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Embracing Halloween Nostalgia: Horror Classics, Eerie Anthologies, and Cinematic Frights
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Picture this: the leaves are turning, a chill is in the air, and your home is adorned with mischievous ghosts and glowing pumpkins. As Halloween approaches, we're embracing all things spooky and nostalgic, from the thrill of Spirit Halloween stores popping up to cherished memories of Shocktober on WPIX. Join us on a journey through the eerie corridors of late-night horror classics like Creepshow and Tales from the Crypt, where we compare its anthology wonders to the iconic Twilight Zone. Our conversation is a joyful celebration of Halloween nostalgia, filled with affection for the uniquely eerie charm of the season.
What if we told you that horror movies have a timeline as thrilling as their plots? We unwrap the mysterious layers of horror's evolution, shining a spotlight on anthology series and the cinematic titans like American Horror Story that have redefined storytelling. The twists and turns of the Halloween franchise unravel before us, as we ponder the chilling genius of slasher icons like Freddy Krueger. We even explore the unexpected inclusion of A Clockwork Orange in horror lists, contemplating its psychological impact. It's a fascinating trip through horror's haunted history, revealing the genre's influence on audiences across generations.
Venture with us into the chilling depths of iconic films like The Exorcist and The Shining as we share spine-tingling anecdotes and dissect scenes that have left indelible marks on our psyche. From Kubrick's unsettling visions to Rob Zombie's atmospheric remakes, we dive into the creativity that continues to haunt horror franchises. The eerie allure of sci-fi horror is not forgotten, as we appreciate the visionary work of directors like Jordan Peele. And as we wrap up, we tease our plans for future Halloween episodes, brimming with gratitude for our listeners and a promise of more thrilling content. Join us as we celebrate the spooky season with a blend of horror nostalgia and cinematic appreciation!
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Spooky Season
Speaker 1Cotman, crawford and the Jersey Guy podcast.
Speaker 2Hey everybody, kenny Cotman Lewis.
Speaker 1Crawford and I'm Tom Ramage, the Jersey Guy.
Speaker 2Hello again, my friends. How you do today, I'm doing pretty good.
Speaker 1Pretty, pretty, pretty good you good Welcome to our podcast.
Speaker 2Welcome, welcome one and all, hello.
Speaker 3Did that sound creepy? Yeah, you are creepy.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's because of the topic. No but now you're creepy. Oh, now I'm creepy. What are you saying? Tell us, Lou, what's today's topic.
Speaker 3Well, this is the month of October. There's only one thing we should be talking about right now, and it's spooky season Halloween is here it's spooky season.
Speaker 2This is Tom's holiday.
Speaker 3Well, we officially declare yeah, I want to know what's going on before we get on to the topic. What's going on with your son? What are you doing?
Speaker 1So we this past weekend, you know, we did our normal thing, where we do all the put, all the um you know we do.
Speaker 3We have the animatronics, we have inflatables, we decorate the house, yeah, yeah, yeah all right, and he's like can we do it early?
Speaker 1can we do it? He's asked me to do early. I'm like no, because you know why? Because if I, if I put, if I started earlier those inflatables, they sit too long on the grass, they leave like bald spots. Oh right, yeah, kills the grass, that's true I can't leave it too.
Speaker 1So I'm like one month he's got like yeah, so the first weekend, first weekend in october, that's what we so, anyway. So we do that and, uh, he loves it. But you know what we actually? Uh, the unofficialfficial start of Halloween season is when, as soon as. Spirit Halloween opens up.
Speaker 3Right, of course, so.
Speaker 2August is like our unofficial start. I thought you were going to say, like the official Halloween season is, like you know, da da, da da and give me the whole moon and the stars and shit as soon as.
Speaker 3Spirit. Halloween opens up and you find out where it is.
Speaker 2That's great, Tom, I'm going. You got me bro.
Speaker 3Tom and I did the same thing. We went.
Speaker 2She was just there tonight as a matter of fact, oh yeah.
Speaker 3I went. Before I got on we did the podcast. I was talking to her.
Speaker 2She was in Middletown. That's funny. I'll probably wear it here, matter of fact, because we got another. What episode?
Speaker 3or two before. Yeah, we're going to do it all. I'll wear it here. We're going to leave everything in place for the month and everything.
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3So the topic is classic.
Speaker 1Halloween movies Yep basically have gotten to a lot of we've done some horror movie stuff, but it's Halloween, so I mean now.
Speaker 2Now we're gonna do cause like what's that channel AMC? They do a Halloween, they do a horror movie countdown. They do like the top 100 horror flicks so you never seen that, no, but you know what.
Speaker 1You know what's a good, nostalgic thing for me? Cause when I was a kid, we used to in, like middle school age, we um w channel pix, channel 11. Oh yeah, they used to do shocktober. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we used to talk like it was funny. I remember, yeah, waiting online in the morning to for in school and we would be like I remember the one day like creep show came on oh dude. Thanks for the ride, lady.
Speaker 2Yeah, we kept saying that yeah, we just all walked up to each other doing that stuff right?
Speaker 1yeah, we're talking about like you know it was it was. That was like everybody was watching that yeah too. You know, I found on youtube they have the bumpers for where, like the old commercials for shock, oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to look it up, you're like it brings it back.
Speaker 2It's a narrator and hearing his voice.
Speaker 3Yeah, man, that was the greatest shit I saw when HBO had that on. Yeah, yeah, what was? It Was the HBO one.
Speaker 1What With the skeleton?
Speaker 2and everything oh Creepshow, oh no you're talking.
Speaker 1Tales from the.
Speaker 3Crypt.
Speaker 1That wasn't HBO. Yes, it was. That was HBO. I loved Tales from the Crypt, but I thought Tales from the Crypt Was a regular. Tv show? No, it was on HBO it was on HBO.
Speaker 3I think they did air reruns.
Speaker 1Yeah, later on, that's where.
