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Treasured Memories and the Business of Collecting with Tom, Keny, and Louis

April 03, 2024 Keny, Louis, Tom Season 3 Episode 10
Treasured Memories and the Business of Collecting with Tom, Keny, and Louis
Cottman,Crawford and the Jersey guy.
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Cottman,Crawford and the Jersey guy.
Treasured Memories and the Business of Collecting with Tom, Keny, and Louis
Apr 03, 2024 Season 3 Episode 10
Keny, Louis, Tom

Ever wondered what makes that old comic book stashed in your attic potentially worth a small fortune? Or why some sneakers command prices that could put a dent in your mortgage? Grab your magnifying glass and join me, Tom, along with Keny and Louis, as we embark on an adventure into the eclectic world of collectibles. We're talking the kind of treasures that turn the mundane into the magnificent and spark a wildfire of nostalgia.

This is the episode where we tear off the price tag and look beyond the dollar signs. We'll traverse the landscape of memories with items that have journeyed from the dusty shelves of childhood to the pristine displays of avid collectors. We're discussing the pull of the past, the charm of chance finds like rare coins right under your nose, and the iconic status of certain timeless memorabilia – think Batman's very first appearance and baseball cards that could get you a new car. But be warned, it's not all shiny quarters and fanfare; we also tackle the darker side where collecting walks a tightrope over the pitfalls of hoarding.

Finally, we salute the past, sharing poignant tales of military memorabilia that bridge the gap between generations and continents. From the solemn history enshrined in World War II artifacts to the pop culture phenomenon of Funko Pops, we examine the threads that tie us to history and each other. So join us, the triad of time-traveling collectors, as we reveal why some items are simply priceless, whether it's the emotional weight they carry or the eye-watering figures they fetch. It's not just about collecting; it's about connecting – to our past, to stories untold, and to the community that finds joy in every acquired piece.

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Ever wondered what makes that old comic book stashed in your attic potentially worth a small fortune? Or why some sneakers command prices that could put a dent in your mortgage? Grab your magnifying glass and join me, Tom, along with Keny and Louis, as we embark on an adventure into the eclectic world of collectibles. We're talking the kind of treasures that turn the mundane into the magnificent and spark a wildfire of nostalgia.

This is the episode where we tear off the price tag and look beyond the dollar signs. We'll traverse the landscape of memories with items that have journeyed from the dusty shelves of childhood to the pristine displays of avid collectors. We're discussing the pull of the past, the charm of chance finds like rare coins right under your nose, and the iconic status of certain timeless memorabilia – think Batman's very first appearance and baseball cards that could get you a new car. But be warned, it's not all shiny quarters and fanfare; we also tackle the darker side where collecting walks a tightrope over the pitfalls of hoarding.

Finally, we salute the past, sharing poignant tales of military memorabilia that bridge the gap between generations and continents. From the solemn history enshrined in World War II artifacts to the pop culture phenomenon of Funko Pops, we examine the threads that tie us to history and each other. So join us, the triad of time-traveling collectors, as we reveal why some items are simply priceless, whether it's the emotional weight they carry or the eye-watering figures they fetch. It's not just about collecting; it's about connecting – to our past, to stories untold, and to the community that finds joy in every acquired piece.

Please Subscribe/Follow the Cottman, Crawford & The Jersey Guy Podcast.

Follow us on Instagram and Facebook.
https://linktr.ee/ccandnjguy

Email us all your feedback, comments & suggestions at: CCandNJGuy@Gmail.com

Speaker 1:

Cotman, crawford and the Jersey Guy podcast.

Speaker 2:

Hey everybody, Kenny Cotman Lewis.

Speaker 1:

Crawford, and I'm Tom Remmage, the Jersey Guy. Yeeeeeeewww, how you doing what is up.

Speaker 2:

That was like a really slow, like what the?

Speaker 3:

hell did that?

Speaker 2:

You didn't pay no mind who's making noises.

Speaker 3:

You did Sorry, see, oh man.

Speaker 2:

So what's going on, my fellas? Everything good, everybody groovy.

Speaker 3:

Everything's good.

Speaker 2:

Nice peace. Groovy Coma collected chilling.

Speaker 1:

Everything is Hello.

Speaker 2:

Boom Cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So jump right into this one. This week's topic is collectibles. Yes, yes, that's the good groovingness right there. So collectibles, everything is collectible.

Speaker 1:

That's right. You know some things are common, like comic books, baseball cards. And some things are weird like fingernail Okay.

Speaker 2:

What are you doing on your free time?

Speaker 1:

Holy shit yeah.

Speaker 2:

Nice Don't incriminate yourself.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'll put this in the skin box. Clarice. No, that was doing a gold member.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that was a gold member. Yeah, that was nasty.

Speaker 1:

That's right he had to have his tongue out to go eat it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh, that was nasty. They shaved this one for me there. That is fucking hilarious man. Oh my God, that's nasty, but yes, so everything is collectible, literally. There is something for everyone that they're going to want, like and or try to just have of. So, like you said, comic books we got baseball cards, basketball cards, pokemon cards yeah, you know the kids had all them shits back in the day Fantasy figurines, crystals, like Lou said now coins, money, you know, is that interesting one?

Speaker 1:

that because people are big into like pop Not so much this isn't so much pop culture, but they're big into like timeframe, era, yup, and people like, like, they love that 1950s kitchen. Look, I couldn't wait to get rid of that for my kitchen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, they did more of the vintage Frigerator, yeah, frigerator, they got the vintage.

Speaker 1:

If it's done right, it looks good, you know.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, I mean, some people love that stuff.

Speaker 3:

No, my second most favorite collectible sneakers Sneakers. Right, you do. Sneakers Sneakers.

