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Exploring Cosmic Frontiers: Private Rocket Ventures, Martian Mysteries, and the Quest for Extraterrestrial Life
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What if the secrets of the universe were just a rocket ride away? Tune in to our latest episode, where we unravel the mysteries of private space exploration and the pioneering spirit of companies like SpaceX. We kick things off by demystifying the jaw-dropping technology behind SpaceX's rocket landings—picture a pair of cosmic pinchers catching a returning rocket. Our conversation takes a nostalgic turn as we reminisce about the space shuttle era, sparking a lively debate on the feasibility of launching shuttles mid-flight from a 747. Reflecting on the shifting landscape of space travel, we ponder whether the reduction in costs would tempt even the most risk-averse among us to boldly go where few have gone before.
Imagine a world where science fiction becomes reality, and humanity's next big leap includes food replicators and advanced propulsion systems. In this thought-provoking chapter, we delve into the potential future of space technology, from non-combustion propulsion that could revolutionize interplanetary travel to NASA's discoveries on Mars. Could Mars have once harbored life, and what secrets does the red planet still hold? We challenge you to keep an open mindset as we discuss the incredible possibilities on the horizon, all while contemplating how these advancements could reshape our understanding of the universe.
As we head into the realm of extraterrestrial life and space colonization, the conversation widens to include the prospects of life forms surviving in extreme environments beyond Earth. Drawing inspiration from NASA's Artemis program and the successes of the James Webb Space Telescope, we explore the ambitious goals of establishing a presence on the Moon and unearthing the universe's deep mysteries. Are we ready to explore the vastness of space and the potential it holds for understanding life? Join us for a captivating journey, celebrating humanity's achievements and the endless frontiers of space exploration.
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Private Space Exploration and Adventures
Speaker 1Welcome to Topping Profit and the Jersey Guy . I'm , lewis , here with Kenny and your favorite Jersey guy . Get ready for another round of real talk , crazy stories and everything in between . What's up going on , my friends ? Yes , you guys good . Yeah , cool stuff , all right .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's our new intro I'm digging it , I like it . Yeah , all right cool . I new intro I'm digging it , I like it . Yeah , all right cool , I like it I like it a lot a lot yeah yeah , yeah , there you go , all right , what's ? Up baby what's ?
Speaker 1our topic space exploration . It's good stuff coming a far away . They're coming , they're going pretty , uh , yeah , it's moving pretty quick .
Speaker 2Yeah , they are yeah , yeah , did you see the um the rocket come back from spacex . It came back and it landed in the way that it was described on the in the news . It was like it looked like pinchers right , yeah , just like slipped into it , like into the tower and , like the pinchers , caught it and held it and it was like I was like what , that's on here too , man , that was private space companies yeah , well , listen , that's the move man . That's where it's at , because you know they're not afraid to do whatever .
Speaker 2You know what I mean yeah , they still have to follow well I mean follow rule , but they're not afraid to , to push the , you know , the , the limits , right , you know they're like oh , we're gonna make exactly . You know they're . They're they like that ? Listen ? Yeah , you're right . They their whole point of view how to go about it and whatnot . As long as it's within safety parameters , nasa is gonna okay it .
Speaker 3You know what I mean yeah so yeah , and they retired the space shuttle ?
Speaker 1yeah , they did , man yeah , I remember when they were moving that thing and when they had to move it through people's like , yeah , through yeah , through the street , no way . Yeah , bro .
Speaker 2I remember that yeah you don't remember that ?
Speaker 1They paraded it right , Right With the special or something Right , they had to pull it to where they needed to go .
Speaker 2I think it was in a museum or something like that .
Speaker 1Yeah , I think one of them . I saw it before that got there .
Speaker 2Okay , yeah , nope , I saw it there .
Speaker 1I was pre .
Speaker 2Which one is it ? It wasn't Columbia . I can't remember the name of the other one .
Speaker 1But anyways , but yeah , no , but it was still cool .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's way crewy , and it doesn .
Speaker 3No because when I went to Kennedy Space Center as a kid and like , yeah , I remember those things were like shockingly small . I was like wow , they're like in this . The whole time I was like wow .
Speaker 2I don't have claustrophobic , but I think I might if I was in that thing , you think that thing's small , really , yeah , smaller than I thought it was going to be , really Smaller than what I assumed it was going to be , really Smaller than what I assumed it was going to be . All of them , all of them , yeah , yeah , yeah , they're just not as big as I thought they were .
Speaker 1Well , they've come far far away from that . And I will say and then was you know before it's time .
Speaker 2Yeah , they were ahead of their time . Oh wait , yes , definitely , definitely , you know , definitely , going through that moment , that's what was happening , right . But now when you look at it , you're like now we're doing this . That compare , yeah , you know , it's different . I always wondered , I never understood , I guess , because what I understood as far as physics is concerned , they would put it on top of the 747 and they would fly it from california to florida or whatever to transport it , to transport it right . My thing was why couldn't they just get that 747 to get closer to the stratosphere and then it take off on its own to get it through , instead of having to do it from ground , you know the three rockets , and jet it up ? It probably would have been , yeah , like that , you know I'm saying so . It was piggybacking on the airplane .
Speaker 3So why would it just ?
Speaker 2go from there Because .