Speaker 3That's where it was. I'm pretty sure it was. We can look it up, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2That song alone was like watching that shit in the middle of the night, like everything moving, like yeah, the previous thing for me is the old school, old school at late at night. Horror movie with the hand oh yeah, uh, chiller, chiller, chiller, chiller theater the hand had six fingers no six or seven fingers right, was it? Yeah, it was a bunch of fingers, yeah, and there would be letters and it would grab the letters, yeah, and put them back underneath. Put them back underneath. It was the creepiest fucking thing.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, yeah, you would watch it. You were a kid seeing that man. It was great. It was dimension of crypt. I want to talk about that a little bit. That was a good show.
Speaker 2Yeah, there was a couple of stories on that.
Speaker 1You know what I liked about it. It was an anthology series, right. It was just a different story. It was, you know it's. It's kind of like um.
Speaker 2Twilight zone. Yeah, yeah, it was a Twilight zone of horror.
Speaker 1Of horror. It was one of my favorite episodes was the one with the old guy and he's trying to hit on this young girl and he goes to a plastic surgeon this crazy plastic surgeon. It was like a Frankenstein type. He's like well, I'll put, I'll take Hans here and put his face on yours and like he's like oh, you like me now she's like oh, you're creepy.
Speaker 1And he's like and then they switch Hans's you know torso. And then but he, hans's you know torso. And she's like oh, but look, oh my God, look at your legs. He's still got old man legs.
Speaker 3Oh, he does everything.
Speaker 1But he goes broke and, oh, he never wants to tell the girl that he's wealthy, he's just. I just want her to like me for my person. I don't want her to take it for my money. So he spends all his money to look like Hans and fucking. Hans has the money now and she's with Hans. She's like, well, he's you know.
Speaker 2So she went after the old guy anyway, gross See, I never saw that one, that was very Twilight Zone-like. Dude, I would have choked the hell out of her with Hans' body, see, because he had the money. Yeah, little shit. Wow, that's great man. I Wow, that's great man. I don't remember a lot of the episodes like that, but yeah man, I loved it. Like I said, I know the movie. What about the?
Speaker 3one where the guy and I think you show me this one, it's where the guy he meets this girl. It's Halloween and she's got this crazy mask on.
Speaker 1And he goes back to her place.
Speaker 3And she winds up being it's actually her face, face and she winds up stealing his face.
Horror Movies Through Time
Speaker 1I think right. And then they crypt or was that. I thought that was tales of crypt. I think it was our. It was something. One of those hbo shows right, I don't know if it's, but yeah, she had like, it was like oh, we're gonna keep it a secret, we're not gonna tell each other our names, we're not gonna work telling, and she's like wearing this mask and like, but she's like, she's like a nymphomaniac, yeah, like, like, and to the point where he's like what the fuck?
Speaker 3is going on.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know what I mean and like, and he goes and he's, he's, and he's like, joking, like. No, we kept the promise, you, because he took off his mask. She got all pissed. He went to the bathroom. There's all of medication but all her names ripped off of everything.
Speaker 2It was so weird, he went to go rip her mask off and her face started bleeding.
Speaker 3Oh snap, she started laughing.
Speaker 2I was like oh, yeah, you see, dude, yeah, it's them one-night stands, they be getting you.
Speaker 1It's not good.
Speaker 2That's no, I can't say I remember. I remember the movie like the Creepshow movie and the Tales from the Crypt, stuff like that. I love the anthology stuff. Yeah, those are pretty good, because now the new anthology thing is American Horror Story. Oh yes.
Speaker 1Yeah, have you seen those?
Speaker 3Well, that's more like a yeah.
Speaker 2Well, I guess it's an anthology series right, right, it's seasons, it's series, anthology series, right, where it's like seasons, because each season is a different story, none of them have to do with anything with the one before and some of them are, like now, famous, you know, like more famous stories yeah yeah, um, what was I gonna say had something to do with, uh, tales of the crypt, tales, oh, you know what was originally supposed to be an anthology but they screwed up.
Speaker 1It's the halloween movies. Oh really, oh yeah, that's why Halloween there. If Halloween two didn't exist, halloween three, when people would have been like, oh okay, it's a different movie. Right Like, because what they did was they did Halloween two and that continued the Michael Myers yeah. And then they did three with a different story, with the mask.
Speaker 3And, by the way, that movie I think it's underrated.
Speaker 1Well, so here's the thing, If it wasn't called Halloween, I think it would be good.
Speaker 2Fair enough, right. Fair enough, yes, because I was looking for that.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're looking for the Michael Myers. What the fuck is going on here.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know who the hell is this? Yeah, it was wild because now and you know what's funny?
Speaker 2yeah, because now I look at everything, like I look at all the stuff, they're like oh yeah, could this be? Could that be? Because then, you know, fast forward. But I'm gonna tell you why they're funny. Because if we change up the the kind of movie altogether, um, there's a movie called the kingsman and the bad guy in the movie was sammy l and he gave everybody free cell phones and there was a certain frequency that went through the cell phone that made everybody fight and beat each other up. So that's what I'm saying. So now the old Halloween movie. I'm like, could that be for real, could it really happen? I'm just saying but it was good, though, like I said, it was a good story if they didn't call it, if it wasn't named Halloween. Well, what movie would you think?
Speaker 3of when you think of Halloween. You're going to always think of Halloween, the very first one, right?
Speaker 1Yeah, Michael Myers.
Speaker 3Right, michael Myers, yeah, yeah, what about you? Yeah, If. I would think of that, yeah, for Halloween, because the first thing you put on your head Halloween. What do you think of?
Speaker 2Yeah, you see in my head. Yeah, well, I mean, as far as Halloween, I'm on Friday, the 13th.
Speaker 3That's a classic, though. Yeah, that's where I'm at.
Speaker 1Yeah, friday the 13th, the Nightmare on Elm Street movies. Nightmare on Elm Street movies. Do you know what I liked about the Nightmare on Elm Street movies is they were always so creative. Yeah, you know what I mean and they would. They like that. You had your slasher, but the difference was is that this slasher always talked. It's always a mute. They never talk at all. You know Texas Chainsaw.
Speaker 3Massacre you got. Those are creepy man, you know.
Speaker 1The Friday 13th movies. None of them talk. But right, he talked.