Speaker 2:

Sneakers are where it's at, right there, and I do, I wear them, I use them, clean them and all that other good stuff. So they do always look, you know, basically new. But yeah, man, everything you can flip. Everything. Flip meaning you know, you buy it, you pay one and then just flip it and make it into whatever you know we got. I was researching comics. The comics they kind of, you know, depends on it's. Like anything else though you are, if you're going to be able to sell it to somebody who wants it, then you'll make money off of it. Yeah, you know, cars, same thing with cars. Like I don't see, there's no way on God's green earth I'm going to buy a 1960, whomever, yeah, and I'm looking to pay a hundred and two hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2:

But people are cool with doing that. You know spending 250 grand on a vintage car like that.

Speaker 3:

And we're saying it's not only about what we would do, but mostly the different types of things that people are collecting.

Speaker 1:

When it comes to collecting, there's so much to yeah, there's two sides to the coin and there's the side of saving it. You know kind of like for like, you know like flipping it right, there's the people who just want to have a whole set yeah.

Speaker 3:

Whatever Right you know they just that's.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it's a childhood.

Speaker 3:

Right, it has a it's a meaning to them, right it's.

Speaker 1:

You know, it's something that's very sentimental and the 2000s he was already collected. He started like going to start and buying some of his old action figures that he had as a kid.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, some people have the, you know the Kung Fu GI Joe's.

Speaker 1:

Right, you know, I had that when I was a kid, you had the big Jeep yeah.

Speaker 3:

The whole thing you know and the scar on the face.

Speaker 1:

For me it was I mean we. I mean we.

Speaker 3:

I mean we had the smaller figurines, because I was you know right, you had the small one, we had the, we had the beginning of the GI Joe.

Speaker 1:

They tried bringing them back when I was older, but they yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, even the little green army men, yeah, just having those sex? Yeah, like those, that's, the collectibles. I remember those. I think I will talk about two in the other episodes. Where doesn't it depend on which one though?

Speaker 3:

and how right.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying so, like you know, you have the right one.

Speaker 3:

you find the right one. So when you were your kid, you had that.

Speaker 2:

Dude and all the we talked about it before.

Speaker 1:

Remember the 80s muscle men. They were like little figurines. Right, yes, one-inch figurines and they were all like right, and that's all right.

Speaker 2:

Bro, the, the, the action figures, the WWE action figures, you know the Hulk Hogan's Andriyad Jionian, you know, oh these were.

Speaker 1:

These were just like those two, yeah, but I mean there was these little one-inch figurines and they were one color.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, because it was like the micro machines.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, but you're talking about WWE too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, I'm just saying like just out of all the different things, because if you had those, did you?

Speaker 1:

I didn't have any of those and now or at the time, it's called WWF. But yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2:

You know, it's a shame, you know.

Speaker 1:

You know what my favorite time before was I didn't get too sidetracked during for WWE is is the attitude error. That is my favorite hands down. And and they stopped calling the attitude because it used to be called WWF attitude. It used to be called and then, once they called it WWE, they dropped the attitude.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and it lost their attitude.

Speaker 1:

But anyway, that was, that was with the Undertaker Right. Yeah, the Generation.

Speaker 2:

X. Yeah, oh, my God yeah.

Speaker 1:

Remember Undertaker he had the. It was Undertaker versus Kane. He had the.

Speaker 2:

Acolytes yeah, the brother yeah, uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

The guy, the gang rail, he'd come out of the ground.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was great man, that was a good. That was a good. But that's when they, when they were really going bananas selling all the figurines or the action figures, you know, because those are different things. The video games, video games. So if you have Dreamcast, if you have the original Atari 2600. I got the GameCube baby. Well, that's the thing. So if you had the GameCube, and it still works, and the cartridges and the discs.

Speaker 1:

I mean still working what not, bro?

Speaker 2:

you can get good money for that right up.

Speaker 1:

Nes too NES.

Speaker 3:

Yes, that's, that's a very sought out. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. Because, not all these are collectible. You can play it Right. That's the fucking cool part. You can play all these old games.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You can, I mean you can get an emulator and blah blah blah.

Speaker 2:

Right, right, it's not the same.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, you can get an emulator and hook it up to your TV and buy the aftermarket controllers.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, of course, but it's not the same. No, it's not the same. It's actually having the system. It's seeing that I still have the original Wii. I still have the original Wii. No, you don't. Yeah, I do. How come we never play? I saw that because I got the other one. Yeah, I'll get up next time. I'll have it when you guys come over.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, I'll work your ass, I will own you we frisbee it's over Some golf yeah.

Speaker 3:

The boxing on my son. Do the Wii golf.

Speaker 2:

Fuck yeah, no the golf, I'll work your ass in the golf.

Speaker 3:

Oh my brother, here we go Right now. You do not yeah.

Speaker 2:

Here we go, here we go.

Speaker 3:

I want to teach them how to learn your lesson boy. So people collect a lot of things, right? So we just say that we say stamps, stamps.

Speaker 2:

No, we didn't say stamps. Yeah, right, pokemon cards.

Speaker 3:

You said that antiques are another thing, right. A lot of people go to antique stores and they find out, whether it's old pictures or painting. Sometimes they find stuff by accident. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Boom, they get. They hit a gold mine, like a $70,000 vase in her house.

Speaker 2:

Can you imagine Fucking know?

Speaker 1:

it yeah, no, no, no, you're being on the show going excuse me Value that $70,000. What Can you repeat that please? The vase that my grandmother gave that I found in my grandmother's house during the, you know, when she died, you know dude, that's when you hit because somebody hit the floor. Right, yeah, later for that.