Speaker 3I think the boosters are probably heavy as hell . Yeah , I don't know , man , yeah , probably .
Speaker 1Yeah , you might be right . Yeah , that's a lot of weight .
Speaker 2Yeah , and I just thought about that now .
Speaker 2So my you don't really think about it , though , when you don't realize , oh yeah , because I was like man , it should just take off from there and it wouldn't have to use so much fuel , it wouldn't be so expensive , blah , blah , blah . But that makes sense that everything else is super heavy . So heavy , yeah . But yeah , man . So , like you said a minute ago , you know it's private , it's the private space companies , or just private companies , that are the ones that are now pushing the envelope to , to get us into space . You know whether it's just , you know , few times around the earth , um , getting us to the moon , um , you know , hanging out in a space lab .
Speaker 1They're making it affordable for people to go back and forth . Yeah , just you know , now you can go to the moon or you can spend time in space , right ? Yep , you know it's pretty cool . Yeah , would you do it ?
Speaker 3I don't know I mean if I had the money why not ?
Speaker 1I mean , I don't think I'd be good at it , I think I that I'm not a risk taker , but I think for that .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , yeah I think I'd be like those people who are like let's go see the titanic yeah , yeah , yeah , you know that's , yeah , yeah maybe that would be the same thing would happen .
Speaker 2Yeah , no , I I would do it if it was like an airplane ride . What like ? If it was an airplane ride , like going from new york to california , like if it was just , you know , go up and you could walk around and float or whatever , without having that Cause they , so that you can do it in the airplane and you know it's the , it's gutted .
Speaker 2And as you go up no , I'm good now , but when the the airplane it goes up and down , it gives you that zero gravity , feel Right . But if I can do that , stay up and do this . You're all right with that . Yeah , one rotation around , but that there was room . I don't want it to be like we just said in the space shuttle was kind of small and then you're and then I'm stuck up there because now we can't come anywhere for three days . You know what I mean .
Speaker 2Because we're in space yeah hanging out that I would be like , ah , I would want to people in my shit right now yeah , in my space yeah yeah , that would be cool , but you know what it's well , you know what it is too .
Speaker 3It's like when you , when you watch the footage of people back in the day we're in the shuttle you're like , oh , they're in like a room right , oh no that's the whole thing . Yeah , I never realized that I always was like an assumption , like , oh , that's , they're like in a room , right ?
Speaker 2no , that is , that is the room yeah , it's like basically , it's like a just a tunnel on the inside of this thing , yeah , and I'm like , yeah , no , I'm good just watching it . I'm like I'm already like you know , I get that if I'm going in hanging out for like five , ten minutes right then I'm coming back , I'm good yeah , but even then I don't think I would last that long in space .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'd probably chuck it I hear you that makes sense . The same thing with the space station , because the space station is along the same thing . You know that it still is super like narrow and whatnot . Yeah , no , no they do it for months , man yeah , you hear about the two that are stuck in there until they came down right or did they ? I thought it was another no , I thought I read somewhere that well then I'm glad they came home , welcome back , glad you all are back , you know sure , I'm pretty sure .
Speaker 2So now that's right here , just orbiting the Earth . Do you think you'd be able to do it if there was , quote unquote , a little colony going on on the moon and or on Mars ? Do you think you'd be able to stay in those pods that they're showing ?
Speaker 1Yeah , what you mean , like those little cities Again .
Speaker 3Yeah , I feel like I'd be claustrophobic in that too , because I didn't have to be big you , because you there'd be no outside if you're building it , we're just like if you're there , living there , and you're with the people building it yeah probably be a different experience .
Speaker 1Think about it . Yeah , yeah , yeah , because it's your part of your life . This is what you do .
Speaker 2Yeah , I know I don't think I enjoy that , though I wouldn't yeah , I don't know well , no , because then the other thing , the issue is you getting there . So now you're going to be in that little space shuttle all claustrophobic . Now when you get there , you got to help build the pod or build the house or the hut or whatever that you know .
Speaker 3So I'm saying wow , yeah that's a lot interested in living on a planet where I can just go outside , which is no planet . You know like if there was an inhabitable planet where , like they made it inhabit , like they're like oh , we altered the ecosystem in Mars , right , and made it like inhabitable , like where I could be outside I'd be like hell yeah .
Speaker 2Okay , we'll say this . Let's say that the pods that they put , that they built for on the moon and or that could be potential for mars , yeah , okay , absolutely . Now , if it was the size of , like this and that room , so you have your room , your space here , you know area , you have a bedroom or whatever where you know your living quarters are going to be sizable . If you will right to right To go outside , all you got to do is put on a space suit .
Speaker 2Yeah yeah , yeah . Do you think you'd be able to handle that ? I don't know . Yeah .
Speaker 1Maybe one time .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1I don't think I want to go again .
Speaker 2I don't know man . I think that way's good yeah For a little me Well I guess spec , not even a spec not in space , yeah , not in space , my friend well , how far do you think you'd be able to handle if there was , if it was an , an airline kind ?
Speaker 1of ride . I think it would be cool as hell . I don't think I'd be able to withstand it because I would be nauseous even in space .
Speaker 2You think you'd be nauseous ?