Speaker 2And he not only talk, he yeah, yeah, but he was a dream world and he was a little bit of a joker too.
Speaker 1There was a little bit of humor put in there, right, you know he was freaking nails.
Speaker 2Yeah, dude that first one.
Speaker 3I think the first one is probably the scariest the blades on his finger.
Speaker 2You know which?
Speaker 1one creeped me out the most, it just because it was so nightmare fodder. You know what I mean is like the one where, uh, like he's like, like he his arms pull off and he's got like a, he turns into a cockroach and then, oh yeah, squishes the thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one, that dream warriors I think that was dream warriors, yeah, with all the kids. That the kids uh all like they were all connected and they were, uh, they were in the um in the psych hospital, yeah, yeah, yeah that was. I think that was that one. Listen. So now I was asking earlier. We all know the slasher movies to be like the horror. You know, and I remember AMC, they do a top 100. And one of the top 10 was a movie I didn't even think about, but it was Clockwork Orange. Oh, clockwork Orange was a demented clockwork orange was. It was a right minted movie, but was it more like psycho thriller or would that?
Speaker 3be considered.
Speaker 1You know I'm saying like yeah right, that's what I'm saying. I did call it a little bit yeah, I know right.
Speaker 2Even looking at them when you watch people like that's probably one of the coolest giant, like sculpture dildo yeah, bro, listen, that movie is one of those like if that's a costume to wear, that people like, like that would throw people off.
Speaker 3Like whoa whoa, oh, it's funny that you should bring that up so real quick sidebar. So my wife is making signs for this Halloween thing they're going to be doing for the yeah, yeah, For the community, right. So I'm like, oh, you got to make me a sign. She's like so, you got to put the sign up. She's like what? I'm like laces out In red canes.
Speaker 2I remember because me and you used to joke around about that at work all the time. I don't know why. I used to do that all the time. I bring up old movies all the time, but that is a hard bit. Laces out, laces out, right yeah, look yeah.
Speaker 1The little footballs.
Speaker 2Yes, yes. Now tell everybody what the movie is. Ace Ventura, of course. There you go.
Speaker 3There you go, dan Marino Laces out, that's great.
Speaker 2Yeah, dude, that's funny.
Speaker 3Diagon Alley and Rotten Hell yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, but unfortunately that's a.
Speaker 3Halloween thing Because of the music they play in that part. So I'm like and it looks cool. Laces out, and if you do it in the same letters that you do paint. She's like you're crazy.
Speaker 2Just do it, somebody will get it.
Speaker 3Somebody will get it yeah.
Speaker 2Somebody will get it.
Speaker 3They'll pick it up.
Speaker 2There's a lot more East Ventura fans than you think.
Speaker 3That is freaking hilarious man.
Speaker 2That is funny. Here's another one, right 1973.
Speaker 3All right, it was not just about scares. It was about storytelling and the way it taps into the deep psychological fears. The Exorcist was one of the first horror movies to get a serious Oscar attention, making a must-see for anyone who loves classic horror. Let me tell you something.
The Shining
Speaker 2I've seen that movie man, yeah, which one? Exorcist, exorcist, exorcist. The original Linda Blair, the original.
Speaker 3Yeah, now did you see when they remastered it and they put the other parts in the when she's walking down the stairs backwards. Yeah, she was walking down the stairs backwards and shit oh snap.
Speaker 1And that was actually going about that scene more than the vomit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like that would have scared the shit.
Speaker 3Yeah, now you know, I don't know why they didn't put that. They were probably worried that back then that that would have scared people worse. Yeah, maybe they were worried about it. Maybe they were like maybe that's a little too far, that's too much. And then you know years later they're like they could have been the one to set the standard too.
Speaker 2Yeah, well yeah, well, they did, bro, they did because think of all the things that she did oh, dude, it would have been freaking bananas, dude, because the vomit scene would, would be anywhere as close to that.
Speaker 3Yeah, you know what I mean, because that would be scary as shit. Yeah, that movie was scary, well even too.
Speaker 2I mean, listen, I'm just the idea of being possessed and her just levitating over the bed like that. You know what I'm saying? That right, there was like that, what the living, yeah, the head turning. Wow was the other thing, bro, yeah, yeah, no, listen, that movie when she turns to him and she starts talking to him in his mom's voice.
Speaker 1Mom's voice and also the craziest yeah, he did the craziest shit she would say, though yeah, remember, she was first she's like you know, you want me.
Speaker 3And then she took the crucifix and she stabbed me on the goose.
Speaker 2Yeah, fuck me, fuck me, fuck me.
Speaker 1I was like what the hell, I love this shit. Now you know what's funny. I'm going to tell you the crazy shit.
Speaker 2Because I watched that movie. So of course I didn't see the 73. That movie, so I didn't see it of course in 73, because I was like three, two years old when the shit came out. You know, yeah, but I watched it, you know, in my early teens and I watched it on hbo, sitting on the floor of my godmother's house ready eating a bowl of spaghetti.
Speaker 3I watched the whole flick just eating a bowl of spaghetti and I was sitting there and I was like yeah, my cousin, I remember my cousin john telling me the story of the movie and he, I remember when he I was little my cousin John was already like a teenager right and I was like a little kid and he was telling me when he they would babysit us and everything.
Speaker 3so he would talk to us and I would want him to tell me because I wanted to know, because into that stuff, you know, it was crazy stuff, you know. So him just telling me the story and then when I actually saw the movie it was like oh, he did a good job. You know, I was like all right, that's freaking hilarious bro.
Speaker 1And speaking of Kubrick, you know what my favorite horror movie is.
Speaker 2Alien Shining, oh the Shining, yeah, oh yeah, absolutely Hands down man, my, my wife hates that.
Speaker 3I go. How do you like your favorite movies? I?
Speaker 1know I've been trying to get a terrible watch. She's never seen it. My favorite thing about that movie is now is that you can go back to that movie and it's still fucking good. And not only that is it good. There's things that you pick up.
Speaker 2You didn't like the scene when he's riding the tricycle.
Speaker 1Before he sees the twins. Oh, the big wheel.
Speaker 2It was a big wheel. The big wheel, or the twins, were on the tricycles right.