Speaker 3:

I don't actually would probably get such and such, yeah, at the right auction. Is there one here today, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, we haven't went out. I don't know where that auction is because I will be there. Yeah, yeah, let's go. Yeah, no, I mean, and it's crazy because, you know, some people can't let go of some of their collectibles, you know.

Speaker 3:

And like I said, I have comic books out there.

Speaker 2:

It depends on how bad they got with it, because some people look at it as not a collectible but an heirloom, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm telling y'all it's a collectible, it's not an heirloom, so that shit. Unless it's like a necklace or something like that approach, you know, maybe a watch.

Speaker 1:

An heirloom is like yeah, if you pass, if you like your grandfather gave it to your father.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but see, my uncle gave me my comic books. That shit is a fucking. That's the comic books. I have comic books from back my grandfather my father he had this watch in his ass.

Speaker 1:

Fucking idiots.

Speaker 3:

I said oh God.

Speaker 2:

But yeah and that, but that's what it is. You know you have to.

Speaker 3:

Just I'm just saying that because you know people are hoarders yeah, some people hoarders but don't forget, it's usually the rarity, the historical significance, so excuse me, right, the aesthetic appeal or other unique qualities. Collectibles can be include like coin stamps, comic books, trading cards, antiques, artwork, toys, memorabilia from movies, sports. Like movie memorabilia is a big thing, right, if you have something from back in the day that you listen. You went to the movie and you got. They handed out something, right, yeah, exactly, from a certain movie. Right, and you still have it and it's in the original package that you got it in, you know, or it wasn't even open, or you got an extra one because you didn't open it. Yeah, oh, just wear this one and this one, I'll leave it closed and I'll never open it. Kind of thing. People do that and you never know that shit can be. It's crazy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, even like with the coins Sports coins, well, you do coins because so like, yeah, my dad was Bitcoin. My dad was Right. So by me saying like you, I meant the conversation we had had, that you were talking about. I forgot what it was. We looked at and we were talking about the three legged yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's the nickel. The nickel. It depends on what year. Right, right, right Right.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying there's little things like that, like I didn't even know, I forgot how we even got into that conversation.

Speaker 3:

I found that there are metal. There were actually. If you take the magnet to your pennies, there are ones that will be magnetic and those is worth anywhere from a dollar fifty and up, really, yeah, yeah. So dig it. Or if it's punched twice like of a certain coin is punch a certain way if there's an arrow.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was punched with the wrong metal, right? Okay, it was a different or a different die like. So a lot of you know the gold coins they came out with back a few years back. They were dollar bills right?

Speaker 1:

Yes, or if you got two serial numbers that's right, another one.

Speaker 3:

Then they did some quarters got Minted that way. Yeah, from that gold Gold metals, right? I mean for those gold coins. If you got that quarter, if you have one of those, are you fine one.

Speaker 1:

Right, it's like extra material in the press, when?

Speaker 3:

no, I just know actually it was punched with that right I don't know how that happened, but something, yes, I guess I get to die out and they print it and they Went to circulation right and somebody gets that it's worth.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's ridiculous. So somebody's coins go for mm-hmm, but you got to. You know they tell you before you Put your coins in at the bank and you put them through the machine To get a list of things the rarity of coins, what coins to look for, what dates? Yeah, so if it's diamonds, pennies, quarters, whatever it is to look at, yeah, Well throw those dates aside and then examine them right with this and then cash in your stuff.

Speaker 2:

There's an app now that you can turn around and take a picture.

Speaker 2:

Yes do your, your coins, your Well your monies the so on comic books and I mean just a whole bunch of different things like Let me think, think about it, bro, nolan Ryan. I remember back in day my uncle had a whole shitload of Nolan Ryan comic. I mean a baseball cards. Bro, we went to a comic shop. They gave him five grand right there, and this is back in the late 80s, yeah, and I'm like what. So I mean shit, you know, comic books.

Speaker 1:

So what are huh? So I was thinking like what? What are some like? You know, I know, in the sneaker world they call them grails. Right, like a holy grail is supposed to be like that. Like some, that's the most sought after thing.

Speaker 3:

So what Jordan's right like well, some go.

Speaker 1:

So what are like. What is like the holy grail in different like. We should talk about that like. Like like for baseball cars. The holy grail is what the Ernest Wagner card is. That was right.

Speaker 2:

So what it is? That's first name Ernest's, I think so, some like that. But so what makes the the the holy?

Speaker 1:

grail a bunch of them actually, because the rarity well, because the rarity, and who made it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you have tops, you have flair, stuff like that with a cigarette, I mean with the baseball card, I think Ernest Wagner he's cigarette once. Yeah cigarette.

Speaker 3:

They were a cigarette packs.

Speaker 1:

He was against smoking.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so he had them pull it all from the packs right, okay, then you go a couple made into circulation right and if you have that A lot of right, that's the and that's what it is. So it's where, how that it was made.

Speaker 3:

You have a Mickey Mandel card, a Babe Ruth card, any of those, but again but see, it's not just the name. No, it depends right. There's a bunch of different things that have right.

Speaker 1:

So then it has to be detective. Comics number.

Speaker 2:

So it has to be like a first run, first back. How much oh.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I don't say so it depends on.

Speaker 2:

It has to be like a first run. So when you have a comic book, so you have baseball cards and all that stuff, it has to be a first run and it has to be Depending on who made it. So like again with the baseball cards and or sports cards right flair, upper deck and stuff like that right tops, so that then, depending on who it was that did it first, when, and then by the time that you have one that you can see if it's you know.

Speaker 3:

Um right, I said first one or second run or whatever people would buy sets to and they wouldn't open Right.

Speaker 2:

But then you got to get lucky and hope that those sets are in there, no filming what you got.