Speaker 1oh I know , because I did that stupid ride and I think it was Disney or something and it was like mimicking what space would be like when you're on this thing . And boy , I lasted through it , but I got close . I mean the whole idea sounds cool . I was like I don't like the way that felt .
Speaker 3I just don't want to live in space .
Speaker 2That's what it is right based for living in space ?
Speaker 1not so much right yeah , yeah , I get that . I just say , on the moon maybe , yeah , if they really do colonize it and things like that . I mean that would be cool yeah , but that's what I'm saying .
Speaker 2Said , so my my personal . Why should them to do that ?
Speaker 1So because of all , they say that they should have no problem .
Speaker 2Just tunneling it , Are we ? But are we talking ? So now we get environmentally correct . Now here we are . We're drilling and doing everything that we're doing here to planet earth Right Now to go and do it to the moon .
Speaker 1You got to do it green , that's , to planet earth right now to go and do it to the moon , you gotta do it green , that's .
Speaker 2That's where the uh you know that's , you have to do that . Yeah , right , you have to do that , do it the right way there , but what's there that we would like really need if we're going green here , like what would we have ? To bring back . You know what I'm saying , so that would be I get it . It's just the fact that you could travel there and live there then that you know , now it's got it's going to be the crazy part . You know you ever have you seen that movie , the martian ?
Speaker 2yeah , that was really good , right , so now look at all that he did himself at the end yeah , right , yeah .
Speaker 2So now think of if we had to do something not just that kind of drastic , but living on the moon right , you know we'd have to do something not just that kind of drastic , but living on the moon , right , you know , we'd have to set something up for us to be able to grow food . Everybody would be vegan . So you'd be chilling , you know , because you wouldn't be able to , really , you wouldn't be able to farm any animals , really .
Speaker 3No , you know , honestly not enough space , and that would be so inefficient because you have to feed animals in order to kill them later Like the craziest thing .
Speaker 2that would be the only thing . Thank you , kenny , for bringing that up . I'm just saying .
Imagining the Future of Space Travel
Speaker 2Well , you got to get the mind right bro .
Speaker 1You got to get the head right , yeah , right . No , you got to get the head right . No , you got to have the head right . You know what I mean ?
Speaker 2Like that , yeah , you have to have your mindset that to understand You're gonna be Right now , you have to do it . Yeah , like these are all the things that would have to Absolutely Come through , you know , because the only thing you may Be able to have up there Are chickens for eggs .
Speaker 3Yeah , but you have to feed chickens so it's inefficient . Now you have to feed . There you go , right .
Speaker 2See , so then you wouldn't even there you go See , so you can't even do that , you know . So I mean , yeah , everybody's going vegan . You know what ? I'll try some vegan food .
Speaker 1Still , it doesn't matter as far as space is concerned . Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , what ?
Speaker 2do you mean ?
Speaker 1What you just said .
Speaker 2You know what we need , yeah .
Speaker 3The food replicator . There you go . That's it bro . Exactly Star Trek , Star Trek .
Speaker 1I'll have a steak with you . I was going to mention this Because it'll be vegan .
Speaker 2It'll be tofu , it'll just be replicated .
Speaker 3Yeah , it'll be the real thing .
Speaker 1It'll just be replicated , so no animal . I was actually going to mention this scientific . You know , like you know wife , you know sci-fi and that right the difference in the . You know the comparison . I was going to mention , and then it wound up just coming up , which was really cool . Yeah , no , always think when I look at what's happening now , you definitely say , yeah , it's getting kind of close to what we see in the movies and things like that .
Speaker 3Yeah , maybe I probably way better obviously .
Speaker 1Yeah , you know , not close in that sense , but I meant like figuring out a propulsion system that doesn't rely on on combustion a propulsion system I said , if they can figure out a propulsion system that doesn't require combustion , like that , like some .
Speaker 2I don't know like the anti-gravity that we haven't , yeah , like they haven't figured out yet , like what we believe that's like people see the ufos right like a move , like precision with like , not like anything that's defies that we have that can move in that manner at all .
Speaker 3No , because right now we're gonna figure out something like that we could just cut right out of the atmosphere with no like friction . Yeah , that would be like that . We would be able to like travel so far yes and so fast we could . We could go to you know jupiter in like 10 minutes , you know . Wow , can you imagine that ?
Speaker 1dude , or five minutes ? Yeah , two minutes could happen , I'm not gonna say it won't dude .
Speaker 2You know what ? Then that would be a trip worthwhile , because now we look at all the things that we've seen in movies and such , because you could take a short trip .
Speaker 3I don't know exactly I don't know if I would do it yeah you know , tell me how it goes .
Speaker 1Is this , is it gravity on the ship ? Yes , does it go out ? Not all the time ? Oh , I think stay .
Speaker 2Yeah , but if you have the boots , that are magnetic boots you could just and walk through the whatever you know . I'm just saying , bro , absolutely yeah . So now , nasa , so now we'll skip over a little bit . So , as of right now and I know because I followed them for a little while nasa had the um rovers on mars , came back with the coolest pictures , videos , all these things that they had over there , and , um , they even found water , frozen water . Yeah , okay , now that's not wild to think that that planet was a living planet many , many , many moons ago .
Speaker 1You know yeah , like it was just too close to the sun , right you know , that is what they said insane .