Speaker 1But he's riding the big wheel and if you follow where he's going, he should be back in the main lobby and he's not. That's right. It's all disorienting where he is. And I never paid no mind to that.
Speaker 3Yeah, and then he sees that, and they're actually not the grady, the grady sisters, they're not twins.
Speaker 1They look like twins. They're actually in the story. They're two years apart really.
Speaker 2Yeah, they're they know that, but they're, so they're irish twins, but yeah, they're like two years apart. Those chicks right there, that alone, bro them two little kids listen. And if you, look at them.
Speaker 1Now. You look at them, you go, oh wait, they're not twins. Yeah, then they look slightly different. Yeah, they actually have a picture of them. Now you look at them, you go, oh wait, they're not twins. Yeah.
Speaker 3But then they look slightly different. Yeah, they actually have a picture of them now. They're old ladies, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, I saw that. I saw that recently.
Speaker 3So it's pretty crazy. Yeah that's insane. That movie was off the hook because he just snaps.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3You know they get they. Just she goes out the room and she sees the people in the animal costumes. Yeah, man, one's laying on the bed and the other one's on his knees. That listen and he gets I mean look, and one looks like he was getting another one like a BJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's exactly what it was. It's a twisted movie.
Speaker 2It's twisted, it's very. It's psychological horror. You're in hell, man I. That shit is insane, bro. It's psychological horror. You're in hell, man I think that's what it is.
Speaker 1There's like a gateway to hell.
Speaker 3This is a yeah, Now welcome to this room.
Speaker 2Yeah, would you go visit? Is that what you're writing? Yes, yeah, it's a real hotel, but it's not haunted.
Speaker 3You mean just to go there for the day and then I can leave?
Speaker 2No, no, if I remember correctly, the place is not haunted, it was just because that's where. What's his name? He?
Speaker 3wrote, it'd still be creepy as shit, oh yeah.
Speaker 1So when he wrote that story he was in two different places, right, he first was up here.
Speaker 2Yes, in Mohonk.
Speaker 3I did not know that.
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, and that's where he got this ride. If you ever actually drove to the hotel, it's a long, windy road, yep, and so that he describes that in the book in the story, right, the long windy road, right. So that's from that.
Speaker 2But then he spent the second half writing the book in that place in Colorado, right, or whatever it is now, because you could go there, you could stay there. I said the place isn't haunted Right, of course. Have you ever been to Mohonk, either one of you guys? Yeah, have you been inside of it?
Speaker 1Yeah, I actually spent a night there, it was expensive.
Speaker 2Dude, that place looks fucking scary as hell, I'm sure Like just from the outside it's got to be. Oh, dude, and I spent time there in the winter too, what? Bro listen Gorgeous If anybody out there?
Speaker 3Longhawk Mountain is beautiful.
Speaker 2Yo, it's awesome. They got the guided tours and, like you said, off the trails and stuff it's gorgeous. But when you stop and you're looking at the hotel sitting on the water like that man, it kind of like it almost sends a chill down your spine. They have no TVs in there so you hear everything that's going on. You know what I mean like oh you know what?
Speaker 1yeah, that's what there's. Yeah you know what, um, and they, they also filmed that uh show on amazon prime, the one where oh, yeah, um reboot, or was it?
Speaker 2no, it's a tv show upload. Yep, upload was there. And uh, robin williams film was movie with ed that he was the doctor. Um not, is it patch? Adams the name of it. I think it was that he was I think that's the one that they filmed there at mohanko also. There's a bunch of stuff that has been going on, yeah yeah, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that's gone up. That happened there, but yeah, man.
Speaker 1Shining though man the Shining is definitely one of those serious, serious, absolutely that movie is still scary yeah, it is, it's not the kind of scary where you're like, oh, that guy's going to get me.
Speaker 2You're just like that's what I'm saying, bro. Looking around, you know, is this blood going to start coming out of his mouth, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3Or you know, there's someone in your tub, yeah, who has to look Red rum.
Speaker 1You know, Red rum. Yes, she's going to start going red rum.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. That's insane. Listen, but that's what I'm saying. So then that would be. I'm gonna say that that would be more of a psychological thriller, because it wasn't like a slasher, you know, it was just messing with your mind. You know what I mean. I'm gonna bash your fucking brains.
Speaker 1That's basically what he said, but I feel like making a slasher film and not slasher psychological horror requires a lot, a lot of craft yeah man, I see the slasher just got to chase you.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1It's a lot more work to write that.
Horror Movie Chit Chat
Speaker 3Do you ever see behind the scenes of when they're getting ready, before they do the scene for that movie, that particular movie. Like the one where he puts the axe through the door. Yeah, they show what he's doing before he does the scene. He's getting himself all Really Trying to get crazy Getting himself all pumped up, getting ready to grow, like getting his blood. He's getting the juices going. You can see him get prepping, so when he gets to the scene and then you're like wow.
Speaker 2Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3Getting that mindset. But you're only acting.
Speaker 2But, man, when you watch it, you're only acting, but man, when you watch it, you're like wow, that is and you know, and I would say, like so, with the Mike Myers and the Jason Voorhees and even the Freddy Krueger you know the Friday the 13th was the first movie was a good movie yeah, but then what I was going?
Speaker 3to say was that they started to get.
Speaker 2Jumping out of the water, Right, but they started to get, I guess you know, after like the third, fourth one they got funny Because then he was doing like different shit in it.
Speaker 3It was just stupid, it was just yeah.
Speaker 2Because, like I remember which number I think it was Friday the 13th and Jason they turn around and he gets up on these kids and they're camping or whatever and he got the one girl that ended up staying in the in the sleeping bag. He picks it up, he swings it and he starts beating it against the freaking.
Speaker 1But it was funny, it wasn't like a scary like oh my God, what happened so randomly? Uh, jason Voorhees, they never explained where he got it from. He's just holding a fucking Kwan Dow when he got it from he's just holding a fucking Quan Dao.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah. That Chinese weapon Right when it come from. Yeah, no one knows. Nobody saw it, he just poofed it into his head.