Speaker 1:

So go back to the detective comics. Detective comics number 27,. Right, that's the first appearance of Batman's, first time we see Batman, right, it was sold in two that may of 2022 For 1.74 million dollars now you go. I guess this was the highest grade.

Speaker 2:

Copy is the it was in the best grade condition that you could get it for that one Right because of how old it is right. And then that's the other thing. Now You're looking at what the condition of it is. So they have someone with like numbers, or you know good.

Speaker 1:

Excellent. Oh, that wasn't the highest grade one they said. If if it was that, they said that it's great, it was, it was a very good quality. But they say that if it was the highest grade, which is CGM, dash 9 to, I don't know right. It would have been three million dollars.

Speaker 2:

You go. You see, well, that's crazy, yeah, and the only reason why that. But see again now to be 10, depending on what it is and why it is. So when Batman came out and all the things going on with Batman right now and DC, that that comic book is going to be Worth that, the same thing with all the Marvel stuff Superman first comic is sold for a lot.

Speaker 2:

And no, no, no, I'm saying like, depending on what's going on. As far as those things are going, so I can say yes that Batman, batman movies are coming out. They be doing the revamping the whole idea of Batman. Boom, it went for that much money. Now you look at all the Marvel stuff Iron man, comic books went through the freaking roof, black Panther.

Speaker 1:

Because all the movies that were coming out. Yeah, absolutely the other way. It will happen too. It'll go down. I had a baseball card and it was um, who was? Who was it? He was, he was. He was one of the ones that was. He got in trouble with the steroids, he was in the he was Not who's the Chicago?

Speaker 3:

Which one Chicago Cubs? It was um Jesus Christmas.

Speaker 1:

Yes so I had a Sammy Sosa super patch card. So baseball cards, you know they. They got to keep up with the. You know keep keep thing popping. So they have things called Jersey cards. Yeah, they have a piece of the jersey cut into the card. I had what was called a super patch card. It was the patch on the jersey and it was like bigger. Sammy Sosa game war, and it's a game war jersey.

Speaker 1:

You know, a piece of the actual jersey worn so and Like I was like I was like, oh shit, I should sell this. It's worth a lot of money. I was like I'm gonna hold on to it and then, like two months later, the whole shit came out and the fucking value just kept no way.

Speaker 3:

If you look it up now. It might be worth sometimes. Yeah, it might be worth something now, for sure, yeah there's a people like oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

I want to get my hands on that now, because now, because so many people body burned it.

Speaker 1:

You kept going tanking.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you should check and see if it's up again.

Speaker 1:

I have, I should check you still have it. I might be, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

You gotta go find it now yeah, we'll find that idea.

Speaker 1:

How are you stuff my collectibles?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude, I'm telling you, there's just so many things.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, go say what do you look at?

Speaker 3:

Well, you would just say and like there are so many things, like there are also people collect books Yep, that's right. Postcards Yep watches Mm-hmm records people collect.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so now I wish I had yeah, all the records my parents had.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they had a ridiculous mountain records and they got destroyed because they just let them go right, right. But I remember as a kid they had the whole, the whole wall was lined up. I mean, yeah, like a bookcase of right. It was just ridiculous, his dad and good, I'm not talking to shit, I'm talking good music, right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, through the years, you know, it's funny because everybody thinks that the whatever medium they had was gonna be the last one like right it's that keeps them out. Everybody thought my friends, my friend's dad. He had Racks and racks and racks of CDs. Yeah like ridiculous amounts. I Like CDs. I buy a lot of CDs but like now, cds are obsolete right crazy right. Everybody buys them thinking. And then the fucking and it's like, oh, we don't have because, the technology, technology Right and right.

Speaker 3:

So net right exactly now.

Speaker 2:

So with that, being said, though, it depends on what it is so CDs final?

Speaker 1:

well, no, but see.

Speaker 2:

CDs. It doesn't make a difference, because you're gonna be able to get your music either now back, cuz they're getting back into help movies, though I the DVDs and stuff. Well, again that it's still if you're gonna have again.

Speaker 2:

It just depends on what the medium is. That then people are like ooh, ooh and it'll be nostalgia. So movies and music, not so much because you could get that now on anything, but if you're gonna turn around and you have not, movies and music, oh my good video games. So now the video games. That's different. So when people thought that they were obsolete because now you could get a PlayStation or an Xbox, you can download the games to that without having to buy, not having to go to the store and buy an actual disc or cartridge or whatever.

Speaker 2:

So then, if that medium, that would be a boom, that's gonna stay super popular and to be able to play them, like you were saying earlier, that way with the original joystick. So the Atari's?

Speaker 1:

with the square like that. That's old school right there.

Speaker 3:

oh my god, You're looking at when the what you call it came out with. You're playing Space.

Speaker 2:

Invaders, space Invaders and doing that stuff. But then you had, but you had Nintendo. So now you're sitting there with Nintendo and you had to blow the cartridge and put it in there.

Speaker 3:

just right, you know you got you know I have a few of those.

Speaker 2:

Right, so you're doing that. Then you're looking at the old school joystick because then you're doing track and field like did that on purpose if you could hear that. That's why I did it, because people know what that sound like. You had to hit the A-B to make them run through the game. So hearing that you'd be able to game called Contra Up up, down, down, left, right, left right, b-a, b-a, start, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

It's like, it's stuff like that Select, start, right yeah.

Speaker 2:

If you have a friend that you got to do for both you guys and that would give you a hundred men. You know Stuff like that. So I said, depends on the medium, that then you know it'll be worth money CDs, music not so much.

Speaker 3:

Model trains.

Speaker 2:

Model trains, dude. If I had the trains that I had when I was a kid, oh my god, we'd be doing this fucking podcast.