Speaker 2Insane because now you know it , you really want to just use your imagination
Extraterrestrial Life and Space Exploration
Speaker 2a little bit . What if there are really , uh , whatever life form living below the surface ? You know what I mean ?
Speaker 2I don't know if I go that far , but I would say maybe well , I'm talking find uh like you know , like they do here yeah , well , I'm talking like you know , maybe , like I'm not saying like a humanoid or something like that , I'm saying like maybe you know some kind of organisms , you know , um , some little bugs , uh , you know little animals or something like that that would be able to survive . I mean , think about it , here we have , there are little bugs , you know , little animals or something like that that would be able to survive . I mean , think about it , here we have , there are little bugs that survive in Antarctica .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2You know what I mean . And they're in the ice and they live in the ice . There's worms , there's things that are like the size of like beetles , you know , like medium sized beetles or whatnot .
Speaker 1Everything has its purpose .
Speaker 2Exactly , you know things that live out by the volcanoes right so then maybe there are that kind . That's what I mean . But I know that , like I don't think that , they do .
Speaker 3Oh , you mean on other planets , on other planets and stuff that you know that maybe it would be , but you know , I think it's . There's things that I you know , I'm sure there's things in space on other planets and other souls they're landing .
Speaker 1They're landing on asteroids , I mean , or is it um like ?
Speaker 3like the five laws of physics ? Yeah , maybe there's like yeah , like that . Or maybe you know , we , when we like , have our what is it ? Table of contents or what is it ? Called , not table of contents . What ?
Speaker 1The index elements oh yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , or whatever .
Speaker 3You know all the ? That's what we know for based on our planet , Right ? We don . You know all the ? That's what we know for based on our planet , right ?
Speaker 1we don't know if there's other metals or other natural elements on other planets , right , you know , and that goes . Different insects , right . Different life forms yes , can , it would be everything right it would be starting all over from the beginning again .
Speaker 3Yes , if you went there right , we're just so cocky about it . We're like , yeah , well , I guess not , because based on what we know about only this planet , we assume can exist in other planets , right right .
Speaker 1I hope they're not that naive and say because of what lives here is going to be there more than it's impossible maybe it was something different , right , but was their life they're not saying that I don't think they are . That it's that . It is human . It can be a different , a totally different life form that lived on that planet and now we're finding their remnants or what's left over .
Speaker 2You know what I mean ? Yeah , history , yeah , exactly .
Speaker 1Space history .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , dude , all day , all day . But that goes to what you were saying before you know about , we have now rovers that are digging , or you know , looking at the mining on asteroids . And before you know about , we have now rovers that are digging , or you know , looking at the mining on asteroids and whatnot . You know , they're mining .
Speaker 1They're landing on them and mining them , yeah , and then they release it and then take it off , yep .
Speaker 2Yeah , very cool , yep , because they want to know what's on them , because the other part of that too , that was a twofold thing Because I watched it on Nat Geo and what it was . I know it's already , I did that no , I watched it too , and they were saying they were looking for what they could . You know what kind of ore would be on that ? You know steel or platinum or whatever .
Speaker 1Or a different type of metal , of course , or element , right , is it an ?
Speaker 2element . Yeah , and then the other thing was also to see if they can land and anything on there , you know , like a droid , that they would land on their rover and that they would , um , uh , hit it with a couple of jets like and push it away from hitting earth and and or hitting anything like right near us . So then we wouldn't get the you know whatever little asteroids or whatever , were that the doomsday meteor coming , you know .
Speaker 3You know what's funny about asteroid fields in space ? An asteroid field looks like a lot Right . The thing people don't understand is those asteroids are hundreds of millions of miles apart from each other . They'll never . It's not like in the movies where , like , oh , we're going to go to the stars yeah , like three or four movies .
Speaker 2Yeah , right , right .
Speaker 3Yeah , like in Star Wars .
Speaker 2Yeah , like zigzag .
Speaker 1Are you sure ? No , I'm floating around Spinfest .
Speaker 2Comanche out of nowhere . Yeah , that's what the it's space man , Shit happens .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's funny .
Speaker 3It's just like asteroid fields it looks like a lot , but they're so far apart . Yeah , really . Yeah , they're more I believe that , that I do believe .
Speaker 1Yeah , there are they say look , how far we are from the moon , look how far we are from Mars . You realize , wow , that's pretty far . Yep far yep , and it's a long journey . Now I don't know if I want to do that and again .
Speaker 2You know it's one of those things not now in my life , I don't right well , but why not ?
Speaker 1now , because what I'm older now ?
Speaker 2exactly .
Speaker 1That's why I say I would do it , because I'm older I'm older now I'm gonna be a cyborg yeah , there we go the board , yeah yeah , no , but I'm sorry no , I'm saying that you know we have time now , that we don't want to just waste away and just , oh , you know what , let me go travel through space for 10 years .
Speaker 3No , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1I'm not doing that . I get that . Let me enjoy myself . I'm not saying you shouldn't , I'm saying I wouldn't , right , yeah , I'm saying if people feel they we should talk about the James Webb telescope . Well , I was . I was saving it for last . You were saving it for last . Yeah , yeah , yeah , okay , let's hold it . I was saving it for the last 15 , man .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , yeah , I don't want to jump ahead that much . I was with you . Yeah , I'm with you . I was like that's , I was going through the other stuff .