Speaker 1He just randomly had it Just right there. It's like the director's like yo. It's gonna be like a Chinese weapon.
Speaker 3Yeah just hold on to this shit yeah.
Speaker 2Like it was the one Jason. Was it Jason X that he was in space? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they brought him back. So did you watch that far in the things, oh God, no.
Speaker 3So dig it. I definitely stopped.
Speaker 2At a certain point I stopped Well what had happened was that they turned him around and, because he was such a menace, he kept coming back to life or whatever they sent him out into space. You know another spaceship out there. They're salvagers and they go and they find the thing that the, what, the? The spaceship that that he was in and he's all broken up in different, you know bodies falling apart, blah, blah, blah, rah, rah, rah, nanobots come, they attach to him and he ends up being like a super jason, and now they're trying to kill him in freaking space bro like it got.
Speaker 2So that's what I'm saying. It got. It got crazy out there. You know it was so bad. Yeah, it was just too much. But, mike myers, they brought it back.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah they, they tried to bring it back to the horror they did, but the last couple movies I just uh because they try to make it more story.
Speaker 2Did you see the rob zombie versions? I saw the first one.
Speaker 1I liked the second one. I liked the first one. I thought the first one was done really well.
Speaker 3But then the second one kind of it was okay it wasn't nowhere close to what the other one was. The story was kind of weird right, well see now what about you?
Speaker 1you think, the same thing yeah, yeah, I understand he was trying to take his own artistic approach right, yeah, but it was just too much.
Speaker 2Well, I mean, what about Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Because he redid that and that one was kind of crazy. I was like, ooh, but that was also in, I'm going to say, the idea of the Hills have Eyes. Yeah, you know, it was like don't take those trips down those lonely desert roads into those little towns, because this could happen. And it was that kind of you know, no. I'm going to see it.
Speaker 1Oh, you know what movie I like, though what's it they're.
Speaker 2Back. Oh yeah, that was Poltergeist, poltergeist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have exercise to do?
Speaker 3Yeah, I think it's fucking cheap carry yeah. Yeah, I have exercise.
Speaker 2See, now, that's funny bro. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3Because they were lame.
Speaker 1But this house Is, yeah, that movie I used to see that. I was a little kid All the time. Yeah.
Speaker 2Freak me the braces.
Speaker 3The scene with the braces.
Speaker 2Oh yes.
Speaker 1There was so many I forgot about that. Again, they took a lot of.
Speaker 3What the post guys With that movie? Yeah, they went, yes.
Speaker 1The freaking tequila worm.
Speaker 2Yes, Dude when he vomits that up. But that's the second movie, isn't it? No, that's the second, or the?
Speaker 1third. That's the second one. The third one is when they're in the.
Speaker 3In the high rise.
Speaker 1Yeah the penthouse or whatever that is.
Speaker 2Listen, that was even spooky in itself, because you're in a high rise now and there's nowhere to fucking go. Like you know you're. You're upstairs, bro, you're stuck, you can't go nowhere.
Speaker 1You know what the creepiest is? That old man Dude, yeah, the pastor.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was super. That gave me the chills, bro. Yeah, that old man was it. Yeah.
Speaker 3I just saw the most disturbing movie with oh God, what else is his name? Anyway, it was called Legs, Long Legs, Long Legs. It's on-.
Speaker 1Daddy Long Legs no.
Speaker 3It's with Nick, who was the guy who was in Full Metal Jacket. No, oh my God, I can't believe it. Anyway, I'll look it up. Anyway, there was this movie that was on. It was super demented on cable. I was watching it. I think it was called Long Legs. I'm going to look it up right now.
Speaker 2You guys continue, yeah yeah, yeah, what's his name, Not what's his name. The movie you said, nicolas Cage, oh, nicolas Cage? No, I didn't see that. I didn't even see that. Yeah, one. There's just so many movies, man, that you just think about, like I said, and it just builds up what you want to consider the horror movie, like the super slasher, because there was leprechaun oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like leprechaun was like a funny killer slasher movie.
Speaker 3There was a lot of humor in that. Yeah, you know long legs it's on. Um what's it on, is it? I don't know.
Speaker 2Netflix, netflix, yeah, netflix.
Speaker 3Yeah, dude, this movie was super. It was About people who worship Satan and this police officer who's trying to figure out what's going on. And all these crazy crimes Are going on and murders and stuff.
Speaker 1Oh, I think I remember that, yeah, and he Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 3This is Nicholas Cage. Look at that. No way, dude, that's a way he did this movie this movie was off the hook disturbing Legs.
Speaker 2It's called yeah Well, I'm going to have to watch it then Long Legs is what it's called Long Legs. Okay, I'm going to check that out.
Speaker 3Yeah, check it out. Now, I'm telling you, tell me what you think of it. Now, justin, my stepson creepy, weird and usually I I get into stuff but he said did you notice this? He found easter eggs in the movie that I didn't know. Right, I'm like no, I didn't see that. No, I didn't see that. You know, I think it was more just like taking it back by the movie, but like yeah, what am I?
Speaker 2watching right now, right right it just messed with my head kind of thing. It was weird. No, sit, I'm going to watch it for easter eggs. I'm going to talk to him. I see it there's.
Speaker 1Then there's so many different zombie movies that are you.
Speaker 3There are classics, my favorite well, the uh, the original one right um night of living dead dead, which is black and white right classic.
Speaker 2Yeah, all this and sucks the way, he dies at the end, right. So now the remake of that one was the one that they did that at the mall, because they had that group return.
Speaker 1No, that that was Return of. No, that was Something.
Speaker 2Dawn of the Dead, dawn of the Dead, something like that. Yeah, it was like the remake of that was With the crew trying to get to different places and everybody together If you get in the mall you can get yourself hooked up in there. You're good man.
Speaker 1Yeah, dude listen because they were intelligent.
Speaker 3Yeah, right, so I'm going to probably talk about it on the show before but that's my favorite thing is because they could talk.
Speaker 1Yeah, remember that.
Speaker 2Send more cops. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fucking brains More brains by that time.
Speaker 3you know, I know, I know. But you know what I liked. I like it now. I know, I know.