Speaker 3:

My father had a train set. He had some old, they were locomotives and they actually, if you put like a in the stack, so it was the amount of it. But it was so old it was made out of, it was so heavy.

Speaker 1:

It was made out of.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was from like the 1920s.

Speaker 1:

I think.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was heavy.

Speaker 3:

It was like close to like six or seven pounds that thing fucking weighed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, you had to wash your hands. Yeah, but then. But see now, with those it probably made a fucking cast.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it could have been a cast on it too, but it ran.

Speaker 3:

It was an engine. It ran on the track and it ran. Yeah, now it's a lot of luxury.

Speaker 2:

So now the track itself was the conductor of electricity into the train to get it to go. So that then if you had the tracks, the old school tracks that had three, four tracks, so it was two little ones in the middle and then the outside tracks with the wheels actually sat on, those were worth more money than the ones that only had the two outside tracks that the wheels sat on.

Speaker 3:

Right, john, I had. It was just the ones he had. It was just the smaller track.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, see, and then, and so I had the big one, the four one, and, man, I had the whole set up. I had an Amtrak engine and everything on there. Oh dude, it was freaking great. Don't ask me where that shit went.

Speaker 3:

That was back. You know, I think, one time, if we knew, then yeah, no, no, no, I didn't throw it out.

Speaker 2:

I didn't throw it out. I think I had lost it because I think we had apartment had gotten robbed. It was a gift for me and I think the apartment got robbed and that's where I ended up losing all that shit. And I mean I was like maybe 12, 10 around. Then I was like no, but you know, it was over within a week and I remember so here's a good question when does it go from collecting to hoarding?

Speaker 3:

Right? Well, when it gets out of control, when you can't walk through your house, Well, I think you got a problem.

Speaker 1:

I remember the first time I ever heard about hoarding was when I was in school. When I was in college, the professor was having. He was talking about his father and he said yeah, my father's a hoarder and I was like I don't know what the fuck that means. He's like he doesn't throw ever throw his newspapers.

Speaker 3:

Newspapers.

Speaker 1:

He had stacks. Yeah, some people do magazines, Right, but to him it was his collection but, like he told me, his father's house had so many newspapers that you had to walk through Like a maze, like a pathway.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, see, but then nuts, but right, so then that would be it, it's out of hand.

Speaker 3:

by that point, it's not even something that.

Speaker 2:

It's not a collection. It's enjoyable. Anymore it's not enjoyable. There's a problem going on.

Speaker 1:

It's ruining their life. Right yeah, it's controlling their life. Basically, it's a fire hazard too. Imagine one flame.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh, dude yeah, be over Well right, but Drop one roach and it's all over.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's over. Yeah, no smoking weed in this house. There's a new papers catch up, but see but Vaping and edibles only. Yeah, that's it, that's it. But I guess it becomes hoarding. When it technically becomes, I guess we'll say a mess in your house, if that makes any sense. When it's in your way, when it's being, when it's now obstructing your exits, you know shit like that. Then I think then yeah that will be hoarding.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean, but if you're doing, if you're someone who is like with sports, memorabilia right, memorabilia, right. So you people like to have all that hanging up on the walls of their favorite team or whatever it is, or they're into all of it where it's just different autographs from different teams, different players, things like that. You know whether it's on a napkin or you know like I'm sure there's stuff out there that we don't even know about. That would be like crazy, right, you know, worth something, yeah, you know, or not. Even if it's worth it, if it's just worth the sense of what, who it was and why you have it and it's for you.

Speaker 2:

For you would be sentimental.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's the main thing too. Yeah, you said before, anything is a collectible.

Speaker 3:

Right right.

Speaker 1:

So you know, I have a friend, his wife loves pigs.

Speaker 2:

She has, like pigs, everything.

Speaker 1:

And she's like pig, this pig, that pig, that that's her collection. She collects pig stuff, not specific brand or just anything pigs.

Speaker 2:

Well now, saying that now too, collectibles doesn't mean that it's everybody wants it or that it's going to be worth that kind of money. Collectible is what you do.

Speaker 1:

The reason it's worth it it could just be a simple hobby, that something you do, the reason something's worth that much money is because it's so rare and sought after that people pay for Right.

Speaker 2:

People know what it is Because people want it in their collection, Right? Yeah, I gotta have that.

Speaker 1:

So I have well, I own every X-Men. I gotta have the for X-Men number one yeah, right, right.

Speaker 2:

And, like I said, that's what we were saying before, started saying, like you know, what makes it that that holy grail, what makes it that one off? So, like with sneakers, they call it the collaborations. So it's who made the colorway. The colorway meaning the colors that are on that sneaker, the style of the sneaker, how the sneaker looks, where the line is with the swooshers, the bottom, so you got the bubblegum bottoms, you have the cement bottom like in the Jordans and stuff like in the Air Force one. So it just depends on what it is. I've got sneakers with a colorway they don't even make them anymore. Depends on what store you got it in. So then it depends on where you got that colorway because that's an exclusive to right.

Speaker 2:

So only that one store Right. Or you're only going to get it from the Nike store, or you're only going to get it from, you said, foot Locker Dick.

Speaker 1:

So whatever other sporting goods store, they're only made for that, it's only promotional, it's only for that.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, no, it's not that it's promotional, it's just that that's the only place where you're going to get that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I thought you meant the ones like this, is it? You know like, for instance, like you know what my sun collects? Actually, that's another one we could talk about, but not wait, wait, wait continue.

Speaker 2:

So you rest out. No, no, I'm saying. I'm just saying that you know, it's just different things in like this. So it could be that you know. So, with the Jordans and the Air Force ones and whatnot, it's just the celebrities that made it. So you had, let's say, you had Pharrell with that guy and he collaborated with Michael Jordan on you know whatever Jordans that he was doing and whatnot. And just because of the colors and how it made it, you know how they did this and whatever to it. That's what makes it that holy grail, because it was Pharrell, the musician, that did that. You get me Right? So then, that's what makes it the holy grail. So for sneakers, anyways, right.