Speaker 1It's good stuff , man . What is going on with that thing ?
Speaker 3We'll get to it . I want to jump ahead . I apologize .
Speaker 1Well , no , no , no , sorry , just to land , land on an asteroid and to mine it , and then I believe it , you know , reports back .
Speaker 2whatever it is he picked up or it picked up whatever it is um , and they get the data , yeah , and they go from there and they figure it out now that's the other problem for me , because it takes so long , because it's so , if it's the one that I think you're talking about , it was out past jupiter and it had landed on a , uh , an asteroid , up that far out really , and and um impressive the um , the uh , the laser .
Speaker 2So they're using a laser pretty much to aim it back at earth and that's how we get the information . But because it takes so long that now it's out by pluto right before we even get the info back , right , you know what I mean . So it just shot out another three or four years before we got the info of what it did three years ago , right ?
Speaker 3you know what I mean that is .
Speaker 2That's the downside to me , that's the downside I don't know , I think it's getting better I don't think it's that long .
Speaker 1Really . Now the other planets , they're figuring it out . I think they got it down . It's gonna be impressive if they do this and they're able to go to mars . And people actually want to go , and I think they should . If this is something that you know , they truly you know it's in their blood , you know they're an astronaut , this is what they do , whatever they're in the military .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , right , exactly , you know . I mean , you know I'm thankful for those people to go and see , but yeah , dude , listen , that would be insane , like it would .
Speaker 2That would be one of those things I personally would like to see happen . I'm I wouldn't mind , like I said before , being able to take a ride out to the moon . You know , yeah , if it was like I said , you know , sitting in an airline , you know well , because what ? Uh , not spacex , uh , amazon , that he has that one , that it's like you're sitting in the and like his . Well , I don't have you seen his spaceship thing , the one that he's in the rocket . Because you're sitting in like a round room kind of thing , really , yeah , wow .
Speaker 2And so you're sitting in a round room because you're only going up . You know it's just sitting in the stratosphere and then you come back down , but you know it's pretty much what it is . So it's not like you claustrophobic sitting in whatever . You know it's pretty much what it is . So it's not like you claustrophobic sitting in whatever you know , which , again , is why it's even cooler that these um , very cool that these uh companies well , amazon , uh and and uh , spacex , that they're making these kind of spaceships . You know where people are going to be comfortable to go . You know you don't want to be sitting all crunched up and you know this super uncomfortable space suit or whatever you know . Matter of fact , they just made the space suit that is more form fitting .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 2So this way you would feel more comfortable . It's almost like a , it's tighter , yeah , yeah , like a fighter jet , a pilot A fighter pilot jet . A pilot fighter jet jet . You know what I mean you know , but you know it's a little bit more form-fitting and easier to move and that it's not so heavy and bulky like you know when armstrong went up into the , you know , into space and whatnot that big crazy listen .
Speaker 2Those people are brave as hell to do something like that yeah nature to you know what , all right , space cool yeah , there's a go right , you're right a million percent , a million percent , dude , that is awesome . You know , and you know even the people who did it first ?
Speaker 1who didn't know right ? That was experience first yeah , and everybody after them dude .
Speaker 2Um , I can't , can't imagine what that was like hell yeah , I'm scared thinking about that I'm good you know , but and I I would like to see them go back to the moon , you know , or those that believe that they went back to the moon the first time , that they went to the moon the first time , others that don't , but I would love to see that happen all over again .
Speaker 2You know , it would be really cool that , while they're up there , to prove that they were up there , that they would turn around and , like , set some , like put a light out , set like a strobe light , like a lighthouse , to show that they're up there , that the world could see that they're really up on the moon . You know what I mean , because people don't believe that yeah , right there . So they would be on the . If they can pull that off , yeah Well , because it's the , so the moon doesn't spin .
Speaker 3No , I know it stays fixed . That's just the right way to say it , so that then , if you just that's why we never see the dark side of the moon , exactly .
Speaker 2So that then if you just turn around and you have a nifty mirror , you know , I mean , you get what I'm saying .
Speaker 1yeah , I see what you know , I know exactly yeah , that would be .
Speaker 2That might be impressive . Yeah , I mean it doesn't have to be a huge mirror or whatever . But you know , think about it . They fold it out now you go camping exactly that .
Speaker 1This way people could see it . Yeah , you know , this time such and such is going to happen hell yeah , everybody would be outside and watch that shit .
Speaker 3You know it's probably on the dark side of the moon a lot of- .
Speaker 2The Transformers yeah yeah .
Speaker 1In the sky .
Speaker 3Like a lot of asteroid like , bigger like , because that's probably it gets hit more with asteroids Right on that backside .
Speaker 1Yeah , mm-hmm , yeah , so why do we want to ?
Speaker 2Why don't we send ?
Speaker 1something in to look at it .
Speaker 2Oh , definitely yeah , but that's what the reason for them trying to get and doing all these space tests is to get back over there so they can go and look on the dark side of the moon , probably .
Speaker 3Exactly , a lot more greater , because it probably gets hit all the time .
Speaker 1Yeah , oh , I'm sure , it probably gets it used to get hit a lot more than it does now .
Speaker 2Yeah it it probably gets it used to get hit a lot more than it does now . Yeah , it saved us from a lot of it's history .