Speaker 1I liked it because it was a little scarier, because they can plot Right and they would run after you.
Speaker 3Can they run fast now?
Speaker 2Yeah, they can run Wonderful World War. Z the zombies were running.
Speaker 3See now, but I like the way they did it. The story was different, it wasn't the normal.
Speaker 2Yeah, and that's how exactly.
Speaker 3Oh, the way the story went as far as you know how it preyed on people and those who knew, those who were sick yes, that was so fucking cool go after. Yeah, if we'd only go after the ones that were healthy, yep, which was like wow, wow, yeah, I don't know if this would be considered a classic.
Speaker 1It might. It'll probably be one day, but the 28 days, 28 weeks later, yes that was those zombie movies were because they weren't really zombies right, just like infected with this virus yeah, made them do to them. Shit, yeah, people like, just like, yeah, become crazy, like right angry.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was, that was crazy.
Speaker 1They weren't. They weren't really zombies, or they they were.
Speaker 2But they were like rage zombies, yeah because then it went away. Yeah, like it was just like, then it just stopped, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, that's yeah, that was kind of freaky. I took it more like vampire flick. Honestly, you know, Okay, you know, but then even now too, vampire movies aren't even that kind of scary. You know, Like you took what's the first one, Nesperado.
Speaker 1Nosferatu.
Speaker 2Yeah, that one, yeah, that one. You know that was a spooky one, you know, because it was, yeah, like the fingers and all that shit. So that was like, you know, that was a little bit out there, so that was that kind of scary back for then, you know. But now it's like, you know, you're thinking Blade now, you know.
Speaker 3The thing with vampire movies is they like romanticized it.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it's so creepy yeah, the only one I think they really did well was the one with um. They made a series on fx I forget what it was called. I actually had got.
Speaker 2I had the book yes, I read, I watched those like they were just like these. Yeah, they had the mouth opened up, all crazy yeah yeah, that was, and that's the thing too, though that's the new thing for that. Like a more of a, I watched those. They were like, they were just like these creatures. Yeah, they had the mouth opened up all crazy. Yeah, yeah, that was, and that's the thing too, though that's the new thing for that.
Speaker 1They tried to make that like more of a zombie, right?
Speaker 2Yeah, like a zombie, vampire shit or like a hybrid of some sort. Yeah, it was just an outbreak and this is what they turned into. And because that guy, he was in a couple of different other shows and I felt bad because they stereotyped him to be that same kind of character.
Speaker 1But the cool thing about I can't remember what the name of it was yeah, I know the show, but the thing I loved about it was like I had the book and like the book describes it so much differently. They like, every time someone walks into a room where there are, because they're like insects, they right, and they don't have control of their bowels, so it would just smell like like ammonia so you knew they were because they yeah because they basically made the vampires like insects right, yeah, yeah, they did.
Speaker 2Yeah, I've minded yep.
Speaker 1And then the guy the main one is controlling calling everything and everybody yeah, they have to try to get to him yeah telepathic.
Speaker 2Yeah, literally it was insane.
Speaker 1It was fucking fire and like he can he's jumped bodies like all he like, opened his mouth and just maggots and bugs, yeah filled into the other body and then he took over the other.
Classic Horror Movie Chit Chat
Speaker 2Yes, it was great, bro, it was. It was a good. It really was a well-made show.
Speaker 3It was sounds like the boogeyman from uh uh. What do you call it? The chris uh, that story, the um. The boogeyman from uh nightmare christmas. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah when I remember he lost the.
Speaker 1Yeah that's right. That's something they probably got the idea they're like yeah, maybe, right, we'll do that.
Speaker 2Yeah, listen, that was. That was a good one, you know, and don't forget about Chucky. Chucky bro. I was just watching the child's play. Listen. I'm gonna tell you what. Chucky was probably one of the scariest shits when they first came out, cause everything. And then they come up. I don't know.
Speaker 1I had a friend. She used to date Andy. He lived in New Jersey, I lived in Rochelle.
Speaker 3Park.
Speaker 1The next town over, but he was the kid who played him. That's awesome. We used to date him when he was a teenager. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2That's crazy, that's great man, that's funny. That's funny, she's mad. Now it's like, oh, we're going now. Yeah, what do you guys think of the movies? Like psycho, did you ever see that movie? See, but that's.
Speaker 3But now that's considered a thriller, though right, that's not a horror flick, it's yeah, it's a slasher movie oh, it is.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh, I wasn't sure how to come in. Like you know, he had a split personality no, no, I meant on what they did, like on the awards, the, the amas and stuff like that. You know, I thought that that was. Uh, it was a, like the birds, it's, it's on the list, like the.
Speaker 3Birds. It's on the list.
Speaker 2It's a flash movie, the.
Speaker 3Birds is a horror movie too.
Speaker 2Really, I didn't even know it was considered that it's a suspense film but it's definitely.
Speaker 1What's the director's name?
Speaker 3Alfred Hitchcock, alfred Hitchcock, yeah, yeah, yeah, hitch. And then you got the mel brooks version. You know high anxiety here's your paper here's your paper.
Speaker 2The ink is running down the tree, yeah, that's great man, that is funny, that is great I can't, you know.
Speaker 3That's where my mind goes. Yeah, I see that I think to the, to the middle, something with it yeah, yeah, in the 80s they made sequels to the psychoo movies. Right they added they actually had the original actor come back and they had him reprise the role and they made a different, and then they just went crazy with him.
Speaker 2Yeah, just got out of hand. Yeah, because then they turned around and tried to make an Origins show for him. Did you ever see that? Yeah, I was like oh, norman Bates, Norman.
Speaker 3That was crazy. Yes, mama. And then you know, I think the best part of that movie for me is when the psychiatrist at the end is explaining the whole split personality and how it worked with him. With him, he was his mother, and then it was just him at the same time. And he was having that conversation. Yeah, dude, I mean like right down the middle man.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's serious shit right there, that's abuse right there for sure. Now, I love Final Destinations. Those are good.
Speaker 1I love all the Final Destinations. I never drive behind a logging truck.