Speaker 1:

So what my son loves collecting is Funko Pops.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 1:

And that is like a, that's a whole and you can get them anywhere. Now what?

Speaker 3:

the hell is it.

Speaker 1:

So Funko Pops is a brand Funko and they make these things called Pops and they're these little figurines and they all have like they all have they all short and they have like black eyes. They look almost like bobbleheads. Yeah, and some of them are bobbleheads because and it's funny the guy at the store, because we go to you know a comic book store, you know the guy explained to me. He says some of them have to be bobbleheads because one of the toy companies has rights to eight-inch figures and because they're in eight-inch figurine.

Speaker 1:

You know whatever Disney stuff, they have the rights to it. So they had to make it a bobble. They had to put a bobble. Yeah yeah, so it's not a figurine.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome. Cilu, that's a, that's a Funko, and they make them for everything.

Speaker 1:

They make, like you could type in Al Bundy and there's an Al Bundy Funko, you know yeah.

Speaker 2:

And you can get them for.

Speaker 1:

So it's people love it. Yeah, so the reason why people love collecting this? Because they have it for all different shit. Right, you could have it for anything. It's anything. Any comics Culture reference, Anything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, anything, anything. They have it for anime, they have it for I. Just, I was just showing you lose a Scotty Pipping Sports players. Yeah, sports, sports. And now, like the LeBron, one is walking insane money. I'm like what the fuck? There's a lot of Star Wars one Star Trek. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So, I'm sure he loves the Halloween ones. Yeah, sure, yeah.

Speaker 1:

He has a lot of Nightmare Before.

Speaker 3:

Christmas ones.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right.

Speaker 1:

They make special one with a train and of course there is a special one, see, and this, where it gets a lot. He's got the whole train, but the one, the train with the clown on it, is like $200. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Wow See, but now does he take, because they make a lot of it and it's not production anymore. Does he take care?

Speaker 1:

of them? Yeah, we have them. So we we do take them out of the box, but the boxes we keep in a, in a, in a container, separate container in storage.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And he has. So the thing is that the guy told us the stories like oh, you got to go to Michael's and order the baseball bat case. Yeah, the baseball bat case fits the Funko's perfectly. Not every single one. Sometimes there's ones that are bigger, have weird shapes, but they all fit in the Funko. So we mounted all these cases up on his wall, so they're in the glass case.

Speaker 3:

Oh yes, the protective.

Speaker 2:

MS yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then, and then we got the, because they do sell. If you want to keep them in the cardboard box, they do sell box protectors and stuff Right, yeah, but now the boxes are the same size, but this fits the general size and you you know. But but like we, we just keep the boxes in a in a in a storage container.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, definitely yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then if we sell them, we just put it back in the box.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what you got Lou.

Speaker 3:

No, I was just thinking about when, when. Uh remember when they did the glasses at McDonald's, you got the jelly jars.

Speaker 1:

So, oh yeah, All that stuff the McDonald's Toys are collectibles. Yes, they are. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yes, they're not Happy Meal Toys, or are you?

Speaker 2:

huge collector. Well, back to in the day, remember they had the um, they had Batman, they had um the whole uh McDonald's gang had regular grittiness and whatnot, not just McDonald's, like Burger King Toys.

Speaker 1:

Burger King Toys, yeah, mcdonald's are the most, most known ones. Yeah, yeah, right, but yes, yeah, cause all I think all the fast food places did stuff, but like McDonald's is the ones that got that were the most known.

Speaker 2:

Right, mm-hmm. Yeah, listen, like dude, there is, there's something for everyone. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

You know it's a. What's a popular one is from McDonald's. When Batman forever came out. Yes, Very controversial. The penguin.

Speaker 3:

Oh because there was a big animal activist thing on that too, because of the headlight penguins on the set as well.

Speaker 1:

But that's not, but that's not the penguin. You know the character, the penguin, he you know Danny.

Speaker 3:

Danny, the video, yeah, yeah, which one it was. The original was at the original.

Speaker 1:

They swapped him out for the for the classic one comic book. It didn't look like the Dan DeVito because they was too controversial.

Speaker 2:

They didn't want to scare the kids. Are you kidding me, bro? I never knew that.

Speaker 3:

Now I wonder did it come out the first? Did it come out with the Danny DeVito first and then eventually they?

Speaker 1:

They might have been like the curious first someone in the testing was like get rid of this shit. Yeah, no, we're not doing that and so they used, like the old-school one with the glasses right, yeah, like from the original Batman and Robin show, but so see love so me and because I moved so freakin much.

Speaker 2:

I used to work at a record store and there was a CD. I Want to say, nope, I'm lying to you. I don't even remember who the artist was, but they pulled the artist. Oh, in St Clown Posse. Oh yeah, I see P. They had an album that was released. They had already distributed it to all the stores. They pulled it the morning. It was supposed to come out. So, you know, some people stole that. So I had, because I bought it the night before at work because we didn't know they were gonna, you know, pull the shit off the shows. I bought it Fucking lost now because now I'll bet money that if I go to any ICP fan.

Speaker 2:

Yo dude, if I take it to ICP themselves to them, they'll fucking, they'll buy it for me. Yeah Well, I mean yeah, but I mean, you know it was one of those things.

Speaker 1:

Oh, what it was what it was what it was.

Speaker 3:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

I remember, yeah, oh, mr Cutter. So what it was was that Disney signed them. Disney didn't pay any attention to the kind of music or the kind of hip hop, the kind of rapping that they were doing.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, why would fucking Disney sign? So when Disney?