Speaker 1It's history is . Yeah it's deep and , from what I understand , the farther away it's going to go from what I understand .
Speaker 2The moon yes , I thought it was coming closer .
Speaker 1No , it's going farther out .
Speaker 2Listen , listen , if you think about All the things that has happened on all the planets for the last 3 million years , and here we are and we've evolved to where we are in the past 5,000 years , if you know what I mean , that's pretty wild . And then , even with the people that believe that we're not the only ones yeah , oh , dude , yeah , I'm just saying , but that people don't believe that they could be life on another planet ?
Speaker 1listen , I think there is , but first . Why don't we fix what we got going on here ? Let's not get into that conversation , but do that here first . Why do we need to go somewhere else ? We're not doing it here , right ? Do it here first , then go somewhere else . Yeah , and do it .
Speaker 2No , true enough , I'm with you , bro , you know . I mean , yeah , I hear that it's gonna do right by .
Speaker 1By the way , lisa's out bro this guy lisa's out .
Speaker 2That is great , that is great . But yeah , man
Space Colonization and Telescope Discoveries
Speaker 2, it would be . I think it would be kind of cool , you know , and um , like we were saying before , you know there's a few , we sent out a few , uh , robots , probes , rovers , there's a program .
Speaker 1Nasa's artemis um program yep , now that one .
Speaker 2It didn't die out yet , right no .
Speaker 1So by late 2020 um present it would they hope by late 2020 we'll have presence on the moon , where we're actually there all the time that's cool .
Speaker 2You know what I mean that would be late 20s , right ? So yeah , so when that would be right now we're 24 right now I don't know what I mean .
Speaker 3That would be freaking cool when that would be right now . We're 24 right now . I wonder what the advantage would be . I wonder if there's something we could do . Listen , if they do it .
Speaker 1I'm all for it . Just do it smart , and they do . I don't think NASA's never really done a bad job of what they've done , some bad things have happened , but overall yeah , and heartbreaking of course have happened . I mean but overall I had , yeah and heartbreaking of course you know , but and and , and you know retrospect , you think ?
Speaker 3about it right it's .
Speaker 1They learn from it , they move on , they get better . They make sure they check this for now , on whatever's going on .
Speaker 3Fortunately , the fucking thing challenger was the o-ring and then , with columbia , was a loose ceramic tile . Yep , yeah , I didn't know that for years , that that that the the white and black on the on the shuttle right ceramic tiles , yeah yeah , the heat , yep to spread out the especially when it came in , because it came in belly first .
Speaker 1Yeah , yep , so the atmosphere never came in . It never came in those right in this way . Yeah , because this way keeps all the heat man , this way keeps it .
Speaker 2We said just like , yeah , well it it . Um , it spreads the heat . Yeah , this way , it's not in just under one spot , right it just ? Flares it out right so you know , still hot , but yeah , yeah , yeah , it's wild , but yeah , man , that's balls to do something like that ?
Speaker 1and what about the spacecraft ? Back in the day when they first came out , you know , when I was a kid , I I remember sitting and watching them land on the moon . You know that was crazy . I remember sitting there and watching it black and white . We're in an apartment , you know , from that time till now . Right , it's amazing where they've come Now . It's so much they could just send something out and it'll do the work for them . They can look and watch and see things with just the camera , right , so they don't necessarily have to be there To go there . Obviously , that would be great too . Yeah , yeah , yeah . But you want to do it right , right , you want to have a decent life . You're going to stay up there for a few years , there for a few years . You want to at least have some room to roam around .
Speaker 2So you're gonna need to build some shit , yeah , yep , yeah . The houses , the huts , the , the , just the living um tunnels it's like a hive of some sort right , yeah they , they look pretty groovy , you know they look really cool , you know .
Speaker 1But the thing is , you get storms up there , yeah , yeah , don't matter .
Speaker 2Well , that's the thing they're making them strong enough to where those little sandstorms wouldn't be able to .
Speaker 1I'm talking about Mars , yeah .
Speaker 2They're saying that the sandstorms that they have , that the hardest thing is going to be to keep the fine sand out , the fine dirt , the little rocks , because there's so many storms that happen that it's it's dusty , right , so it's almost like a talcum powder , it's that kind of thing . So then it's going to be , it's going to get into all the cracks and stuff and that's where the issues come in . They can build a structure where it'll be tight , you know , from the wind . You know what I mean , because that's why they have them , like the huts that they make them round . But it's just that sand that's going to be the hassle , you know .
Speaker 3Yeah , that makes sense .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's the crazy part . That's the crazy part , but yeah , that would be really groovy man If you know , like you said , by the late 2020s , for us to have colonization on the . What do you call it ? What did I miss ?
Speaker 1No , I'm laughing at myself . I apologize .
Speaker 2No , no , no , that you know , late 2020s .
Speaker 1Right , yeah , we'd be able to have that it's going to get better .
Speaker 3Oh , dude , that's going to be so freaking amazing .
Speaker 2That's going to be so amazing .
Speaker 1You can see that the technology is getting so much better . It's getting more intricate . They're figuring out other things now . Hopefully they do it the vegan way .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , no lie , no lie , of course . Yeah , no , I think that that's going to be the bomb and then . So now we could do the last 15 minutes .