Speaker 2Dude, who are you telling? I'm glad we live out here Every time.
Speaker 3I'm behind one of them I get scared by all of them.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, the roller coaster had the roller coaster. Yeah, the wheel came off of the roller coaster.
Speaker 3I try not to think of that when I go on the roller coaster.
Speaker 2Yeah, you see, no but I talk about it. I'm like I hope the wheels stay on, like when that shit first came out. Bro, listen, we're on the roller coaster and my daughter's like dad to hold on to the wheels. Yeah, you know, to turn around now, when they're doing all these little joke things the people that work there and they're checking all the belts or whatever they'll drop a bolt or something or make something sound like it hit the bottom so you could think that something broke, like yo, what was?
Speaker 3that? What was that? Yeah, oh, that's the ones that usually like it's the drop one where they're like hang out your seat, don't sign up, and then they make them drop.
Speaker 2Yeah, that one that was funny sidebar together, bro. I saw this one dude. People were going bungee jumping and he gave the lady the end of it. He's like yo, was this the end that we had to tie up? And he gets it. So she's like what? And he pushed her and she's like freaking, freaking bullshit, that's messed up. I was like that is so wrong man that's messed up so wrong absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3Now don't forget Scream, but I see, now Scream is way.
Speaker 2Scrooge 1996. I wonder if he did that because, the lady was.
Speaker 3Wes.
Speaker 1Craven movie it was like nasty, like he was a bad customer.
Speaker 2Yeah, I kicked her up sorry, but yeah, scream.
Speaker 1So that was, he was a bad customer. Yeah, I kicked her up. Sorry, but yeah, scream.
Speaker 2So that was, that's a Wes Craven movie. Yes, now Wes Craven, he doesn't Scream. Oh yeah, see, now those were really fucking groovy man, because you know what you need. That was the first time, I think, that they did a tag team, that it was two dudes yes, you know what I mean. That were the killers, you know, and they switched up this way nobody knew it was them or whatever and then they were whooping each other's ass like they hit each other to make it seem like, because you know, like say, they stab each other too yeah, well, that was at the end of it.
Sci-Fi Horror Movie Discussions
Speaker 2Yeah, he's like oh bro, those are great. What makes?
Speaker 3you think who's thinking of this shit, man? Who's like yo listen and and, just you know. You know what I got a good idea for a movie or a book or whatever it might be.
Speaker 2So now think about this. Okay, here you have a dude that thinks like that, right, a man or woman, whatever that have those that they're writing these movies, they're doing the stories.
Speaker 2They have that kind of imagination, think about M Night Shyamalan, who has his daughter now and his daughter's writing these freaking super crazy thriller flicks and whatnot. Listen, m Night Shyamalan, he's got some awesome movies, bro. I haven't seen the daughter's flick yet. I'm not going to find it. It's like a year or two old already. But yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2Like you said, where's Craven? You know, it's that. What would just make you like bug out. That, that, what would just make you like bug out. Right, you know, like that's why I was asking about what it would be as a thriller. You know, does it? Is it considered a thriller? Because what was the one, um, uh, last house on the last house on the left? Yes, that was more like that thriller, shit, you know what I mean. It was like, oh, they're coming. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, yeah, it was that that crazy. Uh, jordan peele now he's got all those movies out, yeah, so you know, he's got us. You know, and that was insane get out. I didn't get to see all of get out yet. Was that good? Did you see that get?
Speaker 3out the first one. Yes, yeah, the movie yeah yeah, I saw it get out, that was that was a
Speaker 1spoiler alert it's that's the one where they're like using their other people's right, yes, it's always black people, I don't know what they never like. Explain that like they were just targeting black people.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, that was it wasn't it the fact that they were. They were good health and they were all very strong and that was the whole problem.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, that was yeah. Yeah, bro, listen, jordan pew is another one that he's after that movie was so good.
Speaker 3Dude, he's making me crazy, that movie. I was not a big fan, yeah no, only because it was that kind of mind thing.
Speaker 2Right, I love that. There's no other way to put it. It's a mind fuck movie. You got to watch it. Like what? What Made you think Black Mirror is like that? Yeah, uh-huh, black mirror mess with your mind. Yeah, sometimes I'm like I can't binge watch that show. It's yeah, no, no, no. That's one of those shows that that you just yeah shows that black mirror on netflix. Yeah, dude, you gotta watch it, just like it's like twilight zone, it's like horror yeah, horror twilight zone, but like but like psychological yeah, dude, like yeah, that's that shit.
Speaker 2You can't. You're going to have to watch it early. I'm being serious, bro, we're not even making fun of you Like. I had to watch it earlier in the day. So this way it would give me time to like my brain to decompress.
Speaker 3Yeah, bro, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2It was like holy shit.
Speaker 3I tried binge watching on my TV. Yeah, listen, some things will disturb you, man. You know what I mean. I remember like I always go back to this and I always say it. You've heard me say it on other podcasts Evil Dead.
Speaker 1Yep, that's a classic, one of my favorite and one of the movies that freaked me the F out when I saw it, man.
Speaker 3That was a good movie. Mm-hmm, you know what I mean. Yeah, excuse me. Yeah, that was a good movie.
Speaker 1You know what I mean. Yeah, excuse me, yeah. You know what was, Even though it was corny it wasn't corny, it's not really a horror movie, but at my video store that I used to go to because I used to go to Mom and Papa it was in the horror section and that was Faces of Death.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, I fucking Did you see that everybody got yo dude uh, faces of death. Yeah, you said it's not horror, so what they've done, so those who don't know, it was actual footage of people dying. Yeah, yeah, bro listen. Yeah, it was very disturbed, so I stopped after the third one, yeah only because the first one?
Speaker 2no, I watched I watched the first three my bad yeah, because what it was was that it was one thing when it was refilmed, like it was shit, that was happening and they caught it Right. It was another thing when they were actually there, watching these people, like they were waiting for them to actually do it, like now it was the new thing to roll while these people were dying like that. So that's why I stopped watching after three, because now, but yeah, so now the monkey head. So nobody, if anybody's ever heard that too, is the monkey head. That the people? It was. It's a delicacy out somewhere overseas, somewhere, I can't remember where it was, and they would have the monkey and then they put him in the hole in the table spinning around and he's got his head stuck. Yeah, and he's trying. It was, it wasn't that the table was spinning, he was trying to get get out because the top of the table locked him on his neck and they would hit him with that little hammer shit and just knock him in the head.