Speaker 2:

realized it. They're like whoa.

Speaker 1:

We don't need to listen. Yeah, they don't have to pay no mind.

Speaker 2:

And when they listen, somebody listen to it the night before, whatever it was, and they were like put a hose, pull all them Shits off, and it was already too late and they had already. Well, there wasn't too late, like the store opened up. Will stores opened up at like 839 o'clock. They were pulling them off and shit. It was fucking insane but plosy insane, wow that's crazy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's stuff like that. That's when it, when weird things happen, like that, you know.

Speaker 2:

We're chugging a little bit. It changes the course of it, you know yeah history of something.

Speaker 3:

It's just, you know, if you have this, you know you're in good shape. I was just reading on this. It was saying like military memorabilia.

Speaker 2:

Yes, If you have that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was oh so big thing like yeah. And that guy's back in the day when they were coming home from World War two, they were taking back you know right. It's and things like that. You'll be able to do that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, right right, you know, and that shit gets stolen. My grandfather had all his World War two shit stolen.

Speaker 3:

Do you really? We were able to get get it.

Speaker 1:

You know, get new stuff, but it's it's not his old shit that he went with like and and so like he had all the all metals and shit, they're all fine, oh, that's it. But he did have. He did get a gun. He he had a gun from, but it had to be filled with lead or something right, yeah, it could be operable, but he had a Nazi gun.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that was a luger, I think, if I'm yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think that's maybe that's what was and he sold it to. He sold it to my my dad's like best friend or something like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude, listen, a lot of that. I had a. I used to work for Goodwill down in Florida and we had somebody donated a little bit led.

Speaker 1:

They just like filled it, but I just like like yeah yeah, and it was hot and they just put it in there, so that was it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I had gotten a, had a couple of bayonets and I had them appraised and they were real, you know, facial, groovy bayonets. Because of who made them and I don't remember the whole story on all of them, but yeah, I had a couple of them. Things bro, knives, even like just today, different kind of nights or who's making them, you know the mask is Samurai swords and stuff like that. Stevens to go. He goes around and he'll buy that.

Speaker 2:

He goes to the master blacksmith yeah or swordsmen, swords makers, and Because this guy made it and how many times it was folded. Oh yeah, that that makes you know the luger. Luger is the luger. So what's a ruger? Another kind of gun, isn't it?

Speaker 3:

I don't know I. Think they refer to simply as the luger is the semi automatic pistol is widely used in German military during the World War two and is recognizable in distinctive shape and toggle lock.

Speaker 2:

Mechanism. There you go See. So that gun would have been.

Speaker 3:

You know you had that with money if you brought that back.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah sorry, I didn't mean to drop no, no, no. Well, I mean they said that it's just. You know the war memorabilia well, world War one, two, civil war, stuff like that.

Speaker 3:

you find any other stuff, oh wow, even revolutionary war.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you have your hands on that, you know yeah, the clothing, the uniforms, even the flags at the flag, because of when you know just what's left of the flag. Yeah, it's insane. Well the thing, and it's.

Speaker 3:

I won't. You know, the flag over here in the museum in Milford is the flag that Abraham Lincoln's blood is on when he was assassinated. Yeah, you told me that. What would something like that and I'm not saying, of course, that's, that's like you know, it's sacred, you can't, but I bet you that something like that would be priceless. Yeah, but to see like anybody who's a collector of any.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, like you said I'm saying if someone if someone, if a collector who was into that kind of stuff, so right like I can get my hands on that, you know, right, that would be something that they would want.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's just like any, it's just anything. It just depends on who wants it. That's it right? No, I can say I'm into comic books. I love sneakers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my dad like the coins and the trains, right so, but I wouldn't pay yada yada money for the train. You know I wouldn't pay any money for the baseball cards and the in the sports cards. I'm like and whatever, you know what I mean a Baseball I would like, no big deal, you know, but you're into baseball, if some, if you got a hockey puck from one of the Ranger games.

Speaker 3:

I actually have a Gretzky sign puck.

Speaker 2:

There you go. You see what I'm saying to you. That means something to me. I'm like yeah, whatever, you know what I'm saying my cousin, my cousin Down in Brooklyn.

Speaker 3:

He was a big collector in comic books and baseball cards and sets. So when you guys were talking to me earlier he knew, you know he talked about all that stuff and he had mentioned to me. The last time I spoke to him he said it's changed now it's not the same way it was. Everything has changed now. Now people go online and they do their thing with the. You know they can auction it off or they can sell it, you know.

Speaker 3:

I mean there's so many different things you can do now online with yeah and so people, that's what people do and so it's changed to that kind of format, versus what they used to do, when people would go and trade them and everything a comic book stores. I don't think there's many of those around.

Speaker 2:

No, there's a handful. Depending on where you go, though, too, because you know you have you still got to get comic books?

Speaker 3:

obviously you know. No, no, no.

Speaker 2:

I'm well no, because see now to in comic books. If you go to certain websites, you got you reading the comic right off the truth?

Speaker 3:

I don't know your computer or whatever you know, but you could get a hard copy if you want it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, you probably get one with outline too, as well, yeah, I'm sure, but you know again, it's, it's one of those things, uh, which ones you get. So, like I went kind of searching online. Matter of fact, like two weeks to the last time, we last thing and the comics that I thought would be worth crazy money. I'm like what that's it. That's all there is, because for me in my head, with all these kind of books I have, in no lie bro, I've got Conan, conan, the barbarian Savage sword of Conan, I have all of those that they're in black and white and they have all the crazy graphic novel looking stuff, and then I worked half the money. I thought they fucking were.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know what the problem is to anything that says collector, sign them on.