Speaker 1Sure Telescope . Well , the telescope James Webb . Yes , this thing is amazing . He's found things that we thought we saw , and then when , when he took pictures .
Speaker 3Completely .
Speaker 1It was totally opposite Of what we thought it was gonna be , or it had a different the way it sees gases .
Speaker 3Oh it's crazy and stuff like that . It's just like this you just see , like this plume Of , like this orange Gas , and I think that might have to do with Light or with I think that might have to do with light , or with the but . I don't know , but it's like amazing it's freaking great , ain't it . It is so cool like .
Speaker 2My favorite picture is the pillars of creation . So it's those tall , long ones and just watching , just seeing how much better , clearer it looks , I'm like what , what ? And that's millions of years happening . That is still , you know , creating .
Speaker 3Well , that's the thing that I always found weird is when people say like , oh , you know , we looked millions of miles , millions of light years away and we don't see any planet that's inhabitable . But like , maybe it's not inhabitable . When we see it A hundred million years ago , when you looked at it Right , exactly Because we're seeing the past .
Speaker 2We're not seeing what's happening right now . We're not seeing what just happened .
Speaker 1No , Not at all Exactly . You're seeing the past .
Speaker 3It's the same as when you look at a star or anything else in the sky , because you're still light Right .
Speaker 2Still traveling , yeah , yeah , because what we ? We're not even seeing any . There's no stars except for the sun in our solar system . Light is what you perceive light .
Speaker 3So if you're seeing something that's that many light years away , light had to travel that far to send the picture back to your eyes .
Speaker 2That is how far away you're seeing . Yep , that's what I'm saying . So I think about you know us getting any kind of information . You know all of our stuff is . You know , way back when , Like they sent out back in the 60s and 70s , they were sending out records and on the satellites , um , with music and math equations and such on it , that by the time they get it , anybody , anything , any other civilization , will be able to decode it or open it or read it or whatever . You know that was back when we were dumber than we are now . I guess if that makes any sense in comparison to what it would be or could be , you know out there . You know we hear about UFOs . We don't see them coming .
Speaker 1Listen , I think space is amazing because it holds the key to everything you know . It helps you . You know , a lot of the stuff that's in the stars is where we come from , right yeah ?
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1Think about it , it's crazy . Yeah , so we're part of the universe , my friend .
Speaker 2Yeah , definitely that was way deep , that was super deep yeah .
Speaker 1It's too deep .
Speaker 2We're all coming from stardust , yeah , so now , what other things did we see that they discovered from the telescope ? Did you see anything else ? Because I saw a lot of the stuff . They took a lot of pictures of things that we saw before . It was this kind of high depth .
Speaker 3I just know that it's just the picture and quality and like , yeah , like it's like looking at , like a high depth , but like going from standard definition to like .
Speaker 2I apologize , yeah , no .
Speaker 3A thousand K .
Speaker 2Right , right , right . Yeah , listen , it's insane because it's further out too , and that was the other thing they wanted to do .
Speaker 1And another thing , and it's seeing stuff that had like we already said it had already happened , yeah , you know , and it's gone closest to the beginning we've ever come Right which ?
Speaker 3is mind blowing , which is crazy . You're like what is that ? Yes , it's what .
Speaker 1We don't even know what that gas is because we haven't even , like we haven't discovered it yet . You know , like it's just the colors and whatnot . And the james I don't mean it's the james webb telescope , jwst has , uh recently made remarkable discoveries , significantly advancing our understanding of the universe . Explode Exoplanet atmosphere , right See , you find planets that have that .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Right , they got all this distant galaxies and black holes , organic molecules in early universe , early universe .
Speaker 2Yeah , see , the black holes are the ones that scare me .
Speaker 1Early universe . Yeah , not late , mm-hmm , not in between , right .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , yeah , way beginning ones Yep , but that's what it's crazy . That's what scares me , though , too , because black holes in some of those spaces .
Speaker 2Well , they say she found a bunch of those as well , right , so there's one that's close to us here . So now it's just a matter of how , how long before it gets big enough that it starts to suck us in , because that might be why it is , and now that I say it out loud , I remember that being a thing that the moon is getting us , that we're spreading out , because , pulled in by like the gravity , you never know the gravitational pull of the black holes is what's pulling makes sense , but you would think we would get closer though , right , because they were all going to the same place , wasn't it ?
Speaker 2But don't forget , we have the sun . So because we're orbiting the sun , the closer we are to the sun is the stronger that the gravitational pull around the sun is . So then , those of us that are closer , don't go out and get pulled out as fast I guess is the easiest way to pull it Right . Don't go out and get pulled out as fast , I guess is the easiest way to pull it Right . So that's why I'm glad that the telescope can see that shit , because you know it doesn't make a difference , because we're going , we're going , it won't make a difference . You know what I mean ? It's over Right here .
Speaker 3So you were just saying black holes right , Distant galaxies and black holes . Humans won't even exist ? Yeah , Probably not . We're gone already . This is just our echo right now . What you see right now is just what happened .
Speaker 1Right right , we already did that , we already did this shit .
Exploring Space Discoveries and Discussions
Speaker 1Webb captured galaxies that formed shortly after the Big Bang , challenging existing models of galaxy formation . It also identified some of the earliest supermassive black holes , helping researchers better understand the universe on how the universe or massive structure , I should say evolved into young universe . There you go , into young universe .