Speaker 3That will not screw you up for the rest of your life. Yeah, seeing something like that.
Speaker 2Yeah yeah, faces of Death was serious, and then it was funny because the narrator was in the morgue. So he's in the morgue and he's actually doing an autopsy while he's telling the stories and then, like this next gentleman, decided he wanted to take a leap off of whatever. He sounded just like an old school PSA thing. It was listen that movie, that was a documentary, whatever Faces of Death. But you're a dick, bro, cause now I'm gonna be thinking of Faces of Death.
Speaker 3You fucked me up now.
Speaker 2Yeah, I forgot about that yeah, faces of Death was bananas.
Speaker 3Yeah, thanks, tom, I'm a kick, then you know you ever get something in your head.
Speaker 2Yeah don't think about it. Yeah, don't think about it. No more, don't think about it, no more. Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, like I'm not stopping at the gas station in Jersey on the way home, bro, I'm going straight home. I'm scared now.
Speaker 3I would have to say for me also like the movies, like Alien Right.
Speaker 2So Alien was an official horror flick.
Speaker 1Sci-fi horror, I feel like that was like the first of its kind.
Speaker 3I'm sure there was something else Suspenseful as well.
Speaker 1Yeah, was there any other horror like science fiction?
Speaker 2Yeah, a bunch of them. A bunch of them, so I know what. I mean, when I think science fiction, I'm thinking more space yeah, um, yeah right technically well, the fly came out after right, but that wasn't a space one right, that was a sci-fi horror, but it wasn't in space or nothing like that was that after, or was that?
Speaker 1well, there was an old one too, wasn't there before?
Speaker 2oh, yeah, in in black and white. There was a fly that was in black and white, that's right so so. Jeff Goldblum was a remake Right.
Speaker 3Yeah, I got a whole list here. Yeah, so the For sure We'll go through it quick. So you got Alien 1979, right Right. Then you have the Thing.
Speaker 2Good movie. That was on a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1I saw it.
Speaker 2No, a couple me anyway, yeah it may have been um event horizon. That was, bro.
Speaker 3That was really good yeah, event horizon was a good movie was um my fuck.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was for sure, yeah, it was about it yeah, the fly, the fly, always great the terminator you have to do it, you have to Invasion of the Body Snatchers, bro, was that not Freaking awesome movie.
Speaker 3That was a crazy movie. Invasion of the Body Snatchers Was great.
Speaker 2Yeah, yup, you ever see the movie Scanners. I don't know if I've ever Asked you guys that yeah. The head explodes, whatever Cause, like yeah, I remember that that was crazy and I got pissed Because when their heads Blew up, the inside of their Whole shit Looked like a fucking pizza. Yeah, I know, when you took the cheese off.
Speaker 1I know, but that's what Made it freaky.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was like I didn't eat pizza For like two days Maybe.
Speaker 3Here's another one for you, tom what Predator. Yes, action packed Predator, yes, action-packed predator, you run ugly.
Speaker 2Dylan, you son of a bitch, that's awesome Under the Skin, do you guys remember that one? Under the Skin, under the Skin, no.
Speaker 3Unique, surreal take on sci-fi horror. This film stars Scarlett Johansson as an alien who prays. Oh yeah, I think I remember this Men in Scotland. It's eerie atmosphere and upsetting themes of alienation and inhuman consumption make it hauntingly memorable.
Speaker 2Never heard of it. Scarlett Johansson in it either. I don't remember that. I don't remember that one. The Mist, the Mist was fucking sweet bro.
Speaker 3That was a good movie. It's not on the list but we talked about the Mist, but back in the day, the Fog, the F. Remember, back in the day, the fog.
Speaker 2The fog. Yes, so that's right, Because the fog. I was like oh, this is like, and I thought that the mist was going to be like the fog. Did you ever see the fog? Yeah, yeah, I saw it in the theater. I saw it in the movie theater.
Speaker 1I'm trying to figure out which one was the mist. I'm getting confused. So the mist was the one?
Speaker 2Which one was? The fog and the like. This heavy super mist comes rolling in, and it was these monsters in there, and then they had these crazy monsters flying around and all that shit. So what it was is that it ended up being like there was a portal that was opened up between different planets or whatever.
Speaker 1You know what was good too, and that's obviously not a classic, because it's only a few years old is bird box I. There's another creature that could kill you. They were invisible, Apparently. If you could see them, and if you saw them, you went bananas.
Speaker 3You'd kill yourself. Yeah, exactly, right, right, right. Or kill other people Just run off a bridge.
Speaker 2Yeah, wait, that was Bird Box.
Speaker 1Oh yes, Because the happening was the same thing, it was Sanjibolik, so you couldn't look outside, you couldn't look out the window Right.
Speaker 2Because that's the way that they walked around, with their eyes covered Right, and then they wind up going. The place they wind up going to is a For blind people, For blind people yeah, mm-hmm, yeah, but the happening was kind of the same thing, because the movie Don Leguizamo, oh yeah.
Speaker 2That when the breeze would come, that the people they got, like whatever the pollen, it would affect certain people and they would end up doing certain things Like they were coming over this ridge and there was a guy who had his zero turn mower. Oh snap, that was quick. His zero turn motor, he turned it on, rigged it and then just lays down and the mower comes out, runs over him and stuff like that yeah, it was great, but, dude, that was quick, yeah, so that's our time today.
Future Halloween Episode Planning
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, we had fun with this. We'll do this again.
Speaker 3We got a couple episodes to do this month. So, being that we'll still be in the month of Halloween, we're going to do another episode, yeah.
Speaker 1So by the time we do another, yeah, we might even yeah, we got to do, yeah, that being said, Awesome.
Speaker 2So thank you everybody for listening. Love peace and hair grease. Live long and prosper and go vegan. Holla.
