna help us to do anything to make us better, help out with our kids Listen.
Speaker 2:human race has been going in that direction for a long time, so right, and this is just one more thing to add, you know, to that, you know you know, hopefully we can continue on.
Speaker 3:I don't think we've right now.
Speaker 2:We kind of pause a little bit and then do it right because of what we have been told, what we believe is going to help us, you know, and it's just, instead of helping us, making us better. It kind of just was stagnant right now.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, what all is it, unless you do it yourself, because you can take care.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 3:So if you do that and go out and you want to buy fresh fruit, and you bet you know and screen your, squeeze your own juice Right, you're having a good salad. You know like you're getting it for. You know you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 2:Right hit the farmers market. You would do it.
Speaker 1:You know what the shame and that is is that like you it has to be. You have to research all that shit on your own and do it yourself. So right, but now we have should just be general information that like they teach in school right, I get what you're saying right. Doctors teach like, but they did.
Speaker 3:Like back in the day when I was going to school, they taught you know, I mean no, but they know, they always. But for the time at least they were doing something and that they did. I always remember it brought up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean yeah but I mean like all this extra stuff to take care yourself when you get older, and all this stuff. You know, right keep yourself young and all that stuff. It's just like not you have to like figure it out yourself because they don't want you to know right that whole gym. There you take you. You're really good to keep taking care yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, you got the inversion table. Yeah, you got your whole little jam.
Speaker 3:Go to the dojo all the things I'm using just to keep myself to feel better.
Speaker 2:You know I mean, but you're using help.
Speaker 1:But you're right you're doing, but like it's not like general information right. Like, you have to research it right figure it out yourself right or word of mouth. You got a friend who's got one is hey, check it out. You know, I got this. You know what I mean. It's not. It's not just like hey, you know, like this is you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:You know, I totally get what you're saying, because it yeah, no, yeah, it's good, yeah, it is, it is. But but now we have the advantage now because we have, you know, social media.
Speaker 1:Look it up, or something like it still have to look at right, I mean, it's not like being I mean because the problem is people Listen to authority if a doctor tells them right they're more likely to do it than do it themselves right, I mean, I agree, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3:and the doctors?
Speaker 2:I could say you could that he don't get paid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but listen, I know I know, I mean like, or just someone who's like Telling I don't know.
Speaker 3:I would push back with my doctor when I would go to his office like for my heart doctor and everything. Mmm, that's gonna, because I would read thing about a study on aspirin or I read something on this man yeah or and I would bring it up to him, right, and you say yeah, and then he would explain to me, and then he would pull it up and he would show me. But he was a really good doctor, right, he didn't take offense to it, he didn't get, like you know yeah.
Speaker 3:Uptight or anything but he was a great doctor a good person because you mean, and he would just talk with you too. So, but I use, I didn't go to my doctor just assuming that he knew everything, like if I saw something I'm gonna ask you say, I just read this about the study going on. What's the deal with that? You know, he's like yeah, you know the Percentage is very low. Right, yes, it is, but you know it's not a common.
Speaker 1:See, that's the way people should approach it right a lot of people just will just take the word for it, right, he's a doctor.
Speaker 2:I went to school for a year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he knows and like that that's true, they do know a lot of stuff, but like, there's some things that like, like what do they do?
Speaker 3:What do they do, what do we?
Speaker 1:practice, they practice medicine. He got a right on the first cuz, that's what.
Speaker 3:Tommy told me that all this she goes. That's what they do. They practice medicine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like, like and I just know this from veganism, you know it's very general. Hey, all the we all know that like doctors, like his doctors, like they, they only go to school for like three months of Dietaries, like information they it doesn't even have to be consecutive, it's a mountain hour so they can take some hours. Here's my words. There it's not very so. Like Doctors, like, aren't dietitians?
Speaker 3:you know what I mean, right.
Speaker 1:Doctors give advice on like unless they go to school, to become a dietitian right exactly, you know that you gotta take their would have grain assault when they tell you about that and you're better to research yourself.
Speaker 3:Look up from a rep from like an actual, you know, reputable source right, or even if the doctor says, listen, I don't know, but I can recommend somebody or an area To go to right.
Speaker 2:I don't know why they don't never, never do that my doctor does, he does, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like a recommended dietitian because, like you know what I mean, I don't know. Yeah, no, I get it fucking stuff.
Speaker 1:How great would that be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah some places do, some places do, yeah, but with that, you know, that is our time, but we like to, you know, tell everybody. You know, and I was crazy, we got all hyped up in there. Sorry, you want to say something?
Speaker 1:else.
Speaker 3:You know.
Speaker 2:I mean, like I said, just everybody. Just please do your due diligence. You know, in your research, look to see what's gonna. You know, if God forbid, this came up that you know you needed to use and try to get into the stem. So not even got for beds, just something. Well, I'm just saying you know right now, because of how it's being used, you know, like it's Not how it's being used I'm sorry like what they use it for. So you know it's for the I want to say yeah do you do diligence?
Speaker 3:as a whole. You know anything medical Right if this.
Speaker 2:It's gonna help. You know that's gonna make you feel better. You know, dig into it. You know Go to. I said we were reading things off for the Mayo Clinic and you had it off for the. We reading off of.
Speaker 1:It's like a.
Speaker 2:Yes, and you had another one.
Speaker 3:I just the various things yeah, so just you know, look up, do your research.
Speaker 2:You know, and and take care of yourself. You know, be safe and, and, you know, eat healthier. You know, do things better. That's gonna got their exercise, you know. But so with that, appreciate everybody. Thank you for listening. You know, take care of yourselves like Follow like share subscribe all that other good stuff at that belt notification yeah. Yeah, how all day.
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Speaker 2:Yeah, good shit. So thank you everybody. Love peace and hair grease, live long and prosper and go vegan Hello.