Speaker 2Yep , wow , there it is . Yeah yeah , insane .
Speaker 3Yeah , insane , insane .
Speaker 2It would be just really cool if you know when we sent a rover out , when we took a picture of another planet .
Speaker 1Oh , they did that already .
Speaker 2That we would see somebody like wave back oh right , Wave back at it . On TV or something . Yeah , yeah , like that would be fantastic .
Speaker 1It could happen . Yeah , it could happen . That would be so cool .
Speaker 2You know , these pictures are from Mars .
Speaker 1Cool , you know . These pictures are from mars . These pictures are from the moon , yeah , pictures .
Speaker 3You know this video , yeah , but did you watch the documentary on that ?
Speaker 2no , I didn't see the whole documentary .
Speaker 3It's really good they in order to get that thing out there . Oh , it was amazing was they had so many practice missions on it because it had to open a certain way in a certain time frame , otherwise it was not going to work right . And they , they got it like I do remember perfectly and they had and they're doing they're piloting it from earth , right . So it's like really precise and the you know , there's like a radio delay on some of it , so you have to press the button .
Speaker 2It's like and wait , yeah , and like that I knew . Now question didn't they have a broken lens or something on it , or I think they had to fix it . Yeah , they had to change it up because it was concave . Then when they put it in , they put it in backwards .
Speaker 1So would they do something to fix it ? Yeah , I don't know .
Speaker 2I don't know if it was something or someone . I don't remember what it was . No , are you thinking ?
Speaker 1Hubble , or are you thinking the new one ? So ?
Speaker 2it's probably the Hubble .
Speaker 1It's the Hubble . It's the Hubble , yeah , but the new one , James Webb . That thing has gotten hit a couple times already , Right ? Yep , I saw that . All right , it's got dinged , but it's locked in where it's supposed to be . It's orbiting , you know , and that's where it's getting , you know . It's right where it needs to be to get those freaking pictures , man .
Speaker 3Can .
Speaker 1Imagine how far Dude , that's awesome , it's looking back , it's like wait , hold on . And you're like it must be amazing . When you see the pictures , you know what I mean . It's just crazy .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , they're beautiful and they were saying that the different spectrums of light that it's catching are wide as we get to see those gases and whatnot , you know .
Speaker 1Listen , bro , that that thing . I love all that stuff . I like watching , I like hearing it . You know it's it's , it goes pretty far back , man . Yeah , it does a bunch of stuff you know . So here it says a universe's expansion debate . Okay , I'm sorry . Guys have intensified discussions about the hubble constant , a measure of universe expansion rate . The telescope date has not resolved discrepancies between differences measurement methods , keeping this debate open among cosmologists , space I hope I pronounced that correctly .
Speaker 2Close enough .
Speaker 1Intriguing stellar patterns . In recent image , JWST captured unique concentric rings around the Wolf Rayet star WR140 .
Speaker 2Oh yeah .
Speaker 1Likely formed in interceptions oh yeah , likely formed in interceptions , but this is companion that structures after a rare glimpse into the complex . I don't have a glass , so I do apologize . Complex lifestyles of massive stars .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , tell you , man , it's really awesome . It's cool to see space , it's cool to see where we have gone . In's cool to see , yeah , where we are , have gone , and exploration to get through , you know it's all right guys get your glasses later , that you know , just to see all that stuff . You know , yeah , you know pros and cons getting up into space . It might be a little claustrophobic , you know .
Speaker 1I don't know like , you know what you have to have with you when you go .
Speaker 2My fidget spinner .
Speaker 1Laces out , laces out , you have to have it in there with you . That would be cool . Laces out , bitch . That's who I am . You see that you know who I'm about .
Speaker 2That's freaking great man . Pretty much yeah .
Speaker 1But yeah man , it's good stuff , yeah so thank you , I'm glad this was a great conversation .
Speaker 2Thanks for having that kind of conversation . That was a
Space Suit Precision and Cleanliness
Speaker 2good movie .
Speaker 1I always love talking about this stuff . This is . You could talk about this stuff forever . It's just amazing how they so precise and clean and nothing can get in . They have to wear these crazy suits when they're moving stuff and it's so slow . You're watching the , you know you could , you could tune into it and watch it . It's crazy .
Speaker 2It's like I think that'd be the one thing , one reason I want to go to space to see if I'm really going to move that freaking slow , Like I don't know if it's really no , but I mean the people who are building it and making it . Oh , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , you know they're taking their time .
Speaker 1You know they're not rushing it , you know they .
Speaker 2I just want to see , and then everything that goes near it or goes in it will have to be wearing right you know it would have to be clean .
Speaker 1Yup , definitely , no fucking around . Yeah , none , none .
Speaker 2But that's why they have that clean room . So when you walk in like , you walk in like , say , like the foyer , and you walk in like , if they really do that , yeah , well , you know , hey , it's one of them things , man , yeah , man , it's one of them things , but anyway . So that's our time for today , gentlemen .
Speaker 1Talk more , but this is our time so we need to go .
Speaker 2That is funny , yeah . So thanks everybody for listening . Hit us up like always Love peace and hair grease . Hit us up like always love peace and hair grease . Live long and prosper and go vegan hollow .