Speaker 3:

It is not yeah, no, yeah, you know it's not gonna be right. Yeah, exactly, it's not meant to be, just to be like something you want to keep yeah like, if you're a collector, you're gonna want it. Right, it's not gonna do anything.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you just want it because you're a collector? Yes, it might have like a special foil.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, so now that you say that too, right. So now, here it is, I have all the death. The Superman's, that the Superman was in a whole series. I have collected that but now it depends on what you have it in. So I have it in the wrapper and which foil that you have, and what colors for the first second?

Speaker 1:

but it depends on which one that you have and reminds in a box and then and not another fan of folder things are.

Speaker 3:

My cousin gave it to me, is so.

Speaker 1:

Do you have a? Do you have a signature with the certific, with the CoA, so different?

Speaker 3:

author. Right, exactly, you have to have that. I don't I doubt I have that because I remember that was.

Speaker 1:

Another thing going around too is is they are my QVC. They were selling like death Superman right by, yeah, right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so many right, Right, but they signed it, and then they put it into the, into the right for you, and then it was sealed and you can't even see inside because it's just the. It's a colored seal. So I have black, white and red and I have it where, like I said, it's sealed and you can't see the comic itself.

Speaker 3:

Those aren't even words and what the fuck it was. No, I thought it was. No, they might be.

Speaker 2:

Don't get rid of no, I don't know, I'm not getting rid of them, I'm just saying Like you know, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1:

Right things change people get rid of them because that's not worth that much they get rid of yeah right, and then you kept it, and that's what is like I went?

Speaker 2:

I go to comic book. I've been to comic con several times and I love comic con, bro. Yeah, but comic con isn't what it sounds like to those who haven't been there. You got or the cosplays, you got people that dress up as all these characters. Yeah, but it's not just selling the.

Speaker 1:

The artworks they have, like comic, comic con, ones that they released, and it's like, exactly, there's a so different.

Speaker 2:

It's not like just comic con. It's not that they just send in, they're selling comic books. And you which one in more?

Speaker 3:

camera walking through the crowd. It always looks like to me whenever I see yeah he's just walking.

Speaker 1:

He's just not only walking.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was walking through and everybody was coming in. I got pictures. They were like that's a good cosplay, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3:

It looks like it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I love it, bro, I know, but you gotta like. The crowd just wants to go, so we're gonna have to go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you gotta go, but I'm gonna tell you how you know it's weird about speaking about signatures real quick, because I know we got we only got a short amount of time is Another weird thing that started happening is you would get signatures from people from Celebrities who would sign like a baseball right. They would sign or like it would just be like a random thing is worth a lot, like like who's a big celebrity now? A Taylor Swift right. Can you imagine if you had like a comic book that you liked and it was signed by Taylor Swift or like this real weird Random things? I have a baseball bat yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But see, it would only be worth, right, but it would be only worth money if you had the picture to go with it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah so like right. So now this now she's you have to get authenticated. You bring it to an authenticator and they go.

Speaker 2:

That's really your signature, right well what I'm saying, but still that you know you would have to say about a football, because now she's with Travis Kelsey. Oh yeah, then if you get a football that says can't run the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1:

Oh Jersey by Travis Kelsey, son by but only now in like in, like five, ten years. Yes, well, probably not maybe you know, maybe someone else is more popular right at the moment.

Speaker 3:

Now would be the time you would probably want to sell that. Yeah, then again, you never know, somewhere down the line, somebody might see that and go hey, I want that.

Speaker 1:

If in the early 2000s you had a shirt that Justin Timberlake wore in sync right by Britney Spears.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, what about? But what about Jenny?

Speaker 1:

Now it might not be much back then, when they were super popular.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, jenny, the masseuse that she's talking about, like when she went to she went to see the Osborne. Yeah, and getting stuff from Ozzie. You know that was signed on old shirt or whatever the case like that was. You know was Oz, because back in the day that's what the celebrities did, all those singers, yes you know they'll wipe their face with a towel and throw it into the fucking crowd. I'm like you know what I mean and they get hit in the head with a pair of bloomers.

Speaker 3:

Well, I remember back in a day as far as kiss was concerned, if you got Paul Stanley would break a guitar. Of course they would throw picks into the crowd, right like that too. All them do that. But he would break a guitar and throw it into the audience. Oh, so if someone has, if someone has that, or strum six if you have any that kind of stuff too, a concert male, you know, there you go, I'll collect the bill.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. And then you have to have the ticket to show that that's where you got it from.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but I'm saying that would be cool. I got like I have a couple of picks from from a kiss concert when they got back together.

Speaker 1:

That's another collectible thing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and it's aces actually the role aces, because he was the one who threw Matt me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's great, yeah, that's awesome. Like I said, stuff is good. Yeah, it's good too. Oh yeah, and they say you know?

Speaker 3:

Beatles, who yeah stones yeah all that stuff is crazy.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh, any interest that you have, there's gonna be collect. Right, because there's other people that find I'm like the balls right, yeah, cuz there's other people that like that stuff and they're like oh, I couldn't get to that concert.

Speaker 2:

I want one, and you know, and take it. You know, madonna, madonna had that book out the book is you? So many people wanted to see what the book was Inside. I kept mine sealed, I didn't care, I got that shit in storage. You know what I mean. I got, I said I I'm probably rich and don't even know it. Yeah, well, you know, I keep saying back, saying God bless me with good looks instead of money. And here it is. I could be sitting on a ton of flip fucking money and not even know it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah thank you guys for not disagreeing with that. Just saying, just saying, man, but yeah, I love that stuff, I love it. All right, it's fun. But so then, with that, thank you everybody for listening. Catch you guys on the next one. Love, peace and hair grease. Live long and prosper and go peak Hello.

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